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UPDATED!! 'The Wait Is Over!!' Behold That New STAR TREK Trailer In Glorious QuickTime!!

Merrick here...
As promised, the previously YouTubed STAR TREK trailer that premiered this weekend can now be seen in all forms of Glorious QuickTime, including HD. Follow a pic...

I am – Hercules!!
Click here 10 a.m. PT (1 p.m. ET) Monday for the HD version. While you're waiting for that sharper look at the Enterprise shipyard? Behold he shitty YouTube bootleg version that leaked over the weekend:

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  • Nov. 15, 2008, 10:51 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 10:53 p.m. CST


    by Shadow16nh

    Awesome trailer too!

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Oh look rebellious Teen!!

    by jingle_balls

    I just cant get enough of that Teen Angst.....

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 10:56 p.m. CST


    by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.

    yeah, probably.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 10:56 p.m. CST

    what the F was that!?

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    I don't know what to think. It's like trying to be young bad ass star trek. but no kid whot hinks he is young and bad ass is going to go see a movie called star trek. effects look awesome though. fuck, wht the hell is this going to be. Buckle up...

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Very Cool

    by CrazyGnome

    3rd. WAtch it before it is gone.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Saw it at Quantum of Solace today

    by kyle051554

    BADASS. I could not be more excited for this movie.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11 p.m. CST

    didn't inspire much confedence...

    by br1947

    I hope I'm wrong but this film just does not look like Trek and this trailer didn't help any. Looks more like Andromeda, all explosions & no story. I'm predicting another Transformers, a piece of crap that made alot of money and generally pissed off everyone that cared about the original story.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11 p.m. CST


    by Brians Life


  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Like I already said...


    ... it looks pretty great, albeit Simon Pegg's "It's exciting" part!?!?

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:03 p.m. CST

    I'll be there on opening night!

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    Looks good and I'm not even the biggest Trek fan out there.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST

    the title

    by Bouncy X

    i've seen some complain about it being called Star Trek, i guess some thing it might get confused with the first movie or something. but the thing is, had they given it some sorta subtitle it would have probably been some cheesy "prequel-ish" thing...maybe even using the word rise. so its a lose-lose situation. anyway maybe its because i've never been a trekkie but that looks pretty cool.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:08 p.m. CST

    I don't know... looks too talky.

    by Chewtoy

    Needs more Ninja Sulu. Still, the effects look impressive, and it's nice to see them treating the franchise as a major release worthy of a decent budget.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:11 p.m. CST

    lets see how fast they release the trailer now...

    by tbdeinc

    the internet... bwahahahaahhaahha!!!!

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST


    by thot

    Looks great! The more I see, the more excited I am to see it. I like the overall look and vibe. Quinto's Spock is so spot-on that it's almost eerie. His voice sounds pretty good too. Can't wait to see a fuller, more complete trailer. Beam me up Scotty!!

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Star Trek desperately needs this...

    by Fah-Cue

    I've been a hardcore Trekker since the very early 70's. Every show since the end of TNG has been a boring, predictable embarassment. In fact, nearly every pure sci-fi show has been as well, except for the new Galactica (which kicks ALL versions of Star Trek's ass) and Firefly. Yes, I am a geek... but I'm not gonna lie to myself as well. Trek needs this adrenaline re-write. As holy as the trinity of the original Trek characters are to me, I desperately want a metallic re-boot... and this looks like it. Trek II, VI, and a bit of VIII understood that -- and that's why they're the best amongst fans. Now, to undo what Berman and Paramount has done in the last 20-odd years (that is: puss-i-fy and make Trek too squeaky clean and predictable) we need to break away from the clammering purists that hold onto the weaknesses of Trek moreso than the strengths. Bring it on, JJ!

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST

    why is young kirk..

    by nooneimportant

    wearing Marty's jacket from Back to the Future 2 ?

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:14 p.m. CST

    angry mccoy

    by unkempt_sock

    = awesome

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Surprised it's still there.

    by rev_skarekroe

    It's been up since this morning. Looks good to me. I'm not anal about this stuff, which means I'm exactly their target audience.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Needs to be seen on big screen

    by wash

    I wathced this on YouTube a few tines before I saw it on the big screen today. Trust me, it's way more impressive in the theater. <br><br> Nit pick all you want, but it will be really hard for this to be any worse than any tv/movie incarnation of Trek from the last 15+ years.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:19 p.m. CST

    So it's like all little kids now?

    by SmokeFilledTavern

    Totally reminds me of that BUGSY MALONE film with Scott Baio and Jodie Foster. A pint-sized Spock will appeal to the kiddies I guess.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    watched* times*

    by wash

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:22 p.m. CST

    I'm with you rev

    by LordAcoustic

    This has been up waaaaayyyyyyy toooooo long if they really didn't want it to get out.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:24 p.m. CST

    No Hetero kid actors available?

    by sott68

    otherwise looks kinda cool. kirk is a bit womanish... spock looks like that guy on heroes.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Did he say lock and load?

    by erikharrison

    James "Tiberius from Siberius" Kirk is ready to rock out with his cock out - and his cock is a giant dilithum powered motorcycle. PREEEEEOWWWW!!!!

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    I have to admit - that looked cool

    by geraldbeans

    I got chills. And I don't even like Star Trek!

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    agree that the kids look gay

    by SmokeFilledTavern

    but it seems that's how they make 'em nowadays.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Well fucking beam me up Scotty!!

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    That looks badass. I must admit looks WAY WAY better then I expected. I am pumped for this now.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    watched* times*

    by wash

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Starfleet 90210

    by Le Phantom

    Need I say any more?

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Holy Shit...

    by mrplowking

    I think I just shit out a chocolate covered Tribble. That was friggin' cool!

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:46 p.m. CST

    haters be damned. That looks fantastic.

    by Rearden


  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:47 p.m. CST

    It's what it needs to be

    by Dreamfasting

    The purist in me winced a few times and the weird camera angles scare me a little, but on the surface of the trailer, this looks exactly like the sort of reboot that Trek needs. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Looks like really, really expensive horseshit with A BIG GAY TOP

    by Wonderthump

    Like a WB series with a budget. Like a Fox series with Tori Spelling. Trek dumbering down for a mass audience is like Madonna getting her virginity back or producing yet another "music" album -- what's the point? Those teabaggers at Paramount should have commited this kind of money and effort when Shatner and crew were still in their prime and a real Star Trek movie could have been made.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:49 p.m. CST


    by Wonderthump

    Fucking title got cut off.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:56 p.m. CST

    I'm not sure what to think...

    by JustinSane

    ...the trailer seems more like "Star Wars" than "Star Trek", but I'll reserve judgement till I see it. Any time we can get more Kirk and Spock is fine by me.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 11:58 p.m. CST

    "spock looks like that guy on heroes"

    by Murraypalooza

    ...that made me laugh loud enough to wake up my cat. When Crumbles slumber is disturbed, it better be worth it and that sentence alone was worth it. :)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Saw it with Quantom... Got all goose pimply...

    by BlindOgre

    Looks like a hell of a ride... can't wait to see some adrenaline pumped into the old franchise...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:08 a.m. CST

    About had a siezure with that editing.

    by Negative Man

    <p>The few moments that pieced together a scene, the beginning chase for example, looked pretty mediocre to craptacular. The rest of the teaser (I can't call editing like that a trailer) was just fast paced SFX vomit. Terrific effects, but video games have better 30 second teasers than this that tell a story.</p><p>And really, add fangs to the actors and they could be part of the cast of TWILIGHT. Hell, put Starfleet Academy next to river side town and film episodes of KIRK'S CREEK.</p><p>Kirk as troubled youth is an easy way out writing-wise. Sure, he could have always been a womanizer, but his character would work better as a tactical thinker. Type of kid that always got into trouble because he wanted to know how things worked. Learned to pick locks just to see what was in that locked box. His overwhelming curiosity always getting the better of him. Questioning the lessons being taught by his Stafleet professors and seeing holes in the strategies they taught. Hence, him out thinking them and reprogramming the Kobayashi Maru scenario.</P><p>Who knows, maybe they'll do more than the troubled teen thing. But I doubt it. This is the same people that brought us TRANSFORMERS and CLOVERFIELD. I know I'll be flamed for this, but those were two of the worst 'big budget' movies of recent years. They both were total insults to the movie going audience, yet made tons of cash. Two movies that featured human characters who were worthless, irritating and needed to be crushed by their CGI enemies.</p><p>Whelp...if anything, Star Trek looks...well...shiny.</P>

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:09 a.m. CST

    the young kirk part in the beginning is awful.

    by dr.bulber

    wtf . loads of imagination on display there.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Star Trek 90210...

    by Bill Clay

    At least Pegg looks like he's having fun.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Somewhere Rick Berman is eating shit

    by Heckles

    And I hope he savors every last bite.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Got GYPPED here... no trailer with QUANTUM!

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    Rockville MD Regal theater didn't have it. At least not during the showing we went to. Previews ended with Will Smith's Seven Pounds. No offense, but anti-climactic as shit when you were promised Trek a la Abrams. So I'm grateful for the YouTube clip.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST

    This trailer is TITS.

    by Zarles

    For all you talking shit about it, come meet me outside so I can kick the living fuck out of you. If you're one of the little shits who sat behind me in Quantum of Solace tonight and talked through the whole goddamn thing, consider your asses kicked twice.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Best Trek I've seen since DS9

    by Heckles

    I will take that trailer over all the shithole seasons of Voyager and Enterprise put together.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:24 a.m. CST

    I just came a little

    by cutest_of_borg

    Looks great - I don't get the negativity about the opening scene. I imagine some smart-ass will attempt to explain why the scene doesn't "work" - I just hope the motherfucker isn't sitting near me next May in the theater.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Baby Kirk SUCKS!!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    I wanna drop kick him off that cliff, but it isn't hard to imagine him growing up to be The Shat. He's that much of an obnoxious, whiny little twat. Other than that, the trailer looks good. Looking forward to seeing Spock, Bones and Scotty's new incarnations. :)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST

    I bitch about everything

    by drturing

    but admit i'll be there opening night to watch Michael Bay's Star Trek. Love how Kirk now has the backstory of the lead character from Team America.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Oh, and Hercules...

    by cutest_of_borg

    Still here my friend. I didn't go through with hanging myself with my shoelaces after ENTERPRISE was canceled.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Everyone in the Theater Laughed

    by medicinaluser

    at the trailer ... <BR><BR> Was that the reaction the makers were looking for? if it helps I am told almost everyone in there was under 25 with a handful of exceptions.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:40 a.m. CST


    by medicinaluser

    "Let me explain to you the kind of man James is. He's a man who knows that when you put another man's cock in your mouth, you make a pact. A bond that cannot be broken. He's a man so dedicated that he will get down on his knees and put that cock right in his mouth." <BR><BR>That scene needs to be in this film with the older captain speaking those very words about JTK to everyone on the bridge.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:46 a.m. CST

    I'm in

    by tolomey

    I am a hardcore Star Wars fan but recently I've been leaning towards Trek a lot. I'm not sure why. I've even read some of the books. Maybe it's because all the shit hat is going on in the world today and Star Trek, with it's optomitic view of the future, is a break from all that.<br> As far as the movie goes, I like JJ's tv work but I thought MI3 sucked ass. This however looks like it could be fun and the effects look wicked and the battles look like they are going to kick ass. I just wish there was room for a little Shatner too.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Bruce Greenwood...Nowhere Man

    by Carl's hat

    was Nowhere in this clip. How about Nowhere Man the movie J.J., with Bruce baby back as Thomas Veil?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    What Sylar won't have is the ability to curb his emotions...

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    the beauty of leonard nimoy was his ability to be mostly emotionless. I don't think Sylar has that capacity.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Ignore my typos

    by tolomey

    It's early here in the uk *yawn*

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Carl's hat..

    by Dr.DirtyD

    Watch it again, He's in it, sitting in the captains chair saying "fire all weapons."

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Jim Henson's Star Trek babies

    by disfigurehead

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Did I see the Cloverfield monster in there?

    by Angry Bald Guy

    I didn't need to know bad enough to watch it more than once.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:08 a.m. CST

    My Dinner with Andre in space.

    by gotilk

    Not enough action!!<br> <br> Kidding of course.<br> <br> Looks like it'll be a fun ride. Can't decide if I should call him Spocklar or Sylock... or maybe just Spork.<br> I remember in the talkback for Heroes when we were talking about the actor who would be playing the mysterious "Sylar" and someone pointed out he'd be a perfect Spock, even back then. It came up a few times after that. Then in the IMDB boards. Seemed like the only good choice, like he was made to play the character. Now we have it and he looks right in the part. Scotty looks and sounds great, so does Bones. I get how others are poo-pooing over this, but I'm feeling none of it. I'm 100% enthused and excited to see this. Bring on the quicktime.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:20 a.m. CST


    by SpiceWonBruce

    Same here. I went to the Regal Germantown 14 (right down the street from you!) and was disappointed when they didn't show the Trek trailer.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Spock is pissed!

    by sonnyfern

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Did he ever get that pissed?

    by sonnyfern

    Haven't seen a lot of the older shows...but did he ever get THAT mad?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST

    shit, that was awesome.

    by soup74

    what are some of you people looking for? if they didnt update it, it would be boring by today's standards.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:32 a.m. CST

    When or if it goes down.

    by gotilk

    And you missed it. drop me a line at gotilk @ gmail dot com and I can find a way to get it to you. (thanks Edshrinker!!) Also, many bittorrent sites have it already, so try there first.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:34 a.m. CST

    A Trek for those who read Twilight and mourn..

    by conspiracy

    the loss of the O.C. and Charmed. looks like pure ass. Like something test marketed, manufactured, and produced from the script on up to enthrall your basic 13yr old soon to be High School drop guys and the fashion obsessed mentally vacant girls they are about to knock up. Nothing but Explosions, tits, open mouths, and metrosexual men. Not Trek.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:34 a.m. CST


    by gotilk

    Indeed he did. There are few things that cause Spock to show emotion. One of them is pon-farr (spelling?) and the other is being on the Pike Enterprise. (remember the Spock smile?)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:40 a.m. CST

    "My Name is James Tiberius Kirk"=

    by conspiracy

    "Yipppeeeeeee!" Thats right...this trailer smells like a SW Prequel...All Looks...No Brains or Heart.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:46 a.m. CST

    it felt kinda empty and "michael bay"-ish

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i swear i thought the beginning stuff with the car racing toward a cliff was a car commercial - tacky - but obviously the teens love it - star trek is supposed to be "smart" - big ideas under all the glitz and cheese - i didnt sense any big ideas here - it looks like a war movie - young cadets go to war to fend off a scary bald tattooed eric bana - looks cool but i was hoping for a star trek movie - and spock never picked fights with kirk - he is half human, not half ass hole

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:46 a.m. CST


    by Playhouse

    <p>I love how everyone involved with this production downplays that it's a reboot, foisting Leonard Nimoy up as an example of it still being canon. Yet everything about it contradicts anything that has come before. It's not realistic [sic] that all of the main crew members would be posted to the Enterprise right out of the Academy and remain there for the next 25 years.</p> <p></p> <p>I have no problem with them doing a reboot if there's a justifiable reason for it. If the reason is apparent in the movie, so be it. But they're playing at it like everything we've always know about Trek is to come and this fits in nice and neat with that. I understand wanting to grab a whole new audience, but you can't have it both ways.</p> <p></p> <p>I think what would've been more interesting with this concept is to have followed the transition of command from Capt. April to Christopher Pike and his first adventure on the ship. We can see cameos by the other characters and Spock would be the common link. Then you free yourself up from so much baggage.</p> <p></p> <p>Otherwise, it looks kind of fun, if not a bit of an overload. Can't stand Orci and Kurtzman's writing, so that worries me. But I like Abrams' enthusiasm. And if it does what it's intended to do and reignite the franchise, then more power to it. I'll reserve final judgment until I see the movie.</p>

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Carl's Hat - Bruce Greenwood

    by Playhouse

    I believe that's also Greenwood's voiceover as Pike talking about/to Kirk in the early Earth scenes.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:49 a.m. CST

    that kid really woudve said...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    "my name is jimmy kirk" then he wouldve given the space cop the finger

  • Oh that's right, they WEREN'T.<p> <p>Looks far better than a great many of the Trek Movies we've already had.<p> <p>Isn't that shit smallville the first stop for Emo Nerds ? Unless I'm mistaken there seemed to be a fair bit of action in here and one Emo voiceover on top of the bike scene hardly means it's going to be Trek High School Musical with Kirk Spock and Bones giggling over girls.<p> <p>Still a bit early though, but let's face facts after SOME of the dreck Movies and the Enterprise failure this looks to be a well deserved kick in the ass to the whole franchise. Whether it works or not remains to be seen.<p> <p>Not a great fan of young Kirk either but again I'll wait for the Movie to pass judgement.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Playhouse: Well that's the thing, isn't it?

    by Playkins

    "If the reason is apparent in the movie, so be it."<P> Who knows? I think this just might be the ultimate "wait and see it" kinda thing, right? This could be the best thing that ever happened to Trek, or quite possibly the worst.<P> Of course, to be the worst, it would have to make less sense than the entirety of the "Enterprise" show. The show so bad it had to return to the "Next Generation" era in its finale to try to dovetail in and justify the continuity.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:53 a.m. CST

    negative man

    by slkboxrman

    livin up to your name as usual.....TRANSFORMERS and CLOVERFIELD were not insults to anyone....maybe to u....orci and kurtzman are great writers...just cuz u dont like their work dont mean anything really....transformers was amazing and perfectly done for this day and age.....and what was wrong with cloverfield ? shaky cam ? its really annoying when the people that complain they cant see whats goin on are the ones that would nitpick it to death if they could see it....

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Should have let Trek go away...

    by conspiracy

    with some dignity left. Now it seems reduced to a soppy Tween Angst pulp drama and CGI masturbation session. Not Smart, not idealistic or realistic...not Trek.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:58 a.m. CST

    slkboxrman....I really hope your kidding..

    by conspiracy

    If you are not, please...for your families sake..get yourself to rehab RIGHT NOW...because you are on some SERIOUS MIND ALTERING SHIT if really believe anything you just wrote!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:01 a.m. CST

    *rolls eyes*

    by thehoebo

    Looks like utter horse shite. Nothing in that trailer will appeal to the broader audience it will need. A retarded idea of a film from a retarded director. Trek is so dead they had to retcon and recast it to keeps it limping along. Should have finished when TNG finished.

  • My naem is James Tiberius Kirk, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.<p> <p>:D

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:02 a.m. CST

    soup74...Todays Standards.

    by conspiracy

    Beverly Hills Chihuahua and Transformers were hits, Lil John and Jonahs Brothers are considered music, and Twilight is considered literature.....Nothing like having high standards I guess.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Actually looks BIG SCREEN!

    by thevision

    The last Trek film that looked a Big Screen event film was "The Undiscovered Country." All of the Next Generation films- even the pretty good "First Contact"- looked liked 2 hour TV movies, BermanBraga regime could never fully translate to the Big Screen. I'm a small "t" Trekker so I could give a shit about canon and hoping JJ Abrams will finally wipe the stench of BermanBraga off the Trek universe. Ok, I'm hoping Eric Bana's Nero doesn't have the stupid TNG era Romulan forehead ridges and looked like he didn't in the pics but looking at the trailer not so sure- I'm hoping he's ridgeless.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    change Sylar's haircut...

    by watch_the_world_burn

    he looks like the fifth Beatle.<p> Trailer looked alright, except for that intro. Stupid kid, you always give your friends name when the cops pull you over. Plus you shouldn't be driving if your feet can't touch the pedals.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Anyone know the trailer music?

    by blindambition238

    I've heard it before, don't know where, and it's bugging me...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Nice to see these iconic images not tied down...

    by Julius Dithers

    to the Alexander Courage or Jerry Goldsmith (?) themes. Some things need to be de-emphasized. Hopefully, the words "prime directive" won't be uttered anywhere in this movie. It just needs to be fun. If I want to hear about I.D.I.C., I'll listen to the President-elect.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Looks like they basically gave it it the BSG treatment

    by blindambition238

    Which, as someone who never followed a sci-fi show aside from the aforementioned, makes me interested- something that I never said about Star Trek since that First Contact movie.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Uhura could "fan dance" again I spose

    by G100

    OR they could explore the deep philosophical questions of why God needs a spaceship.. OR try and recreate the Wrath of Khan ending with Data and fail so VERY miserably OR have Picard getting all Emo and learning to stop time in a Perfect Moment !<p> <p>No I think you'll find there was PLENTY of phasers, tits and monsters in the old flicks, not to mention rose tinted glasses for the heavy duty trekkies who don't seem to grasp some of it was pretty weak fucking stuff.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:22 a.m. CST


    by soup74

    sure there are the lowest common denominators of today's standards, But radiohead is still on of the biggest bands in the world, the cohen bros are almost mainstream, and lost, a well written deeply engaging mystery, is T.V.s biggest hit. <br><br>its always easy to point of the lows points as well as the high points.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:26 a.m. CST


    by alice 13

    but he sounds like his star trek pajamas are the kind that have the little booties on them. gah.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay


    Damn You Michael Bay

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:37 a.m. CST

    The Star Trek Trailer: I Was Not Impressed!!!

    by Media Messiah

    The trailer looks cheap and the film, from what is shown in the trailer, feels like the Bizarro World version of Star Trek!!! One weekend in theatres, and this film will be dead at the box office!!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:45 a.m. CST

    PS: Good To See The Paramount & Bad Robot Plants Are Back!!!

    by Media Messiah

    This movie looks so aweful you guys had to resort to planting faux positive comments here??? This after you leaked the trailer on You Tube yourselves??? Enough said, this movie is a turkey!!! Happy Thanks Giving, but no thankx!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:47 a.m. CST

    The next person who calls something

    by gotilk

    EMO is getting pistol-whipped. That shit's getting older than x-small shirts, home hair cuts, womens jeans on men and l.e.d. belts.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Favorite moment

    by Il Buono Il Brutto Il Cattivo

    At 1:06-the ship hits warp speed. Those blue streaks are beauties.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:59 a.m. CST

    I like the look of this

    by MattmanReturns

    Something very original about the effects in the trailer. The cast seems appropriate, but I'll need to see more before I rush to judgement. Those of you declaring this "SHIT" or "it will bomb" based on a couple of minutes of fast cut footage are full of shit and you know it.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:01 a.m. CST


    by chipps

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:15 a.m. CST

    conspiracy ?

    by slkboxrman

    serious about what exactly ? maybe ur negative man under a diff name ? i know most of u losers have multiple names so u can keep posting whiny negative BS and make it look like theres alot of u.......and YES transformers was awesome and perfectly done....

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:16 a.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    ...but I'll probably go see it anyway. That kid at the beginning is terrible, though. I thought Kirk grew up on a farm in fucking Iowa?

  • Already do you ?<p> <p>Let's see Kirk seems to be cocky (and no doubt womanising), Bones is amusingly downbeat, Scotty enthusiastic and excitable, the only strange thing is Spocks anger but there might be a plot point for that.<p> <p>So far characterwise they seem to be mostly pretty on target and this is the beginning of their characters formation as a team on the Enterprise (Or did you not grasp that simple fucking fact Douchebag ?)<p> <p>Try and rewrite history all you wish some of the Trek Movies were pretty shit.<p> <p>Of course the fact that I NEVER claimed the good ones were Schindlers List would seem to be the desperate flailings of someone trying (and failing) to misrepresent my position.<p> <p>You REALLY need me to spell it out to you AGAIN ? You DO ? *sigh* Fine. Some of the Trek Movies were pretty fucking poor. Nowhere in that sentence or anywhere fucking else did I say you claimed Trek 1-5 were Schindler's List. Fucktard.<p> <p>And far from painting some polyanna picture of this new Movie I at least had the sense to qualify my remarks with - Whether it works or not remains to be seen. - Not a great fan of young Kirk either but again I'll wait for the Movie to pass judgement.<p> <p>So look elsewhere for naive optimism and the "Abrams can do no wrong fanatics" or their polar opposite the hysterical trekkie idiots damning it with very little evidence and getting amusingly upset over minor canon like Enterprise nacelles.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:19 a.m. CST


    by slkboxrman

    no one ever ever ever said this was one ever said it was a prequel.... it was always said this was a relaunch, reboot, reimagining from the very beginning of star trek... so nothing that came before it really matters...from what i hear they do something early in the movie that will have the hard core trekkers screaming blasphemy...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:19 a.m. CST

    Spock's anger

    by caruso_stalker217

    Not very strange. That guy was losing his shit left and right in the original series.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:22 a.m. CST

    We're in a world where a trek movie could be

    by TheManBehindTheMask

    cooler than a Star Wars one? WTF happends???

