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Showrunner Kring: No More
References To HEROES’ Caitlin!!
UPDATED: Kring Apologizes
For Calling Fans Dipshits!!

UPDATED: Time Magazine's James Poniewozik offered on Thursday a pointed rebuttle to Tim Kring's recent assertion that DVRs somehow make it harder to watch serialized shows, and that people who watch "Heroes" live on NBC are "saps" and "dipshits."

Now comes word that Kring has apologized for maligning a mammoth segment of his show's audience. (Though he still doesn't explain how he came to the conclusion that serialized dramas don't work as well when people watch them on DVRs -- when the experience of many suggest the opposite is true.)

His apology:

I need to strongly apologize for the slightly mangled quote of mine that is making it’s way around the internet. It was made while trying to explain the rise in DVR and online audience for the show. I was making the point that these platforms now offer a superior way to watch the show (without commercials, with extra content, commentary, at the audience’s convenience, etc.) And went on to say how it’s getting to the point where “watching the show on the air is relegated to the poor saps and dip****s who can’t figure out how to program their DVR’s”. (Or something close to that) It was a boneheaded attempt at being “cute” and making a point. Instead, it turned out to be just plain insulting and stupid. I know now how it sounded, but I truly never meant to suggest anything negative about our audience. No one cares more about the fans than we do at Heroes, and no one appreciates them more than me. We are grateful for whatever way people are finding our show. Now more than ever.

I want to take this opportunity to say that I’m very sorry for this careless, lame remark. The best way to make it up to you is to live up to my promise that the upcoming episodes of the show are fantastic. I think you’ll agree we’re really on a roll and we couldn’t be more excited about the last four episodes of “Villains” and the upcoming volume, “Fugitives”, which we feel will be a huge hit with the audience.

Thank you for hearing me out.

Humbly

Tim Kring

ORIGINAL POST:

I am – Hercules!!


It sounds like “Heroes” creator Tim Kring may have joined the millions of fans who have grown bored with his series. He told last weekend’s audience at the 2008 Screenwriting Expo:

"I was primarily fascinated by the origin story. Once the original story is over, and the character has no more questions about what's happening or existential drama, then the questions become just about plot, and then it becomes harder for me personally to connect to."

Don’t expect Peter to ever again reference his season-two love interest, whom the super-compassionate male nurse abandoned to a nightmarish alternate future. From IGN.com’s report on the presentation:

When the fan asked if Peter would ever acknowledge Caitlin or express any grief over what seems to be her dire fate, Kring replied, "No, we passed it. We leapfrogged it." He added that when the idea of returning to Caitlin was brought up, they asked, "Really? Are we going to risk that? We have enough stuff to [deal with]."

And though Kring employs time travel constantly in the series, he advises others to avoid it:

"It's a minefield that will make your mind explode. It will just drive you crazy. That's been something we've tried to use with a certain amount of rules - Not being able to change the future unless you go back. That device has been one of those that's just been so complicated for us."

You can read all of IGN’s story on Kring’s answers here.

Tonight’s episode stars Seth Green as a comic book nerd:

After reuniting Sylar (Zachary Quinto) and Elle (guest star Kristen Bell), Arthur (guest star Robert Forster) orders them to find Claire (Hayden Panettiere) and bring her to him. Matt (Greg Grunberg), Hiro (Masi Oka) and Ando (James Kyson Lee) team up together and follow Daphne (guest star Brea Grant) to her hometown of Lawrence, Kansas to discover what she’s been hiding. Meanwhile, Nathan and Peter Petrelli (Adrian Pasdar and Milo Ventimiglia) travel together to Haiti in search of the only man that can stop their father from destroying the world, the Haitian (Jimmy Jean-Louis). Jack Coleman and Ali Larter also star. Robert Forster also guest stars.


9 p.m. Monday. NBC.



