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By Admiral Cain’s Treadmill!! Next Month’s Webisodes To Reveal Shocking BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Secrets!!

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From one of our most reliable sources ever:
The new Battlestar Galactica webisodes "The Face of the Enemy" start going on line next month. Two recurring male characters are revealed to be gay.
One hears the first webisode was shown at some sort of Producers Guild event or something. Full-on making out was apparently part of the fun! Who are the recurring males? Gaeta, whose very name has “gay” in it, never seemed too interested in the girls – but perhaps that’s too obvious? My money’s on Tigh and Tyrol. Remember how sore Tigh got when he found out the chief was secretly boning Boomer? The series' final 10 episodes launch on SciFi Jan. 16. UPDATE!! Galactica Sitrep reveals the happy couple is comprised of Lt. Gaeta and Lt. Hoshi, the former Pegasus communications officer. Sorry, all you Tigh/Tyrol shippers!

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  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:01 a.m. CST

    My money's on Lee and Hot Dog

    by SickPuppy

    Think that's Olmos' kid's character's name.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Great shades of Torchwood!

    by Aloy

    How contemporary of Galactica.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:02 a.m. CST

    So, instead of Gay-dar do they use Gay-dis?

    by SickPuppy

    if you don't get it, why are you here in a BG talkback?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Gaeta and Baltar

    by Fatboy Roberts

    One is sexually flexible, the other knows what he likes definitively

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Baltar's not recurring.

    by Hercules

    He's regular.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Good to know he stays fibrous

    by Fatboy Roberts

    Baltar is indeed, regular. Well, knowing that Baltar is out--I'm gonna say Gaeta and...Nagurski. We catch him "Going to his bunk" after seeing Lee do a shitload of pushups.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Perhaps the Final Cylon is gay?

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    That's progress for you, I guess: Most of us don't give a crap which character is gay on this show -- we just want to know who the Final Cylon is already!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Of course!

    by Fatboy Roberts

    It's Hoshi. The Pegasus' Gaeta is just as gay as Galactica's Gaeta. Zarek is indeed a possibility, and is my pick for the 5th.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:25 a.m. CST

    And the final (5th) Cylon is...

    by DishyDish

    Galactica itself! Now go to SLEEP.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:31 a.m. CST


    by ElPaw

    he has a cat...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:43 a.m. CST

    The vice president convict guy

    by Boba Fat

    Can't remember his name and the nearly lost a leg guy. Maybe I need to refresh my memory of character names before the final season?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:49 a.m. CST

    No-one Mention's Doc Cottle

    by NZGUY

    Could he be (a) A Gay Character or (B) A Cylon (My money is on B)

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:04 a.m. CST

    Well we know Gaeta is big time gay, but the other

    by Cash907

    could be anyone. Lampkin maybe?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:07 a.m. CST

    You're right, Cottle does reek of old Queen bitchiness

    by Cash907

    but he's so damn entertaining, who gives a crap either way. Is there really a point in discussing the sexuality of these characters anyway?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:24 a.m. CST

    I bet it's a couple of the male Cylons:

    by newc0253

    think about it: a basestar full of naked Boomers? No 6 always with the sexy dresses? The female cylons are trying their very best but at least two of the male cylons are batting for the other team...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:27 a.m. CST

    I think it is.....

    by medicinaluser

    Hotdog and his wingman Redwing just those names set my gaydis of with multiple contacts.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:30 a.m. CST

    What a joke.

    by Lord John Whorfin

    Seriously, this is what happens when you hire Enterprise writers. Just like pretty much everything that happened last season, another layer of artificiality that adds nothing to the story. "Started hearing Bob Dylan" is the new "jumped the shark."

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:37 a.m. CST

    All new low for this show.

    by V'Shael

    This is what gets your juices flowing about this show? They'll reveal two gay characters in a webisode? <p> Search your feelings people! Is there any part of you that still remembers what this show was like in Season 1? And early Season 2? <p> Can't you see how far you've fallen? <p> If the you then, who'd just seen Adama get shot by Boomer, could see the you now, getting your knickers in a twist over the outing of two gay fictional characters in a webisode, don't you think the old you would feel ashamed? Embarrassed?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST

    For Real?

    by jebuslovesyou666

    Do we really need this? Did they sit down and actually think this is what the show is missing. I'm sooo sick of how television and Hollywood keep ramming it down our throats. ( No pun intended)Enough already!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:50 a.m. CST

    And the point of this is...what again?

