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24: REDEMPTION!!

Published at: Nov. 23, 2008, 8:56 p.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!!
No annoyed Chloe O’Brian, no angry Soul-Patch Tony, no lesbitastic Naked Mandy. From past seasons of “24” fans will recognize only Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) and, in the U.S. capital, presidential advisor Tom Lennox (Peter MacNichol) and lame-duck president Noah Daniels (Powers Boothe). The Sunday TV-movie “24: Redemption” takes place almost four years after season six, temporarily relocating Bauer to the fictional war-torn African nation of Sangala as the former counter-terrorism agent finds himself caught up for two real-time hours in the plight of refugee schoolchildren. Those who require nothing more than to see the famous blooping digital clock and Sutherland back in sweaty Bauer mode will be satisfied, and the movie may even be a slight improvement over most of the widely panned sixth season, but “Redemption” lacks a lot of the keen suspense, twisty plotting and impossible moral choices I associate with the show’s first five esteemed seasons. A lot of the movie feels like old business, watered down in a new locale. Bauer remains heroic and self-sacrificing. He’s trying to avoid agents of the U.S. government. He spends some time undergoing torture. Less time is spent in D.C., where we meet some of the players (including a shady businessman played by Jon Voight) who presumably play bigger roles once season seven launches in about a month and a half. The first episodes of the coming season were shot long before tonight’s adventure was written and – leaving aside some fleeting shots of Carly Pope in her underwear – I suspect that the scenes set in the nation’s capital on Inauguration Day make for a pretty disposable season-seven prologue. Of some note is Boothe’s Daniels, who served as Wayne Palmer’s vice president in season six and manifests here easily the least sympathetic Democratic president we’ve seen on “24.” Conversely, the character played by Cherry Jones is, at least so far, the 24verse’s least sinister Republican president. Though I suppose this could change in an instant. If watching helpless smallfry duck bullets sounds like a better time than watching nakedness-prone lesbian assassins scheming to kill a presidential candidate, then “Redemption” is the “24” for you. On the whole, though, the movie diminishes my expectations for season seven, which launches Jan. 11. Entertainment Weekly says:
… a very TV-movie-ish TV movie … As Redemption picks up, we find Jack working with his old special-ops pal (Trainspotting's Robert Carlyle) at a boys' school in the fictional war-torn African country of Sangala. There he bonds with ridiculously earnest kids and is the owner of a beautiful scarf so strangely cherished, it should have been tagged Plot Point for Later Use. …
USA Today says:
… how you view Redemption may depend on whether you see it as a stand-alone TV movie or as an introductory episode to next year's seventh season. As a film, it ranks as one of the year's best, admittedly against thin competition. As a 24 episode, however, it's just a tad less enticing. Oh, there's much that is very good here, starting with the sheer joy of having Jack back. But there's also a bit too much that we've seen before, led by that glum, reluctant, repentant savior routine that threatens to bleed all the fun out of the series. …
Newsday says:
… Sunday's two hours? It feels like television. Not bad. Not great. It's talky and placidly paced for "24." You'll find yourself wondering: When does the fun begin? Hopefully in January. …
The New York Times says:
… “Redemption” is a more sober, stripped-down version of “24,” and that’s refreshing. … The villainous mastermind, Jonas Hodges (Jon Voight), is cartoonish, but the depiction of the conflict is highly realistic and compelling. … “Redemption” is at its best when it focuses on action, not the after-action reports, and its best is awfully good. …
The Los Angeles Times says:
… There's nothing like a group of round-faced young boys running for their lives through field and forest to instantly ratchet up a story's emotional level. The seventh season may take place back in the States, but the prequel firmly establishes not only what is at stake here -- the desperate lives of innocent men, women and children -- but also the moral responsibility the United States continues to have in the world. …
The Chicago Tribune says:
… Sigh. Don’t hope for sharp characterization in this “24” movie, or an especially believable Washington, D.C., storyline. (Would the American president really take much notice of a rumored African coup, especially in a country that has no wealth or strategic value?) Still, if you’re in the mood for a B-grade action movie in which Jack Bauer both blows up bad guys and hugs cute kids, “Redemption” may be just the ticket.
The San Francisco Chronicle says:
… kind of "24" lite. Two hours takes some of the adrenaline away (although the thumping clock and multiple-camera perspectives remain). And it doesn't take much thinking to figure out that Jack will survive whatever hardships he faces in Africa, since he's got 24 episodes ahead of him. …
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:
… pretty typical "24" fodder … Jack bonds with one child -- "24" at its most contrived heart-tugging -- and mocks a namby-pamby U.N. worker ("Why don't you go hide in the shelter with the other children!"). And because it's "24" and he's Jack "Misery Follows Me" Bauer, he suffers and sacrifices and endures loss. As for the title? Honestly, there's little if any redemption to be found. …
The Boston Globe says:
… rates 2 on a scale of 1-10. … It's little more than a long commercial. … after watching Sunday's flat effort to regain relevance after the tedious debacle that was season 6, I suspect that the shelf life of "24" and Jack Bauer have expired. …
Newsweek says:
… Turning Jack into a pure hero figure from a dark, flawed one is a shrewd choice that–let's hope–will last through season 7, which begins in January. …
Variety says:
… delivers two entertaining real-time hours …
The Hollywood Reporter says:
… a reminder that “24” still is the place to go for emotional thrills and heartpounding peril. …
8 p.m. Sunday. Fox.

