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LORD OF THE RINGS casting: Elijah Wood confirmed as Frodo
Well, yesterday ol Zorianna Kit over at THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER broke the Frank Darabont/Chuck Russell/Ahnuldt/DOC SAVAGE scoop, and today she confirms up the Elijah Wood as Frodo casting news that AICN broke back around the first week of May. This is the official first confirmed (through the trades) bit of casting on LORD OF THE RINGS. Look for more announcements of cast members in short order as filming will begin in about a month and a half. Man... Can you believe that, then we'll only have to wait till... Summer 2001... sheesh.
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that's really excellent news, if you'd have asked me a year ago about having him in the LOTR movie, i would've told ya to get the hell outta here but having since seen him in the faculty, i think that's a pretty sound casting move...bravo!
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There goes the movie...
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Morning everybody,
what a fine way to begin the day.. Wood is a capable actor, who -
I had no idea who this Wood character is, so I looked up his official site. It gave me a quick breakdown of his career and some fan-style pics. So now I know who he is, sort of. I haven't seen The Faculty, but I remembered him from Deep Impact. Hmm. Well, he made the best of a lousy subplot. the fact that he's 18 is slightly disturbing, but 18 can go both ways - older and younger. He seems to have the right type of face. In short, I have not lost faith in Jackson. As I have stated before, just because his interpertation of the story is different than mine, it doesn't mean that mine is right and his is wrong. Bare that thought in mind while flaming.
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It's nice to see an INTELLIGENT decision from Hollywood every once in a while... Actually, it probably has NOTHING to do with Hollywood and everything to do with Peter Jackson. Thank you, sir! Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you...
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Elijah Wood is a top actor and his work in The Faculty is his best yet. This is a really good choice, Tolkien fans should put a little faith in the man and he'll do us all proud.
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One more thought:
Just remembered that Sutherland has been announced as being a part of Clint Eastwoods SpaceCowboys.
Damn sorry about that - just imagining this tall, charismatic actor towering as the wise mentor Gandalf over the young and curious Elijah Wood as Frodo.
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I believe the english actor Jim Whittle has been approached to play Legolas. Can anyone confirm this?
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If the casting is official (and admittedly I don't see why EJW shouldn't be Frodo) then why haven't we heard it from New Line, seen it on the official Lord of the Rings movie site, or read it on Elijah Wood's official fan page yet?
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I haven't commented on this rumour until now, in case I might somehow jinx the casting process. But now...
I'm sure there will be a few people proclaiming that this is end of the world as we know it (see example above).
But I'm not one of them. I think Elijah Wood is the right actor for the role, and it's an opportunity he deserves.
It does have interesting implications for the casting of the other hobbits however. I always got the feeling that Frodo was the oldest, wisest and most responsible of the Hobbits. Does this mean similar aged teenagers will fill out the rest of the hobbit role, or will there be some hefty make-up work going on?
I'm not opposed to the idea of teenagers, since spiritually the hobbits seem in that 18-20 bracket, even if they were literally older in Hobbit years ("not yet the age of majority" were the words used by either Merry or Pippin at one point).
Now, time to wait for the next casting announcement...
Chris
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I hope that this is true, and not just more gossip. The three Hobbits filled so far (possibly) seem good choices. The more I look at Billy Boyd the more I see Pippin. Oh, Merry? Where are you?
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It now seems likely that Connery will play Saruman and not Gandalf[which may go to Anthony Hopkins.]
I actually quite like that idea as I saw Entrapment last night and you go out of that film REALLY liking him.I think this would work well when he tries to persuade Theoden that hes a nice bloke in the Two Towers and when Treebeard lets him go the audience will be conned into thinking that hes just a lovable rogue when he really is nasty.PS Danny DeVito seems to be mentioned a lot,why not as Wormtongue, hes at his best playing malignant sidekicks and he and Connery could play off each other quite nicely.PPS Elijah as Frodo GOOD! -
Gingeracrockford (where DID you get that name) why are you so adamant that both Connery and Hopkins are in this movie? I thought Connery had dropped out of the running completely (even though he was only a "strong" rumour in the first place) and Hopkins will surely be filming "Hannibal" very soon! Have I missed some vital news, or are you just giving your hoped-for cast listing? Sorry: I just need to know.
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Hold on a second, Summer 2001?!?! I thought it wa ssupposed to be coming out Christmas 2000. I know the start of shooting was delayed but I don't recall seeing any news anywhere putting pack the release date. Where did Harry pick up this little nugget?