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:25 a.m. CST


    by TheWaqman

    Watchmen trailer was much better. This trailer is fucking lame and a disgrace to the talents that are Winona Ryder, Eric Bana and Simon Pegg. Honestly whats up with the opening? Worst fucking opening ever. Trying to sell him as a badass. JJ Abrams you fucking hack!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:30 a.m. CST

    What's with the car?

    by viola123

    I mean, right now. All I want to know is why James Tiberius Kirk drove that car off the cliff. It seems so wrong, and so reckless(!), and so annoying. There better be a reasonable explanation for it; otherwise, the rest of the movie needs to pull up from even further down. *sigh*, this is from a "Star Trek" fan. ... Which is also why I am next ticked at Spock's portrayal. I mean, he looks the part, but I hope they don't try and go overboard with Spock's human heritage. ... And finally, the Eric Bana as a Romulan-thing. Argh! Just argh. His "look" is going to annoy me every time he comes on I think. And I hate that, because I like Eric Bana. I mean, he's all right. ... Having now seen this trailer two times, I... don't... think I like it. I'm not certain, but it's definitely leaning towards "not". :(

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:33 a.m. CST

    James T. Kirk is a badass

    by Dr.DirtyD

    ...YOu troll.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Looks like "Lost in Space"

    by zacdilone

    Where's the guy from "Friends?"

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:42 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    All crane shots and empty flash. No surprise though.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:58 a.m. CST


    by LHombreSiniestro

    YOUNG KIRK'S GOT IT BAD CUZ HE'S BROWN!!....well browner than a robot....

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:59 a.m. CST


    by Player 1

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4 a.m. CST

    That trailer does the impossible...

    by MisterE makes Rick Berman look like a fucking cinematic genius. What a piece of garbage.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:01 a.m. CST


    by Player 1

    Looks like you're going to get something fun to watch finally. I get fucking embarrassed to call my self a sci-fi fan when the hoi-polloi see modern Star Trek. It's complete banal, weak shit. This is just what the franchise needs. And to the asshole complaining about 'weird camera angles' I suggest you go back to Panavision & Technicolour and enjoy those 'Romantic Comedies' of the 60s, might be more your style.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:03 a.m. CST

    The ensigns better be wearing miniskirts...

    by MisterE

    ...with no panties. Unfortunately, that will probably only apply to the male ensigns.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:13 a.m. CST

    It looks fun but...

    by Kirbymanly

    ... the trouble with J.J., who I think always has his geek heart in the right place, is that he always casts actors that are waaayyy too pretty and we resent that-- to the point where we backlash. The simple reason is, the movies of the 70's and 80's (and maybe even the early to mid 90's) cast people based on their abilities and not overall looks... that's why there are more movies from those times periods that are better than now. Very simple answer but true. Ask yourself this question... who comes across as good in that trailer... Simon Pegg. Good looking? No. Great actor? You bet your ass. Not to say that good looking people can't be actors... the whole system was based on that. The trick is finding both and that's what Hollywood's greatest mistake of the 00's has been.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:14 a.m. CST

    My name is James Tiberious Kirk, son! Step off pig!

    by Heckles

    I half-expected the kid to wink at the camera.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Definitely Cool, more Pegg please

    by Wandering_Prophet

    I could give two shits about Star Trek in the long haul, raised in the TNG generation the only original Trek I could stand was Kahn and The one with the whales. This definitely looks sweet. And I wanna see a whole lot more Simon Pegg. I get the sense just from his one line that he will be a bit green in the movie, which should be fantastic. Some of you are complaining that there is too much flash ans spectacle, but I always thought that's what Star Trek needed, and I'm sure if Roddenberry would have had 200 mil, it's what he would have made too.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Captain Ryan Seacrest

    by drturing

    You know, that's really the thing that bothers me about this. Kirk should be cheesily manly and kinda odd, not a daytime soap actor. And then it hit me how this could've been genius.<p> Imagine Ryan Gosling as a young Kirk. The same cockiness and insanity. It's perfect. That's really what Kirk is defined by, Shatner's purely odd acting choices.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:25 a.m. CST

    raping your childhood at warpspeed

    by palewook

    looks like micheal bay shot this shit

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Are Jeri Ryan's tits in this one?

    by henrydalton

    They could be just like, floating in space...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Official site says...

    by wackybantha

    .....that the new trailer will be available on Monday afternoon! I can't wait to see it again! In HD!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:43 a.m. CST

    ALL YOU HATERS stay at home with your Trek dvd sets

    by lostbat

    Its time to move on. This looks like the best thing after Deep Space Nine. Thanks J.J. ENGAGE!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:45 a.m. CST

    I guess that if I was a Star Trek..

    by Aeghast, I'd be multiple-orgasm-ing all over the place, right?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:46 a.m. CST

    The bootlegs been out a while. AICN is late to the party

    by Orionsangels

    As usual. You guys are getting slow in your old age. All those young geek sites are beating you to the punch. Shape up guys or ship out!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:47 a.m. CST

    Stay at home and get the torrent?

    by Orionsangels

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:08 a.m. CST

    not impressed

    by moviemaniac-7

    but I am not a Trekkie at all. Still, I hope this will work...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:08 a.m. CST

    Once again we see why Star Trek fans have such...

    by u.k. star

    ... a bad rep, and why so many people are embarassed to admit they really like Trek, or are "teased" wen they do. It's pretty sad really. Trailer is good at convincing the audience who need to be convinced. those who are indifferent or are anti Trek. They already know Trek is "cerebral", it is one of the reasons they avoid the Trek movies, too "cheap" compared to the #Star Wars type movies, the genuine big studio movies, lots of talk relatively little, cheap, action and the feeling that you may as well stay at home and watch a double episode of the tv shows. I'm not saying that's how I feel, as I am a fan of Trek for many years now (Voyager doesn't count) and I like the look of that trailer. I already know there's gonna be a plot in there, sure a trailer that tells me what it is would be good, and will probably turn up at superbowl time (When you Americans like to put your best summer trailers out) for now it isn't me that needs to care about this film it is the other audience, and so far (from those I know who have seen the trailer and are NOT Trek fans) it is working. It is thoe people who will take this from being a $70m - $100m grosser in the U.S to a film that could OPEN with $50m - $100m U.S and have a realistic chance of grossing $200m+ U.S. More importantly Star Trek movies make very little money outside of the U.S. and any truly big film wants to make at least 40% of it's money outside America hopefully %50% or more. New cast, the promise of excitment and broadening the audience will help with this. Don't get me started on the fact that none of us has seen the damn film yet, so we have no clue as to how it pans out, let alone what ideas they may be setting up for future movies. I mean someone was complaining that they shouldn't all be on the Enterprise now. Why not? who the hell knows where they will be by the end of the film or at the start of the 2nd movie. They could be on 5 different ships, they could start 5 years later and Kirk is picking his crew for his 1st command and choses the people he was with in this movie. Who knows? Why are people so interested in whinging about stuff they have little or no info about? It is not a rhetorical question, please answer me.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:08 a.m. CST

    This is going to make Speed Racer look like Gone With The Wind

    by Mr.LordBronco

    Physicsts and scientists are going to have to spend centuries creating an algorithm that accurately describes how much money and talent was wasted creating this POS. I don't need to see this preview in High-def Bluray-It's only going to get worse. For the record, I loved Cloverfield. What GOD allowed such an embarrassing trailer to ever exist? It's like...crappy Starship Troopers sequel number 5 cast by... ...the cast of the O.C.!!! People are worried about the squid in Watchmen and Avatar @#@!ing our eyeballs in 2009... Here's a real clue- Our eyeballs just got %*&^ed by the most juvenile, puerile and utterly amateurish remake ever made. It was so bad, I laughed for twenty minutes. Great casting of people who formerly had careers-I mean what are these actors going to do after this fiasco? Damn you JJ Cloverfield-how could you do this to Simon Pegg?!? It wasn't Bana's fault for Ang Lee's Hulk!!! WHYYYYYOHHHWHYYYYY? I'm sure there will be a Nimoy appearance at the beginning of the film-where he reminisces as Spock about how he used to street Race with with Vin Diesel-umm no wait-umm that dude cast as that dude who's hoping to be cast in XxX part 5 Autobahn Drift. For the love of Christ-The mere fact that more than 1000 dollars was spent to, yes... RAPE MY CHILDHOOD by making a piece of crap Star Trek remake... just.. it justs... It boggles my mind! I'm doing fine, hope you all are as well. I'm still sniggling as I type! -MLB *^_^*

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Spock is gonna kick some major klingons ass!

    by Gorgomel

    "live long and prosper motherfuckers!"

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Snakes on a Starship

    by zacdilone

    That's the vibe I get.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Terrible trailer

    by evil twin

    You could have cut up Nemesis and made a trailer as good as that. I suppose if can't actually be worse than Nemesis though so that's a plus.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:27 a.m. CST


    by optimus122

    Great post UK , nice to see some logic once in a while instead of the bonehead stuff that guys like lord bronco shovel.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Mr.LordBronco... You got all that from the trailer?

    by Droid

    damn, I should've paid more attention.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:37 a.m. CST

    As someone

    by kwisatzhaderach

    who watched Star Trek originally because of the strength of the writing and characterisation I have no faith whatsoever in Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci to pull this off. But it probably wasn't their intention to make that movie in the first place. The dialogue in the trailer is terrible. Absolutely rotten. All the posts defending the trailer are of the "gee wow! looks cool" mentality. Can any of you really say that the acting is good? Pegg's line delivery is atrocious. Somewhere Nicholas Meyer is weeping. I totally agree that the series needed to be rescued from Berman and co but is this really the best Paramount could come up with? The Star Wars prequels should have taught everybody in the creative industries that it's a mistake to go down the backstory route.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:38 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    sanitized kid friendly empty-headed action flicks are what Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci specialise in.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Most UNINSPIRING trailer ever.

    by Pixelsmack

    I know Trek needs needs to pull a Star Wars Ep 1-3 on us in order to survive and gain new trailer is brass plated balls of suck.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:41 a.m. CST

    A 20th century car? I always ride a horse drawn carriage.

    by Orionsangels

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Building the Enterprise? It looks like a smelting factory.

    by Orionsangels

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Style over substance.

    by V'Shael

    This looks fucking awful.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:47 a.m. CST

    Brett Ratner Directs Star Trek 2...

    by Mr.LordBronco

    ...because this reboot/retcon is going to need another reboot/retcon. Starring Chris Tucker as Spock and Mel Gibson as the old/young Kirk. Jack Black as the young Kirk and Seth Rogen as Bones! Deal with it Bitches! (UK posts many valid points-most of which point to Rodennberry's original, lasting ideas. If only we had seen some of that!) -MLB

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Trek didn't need to pull a Star Wars I - III in order to survive. All it needed was fresh, creative, GOOD new blood with a new crew for the Enterprise. Its ironic for a series whose mantra is "To boldly go where no man has gone before" that they have reverted to this kind of tired fanwank as an effort to resuscitate it. Shatner and Nimoy are iconic cultural figures. Recasting the parts is lunacy. They should have cleared the decks and started completely afresh, as they did with TNG in 1987, and let the series live or die on the strengths of the casting, writing and execution. This new film may be a hit and pull in a lot of money but its not healthy for Trek in the long run - they can't keep going back to Kirk and Spock, and the fact that they have shows how creatively dry the Bad Robot well is.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Brett's directing Orders:

    by Mr.LordBronco

    ...listen Brett, "We here at the studio... Well, here's what we need. Make it less lame, and get it in with a 65 day shooting schedule. You've so much good work under duress i.e. X-Men 3 that we think you are ready for a real shot at an unlimited franchise. Unfortunately, we had to let JJ Abrams go, you understand how this works..."

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Why the hel no news on Harry Potter new trailer?

    by theycallmemrglass

    WB released a 3rd (official) trailer two days ago. And its fucking awesome. But I dont suppose most of this particular trek crowd gives a shit!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:12 a.m. CST

    Trailer is too damn rushed

    by theycallmemrglass

    The low quality bootlegging of the ST trailer is a put off so I'll wait for the proper one. But it all looks too rushed. I rather see less of the movie and more longer scenes to get a feel of the movie. Scotty though seems perfect! The music was all too standard fare too, but typical for a trailer that just wants to bombard you with fast edit scenes. I was hoping for a bit more ambience and mood.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:15 a.m. CST

    To the apostles of the Star Trek gospel:

    by Octaveaeon

    The Original Star Trek is not the Old Testament. Nor is it the Tanakh, the Talmud, or the Quran. Gene Roddenberry was not Moses, nor St. Paul. My point? Isn't it irrelevant, not to mention unproductive, to make such a case about adhering to immaterial details and factoids as if they were sacred writ? You sound like the Catholics going on about the 10 commandments or mullahs telling others how to adhere to their interpretation of Divine Law. In doing so, you too risk overlooking the true lesson, namely that which animates the show and made it so universally popular in the first place. My sincere advice: Honor the show in your actions, not in your cult-like assimilation and preservation of images and events which are incidental to the essence of what the show's creators were trying to convey.<p> “Some never participate. Life happens to them. They get by on little more than dumb persistence and resist with anger or violence all things that might lift them out of resentment-filled illusions of security.”<p> -- Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune [p. 159]

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:16 a.m. CST

    They fucking dumbed down Star Trek...

    by Volllllume3

    Is nothing sacred anymore for fuck sake???

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:16 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    If a new team came up with a brilliant space adventure that was well written, well directed, well acted and visually astounding do you not think it would do well? If they got in a great cast that appealed to a lot of different sections in society? The last half-way decent thing in Trek was First Contact, 12 years ago. I think, in order to make a blockbuster, Paramount have ditched all the elements that made the series what it was, and have come up with this kind of tween-space series to replace it. Going back to Kirk and Spock's early days is a creative cul-de-sac.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:18 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I'm not averse to change and improvement. But I am averse to dumbing down and bad filmmaking.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Bring it on

    by Shub-Wankalot

    Everyone's ass will be in the theater, come rain or shine, when this movie launches. That is all.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Rodenberry suffered a nervous breakdown completing Star Trek I

    by Mr.LordBronco

    Yup, I read his biography. His Western in Space motif was enlightened by a strong love of science and engineering coupled with the frailties of humans grappling with these issues. These conflicts played out well given time to breathe in a weekly series with capable scriptwriters. Trying to compact his ideas into a big budget movie ultimately lead to his literal demise. That along with dealing with the day to day production chores on a large budget motion picture. As much as I and we all like Wrath of Khan-it's only because the franchise was literally taken from him and produced by a third party. As far as I am concerned, the last good Star Trek movies were 2, 4, 6. Galaxy Quest was the last good Star Trek movie (I'm gonna call it number 8). It looks like that's all we're ever gonna see-because that trailer was a complete/fail. Gotta call em like I see 'em! He he -MLB

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:27 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I totally agree with you. Trek has always been about character and writing, the two things that are almost certain to be the weakest elements of this new film. Take a gander at Kurtzman and Orci's writing record. It speaks for itself.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:27 a.m. CST


    by Octaveaeon

    That's not to say that the trailer does not highlight style over substance. Then again, it's a commercial, and movies function as a business, so if they think that this is the best way to get asses on the seats, all power to them. Who knows, maybe the force is with Abrams on this one (it certainly isn't with Lucas lately). I'm still willing to give it a shot.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:32 a.m. CST

    j.j.'s fascination with angsty young men

    by bright boy

    gay. really gay

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:35 a.m. CST

    You spelled TREK wrongly you hilariously stupid twat

    by G100

    REALLY you're THAT fucking stupid ?<p> <p>Bringing up a typo when you can't even spell THAT correctly ? Jesus what a prize cock.<p> <p>And speaking of "Somebody babbling incoherently" "Trek 1-5 Was all I was talking about, since it would be absurd to reboot The Next Generation with the cast of the original series."<p> <p>What you DIDN'T know that 6 and 7 have original cast members in them ??? Fuck me I'm not a trekkie and even I know that much. "I think the idiot is understood at this point." Indeed it is, but you have FAR bigger problmes like..<p> <p>"The, wasn't there not any in any previous star trek film? I don't mean to sound like a prude," "nookie" "naughty bits," No you sound like a 12 year old. Exactly what do you think Kirk was up to with all those Women and Alien females ? Christ grow up.<p> <p>"But I'm not really angry about it, I don't give a shit about star trek.""you got me riled" Yeah, you're right. That IS too much fun dipshit.<p> <p>"at least it looks shiny." You seem to be forgetting that ALL the Trek films are special effects heavy and the over-reliance on them nearly sank the first one under the weight of pointlessly looooooooong tracking and establishing shots of the Enterprise and the Vyger artifact. Not to mention that 3 and 5 simply weren't very good. Character driven or not.<p> <p>But hey you are one of those who can tell from a 2 minute trailer exactly how "dumbed down" or "kiddie friendly" this is aren't you ? Enough said.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:40 a.m. CST


    by Octaveaeon

    [Funny that I should be responding to this moniker.] I completely agree, though we won't be justified in our opinions until we have seen the movie. But my comments were mainly adressed to all those you are making judgments based on what they feel are deviations from Star Trek Canon, why I feel not only belabors the point, but ultimately overshadows the essence and purpose of the show. Not unlike what many religious dogmatists and fundamentalists do. But you probably understand this already, seeing that you borrow your alias from the anti-messiah of Herbert's Dune series.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:45 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I know, but i'm 90% certain those opinions will be justified. And don't get me started on religion.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:46 a.m. CST

    What does "from a trek 1-5 fan only" mean?

    by u.k. star

    We'd have comments to respond to as oppossed to "bitchy(ness)". Debate, conversation stuff like that. As I said before You've seen a trailer that appeals to a much wider audience than almost any other Trek movie has before. Wheter people like it or not it HAS to convince that audience that this isn't just a double tv episode with a marginally higher budget. The "Trekkies" are going anyway, those of them still living, but they don't get Paramount more than about $70m - $100m. It comes down to this. You can either choose to assume that there's no substance to the movie because it isn't shown in this trailer, or you can actually wait and see if that's the case either from hints in the NEXT trailer or .wait for it. by watching the movie itself. I know we don't like to do that in the C21st but surely critism of a movie entire should be reserved for a movie entirely seen? I've given the commercial reasons for a triler "needing" to be cut this way, time will tell if that's the case or not, but there's more reason to think that it is than it isn't. Like it or not in moviegoing terms, Trek apathetics outweigh Trekkies (ers) by hundreds of millions of dollars, and it costs money to make our Trek. To make a genuine Movie experience trek costs more money than the old films were making, and the money gained from extra sources wasn't really justifying making the films. Wprse the movies (expensive as they were) weren't really "Blockbuster" level in terms of what's on screen anyway. Maybe the new Trek won't be what the old trek fans want, if so they can watch there old videos / DVDs / HDs and be happy, whilst the new generation are (hopefully) enjoying the new Trek. All I'm saying is this trailer does what it's meant to do, I've talked to my non Treking friends and aquaintances and it worked on them, and read many posts from non Trek fans who say they liked it. If that trend continues the trailer has worked. Are we not liking it because the actors are young? Seriously? Because the triler has quick cuts / editing? for real? Because we have some supernatural ability to extrapolate the entire feel, pace characterisation and plot of the movie from this trailer? From this trailer as opposed to the inevitable 3rd and 4th trailers that get to some kind of plot explanation. Anyone not convinced by the consistant sub %100m (U.S), and negligible international grosses of the previous Trek movies should look at the current polls for Star Trek movie interest in Empire magazine. It'll be interesting to see if it's able to recover any following the release of this trailer in the U.K (whenever the hell that will be in theaters). How excited are you about Star Trek? Vote Now! I'd rather eat my own feet! 40% Vote Not really my thing, sorry1% Vote I might wait for the DVD 3% Vote Looks good, count me in 13% Vote Hell yes, I'm booking now 15% Vote Best. Film. Ever. 28% That's pretty bad, and that's what needs to be addressed. I'll judge the film on it's merits. Let's face it the Phantom #Menace and Attack of the clones had fans in a frenzy from their trailers and look at what many fans think of them now. Vote

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Star Trek vs. Star Wars

    by GeorgieBoy

    Well, I guess that debate is over. Star Trek has now BECOME Star Wars... It's taken 25 years to get from the slow lumbering capitol ship battle of Kirk vs. Khan to the slam-bang-Mcdonald's-mentality of gotta have my action hot and fast. This movie has disaster written all over it.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST

    looks great

    by newc0253

    the little transporter signature at the end sent a chill down my spine

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST

    LOVED that trailer - cool new TREK!

    by lastboyonearth

    I think the epic scale and story looks fan-tastic! Quinto really seems to be channeling Nimoy via Sylar, and Pine is surprisingly acceptable as Kirk!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Looks Good........But I won't accept it as cannon.....Only a reb

    by Mike Hunt

    Because anyone who has done his research knows that Kirk, Chekov and McCoy ARE NOT the same age as they are apparently portrayed in this movie!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Really good trailer

    by cornponious

    But I STILL don't like the idea of enterprise being built on earth in some field.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:12 a.m. CST

    only decent Trek stuff is...

    by Mr.LordBronco

    Movie Star Trek 2 and 4! Sorry UK, I will retract my Movie 6-if you sir will retract Movie 5 (that was truly awful-Kirk Versus the wrath of God as I recall) I think we all agree that the first 3 years of Television episodes should be thrown in! As to TNG, Enterprise, DS 9... Only Avery Brooks and Jean Luc Picard! And That's it: Final Answer. :-) -MLB (and the new so-called trailer still is utter fail. new trailer=do not want)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:14 a.m. CST

    When Trek is good it's good but when it's shit it's shit

    by G100

    It's amazing how much trouble some of the trekkies have in grasping that simple point.<p> <p>But that's what makes them trekkies I suppose, unquestioning Zombie like blind fucking conviction that it is untouchable and every Trek episode and Movie is the absolute pinnacle of science fiction TV or film-making.<p> <p>It's not. I really like the original series but, by Christ, there's some dreck in amongst the Gold.<p> <p>Without the Kirk, Spock Bones triumverate holding it all together some of it would be unwatchable. In fact there are still parts of TOS you simply can't watch without a very forgiving eye so absurd are they. But you can enjoy them as LONG as you don't make the fatal mistake of taking them FAR TOO SERIOUSLY.<p> <p>There simply weren't enough "City on the Edge of Forever's" to say that Trek was deadly serious science fiction that must always be treated with an awe bordering on lunatic reverance. It's revisionism. Trek unashamedly went for the cheap gags on occasions and so did the Trek Movies. One of THE funniest short scenes ever to appear on TV is Kirk kissing the green haired Alien Babe, then punching her out. NOT because violence against women is funny but becasue it's KIRK and we think "yeah, he'd do that." Kirk usually wasn't truly happy unless he was teaching Alien females the true meaning of "earth love" or beating/blasting the crap out of someone.<p> <p>Trek isn't hard science fiction and only occasionally was a technological or cultural extrapolation of current events highlighting dangers and trends.<p> <p>Most of the time it was pulp space opera adventure and there's nothing wrong with that. But lets not pretend it's the untouchable fucking messiah of science fiction. It's not.<p> <p>It MIGHT have now run it's course had it's time. This Movie MIGHT not be very good and Trek will again sink below the waves.<p> <p>But it MIGHT, just might be fairly good and I'm simply not going to damn it on this 2 minutes of evidence because it's premature.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:17 a.m. CST

    kaspianwithak and anyone else who saw new HP trailer

    by theycallmemrglass

    Now thats how to make a fucking trailer. Pacing is perfect. Thats how the Star trek trailer should have been. But I guess I do agree with the argument that its got to appeal to a larger audience but i thinks its way too early for that. Do that in the next trailer and tv spots. Target the fans first. As HBP did with the first teaser with Dumbledore and Tom for example. I dont know, I love Trek but I'm somewhat disappointed with this trailer. Maybe when I see it in its full Quicktime glory, I'll feel different.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Kirk travels back in time and steals a sportscar?

    by grampageezer

    So let me get this straight... Star Trek is supposed to take place 300-400 years from now, but they're still driving combustable engine sports-cars and motorcycles?? - And the last time I drove through the flat, farmlands amd plains of Kansas, (where Kirk was supposed to have grown up) I don't remember seeing any mega-cliffs or the abyss. - One more thing....did my ears decieve me, or did Scotty say "I like this Sh#t?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST

    enough people here are saying they liked it...

    by Gabba-UK

    to give me hope. Stuck at work in Selby today and there's no 3G signal to see it on my iPhone so hopefully I see it when I get home. Interesting fact for you yanks, Selby abbey has a stained glass window that incorperates the family crest of George Washington and is cited as an influence on the design of the Stars And Stripes. Back to the trailer. What I'm liking about what being said about it is this. I'm a Star Trek fan that as a general rule hates the hardcore fans with a passion, being as they are whiney bitchs who think Roddenberry shat out gold bricks. Nothing wrong with that as such. Theres a couple of things that I'm the same with. But when you are that invested in something, you lose objectivity. I'm having trouble coming to terms with people not liking the new Enterprise because there's chrome on the leading end of the warp nacelles..... that's taking anally retentive to new levels in my opinion. JJ is a good storyteller. If he can engage most of the fans and bring non-fans to the world of Trek and do it in a fresh and interesting way, then this fan for one wouldn't care if the Enterprise was bright blue and Kirk had a tail. If their shooting at you, your doing something right...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST


    by Octaveaeon

    What I always took from the shows were the moral, political, and philosophical questions they dealt with (though I appreciate this in hindsight). Of course these questions were brought to life by vivid and engaging characters in engrossing space adventures. But my point is that things such as the look of the Enterprise, or where it was built, or any of the infinite quibbles that so many Star Trek fans have been debating about in the last few days based solely on what they have read, or the little that they have seen, are all incidental to the moral, intellectual, and philosophical themes that these shows, even if superficially, nevertheless explored. More than anything, I would like a similar approach to the story and the characters by Abrams. And though I have my doubts based on this trailer alone, I will reserve judgment until I have seen the movie.<p> As to to my comments regarding sacred and divine law: I thought that the comparison was obvious enough, but if you want me to clarify my views on the problem of Divine Law and human interpretation, I'm more than willing. Is that what you want?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:21 a.m. CST

    I like the look.

    by I Hope You Die

    The set design is awesome.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:24 a.m. CST

    bruce greenwood @ 1:20

    by RaveX

    just saying...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Heres that hilarious short scene with Kirk BTW

    by G100

    BEHOLD the Glory that is the Shatner at play.<p> <p><p> <p>And here's a round up of Kirks guide to women.<p> <p>

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:34 a.m. CST

    This feels like Bryan Singer's Superman in its Gayness

    by chien_sale

    That effiminate kid with the dyed hair, and the look Kirk and Spock give to one another has an earieness of Superman Returns.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:35 a.m. CST

    For the record, I watch ST V more than others

    by theycallmemrglass

    My favourite is VII (Generations), then V, then I, then VI, then II, then III, then IV, then IX, then VIII. I love them all. I just feel sorry for those who dont like the so called fucking odd numbers because there is so much to enjoy in the characters and plot. V had a great fucking plot but it was all about the characters, well directed by the Shat, and thats what I like most about Star Trek, the character play and the fucking absurd situations they get themselves into.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Spurious comment indeed...

    by u.k. star

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Sci Fi space flicks that begin with an old car or horse...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...or something are a pet thorn in my ass. Are we really supposed to ask ourselves ..."...what!! am I in the wrong theater?! My god!, I'm here to see Star Trek...don't let it start!, don't let it START!...fuck, I gotta get outa here!...oh, wait. There's a space ship hovering there...maybe it's OK. Maybe I'll just double check my ticket..." Just seems like a cheap attention getter to me.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    New Star Trek = Smallville

    by D o o d

    I'm not sure what it is, but I think it has to be something with the spoken English. I've noticed this more and more with recent movies. There seems to be this very young teen style of speak in new movies. I appreciate they need to appeal to a younger audience, but I don't feel transported to another distant future in time. Instead I'm watching a film made in a shopping mall.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:39 a.m. CST

    ?cerebral = explosions?

    by palewook

    when stuff aimed 12-15 year olds or stoned middle aged fanboys is called "cerebral" for having explosions.. its almost funny. <p> pick up a book once in awhile. it might go against everything the net has "taught" you. try it. you might just find out what cerebral really means.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:44 a.m. CST

    D o o d....I tend to agree with you in my gut, but...

    by FlickaPoo you really think it's an intentional dumbing down?...or just the way people talk now? I can hear my grandmother saying..."...I do declare!...when people talk in these new movies they, well!, they just sound like children!. I just think the old Kirk was the bees knees!".