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Getting kind of sick of Kring...
by Herewereyouwish
Nov 24th, 2008
02:54:56 AM
F I R S T!!
by GeordieSteev
Nov 24th, 2008
02:56:37 AM
They should be able to tie up some loose ends, I'd think...
by SickPuppy
Nov 24th, 2008
02:57:41 AM
Time Travel and Dead People
by Beltorak_69
Nov 24th, 2008
02:57:53 AM
2nd - Damn the Internet
by GeordieSteev
Nov 24th, 2008
02:58:12 AM
At the end of every volume, Kring admits mistakes...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Nov 24th, 2008
02:59:22 AM
Time-travel a minefield? No shit!
by raw_bean
Nov 24th, 2008
03:04:01 AM
There have always been easy fixes for the time travel...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Nov 24th, 2008
03:05:02 AM
Complicated if you don't know what you're doing
by V'Shael
Nov 24th, 2008
03:06:53 AM
The finale of Villains will be disappointing...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Nov 24th, 2008
03:09:22 AM
time travel is your friend.
by alice 13
Nov 24th, 2008
03:12:56 AM
Good, Kring... Then... GO!
by MrFloppy
Nov 24th, 2008
03:19:18 AM
Time travel
by billypilgrimisunstuck
Nov 24th, 2008
03:21:40 AM
Caitlin: another victim of the writer's strike!
by Zardoz
Nov 24th, 2008
03:32:23 AM
Haha
by The McPoyle Clan
Nov 24th, 2008
03:45:23 AM
Zardoz
by SUPERJIM
Nov 24th, 2008
03:48:37 AM
What about Nathan's wife and sons?
by jocutus
Nov 24th, 2008
03:49:21 AM
does anyone else recall another showrunner
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
03:51:18 AM
Fire this asshole!
by LordEnigma
Nov 24th, 2008
03:58:52 AM
Kring finds serialization "a very flawed way of telling stories
by Rinse
Nov 24th, 2008
04:04:03 AM
Ugh... Kring's full quote was
by Rinse
Nov 24th, 2008
04:04:38 AM
goddamit!!
by Rinse
Nov 24th, 2008
04:05:05 AM
jocutus
by BadMrWonka
Nov 24th, 2008
04:14:57 AM
Wonka
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
04:18:50 AM
Herc
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
04:19:23 AM
bacci40
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
04:20:33 AM
The Proper Fix For The Show, Is This Approach
by Media Messiah
Nov 24th, 2008
04:27:06 AM
This show is an embarassment
by medicinaluser
Nov 24th, 2008
04:28:02 AM
Amended: The Proper Fix For The Show, Is This Approach
by Media Messiah
Nov 24th, 2008
04:29:44 AM
Media Messiah
by medicinaluser
Nov 24th, 2008
04:33:29 AM
Media
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
04:35:02 AM
medicinaluser
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
04:35:47 AM
Mr. Zeddemore
by medicinaluser
Nov 24th, 2008
04:53:35 AM
medicinaluser
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
05:04:12 AM
Looking for an out?
by Aeronaut
Nov 24th, 2008
05:32:49 AM
Well....I say cancel it.
by Kubla_Khan
Nov 24th, 2008
05:38:40 AM
So serialized drama is a flawed way to tell stories?
by BrandonGK
Nov 24th, 2008
05:43:27 AM
Copycat anyone?
by wowsah156
Nov 24th, 2008
06:16:56 AM
Herc left out the most damaging comment Kring made
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
06:23:40 AM
wowsah156
by SUPERJIM
Nov 24th, 2008
06:28:22 AM
Even if Fuller is given the reins..
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
06:31:43 AM
HTF does eclipse take away Nathan and Nikki new names powers?
by EvilWizardGlick
Nov 24th, 2008
06:35:55 AM
Who wants a Dark Mohinder spin off?
by EvilWizardGlick
Nov 24th, 2008
06:37:24 AM
Dark Mohinders slime orifice?
by EvilWizardGlick
Nov 24th, 2008
06:38:07 AM
Does anyone know just what Arthur did powerwise?
by EvilWizardGlick
Nov 24th, 2008
06:40:20 AM
"Sucker!"
by Mal Carne
Nov 24th, 2008
06:47:08 AM
Most writers only have one good story in them.
by Kevin Holsinger
Nov 24th, 2008
06:48:28 AM
Remember the premiere show this year?
by V'Shael
Nov 24th, 2008
07:00:17 AM
That was a jackass move, V'Shael...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
07:09:10 AM
EvilWizardGlick
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
07:10:05 AM
Sylar gets lightning-f'd?
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
07:10:14 AM
Pennsy...that comment is damaging for a few reasons
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
07:11:31 AM
Mal Carne
by raw_bean
Nov 24th, 2008
07:12:01 AM
The recap show
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
07:12:25 AM
Kring
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
07:13:52 AM
To be devil's advocate, Robert Blanco of USA Today
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
07:14:23 AM