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Ummm... Harry? Summer 2001? Are you kidding? Please tell me you're kidding!! I thought this was supposed to be released in Xmas 2000. I'll tear our every gaddamn hair on my head waiting for it if it's another half year!!!... Wait, ok. Maybe you meant that all three would be done by Summer 2001? (Which would mean they would be sped up a bit?) Yes? Please? Please confirm one way or another. (Please just let it be a brainfart, and you actually meant Xmas 2000.) I await your response. -CG
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I had a hamster once. His name was Frodo. Alas, he is dead now.
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Wood seems to be a good choice. He's not far away from my image of Frodo, but can he do the English country-side accent. It would ruin the film if the hobbits spoke with american accents.
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I just saw him driving a brand new Land Rover. Pity it will be sitting in the garage for the next few years while he's eating Kiwi.
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Well, they've got the lead role right
so let's hope the rest will be as good as this one.
Wood can be a terrific Frodo: he has everything: right face, right voice, presence, talent. I just watched Deep Impact with him and was convinced once again that he'd be great. He has a kind of fairy-tale-hero air that I would expect from Frodo. His age maybe more of an advantage than otherwise, because he'd need to convey the innosence and purity of spirit which would be harder to see in an older, used-and-tossed around actor. Well, he'd need to look older and tired in the end but after 3 years of filming he will be older (20? 21?) and I bet he'll be tired and fed up so it should work out Ok :)
Oh yeah, they got Pippin right too. He's so good that one guy up there (Celt?) has spent a lot of time looking at his picture :) Just kidding: I made a list of roles with pictures of probable actors on my web page and I look at them every day... -
No complaints about this casting. Wood is a great actor. However, I had always imagined Frodo as about 25 years old. That's all right though he'll do fine. Hey, has anyone thought about Pierce Brosnan for Aragorn?
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i had a Hamster named Frodo too, and he (I think) is also dead! What's that about?
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I had a horse called smeagol, he spoke with a limp, walked with a run and had curly teeth. I think he is dead now. Tom Baker for gandalf or i'm giving up cottage cheese for life.
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Frodo is a good hamster name. It is both comforting and unsettling to think that someone else in the world thinks just as I did.
My Frodo was white and had beady eyes. He liked to run around the house in his hamster ball. He loved those hamster food nuggets.
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What is Tom Baker up to these days? I only know him as the fourth Doctor and the evil wizard in Golden Voyage of Sinbad. Did he and the actress who played the second Romana ever get back together? She was hot.
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I don't really know what Tom Baker does these days, except that he teaches underwater basket weaving in Milton Keynes, and he definitely auditioned for the role of Gandalf.
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My hamsters were called Cagney and Lacey (oh shit, perhaps I shouldn't have said that). Erm, any way! If you like hamsters, check out http://www.hamsterdance.com/ and make sure your volume is turned WAAAAAY up. Now, back to LotR.
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I wonder if Tom Baker keeps pet hampsters? my hampsters were called baby corn and fish leg.
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I dont believe that EW is a wise choice at all, and i'm surprised at the number of people who either agree or are neutral on the decision...while i dont think this "spells doom" in any way for the overall film (which could still be outstanding), i believe it indicates an understanding of the character with which i believe is wrongheaded...EW for Pippen or Merry is one thing, Frodo another...as one post stated, Frodo is by far, the most mature, wise and yes, somewhat solemn of the hobbits... and no, 33-35 was NOT the hobbit equivalent of 18-20, it was merely the age of majority for them, who after all from the books did not live much longer than the "big people"... Frodo in fact was often described as wise beyond his years, more serious than most hobbits, and more mature in appearance...to me, this means an ADULT is required for this role, in order to bring about the necessary gravity of character, someone potentially in their late 20's in fact... i suspect that this interpretation of the characters age may be driven in part by the supposed need to appeal to a youth audience, rather than a true reading of the character--- though i understand that concern, and in some ways its a legitimate one, i believe it is the wrong way to go, and too bad for the movie, in my opinion
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What does the choice of Elijah Wood speak about the other choices (both casting and scripting) have been/are being made?
Is this dumbing down going to across the board, or is Jackson downplaying the role of Frodo to concentrate on Aragorn or on the Special effects?
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Didn't Peter Jackson say that he intended to cast unknowns as the Hobbits? Whatever happened to that?