    by Big Dumb Ape

    I mean, Whatever. Frankly, I don't get the reason for introducing this as a plot element THIS late in the game. Cash907 basically nailed it when he said in a post above: "Is there really a POINT in discussing the sexuality of these characters anyway?" And that's really what it comes down to. If their gayness is going to have some sort of MAJOR impact on the resolution of the series and its overall storyline that's one thing. Otherwise given the show's falling ratings and forthcoming cancellation and conclusion, it just feels like a cheap plot ploy that got tossed in to make the show politically correct or worst of all, to generate some quick media attention -- or even a media debate if the characters are actually going to be seen "full-out making out" as this article notes -- all in an effort to temporarily prop up the ratings for the last season.<p>I mean seriously, why are they bringing up their sexuality this late in the game? If it was such a character defining thing for these mysterious "two recurring characters", then why wasn't it introduced as a plot point earlier on? I guess we'll have to wait and see, but it already sounds like they're reaching a little bit as they wrap things up. It just reminds me of when J.K. Rowling decided that she just had to be politically correct, so she suddenly announced to all the world that Dumbledore was actually gay -- which of course was never mentioned IN any of the books, and of course she only decided to announce it AFTER they were all done and had been sold, when she had nothing to lose by announcing things. Much like with BATTLESTAR now being cancelled, where they have nothing to lose by doing certain things so long as it will generate media attention, good or bad, and thus help the ratings.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:58 a.m. CST

    It's the Centurions...all Centurions are gay...

    by BurnHollywood

    Oh, I mean those bad boys try to come off all dead butch and hetero, but girlfriend...they're FLA-A-A-A-A-MING.<p> The tinsel-colored chrome plating was a dead giveway.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:59 a.m. CST

    To clarify:

    by Lord John Whorfin

    I'm not like jebuslovesyou66 who has some kind of beef with homosexuals and how they express their values. I just think this smacks of sensationalism and doesn't really add anything to this already over-melodramatic television show, especially since the show is heading for its conclusion and doesn't need to add some ridiculous soap opera mainstay this late in the game. And Dumbledore being gay is just a detail, it didn't have anything to do with the narrative and had no point being explicated in the text, but fits nonetheless. Dumbledore wasn't going to say "I'm gay, Harry," despite the fact the kids in these books use the word "berk," which is slang for "cunt."

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Its a Webisode

    by medicinaluser

    To the above homophobes relax not like your enjoyment of the final actual episodes will be destroyed in any way shape or form. <BR><BR> I also think this may be to gauge public opinion as Ron Moore's new show is supposed to have an openly gay couple in it.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Starbuck and Apollo already made out

    by Xiphos_2

    That's two dudes right there.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:35 a.m. CST

    Fucking Prop 8 supporters

    by drturing

    Listen, I know we should all go back to having 7 wives or some shit in your book, but in the BSG world reality is reflected in how human beings behave, and newsflash for you: there have always been and always will be gay people involved in every situation ever. There were gay dudes who fought in WWII, gay dudes who helped take down mastodons, gay dudes in NASA. I knew a gay Air Force dude... He said there were tons of down low fags in the armed forces.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:47 a.m. CST

    Why is it?

    by jebuslovesyou666

    That we have to be homophobes, when we're just discussing how lame trivial it is to have to 2 characters be gay. You can call me whatever you like, and keep in mind I don't really care if someone is gay or not, but I do however find it absolutely vile to watch two guys making out. Its GAY, I'm not gay, So I do not find it interesting in the least to have gay characters in my favorite show. I think Ron Moore is a closet homosexual for even writing this into his show. Why would a straight man want anything to do with this? Ron Moore and that beard and hair, we should have seen this coming.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:03 a.m. CST

    why is it

    by drturing

    then that gay audience members should have to see everyone else frakking all the time? who gives a fuck? i'm not gay, so seeing gay shit does absolutely nothing for me, so i could care less. in fact, i can actually watch gay porn with nine guys blowing eight guys and i remain totally limp, so i guess i figured out what i am. in fact, every straight dude should watch some gay porn, because all of a sudden you realize how fucking ridiculous all porn is when you remove the context of being turned on by it. it looks hilarious!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:19 a.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    But the only gayness I'm interested in seeing is Boomer and Six in full on lesbo action. Hell, throw Xena in for good measure. Gaeta and some other dude? Move along please.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:24 a.m. CST

    dude, i want to see boomer being gay with boomer

    by drturing

    see, that on the other hand, would be gayness that would get a freaky rise out of me.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:53 a.m. CST