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  • Nov. 23, 2008, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Can't wait to watch it

    by david26

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Damn it,,,,2nd

    by The real Jack Bauer

    My jack sac held me back

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Quite the range of reviews....

    by Thrillho77

    Literally everything on the spectrum, from "great" to "meh" to "bad." <p> Nothing to keep me from it - if season 6 didn't do that already, itself.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 2:47 a.m. CST

    4 Years???

    by pantera777

    How old IS Jack by now...?

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 2:54 a.m. CST

    nakedness-prone lesbian assassins

    by alice 13

    gets my vote.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 2:57 a.m. CST

    24 is such a gimmick now

    by MapMan

    I mean, in the first season Jack at least fell asleep for a few minutes. Now everyone is fresh as a daisy all day long.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Time to re-invent the whole series

    by moviemaniac-7

    I for one think they should have left the US after season 3. Africa is a good place, Europe is quite compact and dense and you can get from one big city to another in two hours or so. Budget constraints have vetoed these ideas, I reckon, but I am a fan who admits another 24 hours set in the US - albeit the different coast - could get us more of the same.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 4:17 a.m. CST

    W.C. Fields said it best:

    by Rocco Curioso

    "Never act with children or animals; they always steal the show". All we need (kids aside) is a lingering shot of a giraffe, rhino, or lion to kiss this one goodbye. "24" has already had its share of Uber-Bitches (Sherry Palmer and Nina Myers certainly leap to mind). I don't need to gaze upon Cherry Jones's Miss Piggy mug and be reminded of that "He's a righteous dude" porker from Ferris Bueller's Day Off" for an ENTIRE SEASON to remind me how far this show has fallen. Herc's obituary just saved me a heeeeeelluva lotta wasted viewing time.<P>Actually, I'd like to see "24" rebooted, with Ferris subbing for Jack, Cameron as his Guy Friday good/bad/dead/alive Tony surrogate, and Mia Sara in place of Mia Kirschner as Mandy, the lesbianiacal hitwoman fanboy wet dream. Jeffrey Jones would make an acceptable George Mason.<P>This show was once King. It didn't fall off the throne; it was KICKED off by the writers and producers. Sad; very sad.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 5:19 a.m. CST

    I expected Herc to hate it

    by optimus122

    but it seems quite a few others don't like it as well. I am pretty sure this will be the last time we see 24 so enjoy this last season. By mid season it will be getting TSCC type ratings and be moved to Friday nights.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Whatever!! I still can't wait!!!

    by echobase

    Here in the UK it'll be on Monday night!!!

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 5:49 a.m. CST

    How old is Jack Bauer ?

    by question83

    I mean, after all of this time jumps from season to season. Fifty ?

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Isn't this the plot of...

    by gopher

    ...Far Cry 2?

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 6:59 a.m. CST

    CCon99

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Yeah, he also raves about Lost. And then two years later, when it's safe, says he didn't like something about it.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Lost me

    by NudeandAroused

    I think this show has run its course. It should have quit as Jack walked off into the sunset at the end of season 4.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    What the fuck is your obsession with Mandy?

    by V'Shael

    She appeared as a minor character in Season fucking 1, and that's it. Yet there's never a 24 story without a reference to Naked lesbian Mandy. <p> Dude, it's beyond a joke. It's beyond stalking. It's a fucking sickness. You need help.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8 a.m. CST

    I agree that i should have ended...

    by emeraldboy

    in season 4. Lost in its 5th season is by a country mile the best show on tv. lost haters can go hang.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Even 'average' 24 is still aces in my book!

    by BiggusDickus

    I mean, it's Jack Bauer for feck's sake!<p>And yes Herc, Mandy is filthy.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Bauer kicks Obama's ass

    by GeorgieBoy

    That wimp couldn't win an arm wrestling match a 6-year old let alone go up against Bauer.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:18 a.m. CST

    People are idiots season 6 was better than most

    by Reelheed

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Do you think Obama would have been elected if it werent for 24?

    by Reelheed

    Everyone seems to expect greatness in a David Palmer-esque stylee. Just a thought...