In fact
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
07:14:38 AM
Pennsy
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
07:15:47 AM
Media Messiah...so heroes should become smallville?
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
07:17:36 AM
bacci40
by Mr. Zeddemore
Nov 24th, 2008
07:18:52 AM
Kring apologized, BTW, for the 'saps and dipshits' comment
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
07:34:11 AM
Elle and Sylar's gonna be one hella team...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
07:46:29 AM
Apologizing and Serialized Drama
by Gislef_crow
Nov 24th, 2008
07:59:17 AM
Is anyone still watching this show?
by Fromez
Nov 24th, 2008
08:03:42 AM
"Dark Mohinder" is an oxymoron.
by Cletus Van Damme
Nov 24th, 2008
08:05:36 AM
One sure thing - NBC *has* to move Heroes from Mondays
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:05:46 AM
And yet this still gets viewers? LOST viewers minus their brains
by Jam Banjo
Nov 24th, 2008
08:07:06 AM
Standalone
by Fromez
Nov 24th, 2008
08:07:14 AM
kring is no class act...heroes aint buffy
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
08:09:24 AM
Kring
by The Funketeer
Nov 24th, 2008
08:17:18 AM
Time Travel ain't hard. Ask Journeyman
by IAmMrMonkey!
Nov 24th, 2008
08:21:35 AM
Understand the genre?
by Mal Carne
Nov 24th, 2008
08:23:43 AM
Bacci40 is correct
by IAmMrMonkey!
Nov 24th, 2008
08:24:36 AM
Pennsy you're damn right. re: 24
by turketron
Nov 24th, 2008
08:28:26 AM
Supernatural is an *awesome* show.
by Mal Carne
Nov 24th, 2008
08:32:36 AM
Monkey, Bacci - Buffy, Angel, and now Supernatural does it
by turketron
Nov 24th, 2008
08:33:07 AM
Heroes
by andtheflesh
Nov 24th, 2008
08:35:58 AM
Villian of the week
by andtheflesh
Nov 24th, 2008
08:38:28 AM
turketron
by IAmMrMonkey!
Nov 24th, 2008
08:39:51 AM
IAmMrMonkey!
by turketron
Nov 24th, 2008
08:44:54 AM
how many apologies are we going to get?
by coachaaron
Nov 24th, 2008
08:47:12 AM
Dark Mohinder more Millennium "DARK" Jose Chung's Doomsday Defen
by EvilWizardGlick
Nov 24th, 2008
08:51:12 AM
Hey, IAmMrMonkey!, and turketron, NBC can't gamble
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:51:33 AM
It needs an alien and an android
by EvilWizardGlick
Nov 24th, 2008
08:53:02 AM
Kring, if you don't care, then neither do I
by Double M
Nov 24th, 2008
09:00:44 AM
by the way...claire is Adam Munroe's daughter
by Cap'n Jack
Nov 24th, 2008
09:36:41 AM
If I could go back in time...
by Scabby
Nov 24th, 2008
09:50:23 AM
Heroes Does Work as Unintentional Comedy
by UCB Agent1
Nov 24th, 2008
09:54:18 AM
Cap'n Jack, Claire is Nathan's daughter
by Big Jim
Nov 24th, 2008
10:11:14 AM
Heroes died at the end of the first series
by kwisatzhaderach
Nov 24th, 2008
10:13:12 AM
Kring is a fool.
by DEX
Nov 24th, 2008
10:22:38 AM
I'm glad he's no Whedon...
by ZeroCorpse
Nov 24th, 2008
10:34:11 AM
Tim Kring:Asshole
by therobcat
Nov 24th, 2008
10:39:52 AM
So what's the point...
by Inframan76
Nov 24th, 2008
10:45:35 AM
The ultimate joke here is...
by Kasch
Nov 24th, 2008
10:53:17 AM
LOL@Corpsie
by buffywrestling
Nov 24th, 2008
11:03:15 AM
"Summary: We are dumb, cannot create logical plot"
by PornKing
Nov 24th, 2008
11:05:29 AM
HEROES is the NEW Matrix
by isther
Nov 24th, 2008
11:08:25 AM
If Fuller was canned for...
by RadioactivePinky
Nov 24th, 2008
11:17:27 AM
Caitlin loose end--LAME!
by JacksParasites
Nov 24th, 2008
11:21:26 AM
I always feel comforted by a Pennsy in a TB
by IAmMrMonkey!
Nov 24th, 2008
11:21:52 AM
Storyline Suggestion For Kring!
by IAmMrMonkey!
Nov 24th, 2008
11:24:15 AM
Stopped watching HEROES...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Nov 24th, 2008
11:24:37 AM
This, of course, confirms ...
by Geekgasm
Nov 24th, 2008
11:27:49 AM
JacksParasites
by isther
Nov 24th, 2008
11:30:17 AM
I didn't care for Caitlin myself, but she's turned into a
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
11:33:36 AM
No action
by yomomma
Nov 24th, 2008
11:48:57 AM
From Zeddemore's description, I'ma gonna wish I was
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
11:54:40 AM
Time Travel
by Melvin_Pelvis
Nov 24th, 2008
11:55:17 AM
So, Kring..
by BizarroJerry
Nov 24th, 2008
12:10:26 PM
The Ender Smites Foes
by Tomarru
Nov 24th, 2008
12:12:58 PM
Abandon ship!!!
by jimmy_009
Nov 24th, 2008
12:16:27 PM
Wow. Kring is the mother of all hacks.
by HoboCode
Nov 24th, 2008
12:16:45 PM
Serialized shows...
by BizarroJerry
Nov 24th, 2008
12:20:25 PM
Fixit:
by Christopher3
Nov 24th, 2008
12:20:57 PM