    Its Gaeta (natch) and the Marine guy

    by blindambition238

    I think- but there is a gag reel from one season where Gaeta was seriously hitting on him (youtube it), so why not? <p> That's all the info they gave u though Herc? I hope there's more to it then that cause if its just a bunch of websodes of tigh running around screaming whose "the frakkin fag?!" It would be unbelievable retarded...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:03 a.m. CST

    As Homer Simpson said...

    by Pageiv

    "I like my beer cold, TV loud, and homosexuals fllllaaaaaaaaaaming!" Really, though, with the human race near dead wouldn't they impose some law banning such things?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:10 a.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    George Takei will make his triumphant return to space! Oooooh myyyyy!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Big Dumb Ape - much like his namesake...

    by irishraidersfan

    Will someone please point out to this tool that the show wasn't canceled, but reached its conclusion? I mean, really, if it's ending due to cancellation, can he find somewhere to back this up?!?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:55 a.m. CST

    This show is done

    by Dazzler69

    I just want to get this over with and move on. They jumped the shark when they went to New Caprica.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:59 a.m. CST

    drturing watches gay porn

    by ikkyu

    to prove to himself that he's not gay.<p>

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST

    not that there's anything wrong with that

    by ikkyu

    i mean, some of my best friends are gay.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST

    and having gay friends doesn't make ME gay

    by ikkyu


  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST

    does it?

    by ikkyu

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:02 a.m. CST

    'cos, like, i'm not, or anything

    by ikkyu

    i think...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:03 a.m. CST

    um - could i borrow one of your dvds?

    by ikkyu

    for educational purposes.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:03 a.m. CST

    just to check...

    by ikkyu

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:04 a.m. CST

    i had a friend who was a major Queen fan as a kid

    by ikkyu

    he got REALLY pissed when we tried to tell him that Freddie Mercury was gay.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:07 a.m. CST

    "um, dude? they're called QUEEN."

    by ikkyu


  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:09 a.m. CST


    by ikkyu

    i'll stop.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:12 a.m. CST

    The Aaron Cylon and the Simon Cylon are gay...

    by expert_40

    ... come on, those two dudes are so gay even my butt hurts watching them on screen.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Captain Kelly and Gaeta

    by Rumpel Tumskin

    After trying to blow up people, Gaeta would go visit Kelly in the brig for some thru the bars suckage

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Where is the Big Pink Dildo Gay Rights ship of the fleet?

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Always wondered about the Gay Rights ship that doesn't exist. <p> Fuck we all know it is Tighe and Bill, first wife leaves Bill suggested affair with a dying woman. How much more homo can you get? <p> Tighe always left his wife behind. <p> Real life I assume Chief is gayest of the gay.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Freddie Mercury big queer.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Everyone knows that. <p> More important is the guitarist who in now a Doctor of astrophysics.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST

    When is the big Lesbian reveal?

    by EvilWizardGlick

    We all want it. <p> I thought it was Cat and Starbuck.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Speaking of Admiral Cain...

    by photoboy

    Did anyone notice Michelle Forbes turned up naked in a street on True Blood? You don't really get to see anything but considering how much nudity there is on the show we might get lucky. Of course I'd have preferred to see her naked back when she was on TNG, but something is better than nothing...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:37 a.m. CST

    I hate this webisode crap...

    by BizarroJerry

    If you don't include it in your television series, it shouldn't be of any importance. I shouldn't have to go poking around some other medium to get the whole story. Not to mention the tons of fans who won't even hear about them.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Not as bad as Serena on L&O

    by chrth

    But still pretty lame. As a fervent supporter of gay rights, it pisses me off no end when properties try to act progressive but look even worse by burying it. Webisode? Really? That's your medium for having male gay characters? Cowards. How about having the cojones to do it during an actual episode?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    ikkyu a movie recommendation

    by drturing

    300. Lots of thrusting with large pointy sticks penetrating amazing abs.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Incidentally, Freddie Mercury *wasn't* gay...