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:40 a.m. CST

    No one really cares about 24...

    by Thick McRunFast

    ...unless the villains are bomb-carrying Middle Eastern terrorists. C'mon, the GOP needs to rile up the base and the centrists need to be pissing their wishy-washy underpants!

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by MRJONZ72

    Mandy was actualy in Seasons 1, 2 and 4. If I remember correctly didnt she get a pardon from the President in season 4, for her attempt on David Palmer at the end of Season 2? Anyway does anyone know what year it is now in 24 continuity..I was just wondering I kinda lost track. Seaons 4 and 6 I find lesser than the rest..While I found 4 never boring..just found the level of absurdiness a bit much..Season 6 was just definetly a major dip in quality overall aginst the rest of the seasons. Hopefully Season 7 picks it back up. However I do wonder if this show had run it's course. Hopefully the movie and Season 7 will prove me wrong. But I can't remember what her pardon was in exhange for though.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Damn

    by MRJONZ72

    Wish we could go back and re-edit posts lol.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Jack has become a caricature of the action hero.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    24 is fucking tired now. <p> Jack is one dimensional and the show simply recycles plot from season to season. <p> Has everyone forgotten the continual kidnapping of Jacks family in the first two seasons?

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Obama elected cause Bush sucked ass so bad

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Bush sucked ass so bad a half black man with the middle name of Hussien was elected.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    24 needs Blind Black governor turned president.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Dudes got it all coke, getting his freak on, wife getting her freak on,and being a Blind Black man. <p> Fuck reminds me of the mayor on Reno 911.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    "...the show’s first five esteemed seasons...", really?

    by Pdorwick

    The only seasons I'd call "esteemed" would be 1 and 5. The rest range from poor to ridiculous. Let's not try to rewrite history here just because Season 6 was unwatchable.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    24: Razor

    by Anakin Whoopass

    So what year is it now in 24 continuity? This show has had so many 2 and 4-year jumps forward it ought to look like Blade Runner by now.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    lesbians?!?!?!!

    by Judge Briggs

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Still hopeful

    by SmokeFilledTavern

    I think it could be okay. I have much higher hopes for season 7. I didn't think 6 was all that bad, just not as fantastic as 5 was. I'm thinking 24 will have a couple more seasons tops.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST

    So is it like 2020 in "24" time?

    by Laserhead

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Body Count?

    by Crow3711

    Does any one know Jack Bauer's official body count through the six season thus far? I would love to know that number. Has to be close to Four or Five Hundred.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Ah, Noah Daniels...

    by Raymar

    How I wish I could vote for him.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST

    The problem for 24 is...

    by emeraldboy

    on seemingly killing off Tony Alemeida. they brought him back and without saying where he had been. what he was doing. it is going to taken a huge leap of faith for 24 audience to accept bad guy tony almeida. what next the return of president palmer and his duplicitous wife. This is 24 so I wouldnt rule it out. or the return of totally imperillied kim. and Wouldnt rule out the possibility of the return of wussy jack. the crybaby.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Seemingly at the start...

    by emeraldboy

    of season 7 hack is on trial for something. and Mary Lynn Rakjskubs character been axed. does anyone know. I agree with the questions being asked about the timelime. Does this movie bridge the gap between the end of season 6, jack looking over a cliff and Season 7 when he is on trial?

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    People bitchng about Tony coming back...

    by I Dunno

    seem to forget that the whole show is a look into Jack's life in 24 hour real time snapshots. So what snapshots did we see? Jack sees Tony get injected with some shit and carried away, then Jack has to move on and handle some other shit. He's taken away to a Chinese prison, comes back and handles some other shit. Should someone had come in and say, "Oh by the way, Tony's still alive"? Maybe but it didn't unnecessarily have to happen in what the audience saw. <p>no lesbitastic Naked Mandy though, I can't forgive.</p>

  • Nov. 23, 2008, noon CST

    and Reelheed...

    by I Dunno

    ...unless you were joking, you're a fucking moron.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    has chloe o brien been written...

    by emeraldboy

    out of the show since CTU has been disbanded.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    I am very familiar with the concept...

    by emeraldboy

    of drama happening off screen.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Redemption is set Four years after season 6?

    by Xiphos_2

    Time wise for the story wouldn't that make it somewhere near 2020? Man the timeline of this series is wacky, but for a sixty plus year old man Jack Baur looks kinda spry.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    24 - Dark Continent!!!

    by TallBoy66

    Seems like Herc's old term would be a better title than what we got. I liked Exile as a title better than Redemption. Looking forward to this, because I always find shows/movies mixed reviews are fairly interesting. Also, even so-so 24 is still better than 90% of TeeVee cause it's Jack Bauer kicking ass.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    The Jack Sack is Back!

    by otm shank

    24 rocks.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Quck! What's the line for Redemption's "Dammit!" count?!

    by TallBoy66

    I'd say it's at 3, and I'm gonna take the over, anyone want to get the under?