Don't get me wrong, Elijah Wood is great (forget about The Faculty; see The Ice Storm), but I still would rather see unknown actors in these roles. -
it's that simple
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Aw wonse had a harry coo named David Hasslehoff! Big, hairy, sexy, and thicker than last week's milk.... Oh, and I know this is the wrong Talkback for this comment, but Fuck the MPAA! Who the hell voted them as supreme chancelors of America's morals... rassum frassum unaccountable puritans. Somethings wrong in this country when politicians and lawyers interpret the Bill of Rights to say it's against the constitution for the government to have an official censorship body, but nobody bats an eyelash when an unofficial, private, and completely unaccountable one picks up the censorship stick and wields it with impunity. (I'm talking about the Sleepy Hollow poster thing.) What, are we gonna have to have nice playful orcs who, rather than kidnapping Pippin and Merry, ask them to go have tea with them to please the MPAA? Or instead of the battle of Helm's deep, they'll all just play a big game of tag? Are Witch-kings too demonic to have on a poster? Will that encourage children to accept a ring of power from the dark lord and become a servant of evil for millenia? Arrrgh! -CG
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They couldn't possibly have chosen a better actor for Frodo... my faith is restored! haha.
Although, I must admit, I woulda like to have seen small people in the role... I don't have much faith in this "shrink regular actors to hobbit/dwarf size" thing... guess I'll have to see it to believe it. Otherwise, I'd have picked Warwick Davis as Frodo. haha -
Jackson INTENDED to cast unknowns. After several months of auditioning actors, he changed his mind about at least one role. It's that simple.
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I've read several discussions about the possible composer for the films but one thing that has been overlooked is the nature of the music itself. While I have complete faith in PJ, I think he's truly the best possible director for the project, the music has a chance of standing on its own as a work of art. I you all recall from the Silmarillion music was the first creation of the Valar. In, fact, it was the disharmony of Melkor's music that provided the underlying theodicy for Middle Earth. The idea was that evil can exist even in the creation of a good creator because disharmony is itself beautiful. It is the conflict between these primordial forces that brings out the beauty in life. The constant emphasis on elven voices and music, compared to the harshness of the orcs, is derived from this principle. What I want from the film is a score that reflects this. It would truly allow the movies to deliver more than the books while being faithful to the text itself. Does anybody have any rumours or information, any comments from PJ, on this topic?
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He's 18, he's a normal guy...unless they're going to shrink him with effects (which might look a bit odd) I don't really see how this is going to work. Frodo's supposed to be about 3'4", right? Am I missing something?
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Ive just heard that Puff Daddy is up for the role of Gandalf, he's writing all his own dialogue purely from crap coversational fillers example: yo, yo, yo, Frodo sup? wanna be in my clique dog? yo, I got mad wizard skills. This excerpt alone took him nine weeks to write. He also wants Mordor to be New York city, Rohan is Belgium.
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Yes, you are missing something.
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Yep. Elijah sure as hell has the look! Now, let's hope he does the character right. My expectations for these movies are building up BIG TIME!!! I hope PJ n' company don't let me down!!! TPM lived up to my expectations, so I hope The Fellowhsip of the Ring does too!
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Yeah, obviously, Jackson changed his mind. That goes without saying. What I'm curious about is why. Did New Line pressure him for bigger names? Can they afford it? The money has to come from somewhere...
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I was looking forward to this movie . . . it has just been ruined. I guess I'll wait until someone rents it and borrow their copy. HEY GUYS! Why don't you put Canoe Reeves and Brad Pitt in it too just to make sure that it will really suck.
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I thought hobbits are supposed to look like shorter men, not like teenagers. I think this movie would be a lot better with a cast of unknowns.
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Having been a long-time fan of Elijah Wood, my biggest doubt of late has been that the level of performance in his recent roles has not (IMO) reached the level of some of his earlier ones (when he was 11-13 years old), e.g. I consider "The Faculty" and "Deep Impact" among his more mediocre performances - but I don't think it was (directly) his fault. LotR is the kind of epic many EW fans have been waiting for for way too long - finally, a chance for him to prove himself to the world.
On being "mature beyond his years": check out The War, or even Radio Flyer (filmed when he was ~10 years old!).
On an English accent: check out his Cockney in Disney's recent "Oliver Twist". I personally didn't think his accent was that good, but The Queen's English is IMO easier to pick up than Cockney, so hopefully he'll do better. -
David Bowie must play Elrond or I'll die... I'll help raise a fund to get him (im not kidding)
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Mr T must play legolas or i'll die. "Gimli you crazy foo, i'm one helluva tough tomato and stay away from my van with your crazy jibber jabber!!!!"