    by irishraidersfan

    ... he was bisexual.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Except 'bisexual' was late 80s-early 90s codespeak for

    by chrth

    'gay but not wanting to fully admit because it'd hurt my marketability'. Remember when Elton John was 'bisexual'?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Quote: "They jumped the shark when they went to New Caprica."<P>WRONG! The New Caprica storyline featured some of the best stuff that's ever been on TV; especially in the realm of sci-fi.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Could it be Seelix?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    She is definitely sexy enough to swing for both teams...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    A reveal of two gay characters...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...will have little impact on the show proper. This is webisode material probably designed to give a little more depth to a couple of recurring characters before the show takes its final bow. At this point, I seriously doubt it will have any major plot implications. So IMHO, some of the more venomous posts about this are a little over the top here, fellas.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Why Are U Assuming Tey're Guys

    by Alen Smithee

    My money's on Six and the revived corpse of Haliey

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    What's the point of that though?

    by TheWaqman

    I'd rather the webisodes focus on something plot related rather than just some random shit like this. After all we've had to wait for so long for the final episodes. I have no problem with any of the characters being gay, but really it serves no purpose to the plot.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    We're assuming they're guys, because we read the article

    by V'Shael


  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST

    This will appeal to fans...

    by MisterE

    ...of the new Star Trek trailer.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:04 a.m. CST

    we already know Admiral Cain is gay

    by spacechampion

    but I don't remember seeing her cold dead body. She is the Final Cylon!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Why couldn't be Dualla and any other hot chick?

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    It had to be two guys?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    This show is great....

    by TheWaqman

    the only slump it ever had were some of the later episodes of Season 3 (mostly the ones dealing with Baltar and the Cylons, oh shut the fuck up already) but the first half of season 3 coupled with the final episodes of season 3 were fucking great! And season 4 has been fantastic (save for that crappy episode where Gaeta is singing). So I'm still interested, but Sci-Fi channel are a bunch of twats. With the delays and all.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:34 a.m. CST

    I would totally bang Lucy Lawless....

    by TheWaqman

    she appears to be hotter when she got older and wasn't Xena to me.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    So lame...

    by Hairy Nutsack

    For one thing, the writers of BSG have always had a problem writing anything even remotely related to romance or sexuality. Most of the time the romance on this show has felt very forced and the actors have appeared quie uncomfortable doing the scenes. For example, every scene that even hints at Cain and Gina's romance is just plain awkwardly written and acted (not to mention retconned into Razor), and how about Lee and Kara? Awkward as hell. Even worse is Boomer's declaration that a hybrid baby can only be born through love. Sheesh, talk about corny and awkward.<p> So now we get to watch two dudes act through a gay love scene written by the people who can't even get straight romance right? Worse yet, this is so obvioulsy shoe-horned in for no other reason than PC bullshit, so expect more weirdness like "Gee Chief, I love you even more now that you've bashed my face in!!!" WHEEEE!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Please let it be Seelix

    by Xiphos_2

    That would make her hotter then she already is. Have her get it on with Racetrack.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST


    by bythehairofsanjaya

    Gays. They're everywhere

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    SickPuppy wins the Talkback

    by Squashua

    Best Response Evar, '08!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Hey we fucking well exist okay?

    by Smashing

    Tolerance is not enough for us anymore, we want to be shown as full characters in TV shows too, not just as camp window dressing, if any show can pull of a gay male character well then BSG is the one to do it.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:13 p.m. CST

    What is PC bullshit exactly?

    by Smashing

    Is it like in the 60's when people claimed Uhura was there only to further some paranoid agenda?, when the real truth she was there was because the world was changing, as it tends to do.<P>People who claim to be science fiction fans yet remain rude, closed minded and intolerant confuse me, what is the appeal of watching shows that show the world as it could be if you do not want it to be that way in the first place?, reading people say they don't care about de gays but also find the thought of us sickening is pretty harsh you know?, bah I got mushy, screw y'all!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Hairy Nutsack!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Good to see you on the boards! It's been quite awhile...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Seelix + Racetrack = Excellent call, sir.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Its hotdog and crashdown

    by Xiphos_2

    Look at thier nicknames. Not exactly subtle.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:40 p.m. CST


    by rassmguy

    The cast has been saying for a couple of years now, in interviews, that they believe Gaeta is gay. It's not a big surprise. According to one of them--I forget who, but it might have been Katie Sackett--the reason Gaeta tried to kill Baltar back in the cell, after Baltar whispered something in his ear, was that Baltar told him he knew Gaeta was gay, and that he was going to out him. I guess we'll see if that's what ultimately happens.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    BSG: BiSexual Robosexuals from the Future

    by codefool

    Yes BSG is more and more about bisexual robots from the future. Sounds more like a late nite Cinemax movie than SciFi channel show.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST


    by Le Vicious Fishus

    So much repressed sexual consternation and rage in this TB. Sorry to break it to you, fellas, but gay people exist in the real world. And don't pull that lame "why do they have to get into their sexuality in the show" business. Using that logic, you'd never see a scene between a man and a woman who were attracted to each other.<BR><BR>Some people are gay in real life. Get over it. It's no big deal.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    It isn't that people are miffed at characters being gay

    by sonic3305

    It's that it's kind of out of place in BSG, isn't it? It isn't the kind of show that seems like it would "reveal" characters to be gay as a dramatic whatever.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Adama skull fucks Colonel Tigh right in da eye.