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST

    I keep forgetting Eric Bana(Mad Max 4) is in this

    by Stuntcock Mike

    I'll be checking it out for sure.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST


    by SkidMarkedUndies

    I got chills. Whether that was from the trailer or my bad URI I don't know. But I got CHILLS!!!

  • Not you're weak ass tribble "joke"? I'm presuming it WAS meant to be a joke. Wasn't it ?<p> <p>But hey, you stick to your "slimier tribbles" and "nookie" and "naughty bits" and have a "good old time" with that.<p> <p>I'll still be laughing very hard indeed since you seem completely unaware how amusing you sound and keep adding more Gold to the pile with the likes of "I win".<p> <p>No there's NOTHING hysterically funny or childish about that kaspianwithak. Nothing whatsoever.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:51 a.m. CST

    Spurious comment indeed...

    by u.k. star

    "Appealing to a wider audience does one thing (make more money). " Sorry but that's just nonsense. Star wars appealed to a wider audience (1st set) as did Jaws, Raiders of the lost ark, The Dark Knight, Iron Man and countless other movies. More commercial does not = shit, shit = shit. Makes more money is not the dirty phrase you paint it to be. If movies don't make money noone can make movies. Don't assume that just because more commerical things have been allowed into this film that the story / character elements have had to go. Many films marry the two, and the problem with Trek is it didn't (in movie terms) do that ofeten enough, and had a very limited audience that the cost of the movies couldn't support. Money is not a dirty word, you can't make films without it and yes, I'm sorry but big space battles and action are part of a movie like this and the audience NEED to know that it is there. Once again you're choosing to assume that because the FIRST real trailer choose to showcase what will have mass appeal, rather than on what may immediately confirm to those, (increasingly large number of people who couldn't care less if they never saw Trek again) that another cheap, talky tv movie is on the way, that the movie is only going be flash and emptiness. Commerically it's exactly the trailer they had to make. Most of the people on this talkback are irrelevent for that trailer's target. the only thing needed to get them (however much whinging they will do) was the words Star Trek and an opening date. There's $25m plus right there. Love it or hate it, that trailer is after the other $25m - $75m, and once again the evidence suggests it's working on them. Judge a movie on a trailer if you must, but it's folly at best. Casino Royal the movie is relatively light on action, the trailer is full of it, for a reason. On another night you really like Star Trek V more than Star Trek VI?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:54 a.m. CST

    That looks great!

    by robotdevil

    As someone who usually thinks Star Trek is paced for my grandpa, I have to say that movie looks like something i'd watch and enjoy.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:54 a.m. CST

    well at least

    by yubnubrocks

    The trailer didn't give the movie away. It is very rushed but hey, that's fine. And I've learned to never judge movies on trailers.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:58 a.m. CST

    I'm glad I'm only mildly interested in Trek...

    by JackPumpkinhead

    If I were a Trekker/Trekkie/what's the official name, after seeing this, I'd probably feel more or less the way I felt when I saw Harrison Ford fly out of that nuclear explosion in a refrigerator...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:08 a.m. CST

    actually I have a soft spot for V.

    by Gabba-UK

    thought it had some great character moments that made me chuckle. Plus it seemed like they were having fun making it. Which is odd when you hear that The Shat isn't thought of highly by the other cast members.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Tibs was trying to jump a shark


    That or he was trying to prevent the Fonz from doing it. Wich would explain the classic car. Why does the cop look like those rock band robbers from Daft Punks Aerodynamic video?????

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    What is your name


    Lil Tibs Nigga

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:18 a.m. CST

    FlickaPoo.....Original Star Trek

    by D o o d

    still manages to hold it's own. I don't think it's as simple as an international dumbing down but the way language has evolved. However, in a movie you can take a little artistic licence not to represent the real world but give it an unearthy feel. I suppose the reason why the original star trek sounds so sweet to the ears is because people did actually speak like that back then.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST


    by CeejayNightwing

    They need to leave Star Trek Alone for about 10 more years and then come back with something befitting the concept set in the future beyond TNG and stop doing this regression and psuedo-retro bullshit! Star Trek was supposed to be about advancing the human spirit and adventure, not about generating teen appeal for the 90210 and Gossip Girl sect!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST

    I must admit...

    by Seany-Wan

    I got a little choked up at that shot around 1:05, Kirk, Spock and the bridge crew behind them. Classic Trek shot!Looks right to me! And Karl Urban as Bones...boy, was I wrong. He is perfect!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:28 a.m. CST

    I'm a total TOS and TNG fan

    by moondoggy2u

    I do think that,as a series, TNG was actually superior to TOS, if only because TNG was able to put out twice as many stories, a better hit-to-miss ratio, and expiriment a bit more, too. However, TOS was much better at the cinema than TNG. Not only because Brennon and Braga's insane decision to alter the formula and have TNG emulate TOS, but also because the trio of Shatner, Nimoy, and Kelly is intensely charismatic and more adaptable to a 2 hour film.<p>All that aside, I'm totally behind a reboot, which this film clearly is. Had it just been some crumby prequel, like Enterprise, I wouldn't have nearly been interested at all; Trek-verse has just become to unwieldy and bloated to command real interest for me.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    they made the Enterprise ON EARTH????????

    by FleshMachine

    fucking ridiculous. this look like teeny bopper shit.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    CeejayNightwing, agreed

    by classyfredblassy

    Unless this one will some how feature the Vulcan Cock Block performed on a womanizing Kirk.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:47 a.m. CST

    yes chien_sale

    by bright boy

    j.j. and bryan singer are either A) the same person or B) were heavily influenced by the same gay porn

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    ..not good

    by JohnnyB

    doesnt look too good :(

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    This movie could definitely suck.

    by Evangelion217

    But I'll still check it out. It can't be any worse then "Angels and Demons." And the CGI looks fantastic. :)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Oh boy...

    by REDD

    YouTube. I think I'll wait for the online HD release (tomorrow). I saw it with QoS yesterday, looks good.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Get a life, you crybaby Trekkies!

    by BrowncoatJedi

    This movie looks terrific. See the trailer in a theatre, not on poopy youtube.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    you mean hetrosexual directors can't be ..

    by Gabba-UK

    influenced by the same straight porn? Damn, there goes my theory about why films always seem to have the same kind of non messy, queit and dull sex scenes these days...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST


    by cripeman

    I flinched a little when he spoke. Looks like Spock but, sounds more delicate.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST

    The More You Trek Nerds Bitch And Moan...

    by Sean38

    ...the more certain I am that Abrams is doing the right thing. If you don't think THAT looks spectacular then you should just stop going to movies. Honestly.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to seeing it on the BIG screen.

    by JDanielP

    I should've just waited.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Oooooffffffffph !

    by TheCap

    I'm a Trekkie from way, WAY back - back so far, it wasn't embarassing to be called a "Trekkie" as yet. I could recite episode dialogue from memory as a kid. I had all the models and books and magazines. I understood Trek-tech from the start and helpd (and continue to help) make so much if it a reality.<br><br>That trailer was unwashed ASS. These kids on screen need to get real jobs and stop annoying the general publich with their "acting". J.J. Abrams had better have bodyguards and good life insurance, because once the real diehards and fanboyys and Trekgeeks see this abomination of a movie, he isn't likely to be safe in his own mother's arms. Thank God I've gorown up and learned not to care about this stuff very much, anymore. That is all.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST

    that took my anticipation down a notch

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    and i was actually looking forward to it, but that really made the movie look bad, dialog, set desing and whats with the voice, why is sylar playing spock always pissed off?<P>he always looks like he angry, thats not spock you heroes faggot <P>on and they obviously didn't go out of the way to cover karl urbans accent and did simon pegg get the job by doing the most catoonish scotish accent he could do? <P>fae it, me and alot of you are gonna see this no matter what, but honestly that was a bad trailer and i really hope the actual movie isn't so terrible and cartoonish <P>P.S....Trek was not in need of a fucking reboot, it needed a new series or characters but not a complete reboot that wipes out over 40 years of continuity, you hackless JJ fag

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Made By REAL fans...Spocks Insignia reversed..

    by The_Greenporker

    Makes me nervous when they can't even make a trailer without reversing a shot to have insignias on the wrong side.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Ill check it out!

    by Judge Briggs

    Look at Sybrows! He looks good at being Spock!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST


    by Ray Gamma

    Somehow I've just realized that Michael Bay is cinema's Antichrist.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST

    anyone see that episode of stargate

    by seekshelter

    where they are trying to make a stargate tv show and they are going through all the scenarios of how it could be made. ...and one of the ideas is to have a young cast playing all the characters... and it just doesn't work? i wasn't against the idea behind this movie because... but after seeing that... i could only think that the guy chosen for kirk is kinda wrong... am i alone in that?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST

    its diificult to know what to make of it

    by robamenta

    really. it could be anything when it is edited that does concern me a bit though, almost like they are trying to cover it a shoit film with fast edits

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:45 a.m. CST

    i meant to say

    by robamenta

    almost like they are trying to cover up a shit film, by cutting it into these fast edits wait so long for a trailer, and i still have no idea about it

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Can everyone stop calling them kids ffs

    by lex romero

    They're all in their late 20s/early 30s. They're not in their teens. They're only a few years younger than Shatner, Nimoy etc were when they started on star trek. In other words, they're the right fucking age in terms of the stories timeline. <br><br> Zachery Quinto is 31. Bruce Willis was 33 when he made Die Hard and no one was shouting about how it was some film starring a kid. <br><br> Is it aiming at a younger audience? Yes definatly. Why? Because the majority of audiences are made up of the teen/20something market. Of course they're trying to appeal to them. In the same why the original series appealed to teens/20somethings when it first aired. Star trek TOS was a shitty sci-fi show, stop holding it up as this wonderous thing. <br><br> Will the film be shit? High chance of that, mainly because it's written by the 'fantastic' writers of transformers and the legend of zorro.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Eric bana sounds like shinzon from nemesis

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    "And i'm not quiteee whate am eye!"

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Abrams has to sell Trek to a Wider Audience

    by victor82

    That's what the Cannon fanatics haven't figured out. However, he didn't have to stock the Enterprise as if Starfleet drafted only the Men of Christopher Street. Jesus! Is there a bathhouse on the Enterprise or what?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    I likey

    by kafka07

    I think the car thing in the beginning was a bit dumb, but everything after that was really cool. I can't wait for some Kirk on Spock action. Wait, that sounded hek I don't even care! :)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    kid at the beggining was a bit...

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    "i'm a person and my name is anakin"<P>i wonder if he will call Uhura a space angel..he hears the space pirates talk about them you know

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    So, 13 year old Kirk drives a 67' Vette

    by MasterShake

    And the Enterprise is built in a corn field in Iowa. I guess they launch it into space with leftover Saturn V rockets.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Paramount should call it what it is a complete Reboot

    by InActionMan

    My problem with ignoring so much “Cannon” is not that Trek is some sacred text that cannot be changed it is that it is lazy writing. There a plenty of great story ideas that come from TOS that would make for a great movie prequel. <P> Let’s see the holocaust on Tarsus IV where Kirk’s family was executed by “Kodos the Executioner”. Let’s see young Kirk and his childhood friend Thomas Leighton try to rescue their families and Leighton getting half his face blown off in the process. Maybe they could be rescued by Vulcans which would explain Kirk’s affection for Vulcans in general and Spock in particular. <P> I want to see Finnegan giving Kirk shit at Starfleet Academy. <P> I want to see Kirk’s friendship with Gary Mitchell before he flips out with superpowers from “Where No Man Has Gone Before”. <P> I want to see the moment where Kirk hesitated as a young officer and something happened that Kirk feels guilt over that is hinted at but, never explained in a conversation between Kirk and McCoy in the turbo lift in “The Corbomite Maneuver.” <P> Having the whole crew the same age and graduating from Starfleet Academy and being posted to Enterprise together is not believable. Why not have them posted to different ships. April is in command of Enterprise, Pike is in command of a second ship and Kirk is posted to USS Republic or USS Faragut. There is a big space battle Faragut and Republic are destroyed. Enterprise is damaged. April is wounded and many of Enterprises crew are killed. Pike takes command of Enterprise and the surviving crews of Republic and Faragut are rescued and become the Enterprise crew we have come to know and love. Later Pike is disabled and Kirk takes command of Enterprise so he can have his big hero moment. At the end of the movie let Pike recover and take permanent command of Enterprise. Save Kirk taking command of Enterprise for a sequel so Pike and Spock can go to Talos IV and have their “Menagerie” adventure. <P> Making the Romulans the villains causes all kinds of continuity problems with the plot point from “Balance of Terror” that no one knows until that episode that Romulans look like Vulcans. Why not make the Klingons the Villains? It saves a lot of continuity problems. You know that Kirk and Nero are going to have their Mano-a Mano showdown. How do you explain Kirk’s surprise that Romulans look like Vulcans in “Balance of Terror” if they have seen each other up close? <P> I don’t have a problem with a Trek “Reboot” if that is what Paramount wants to do. But, Paramount wants to have it both ways. J.J., Orci and company are going around claiming that the new movie is cannon when it clearly is not. Putting Nimoy in the movie is a cheap gimmick. They don’t want to piss off the existing fans, but that is what they are going to do. I would rather they be honest and say what EJO said about the new Galactica. “This is a complete reboot. If you don’t like that don’t watch it.”

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Sorry, Romero, but they ARE kids

    by moondoggy2u

    Sure, back in the day, Kirk and co were in their thirties, but they all looked and acted about ten years older than the cast that we are seeing in the trailer. As for Bruce only being 31, well, he looked like a guy who was about 40. Again, the cast in this film does look like a bunch of metro-sexuals compared to the original cast. I mean, just look at who is playing scottie now and compare him to vintage Doohan, for crying out loud! Look at vintage Shatner v. whoever-the-hell-WB-actor-of-the-week. They act like kids. They appear to be kids. And judging by their faces being absolutely devoid of character lines, I would say they ARE kids, too.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Seriously, how could anyone not like that?

    by Pdorwick

    Jesus, sometimes us fanboys crawl so far up our own asses we forget why we're fanboys in the first place. This really looks like the Star Trek we've all been waiting for. Jesus, open your eyes...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    "the more certain I am that Abrams is doing the right thing"

    by palewook

    "If you don't think THAT looks spectacular then you should just stop going to movies." <p> yeah it looks like anyone that thought Transformers was great will enjoy the Trek reboot. <P> as for not going to movies if you can't enjoy an obtuse piece of fluff, nah. there are plenty of solid movies out there, not made for people under the age of 15 or below an IQ of 90. <p> there's plenty of choices for all of us.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    "Seriously, how could anyone not like that"

    by palewook

    it looks like the Nemesis meets Transformers. gratz if that makes you happy. <p> my expectations were so low for this thing, it won't bother me whether it sucks or rocks.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Simon pegg a metrosexual?!

    by lex romero

    "the cast in this film does look like a bunch of metro-sexuals compared to the original cast. I mean, just look at who is playing scottie now and compare him to vintage Doohan, for crying out loud!" Lmao. I can understand where you're coming from with the guy playing kirk but pegg a metro-sexual WB teen star? Are we looking at the same person?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Yes, Romero. Granted I'm lumping in wimps with metros

    by moondoggy2u

    but frankly, I don't see the difference. Doohan in his prime was a man. Pegg? Some wimpy looking doofus.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    The sweaty Kirk sex scene...

    by MisterE

    The sweaty Kirk sex scene looks like it could be part of a Spock Ponn Farr dream sequence (though the new Kirk looks like a bottom and not a topper). It'll end with a Photon Torpedo exploding in the background when they climax. <p> Just imagine the forthcoming action figures...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST

    They're still using gas powered vehicals?

    by Xiphos_2

    In the future? Plus wasn't there a big war? and they still have 60's era Vettes?<p>Kurtzman and Orci wrote this it probably won't be good. Those two ass clowns blow goats as writers. Maybe since MI 3, JJ Abrahms learned how to direct.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    That 270 year old Corvette was fast !!!

    by Bill Clay

    It's lucky that the Auto Museum that Baby Kirk stole the 'vette from kept it's tank full of gas all those years.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST


    by fisheater

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    All this talk of the actors' looks aside

    by moondoggy2u

    I'm still champing at the bit to watch this film. For me, so long as the cast evokes the same feelings and ideas as the original cast, I'm all for it. Yeah, the characters look different, speak a bit differently, and probably will act differently, but it seems like the "spirit" of TOS is on the screen, which is good enough for me. Again, its a reboot--the table settings are supposed to be a bit different. <p>As for the complaints I'm hearing about this show relating to the lowest common denominator, all I can say is that, time and again, the original Trek did the same. Yes, there were the thought provoking portions of Trek that made nerds cream in their jeans, but there was also plenty of other, campier, melodramatic elements, too. So far, I'm liking what I see.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    If theres a Magic Box, refer to JJ's TED lecture

    by fisheater

    Ill kick his ass, Im sick SICK of the magic box. Lost, MI3, he keeps going with this magic box shit. I know the girls box is magic but man i know whats in it, its people. My girls box is people, babies and ill kill every one of them

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST

    still say it looks cool

    by brandon11

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Moondoggy2U unfortunantly

    by Xiphos_2

    Hollywood is the overwaxed capital of metrosexuality. If somebody like Lee Marvin or his generation came around today, they would be rejected for not being "manly" as defined by the new Hollywood standard.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Looks like fun Sci Fi -

    by Charlie_Allnut

    We haven't had a big glorious fun Sci Fi adventure in a while. But I'm not really a Trek fan so I'm not freaking out about the details...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    I like it!

    by milesdyson

    I hope spock and kirk have an epic fist fight that spills out into every part of the ship.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Tell me about it, Xiphos.

    by moondoggy2u

    I've pretty much resigned myself to endure "soft" actors nowadays, too. Still, there are brighter spots, such as Crowe, Hamm, and, to a lesser extent, Jackman.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    But where's the fucking Squid???

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    No Trek Squid.<BR><BR>No Peace.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Yeah, but Kirk had better pull a "double-fist"

    by moondoggy2u

    to Spock's spine. That's the only way to take Spock down! Well, pottery to the head seems to work, too, but thats only if Spock has a beard.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    laughing at all the nerd rage

    by wash

    YOU, HAVE YOU EVER KISSED A GIRL? <br><br> It looks alright. I can't buy someone as young looking being a captain of a big ass space ship, but whatevs. No Star Trek movie is ever going to change your life, so whiners should stop acting like they are entitled to full script and cast approval.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:55 a.m. CST

    This will and must reinvigorate TREK

    by Jodet

    Trek is D-E-A-D. Ok? DEAD. DEAD, DEAD, DEAD. If this film does not restart this franchise it is OVER. So it can't be the same old shit, ok??????? Because we've had 40 years of that and it's pretty ripe. So, yes, it's going to be different. IT MUST BE. I think it looks great and it MUST BE DIFFERENT. So I'm glad. I'd like to be watching new TREK is 20 years, and if I am I'll have J.J. to thank for it. You know it's true.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    funny enough... I liked it

    by MurderMostFowl

    I am a huge hater of all things JJ abrams and StarTrek: The Next Reboot. I am a rabid TOS, TNG and DN9 fan, didn't hate Voyager, and serve as a pretty good apologist for Enterprise. 8-) <BR> I *hated* the idea of this and still may come out hating it, but right now with this trailer, I'm at least going to give it a chance. I liked it. The Kirk scene was handled *far* worse than I thought when I read about it last week here. I'll leave that for another post. <BR> I have a feeling that they're trying to reinvent the genre like BSG did, but the problem they have here with ST is: <BR><BR> BSG did not have a real living fanbase like ST does. With BSG you had people who had fond memories of a long dead series. Changing Star Trek is going to be alot tougher sell. <BR> I wish they had actually just gone for a crew in the same time period, rather than the TOS crew themselves. it may still work, but you're basically *forcing* people to go in with a critical eye, where they didn't need to.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11 a.m. CST


    by photoboy

    Nothing in there was particularly exciting. What was the point of this movie again?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    I just hope that this sucker...

    by Gabba-UK

    makes $400million domestic and same again international. That way the hardcore can realize that true to canon Trek is in fact outdated, dull and out of step with 21st century thinking and can go back to giving each other reach arounds while dressed as Romulans, singing Klingon opera and fiddling with their deluxe tricorder toy behind closed doors at their silly conventions. While the rest of us normal fans can carry on enjoying Trek for it's positive message and sense of fun while never taking it too seriously. And you wonder why Star Trek fans have a reputation for being obsesive about detail... Can't you just be happy that Paramount are finally giving Star Trek the budget and attention that you've demanded all these years? If the film sucks because it has a crap story then I'll slag it off with the rest of you. But I will not rail against it because the Enterprise has chrome bits, the cast is 'metrosexual' (whatever the fuck that really means), the uniforms are the wrong shade of blue, Scotty has a 'cartoon' accent (did you hear Doohan's accent the same way I did??!!), the doors don't sound shushy enough, or whatever other banile, stupid, OCD standard reason your going to give to bitch about, for a film that isn't out for another 6 months!!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST


    by Fing Fang Foom


  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Why are people whining about the age of the actors?

    by Dangerousapple

    Shatner and Nemoy were 35 when Star Trek began, Pine and Quinto are 28 and 31 respectively. Whining on about their aga is almost the same as saying as saying Shatner and Nemoy were too young way back then.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Just Say "

    by WriteFromLeft

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Just Say "No" To ShakeyCam

    by WriteFromLeft

    Note to J.J. Abrams. Buy a tripod. The visual style makes a lot of your audience motion sick, including me, and I won't see another one of your films until your style grows up.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Put the TEEN in the STINO

    by kabong

    Splash some moving colors on the screen. Pump up the volume. Throw in the usual suspects. Yes, master, JarJar serves up another mess.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Hey at least Young Uhura...

    by Kid Z

    ...takes her top off! It almost scrubs the horrible memory of 65 year old Uhura doing a striptease in Trek 5.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    and yes...

    by Gabba-UK

    I do feel better getting that of my chest!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:18 a.m. CST

    See it in the theater

    by I Own You

    First gen trekkie here (yeah, I said Trekkie) and I was concerned about what I read on this site and others. Hated some of the pics and was pleasantly surprised by the new Enterprise. That said, I saw this trailer on the screen before Quantum of Boredom and the crowd was SCREAMING! It's so much better on the big screen among real people.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    I'm totally with you Gabba

    by moondoggy2u

    Star Trek nerds really do need to tone down the hate. It isn't like there are flames on the goddamned Enterprise or that Kirk is suddenly saying things like "my bad."