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I mean, just because you've heard of him doesn't mean he's not obscure. He's not an A-list name; he's not on the B-list either. in Hollywoodese, that makes him unknown. This is not a reflection of his ability, rather of his bankability. So PJ has kept his word, at least in his own mind.
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Can't say as I remember him from ANY movie, and I've seen Deep impact.(i know, I know...) So, in a way, he is not a stand out actor, and is an unknown. (at least to me!)
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here in germany we never spent a thougt in english-country-accent actors 'cause all movies are synchronized with german actors voices. and thats the point that makes connery inacceptable for the gandalf role. his synchro-voice is the same as of william "james t. kirk" shatner. can you imagine sittin in cinema watching gandalf fighting the balrog closing your eyes for just a second and hearing jim kirk saying "you can't pass"?
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This is the end. This movie will now suck. My only hope is that this is a lie and I wont believe it until it is on the official web site. But if it is I blame all the fanboys out there who have spent their time suggesting the worst actors for parts in what I consider my favorite book ever. You have ruined it for me and for every other true die hard fan out there. This movie was supposed to be for us, not you.
Let me enlighten all of you. Frodo was 52 and he looked, because of the ring, to be only 32. NOT 18!!!! $&*%@!!! Pippen was 29 as said in the return of the king! Merry was only slightly older and Sam was older than that!!! Read the appendixes were it talks about timelines and family trees. If you do the math you can figure it out. Hobbits only lived at most 10 years older than men. And that was rare!!! Only Bilbo lived longer than that!!! There was not much difference in age appearance than men!!!! Listen to me and learn!!! I blame you out there on this talk back!!!! Get mad at me if you will. I dont care!!! YOu have ruined something very special for me and for many others!!!!! I hate you all!!!! -
Does anyone else out there think that Elijah Morning Wood should be kicked until his leg falls off.
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Thanks!
Sorry about the above post, all...didn't read about the digital shrinkage till just now.
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I have the utmost faith in PJ to deliver what George Lucas so resoundingly FAILED to deliver. TPM is a film that deserved NONE of it's success. I was so fucking disgusted by this childish crap that I almost puked my guts up. And I wish I had. That would have spared me from seeing a movie which was hyped to the extreme, and warranted much of its box-office performance to the "zombie" factor! This is my term for those people who will watch any movie that has Star Wars in its title, and ignore any obvious mediocrities which interferes with their "religion". I only hope that Peter Jackson has TOTAL control over "his" trilogy, and doesn't allow those studio fuckers to exert ANY influence.... And PJ: make this saga as violent as you want. Fuck those assholes at the MPAA. I want to see heads tossed into Minas Tirith aplenty, and blood spilled with impunity. This is a trilogy that NEEDS realism, UNLIKE "TPM", which needs..... well, shit, ya got me - I don't know what the fuck TPM needs? Maybe a new script, director and being reshot again from the beginning with an "adult" perspective. But that's another story... Once again, I WANT violence in this trilogy. I WANT to see the full power of Sauron displayed in a totally PRIMAL fashion. I want to appreciate his MIGHT! To achieve this you need violence. Bring it on, PJ! You have my support!
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Jul 08, 1999 12:14:33 PM CDT
Tolkien Scholar: In the immortal words of the wise Elrond Halfel
by creamy goodness
"Shut the fuck up!" I'm sick of your crap. Why blame us fangeeks (I prefer that over the gender-specific "fanboy")for something you can't even judge yet. Why not blame your mama? After all, she's the one that carried you to term, giving you life, only to have it ruined by the casting of Elijah Wood as Frodo. Or wait, here's a thought: why don't you wait to see the frikin movie before crying and pissing all over yourself? Oh, and would you care to explain the difference between the satanic fangeeks and the celestial, enlightened "true die hard fans"? I'd like details, supporting refernces, and examples please, and in 500 words or less. And to everybody else (those with fully formed craniums), what do you all think Harry meant by Summer 2001? I'm scared. -CG
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You're a WOMAN, aren't you creamy goodness? Only a gal would speak that way! A woman DOES NOT GIVGE LIFE TO A FUCKING HUMAN BEING! She is only a carrier. The male of the species impregnates the female, and THUS gives life to the egg!! AHEM!! Don't bash me if you learned something different in biology, but I suspect that the statement you spouted could ONLY come from a female! If you ARE a man, then you're a fucking throwback! By the way, I do think Elijah Wood is a good casting selection, but I also become routinely pissed off by arrogant females (creamy goodness?!). Yup, I'm a bonafide sexist asshole!! This is a MAN'S world, and don't you forget it!