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    No Moles

    by SUPERJIM

    Not a single mole, or something similar, in CTU or any other government agency this season please. That's all I ask.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    To the person who mentioned CTU...

    by emeraldboy

    CTU was destroyed. By NoaH Daniels Right hand man. who also turned the tables on noah daniels. by exposing his affair with the blondy haired lady whose name I cant remember. Reid Pollack was the mans name.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST

    24:Redemption and Season 7 is in 2012

    by Dogmatic

    Season 1 to Season 2 = 1 year <p> Season 2 to Season 3 = 3 years <p> Season 3 to Season 4 = 1 1/2 yrs <p> Season 4 to Season 5 = 6 months <p> Season 5 to Season 6 = 1 1/2 years <p> Season 6 to Season 7 = 4 years <p> Soooo... 1 + 3 + 1 1/2 + 6 months + 1 1/2 + 4 = 11 1/2 so 24 started in 2001 so 2001 plus 11 1/2 puts tonight's movie and season 7 in the middle of the year 2012 <p> Could this season be building to the end of the world?!?! hehehe

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    I Dunno

    by Reelheed

    You're a fucking simpleton pal.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    CTU is gone?

    by SUPERJIM

    I seriously cannot remember that. Did it happen in season 6? Now it is gone, do you think they will use the CTU phone beep thingy as their mobile phone ringtones?

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Jack Bauer Power Hour

    by kwisatzhaderach

    x 2!

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Soulpatch is disguised as a tribal chief...

    by banditmania

    wearing Edgar's ears around his neck.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    please, let this be good!!!

    by echobase

    I really want season 7 to kick ass and get amazing ratings, otherwise I really think this will be the end for Jack

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST

    "24 started in 2001"

    by ElPaw

    It was set on the day of the California presidential primary, so it was either 2000 or 2004. Or some other leap year.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 7:21 p.m. CST

    When does LOST begin...?

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    *SIGH* -- This just makes me miss LOST even more.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 7:25 p.m. CST

    24: Blood Diamond at the Hotel Rawanda

    by DarkhawkPrime

    Title says it all. Since Jack Bauer is basically John Mclean I guess you could also call it 24: Die Harding in the Bush

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 7:39 p.m. CST

    My DAMMIT! number - 5

    by Pennsy

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Democrat and Republican

    by oisin5199

    Despite Herc's exhortations, 24 has never said what political party their presidents represent. As far as I know, they've never used the terms 'Democrat' or 'Republican', just conservative and liberal, and even those not often. There's usually a difference between a hawkish president and a less hawkish one, but that's it. This is a fictional universe, thus fictional presidents and fictional African countries. Though I can't help but wonder if people were more ready to accept a black president after seeing David Palmer as such a commanding presence on the show. I wonder if Obama owes partial thanks to the writers of 24 and to Dennis Haysbert.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    hahaha

    by Phimseto

    I love the portrayal of the U.N. Spot-on.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Benjamin Button Trailer

    by Fat and Curious

    fucking tight

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Boy, does the U.N. look bad.

    by tonagan

    But, what are they going to do about it? Send a strongly worded memo to FOX?

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Good thing they cut to commercial before Jack started crying.

    by tonagan

    I thought he only did that when nuclear bombs went off in LA.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Good point Oisin5199

    by Fing Fang Foom

    Morgan Freeman is Deep Impact too. haha But you are right. i agree.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Remember in Season One when Mandy...

    by malificus

    ..picked up that joker on the plane and took him in the bathroom to bang out a quick one? Did she or did she not ask him beforehand: "Do you lick?" 'cause if she did...hottest statement on TV EVER. If she didn't...I'll still prefer to remember it that way.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 8:57 p.m. CST

    First 90 minutes a bore, final 30 minutes exciting

    by Mike Hunt

    I'll buy the DVD

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Wasn't bad, but I got no faith for the season.

    by Shermdawg

    Tony as the villian is some bullshit....if he really is the villian.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:14 p.m. CST

    oisin5199 (RE: David Palmer)...

    by MisterE

    There was a questionnaire answered by the Presidential candidates during the last election cycle, and one of the questions was "Who is your favorite television President?". I can't remember Obama's answer, but McCain's was "David Palmer". <p> http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20217335_2,00.html

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Jon Voight

    by Titus05

    Jon Voight looks like he's gonna make a really cool villian...maybe the best villian since Habib Marwan...the new season looks really amazing judging by the previews...much better then this watered down Africa prequel

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:23 p.m. CST

    they probably called it "REDEMPTION" because...

    by Greenleaf1

    ...there are so many Shawshank cast members in the movie. Ok, not that many, but I counted at least 2 (the warden was that "Ethan" guy, and Tommy was the guy who served Jack the subpoena).