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    The only people who will hate the cast...

    by ZeroCorpse

    Are old fuckers who got attached to TOS in the 60s, 70s, and early 80s. Anyone under 30 is going to go for this because they never had any attachment to the original cast, and they probably never even saw the original episodes, but saw all the movies starring all those old guys. <p> I'm well over 30, but I'm willing to give this a chance because I think Trek needs the youth, the time period of TOS, and the simplicity of TOS costuming, ideals, and action. I hated Voyager, wasn't overly fond of DS9 from about halfway through, and fucking hated Enterprise (in name only) even though I'm a huge Bakula fan. Everything B&B touched eventually turned to shit. They technobabbled their way out of every episode. They pushed skin-tight costumes on girlfriends instead of solid plots. They turned every enemy race into pussies. They Made Trek feel like a Disney Channel show. <p> If Abrams can put some of the kickass back into Trek, I'm all for it.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    New Take?

    by ChezKing

    I've never been a big fan, but have always kinda liked Star Trek. This doesn't look bad, it just looks like a new and different take on the characters. I don't understand why Spock is showing emotion the way he is. I don't think that was a good move for them. His look and personality (or lack thereof) is pretty iconic. But this really looks like a fun movie.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST

    This trailer is exactly what Trek needs right now.

    by Dangerousapple

    The trailer tells us next to nothing about the characters and plot, but that's fine. It's still early. A trailer later on can deal with that. This trailer shows the new film to be the antithesis to everything people think is lame about Trek. You know, small stories set in an antiseptic universe, with a bunch of old guys technobabbling at each other. This trailer is all about the epic, the reality, youth and action. Those elements alone don’t make a good film, but at this stage of the marketing push – they can enthuse the mainstream audience. I also like the way this film panders to the hardcore (James Tiberius Kirk, OMG! The enterprise being build, HOLY SHIT!) while at the same time not pushing away people who are discriminating towards the name Star Trek (James Tiberius Kirk, sounds vaguely familiar, who’s that again? Hey! They’re building something over there. Wow, big action set pieces! What film is this? Wait, the title is coming on. STAR TREK?!? Really? Hmm, might give it a go). Remember back in the eighties when a Star Trek film would land in the year’s top ten spot of best grossing pictures? It can be that way again.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST


    by Die_Hardest

    kind of disappointing

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST


    by Die_Hardest

    kind of disappointing

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    This may come as a shock to some of you...

    by miss_marples

    ...but your opinions don't matter. At all.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Allow me to add to the Jar Jar Abrams dogpile...

    by EverythingEverywhereStinks

    The trailer lived up to every single lowered expectation I've had for this Frankenturd project since it was first announced that the Bespeckeled Golden Boy and his assmonkeys were going to be responsible for it. Clearly, this is what Star Trek needs to do to must cater to asswipes, douchebags, and the lowest common denominator who breathe with their mouths open. The writing must be at a fourth grade level and all character motivations must be no greater that what you'd see in a McDonald's commercial. So it looks like, in spite of many major missteps, the Star Wars franchise still retains the crown of geekdom, if for nothing else because it remained true to itself after 30+ years. Trek, on the other hand, has become it's own punchline and is doomed. Space monkeys rejoice!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:31 a.m. CST


    by I Own You

    I just re-watched the trailer and from the quick quote from Urban, I think they have 'Bones' down to a tee.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    yeah, i said it

    by Die_Hardest


  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Go Gabba Gabba! Well said

    by u.k. star

    Oh and...... "why is sylar playing spock always pissed off" When did you see the film?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Brought to you by the same men..

    by conspiracy

    who gave you "My Bad" pissing robots and a television series they all but admit they do not have a definite ending for and have "lost" interest in. This is Trek for High School drop outs and Mountain Dew Swillers; for people who watch NASCAR and believe the words of politicians; for people who can't wait till the next Fast and Furious, Listen to The Pussycat Dolls, and whom think the SW prequels are better than the Original Trilogy. Unless they are hiding some seriously good dialog and plot behind all the quick cut CGI wanksterism and skin..I won't even bother to steal this off of Limewire.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Re : ZeroCorpse

    by Real Deal

    Well I'm an old fucker! Older than you ( 55 )! I've been watching ST since day one of the franchise. I think this movie will be great! ST during the Berman days was done to death in a certain way. What ST needs is a shot in the arm. Something new. Rebooting can do this. Rebooting could make it relevent again. You know that thing Roddenberry was always trying to incorporate into it. So instead of spinning in his grave as some short sighted people have suggested I think he would be applauding this!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Real Deal..What Trek needed to do was go away

    by conspiracy

    Not be rebooted into some low brow 21st Century teen angst, skin laden, "action packed",cgi circle jerk. It should have laid dormant for 20 years and been reborn when people once again have an attention span longer than that of the average house cat.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Preach it, Real Deal

    by moondoggy2u

    I'm 45 and feel the same way you do. As for the supposedly high standards of "The Great Bird," people need to remember that Gene was pushing Star Trek: Kennedy Assassination for EVERY Star Trek sequel.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Shatner Is Going To Hate This More than Sulu

    by A-COD

    The beginning of the trailer is embarrassing. It reminds me of the Speed Racer trailer. Kirk deserves better.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST

    The potential major problem with ST is Orci and Kurtzman

    by Xiphos_2

    Nothing else bothers me except for those two clowns. I'll even cut JJ some slack. I figure he can't suck as bad as he did directing MI 3. I'll blame that on the antichrists of talent Orci and Kurtzman.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Re: I Own You (cool nick by the way!)

    by Dangerousapple

    I agree that line from Urban pretty much nails Bones (now there's an odd sentence!). The trailer also has Scottys trademark enthusiasm and optimism. I also like that they're showing Spock's anger more. It's a different interpretation to Vulcans than before, but one that fits well with their back-story. Also, I like that the Kirk in this trailer is a bit more like the Kirk that fanboys rave about. You know: “the dude that punches an alien out cold, goes home and fucks a green bitch". I always thought the Kirk from the fanboy arguments was ultimately way cooler than the Kirk from a random episode of the week. All that still tells us next to nothing about the characters (you know; their motivations, angst, personal journey, etc.) but so far so good.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    At the end of the day

    by kwisatzhaderach

    it's all about the writing. And this film is written by Kurtzman and Orci. The film is doomed.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Star Trek is now better than Star Wars

    by A G


  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Looks okay.

    by mrfan

    Easy to have great special effects nowdays. Not worried about that. The one thing that will make me like it is the interaction of the characters. I hope the actors/actresses do a good job. The writing will be the one thing that makes or breaks this movie for me.<p>If this movie is successful, I do hope that a new series will make it back on tv in some shape or form. Miss seeing any version of ST on a weekly basis.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST

    not enough thought..


    sorry, the writers here BUTCHERED transformers. BUTCHERED IT. and theyll do the same with this.<p><p><P>MY NAME IS JAMES TIBERIUS KIRK! <P><P><P>what person talks like that? and what person with half a brain being chased by the cops gives his full name including middle name?<P><P>Spock.. exactly what I feared, on the surface Quinto looks remotely like Leonard Nimoy. His ACTING however isn't what Spocks is supposed to be at all. There is way more emotion in his eyes and expression. I would have suggested they found an actor that didn't even LOOK like Nimoy but looked specifically found an actor that could play that part. I don't feel they did that well enough.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST


    by A G

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Saw the Trailer last night

    by bobjustbob

    My girlfriend said "Looks like STAR TREK for TRANSFORMERS fans." We both hated TRANSFORMERS.<p>Hoping for the best but still a skeptic... (My concerns are not about canon, it's about JJ and Kurtzman and Orci. Not a fan of any of their work.)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Jesus Titty-Fucking Christ

    by Jodet

    Do Star Trek fans suck. All this whining, Christ, it's ridiculous. The hottest director in hollywood is going to spend a hundred and fifty million dollars reinvigorating your dead series and what do you do? Bitch, bitch, bitch. Grow the fuck up.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Looks cool enough, but....

    by Zandunga

    ...the guy saying the core problem are Kurtzman and Orci is completely right. Forget MI3, how about The Island (shit), Transformers (lame shit made only marginally cool by CG robots fighting), and Zorro 2 (excruciating shit). These guys cant suddenly pull a wonderful script out of their ass after a slew of turds.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:27 p.m. CST

    It's ALMOST on Apple...

    by Anti-fanboy

    There's a non-functioning link up, anyway.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I'm on the 'meh' side of the fence

    by Cat_Corporation

    The beginning bit with the kid just made me laugh out loud. I'm sorry but the jock-like, hairless prettiness of the actors is really grating on me. And before you ask, NO, I'm not an old balding male Trek fan (as some of your are suggesting), I'm a 30-yr old woman. It really does look like Hollyoaks in Space (that's a crap UK teen soap, for any non-UK talkbackers).

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST

    LOL - it's a Haters Convention

    by blhotz

    I wondered where a lot of you have been. Looks like their is a viral campaing for this link sent to the Haters and Cry-Babbies world wide. There's this thing called smiling, Fellas, you should try it! This movie looks awesome and definitely energiezes Trek again!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Re : conspiracy

    by Real Deal

    Uh no. What you don't even begin to get is that ST is such an open ended idea they haven't even scratched the surface of it's potential yet. Funny I didn't get any of your take on this from watch the trailer but I guess it's all in how open your mind is. Somehow I think being a fan of ST is about having an open mind. I predict this movie will do well and all the nay sayers will be eating crow by the time this is over! I don't know if you were around during the last hiatus 69' to 79' but this has all been discussed before. It came back stronger than before. Long live Star Trek! The thing is it's an open ended concept. If you've read any of Roddenberry's stuff on the subject you'd know that.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:33 p.m. CST

    These guys wrote MI:3 and Transformers?

    by Octaveaeon

    oh dear...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Haha..That looks like absolute SHIT

    by SomaShine

    "ok here's how we're going to update Star Trek..with mustangs, and motorcycles and T & A"

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    other than the ships, names and Spock

    by the milf lover

    this looks almost nothing like usual Trek. So it's looking pretty good! <p> Well okay, it doesnt look that good, but not bad either. But I guess since my favorite Trek are First Contact and Voyager, my opinion is obsolete in this discussion. <p>At least this trailer is stirring more interst in me than the lameass Watchmen one...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Spock pulls out his Pon farr and....

    by banditmania

    Kirk and Sulu fight over it.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST

    I just learned this is from the writers of Transformers, which m

    by Dangerousapple

    ...Transformers had WRITERS?! What the fuck did they write? That movie was all about Michael Bay jacking off.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    I'll see that any day over phantom menace.

    by Se7en

    Kirk ! Spock ! Enterprise ! Drama ! Action ! .. and by the way naysayers.. THIS AINT YOUR DADDY'S STAR TREK. GOT THAT ? I rejoice the REBOOT ! Beam me up !

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    waaay too early to have an opinion

    by demzer

    Based on two minutes. We just have no way of knowing. All we really know for sure at this point is that they're TRYING to take some risks, while not throwing our Trek memories out the window--and for that I give them kudos. It sure as hell will have better visuals and be more dynamic than anything we've seen for a while. But you know, Roddenberry's vision of an enlightened humanity out in the stars kind of evolved later, anyway...TOS had more flesh, kissing, fistfights and melodrama than anything else on TV at the time. The censors kept pulling them back. That's not exactly Buddhas in Space. In his own words it was "Wagon Train to the Stars" and Horatio Hornblower in Space, not "Kung Fu," grasshopper. As to the writers' and the cast's may be a detriment as far as depth of writing and acting goes, but again, how would we know yet? Abrams shows one thing so far, with all his hits and misses-- GUTS. And that might be the most potent thing Star Trek needs. It's the fanboys that emasculated the series, with all the kinds of bitching we've seen in this talkback. It made the writers terrified of taking any kind of risks. So, with all due respect, shut the fuck up and wait for the movie.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    I've supported this blindly, but.....

    by dr sauch

    That was...underwhelming. Shit.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    one more thing

    by demzer

    Arguing about topics like whether Spock shows too much emotion is ridiculous...who knows what the context is yet? They're showing that on purpose just to get everyone up a lather. As another poster pointed out, Spock lost his shit--for specific reasons--all the time on TOS.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:13 p.m. CST

    This movie will suck

    by FSJGuy

    Vulcan is the wrong shade of red!!! It was shown in TOS and it looks different here, therefor its Space 90210.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST


    by Wrecks

    I've been watching trek since I was but a wee lad in the early 70s. Watched every episode of every series multiple times, including the aniumated series. No, I do not dress up in a starfleet uniform and attend the fests... but I have been a pretty hardcore fan my entire life and I have to say... It Looks Fantastic! It's pop-sci-fi people! Always has been! Sure they've thrown in moralilty tales and tried to find a deeper truth to the human condition, But it's Pop and it always has been. This one seems like it will capture than more than the last 3 series combined! I just hope they completely skip over Enterprise, the same way they skipped T3 for the Sarah Conner Chronicles. Looks flashy and Bold. Gene would be proud.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Never mind...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    the game-changer is coming. Dec 19th 2009.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Gene wouldn't be proud, because there's two absolute hacks writing the film. He'd probably be outraged.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Car crash...

    by Fortunesfool

    That was bad on soooo many levels. Abrams is a vacuous TV director backed up by his vacuous writing mates. He has no cinematic imagination at all. Expect Star Trek to enter the shaky-cam generation with all the banality that brings with it.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Car crash...

    by Fortunesfool

    That was bad on soooo many levels. Abrams is a vacuous TV director backed up by his vacuous writing mates. He has no cinematic imagination at all. Expect Star Trek to enter the shaky-cam generation with all the banality that brings with it.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Well...I think the Michael Bay kids'll be happy with that

    by Adrian Marcato

    Let's face it, Star Trek has never been a big 'action' franchise, as action was always a secondary result from plot and the overarching quest for knowledge often mired in politics. So, I imagined that Star Trek's ideas could be transferred to a big summer vehicle and blend action on a 'Star Wars' level scale. However, the approach to Kirk here is the main area of my concern, the character seems manipulated to fit the mold of a modern action hero, an archetype that is sadly out of date. I have a feeling that every character will be manipulated poorly...but there is one overall assurance that still drives my interest in this film, it's not Abrams, but he seems like enough of a geek to understand the realm of Star Trek to not completely destroy it. That one reason is Damon Lindeloff, who I trust above any other writer today to understand the mindset of us obsessive fans who post unneccessary talkbacks here, and who to my knowledge loves Star Trek. With him serving as a producer, I am more inclined to see this film than if only Abrams had been involved. But...Then Robert Orci and Alex Kurtzman come up and I say...this could be pretty bad.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Re : kwisatzhaderach

    by Real Deal

    The same 3 people are responsible for " Fringe ". A program I like alot! After seeing their work there I stopped worrying about this movie. I think Gene would be proud because he was always forward looking. Not stuck in a rut.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Oh yay.

    by Boromir

    Because what the world needs is yet another slick teens-who-aren't-really-teens melodrama. Fox/The WB/UPN/The CW just haven't adequately supplied that market. The general "style" of these productions is going to make The Brady Bunch look like a timeless classic in a few years.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Outside of a few notable exceptions, has Trek ever really been t

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    Most fans would hold Wrath of Khan as the epitome of Trek translated to the big screen, but that's because the director said, "we've got Horatio Hornblower, here." Focusing on the military aspects of Trek flew in the face of what Roddenberry originally envisioned. Without seeing any of this trailer stuff in context, I think it's a little early to start throwing out whether or not it'll be good or bad storytelling. If JJ does what Nicholas Meyer did, it may be a great flick.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Since when do they have cliffs like that in Iowa?

    by wookie1972

    Or are they pissing on one of the most endearing parts of Trek lore? (I say that because my folks are from Iowa). I was ready to give this the benefit of the doubt, but it really, really doesn't work for me. The "adult" Kirk looks all of 17, and in general it has the wrong feel, imho. Otoh, at the beginning, if you didn't know any better, wouldn't you think it might be Ender's Game?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Bridge on the Captain

    by Jodet

    Do you think J.J. will do worse than the idiot clowns who have been running this franchise into the ground for fifteen years? Killing Captain Kirk by dropping a bridge on him? What the FUCK WAS THAT ABOUT????? This is a FRESH START, it's like a miracle. We can forget all the Trek BAD DECISIONS for the last TWENTY YEARS. It's a dream come true.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Orci is deffinitely the wild card in this thing

    by moondoggy2u

    Given his background, there is sufficient reason to be, well, scared out of our freaking gords, but there is no denying that the trailer seems to possess more energy than Star Trek has EVER had since "The Best of Both Worlds."

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Looks cool to me

    by ls420

    but then again...I am open minded and give anything a try...some of you cocksmokers here should try that once in awhile.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    I'm So Glad...

    by Sean38

    ...I don't share the mindset of losers who don't think that's balls to the wall great. You hated the BSG reinvention...before you saw it. You hated Heath Ledger as The Joker...before you saw him. And you hate this, too, because it's the campy acting in front of a cardboard rock you fondly remember from your youth. If you think that trailer suck, it's pretty clear that it is YOU that sucks and that you're the type that's happier hating things than loving things. In other words, the stereotypical AICN talkbacker.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Yes, Sean38

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    Faith in anything, be it Jesus or the Tooth Fairly or Star Trek, doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Something put on such a high pedestal cannot possibly be enjoyed in the retelling by those who put it there.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    N'ah, It Sucks & Abrahms/Orci/Etc. Blow Monkey Balls

    by Wonderthump

    This is Star Trek for the same pudfuckers who yell "Go Team!" or dress up in tightfitting homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that) gear, pat each other on the ass, get into big humping pile ups at football games, and shower together, yet persecute the gays. This is Star Trek for that pasty ass hat who glares at you from behind the counter at Abercrombie and Fitch, that potatopounder who serves you at Applefuckingbees. Anyone with half a brain will avoid this tripe except for the dweeby types who can't wait to get it for free from the library. Eat shit, Abrahms!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    I've only ever been a casual Star Trek fan, but this looks pants, as the Brits would say. I can say with very little emotional attachment that this just doesn't look very good.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Some good some bad

    by flossygomez

    Truly, I thought the car chase at the beginning was a Coke commercial. The Cops foot stepping into frame was excessively cheesy. The trench that young Kirk falls into is OBVIOUSLY some kind of mined trench. The whole TOS crew getting together down to the very last character is stretching credulity. Trek storylines choose the Time Travel option WAY too often. On the Spock showing emotions debacle, Kirk has always known exactly what buttons to push in Spock to put him over the edge so that's all right. That's probably what makes them such good friends. Spock respects Kirks insight into people and what makes them tick. As far as Uhura showing her lingerie and Kirk humping away, as long as it's pertinent to the characters who cares? All they need to do is get the Kirk-Spock-McCoy Triad right and the rest I'll let go. Bones being the constant navel gazer and Kirks conscience and Spock doing the cold calculations in stark contrast to McCoys sometimes timid hang wringing. Some of the best dialogue in the TOS series was 2 or 3 of these characters sitting down in a plain room on the Enterprise and discussing the philosophical ramifications of their actions. I hope the writers didn't leave that out, if they did Star Trek is "Lost".

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Media messiah your being paranoid again.

    by Smashing

    I was one of the peeps who put the trailer on YouTube and I am unemployed, so blame I not some plants. I am all for a new Trek, its hardly been quality output since it was oh yeah cancelled, has it?<P>

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Chris Pine looks like...

    by Lord John Whorfin

    a really young Brian Cox. I was watching Deadwood S3 last night and it's weird how similar they look to each other. I don't know, it looks like Star Trek through a Top Gun filter, which isn't a good thing.

  • No way was it intentionally written like that but a lucky break karmically.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:24 p.m. CST

    flashbacks of lost in space.


    we were all excited with the glossy previews, and then it was utter shit.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    The Phantom Menace trailer was good too

    by Franco Begbie

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST thanks.

    by thecomedian

    The whole reason the berman era sucked was because they took the brains out of Star Trek. Gene's whole message about the human condition. Science Fiction as opposed to mindless "Sci-Fi". As silly as the original series may seem at times with it's Hippy planets and Nazi planets and Native American planets etc. it still had the ability to make you think, to make you want to be a better person to give us a hopeful view of what our future could one day be. I figured THAT would be the whole reason to bring Trek back to that era. This just looks like an underwhelming costume party. Yeah, and just as underwhelming in the action department as all the crappy post next gen shows and movies. But it might just be that it's was a shitty 1st trailer. They need to put it up in Quicktime already. But still, I'm not exactly floored by this thing as is. I DOES remind me of the Star Wars prequels but not in a good way.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Hell Yeah, That's floatin my boat!

    by KillaKane

    Rev'd up but with the familiarity of the original show, looking forward to this quite a bit after that.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    That's interesting, but check out:

    by ufoclub1977 my homemade doritos commercial (only 30 seconds long)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    This isn't a talkback, it's a huge fucking garden!

    by Mr. Nix

    How much does plant posting pay? I could use a few extra bucks.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    The one group of geeks more whiny than Star Wars

    by Larry of Arabia

    are the Trekkers. And I admit to being one of them. Still, I'm not about to pass judgment on anything based on a short teaser trailer, especially one where we see none of the character work. They are trying to make the mass audience go "hmm, that looks cooler than the last few Star Treks." Seems to be working. As a fan of the characters I'll wait till I see more of them.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    JJ Abrams thank you for SAVING Star Trek....

    by j2talk

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nix: Agree, If They Pay Me I'll Be A Plant Too!!!

    by Media Messiah

    Man have the plants come out n the last few days. They are everywhere and I don't recognize most of their sign on names, as names that I have ever seen before, the clearest sign that they are studio plants!!! Hey guys, since you are playing that game, pay me and Nix and will go plant also!!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Saw Quantum of Solace...No Star Trek trailer

    by darquelyte

    I feel misled and slightly ripped off. No Star Trek trailer and no Watchmen trailer at my showing of QofS. I got a bunch of trailers for movies from Columbia pictures though.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Smashing: Have You Noticed Nobody Order The Trailer Pulled???

    by Media Messiah

    I won't dispute your story, and I don't know how you got the trailer, but somebody at Paramount wanted you to have it...or they would have demanded that You Tube pull the video and threated various web sites like AICN wth a court order telling them to remove the video from their sites, hence, this is all one big studio approved leak.<BR><BR>More proof, is the fact that it has been 3 days now and nothing has been done to stop it and the official studio approved trailer...with a cleaner resolution has not been offered up to the internet or television media??? So clearly, they want this thing to appear fan driven and controlled as if it is a unauthorized leak, which it is not!!! Past history should inform all of us that Paramount's lawyer would have hit everybody involved with a "Cease And Desist Order" by now, including you. PLANT, PLANT, PLANT!!! Now, tell Paramount to cut me a check too, and I'll gladly shut-up about it!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Amended--Smashing: Have You Noticed Nobody Ordered The Trailer P

    by Media Messiah

    I won't dispute your story, and I don't know how you got the trailer, but somebody at Paramount wanted you to have it...or they would have demanded that You Tube pull the video and threated various web sites like AICN wth a court order telling them to remove the video from their sites, hence, this is all one big studio approved leak.<BR><BR> More proof, is the fact that it has been 3 days now and nothing has been done to stop it and the official studio approved trailer...with a cleaner resolution has not been offered up to the internet or television media??? So clearly, they want this thing to appear fan driven and controlled as if it is a unauthorized leak, which it is not!!! Past history should inform all of us that Paramount's lawyer would have hit everybody involved with a "Cease And Desist Order" by now, including you. PLANT, PLANT, PLANT!!! Now, tell Paramount to cut me a check too, and I'll gladly shut-up about it!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST


    by medicinaluser

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!

    by medicinaluser

    Is going on in this talkback, have never seen so many newfucks crop up to defend such shit.<BR><BR> Not cool at all it is obviously a major plant invasion and someone needs to get the banhammer out.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST