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I would like the trilogy to be so graphicly violent that I throw up my own spleen during the seige of Minas Tirith. I would also like to see Mount Doom constructed entirely from Lego, leaves and spit . Tom Baker for Gandalf or I may get so incredibly angry that my feet will begin to fizz like an orphans face. woof
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Let me guess, the biology book you learned all that from also had a disclaimer about Darwin, didn't it? (Oh, and by the way, was that "You're a WOMAN" thing supposed to be some sort of insult? Or just an accusation?) And nice name asshole. Were you the 99th person to think it up? (If that joke went over your head, let me know and I'll use smaller words.) -CG
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Well, first I think Elijah Wood will work, but would not have been my first choice. I think PJ has been kind of forced into having Americans play the major roles. I think Scottish or English actors with theatre experience would have been beter. But, Elijah is not a horrible choice
I think Adrian Paul would be the best choice for Aragorn, particularly if they are going to enhance Aragorn and Arwen love story. He is a great actor w/years of sword/martial arts expertise and is a lady killer. Also, he is not that widely known.
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Considering that everything I said was supposed to be a joke, you sure took the bait. Whether I meant sex education, Biology or whatever makes no difference - you answered my question - YOU ARE A FEMALE! The fact that you DIDN'T respond directly to my inquiry gave me the answer I sought. It's always amusing at AICN when you can goad someone into replying to any dumb shit, when the person in question ALSO typed something DUMB! Incidentally, I DO agree with your opinions regarding LOTR. Just don't insult others if you can't take it yourself.
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I've noticed that some of you (not all) have been worried that Elijah Wood is too young to play Frodo. I say not so, though Frodo was a rather serioud character. You see at the time of the "War of the Ring" Frodo was 50, Sam 38, Merry, 36, and Pippin, 29.
Frodo-At age 50, he looked like he did at 33(same as 18 for humans) because the ring caused him not to age. He would even appear the same after the destruction save that he was weary and wounded.
Sam-At age 38, would be somewhere in his 20's.
Merry-At age 36, would also look somewhere in his 20's.
Pippin-At age 29, would not hace yet come of age so he would look as if he were in his late teens.
For further information read "A Long Expected Party" and the appedicces, under the hobbit family trees for year of birth, etc. in "Lord of the Rings."
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It may be a bit late in the casting stage to suggest this, but I think it could be interesting to see the actor who lands Gandalf to also play Sauruman. They're supposed to be very similar physically, and I wouldn't imagine it would be all that difficult to pull off given the relatively small amount of screentime Sauruman gets. It would also be a nice showcase for someone's acting talents. Just my $.02!
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Actually, considering I was laughing so hard while I was writing my post, that I kept having to retype it, maybe you should ask yourself who was kidding. Let's just say I took the bait in the same spirit it was offered. And please tell me your name is a joke dude? I couldn't stop laughing thinking of a room full of internet geeks saying "I'm NonConformist27" and "I'm NonConformist62" and then four getting into a fight over who who be NonConformist69. (OK, so I'm easily amused... I'm at work, what do you want?) And yes, EW could be a fantastic Frodo, and Billy Boyd looks a perfect little hobbit. -CG
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Post messages on their message board about how Elijah Wood shouldn't play the part! The sight supports the idea that Elijah wood will be in the film! Im the only one that posts there that hates Elijah Wood! Everyone who hates elijah wood GO TO theonering.net AND FLAME!!! Its the only way to get the idea that Elijah Wood sucks through all these dumb bitches that love Elijah Wood! Go now! also I think P.S. Creamy Goodness is a whore!
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Actually, especially after seeing him in Crusdae a few weeks ago, I was thinking of Edward Woodward for Denethor...
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I'm not really familiar with Elijah Wood, but he DOES have the right LOOK for the part. Acting ability? *Shrug* I'll find out when I see the movie. As for his age, well, a little make-up can do a lot, and I always personally pictured Frodo as having a young look, even if he is middle-aged. After all, he's had the ring since his 30s, and as Gollum (my namesake) and Biblo prove, the ring is better than a face-lift.