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:24 p.m. CST

    P.S.

    by Titus05

    one more thing...the guy playing the President's son also seems pretty interesting...for once the Washington stuff was actually more interesting then the Jack stuff...usually it's the total opposite

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Fuck Comcast DC in the mouth

    by tiredpm

    I double checked I had this set up on DVR at 7:55 and at some point in the next five minutes the DVR service from Comcast made the show "To Be Announced." No 24. I'm one unhappy fucking bunny right now. This happen to anyone else?

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 9:47 p.m. CST

    I like the idea of a TV movie between seasons

    by Mike Hunt

    The 24 producers should have made this a regular thing after Season 1 (as opposed to a 15 minute mini-episode on DVD).

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 10:58 p.m. CST

    TallBoy66 wins the "Dammit!" pool

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Exactly three "Dammit!"s, plus two uses of "Son Of A Bitch". Now...do we count these towards the season seven tally, or not? As for Redemption...eh. After the lameness of season six, seven is going to have to be EXCEPTIONAL to keep me watching with any sort of avidity.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 11:23 p.m. CST

    MisterE

    by Logan-X

    I think Obama's was Jed Bartlett from West Wing.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    I liked it

    by Logan-X

    I thought the movie was pretty decent - a good bridge to the next season. The trailer at the end for Season 7 looked promising, so I'm looking forward to it after the abysmal Season 6. 24 used to be my favorite show, but Season 6 got way too ridiculous. Not that the show couldn't be ridiculous in earlier seasons, but 6 was just too much to take. Awful. It was good to see Jack back in action, though. He truly is the Solid Snake of TV.

  • Nov. 23, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Timeline... 2017

    by TheSecondQuest

    Assuming Season 1 started in 2004 (since they menion the Dept of Homeland Security, it has to be a post-9/11 election and thus cannot be 2000), you add 18 months to get to Season 2, + 3 years for Season 3, + 18 months for Season 4 + 20 months for Season 6, plus 4 years for Season 7. That's about 11.5 years, rounding up tp 12 to account for S1 being part-way through the year, which gives us 2016, but since we're already at inauguration, it's got to be Jan 2017 (figure a month or so is accounted for in the "X years" statements being rounded up), at least when Redemption starts.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 12:46 a.m. CST

    That was one episode stretched out to two

    by mefrog

    And thus was really mediocre. It didn't help that they were obviously trying to go for a "real" movie feel yet were severely restrained by the television budget.<br> <br> I'll still tune in for the season, but not for long if it doesn't pick up.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Now I have a machine gun. HoHoHo

    by jimbojones123

    Funniest part of the episode. A few more thoughts... <P> Why didn't he take the 2nd machine gun after the kid dropped it? <P> "You'll find everything you need." What, 2 pistols and a few 1/4 sticks of dynamite??? Very funny. <P> Is the Jack Scarf going to sell with the Jack Sack? <P> Didn't Powers Booth feel shame at the end of last season, why so Syria now? <P> Was this the Mr. Eko flashback extended cut? <P> More hot chicks in undies please...if possible, lesbian, and named Mandy. <P> So that's why that guy left Chuck so randomly. <P> Wasn't Tom...nevermind, I guess I've blocked most of season 6 out just fine. <P> Does Kim really need to come back again? Is she going to be dating somebody older than her grandpa this time?

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 12:50 a.m. CST

    The Candyman Returns!

    by JimStansel

    Did the 24 people not remember they cast Tony Todd (The Candyman) as an American detective in season 3? He's back now as Juma. Has the acting pool dried up or something?

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 1:09 a.m. CST

    Not bad. I dug it. Bring on next season

    by Heckles

    And is there a show Tony Todd has not appeared on?

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 3:09 a.m. CST

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  • Nov. 24, 2008, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Was that it?

    by The McPoyle Clan

    Anybody know if this was the African episode they originally intended to shoot, but was denied by Fox for money reasons? Obviously, Fox changed their mind about the budget, but I'm wondering if they revised or changed it.<br><br>On a bigger level, this "movie" didn't do much for me. I see that people are starting to realize that the concept is getting tired, and retooling it around Jack's conscience is trying to play to what has traditionally been one of its weakness, aside from the first half of the season when his family was at stake. The nefarious corrupt politician or corporate powerbroker with their band of moles is also stale. Who needs all the shadowy stuff when the villainy occurs openly in the real world when politicos make no attempt to conceal the buying and selling of government.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 4:44 a.m. CST

    The format...

    by JimStansel

    They need to change up the format like they did with Lost. They can still keep the style and integrity of the show while trying new ways of telling the story. Why not have each episode act as 24 hours spanning 24 days? That way you'd be able to have Jack travel more and cover a longer time period. Do a mix of a full day, an hour, etc.. Whatever. I understand they like to say the show is 'real-time' but we all know it isn't even close to that. So why not retool the format a bit and make it new again?