    by alucardvsdracula

    Then moves down to his shit box as he goes all Brokeback on his ass.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Actually you know what would be reeeel ghey and goood...

    by alucardvsdracula

    The two Apollo's getting it on. Richard Hatch waving a huge cylon style dildo (with flashing red eye) in the direction of the new young Apollo. "Come and get it bitch, I'm gonna Frack you reeel good boy". Pretty obvious that'll happen really.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    What is PC bullshit?

    by Hairy Nutsack

    PC bullshit would be sending out a press release about sci-fi webisodes and the only thing the press release tells us is that there will be gay men kissing on BSG.<p> Anyone remember what last year's webisode press release was about? Something about Husker, the first Cylon war, plot developments...but yeah, there's no PC bullshit this year, none at all. PUH-LEEZ.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    which one is Lt. Hoshi

    by eric haislar

    I can't picture him at all.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    SIX / XENA

    by Mullah Omar

    Didn't that already happen? <br> <br> If not, it's never too late to start.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST



    ....can't we all just get along? *sniff*

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Can everybody so upset about this just CALM DOWN!

    by Sacredfun

    First of all, Ron Moore has said in the past in interviews that he felt the lack of gay characters was a flaw of the show. Obviously he wants the fleet to be a microcosm of life - which does include gay people. So, yes, they are including this now late in the game, but perhaps it is not just a stunt but an acknowledgment to the gay community (who do watch this show by the way) that they are not forgotten. And I for one hope the scene in question is something low key and sweet that just shows two people who have found each other amidst all the horrible drama that they are a part of in BSG. Sure it may not advance the final plot, but (like so many great episodes on BSG) it shows another parallel dynamic that's going on that is not as noticeable, but is still valid. And it DOES add something to the complex picture they have created with this show. If we can have humans and Cylons working together to find Earth, I think we can allow two men to find some happiness together. So chill out. And if you really have a problem with it, just don't watch the webisodes.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Silly little homophobes lol

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    This board is full of them. <p> Some people are gay. Get over it.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST


    by Diagnostic

    The straight people have taken their foot off of the gay people's throat.<br> Justice.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Who cares?!?!?!

    by hyprkc

    First of all, I am a right-winger. I am have far more conservative view points than liberal. Yet, I still frequent this website, go figure... So it will be revealed that Galactica has a couple of dudes amoung the crew....who cares? Really. Big Frackn' Deal. If it is relevant to the story line, fine. Okay. If it is a cheap ploy to garner higher ratings, that's just lame. Gay people are everywhere, they always have been and always will be. Should we be surprised that a gay couple turns up on Galactica, I think not. Personally, if a Cylon were about to dust me, I wouldn't give two squirts of pi$$ about the sexuality of the person who might be in a position to save me. I have gay friends and clients. I have no problem with them. We have a lot in common, just not our sexual preferences. I still respect them though, otherwise, we wouldn't be friends. They do not try to "indoctrinate" me, nor I them. Quite simply put, I am not threatened by them. I am certainly not threatened by a couple of homosexuals showing up on Galactica. I think it would be a disservice to the fans though, if the underlying "Gay" plot were to detract from the overall focus of the story. My wife and I enjoyed "Will and Grace". That show as very funny. Sexuality was the core of that show. We knew what to expect when we tuned in. Let's face it, I tune in to Battlestar Galactica to see space ships, space battles and space $hit getting blown up, not to see a couple of space gays makin' out when they should be kicking Cylon ass! The soap-opera stuff I could do without. I will reserve judgement until I actually see how the topic fits into the context of the last season. Who knows, maybe it will work out fine. To all those that feel threatened by homosexuals, let me say this, they aren't going away anytime soon. Respect them, and they will respect you. You won't turn gay simply befriending a homosexual, I haven't.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    here's an idea

    by I87D

    watch the webisode first, THEN complain if you don't like it.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    So it is like when Kirk and Uhura kiss was used to show what the

    by Smashing

    People used to get upset over black folks sitting next to them on the bus too, people, to be fair are pretty dumb en mass.<P>The press release said there would be kissing?, I thought it said gay characters, hubba hubba I hope it is Hotdog and Lee, they frak nightly in my head.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Show what the show was about, basically to advertise it.