Other casting thoughts: I don't see Donald Sutherland as Gandalf. Patrick McGooghan would make an excellent Saruman. Warwick Davis would be a great Samwise (I know, it won't happen since they're not using "little people" for Hobbits). Liam Neeson would make a great Aragorn. These are of course, just my opinion. -
Frodo was 51 at the end of the book. How old was he at the beginning? He was born in 2968 and received the Ring when he was 33, just out of his "tweens". Samwise was 15 years younger than Frodo. And Pippin and Merry were younger than Sam, still "boys" as it were. Frodo left the Shire in 3018 - age 50. But we cannot equate Hobbit age with human age. Else why would a Hobbit come of age at 33. I agree that Hobbits die of old age fairly close to humans - NOW. But when Tolkien wrote the Hobbit the average life expectancy of men was about 50 or 60. If the average Hobbit lived to about 90 or so, then that might explain why so many people are confused about what Frodo should look like age-wise. By the way, I'm 51, fat and bald. Other than age, the only difference between me and Harry Knowles is that he's got hair! But if you want Frodo to look like a 51 year old man, have at it. But I see Hobbits as appearing much younger than we do at the same age. At any rate, he starts out much younger, and it's easier to make a young person look older than it is to make an old person look younger, in the same way that you can put makeup on a thin person to make them look fat, but no amount of makeup will make a fat person look thin. I'd wear it if it did! So before you complain, remember that you don't know how Jackson is going to handle the makeup for Frodo and you might be pleasantly surprised. Don't give up hope yet. And why blame US for the casting? Elijah Wood wasn't even mentioned for the part by us. His name only came up when the rumors started that he had been considered for the role. Just like now, some liked the idea nad others did not. And as for being a "true fan", you insult me and others who have been reading the LOTR for over thirty years and love it just as much as you do and want this movie to be as perfect as possible. And even "true fans" can disagree on various points without being called names or being considered not true fans. You and I disagree about what Frodo should look like age-wise, but that's no reason to belittle my opinion or call me stupid. A debate is one thing, but having a temper tantrum is quite another.
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You aRE A WHORE!! The only reason you want to see Elijah wood in this film is so that you can mentally undress him! I hope they tell you turn your vibrator off in the MIddle of the film cause its going to drive people nuts!!!!you suck WOMAN! Elijah WOOD SUCKS FOR THIS FILM!
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Ok, I usually ignore unrelated flames on message boards, but I have to respond to this crud. It's people like Redwing and Conformist who give men a bad name. Did you just wake up from the dark ages? "Women belong at the stove." What kind of outdated crap is that? Women don't BELONG at the stove any more than men do. And calling someone a whore because of their views... that's just childish. Lusting after an actor doesn't make someone a whore, and I doubt that Creamy Goodness supports Elijah Wood as Frodo for that reason, anyway.
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What is it about the internet that makes me forget how to make a rational argument? I use to make them... Anyway, good post. Those like TS who claim Elijah wood is too young forget the power of the ring. At 111, well after most hobbits croak, Bilbo was **unchanged** from when he was 51. I'd say from that that ringbearers don't just age slowly, I'd say that they virtually don't age at all while having the ring, and only even very very very slowly when they don't. Of course they would age incredibly once the ring was destroyed. I wonder what would have become of Gollum if the ring had been destroyed and he lived? Immediate death (forgetting the insanity it would cause him)? A slow death of a few days? Or would he last a few years yet, like Bilbo, just aging rapidly? Any thoughts? -CG
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Excellent questions, Creamy Goodness. Very intriguing. I think Gollum, had he lived, would have physically gone downhill in a big hurry. Being really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really old would undoubtedly catch up with him once the power of the ring was unmade. But I think he would first succumb to death by his own doing. His entire existance was so focused on the ring (with a bit of hunger for fish thrown in for good measure), that with the ring gone, he would have no reason to go on living. So if he hadn't fallen accidentally and Frodo or Sam had managed to wrest the ring back and throw it in the cracks of Doom, Gollum would've hurled himself after it. All of this is IMHO, of course.
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please boy, tell me you didnt take your name from the hockey team.
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We all have our opinions on Elijah Wood and the movie, but please lets discuss these things like cvilized human beings.
Firstoff I think Goodgulf gave us a very good explaination, perhaps better than mine.
And now to those who dissed Creamy Goodness. She has her own opinions and you are wrong to make such a sexist remark to her. Both MEN and WOMEN produce life. The male carries the semen and the woman carried the eggs and the young. Without both there can not be a new life born so it is a 50/50 deal. And so what if someone has a crush on Elijah Wood? I in fact have a thing for the character Frodo, but that doesn't make me a slut, a whore, or some crazy person. I RL I am a sweet, 20 year-old college girl who enjoys Tolkien's work. So please try to respect one another's opinions, though it is alright to disagree. It is not alright however to call someone something when you don't know who they are. =) -
Just Confirmed Gandalf - Puff Daddy, Merry - Steven Segall, Sauron - Tinky Winky. Filming begins tommorrow in a fish and chip shop in Sheffield England, honestly. Tom Baker for Gandalf or I swear to bejesus I will take a cheesegrater to my quivering bollocks. end.