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 5:58 a.m. CST

    CTU was..

    by emeraldboy

    slowly infilitrated, had its members picked off. then it was decimated by jacks dad and his crappy terror orgisation which jacks brother lead. he died. Philip bauers organisation had infilitrated US govt. Noah Daniels right had man reid pollack, wanted to bring down wayne palmers presidency. Strike Iran knowing iran would strike back. there by setting up a far right state. Philp bauer saw CTU as a threat. he instructed his organisation to get rid of it. which they duly did. so it was scattered to the four winds. CTU staffers like Chloe O brien, Michelle Dessler, and tony almeida were all hunted down. Chloe was the only one who escaped and wasnt killed. Michelle died. Tony went mad. one idea the writers had was that 24 would be located in washington. AS that is where CTU is now set.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 6:16 a.m. CST

    The format... by JimStansel

    by awesomebri

    great idea... i actually hate the show because of its format. It worked for season 1 but anyway the end of season one was such a load of rubish that i couldnt watch it after that.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Wasn't it nice...

    by Droid

    to see all the africans waving goodbye to Mr Bauer at the end. "Thanks for saving yourselves, Mister America. We'll go get slaughtered by Candyman now."

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 7:56 a.m. CST

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    by just pillow talk

    Perhaps it was because Jack hasn't been around in quite a while, but I thought it was great. Why? Because there was much more focus on Jack. <p>And I guess that snitch doesn't have anymore "concrete" evidence, huh?<p>I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for: not sure I know what you mean, as Jack had to turn himself in to just save the 14 kids he brought there in the first place. He saved them, but there was nothing he could do for everyone else waiting at the embassy's gates.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 7:59 a.m. CST

    That was better than expected

    by Fromez

    I liked the president's son storyline and hope they continue his involvment. His girlfriend (Famke Janssen lookalike) looks like she might be a villain <p> Only thing I didn't really like was Noah Daniels' ott dislikeability, and the portrayal of the UN guy as a snivelling runt. If that's US perception of the UN, or how Fox want you to see them, deary me.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 8:27 a.m. CST

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    by chimpjnr

    Certainly felt like it. Anyway...not overly impressed by last night's effort. Felt off-key, and not just because it was set somewhere other than LA. Was it really filmed in Africa? Felt more like Sonoma Valley at times. I half-expected Thomas Keller to wander through a scene.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Not Enough Jack

    by Come_ON

    It was pretty average, I wish it had just focused on Jack and ditched the real-time format, at least for this movie. I could care less about the new President or how Jon Voight is evil (shock!). I did like when Jack was hurling dynamite though.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    I also liked

    by Come_ON

    that the UN guy was portrayed as a complete pussy and possibly french.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Alright, I guess

    by _Maltheus_

    I enjoyed it more than most of last season, but there were a number of missed opportunities and stupid parts. The land mine thing, was retarded. I guess there are no rocks in Africa. And quite frankly, it should have blown up when the kid let the pin rise. And ain't it a wonder how quickly Jack heals from burns? As for missed opportunities, I think the inauguration should have happened halfway through so that they could have advanced the story on that front too. I guess they're setting things up for next season, but they could have given us some story there.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 8:51 a.m. CST

    The mole

    by _Maltheus_

    Although it wasn't revealed, I'm guessing it was the president's daughter-in-law. She works with that guy and was trying to keep him away from her husband. So let's just get that out of the way now. She'll be one of the baddies next season.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST

    If you didn't see every single plot point coming...

    by Garbageman33

    Clearly, you've never watched 24 before. For a supposedly unpredictable show, it's gotten mighty predictable. I think when they were walking along the river, there should've been a guy jumping a shark in the background. That would've been a nice touch.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST

    the show's timeline...

    by 24200124

    1) 18 months between the events of seasons 1 (ending with Teri's death) and 2 (beginning with Jack all a-grizzle and about to cut the head off of someone) <br> 2) 3 years between the events of seasons 2 (ending with President Palmer getting poisoned on the hand) and 3 (beginning with Jack's heroin addiction) <br> 3) 18 months between the events of seasons 3 (ending with Jack cutting off Chase's hand) and 4 (beginning with Jack working for the Secretary of Defense) <br> 4) 18 months between the events of seasons 4 (ending with Jack faking his death) and 5 (beginning with some motherfucker who looks like Kiefer, but he's going by "Frank Flynn" these days) <br> 5) 20 months between the events of seasons 5 (ending with Jack getting whisked off to China) and 6 (Jack coming back on a military plane and getting asked to sacrifice himself) <br> 6) 42 months after the events of Day 6 (Kiefer standing on a cliff and pondering) and "24: Redemption". <br> <br> So, technically... we've advanced 12 years and 8 months since the day that his wife died. <br> <br> I loved "24: Redemption", and I'm SO looking forward to January!! JACK IS BACK!!