    I'm surprised how much I liked that.

    by Royston Lodge

    I didn't expect to enjoy that, but it was pretty decent.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    The Enterprise looks strangely...

    by StarWarsRedux

    ...modern. Way too bright, way too sleek. Doesn't really match the look of the original series at all, to my casual-observer eyes.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    TOO SOON!!!

    by sleepytones

    way too soon to make another star trek movie.. the memories are too painful as of yet

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Real Deal..Open Minded is one thing..

    by conspiracy

    but what I'm seeing in this trailer is demanding a wide open asshole for Orci, Kurtzman and JJ whats his name to pound their fists into. It isn't a reboot, or a re-imagining, this is a rape of everything that came before. Someone above said it looked like Star Trek for Transformers fans, and I could not agree more. It looks like WB or Fox television show...the trailer even felt like a TV ad. Just Horrible.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Oh..I KNOW you are reading this Orci...

    by conspiracy

    Fuck You! Fuck you and your partner for your horrible scripts. If it wasn't for the copious head you give as a perk of your script writing duties no director or producer in Hollywood would hire you. I've read Fan Fiction that was deeper and more polished. You sir are the Gold Standard of Hacks.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    blah, blah, blah.

    by Mistahtibbs

    <p>You're all going to see it.</p> <p>Admit it, bitches.</p> MT

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Spock's ears are too pointy

    by disfigurehead

    and his shirt is too blue.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Way to go, disfigurehead!

    by bravogolfhotel

    You win the thread.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Re : conspiracy

    by Real Deal

    " this is a rape of everything that came before " Ha! HA! LOL! By who's standard? I'd be willing to bet I've been a fan longer than you ( 1966 day one I'm 55 ) and I don't see it that way. What Roddenberry would be spinning in his grave over is the lack of open mindedness of all the negativity I'm reading here! " Wah! The set's too white! Wah! They're too young! Wah! it's being written by the same guys who wrote Tranformers ( as if that had any relevance here ). Wah! you raped my childhood! ( Well it's not just your childhood bucko and I'm just fine with it ). " Geez the reasoning I'm reading here is hystercal!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Looks great.

    by Devil'sOwn

    Seriously, just the thing to save crusty old Trek from extinction.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:39 p.m. CST


    by Out of your element

    fuck the haters...this will be the best trek movie since First Contact, and probably much better than that.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    "Fuck you, haters. This isn't your dad's Star Trek."

    by Die_Hardest

    I happen to like my dad's Star Trek. It was an intelligent show that metaphorically dissected universal issues. There weren't enough tits though.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    You're absolutely right, Die_Hardest.

    by Devil'sOwn

    TOS is a beloved classic for exacly the reason you cited. Honestly though, I've always been more of a leg man. So I'll take those yummilicious miniskirts over some blatant titties any day.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Star Trek Babies!

    by brobdingnag

    Wow this looks like ass. The good news is that Trek is absolutely dead as a franchise so no matter how shitty it is they can't hurt it any more.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    I have just catched "Spock's Brain" on Viasat

    by David Cloverfield

    You guys are crazy. Star Trek is hilarious (crazy interrogated (by shaking) cave person rambles about "Them, who bring pain and pleasure" Kirk's excitedly raises his eyebrow "Pleasure?" Awesome) , but no sacred cow. I enjoy it greatly (this episode convinced me to download the whole TOS) but intelligent writing, lol. The writing was so bad, that it spawned terms like "redshirt" and "technobabble". I hated Transformers as much as the next guy (way back in cartoon form, before it was cool to hate it) but I think these guys can match the standard set by the franchise.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Let's actually see more than 2sec of dialogue

    by quantize

    and then we'll know for stuff looks cool, character stuff looks a little douchey in Abrams 90210 style...but we really dont know that for certain yet.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Sweet Christmas! Is the Andy Griffith Show next???

    by Uncle Stan

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:22 p.m. CST

    IT'S A LION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Turd Furgeson

    They better not turn Kirk into some EMO faggot who's searching for his life experience... I'm kinda getting that vibe from this trailer. Other than that, looks fantastic to me.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Galaxy Quest 2 set at a Star Trek convention

    by MisterE

    How sad.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    My name is James Tiberius Anakin Skywalker

    by kabong

    Watch me go through motions captured from other movies.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    If . . . Star trek TOS was a shitty sci-fi show

    by kabong

    why not do something original, instead of trying to piggyback on other property, revered however deservedly or undeservedly? <P> Why, because Hollyweird is shit.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Yes TOS had it's silly moments but it had a heart...

    by thecomedian

    From what I've read in interviews JJ wants to infuse that kind of "optimism" into the new Trek so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt till I see character scenes. But that trailer looks ass. I'm sort but it does. I'll take hilarious bits from the original series like The Enterprise crew short circuiting all the androids in "I Mudd" with a well planned "freak out"(seriously if you haven't seen it download it from itunes it's indescribable)over little hot rod, maverick Anikan Tiberious Kirk anyday. But nobody here is asking the real question has anybody seen this trailer...ON WEED?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Abrams's casting seems to suffer from a likability deficit.

    by Anti-fanboy

    And a surplus of doucheness. Kirk looks like he should be tending bar in a Disaronno commercial... Though, when you think about it, Abrams love of the metrosexual is kinda fitting for a sleek, futuristic setting. Liked what I saw of Bana, but I can't help thinking how great it would've been if he'd used his Aussie accent just for the hell of it and brought a touch of Chopper to the part.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Has everyone forgotten...

    by gotilk

    Just how horrible every Trek film has been since Khan? I mean seriously low standard, low-budget looking (if it was or not), cheap and schmaltzy? Is your memory that short? Go watch a few. Then come back Monday and re-watch that trailer in HD. If you still think it's utter crap, I have some Enterprise blueprints in my closet from about 1978 and I need the cash. It's time to make the final leap and just put all that Trek fandom behind me and start collecting Lost or BSG stuff. Something. <br> <br>As said above, if anything would make Mr Roddenberry spin in his grave it's the horrible attitudes and nitpicking, not the apple-store-bright sets or young actors. I seem to recall he liked young actors quite a bit and defended them against aging old rude farts with toupees and girdles. I also seem to recall very bright, clean ship interiors back in the time of the original series. Face it, if they made it dark and lived-in you'd say it's BattleTrek Galactistar. If they made it look anything like TNG Enterprise or TOS Enterprise, it'd look goofy in a major motion picture (see ALL of the previous Trek films for examples). <br> <br> I've watched some form of Trek in my life for over 35 years. Hell, I might have been bottle fed in front of the TV when the original series aired, knowing what my dad's interests always were(sci-fi, UFO novels, UFO magazines, UFO conventions.. he even moved to the desert to be near all the UFO freaks toward the end of his life). Trek was one of the few ways my father and I connected when he was still around. There are deep emotional roots attached to me and my family, connected to all things Trek. My childhood does not feel even remotely raped by JJ's vision of the Trek universe. The criticisms seem to mostly be connected to things people still don't know about the film, like character motivations, specific situations, etc. You could all have the wrong idea about most of it. We know there is an alternate history aspect to some of the film, yet people are bitching about the idea of Kirk commanding the Enterprise during Pike's period commanding the ship. And we know there's a time-travelling old Spock in the story. There's probably some (very? hmm) good reason why Spock thinks the Kirk-era crew needs to be on the Enterprise at that particular time and place.<br><br>Seriously? You ALL can't be that dense.<br> <br>Most of you will go see this regardless, probably even opening day. I'm not sure why I'm shocked by some of the reactions, having been around here for years, but I cannot buy into the criticisms. They seem founded on a negative, false precognition that existed far before even a description of this trailer existed. To each his own opinion, sure. But I can't take it seriously. It's a combination of fanboy jitters and ... there's got to be a name for it... <br>you know when guys talk bad about a girl, pick her apart? You know what I mean. They know the girl would NEVER give them a shot, no way in hell. Ever. So they pick her apart around people to feel better about her being far out of their league, or convince themselves or others that the opposite is true. But it's just sad when you see or hear them doing it? Oh well. End rant. Can't wait to see it.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Looks like...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...Every other star trek film, with a slightly bigger budget.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah and...

    by thecomedian

    Why is Ana-Kirk wearing Michael J. Fox's 2015 jacket from Back to the Future 2? Was he being chased by a gang of juvenile delinquent cyborgs on hoverboards?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    It's fuckin hilarious to see the Trek geeks...

    by Droid

    getting up in arms over this trailer. Firstly, Star Trek is shit. But I am well aware of the massive following and I respect it. But you fuckin geeks are getting worked up over a trailer that showed NOTHING. Just like the Watchmen trailer it was a series of incromprehensible random images. And the poster i saw the other day had Kirk looking like Patrick Bateman. It's SHIT marketing, may not instill confidence but it doesn't mean the film will be shit. Get over it. Secondly, you cannot be expecting much. JJ Abrams is shit. I never watched Alias, but Lost, Cloverfield and Fringe are all shit! He ruined MI3 with his inability to direct an action scene. That said, you Trek geeks should be thankful that someone with as much clout as Abrams even bothered to try to re-invent your beloved franchise. Stop obsessing over Spocks ears, the look of the Starship or [insert inane specific here]. You will all see it upon its release. So quit your whining, and wait until you've seen it to pass judgement. That is all.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:44 p.m. CST

    kabong.. now that's fair criticism

    by gotilk

    If given the choice of seeing another Trek film OR seeing some decent-budget sci-fi action film made by a great director from an original story/non-adaptation starring at least mostly unknowns, I'd pick the latter any day of the week. Much as I love Trek, give us something new Hollywood. But alas, this exists and looks like it's going to be AMAZING. No going back in time and changing that.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Star Trek IV and VI are great fun. Better than MI:3, that's for sure!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Wow, to all you basement dweling dwarves.

    by artismything

    I love how those negative, are the one's donning a mom-sewn Captain Kirk outfit right now. Sorry this isn't your faggoty 70's Trek. Go back to the cave of which you've hibernated the past 30 years in and let the new generation enjoy this. Looks sick, thank god the designs aren't TRASH anymore like the previous Trek movies.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    some decent-budget sci-fi action film made by a great director from an original story/non-adaptation starring at least mostly unknowns = Avatar.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Oh and also!

    by artismything

    God forbid Abrahms from hiring actors in their 50's and 60's. It'd be so coo0o0o0olll to see Shatner as Kirk again!!! Right, again, get over it. Like gotlilk said, no going back now.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST


    by Die_Hardest

    I reject the notion that every Trek film since Khan has been terrible. Search for Spock was good despite the fact that it was a cop-out. I also really enjoy IV, First Contact, and (to an extent) Generations. I'm not one of the people saying this is definitely going to suck either. I was actually more optimistic before the trailer. The trailer just strikes me, as I said above, as "Meh." It looks hollow, vapid. And even more disconcerting to me is the fact that we get no dialogue in this trailer, only quick shots of action sequences. To put it bluntly, it's as if they've sacrificed the cerebral for the testicular. To me, this makes the film more cynical than optimistic. A retread of a beloved franchise only this time it's meant to be titillating rather than thoughtful. And all for what purpose? To cash a check? Cynical. To me, that would be a sad reflection of where American film is currently headed.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Will young James Kirk exclaim "Yippee!"...

    by MisterE

    ...when he finds out that he's been accepted to Star Fleet Academy?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST

    I_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looki ng_for

    by Die_Hardest

    Spock! I killed Mr. Spock, with an axe, in the face! His body is dissolving in a bathtub in Hell's Kitchen!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Oooooo! It's warm in here!

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Must be all the flaming.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Generations is depressing.

    by Smashing

    They kill Kirk, then burn to death Picard's brother and nephew, for gods sake why though? then they resurrect Kirk only to kill him again, oh and they kill the Enterprise D and resurrect it with a bank for a bridge.<P> Who thought that sounded like cinematic family fun? Satan?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    palewook: Transformers?

    by Pdorwick

    What are you talking about? The "sort of thing" I like is intelligent storytelling and original thought. Nemesis? Really? What exactly, were you wishing for...<br><br>...and if you answer try to dial back on the condescension, as it - when combined with a groundless opinion - makes you sound foolish.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 4:59 p.m. CST


    by Die_Hardest

    The worst part is that neither of Kirk's deaths are any good. They really didn't do justice to the character. And his last words are "oh my."

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Orci + Kurtzman + Abrams =

    by Laserbrain

    Candy Coated Shit On A Stick.<p> Which a lot of you seem to have a voracious and unashamed appetite for.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Okay, I'll bite.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    "This new Star Trek movie is gonna suck because it reminds too much of the TV series from the 60's."

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST


    by L.H.Puttgrass

    "... it reminds ME too much..." <p> Damn it!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST


    by Droid

    The Trek flick i WOULD pay to see is the one where Kirk fucks two hookers, chops them up with a chainsaw then deconstucts the career of Huey Lewis and the News...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:06 p.m. CST

    I also didn't like the trailer.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    James "Fast & Furious" Kirk just doesn't do it for me. <p> Wow! This is fun. It's like a drinking game!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:07 p.m. CST


    by Le Vicious Fishus


  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    "....maybe to u....orci and kurtzman are great writers...just cuz u dont". Sorry, writing like that is evidence you have no idea what the fuck your talking about. But it's also clear how you could enjoy movies like Cloverfield or Transformers.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Once again, the twisted-knickers purist crowd presumes to speak

    by The Bunglermoose

    ...when really all they're doing is making themselves look close-minded and reactionary. I *am* a real fan, and I can't wait for this film to come out. I grew up on the original series. I was in high school when The Next Generation debuted. And I'm a real enough fan to know that the '60's kitsch that drips from the original series hasn't been watchable for a LONG time. It's about time that these characters and this universe were retooled with a more modern sensibility... "classic" does not always mean "better." And while I'm on the subject... the actors in the original series were not exactly Oscar caliber. There's a reason they didn't get much work other than Star Trek. I love them for what they meant to me as a child, but please. Like William Shatner is a hard act to follow? You folks have absolutely no idea how they're going to portray these characters in the actual film -- and I find the little snippets that are in the trailer quite plausible as far as characterization goes. For one thing, I find it completely plausible that Jim Kirk was an angsty emo-bitch before someone put him on the right track. The idea that he's some kind of cosmic Will Hunting appeals to me, actually.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Looks pretty cool to me!

    by Drath

    Granted JJ Abrams is hit and miss, but this does look pretty good, at least as strong as trailers for the Star Wars prequels--and making it look good is all this trailer is setting out to do. Kinda eager to see a longer more substantial trailer though. I think the glimpses of the characters in action are nice, is that Simon Pegg talking about getting excited? I'm still not on board with Karl Urban as McCoy and the praise for him in the part is still inexplicable to me. I have yet to see him make the character his own or copy DeForest Kelly at all. Anyway, Talkback is long and full clowns declaring their hatred of Trek, so I know this trailer is attracting the vulgar kiddies that big studios want to attract. This could be huge unless the word of mouth turns really really bad. Also, everyone knows that every time someone declares a pretty actor to be gay it's because he's attracted to him. So young Kirk is clearly the jerk-off material for a lot of people this weekend.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    I got another!

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    "I've seen the trailer and this movie will suck because I haven't seen it yet!" <p> ZING!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    "Looks sick"

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    I'm not a Trek fan, or even a hater of this commercial, but some of these defenders of Abrams need to be plants, because I can't believe retards who communicate in text speak and out of date neanderthal slang would know how to find their way to a Star Trek talkback on a movie geek website. It looks sick? Yes, it did look dizzy and unfocused as if it were having a mild fit in places.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Why the fuck...

    by mode_7

    Does AICN not have any merchandise? I want a mug and a motherfucking ashtray with harry's face on it, dammit.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    From the scr

    by siouxfire

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    From the producer of Xena & Hercules - You have to worry

    by siouxfire

    regardless of how pretty it looks

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST


    by L.H.Puttgrass

    "This movie will suck because not only did it NOT rape my childhood, it told me that it doesn't find me sexually attractive!" <p> Wheeeeeee!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    OK - i just have to say...

    by Brundlefly

    That looked pretty fucking great. I'll definitely be checking it out. It can't suck anymore than the last two Trek flicks did so bring it on...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST


    by L.H.Puttgrass

    You don't want Harry toilet paper do you? <p> With his face on it? <p> Ewwwww.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Ok, I'll say it. Looks like Michael Goddamn Bay directed it! Dun

    by Squinty CGI Flynn

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Oh no...

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Someone said, "Bayyyyy.".

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Star Trek is not a shiny sports car...

    by chaplinatemyshoe

    It's a nerdy soap box somebody put together with a lot of love and affection. The way this looks totally misses the point. It's like a second season of Freaks and Geeks where they all go out for the football team and start hooking up with cheerleaders...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST


    by cornponious

    Star Trek:The Young Ones

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    This also reminded me of...

    by chaplinatemyshoe

    "Young Man at the Beach." Hollywood sucks sometimes.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    That didn't do jack shit for me.

    by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon

    And I had no expectations one way or the other.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST


    by L.H.Puttgrass

    How about a Harry welcome mat? <p> "Beware of Rabid Geek!"

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:44 p.m. CST

    The Great Bird: Total Hack

    by victor82

    <i>Gene wouldn't be proud, because there's two absolute hacks writing the film. He'd probably be outraged.</i> Look, Gene Roddenberry came up with a great idea for a series, but his execution lacked flair and his writing sucked sweaty balls. "The Cage" and "WNMHGB" are probably the only good things he ever did. He added the lame words to the musical score for the opening and completely butchered it. He did get completely lucky though: for about a year he got to sleep with Nichelle Nichols, I think during the 1967 season.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:47 p.m. CST

    This Movie Will Suck #4.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    ...because the new old Enterprise design is bipolar.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Wonderthump! For the last Time!!!

    by victor82

    by Wonderthump Nov 16th, 2008 02:12:05 PM This is Star Trek for the same pudfuckers who yell "Go Team!" or dress up in tightfitting homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that) gear, pat each other on the ass, get into big humping pile ups at football games, and shower together, yet persecute the gays. This is Star Trek for that pasty ass hat who glares at you from behind the counter at Abercrombie and Fitch, that potatopounder who serves you at Applefuckingbees. Anyone with half a brain will avoid this tripe except for the dweeby types who can't wait to get it for free from the library. Eat shit, Abrahms! --------- There are no gay men aboard the Enterprise! Those rumors about Mr. Sulu are just vicious rumors spread by the gay community!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    This Movie Will Suck #5.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Apparently, Wonderthump don't like it.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Star Trek cameo

    by Nerdboy1423

    The Cloverfield monster will have a cameo in this film

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Hate the trailer

    by HereAgain

    At 46, I watched the original show as it originally aired (well, the last few seasons, anyway). This does nothing for me, actually, but I'm not the target. The opening kiddie shot was mind-numbing - I don't want hear a prepubescent screeching "James Tiberius Kirk." Plus, the cuts were too rapid, to get a sense of ANYTHING. Yeah, of course I'll go see it, hoping it was just a lousy trailer. (The teaser was far better.)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Get A Grip...

    by The Edges Hat

    I liked the Original Series, I liked TNG, couldn't be arsed with DS9, Voyager or Enterpish. How can anyone complain about the casting or the writing when you've just seen a short trailer? Are you psychic? All the feedback on the full scenes that JJ Abrams showed recently has been really positive. I think a few of you need to take your foot of the obessive pedal and judge the film when you see it. Remember we all thought The Phantom Menace was going to be the second coming from the reaction to the time tells...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:15 p.m. CST

    I agree w/InActionMan

    by darthwaz1

    Either make it cannon or just reboot the franchise, this movie will be somewhere in the middle and leave fans speculating whether or not it's cannon.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Star Trek Lead the Way

    by lonestaricon

    Thanks to all who are making this movie possible. I appreciate the passion and fortitude it requires to undertake such a difficult project. I admire the strength of will it takes to endure harsh and unwarranted criticism, and to fight back when necessary. The work speaks for itself and while anyone can be critical, disrespectful and hurtful, when was the last time anyone spoke well of an unconstructive critic?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:28 p.m. CST


    by moondoggy2u

    That's not all he did. I heard Denise Crosby got the Uhura deal, too. Of course, considering thats how Majel Barrett got her part in the pilot, I doubt we can consider The Bird "lucky" so much as your typical hollywood producer/writer.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:29 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    I'm not sure I agree. I remember them being VERY fun. But watching them now is just... uncomfortable. In spite of it's 80s OVERtones, Khan still somehow stands up. When it's over the top, it's forgiven because the strokes or broad AND beautiful. When it gets cheesy, it has the feel of the original series, the spirit of it. Somehow. Every time I've re-watched the other Trek films, including that last one AND the first, I've felt far too many cringe moments. Ever been in a small crowd watching a singer or any kind of performer who is choking... failing on stage about 5 or 10 feet in front of you? That kind of discomfort. Like you're sharing it.. part of it. But if you love them, great. I guess it's just a personal taste thing. And I am NO huge fan of MI:3. I thought it felt too much like a big budget Alias episode at times. Almost as if in spite of the budget freedoms, he had made a lot of TV shooting and staging choices anyway. Maybe out of habit? I like it. But it was flawed.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:30 p.m. CST

    And let's not forget that Gene's cinematic debut for his baby

    by moondoggy2u

    was pretty much a rewrite of "The Changeling." Laziest screenwriter ever.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Not Liking The Looks Of This AT ALL

    by LaserPants

    But I'm sure younger audiences will like it. I dunno. I think the whole reboot thing is a bad, dumb idea.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:33 p.m. CST

    I'll give MI:3 credit for something:

    by moondoggy2u

    out of all the Mission: Impossible movies, his was the only one that actually felt like the tv show.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:35 p.m. CST

    err...THIS was the only one...

    by moondoggy2u

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:37 p.m. CST

    On a lighter note.

    by gotilk

    Jennifer Morrison is Kirk's mil... I mean mom.<br> <br> Grrr-owl.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:53 p.m. CST


    by Choo

    I refuse to even rent this turd and I demand my money back from Cloverfeild.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 6:58 p.m. CST

    As mentioned above....

    by mrfan

    I have no problem with a reboot. The trailer wasn't bad. Just too much special effects. Seriously, the writing and chemistry with the actors will determine if I will enjoy it. That is the one thing I always enjoyed about the movies and tv shows. I will have an open mind when seeing this.

  • those little nerds are having a secret meeting with some weird password tonight, stay tune. mehhhhh....

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    you people blow. that looked pretty cool.


    maybe i will actually watch a trek movie... trekkies suck!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:09 p.m. CST

    That was AWESOME!!!

    by BendersShinyAss

    As a fan of 60's trek, the 6 original films, and yes i loved next gen and DS9 and EVEN voyager (tho it was always considered trek for girls) ..... I wasn't really all that interested in this film - especially with the disapointing last few years of insurrection, nemesis and enterprise... but seeing this trailer......... <p> I'm fucking excited !! kudos to trek coming back (eat it berman)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST

    a few trailer points...

    by BendersShinyAss

    Kirk driving a car off a cliff is well with in the characters peramiters. Yes I would not be surprised if young kirk liked to destroy vintage cars by jumping out of them as he plunged them into ravines... this is a man who free hand climbs vertical wall mountains, orbital skydives and rafts down lava rivers. <p> he destroy the enterprise over a self destructing planet in order to over power a klingon rival!! The man has some big hairy nuts my friends. <p> Spock in old school get up looks fantastic. yes Spock has emotional issues in his youth... that was always his arch - he's a vulcan and as sch is not allowed to have emotions... yet his mother was human and he retains that 'dark' secret with fury. <p> Simon pegg as scotty looks great. even McCoy has me intrigued. Bones was always a complaining angry man and there he is being angry and complaining. <p> I'm not sure about the ship being constructed ON earth.... i was always of the belief that federation ships were built at ship yards above the moon and mars. But the front on view of the ship gave me joygasms.... I literally can not wait to see old style trek on the big screen..... <p> give paramount and jj credit where it's due.... Star trek is coming back <p> here's hoping it aint a pile of superman returns style shit but is in fact more in the realm of the dark knight or 007 -- return to forms.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST

    I'm perplexed.

    by Boromir

    Are so many of you so stupid that you believe that your opinion becomes more valid if you lamely attempt to invalidate other opinions first? Really?? "If you disagree with me, you suck. I think it looked neat-o." What are you, in fucking kindergarten?

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Here's a link for some TRUE trekkers

    by BendersShinyAss <p> remember to fix the spaces

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Sorry Trekkies...

    by kiddae

    I know they're "destroying" your favourite franchise and everything, but this looks great. (I mean, yeah, the kid was dopey, but did you SEE the rest?)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Music in the Trailer good???? 0 F TASTE

    by quantize

    Coz that was Hans Zimmer hacksville to the max...stick that shit under johhny depp doing jack spratt and nobody would notice any difference. Jaw droppingly boring predicatable MOR trailer music...get a fuckin grip dude..