They need to fire Kring off this show pronto.
by hst666
Nov 24th, 2008
12:21:34 PM
actually of all the cock ups in Heroes...
by FamousEccles
Nov 24th, 2008
12:24:51 PM
zerocorpse
by hst666
Nov 24th, 2008
12:26:04 PM
Kring should go do something else
by Newmark
Nov 24th, 2008
12:28:02 PM
Can this shit before it's too late
by performingmonkey
Nov 24th, 2008
12:30:31 PM
This puts all the pressure on the midseason finale...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
12:32:21 PM
Kill Hiro because time travelling negates everything
by Damien Chowder
Nov 24th, 2008
12:37:20 PM
Who should go (character wise...)
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
12:41:03 PM
Hiro, too, Damien...you're right.
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
12:49:57 PM
Sick of Hiro
by Melvin_Pelvis
Nov 24th, 2008
12:59:17 PM
Let's just all go watch 'True Blood' and 'Terminator' instead an
by LordOfDarkness
Nov 24th, 2008
01:09:29 PM
The Ender Smites Foes is gonna get OWNED
by turketron
Nov 24th, 2008
01:09:49 PM
Time Travel isn't a problem as much as it's
by veritasses
Nov 24th, 2008
01:17:17 PM
every week when i watch this show...
by turketron
Nov 24th, 2008
01:20:12 PM
Done
by Unnatural
Nov 24th, 2008
01:26:06 PM
I can travel thru time
by LarryTate
Nov 24th, 2008
01:28:57 PM
why are you watching Knight Rider...
by turketron
Nov 24th, 2008
01:29:02 PM
WATCHMEN ARE OVER
by turketron
Nov 24th, 2008
01:29:47 PM
maybe they can leapfrog to the point this shit is CANCELLED
by slappy jones
Nov 24th, 2008
01:38:03 PM
No zerocorpse, fuck you
by oisin5199
Nov 24th, 2008
01:45:30 PM
IAmMrMonkey!
by Xiphos_2
Nov 24th, 2008
01:46:31 PM
Hey ZeroCorpse
by MetiphisLabs
Nov 24th, 2008
01:53:39 PM
I'm behind on my past 2 weeks of supernatural...
by turketron
Nov 24th, 2008
01:55:19 PM
Oops
by turketron
Nov 24th, 2008
01:56:59 PM
In fact,
by oisin5199
Nov 24th, 2008
01:58:43 PM
Supernatural
by oisin5199
Nov 24th, 2008
02:04:10 PM
I have a great idea.
by Holeman
Nov 24th, 2008
02:10:00 PM
Another thing about Whedon?
by Holeman
Nov 24th, 2008
02:10:34 PM
Tim Kring's an asshole
by luis1210
Nov 24th, 2008
02:12:55 PM
ZeroCorpse...you are just wrong
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
02:13:14 PM
So Kring's basically saying.....
by drewlicious
Nov 24th, 2008
02:18:39 PM
it is just me...
by Nizzuts
Nov 24th, 2008
02:20:45 PM
Offtopic, you don't need to wait til Thanksgiving for
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
02:22:13 PM
Nizzuts....you are way behind
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
02:24:30 PM
I miss the DCAU
by blindambition238
Nov 24th, 2008
02:28:32 PM
Of course time travel is difficult...*COUGH* DOCTOR WHO *COUGH
by SpyGuy
Nov 24th, 2008
02:38:40 PM
Kring, you incompetent boob
by westwood13
Nov 24th, 2008
02:42:17 PM
Kring is an absolute idiot
by karnsculpture
Nov 24th, 2008
02:50:46 PM
Kring you fecker if you can't save Heroes get help!!!
by Damien Chowder
Nov 24th, 2008
02:56:51 PM
bacci40 - nice comparison
by oisin5199
Nov 24th, 2008
02:59:12 PM
The secret to writing good time travel stories..
by LastDragon
Nov 24th, 2008
03:25:23 PM
Kring/Heroes
by kitano0
Nov 24th, 2008
03:28:59 PM
/ falls over laughing
by buffywrestling
Nov 24th, 2008
03:52:32 PM
Everyone at next year's SDCC needs to wear "Remember Caitlin" sh
by SpyGuy
Nov 24th, 2008
04:00:03 PM
shirts
by SpyGuy
Nov 24th, 2008
04:00:30 PM
HOW DID KRING BECOME A SHOWRUNNER?!?
by Mullah Omar
Nov 24th, 2008
04:02:15 PM
Tim Kring could have continued origins in the second season!!!!
by NoPIX
Nov 24th, 2008
04:04:35 PM
Of course the premise is fantastic Omar
by blindambition238
Nov 24th, 2008
04:44:12 PM
blindambition238
by hst666
Nov 24th, 2008
05:08:41 PM
Only way to save this show: Elle shows nipples.
by Damien Chowder
Nov 24th, 2008
05:11:12 PM
BRYAN FULLER FOR NEW SHOWRUNNER
by zooch
Nov 24th, 2008
05:21:25 PM
Cletus Van Damme
by Toonol
Nov 24th, 2008
05:23:48 PM
The Origin is only the FIRST part of a story you IDIOT
by zooch
Nov 24th, 2008
05:33:58 PM
Heroes will go down as a textbook case of...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
05:47:41 PM
hst666....you are mistaken
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
05:50:31 PM
If Tim Kring made Batman
by zooch
Nov 24th, 2008
05:59:53 PM
Pennsy...dont most shows have a bible?
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
06:00:33 PM
When did the eclipse have anything to do with anything?
by jccalhoun
Nov 24th, 2008
06:01:46 PM
I miss Vegas Ron. And DAMN YOU WONKA!