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Peash Lord- Make the next 22 Hours enjoyable

    by Jugdish

    These first two hours were Terrible- usually the first couple of hours are awesome..I was terribly let down

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Did it need to be in real-time?

    by chimpjnr

    I don't know why, but I was surprised for some reason when it was in the usual real-time format. Given that they were moving away from the traditional 24 hour gimmick, I didn't see the need for it to be set over 2 hours in Jack's life. I feel that they could have made a better TV movie had they done away with it this once.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Solid tv film.

    by BigTuna

    It exceeded my expectations. I liked how the new location and lack of 24 cliches made it felt so "Fresh". Made me look forward to season 7.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    24's Timeline is pure fantasy.

    by BigTuna

    The show isn't taking place in 2017. It's like That 70's show, that was on for 7 years yet took place over 3 years or Mash having the Korean war take place over 11 years. 24 will never acknowlege what year it's taking place in.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    As a longtime 24 fan this was not up to snuff.

    by HoboCode

    Sorry, but this felt like a parody of 24 from the opening sequence. It also felt dated since it was filmed awhile ago. It also played out like cartoonishly bad right-wing propaganda. The whole spineless terd of a UN agent? Fuck that shit. What part of neutral do you not understand Jack? Give the guy a fucking break. They never missed an opportunity to make the UN guy look as dumb and cowardly as possible.<p> The acting by the supposed Africans was terrible. The lead child actor was terrible. Jack's voice didn't rise above a whisper the entire film. Jack's friend was underdeveloped so who gave a shit when he died? How did the Colonel survive that landmine by the way? He was right on top of that guy when he lifted his foot and then he somehow shows up in the Season 7 promos, which admittedly look badass and much better than this film.<p> All and all it's good to have Jack back but this felt flat. Still look forward to the new season.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    That African Kid was FAT!

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Life must have been good down in the Congo....

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    I actually liked it and season 7 looks good

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    i liked the mini movie it felt 24ish without being too much like 24 from last season...i also like how it set up the events of season 7..but a few things<P>1.. this was not the first 2 hours of season 7, season 7 will be a full 24 hours, this episode just served as a 2 hour real time set up to the events of season 7<P>2.We don't know for sure tony is the bad guy next year, yes he clearly faked his death and is working for some of the bad guys, but that doesn't mean he's evil..for all we know he could be a double agent..and besides anyone who's watched 24 from the beggining knows the character they hype as the bad guy in episode 1 always turns out to either be good or a pawn for the real villan who is revealed episode 10 0r 11<P><P>this season looks to be a bit of a back to basics for the show..i will admit i do miss CTU but i like the scnes change to washington, lets just hope by the end jack is clear and back with CTU, season 8 would be cool to see jack not be a renegade agent like he's been since season 4

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Better than expected...

    by DarthCorleone

    After the abomination that was season 6, I quite enjoyed it and am cautiously optimistic for season 7. Yes, it was ridiculously predictable (the trailers tipped the entire plot from A to Z), but the action was solid and there were several nice moments of characteristic Jack panache. <br><br>Additionally, I felt that 24 nihilistic edge back in play finally. I wasn't expecting to see a child gunned down (how often does that happen on a primetime network broadcast?), and after all the horrible situations into which we've seen Jack forced over the years, I really wasn't sure what would go down when he confronted that kid with the gun at the end.<br><br>Also, it brought to mind a terrifying real-world prospect. Inauguration day would be a very opportune time to hit the U.S. with something bad during the transfer of power.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST

    IndyAbbey Jones...

    by DarthCorleone

    On the contrary, I'm still waiting for Jack to actually become a true renegade agent. Yes, he reliably goes outside the rules each and every season in order to get the job done, but without fail he is always welcomed back into the fold as a hero within a few hours with an all-is-forgiven, ends-justify-the-means response.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    loved it.