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:30 p.m. CST

    I'm not a Tekkie or a Trekker, and to me it looks like shite.

    by Boromir

    I realize that a lot of folks love the generic teen melodrama look that Whedon, Abrams, and the like lend to their crap, but a whole slew of us would rather have our nuts caught in a vice than willingly be exposed to more of this failed aesthetic. I'm positive that Alias, Firefly, and Buffy fans will find this irresistible. I hope there's enough of them willing to plop down the cash for what amounts to a CW pilot at the theater. Otherwise, this turd baby looks like it's going to be stillborn.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:31 p.m. CST

    This Trailer Needed The Smashing Pumpkins!!!

    by Media Messiah

    A horrible trailer, and Sylar looks like Sylar, not Spock!!! They could have at least given us better music to signal a definate change in Star suggestion, "Rocket Man" by Elton John...lof course, Smashing Pumpkins will do!!!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:46 p.m. CST

    It reminded me of SPEED RACER...

    by CountryBoy

    ... because it didn't look quite real. The battle stuff was choppy and confusing, but Eric Bana was cool. So... jury's still out.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    of Kirk's and AICN queer-bots

    by joshuavance1701

    I just adore when the pseudo-intellectual arm-chair hackneyed movie critic wannebes climb out of the woodwork to spew their bile and vitriolic shit from their shit-stained mouths, it tickles my prostate and sack mightily. Long time lurker, rarified poster here fag-boys, but on this occasion I just had to come forth to put some cunts in check. Observeth whores. As a life-long Trek afficianado, I can say in all truth my initial reaction to everything remotely pertaining to this movie was a dind ding, red alert- how bout that? However, that being said, upon further instrospection, I think I can see where the self-proclaimed counsel of elders on this new material are going. Star Trek isn't and hasn't been relevant for awhile now, for quite awhile actually. It's a cultural niche market, relegated and reserved exclusively for faux-intellectuals and their smarmy self-indulgent , self-righteous distorted perceptions on what constitutes high art. That's the inherent problem. Trek has always appealed to that caliber and ilk of people, and look at the subsequent result the last few outings. I don't know how many of you cock-suckers are aware of it but, over the course of the last 8 years there has been a systematic and deliberate dumbing down of culture in this society. Shit runs downhill from the top. The fastest way to bury a franchise you long to resurrect, is to continue producing product no one will venture out to see. Solution - dumb the material down to the common denominator prevalent today. That's an ingenious approach. If you want Star Trek to be viable and relevant, you have to change the product, the audience sure as shit won't change. For all the shit Lucas recieved for the prequels, that is a fundamental equation he understood - think long term. Think happy meals, and action figures, play-sets, legos, because in truth the 4 people that post on these forums under multiple handles arent the future, we represent the past like it not. I'm 35 years old. I've seen it all and lived through the entire gambit of mega-blockbusters and culture shaping epochs of the late 70,s , 80's and 90's. It's a hard bitter pill to swallow but, my time is over, and if you are over 30 in here, so is yours fucker. So I'm willing to go in to this enterprise with that mentality and attitude, just like with the Prequels, and if some 7 year old happens to be sitting next to me and is sitting there smiling, well then God-dammit that was the whole point and purpose and these fuckers making this thing suceeded on levels us jaded cynical old bastards can only dream about. Make way for Generation Y Captain Kirk cocksuckers he's bringing the game.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 7:59 p.m. CST

    i hate to admit it but this looks fun

    by Rupee88

    this will probably be an ultimately empty experience but I can't help but look forward to this for some reason. I guess I'll check the tomatometer first but it does look fun

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:02 p.m. CST


    by Rupee88

    well said...they aren't trying to make a good movie...they are trying to make a profitable one. Look up the worldwide grosses for Transformers and X3 and even Day after Tomorrow and you'll see that dumbing down the material is where the money is. And of course it's all about money. Like I said, part of me is looking forward to seeing this, but that's mostly the dumb part of me.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST


    by joshuavance1701

    It will be the same as the Prequels Rupee, a hand-full of "fans" will go in expecting a religious experience or Sir Lawrence Olivier level production etiquette and when a 2 hour film fails to deliver the quintessential child-regression, said "fans" will scream heresy, all the while the armada and legion of 12 year olds sitting all around them are dazzled by the spectacle these hollow fucks longed to feel again. You know what, I liked the Star Wars prequels, actually, I thought they were pretty fucking inspired. I have no doubt I'll enjoy this dumbed down, generation Y encapsulated crapfest for what it and why? Because I'm not anhedonic and quite capable of experiencing joy.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Corvette scene fucking retarded...

    by BurnHollywood

    You know, I was actually starting to look forward to this until I saw that scene.<p> He takes a priceless vehicle, destroys it, then blats out his name to the cop like he's actually accomplished something. Seems to imply he's a self-obsessed, sociopathic twat who might grow up to put his whole crew at risk to career climb. Thought the guy was a hero...if he were saving a busload of Andorian orphans, maybe that would justify wrecking a quarter-millennium-old antique.<p> This NEED FOR SPEED phony-"cool" bullshit doesn't bode well...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Modern films

    by joshuavance1701

    I fully believe in a world where oscar caliber and visceral film experiences can co-exist. I don't go into a Batman, Star Wars, Star Trek, Superman, etc. expecting accolades and trophies layed at the feet of producers for producing such marvels of literary genius, and likewise I don't go into indy films or oscar boosters expecting CGI and explosions. It's all about context. I fully expect this Trek film to kick the shit out of some balls NOT for its literary allegories, metaphoric allusions, or capacity to evolve my consciousness , but because Captain Kirk is busting Romulan ass on the starship fucking Enterprise!

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:13 p.m. CST

    To all you teabaggers...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...complaining about the quick-cut editing: It's a fucking TEASER, dipshits. And to all of the other haters. I hope your moms' bathtub overflows and you drown in your basements.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:13 p.m. CST


    by joker2thief

    Glad someone said it like it is. Now here's hoping it's not dumbed down TOO much... if they make it pretty enough, they might be able to slip in some of that classic Trek 'morality stuff' and the masses won't choke on it.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:15 p.m. CST

    I don't go into a Batman, Star Wars, Star Trek, Superman, etc.

    by Boromir

    Problem solved. With apologies to joshuavance1701. But hey, it's true.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:16 p.m. CST dont disagree with

    by bacci40

    most of why are you bitchin? ya, this movie is not being made for the over 30 trek fan...we are irrelevant...i disagree that the franchise is irrelevant...if it were, why give it a reboot? why not call it something totally different? here is what bugs me...abrams is about to proclaim to the world, I KNOW BETTER THAN RODENBERRY...maybe he does...but i doubt it...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:17 p.m. CST

    wrecking the car

    by joshuavance1701

    That behavior PERSONIFIES james T. Kirk. A true Maverick, not a McCain caliber maverick, but someone who has never quite found their place and station in life. Captain Kirk and the rest of these characters are archetypes , representative of tried and true persona cliches. It looks to me like Abrams and crew are Star Warsing this franchise and re-launching it with some Kurosawa and Joseph "The heroes journey" Campbell. Kirk/Luke is the young lost kid searching for themselves, they are given an oppurtunity by a mentor in the form of Obi-Wan/Pike later elder Spock, and embark on a series of adventures meeting a variety of bizzare characters ultimately finding their place, purpose and best destiny. For Kirk, command of a starship exploring the stars.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:18 p.m. CST

    I'm happy you enjoyed Firefly, O Goncho.

    by Boromir

    Lots and lots of people seem to be eating sushi lately. The thought alone tends to bring my stomach contents into the back of my throat--but I realize that I'm not going to change anyone's mind about such things.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:22 p.m. CST

    gotilk, I did NOT forget...

    by Player 1 much crap we have swallowed called 'Trek' recently. Give me new Trek, the last few years have been abysmal.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Our modern world influences that familiar world...

    by Orionsangels

    We're all so used too. Take the TV show Enterprise for example. It took place before the 60's TV series. Yet it had the look and feeling of ST First Contact. No matter our modern society comes into play. No one wants to stay true to that original look we're all familiar with, they add all the modern elements, that they think a young audience would better relate too.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by joshuavance1701

    I think I'm venting some post-Prequel cognitive dissonance dude, I have witnessed for about 10 years on this website the perpetual bitching and flaming of the prequels, and I always had a laugh about it, not because the criticisms werent true, most of them are and were, but rather because Lucas laughed his way to the bank to the gleeful laughter and sound of an entire generation of teens and children enjoying the shit out of the prequels while a handful of fans sat at their computers in boxers scratching their sacks bitching about the inherent artistic failings of the films. We got played. The same thing shouldnt happen again. The best way to inspire true change, is from within. This film should be successful, and massively, so that all of the other incarnations of Trek, the media, the model kits, the action figures, the entire legacy can thrive and survive. If this watered down Trek fails, the entire future of the franchise fails.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:48 p.m. CST


    by BurgerTime

    But the rest of the trailer is the dog's bollocks.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:50 p.m. CST

    what do you mean this isn't made for the over 30's??

    by BendersShinyAss

    I'm over 30 and seeing this trailer made me feel like an old girlfriend just sent me a love letter

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:53 p.m. CST

    to those saying they've star wars'ed it up

    by BendersShinyAss

    bullshit <p> star trek always had space battles and explosions and race against time scenarios. It just wasn't about those things.... thats why the last few films were so shit. they forgot to give them a reason to be having space battles. <p> I'd go so far as to say DS9 had some of the biggest and best space battles ever visually conveived...

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Oh BTW Herc....

    by darthvol

    I broke this news two hours before you guys decided to put up the link...thanks for the credit :)

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Have any of you actually seen the car scene?

    by performingmonkey

    Didn't think so. Stop ripping into what is essentially a trailer edit of this scene where you don't have a fucking clue how it will be cut in the movie and why young Kirk is driving the car in the first place.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:13 p.m. CST

    JJ Abrams raped my childhood!

    by darthwaz1

    kidding, I wasn't nearly born yet when the OS was on the air. I love the show though, especially now with the added cg effects. My favorite trek film is the director's cut of the motion picture...huge improvement.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Give me HD

    by Magregus

    Need HD to judge can not judge from this garbage camera

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    gipped @ Quantum

    by aboriginal

    SONOFABITCH! No trailer at the Van Ness 14 in SF today. What'd I just pay money to see!?!?! JAMES BOND!?!?! Oh yeh . . . I did. But where the hell was my STAR FRIKKIN' TREK!!?!?! LAME AS THEATER TURDS!!! Oh yeh . . . BOND ROCKED.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:41 p.m. CST

    As much as you all want to nit-pick and complain...

    by Paul T. Ryan

    ....You'll all be there opening day.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Get a fuckin life you dumb asses

    by Dark Doom

    Jesus, its a TV show that's had more than 9 lives. Its been good, bad and sometimes painful to watch. But how the fuck can we judge a movie by a fucking 2 minute tailer? I hate "lost, tranformers, and MI3" but I won't hate this movie UNTIL I SEE IT. Jesus- Like Shatner says: "Get a fucking life."

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:55 p.m. CST

    This looks horrible.

    by GunterMonkey

    Appears to be two steps backwards...a 'remake' of the original idea...The Hills meets Enterprise...yikes.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 9:59 p.m. CST

    I thought the beginning was a commercial too

    by GunterMonkey

    It took me about 30 seconds to realize it was the movie...I was like, WTF? a commercial on a trailer? But lo and behold, it was the ACTUAL TRAILER. Shame on you J.J...this is shit.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:15 p.m. CST

    They're Young. Get Over It

    by ThomasServo

    The fucking nerds in this place need to get over being picked on in high school. Yes, the actors in this movie are young and good looking. Watch some old Star Trek. Kirk was a good looking womanizer. Most the hate being thrown at this trailer focuses on the looks of the actors. What a bunch of insecure whiners. It looks fun as hell.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST wont fail

    by bacci40

    if transformers, ff and x3 can make money...this will too...look, i was one of the kids who wrote nbc letters not to cancel (along with dr who, and the prisoner) were the only shows my dad and i would sit and watch, and then talk dad bought me all the books about trek, and he went with me to see st the movie and wrath of khan...i have an emotional attachment to the original series...alot of the stuff in the original series was heavy handed, but because it was scifi, it was able to deal with issues, no one else would touch...and the movies that were good, were the ones that put character and story above the space fights and special effects...wrath of khan, search for spock, the voyage home...all dealt with issues the audience was dealing with...age, loyalty, the enviroment, etc...this was just a trailer, but i dont know, it seems like the space shootemup that rodenberry pretty much despised

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST


    by bacci40

    kirk was fat and wore a bad toupe'

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Looks good to me, I dont see the problem, but.....

    by The Founder

    I'm still not sold that it was a good idea to push this to the summer. Star Trek doesn't have wide enough appeal to make it a summer tentpole. it could work but I doubt it. Maybe Abbrams will get it to appeal to a wider audience, and the trailer looks great, but Trek just have nerd and Trekkies written all over it that turns off a lot of people. I'm hoping for the best for this film. I'm not a trekkie and I'm not astickler who look everything to complain about.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    The original cast wasn't that old either.

    by The Founder

    I don't know why sme keep going on about the cast looks to young or calling it 90210. Tha's an insult. The originalcast was close in age to the new cast. As someone pointed out in another talk back we we're kids when we watched Star trek so yeah they looked older to us.

  • Nov. 16, 2008, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Capt. Kirk didn't know how to drive a car on TOS

    by Mike Hunt

    At least not in "The Piece of the Action." GRANTED, that car was designed by aliens! I still say this can only be a reboot! Kirk and Chekov ARE NOT the same age!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Age of the cast compared to TOS

    by NoHubris

    There is a significant difference. Deforest Kelly (McCoy) and Doohan (Scotty) were both 46 years old at the START of TOS. Shatner was 35 compared to Pine (28), while Nimoy and Nichelle Nichols were 3-4 years older than the current actors playing Spock and Uhura.<p>In other words, the TOS Trek cast looks older because they really were.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Ha, ha! No shit, Mr. Hunt...

    by BurnHollywood

    ...And does EVERY fucking screenwriter have to denote a character's youth and fiercely independent, machismo spirit with a motorcycle? I thought Kirk rode horses...why not work that somewhat unique character trait in?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Frankly, I'm thankful for ANY more Trek...

    by Bill Clay

    I was certain that the franchise was dead after Enterprise's early cancellation. I'm just grateful that it's back up on the screen, even if the approach isn't one I'm crazy about.<p> I will give JJ some credit for using Nimoy as a bridge between the old and new versions. This reboot needed that kind of nod to the past to lend it some authenticity.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Looks good. pleasantly had a chill

    by krylite

    could have done without the vette car commercial or whatever; but young Kirk grasping on the cliff edge was definitely Kirk. though shouting his name as too Anakin TPM maybe. I'm also a mid thirties trek fan and TOS trek had always been my favorite even during TNG's run when it wasn't as cool to be a TOS fan and we were kindof shunned for being so unti Berman and co over did it their hotel in space way after Gene left us in 91. DS9 was a copycat of Babylon 5, didn't you all know that. NBC execs took JMS' presentation scripts back in 87. even including the whitestar("Defiant" in ds9). Joshuavance1701, I think JJ is actually honoring the older fans over 30. He's one himself. We could have had nothing of the TOS ever again. Shatner and Nimoy were 35 when they started TOS in '66 and were relative nobodies worrying about their next stint. (Yes Nimoy starred as bad guys, even in Mission Impossible series ; Quinto similar in starring as a villian, Sylar). that they gave the performances of their careers in those 3 seasons of TOS at their age should be inspiring to us older TS fans. With this rotten economy and young college grad bucks trying to marginilize my job so they hire their friends to take over mine (heck everyone fighting for steady jobs), I think about TOS and am glad to be inspired again. This trailer did it for me today. could have done without the nude sex.(only came in Voyager and Entrprise after Gene was gone; his era only tittilated with nice looking bras and midriffs, remember Lee Meriweather and that android chick in "what are little girls made of?")But it was awesome and showed someone(JJ) convinced Paramount not to forget about the TOS and even back the biggest budget since the first movie(which was great too. see the 2001 director's edition, Robert Wise's last work).

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:49 a.m. CST

    br1947 = incorrect.

    by RockMSockM

    Sorry, but as a former child of the 80s who grew up with the Transformers, I thought it was a great movie--especially the last hour. Although you'd like to think you speak for everyone, you don't. That being said, I also am afraid of the Star Trek re-boot. Transformers' trailers made me excited. These make me worried. Big dif.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:23 a.m. CST

    They Did It The Wrong Way!!!

    by Media Messiah

    A prequel should show a character that we already know in a different light than we had previously imagined them. James T. Kirk should have been a mixed up loner who can't get a date. Spock, should have been shown fully embracing his human side, and ignoring his Vulcan half. McCoy should have been a horrible drunk, and self medicating doctor, and the last person you'd want to receive medical attention from. Maybe we should have seen Sulu as being gay...a tribute to George Takei's real life...and Scotty a deputized engineer who is a coward and a technophobe...and Uhura...a former def mute with nano implants that allow her to master communcations among other technologies...and Chekhov, shown as someone running his own illegal gambling and smuggling racket in the academy...supplying troops and fellow students, with contraband, and even ladies of the evening.<BR><BR>My point is, we should have learned something about these people beyond the norm, thngs we didn't expect to see. I think we all could have pretty much guessed that Kirk was a bad boy based upon him cheating on his test. But I'd rather have seen a twist, one showing him as a loser who is forced into being a great man, out of desperate circumstance. We should have seen him as a reluctant hero attempting to get out of Star Fleet at all costs...and even going as far as cheating on his test and admitting it all fro one reason, his hopes of being drummed out of Star Fleet, instead, he is promoted for inventive thinking, thanks to his cheating. When it came to the ladies, we should have seen him seduced by a Star Fleet Commander's wife, turning him into the confident ladies man who we now know, etc. When the commander finds his wife in bed with Kirk, who flees the scene, he, the commander, ships Kirk and crew off to the worst and most far off part of the sector as revenge, and to keep Kirk away from his amorous wife, known for her affairs with star fleet recruits. While on assignment, Kirk and crew stumble across a plot against the Federation that eventually they must thwart, or die trying. This eventually leads to the redemption of all these characters and leads to Kirk being awarded his own command, all something he never wanted or anticipated...but a mantle he now understands the value and responsibility of assuming.<BR><BR>The problem with this movie as it stands, is it begins with info we already know, or have guessed at with concern to the characters, and their personalities, and that is the flaw of this movie.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:38 a.m. CST

    How I Would Have Made This Movie: They Did It The Wrong Way!!!

    by Media Messiah

    A prequel should show a character that we already know in a different light than we had previously imagined them. James T. Kirk should have been a mixed up loner who can't get a date. Spock, should have been shown fully embracing his human side, and ignoring his Vulcan half. McCoy should have been a horrible drunk, and self medicating doctor, and the last person you'd want to receive medical attention from. Maybe we should have seen Sulu as being gay...a tribute to George Takei's real life...and Scotty a deputized engineer who is a coward and a technophobe...and Uhura...a former def mute with nano implants that allow her to master communcations among other technologies...and Chekhov, shown as someone running his own illegal gambling and smuggling racket in the academy...supplying troops and fellow students, with contraband, and even ladies of the evening. <BR><BR> My point is, we should have learned something about these people beyond the norm, things we didn't expect to see. I think we all could have pretty much guessed that Kirk was a bad boy based upon him cheating on his test. But I'd rather have seen a twist, one showing him as a loser who is forced into being a great man, born out of desperate circumstance. He should have been depicted as a loser who happily embraces being persona-non-grata, and just managing to get by in life, a ne'er-do-well. We should have seen him as a reluctant hero attempting to get out of Star Fleet at all costs...and even going as far as cheating on his test and admitting it all for one reason, his hopes of being drummed out of Star Fleet, instead, he is promoted for inventive thinking, thanks to his cheating. When it came to the ladies, we should have seen him seduced by a Star Fleet Commander's wife, turning him into the confident ladies man who we now know, etc. When the commander finds his wife in bed with Kirk, who flees the scene, he, the commander, ships Kirk and crew off to the worst and most far off part of the sector as revenge, and to keep Kirk away from his amorous wife, known for her affairs with star fleet recruits. While on assignment, Kirk and crew stumble across a plot against the Federation that eventually they must thwart, or die trying. This eventually leads to the redemption of all these characters and leads to Kirk being awarded his own command, all something he never wanted or anticipated...but a mantle he now understands the value and responsibility of assuming. <BR><BR> The problem with this movie, as it stands, is it begins with info we already know, or have guessed at with concern to the characters, and their personalities, and that is the flaw of this movie...we pretty much see the characters as we would expect, and that is anti- climatic.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Moratorium on the "you'll all be there opening day.."

    by Brians Life

    Cause you know what, genius, some of us won't.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:06 a.m. CST

    TomServo, you ARE a nerd.

    by Brians Life

    It's not a bad thing. BUT just realize that YOU are posting on Ain't It Cool News in a STAR TREK talkback. Wake up and smell the fuckin' nerd.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by medicinaluser

    Amorous commanders wife are you smoking MM that whole thing you wrote....twice (to correct a subject line of all things) sounds hideous. <BR><BR> This is why we need to see the death of trek once and for all it all but turns sane motherfuckers batshit crazy. <BR><BR> Serious though bro less of the playboy tv...oh and have you got laid since you ditched your sick but crazy gf? as if not it might be an idea....just saying is all.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Kirk on the motorcycle = shit out of Top Gun

    by TallBoy66

    Movie may very well rock and I liked most of the trailer but, dear fucking Jesus, did he HAVE to be on a motorcycle, wearing a leather jacket, staring forlornly at them building the Enterprise? I mean, jesus christ!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:19 a.m. CST

    Medicinaluser: Actually What I Wrote Is Pretty Good

    by Media Messiah

    My writing is on point in this regard.<BR><BR>As for you taking shots at my GF, that is below contempt. If you wish to discuss movies...fine, and if you wish to disagree with my views on said movies, fine, but I did nothing to deserve that, your mean spirited comments I mean, and neither has she. This lady is a humanitarian, who's always helping others...and sadly, illness and disease is something all of us will have to deal with, through ourselves, and all of our loved ones, but it is nothing to make snide remarks about, and again, that is below contempt. And in regard to what she is dealing with, though maddening at times, she is the most brave person I have ever met...and in her work, her choosen career, she is a real life hero, unlike the so many fictonal characters that are discussed on this web site, and those you wish to defend, through your poor lack of moral ethics.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by medicinaluser

    Chill ffs sake your writing aside the dig at your EX was'nt even a dig at her but more concern for how your getting on since the split, remember the one you brought up and mentioned in a talkback a while back. <BR><BR> Now go light up a fat one and get laid, consider that an order.<BR><BR> Back OT this trailer still sucks.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:35 a.m. CST

    DrDirty D,Playhouse...thanks for the heads up

    by Carl's hat

    on Bruce Greenwood in the trailer. The man is one of the most under-rated actors going.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:04 a.m. CST

    This looks very very good - it is a reboot and it is epic

    by Spacesheik

    I am looking forward to it, and especially Leonard Nimoy's part (which I hope is substantial and not just a cameo). I liked the visuals of the trailer and the action looks fierce but the temp music was blah. Overall, it looks excellent and a good shot in the arm to the franchise.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:44 a.m. CST


    by drturing

    I remember I got pulled over once by a cop, and the first thing he said was "WHAT IS YOUR NAME?"

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:19 a.m. CST

    Medicinaluser: Sorry

    by Media Messiah

    I guess I'm a little touchy considering the circumstances. I apologize. Hopefully, she is still in the picture. We are talking again...which is a good thing.<BR><BR>And yes, as for the movie, the trailer could have been better. In terms of my critique of the trailer, I guess I like to act as a muse on other people's work. If I see a flaw in it, I try to see a point or points where it can be fixed, added to, or improved, in order to test my own skills so I can become a better writer, not that I am trying to put anyone down, just testing myself against what has been offered to the public. I mean, if I am going to complain about it, I had better have something superior, at least in my mind, right or wrong, or I should just stay quiet about the matter. So far, the movie looks like the plot for a new tv series version of Trek with a more advanced Enterprise...and if you are going to play with story canon, that would have been a blast. <BR><BR>Story: An extraterrestrial menace from the future attacks the Federation's past to undue the future, by changing the past. Yes, we have seen that before, but here is the twist: Kirk and crew however, stumple upon a future version of the Enterprise which has somehow traversed backwards in time. Now they must use the future version of the Enterprise to stave off the attack that is being launched in their present by this more advanced race from the far flung future. It would have made for an interesting Star Fleet Academy tv series...but, prequels just don't do it for me, I prefer the future adventures of the Star Trek universe...say 100 years past the Next Genertion would be nice.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Classic Trek biting social commentary

    by Shaw

    The american auto industry is speeding towards a cliff. It's essentially an "antique" for it's time and age. the american people can either abandon it, or go off the cliff with the auto industry. JJ you've done it again!!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:45 a.m. CST

    The car scene...

    by I AM ROCKO

    ...sorry that looked retarded, as did the Kirk on motorbike, leather jacked, moody/sullen thing. The rest of the trailer was fine...not sure about some of strange camera angle/shots though...however never judge a film on its trailer, although everyone knows that. Please god, I hope it is good...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:46 a.m. CST

    No trek

    by Vision

    Doesn't look very trekkie, looks like the typical Hollywood pap for the children under 25 who are into the brain dead nonsense. Yawn.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Star Trek needs saved from its fans

    by Mr Willi

    Seriously, I like what they're doing with this movie. The creators are going back to the original concept of the show: Fun space opera. No, its not the over-serious, badly written, simplified morality stories of the new series (which were truly awful -- as badly written as daytime soap opera.) The question is: Will Trekkie, who generally lack taste, try to kill this movie with bad buzz? I hope not, because those of us who like going to movies without thinking its Halloween would like to see a good Star Trek film. (Really, who wants to stand by a 40-year-old grown man in a Star Trek uniform? "Move the kids away from him honey.")