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Seesh. I leave the talkback for a couple of hours (to see TPM for the first time - it just reached my country. By the way: to hell with you all. I loved it) and look what happens. Just because we're anonymous doesn't mean we're not civilized human beings (although I have my doubts about Tolkien Scholer). Anyways, you guys - and gals, apparantly - have to remember that we're dealing with a movie here. Direct translation is impossible, due to the vast difference in the mediums. So nitpicking about ages is fun, but useless. Anyway, young Hobbits make sense. That would explain the rather condescending manner shown to them by the Big People. I've always thought of them as kids, out for a Boys Adventure. So I'm still happy. Let me end with my regular plug - Morgan Freeman for Gandalf! He da mage!
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None of my animals are named after LOTR characters, but I swear I'm naming my next horse Bill or Shadowfax depending on how good-looking he is. Oh, yeah, Frodo...Elijah Wood is cool. He can do it. That guy who is supposed to play Pippin sure looks like I always pictured Pippin, too...I cannot for the life of me remember anything about Sean Astin!
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I've been waiting for someone to make this movie forever... i applaud those who are taking it on...
i hope this will be a quality film, 'cause there are going to be a lot of people with high expectations for it.
one suggestion... a good sound track... i would suggest John Williams... work into it the Song of the Ainur... a soundtrack that would properly include that theme would be extremely impressive.
for Aragorn i would suggest Kevin Costner; for Denethor... (i forgot his name, but he's the main character's father in the CBS show 'Early Edition'.); for Arwen, the actress that did Nimue on the NBC movie 'Merlin'; and i've got other ideas, but i wouldn't want to bore you all with them, besides, it's not like anyone will use them...
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Jul 08, 1999 5:48:05 PM CDT
It's not Elijah W. that worries me but SEAN ASTIN AS SAM GAMGEE!
by palintiri
Cinescape is not reporting that they have confirmed Sean Astin as Sam. I guess we can kiss English accents goodbye in this movie. Who's next... Luke Perry? Why don't they just call it Middle Earth: 90210! Why not just cast Neve Campbell as Arwen and then they could rename the first movie: Party of Nine. And why not cast *$%^ing Keanu as Strider while they're at it. They could get Ryan Phillipe to play Legolas. They could turn Legolas' deep friendship with Gimli into a gay love sub-plot. (Is that an arrow in your quiver or are you just happy to see me?)
They has better start casting some actors who are British... I include Gwynneth Paltrow in this category considering the quality of her accent!
By the by, Frodo's coming of age was at 33. (Hobbit equiv. of 18-21). He had just celebrated his 50th birthday when he left the Shire. (For all those idiots who will claim I'm wrong... I looked it up! Frodo was born on September 22nd Third Age year 2968 and left Hobbiton on September 23rd 3018!) The typical life span of a hobbit is 99 years. This book was written in the early to mid part of this century when life expetancys were shorter say around mid 50's to early 70's. So all in all Hobbits mature later then humans (not counting Numenoreans)! Frodo was 53 at the end of the book. The Ring-bearers depart the havens on September 29, 3021. Oh, and nonconformist99, you need some help. And Creamy Goodness... just letting you know that we all think the world of you! -
:-) I like that oh far-sighted one! My chief concern, however is that they end the book with the crowning & wedding of King Ellesser (Strider). Not a wonderful idea considering that Tolkien wanted to point out that as great and important as that was it was less then the overall importance of the great cycle of events that had been unfolding, culminating with the destruction of the one ring and the defeat of Sauron, as well as the sorrow of the elves (as well as other races) as their time is now over and the dominion of men was to begin. I for one think it should end with the sailing of the ring-bearers and Sams return to Bag End... with one exception! In appendix B of the Return of the King they give a shortened account of the next 119 years following the sailing of the ringbearers. I think they could do this as a kind of epilogue shown in a series of images with a narrative. The most important events being the passing of Sam's wife and his going on to the havens... last of the ring-bearers, the passing of Merry & Pippin and finally the pasing of King Ellesser and Arwen. "Then Legolas built a grey ship in Ithilien, and sailed down the Adnuin and so over Sea; and with him, it is said went Gimli the Dwarf. And when that ship passed an end was come in Middle-earth of the Fellowship of the Ring." The last two paragraphs of Appendix A contain one of the most eloquent passages in the whole of the Lord of the Rings: "But when King Elessar gave up his life Legolas followed at last the desire of his heart and sailed over Sea." Here follows one of the last notes in the Red Book "We ahve heard tell that Legolas took Gimli Gloin's son with him because of their great friendship, greater than any that has been between Elf and Dwarf. If this is true, then it is strange indeed: that a Dwarf should be willing to leave Middle-earth for any love, or that the Eldar should receive him, or that the Lords of the West should permit it. But it is said that Gimli went also out of desire to see again the beauty of Galadriel; and it may be that she, being mighty among the Eldar, obtained this grace for him. More cannot be said of this matter." nuff said.