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
06:03:32 PM
What's wrong with preferring origin tales?
by Ribbons
Nov 24th, 2008
06:05:18 PM
Exactly, bacci. Kring may have slipped thru the cracks.
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
06:06:56 PM
so pennsy, elle is retarded cuz daddy mindwiped her?
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
06:29:28 PM
So since this show is over now...
by James Westfall
Nov 24th, 2008
06:33:03 PM
jccalhoun...the eclipse was in the first epi
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
06:34:23 PM
Pennsy: THANK YOU!
by Le Vicious Fishus
Nov 24th, 2008
06:41:37 PM
Why do we still watch this crap?
by fishpillow
Nov 24th, 2008
06:42:41 PM
Ribbons.. that is exactly what he said
by zooch
Nov 24th, 2008
06:46:06 PM
This show is still on the air?
by slave to the one
Nov 24th, 2008
06:58:52 PM
zooch
by Ribbons
Nov 24th, 2008
07:00:06 PM
Chuck is good? I watched 2 episodes and gave up!
by Damien Chowder
Nov 24th, 2008
07:13:39 PM
Bring back fucking Journeyman
by theycallmemrglass
Nov 24th, 2008
07:16:29 PM
ahh if only he could go back in time and NOT
by Maniaq
Nov 24th, 2008
07:34:25 PM
time travel isn't a minefield...
by lynxpro
Nov 24th, 2008
07:45:06 PM
Kring, here's what you do - this WILL WORK
by Maniaq
Nov 24th, 2008
07:56:52 PM
Change may already be in the offing...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
07:57:19 PM
Ribbons
by buffywrestling
Nov 24th, 2008
07:57:22 PM
"The dark sun rises."
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:00:19 PM
Hey, isn't Oz in this episode?
by buffywrestling
Nov 24th, 2008
08:01:44 PM
What happened to Moriarty's Star Trek write-up?
by Amy Chasing
Nov 24th, 2008
08:03:12 PM
"Let
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:03:48 PM
"Let's go get the cheerleader."
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:04:09 PM
Aah...Kristen wasn't in the final scene of the teaser...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:08:08 PM
SAVE THE SHOW: Set an end date!
by tonyd1411
Nov 24th, 2008
08:11:38 PM
"The man's a walking do-over."
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:12:11 PM
"Glasses.."
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:18:06 PM
Even Sylar
by jocutus
Nov 24th, 2008
08:18:11 PM
What's happening with Elle is since she's gotten better
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:19:32 PM
LMAO, jocutus...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:20:26 PM
Amy re: Mori's Star Trek
by buffywrestling
Nov 24th, 2008
08:20:40 PM
Concerning Sylar...
by tonyd1411
Nov 24th, 2008
08:21:57 PM
And Tracy is an idiot
by tonyd1411
Nov 24th, 2008
08:25:04 PM
what the hell?
by buffywrestling
Nov 24th, 2008
08:26:37 PM
Angela already knows Tracy is going to turn heel...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:27:18 PM
HRG
by Scumcock
Nov 24th, 2008
08:40:23 PM
Wow.
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:40:59 PM
You sir, are a dipshit
by Heckles
Nov 24th, 2008
08:41:16 PM
"this is still on the air?"
by BeatsMe
Nov 24th, 2008
08:42:24 PM
"Whorry Clap!"
by jocutus
Nov 24th, 2008
08:47:40 PM
buffywrestling
by Ribbons
Nov 24th, 2008
08:47:54 PM
Heroes thinks its viewers are dumb
by jccalhoun
Nov 24th, 2008
08:48:19 PM
and they think we don't remember people from the future or the p
by jccalhoun
Nov 24th, 2008
08:51:10 PM
Something's missing...it's not as good as it should be.
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
08:52:37 PM
one last thing...
by jccalhoun
Nov 24th, 2008
08:52:40 PM
The phrase every American should learn
by buffywrestling
Nov 24th, 2008
08:53:01 PM
Ribbons
by buffywrestling
Nov 24th, 2008
08:58:15 PM
i wasnt expecting that
by docimian
Nov 24th, 2008
08:59:07 PM
Now THAT's a cliffhanger....
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
09:00:59 PM
"VAPID CUNT: The Tim Kring Story"
by reflecto
Nov 24th, 2008
09:03:29 PM
sick of the whedonites
by FrodoFraggins
Nov 24th, 2008
09:03:32 PM
Idiot
by NudeandAroused
Nov 24th, 2008
09:04:56 PM
FrodoFraggins
by Ribbons
Nov 24th, 2008
09:16:06 PM
Kristen tried...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
09:16:58 PM
Sarah Connor Chronicles
by mithrandir16
Nov 24th, 2008
09:17:11 PM
Pennsy
by mithrandir16
Nov 24th, 2008
09:18:25 PM
THAT's why Noah got the sniper rifle...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
09:20:15 PM
Ho Hum Heroes
by zooch
Nov 24th, 2008
09:20:34 PM
zzzzzzzzzz.....
by feo_dogg
Nov 24th, 2008
09:22:15 PM