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:05 a.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    Or will they have ribbed (for her pleasure) looking foreheads?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:30 a.m. CST

    Shutup about 'rebellious teens'

    by Lemming

    Now that I've actually seen the trailer, Kirk in that first scene is more like 11-12, which doesn't make it bad at all.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Chris Pine or Evans will be cast as Captain America.

    by Leafar the Lost

    I have no doubt about it now. Aaron Eckhart will be not be in First Avenger.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Media messiah....

    by BendersShinyAss

    Bravo champ.... thats a star trek film I'd pay to see a couple times...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Rick Berman will save Star Trek from JJ Abrams.

    by Leafar the Lost

    Rick Berman told close friends that he was horrified by the changes that JJ Abrams has made to Star Trek. While taking a break from his manager job at a local McDonald's in Hollywood, Berman said: "Continuity in Star Trek must be maintained! That is what I dedicated my life to when I was in charge of Star Trek. I saved Star Trek from Roddenberry, and when JJ Abrams fucks it all up, I will save it again. I will make the Trekkies respect me, whether they like it or not. Fuck Abrams!"

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Yeh save ST from its fans...

    by quantize

    ...and get the 'High School 3 The Musical' ones on board for the franchises' future... And Rick Berman can serve me up fries anytime baby coz that motherfucker entertained me a gzillion times better than those huckster cheap tricks JJ served up in Cloverturd and Lost /flame off asswipes

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:52 a.m. CST

    "Move the kids away from him, honey"

    by angelopoulos

    LMAO. PERFECT. As the Shat once said, "Get a life!" Could not have put it better myself.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Is it too late to give Orci and Kurtzman one more..

    by conspiracy

    big old "FUCK YOU"? Boot licking Hacks.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Who says any of that is supposed to be in Iowa?

    by I Dunno

    Yes, Kirk's from Iowa but when you can get anywhere in the world in a few seconds, I don't think we need to assume that the kid is stuck in Iowa. A better question would be why there are still internal combustion engine cars anywhere but a museum. Where would they get fuel for it? The oil companies would have been out of business centuries ago.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST


    by rogueleader66

    I love how there are so many rocket scientists out there, who can conclude from a two minute trailer that a movie is going to be "worthless", "utter shit", "garbage". ANY movie fan knows trailers are never really a true picture of the quality of a movie. I am not saying you cannot get a slight IDEA of how a movie will be, but get real, how many trailers have looked kick ass and the movie was anywhere from mediocre to terrible? There have also been trailers that made a movie look bad, and then the movie was actually good. But I keep forgetting we are surrounded by brilliance on this site, so many geniuses who claim to always be right in their movie predictions, when of course there is no way to actually substantiate such a claim. I have seen trailers that looked so so or even bad, but still reserved final judgement after seeing the finished product. Things can change from trailer to final cut, we have all seen that before. As a lifelong Trek fan, I am pleased so far with what I have seen, but the problem is I haven't seen much, which is why I cannot understand why all these geniuses on here are so quick to condemn something we still know almost nothing about. Oh wait, I know why, because they are all soooooo much smarter than we are. I have heard all the arguments on here as to why/how you can predict a movies worth from a two minute trailer, but it's all bullshit. But hey, keep it up, it's actually quite entertaining to see these people trying to show how smart and superior they are. As I have said before many times, this site seems to be filled with quite a lot of people who really DON'T like movies, because NOTHING is ever good enough for them, I have never seen so much negativity towards film than I have on here. I am the first to admit that movies are not what they used to be, but having a predisposed hatred of something based on very little information is pretty damn short sighted to me. I will be there opening night, because I, unlike others, know that movies cannot be truly judged until you actually SEE them.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST


    by rogueleader66

    Good posts my friend, I agree with everything you said, I also enjoyed the hell out of the SW prequels. I never went into them expecting a repeat of the first trilogy, and I think that was a contributing factor in my immense enjoyment of them. I am also not going into this new ST movie expecting the Trek I grew up on (I am 42yrs old and have never been truly impressed with anything post ST:TOS). I am expecting ST for a new generation. I do have some expectations, but very few. I applaud you on your posts.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Yes !

    by pumaman

    Looks good from what I can see from the trailer at least. Scotty sounded great and so did old Bones.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Piece of shit....

    by TheWaqman

    I won't even waste my bandwidth on this shit. JJ Abrams is a hack and it shows here. Honestly whats up with the opening, trying to sell him off as a badass.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Name one movie where the trailer sucked

    by I Dunno

    and the movie itself turned out good. If you can, I guarantee it wasn't a big budget movie that can afford dedicated trailer editing houses.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST


    by rogueleader66

    Maybe that was not such a great point because I really cannot think right off of a good movie that had a bad trailer, but if that's all you have to say about what I posted then I must have made some points if that's all you could come up with in response. No disrespect intended, just saying.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Emotinal Young Spock

    by Bumpasses Dawg

    Makes sense. He was a rebel joining Starfleet, and in "The Cage." the pilot where Captain Pike was in command of the Enterprise, Spock even smiles. So it seems cannon that he wouldn't be completely in control of his emotions and his half human side at this early point of his story.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    is it just me or has William Shatner.......

    by D o o d

    Turned into this great big Asshole. I've seen a few interviews with him and he seems like a very bitter old man with a fucked up face. Some people are just not happy with being rich enough or famous enough, they just want more. What an asshole!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Talkback talk trash

    by paleeoguy

    You negative talkbackers crack me up. Seriously. You were the same people bitching about Batman's armor and Heath Ledger before the Dark Knight was released. Now, you whining about Star Trek continuity. Jeezus Christ. You have seen nothing of this film, save three minutes of trailer footage, and you insist on whining about continuity and canon. Guess what? 99.999999% of Earth's current population (including a diehard trekkie like myself) do not care where an imaginary fucking ship was imaginarily fucking built for a space movie. Seriously. What amazes me more is that you're hypocritically bitching about seeing sex scenes in a Star Trek movie with James T. Fucking Kirk in it when you know it's all the action you'll be getting in the year 2009. The lot of you whiny, condescending, negative feedbackers are misogynistic, bitchy asses. Get over it! Go Trek 2009!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    The producers hope you judge film by its trailer

    by kabong

    They want your butts in the seats on opening weekend. <P> That's when they get their biggest percentage of the BO. <P> As for criticism of what we know--or suspect--is coming in this movie, it has to do with respect for the Star Trek concept, not nostalgia for old-time TV.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST

    I'd still like more Deep Space Nine stories...

    by Royston Lodge

    That's still my favourite "era" for Star Trek. Politics, character development, war, etc. Once they got over the season 1/2 growing pains it really got addictive.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    There's not much to do with DS9

    by I Dunno

    Even though Sisko said he'd come back, they pretty much wrapped everything up. And any continuation would require a Star Wars-style opening text trail 20 minutes long. Back in 1998 was the time to do it, a Dominion War movie instead of whatever the hell Trek 9 was about. It could have been a kick ass action movie when people were still waiting for the Star Wars prequels and it could have introduced the DS9 crew for further movies. But that ship sailed.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST

    The major concensus is....

    by Dick Bahls

    this thing is gonna suck major ass!!! This will be JJ's "Speed Racer", with a little "Starship Poopers" mixed in for the people who like to see a mindlees summer movie with the typical young brooding J Crew model cast, but can't afford to hire Tom Cruise. Congrats once again to that crack (as in on) writing team of Kurtzman & Orci.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST


    by Denty420 it's saying the trailer is available in a day. WTF are Paramount playing at?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    oh fuck no!

    by expert_40

    did they just add an extra fucking day to the release of the trailer on the website???<br><br>that bitch was supposed to drop at 1pm TODAY!!!<br><br>Mutha fucka!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    What happened?

    by secretcylon

    No trailer?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    WTF?? "1D 1H 5M"??

    by BenBraddock

    Just tried downloading the trailer in HD and the countdown suddenly reads as above! What gives?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    The timer's going up

    by Chopper3

    I see nothing but poor website planning, I imagine they're just a bit late - I'm sure we'll get the clip in a few minutes/hours.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST


    by JimCurry

    They just fucked ya good! Not me though. I don't really care... (Paramooouuuuuuunnntt!!)

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    What's going on

    by yodaismyhomie

    Why is paramount evil and stupid? There's no new trailer...just the old one and a countdown for the new one tomorrow

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    The major concensus is....

    by Wrecks

    this thing is gonna kick major ass!!! This will be JJ's "Star Trek", with a little bit of "Star Trek" mixed in for the people who like to see a fun popcorn sci-fi movie with a cast that is just about the exact right age to be playing the crew a few years before TOS, and decided not to go with triple A stars so detract from the character building. Congrats to the team involved for making what looks to be an incredible pop sci-fi revamp of a dead franchise. Can't wait!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Weird. The countdown is increasing.

    by Sci_Fi_Wasabe

    Up to 1D, 1H, 7 minutes.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST


    by Zarles

    Trailer please.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    They forget to click UPLOAD?

    by Robnhud


  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    "She cannae take no more Captain!!!"

    by BenBraddock

    Sight overload? BOOOOO!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Dick Bahls: It's spelled "consensus" and...

    by Pdorwick

    ...just because you and a few of your obviously clueless friends agree on something does not make in a "majority".

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Damnit what the FUCK.

    by HoboCode

    I've been holding off o nthe bootleg shit for the HD and now it's in another day! WTF!!!!!!!!!?????????!!!!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Weird math

    by Parallax

    After 0D 00H and 00M it went to 1D 1H and 1M, and has been counting *up* ...calculating negative time, and wrongly to boot. Silly computers... they'll never think like humans.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST


    by smorgasbord

    it's not a countdown, it's a count up

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    That would be "site" not "sight"

    by BenBraddock

    Someone please beam my brain back onboard

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    WTF?? "1D 1H *M"??

    by TheBLIGHT

    Its going up, f*ck that shit, it is climbing up... Can't these nobs count? IT SHOULD GO DOWN BITCHES... Paramount, suck it... And, this from a relative of William Shatner... F*CK U.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    WTF?? "1D 1H 8M"??

    by TheBLIGHT

    Its going up, f*ck that shit, it is climbing up... Can't these nobs count? IT SHOULD GO DOWN BITCHES... Paramount, suck it... And, this from a relative of William Shatner... F*CK U.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    no trailer.

    by awesomebri

    the web guys must be more hung over then me today. i hate mondays.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    I even went to see QofS this weekend...

    by HoboCode

    and my fucking shit theater didn't show the fuckign trailer. Damn you GOD!!!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST


    by TheBLIGHT

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST


    by HoboCode

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Blight, shut up.

    by Zarles

    You are proof positive that people can and will bitch about anything and everything no matter what.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Site's been updated too

    by Robnhud

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST

    I just came.

    by HoboCode

    But why is Spock so PISSED!?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:16 p.m. CST


    by Out of your element

    So awesome! Last time I felt like this was when I saw the phantom menace trailer, except this time it will not suck.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Look At The Colours!!!!

    by Cameron1

    That was fucking purdy. Hope the script is good too.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Running on those shiny floors onboard the Enterprise look danger

    by BenBraddock

    Should keep McCoy busy. I liked this trailer though

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST

    We've got Nimoy, bitches!

    by Zarles

    I'm still not convinced that Shatner isn't going to pop up in this thing somewhere too, but for now, that was Leonard Fucking Nimoy in that trailer for sure. Looks great!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    See, ye of little faith

    by Chopper3

    worth a few minutes extra wait don't you think? I love the shipyards in the distance of the first scenes - presumably the new hole in the ground was dug out to build the Enterprise?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    "I like this ship!"

    by HoboCode

    Pegg is goign to be the shit. Ohura is hot as shit. Eric Bana is a fat evil bastard. Kirk and Spock are bad ass and their back stories look like they will finally get what they deserve. This looks like a slam dunk for JJ!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Shit wouldn't play in Firefox

    by Rat Fink

    Had to use IE. Man Mozilla has really fucked up firefox. Anyways the trailer looks awesome.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Ship building.

    by HoboCode

    I'm a little leary of it being built on Earth. Don't they build them in space?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Criswell Predicts *Potential Spoilers?*

    by JustinSane

    I predict that old Spock going back in time shifts everything around and we'll see him returning to his own time and hanging with old Kirk at the end of the film. The whole Shatner-Abrams feud is a sham. That's my prediction, and I'm sticking to it.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Roll on May!

    by Denty420

    Looking forward to this <br> I just hope it doesn't suffer from the same fate as TPM i.e. people expecting too much from the tailer and the film turning out to be a bag of shite.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Firefox works fine for me.

    by Zarles

    Try updating your version of the browser. If that doesn't work, try using a computer that was built after 1989.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST

    YouTube vs. QuickTime

    by YakMalla

    I've watched both videos, and I think that the QuickTime one is better. If you're trying to decide which one to watch, you should think about what I just said back there.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    The Corvette had an Iowa license plate...

    by Bill Clay

    And it didn't look a mountain cliff he ran over, it looked more like an abandoned mine dug into the ground. Seeing it in HD made it a little less confusing.<p> But still too frenetic and shiny.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST


    by tbdeinc


  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    "too frenetic and shiny"

    by HoboCode

    Oh just STFU. I swear some people just bitch because they can.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Someone said Nimoy was in the trailer?

    by Bill Clay

    Did I miss him in that rush of scenes?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by cutest_of_borg

    Would love to see that - what an ending it would be.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Bill Clay

    by cutest_of_borg

    Pretty sure Nimoy is in the brief scene with back to camera facing Vulcan(?) tribunal.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Nimoy's definitely there.

    by Zarles

    What's more, so is Winona Ryder as his mother, I think. It's a quick shot, but it's definitely in the first third of the trailer after Ferris Tiberius Bueller wrecks his friend Cameron's dad's car.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST

    I can't tell if that's Nimoy or not.

    by HoboCode

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Looks great.

    by DocPazuzu

    Hater trekkies can suck it.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Looks good.

    by Sci_Fi_Wasabe

    Does what a trailer is supposed to do, create excitement and interest. I mean, it could still suck, but it's either this or no trek and it's been a while (longer if you discount Voyager and Enterprise). For everyone bitching about the cast, it looks like they did pretty good. Urban surprised me, jury's still out on Pine and Quinto. It couldn't be the original cast running around a new action movie cause they're too old or dead. I really don't want to see Denny Crane in a Starfleet uniform. I know Nimoy's in it, but it's probably not a big chunk of the movie...bookends or something (I'm avoiding spoilers). TOS went off the air the year I was born and I know way more than I should about the continuity (or lack therof). The first thing I thought of when I realized it was young Kirk driving the car was: Wait a Minute. Why is Kirk driving a car in the 23rd century, and if so why couldn't he in "A Piece of the Action". And do they go into Kirk's youth and the mass murderer Kodos. So I thought about that stuff. But I'm not going to let it get in the way of a good movie, if that's what this turns out to be. Just have to let it go. They may as well have called it Star Trek Begins. Personally, I can't wait until May.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    I've just realized something...

    by Gabba-UK

    All you whining bitchs don't fucking deserve the money and effort that's clearly been given to try and rekindle the dying embers of your 'beloved' franchise. If this film tanks at the box office, which I don't believe for one minute will happen if that trailer is anything to go by, brought down by the negativity you assholes seem determined to heap upon it, then it's game over for Trek and it'll be your fault. Paramount will kill it. No more films, no more series, just constant re-releases on Dvd in different coloured packages. Is that what you want? Trek dead? I don't want that and neither do you (so most of you claim). Am I nervous about what JJ has done? Of course I am! But I will wait till I've seen it to pass judgement on it. I won't use rumour, assumption or panic to base that judgement on, only what I see on 8th May will form my opinion. Even my Mum and my 80 year old Gran and Grandad wants to see that film now after seeing that trailer.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    I think that's Ben Cross with Winona...

    by Bill Clay

    ...playing Sarek. Regarding the Vulcan Tribunal, you can't really tell who it is from the rear. But the way they were lecturing him on being a "part of two worlds" I got the impression it was Quinto playing Young Spock leaving to join Starfleet.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Seeing Pike made me remember...

    by Bill Clay

    Spock was Pike's First Officer before Kirk took command. So if Pike is on the bridge, this story takes place with Kirk, in that weird black shirt, visiting Pike's Enterprise. That would also explain the fighting between Kirk and Spock, if Kirk typically takes charge when Pike becomes incapacitated some way.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Yes it looks pretty

    by kwisatzhaderach

    but its writtn by two hacks with not one decent writing credit to their name. There's only so long you can stay in denial.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Lol... one nitpicky thing out of the way

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    It seems a lot of people were all in a bind over the "cliffs of Iowa" thing. It's a quarry! It wasn't easy to see in the low-res version, but it's clearly a quarry in HD. Quite plausible after all. The only remaining question really is why they're not building Enterprise in space? Does future technology precludes the need to do so? Do I need to worry about that crap? I guess not.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    How can Shatner ever be in these films if Kirk is dead in the fu

    by Smashing

    Maybe old Spock can tell young Kirk not to go on the Enterprise B launch? whilst he is in the past.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Re: Kirk's death

    by kwisatzhaderach

    They should have just ignored all the Rick Berman films and continued the story fom Star Trek VI onwards.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Saw this with QoS...

    by Abominable Snowcone

    And liked it pretty much, but for the bratty kid in the car at the beginning. And the sex scenes. Those just seemed way out of character for a Star Trek film, not that I'd mind it in some other movie.<p> If old Spock visits from the future, maybe he could clue young Kirk in on a few things, like, "Dude...stay away from Carol, or you'll father a son that she will hide from you for 25 years, and who will be killed by klingons while I'm busy undergoing pon-far for the second time after having died and been left on a planet created by scientists...oh, and if some balding man named Picard ever asks you for help, run away."

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Not Nimoy, huh?

    by Zarles

    Oh well. I'm sure it's not the first thing I'll be wrong about with this movie. I still think Shat's gonna turn up in it, though. Firmly convinced of that.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Who says their middle name like that? Space battles look good (so far) but other than that it doesn't feel like a Star Trek Begins. Except for Spock they don't look like any of their counterparts.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    He should've been Reed Richards goddammit!!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack


  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Zoe Saldana is gonna be in the biggest and best movie of 09...


    ... and it ain't STAR TREK - as good as it looks!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Re: Cliffs in Iowa.

    by Smashing

    Didn't the Xindi carve a large new canyon right across America in Enterprise?, maybe this is that canyon, either that or in the future people have the ability to travel fro one state to another, how unrealistic.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    It WAS a quarry.

    by HoboCode

    It's quite clear. Issue resolved. Dead. Fuck off.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST


    by Leafar the Lost

    From the Wikipedia…now I know why he ruined Star Trek… Richard Keith "Rick" Berman (born December 25, 1945 in New York, New York, United States) is an American television producer. He is most famous for his work as the executive producer of the Star Trek series from Star Trek: The Next Generation onwards and essentially succeeded Gene Roddenberry as the head of the franchise, until the cancellation of Star Trek: Enterprise in 2005. Berman graduated from the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 1967 with a B.A. in speech. From 1977 to 1982, he was the senior producer of The Big Blue Marble for PBS. His work won an Emmy for Outstanding Children's Series. Between 1982 and 1984 he was an independent producer. He worked on various projects, including What on Earth, an informational series for HBO, and The Primal Mind, a one-hour award-winning special for PBS. In 1984, Berman moved from New York City to Los Angeles, where he joined Paramount as director of current programming. He oversaw such popular shows as Cheers and MacGyver. In 1987, Berman along with producer Maurice Hurley was selected by Gene Roddenberry to help him create Star Trek: The Next Generation (TNG). Initially, he had supervising producer duties shared with Robert H. Justman. After Justman changed to consulting producer duties, Berman was promoted to co-executive producer. As Roddenberry's health declined; Berman took over more and more of the daily production of the show, and was promoted to executive producer in its third season, following the departure of Maurice Hurley. Berman wrote the 4th season episode, "Brothers", and the 5th season episode, "A Matter of Time". In its final year, The Next Generation became the first ever syndicated television show to be nominated for the Emmy for Best Dramatic Series. Berman went on to executive produce and co-create Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (DS9) with Michael Piller, Star Trek: Voyager with Piller and Jeri Taylor, and Star Trek: Enterprise with Brannon Braga. He is also responsible for the production and receives a story credit on the four TNG movies: Generations (1994), First Contact (1996), Insurrection (1998), and Nemesis (2002). During his tenure, Berman received criticism for his approach to dramatic musical scoring[1]. Ron Jones[2], a composer who worked under Berman, noted that "Ricky Berman always considered music an intrusion, a necessary evil. I now can relate to the poor composers that were brought up before Stalin for being too creative. They were made to apologize for thinking out of the Party line."[3] Expanding on this critique, Star Trek writer David Weddle noted that he believed that the "moribund aesthetics of Rick Berman" were the "constrictions that slowly strangled the franchise." [4] He was initially involved in developing an eleventh Star Trek movie based on a script written by Erik Jendresen; however, when Gail Berman (no relation) took over as president of Paramount Pictures, Jendresen's script was shelved[5]. J. J. Abrams is directing the eleventh Star Trek feature film, which is scheduled for a 2009 release. As he is not involved in the film, and as no TV series is currently in production, Rick Berman has left Star Trek.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    the special effects are fucking amazing.

    by Warcraft

    still looks like a 200 million dollar budget gay porno though.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Exactly what I thought...Looks terrible!

    by careyleefisher

    Man, this thing looks like ass! Hate everything I have seen and now the trailer just confirms it. That line that Urban's McCoy is spouting about space is some of the corniest dialogue I have ever heard in a movie. And he is obviously trying so hard to replicate DeForest Kelly's facial mannerisms that it comes off like a bad parody. Have never been a fan of Simon Pegg so casting him as Scotty never really did anything for me. Hate the new Enterprise for the simple fact that Abrams and Paramount are trying to pass this off as "Star Trek" canon but it has all been changed so much visually that it bears almost no connection to the original series timeline. That was the same problem that "Enterprise" suffered. Why didn't Paramount and Abrams just make a new version of "Star Trek" with new characters and a new timeline? Instead, they use the classic Kirk and Spock characters with recast actors that they had to know would alienate fans of the original series. The trailer is generic, corny and filled with cliche after cliche. And don't tell me I will be in line on opening day just like everyone else. I am sitting this one out! "Star Trek", I am sad to say, is over once this turkey tanks.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    I'm still bugged a bit by the interior design

    by StarWarsRedux

    I mean, seriously. It looks like a cross between "The Island" and the Apple Store in there. I understand why you can't just replicate the original Enterprise bridge and corridors, but I'm having trouble seeing how the 2009 Enterprise is supposed to become the 1960's Enterprise. Continuity is going bye-bye.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST


    by JumpinJehosaphat

    I'd ask who really HAS a middle name like that?! Just because a name is yours doesn't necessarily make it roll off your tongue (or poetry to a listener's ear.) It's a very, very awkward name.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    When this film is a success.

    by Smashing

    Berman will be found in his office, dressed as a Klingon with a Tribble in his mouth and Faith of the Heart on loop.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    When this film is a success.

    by Smashing

    Berman will be found in his office, dressed as a Klingon with a Tribble in his mouth and Faith of the Heart on loop.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    When this film succeeds.

    by Smashing

    Berman will be found in his office, dressed as a Klingon with a Tribble in his mouth and Faith of the Heart on loop.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST


    by JumpinJehosaphat

    With your name, you're worried about a series' continuity? Of course, I poke fun towards you, not at you. It's totally different.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Holy cow it wont stop posting.

    by Smashing

    I only pressed it once and my PC made a vile sound and then went mad, apologies, though what I wrote is funny, hey if Media Messiah can review his own story as great I can big up my lame humour.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Wanna see Johnny Depp as The Mad Hatter??


  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Wanna see Depp as The Mad Hatter??