    by Smashing

    Silly Aicn subject boxes that let you type text that wont show, how lame is that?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:52 p.m. CST

    fuck gay male characters

    by punto

    they need to add some female gay characters! (who are not fucking dead)

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST

    You wanna fuck the gay male characters?

    by Smashing

    That makes you at the least bi. Hi Lindsay.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:04 p.m. CST

    39,673 Survivors in the fleet (as of last count)

    by ElPaw

    So thats roughly 19,836 men, 1,883 of whom are gay. That's one hell of an orgy.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST


    by raw_bean

    you might have only been watching for the space battles, but the show has always featured and explored so called 'soap opera' elements of sex, romance and human (or pseudo-human) relationships in testing times very prominently, so I don't see how it could be a disservice to the fans to continue that.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Would It Be Too Much To Ask

    by Antimaster

    to have a show be gay-free? I am absolutely disgustingly sick to death of "where are the gay characters?" BS from the peanut gallery. It would be so refreshing to see a TV show say "we don't need to bow down to you, gaybots, our show is fagless!" Seriously, no one wants or cares!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    I was really hoping it was Tigh/Tyrol

    by buffywrestling

    just so I could read the fanfic.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST


    by hyprkc

    You're right. I do love the space battles though, when they occur, they are spectacular! I would prefer more of that. For a television show, the effects are amazing. Better than those of some movies in my humble opinion. I miss the Pegasus and Admiral Cain, she was one bad-a$$ leader!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Gaybots, homos in disguise?

    by Smashing

    What up breeder, you seem nice.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    The 5th & Final Cylon is...

    by Heckles

    ...the gay webisode inside all of us.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    there should be as many gay characters in a show as there are in

    by smudgewhat

    which is that there are many, and it's not a big fucking deal.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    that was supposed to say...

    by smudgewhat

    'there should be as many gay characters in a show as there are in real life'

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Star Trek guilt?

    by Anakin Whoopass

    Is this pointless gay reveal happening because of lingering guilt among the ex-Trek writers that they or Paramount never had the balls to have undisguised gayness on 80s-90s Star Trek? The only way this is worth it for BSG is if they're going to show a bad character who's more bigoted against gays than Cylons, to sort of comment on how the US military kicks out translators they need for antiterrorism, just because they're gay.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Antimaster, WHY BOTHER?

    by Player 1

    ...with a statement like that. The fact is that someone you know is probably gay, they just haven't told you, maybe because your head is stuck far up your arse. TV like this should reflect who we are. What if I said... they shouldn't include people with red hair? RED HAIR IS NOT A CHOICE. Cue the red-hair bigots...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:42 p.m. CST


    by alice 13

    or andrew.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Of course it's Gaeta.

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    He sings like a b!tch anyway.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST

    yes, ok, we get it

    by ikkyu

    everybody here is NOT HOMOPHOBIC. no, not at all. some of our best friends are gay. we have NO PROBLEM with it, not at all. because we're all, like, totally comfortable with our owm sexuality. and so are our wives.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    homophobia is this year's little miss racism.

    by ikkyu

    gay people have such rhythm. and they're great athletes. they're so cool, you know? heck, i'd vote for one.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Why does it have to be homophobia?

    by Hairy Nutsack

    It bothers me because it's an obvious stunt to try and grab headlines and ratings. This is exactly the same as stunt casting or the lead getting pregnant and/or married when ratings are down. It smacks of desparation.<p> Seriouly think about the previous webisode announcements, the first was about a insurgent/resistance movement on New Caprica, the second was about Husker and the First War, and now we get Lt. Gaeta and Lt. Hoshi are gonna be macking on each other? Out of what effed up left field did this come from?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:03 p.m. CST

    And in other shocking news, Liberace is gay.

    by Paul T. Ryan

    No, really!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Liberace is Gay?

    by Xiphos_2

    Next thing you know you'll tell me Rock Hudson isn't straight.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Penultimate season of LOST and a finale of BSG!!!