You have to be a dipshit to still enjoy this show.
by Lucasblows
Nov 24th, 2008
09:22:28 PM
reflecto....he hired loeb
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
09:22:59 PM
BTW Season 1 was mediocre too
by reflecto
Nov 24th, 2008
09:24:39 PM
bacci
by reflecto
Nov 24th, 2008
09:25:52 PM
And yes, Loeb sucks but they whored his name out
by reflecto
Nov 24th, 2008
09:27:11 PM
Not season 1, reflecto; our paths diverge on its goodness
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
09:31:29 PM
reflecto....ellis would kill off the entire cast
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
09:32:33 PM
That's two...
by buffywrestling
Nov 24th, 2008
09:36:56 PM
If it helps, they do get Mark Verheiden from BSG
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
09:46:08 PM
No, Season 1 was really good
by zooch
Nov 24th, 2008
09:51:40 PM
Who's the dipshit now you jock douche-bag?
by dumbpeoplesuck
Nov 24th, 2008
10:08:24 PM
Ellis's Stormwatch and Authority were anything but brilliant
by jmyoung666
Nov 24th, 2008
10:11:28 PM
"The best way to make it up to you...
by Amy Chasing
Nov 24th, 2008
10:12:35 PM
Verheiden is good
by bacci40
Nov 24th, 2008
10:12:52 PM
Haven't read much Ellis but
by Amy Chasing
Nov 24th, 2008
10:19:43 PM
There's folks who are posting that Heroes ripped off Lost
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
10:20:30 PM
And I seriously think next week is Kristen's farewell...
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
10:29:41 PM
Actually Herc....
by CCon99
Nov 24th, 2008
10:41:50 PM
Doktor Sleepless is amazing.
by Johnny Smith
Nov 24th, 2008
10:48:16 PM
E! Online's Watch With Kristin message board is in
by Pennsy
Nov 24th, 2008
11:15:44 PM
Moar talkbacks. Heroes, Terminator, Dexter
by happybunni
Nov 24th, 2008
11:25:44 PM
True Blood, and all the rest
by happybunni
Nov 24th, 2008
11:32:46 PM
Peter should have gotten powers back during eclipse.
by Supermans
Nov 24th, 2008
11:40:12 PM
Supermans
by T-RACE
Nov 25th, 2008
12:25:20 AM
Pennsy...want a better spoiler???
by bacci40
Nov 25th, 2008
12:35:38 AM
At least Kring is honest. The show is shit.
by White Goodman
Nov 25th, 2008
01:52:25 AM
Yep, the show is def shit
by filmstu2005
Nov 25th, 2008
02:54:36 AM
Kring displays his douchebaggery
by V'Shael
Nov 25th, 2008
02:59:25 AM
PENNSY, ENOUGH!!!
by Sephiroid
Nov 25th, 2008
03:00:07 AM
And Pennsy...
by Sephiroid
Nov 25th, 2008
03:02:51 AM
And by the way...
by Sephiroid
Nov 25th, 2008
03:04:22 AM
Sex tape of Hayden and Milo ?
by V'Shael
Nov 25th, 2008
03:06:47 AM
Jesus - here are the 59 thousand characters...
by AnnoyYou
Nov 25th, 2008
03:08:41 AM
To tell the truth...
by Sephiroid
Nov 25th, 2008
03:09:54 AM
To tell the truth...
by Sephiroid
Nov 25th, 2008
03:12:21 AM
Is Tracy working for Angela?
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Nov 25th, 2008
03:25:13 AM
Any hit list must include
by The McPoyle Clan
Nov 25th, 2008
03:55:04 AM
Fuck you Firefly fans
by magic_ninja
Nov 25th, 2008
04:45:45 AM
Lawrence, KS
by feo_dogg
Nov 25th, 2008
05:31:33 AM
Another show where it pays to have weekly amnesia
by Drath
Nov 25th, 2008
05:41:02 AM
yeah last week's Terminator ROCKED - except
by Maniaq
Nov 25th, 2008
05:48:46 AM
Sarah Connor was good this week...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Nov 25th, 2008
06:05:16 AM
fuckin hell... what is this shit
by turketron
Nov 25th, 2008
07:52:47 AM
LALALALALALALALALALA
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
07:53:23 AM
Why are the (Canada) Global TV promos so much better
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
07:59:26 AM
Tim Kring needs to know being "cute" does not pay his bills
by DallasGoodbar
Nov 25th, 2008
08:22:29 AM
NOTHING WRONG WITH CALLING FANS DIPSHITS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 25th, 2008
09:36:23 AM
I realise that Kring...
by Sephiroid
Nov 25th, 2008
09:51:23 AM
And one other thing:
by Sephiroid
Nov 25th, 2008
09:54:26 AM
Sop watching this dreck people.
by HoboCode
Nov 25th, 2008
10:03:47 AM
As long as i have no Neilson box, or similar
by V'Shael
Nov 25th, 2008
10:14:30 AM
4.5 rating, 6 share last night (household-wise)...
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
10:38:01 AM
HERC WHERE IS THE FRINGE TB?
by SithMenace
Nov 25th, 2008
10:40:59 AM
When it comes to current ratings vs. year-ago #'s...
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
10:48:11 AM
Pennsy...them is jericho numbers
by bacci40
Nov 25th, 2008
10:51:49 AM
I knew this show was bad