    by coachaaron

    no stupid sub-plots, beautiful african backgrounds, jack's knife to the heart... what's not to love? jack was again torn between his personal life and the right thing to do, that is 24. i freakin' loved it, nothing jumped up and shocked me, but this set up was pretty solid.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    the timeline... and other things

    by 24200124

    Yes, the timeline is fantasy. However, without specifying a year in which the show "starts", the creators have outlined how long it has been between seasons. But even if the show's fictional timeline had started in 2001, they'd only be up to 2013 or 2014. <br> I am so very glad we didn't see any stupid "the terrorist is Jack's brother" plots or family links. Also, isn't it common knowledge that a show is jumping the shark if Rena Sofer gets cast on it?! As someone who hated hated HATED (I can't stress that enough) season 6 after the first four episodes, last night's telefilm was a very welcome addition to the "24" mythos.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    It was fine

    by richievanderlow

    It was a decent episode, I don't get all the hate for it, but I do get if you're a 24 fan, you'll most likely like it.. if not, then you won't. Big deal. Glad to have something of the show back on TV.. even if its only temporary.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

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  • Nov. 24, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    OH

    by richievanderlow

    And I loved how once the kids were in a bunker, that Jack single handedly started pulling out all these explosives out of his bag of tricks. Classic Jack and that's what made me feel that in whatever form it may manifest itself.. Jack is back to single handedly saving the world. Life is good. Hopefully he'll come back to America and single handedly save the economy.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    I'm OPTIMISTIC AGAIN...

    by echobase

    Roll on season 7

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    @Mr.E and LoganX . . .

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20217406,00.html These are Obama's answers to EW's pop culture interview. Jeff Bridges in the Contender was Obama's answer.

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 5:40 p.m. CST

    I loved their portrayal of the UN

    by Cotton McKnight

    That peacekeeper was a little rat. I loved Jack's line- hide in the shelter with all of the other children. The good news is, it looks like that guy is going down bauer style next year. I can't wait!

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 7:18 p.m. CST

    A craptacular start for 24!

    by Damien Chowder

    I loved Season 1-3 and liked 4 but anything after is silly. This Redemption episode was boring and predictable. Though I will watch it because I've been watching it since day one... Just like Smallville which has turned to utter garbage. Same goes for Heroes...

  • Nov. 24, 2008, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Redemption sucked

    by BeerEngineer

    But I've been watching since Day 1, and though I still believe Season 1 was by far the best season, I watch, because if they did it before, I firmly believe they can make it great again.

  • Nov. 25, 2008, 7:51 a.m. CST

    I only saw a little of this..

    by emeraldboy

    last night. and when jon voight turned up. off went my tv.

  • Nov. 25, 2008, 7:59 a.m. CST

    I dont like jon voight...

    by emeraldboy

    Ever since he came as a right wing republican and maybe he always. he is a horrible person by all accounts. very manipulative. which is why both of children are so fucked up.and they blame him. but and this big but Angelina is herself well practiced in the act of manipulation. which is why many feel her lady madonna act. is all aload of pr bs. if the fight between Jenniffer, brad and Angie. there was only going to be one winner. Angelina Jolie voight. As for Jon voight he was really rude to a channel news reporter who was covering the election for channel 4. sarah smith. really obnoxious. he was.

  • Nov. 25, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Here is a great idea...

    by emeraldboy

    WHy dont the makers of 24 hire donald sutherland as a villain. As an evironmentalist gone bad. Sutherland is a great actor and really cool guy and a legend.

  • Nov. 25, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

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  • Nov. 25, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

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    by Killaarmy

    The Jack Bauer I know would have jumped out of the helicopter!

  • Nov. 25, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Nice edit job

    by therealbigern

    Did anyone notice the camera man in the jungle right after the helicopter chased them in. I've never seen that big of a mistake before.

  • to his other Presidential portrayal: "The missiles are flying. Hallelujah"

  • Nov. 26, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    24:The movie was acceptable

    by JimmyPasta

    Nothing great....but still had it's merit's.I liked the part where that friend of the president's son comes home to find a "darksuit" looking at his computer files. Jack as Mother Teresa was kind of dumb,but was an acceptable jumping on point for the new season.

  • Nov. 26, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

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  • Are you fucking kidding me USA today? Really, its better then Rambo? Fucking hate critics.

  • Nov. 30, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

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    by Virdon

    The UN worker being shown as a liberal french pussy was the best part of the show because it was true. We are about to find out the hard way that you can't play patty cake with the bad guys. If only Jack was real and Nobama wasn't. :{

  • Nov. 30, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST

    S6 destroyed my enthusiasm so much...

    by chromedome

    ...and the trailers for this gave away so much, that when my DVR was nearly maxed out and I had to delete something un-viewed, 24 Redemption was it.<p>I'll still give S7 a chance, but it better be a return to the spectacular, breathtaking thrill ride that was Season 1, or I will walk away into the sunset with my own Jack Sack.

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