    by zooch

    January is looking pretty good TV wise.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Gaeta didn't ask for Gay Porn

    by dumbpeoplesuck

    Way to screw up continuity to appeal to the gay masses.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:20 p.m. CST

    big frickin deal

    by Maniaq

    couple of guys snog on BSG... I got out of bed for THIS? oh wait, I'm still in bed - nevermind

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Glad its only webisodes

    by Alpha Trion

    because at this late in the game, who cares about gaeta. he had his moment with the loss of his leg. The last of the t.v. episodes have a lot of loose ends to tie up if theyre going to end this show proper.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:01 p.m. CST

    The Fifth and Final Cylon is...

    by BurnHollywood

    ...Abraham Lincoln.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 1:42 a.m. CST

    who gives a shit


    who gives a fuck. How the fuck will this impact on the overall story arc ? Why does everything have to go fag these days ?

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 6:36 a.m. CST

    IrishRaidersFan, relax already!

    by Big Dumb Ape

    In replying to my post, you said: "Will someone please point out to this tool that the show wasn't canceled, but reached its conclusion? I mean, really, if it's ending due to cancellation, can he find somewhere to back this up?!?<p>Okay, fine, if it will make me less of a "tool" then the show wasn't technically cancelled, it's "reaching its conclusion." There, does a fucking change of words make you feel better now? Will you be able to hold your teddy bear tonight and go to sleep peacefully? And does a change in words in any way, shape, or form change the fact that the series is ending? For crying out loud, the only reason I said cancelled is because Sci-Fi was considering axing the show at one point since its ratings have been dropping consistently. So, fine, they all reached an agreement behind the scenes on a timeline for wrapping it up, which basically means in Hollywood terms it was a backroom negotiated cancellation to save face all around. But hey, it's all good -- now you can walk around in a Zen-like state knowing that BSG is "reaching its conclusion."<p>For fuck's sake, some people need to SERIOUSLY de-stress about things.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST

    And stop the homophone shit -- BOTH sides

    by Big Dumb Ape

    I have no problem with gays. I have good, close friends who are gay -- not that I should need to define myself or my levels of social tolerance by even saying that. I hate that fucking crap. The bottom line is that gays exist, we all know some (be it friends, family, or whoever) so let's try to be a little more tolerant in life, shall we? There's nothing wrong with showing some respect towards a fellow human being.<p>On the other hand, in terms of this new plotline for BSG, I agree with many of the posts here and stand by what I said myself earlier. This is not about being anti-gay or being a homophobe, so people on the other end of things should stop flinging around those names and labels and those accusations TOO. That's utter bullshit as well. There's a perfectly legitimate argument behind simply saying "WTF? Where did this storyline come from?" this late in the show and with such a limited amount of time left to spotlight certain things or to wrap up certain plot elements.<p>In simple terms, here's the way I see it: with the limited time left -- even when it comes to what you could detail in a webisode off to the side -- what's more important to you: finding out Gaeta is gay or maybe answering some fucking questions that the show has yet to address this far in? Seriously, if you had to draw up a list of the things you'd like to see in the final set of episodes before the show goes off the air -- even in some webisodes off to the side -- how many of you REALLY had "I want to find out if Gaeta is gay" at the top of your list? Yeah, that's what I thought...

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    I think the storyline came from showing all aspects of humanity.

    by Smashing

    WTF BDA are you talking about?, how are gay people in some way wrong for fighting for equality and screen time?, I can't wait to hear your reply.<P> How is a majority heterosexual reaction like the one we see here justifiable?

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Nutsack your a moron.

    by Smashing

    How is this badly relieved news an attempt to grab publicity?<P>Here is another way of looking at it, the show is ending, the people writing it want to show gay kind too so we get squeezed in some webisode so they can feel like they included everyone whilst in reality we are again consigned to half usage, did you bleat about lesbianism being used to further the show?, of course you never?, then fuck off spreading hate speech disguised as reasonable opinion, its transparent and has no place in 2008.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Yes in fact I did Smashing....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    I did "bleat" about the lesbianism when Razor aired, and also right here in this TalkBack in my first post. I "bleated" about it because it was poorly written, awkwardly acted, and obviously retconned.<p> Why is it that we can't have a reasonable discussion without some asshole shouting "hate speech" and homophobia? In what way is me calling this a "stunt" in any way homophobic or hateful? I'd say the same thing if they announced Dirk Benedict was showing up in the webisodes as Kara's Dad. A stunt is a stunt, and all stunts smell like desparation.<p> As BDA said, this is the important story/issue they need to tackle this close to the end with limited screen time left?