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It's been widely reported that Peter Jackson has been recruiting "experts" in Tolkien's languages with partiulcar attention to Quenya and Sindarin. He intends (or at least intended) to have actors speak in Elvish and have subtitles from time to time. I think that would be wonderful. Even if PJ plans to cut out a lot of the singng and poetry... perhaps he could work it in as background music. It would be a shame not to have at least some of it. And if anyone thinks it couldn't work... everyone was against Kevin Costner having a great deal of Dances With Wolves' dialogue in Lakota with English sub-titles... all the studio people told him it "would never sell". On another matter Kevin Costner's Robin Hood was actually filmed in Sherwood forest (or whats left of it). I do hope PJ will take some stock footage of this English forest as well as some European locations and integrate them into his movies. It would add to the overall beauty of the films and Tolkien being such a tree-lover would, I think, approve!
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One I called Gizmo and one Stripes.Unfortunately Stripes ate gizmo(which is very apt in a way).Had to throw the poor fellow away.Probably residing in some Anaconda wanna be's belly.....I think Tolkien treated the scenes of violence in LOTR(especially the Minas Tirith secne) sensibly and sensitively.There is no gung ho slaughter(Eomer singing at the battle was more of a noble act of laughter in despair)tOnly the deeds and nobility of the protagonists are glamourized..Though sometimes I feeel uneasy about Legolas-Gimli's bet on the orc's body count....Elliot Goldenthal is the composer for LOTR!Listen to the Victorian pieces in 'Interview with the Vampire) and his version of the operatic 'Gotterdammerung' in Batman Forever(his music is about the only good thing in that movie).
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Eh???? that's like......almost peodophilic!!! (or however it's spelt!) Yeah I know he's 18 and officially an adult, but being a FEMALE who admires Elijah Wood, I can certainly tell you, it's not because i want to screw the guy senseless!!! I've considered Elijah to be the best actor of his generation since I saw him in THE ADVENTURES OF HUCK FINN! when he would have been, like, 10!!! and watched a lot of his earlier stuff which he is also excellent in. He is a great actor, and I don't have an opinion on the casting of the film because to be honest I have no idea what the hell Lord of the rings is about never mind, who he's playing! All I know is, that as old as he now is (only a year younger than me, in fact). I still think of him as that cute little kid!!!
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Obi-Wan: Please don't presume that American actors are incapable of performing authentic-sounding British accents. We have no idea whether these two guys are capable of it, or whether they will be asked to do it. Please don't use the untalented and vacuous Keanu Reeves as a barometer of whether Americans can perform as British characters. Reeves can't even perform well in his own native accent! Some American actors are talented enough to pull it off, and some aren't. We simply don't know yet.
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Obi-Wan: Please don't presume that American actors are incapable of performing authentic-sounding British accents. We have no idea whether these two guys are capable of it, or whether they will be asked to do it. Please don't use the untalented and vacuous Keanu Reeves as a barometer of whether Americans can perform as British characters. Reeves can't even perform well in his own native accent! Some American actors are talented enough to pull it off, and some aren't. We simply don't know yet.
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For all you people who think casting Elijah Wood as Frodo will ruin the movie, you aren't thinking much are you? Elijah Wood and whoever else is in these movies wouldn't make or break them, sticking to the story and displaying it accurately will make the difference. Wood is a good actor and will play the part well, anyways.
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Wow! I recently saw Whittle in "Cheese and Onion Coloured Fairy Tales" and was so impressed I got a huge poster of him. It now hangs on my wall. If Jackson is after talent like Whittle we're in for a real treat.
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Elijah wood as FRODO!? Jesus Christ, what's next, Mikey from the Goonies playing Samwise?! These films are making about as much sense now as Mel Gibson making a movie about his Lord and Savior. Oh, if you guys read this in time, don't be in New York on 9/11/01, just a heads up, FROM THE FUTURE...
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