by SithMenace
Nov 25th, 2008
10:52:17 AM
Amen on a Fringe TB
by HoboCode
Nov 25th, 2008
11:05:33 AM
making it up as they go along
by MurderMostFowl
Nov 25th, 2008
11:18:42 AM
Hayden has a big ass for a girl her age
by chimpjnr
Nov 25th, 2008
11:21:41 AM
CCon99, it goes both ways
by Big Jim
Nov 25th, 2008
11:24:39 AM
I too call for a return of Black Hole Bubbles
by Big Jim
Nov 25th, 2008
11:31:53 AM
As for the "dipshits" comment, I didn't take offense
by Big Jim
Nov 25th, 2008
11:49:15 AM
Kring, i hope your show gets canceled
by Bob C. Cock
Nov 25th, 2008
12:22:51 PM
I actually feel sorry for Kring
by veritasses
Nov 25th, 2008
12:26:29 PM
Heroes is a joke
by AbsoluteTruth
Nov 25th, 2008
12:50:46 PM
Not buying it anymore Tim Kring
by zooch
Nov 25th, 2008
12:56:27 PM
There was development in that scene.
by Big Jim
Nov 25th, 2008
12:57:32 PM
claire
by docimian
Nov 25th, 2008
01:24:36 PM
I watch this show alla time
by Napoleon Park
Nov 25th, 2008
01:25:56 PM
but seriously
by Napoleon Park
Nov 25th, 2008
01:27:54 PM
TIM KRANG
by turketron
Nov 25th, 2008
01:32:44 PM
No, really
by Napoleon Park
Nov 25th, 2008
01:33:19 PM
You nutty kids
by Napoleon Park
Nov 25th, 2008
01:40:22 PM
So now they're ripping off Forest Gump?
by Xiphos_2
Nov 25th, 2008
01:40:52 PM
One more?
by Napoleon Park
Nov 25th, 2008
01:44:54 PM
its more entertaining to...
by orange cinema
Nov 25th, 2008
01:46:14 PM
Also... Hey, howdy Mr. Xip -
by Napoleon Park
Nov 25th, 2008
01:48:51 PM
TIM KRING....DUUUUUUUH!
by My Mom Is A Whore
Nov 25th, 2008
01:53:49 PM
chimpjnr... you say that like it's a bad thing?
by MurderMostFowl
Nov 25th, 2008
01:58:18 PM
"I waited 50-100 issues to see resolved before I gave up"
by Big Jim
Nov 25th, 2008
02:30:33 PM
Kring is a dipshit..............
by Yoda's Ball Sack
Nov 25th, 2008
02:38:37 PM
Kring will suffer the same fate as Bill Watterson.
by Yoda's Ball Sack
Nov 25th, 2008
02:44:23 PM
9th Wonders comic book is a tired plot device...
by turketron
Nov 25th, 2008
02:45:12 PM
I meant to say,
by turketron
Nov 25th, 2008
02:45:44 PM
Blah Blah Blah
by Sackratte
Nov 25th, 2008
02:51:45 PM
MurderMostFowl - I do see it as a bad thing
by chimpjnr
Nov 25th, 2008
03:34:05 PM
I would drive a piece of wood through her...
by turketron
Nov 25th, 2008
04:10:04 PM
Sackratte...i wish you lost fans would accept
by bacci40
Nov 25th, 2008
04:11:27 PM
You may not like the direction...
by Turtle_Z
Nov 25th, 2008
04:17:26 PM
Thanks pal, but you are, still, a dipshit
by BitterMan23
Nov 25th, 2008
04:22:29 PM
DVR is my best Pal
by Nesstar
Nov 25th, 2008
04:27:15 PM
awful...
by LarryTate
Nov 25th, 2008
04:32:04 PM
NBC's midseason schedule out: Heroes stays on Mondays
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
04:44:20 PM
Heroes failed before an episode ever aired...
by Ravetin
Nov 25th, 2008
05:18:07 PM
Instead of recyling story points from previous seasons
by zooch
Nov 25th, 2008
06:45:09 PM
I write a recap of the show every week for CollegeHumor
by Burgundy82
Nov 25th, 2008
06:46:16 PM
Hopefully "Fugitives" is completely different
by zooch
Nov 25th, 2008
07:01:22 PM
zooch
by Burgundy82
Nov 25th, 2008
07:13:55 PM
I agree Heroes is shit but it's better than a lot of shit on TV
by Damien Chowder
Nov 25th, 2008
08:27:42 PM
zooch....did you read the spoilers?
by bacci40
Nov 25th, 2008
08:31:33 PM
Time Travel IS a minefield--if you are a dipshit writer
by chromedome
Nov 25th, 2008
09:37:03 PM
Napoleon Park howdy
by Xiphos_2
Nov 25th, 2008
09:39:19 PM
Damien, Kristen does have 5 movies opening next year
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
09:51:18 PM
She's gonna be Lucy Stillman in the Assassins Creed sequel
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
09:56:44 PM
there should be Fringe and Sarah Connor Chronicles TBs
by chromedome
Nov 25th, 2008
09:59:19 PM
Xiphos!
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
09:59:31 PM
T:SCC is like a pair of eggs. It's over, easy.
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
10:03:24 PM
Pennsy--ordinarily I would agree based on ratings
by chromedome
Nov 25th, 2008
10:09:47 PM
Oh, and 'NCIS' is spinning off, per Ent. Weekly
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
10:11:18 PM
Yeah, chromedome, but 1.8/5 is Univision territory...
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
10:20:00 PM
At this point, I'd prefer Maya over !TeenHiro!
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
10:27:27 PM
And this score, just in: Elle 3, Sylar 0
by Pennsy
Nov 25th, 2008
10:40:25 PM