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Is there celery involved?

    by thistle23

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Without having read the above comments

    by nervous twitch

    I'm comming in late to the game here so bare with me, but i thought it was rather obvious that the first gay couple on Galactica were Gaeta and Hoshi considering the way that they were shot during their hug when the Galalctica found Earth. Both actors played it noticably differently to everybody else.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Limited time left?

    by Sacredfun

    Aren't there about 10 to 12 full episodes still coming? A lot can be covered in that time. And this is still a webisode we're talking about. And we don't even know for sure how much of it will even be about Gaeta and Hoshi. I doubt it will be a ten minute make out fest lit by candlelight. I don't think the limited time argument holds water when this really will be just a blip that might have a thread that continues here and there later on. Yes it's tacked on, perhaps. But I don't think it has come out of nowhere. Gaeta certainly hasn't been actively romantic with anyone before. And I still think the point is to show humanity as a complete picture, and that's all. I know it has come late, but I still think it's an interesting idea - especially if they discuss what it is like to be gay in this society (and a diminished one at that). And on a personal note to dibarahman and others who choose to use the word "fag" - rethink your choice. It is an offensive word that has no place in polite discourse. If you want to say a show has "gone gay" then say that. There's just no need for the "f" word.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Read enough now

    by nervous twitch

    Fuck it. Season 3 was horrendous, season 4 ignored what should have been the main thrust of the series at that point (the four). I stopped watching Buffy when Espenson took over and yet i want to see how this ends. Despite the latent racism and/or misogyny and lack of balls/ovaries i will continue to watch the series until the finale. I'm so weak.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 6:05 p.m. CST

    I thought Cain and Six's romance added to the betrayal.

    by Smashing

    It also helped explain why Pegasuses C.O was so damn hard on her.<P>By definition of being added later of course it is a ret-con but it felt like it was an idea they had before they wrote season 2, maybe they just held it over to dvd to avoid upsetting people who dislike gays?<P>I don't mean to accuse you of hate speech, more just lazy thinking when it comes to people different to you.<P>You obviously have some sort of issue to get so wound up, though that alone is not enough to make you a hater, just not part of the solution.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST

    I agree there Smashing....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    Cain and Gina's romance did add to the betrayal, but in light of what had just happened to humanity was it even necessary to tack it on? Gina's rage at Cain was just as easily fueled by the months of rape and torture, likewise Cain's rage at Gina, and overall unbalanced state, could have been left at just the war in general and Cain's self perceived betrayal of her own sister on Tauron. I found the sister thing more intriguing than the romance, wish they would have explored that a bit.<p> If I'm wound up it's not because Gaeta is suddenly, definitely gay, it's because I hold BSG to an extremely high standard. Pulling a stunt of any kind is more than a little Shark Jumpish.<p> And more than anything, I'd like to reitterate that I've felt from the very begiining of the show that BSG has handled romance very. very poorly. Very few of the romantic moments have felt real to me, with the VERY notable exception of Adama and Roslin, but in fairness that may have more to do with the skill of the actors rather than the skill of the writers.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    I'm still hoping it's Gaeta and the Marine dude

    by blindambition238

    The guy needs a bigger role asides from his thankless job guarding every doorway on Galactica.

  • Nov. 19, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    why does

    by ZO

    tv keep shoving gays down our throats? would it really be weird to have a military crew not having any gays in it?

  • Nov. 19, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    The anger in this Talkback is kinda sad.

    by Prespez

    "Why do gays have to crammed down our throats!" Because gay people exist. They're doctors, lawyers, and in the military. We don't know how much of these webisodes are going to be about these characters personal lives, but anyone who watches this show for the space dogfights and action should probably switch over to Clone Wars...they have a sassy teenage sidekick and no gays to speak of! BSG has always been about the characters and the revelation that two of them are gay probably wont affect who the final cylon is or change the ending of the show.

  • Nov. 19, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Please don't say that New Battlestar was "cancelled".

    by Mutant Leader

    It's like Ron said: they're ending it because HE decided it's time. Please don't hand fans a pink slip like that. . .cause I was there when it happened back in 1979 and it was sure no picnic. I also suffered like a dog during the whole B5 clusterfuck, and I was so worried I almost got a stomach ulcer. The first poster was rightly concerned and I know exactly how he feels. Please be gentle.