by jackofhearts29
Nov 25th, 2008
11:21:40 PM
Pennsy
by Xiphos_2
Nov 26th, 2008
12:26:18 AM
TSCC deserves a Talkback, FRINGE does not
by SpyGuy
Nov 26th, 2008
07:44:41 AM
Good to see you're not too attached to flying boy
by Big Jim
Nov 26th, 2008
09:09:14 AM
Now about Elle, TESF....
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2008
09:10:34 AM
Maya can act? Isn't that, like, an oxymoron?
by Pennsy
Nov 26th, 2008
09:19:23 AM
Oxymoron is when two opposite words go together
by V'Shael
Nov 26th, 2008
10:58:48 AM
Dear Mr. Kring
by timmer33
Nov 26th, 2008
11:33:12 AM
Case Study:
by chromedome
Nov 26th, 2008
04:13:08 PM
Pennsy
by STLost
Nov 26th, 2008
04:13:46 PM
"Jesus time wasting go nowhere Christ."
by Big Jim
Nov 26th, 2008
08:51:47 PM
If he wants to appologize...
by Inframan76
Nov 26th, 2008
10:15:55 PM
LOL what a cunt.....
by TheWaqman
Nov 26th, 2008
11:06:48 PM
Does Heroes deserve to be torrented?
by Amy Chasing
Nov 26th, 2008
11:47:33 PM
I just got through watching Monday's episode..
by Mr Incredible
Nov 27th, 2008
07:53:02 AM
So your Xbox360 is still in one piece, TESF?
by Pennsy
Nov 27th, 2008
12:00:27 PM
it's way too late, but in defense of Kring...
by I87D
Nov 27th, 2008
12:01:52 PM
Happy Thanksgiving, BTW, you frakkers. :)
by Pennsy
Nov 27th, 2008
12:22:39 PM
I87D
by timmer33
Nov 28th, 2008
12:19:39 PM
The Ender Smites Foes... you must be one of the ones
by MurderMostFowl
Nov 28th, 2008
06:15:31 PM
9th Wonder
by The Cine-eater
Nov 29th, 2008
08:15:16 AM
He should apologize.
by mrfan
Nov 29th, 2008
10:53:01 AM
I lol'd when Sylar said "I hate heroes"
by KinjoAlcoholicNinja
Nov 29th, 2008
11:38:17 AM
The Cine-eater, I was wondering the same thing
by Big Jim
Nov 29th, 2008
12:57:14 PM
Screw Kring...
by jimmy rabbitte
Nov 29th, 2008
03:03:29 PM
jimmy rabbitte...
by Son of a Butch
Nov 29th, 2008
07:58:41 PM
They guy who plays Arthur (Robert Forster) is awful as an actor
by indyjonez100
Dec 1st, 2008
12:39:22 PM
Ender Smites Foes, your recap is spot-on
by Big Jim
Dec 1st, 2008
01:28:19 PM

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