  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Didn't mean to post twice


  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Roddenberry wasn't a slave to continuity...

    by Bill Clay

    Remember, he radically changed the Klingons for the first motion picture. And his explanation was, "This was how we would have done it if we had the time and money originally." So I'm really not hung up on whether the new 'look' doesn't exactly fit with what's come before.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST


    by krull rules

    Why didn't JJ and the writers create a brand new storyline, brand new characters, US ENTERPRISE, villians within the Star Trek universe? This re-imagining trend in Hollywood (check out Friday the 13th trailer) is obnoxious... With that said - this could possibly be the BEST STAR TREK movie ever made, even better than KHAN...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Completely Unacceptable!

    by Rickey Henderson

    Holy fucking moses on a kangaroo farm, does J.J. Abrams not fathom how CATEGORICALLY UNACCEPTABLE this iteration of Star Trek is to Rickey? The nacelles are all wrong! They're not proper nacelles if Rickey can't see the glue holding them on like in TOS! The cast is Dawson's Creek a-go-go! Where are the motherfucking girdles that Rickey cherishes dearly? Where's Uhura's sweet sweet 80 year old badonkadonk that Rickey loves much like a child loves a slice of warm apple pie? And what's with the gratuitous sex scene? CATASTROPHIC! Does Abrams not realize that a geek like Rickey is completely unaccustomed to seeing the female naked form? Does Abrams not realize that this sight will cause Rickey to begin furiously masturbating in the movie theater?! And what's with all the damned action? Star Trek is about one thing and one thing only: the enterprise's captain and his #2 taking turns relieving themselves of duty FOR AN ENTIRE FUCKING HOUR. Back and forth! And the shields are SLOWLY FAILING! It's INTENSE! Holy fuck, why couldn't Frederico Fellino direct Rickey's precious Star Trek movie? What, he's dead? Fuck you! Rickey deems this movie to be an unmitigated disaster of EPIC PROPORTIONS!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    There Are No Gay Men In Star Trek!!!

    by victor82

    For the Last Time! Starfleet has a strict Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy against Gay Men. <p> Lesbians can join, but no Gay Men. <p> There are loads of Gay Jedi, however. I just wanted to pass that along.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Berman will be found...

    by victor82

    ....with Braga's cock in his mouth.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST

    the monster...Cloverfield?

    by dynamicb

    Did anyone notice the red monster at 01:38? Kina looks like Cloverfield doesn't it?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST

    "I'm James Tiberius Kirk!"

    by My Mom Is A Whore

    "No, you're not. You're an annoying little shit and I hope cybercop sticks his cybercock up your ass and turns on the drill function."

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST


    by Zarles

    I might've been wrong about Nimoy, but there are KLAXONS in this motherfucker. Let us rejoice.<p>Rickey, fuck off. Nobody cares.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Saw it

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    That was loud. And explosive. More thoughts I come up with them. Maybe.

  • They love that shit

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:24 p.m. CST


    by rogueleader66

    I agree 100%, if you see my posts above. I am sick of the whiney, negative, hateful assholes on here who really have no love for film and pass themselves off as know it alls. Judging a film on tow minutes of footage is so short sighted it isn't even funny. But let the cry baby bitches keep ranting, it gives us more rational folks some entertainment.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST


    by Rickey Henderson

    Congrats on being a humorless idiot. Rickey pities you and your unfamiliarity with the wondrous world of sarcasm.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST


    by fxmulder35

    Get the fuck OVER it geekboys! Nothing stays the same. You wanna see a new Star Trek movie? Well, this is it. Your chance. Roddenberry played with continuity anytime it served his purpose. So, just go with it. Enjoy the ride. I, for one, am hoping for a kick-ass, fast paced movie. Something that we've NEVER seen from a Star Trek. Don't get me wrong, I love my trek. Love the pseudo/high-brow crap...but action is nice sometimes. And I WILL be there opening weekend. Wonder if they are doing anything for IMAX?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST


    by MichaelCorleone

    I love how everyone claims this is killing Star Trek when the franchise was run into the ground years ago. You also can't bitch about it being too commercial or flashy because that ship sailed a long time ago with other films and series. You are lucky you're even getting this version.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    I couldn't agree with Rickey more....

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    ... about Uhura's sweet sweet 80 year old badonkadonk. You can almost TASTE the Metamucil!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Why not make a new Star Trek?

    by Jam Banjo

    Because no-one other than trek fans will watch it! Because they're trying to make this a film people will enjoy without having to know the entire fictional history of the 23rd century as some of you dorks seem to pride yourselves on knowing. Fuck continuity! Star Trek contradicts itself more than the fucking bible - I can't believe that whilst people are spending time, money and effort trying to update a franchise and make it cool and fun for the general public some trekkies are complaining about it! Are you so scared about not being consider a total fucktard that you have to shit on film you haven't seen?! As long as you dicks don't sit through the film commenting on how it disrupts the continuity of a television show made 50 years ago, you might even walk out of that theatre into a world where people don't cross the street to beat you up whilst you're wearing a Starfleet uniform. Actually, don't wear the uniform anyway, it might help. Star Trek could be a bit cool! And you're complaining?!?!? I can't fucking wait, it looks boss.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Needs shots of molten steel being poured...

    by Darth_Inedible

    The whole sweaty guys welding thing reminds me of a Chevy truck commercial from 1998. THE ENTERPRISE: BUILT FORD TOUGH.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST


    by MichaelCorleone anyone else not seeing the new trailer? I hit trailer 2 hd and it brings up the first teaser and under trailer 1 you have the cloverfield trailer? The fuck?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST

    A Note to Purists...

    by DS9Sisko

    If you want the same sets and design aesthetic, the same costumes, casting choices carrying the Geek/Nerd Approval Seal, and the whatever else that matches canon and/or TOS, there are two suggestions: pony up $200 and make your own fucking Trek movie OR check out any number of the $1.98 budgeted fan films that take 5 1/2 years to make per scene available on the internet. Personally as a Trek fan, I'll see the movie and then pass judgement and not engage in this masturbatory bitchin' that goes on here make the guys from Big Bang Theory look like a cross between MI6 and the dudes from Gossip Girl. Jesus, take the wheel!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST


    by papawapa

    Head of Star Fleet Academy: "Kirk is too old to begin the training" Obi Spock: "But Kirk has the highest midichlorian count ever recorded. Higher even than Captain Pike."

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    More thoughts

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    We shouldn't have seen Kirk as a kid.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one....

    by Ravyn

    Who's getting the first trailer (Construction)under Trailer 2 and a damn Cloverfiled trailer as trailer 1?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST

    HD trailers...

    by Ravyn

    are boned beyond belief

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    I'm getting those crappy trailers too

    by kendragon

    Man this is a pain in the ass.. I want to view the HD trailers and someone seems to have fucked it up. Or is this some kinda of 'hilarious' joke.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST


    by dengreg31

    I've been a huge fan of Trek for decades, and while I don't own any vulcan ears or replica captain jerseys, I've enjoyed it casually off and on since TOS. Two things... 1. That trailer is pretty sweet. And they still have 6 months to work on effects, etc... I don't get all the negativity here... 2. Let me get this straight... you WANT them to do a movie with the original sets and effects and ship design? For god's sake, WHY?? That would truly suck.. can't you just give in to the conceit that time has moved on and effects have improved a billionfold... why is it so important that the nacelles on the ship must stay the same?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Flying and Drinking, Drinking and Driving and Etc.

    by chrth

    Methinks JJ Abrams read The Right Stuff

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Not hating... just waiting...

    by TylerDurden3395

    I have ZERO expectations for this, but I'll still see it opening day. I always thought a Starfleet Academy movie SOUNDED cool. Still too early to tell...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    The HD links are fucked

    by eXcommunicated

    What the hell? All the HD links on the Quicktime site point to the wrong trailers. OOPS! But this looks very very good. I can't wait.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST


    by kendragon

    This would make a great Galaxy Quest 2 ;p

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Zarles, you are a Douche...

    by TheBLIGHT

    This is a Star Trek talkback, not a "I don't like what he/she said" blah-blah fest. You have the right to say what you want, but jeez, do you have to tell other people to shut up? Chill out and talk about Trek.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    HD Trailers are all wrong!

    by Evil Sean

    Which dumbass at Apple linked the wrong trailer?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield HD problem

    by mraig

    The link is wrong for all of the HD versions of the trailer, linking either to the Cloverfield trailer or the earlier teaser trailer. But the right files for the HD version are there on the server, able to be accessed. You just have to use the wrong filename to figure out the right name. E.g. is the correct link for the 720p version (the wrong link points to the same thing but with 'tlr1' instead of 'tlr2'. Just go to that URL in your browser, or put that URL into the "open URL" section of the Quicktime player.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:27 p.m. CST


    by FamousEccles

    all the HD versions of trailer 1 are showing the Cloverfield trailer on the official site for the new Star Trek

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST



    ...Pine is just too pretty-would have preferred an actor with a little more physical maturity-hopefully his acting will make up for this, but at the moment he is at the centre of the Trek Creek vibe I'm getting.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    these talkbacks are sausage fests

    by FamousEccles

    why do I never see contributions from females, who could at least make their comments intelligent and witty!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST


    by Wrecks

    What the fuck with all the people hating younglings? Are movies just supposed to completely ignore one of the largest movie going demographics? Especially a movie aimed at bringing the glory of Trek to a younger generation? Were all you people birthed as Adults from a test tube? WTF? And the ages are just right for a story that takes place proior to TOS... Seriously WTF???

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    mraig, your sound!!

    by FamousEccles

    which is Irish awesome!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    mraig, your sound!!

    by FamousEccles

    which is Irish awesome!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST


    by FamousEccles

    Meant which is Irish for awesome - see a chick would ype that right!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    The most unrealistic thing about this...

    by guido505

    Is that after letting a 300 year old Corvette drop over a cliff Kiddie Kirk lived long enough to make it into Starfleet. I'm just sayin.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    see what I mean

    by FamousEccles

    a chick would be able to type the word type

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    mraig that ain't workin' for me, brother!!

    by FamousEccles

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    The 1960s Corvette

    by eXcommunicated

    Why are people so up in arms about this? lol... "It's unrealistic!" You people ever heard of kit cars? It could simply be a replica, and in Star Trek times I see no reason why Kirk (or his dad) couldn't get his hands on a suitable amount of hydrocarbons to run the thing. Even if it is a "vintage" vette, maybe his dad collects old "automobiles." Some of you people are pretty weak.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST


    by medicinaluser

    Even all the Trekkies in the world turning out for this film will NOT be enough to make it a a success and Paramount know this which is why they NEED non-trekkies to embrace the movie. <BR><BR> For non-fans or fans of a good sci-fi actioner like myself the fact even trekkies don't like this does make me ponder why I would even want to see it, but then I could set that aside if it did'nt look like such a cheesy piece of shit. <BR><BR> Fuck this all non-trekkies want is a Galaxy Quest sequal not this 60's bullshit but with todays CGI nonsense.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Hey eXcommunicated.

    by guido505

    Settle down man, the Corvette comment was a joke. Take it as such. I'm probably as tired as you are of people getting so up in arms over this. It's a movie, not real life.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Who knows? Certainly not this crowd!

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    The same people talking out of their asses here are the same people who wonder why studio executives make so many poor decisions. Most of the people here don't know jack shit about the movie biz, and would make the same, if not worse, executive decisions given the power to do so. Most here need to just calm down and realize your opinion is merely that and not gospel.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    HD is fixed on apples site now

    by kendragon

    For those who were waiting

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:17 p.m. CST

    In regards to the car scene

    by d_fens1969

    Too obvious, too cliched, too much like a Surge commercial from 1995.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:19 p.m. CST

    That picture of a city on Vulcan looks like an Escher drawing...

    by blackmantis

    Weird perspectives going on there. I think the trailer kicks ass, but I'm not a Trek purist, just a fan on TOS and the movies.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST


    by Out of your element

    Why the fuck are all you people passing judgement on a film that is'nt even out yet? And wont be for months? And looks ridiculously awesome?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Out of your element

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Probably because its written and directed by hacks.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    This Trailer is not aimed just at "fans"........

    by u.k. star

    The Trailer to get "fans" interested in the movies, was the 1st 1. Or this, it's about 10 seconds long and goes... (Goldsmith intro... STAR TREK.. 08.05/09 (that's the 8th of May in English American friends) End of trailer. There that's the $75m - $150m worldwide gross the "fans" will generate depending on whether it's poorly liked (Nemisis / Trek V etc) or loved. So, great then, that's justified the cost eh lads? No, not really, would we be seeing another Iron man if it had grossed $120m worldwide? Would there have been a Dark Knight if Begins had made similar money? Of course not. Like it or not this film HAS to attract moviegoers OUTSIDE of the Trek "fanbase" Oh be sure they want the fans too, but if they have a movie with a potential to gross $500m or ore worldwide (not saying it will but ..) and you say to them, well we'll have to take $120m away because the old fans won't come, they'd bite your hand off for that remaining $380m right now. Just because the trailer (made to attract NON Trek people) has flashy, summer blockbuster elements, DOES NOT mean that's all is in the film. A talky, character driven trailer NOW, at this point, in front of the biggest film of the past few months you are just showing a lot of your potential audience that here comes another tv movie, with a few extra quid thrown at it, pretending to be a real movie (Like it or not this is exactly how may Trek films are viewed). This is the right trailer, for the right time. I haven't seen the film, neither have you guys. It may be the best Trek film yet, it may be one of the worst. I doubt it, I genuinely think the least it will be is fun. Remember most movies are suppossed to be FUN. I hope it will be a goof film, but I expect at least a good / entertaining movie. I still find it odd how many people can judge the plot / characterisation etc based on this trailer, and why so many people seem to hate "young" people? There not even young, there late 20s early 30s! 3 years or oooooooohhhhh 8 years younger than their counterparts. In many cases trying to "look" younger than they really are to fit the films age. As for the hate pouring down on the poor kid, what's the problem there? I feel like crewman Guy from Galaxy Quest. "did you guys ever watch the show?" The one I loved, with the whole working together, where they had Russians, and Women, and Black people in actual positions of power. You know the whole tolerance thing. Some of the stuff on here is truly sad. Like the new film, hate the new film, but see it and form an opinion please. Please stop the homophobic, anti youth rants. I know, I know. It's an internet talkback, swearing, and hatred and bile. oh my.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:28 p.m. CST

    "Reinvisioned "my ass.

    by Scared Crab

    I'll be there...I'll see this movie. But, I have a bad feeling about this.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST


    by Out of your element

    Leonard nimoy is in it, so I'm happy. I really dont care about Shatner. He's had his glory days, and yes his "acting" has pretty much typified the character. But I think Chris Pine might be able to bring something extra to the role.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST


    by Out of your element

    How is jj a hack, kwisatz?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    RE:u.k. star

    by medicinaluser

    Bruce Greenwood sounds so pervy in the trailer he is the Spottswoode character from Team America <BR><BR> You've always had a hard time finding your place in the world, hav'nt you.Never knowing your true worth, you can settle for a less than ordinary life or do you feel you were meant for something better....something special..... <BR><BR>Let me explain to you the kind of man you need to be James T Kirk. A man who knows that when you put another man's cock in your mouth, you make a pact. A bond that cannot be broken. You need to be a man so dedicated that you will get down on your knees and put that cock right in your mouth.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    The trailer's cool,but...

    by Zardoz

    ...the Corvette scene and the "I'm James Tiberius Kirk, bitch!", line really had me cringing. (I mean, not only is a Corvette an antique in Kirk's time, it's a freaking pre-historic relic. Seriously? Driving a 300+ year-old car? After WWIII and every other bad, Khan-ian thing that happened on Earth in 300 years? Yeah, right!) Everything else looks like some good eye-candy, at least. I've got my fingers crossed!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Here's where I stand:

    by TylerDurden3395

    Casual fan of TOS. Never dug TNG and beyond (with the exception of occasionally checking out Enterprise to ogle Jolene Blalock). Enjoy the feature films immensly. Wrath of Khan is one of my all time favorites and I may be the only human in existence who prefers Nemesis over First Contact just cuz it was more or less Wrath of Khan with the Next Gen cast (so that may negate my opinion to several Trekkies). <p> My thoughts on the trailer: Crappy looking. That's okay though because I'd rather see a bad trailer than a bad movie anyday. Besides, I've seen the last 6 films in the theater, why should this one be any different.

  • It sold it to me. That, and Simon Pegg.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    My favourite Orci quote

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Mr. Orci and Mr. Kurtzman were cautious about taking on “Transformers,” after being offered the assignment by Steven Spielberg. “We wanted to make sure that he really wanted a character story,” Mr. Orci said, “and it wouldn’t just be a giant toy commercial.”

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Out of your element

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Take a look at MI:3. If that isn't the work of a hack I don't know what is.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Out of your element

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Glad you didn't argue about Kurtzman and Orci being hacks.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST


    by darthwaz1

    JJ has officially changed Star Trek into Star Wars!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST


    by andrew coleman

    But this looks cool. Stop bitching about the cast, all you guys trying to look hard by saying "they gayed it up" it looks like that because you want it to. Go see a head shrink or just come out of the closet already. This is what needed to happen to Trek, this movie will actually get people into theaters.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    if JJ is such a hack and your such a sad trekkie

    by bongo123

    how come Mi3 grossed $397,850,012 and probably the same amount on DVD... yeah what a hack, thankgod he made this movie, if it was made for the bloody fans only the thing would look like shit and bomb leaving us with no trek at all, at least this looks bloody cool and im willing to bet make a ton of money which will equate to more movies using the same crew with lots more hilarity from the trekkies as they cry into spaceabics about the spaceship not looking retro enough

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:15 p.m. CST

    to all you corvette haters

    by believe_it

    suck my balls. do you really think that ALL the classic cars (and there are enough to fill hundreds of parking lots all over the world) will somehow be gone in the next century, two centuries, three centuries? and that weird or strange feeling you got watching the trailer that you're confusing for hate: it's called originality and you can't deal with it. imagine a star trek film (outside of khan) not influenced, ejaculated on, written or directed by the likes of leonard nimoy, william shatner, jonathan frakes, brent spiner, rick berman, brannon braga or patrick stewart. you can't. because you're idiots. and you've spent your entire fandom justifying some really bad storytelling decisions to appease all those aging celebrity egos. nimoy is in this one but that's all he is: in it.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    This POS is Going To Make Blood Ocean look like the Titanic

    by Mr.LordBronco

    Haha newbs-that was an adult Swim underefernce!!! LOL, The Metalocalyspe Has Begun!!! God that was a weak and embarassing trailer- There are no cliffs in IOWA and when you get pulled over cops say things like "License and registration please" I'm James EMO Kirk!!! Ha ha ha -MLB

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    a whole different Trek (and that's ok)!

    by smudgewhat

    i'm a huge fan of TOS, TNG, DS9, and i think visually this looks very exciting. i have no idea if the story will or acting will be up to snuff and will withhold any predictions on that. Chris Pine was good in 'smoking aces', an otherwise forgettable movie. i think he has the chops. but it really is a reinvention and i think i'm ok with that. was tired of the production design of the TNG/DS9/VOY/Ent era. it really DID need a reboot, and a nice budget. it's worth it just to see a whole different take on the franchise. i like the idea of 'action Sulu'. he seems much more serious - different vibe. Spock is younger and therefore less disciplined, and possibly more dangerous. i accept this conceptually too. the old trek will always be there to look back on. but those actors have mostly come and gone, as of course they someday would. why not take a new stab...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    The vintage car, mototcycle, leather jacket are in it

    by kabong

    because JarJar doesn't know how to make a science-fiction Star Trek.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Witholding judgment

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    For everyone getting all lathered up over the movie, I say at least give it a chance. Some Trekkies have been going apeshit over the casting, but why? Everybody who's ever blogged about the casting of Spock has seen Zachary "Sylar" Quinto's name come up more than once, Simon Pegg is a geek hero, Karl Urban was in two LOTR movies and a Bourne movie, Eric Bana is a legitimate actor, as is Winona Ryder, and any die-hard fan of TV show "House" can attest to the fact that there's more to John Cho than his "Harold" role (and no, I'm not getting him mixed up with Kal Penn; Cho was in a standalone episode back a year or two ago). So, give it a chance. Hell, even if it's just a revved up blockbuster without the depth of the original Trek series, at least it could be entertaining. And that would be saying a hell of a lot more than the last few ST movies (or the last few series, for that matter). Could it be a piece of shit? Sure, but it's way too early to tell from this trailer.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Hi Def...

    by quantize

    yep FX look great, character/casting/script ? nobody does look a little guess is that this would be the only element that could unravel this thing and make the negatives triumph and the 'I'm there!' crowd eat humble pie shit. This far out though..lets hope the marketing is a sign of certainly was deluded with Cloverfield...which was an ace for dummies and a POS for anyone with an IQ above 2

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:41 p.m. CST


    by quantize

    people love shit you dickwad.. now tell me how McDonalds is the ultimate culinary experience (too big a word for ya?)

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST

    also, is there a danger that fanboys...

    by smudgewhat

    will lose credibility over time as an online 'voting block' if every talkback for every movie is filled with 50% venom and personal insults for the filmmakers?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST


    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Not to be THAT guy, but Robert April is the first Captain of the Enterprise. I think that was only mentioned in the books though, but why do they write this stuff down if only to contradict it? Still, it looks very much like the first movie did back in 79, awe-inspiring.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:43 p.m. CST

    My Turn For Shallow Comments....

    by LeftFoot

    The scenes with a very young Kirk is for two main reasons: help hook young people (hoping to milk ST for a few more decades) and, if the film is big, we just might "Early James Kirk".<P> They have to fill that up coming Smallville opening with something.<P> Anyone remember when Ugly Betty's sister first came to her job? "It looks like gay Star Trek."<P> These new 'updated' views of the ship do have a rounded walls, plastic look to them.... Oh, God, wait.., I feel it coming "UGLY KIRKboy".

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    it looks as if a young James T. Kirk


    unleashes TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION on the tits of young Uhura.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST

    the car makes sense people!

    by darthwaz1

    remember wrath of khan? we all know Kirk is a collector of antiques. He's got them all over his home, and doc gives him the glasses as part of his collection. An antique car fits his character!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    James Tiberius Kirk, BITCH!

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    That'd've been cool.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST

    "RE:u.k. star by medicinaluser" ????????

    by u.k. star

    That has got what to do with anything I said?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Lucas turned Star Wars into Star Trek so turnabouts fair play.

    by Smashing

    Trade Federations with Red, Gold and Blue markings, techno babble and Wesley Vader, Trek has stolen back and may be the cooler for it.<P>Tylerdurden I like the space fights in Nemesis right until Picard, A-Lets someone be sucked into space without the slightest attempt to beam him back and B-then crashes the ship, to little effect, whereas if the Picard maneuver had been performed and the nacelles released as the ship stopped that would have taken care of the issue, call that the smashing maneuver.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Top Stories

    by Don Lockwood

    So, how is this not in the Top Stories column?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST


    by Zarles

    Believe me, the minute I see some quality sarcasm-based humor, I'll be the first one to laugh at it.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:15 p.m. CST

    kabong, a little literature lesson for you

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    At the heart of all good fiction, science or otherwise, is the notion that it's relevant to an audience despite it's time or place. How a set is dressed, how a character is costumed, all of these things are merely the thin layer of paint given to adjust the perspective. Dwelling on the props means you're not in it for the story, and have little understanding of narrative.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Correction: "...its time or place."

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    Broke my own its/it's pet peeve....

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Lay off the spaceburgers, fatty.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:21 p.m. CST

    BendersShinyAss: Thanks!!!

    by Media Messiah

    Thank you for your kind words on my Star Trek treatment. Like the new Star Trek, I think that is where the Star Wars Prequels went wrong, we knew what the characters were supposed to be, but they failed to give us a twist on those characters. Maybe Obi Wan could have been shown as less than an honorable man...a renegade Jedi who had become jaded...and who regularly broke Jedi rules...perhaps even having an affair with Padme at some point, while Anakin is away on a mission? Maybe we learn there is some uncertainty about who the father of Padme's child (children as we later learn) really is...something that drives Anakin over the edge with jealousy and toward the dark side. I think that a Prequel needs something that challenges what the audience thinks they know about a character or characters, not serve up a variation of more of the same.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Trailers can be deceiving. The only promising thing was the space battle and Bruce Greenwood. Everything else was SHIT. I'll wait for your review - you're my movie taster hehe.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    It's Watto. Padme loves her some Watto!!!!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by medicinaluser

    Next on Maury/Jerry we have Padme who is here to prove to her possesive partner Anakin once and for all he IS the father of her unborn children and not *cut to backstage* ObiWan.<BR><BR> Maury: So Padme why not just wait until the kids are born and if they dont have beards we will know all is ok.<BR><BR>Padme: Well frankly if something isnt done now I fear Ani (screaming from backstage) *its Anakin you bitch whore* ..sorry Anakin may go all sith bad on us.<BR><BR> I give, really do only Joss Wheeeedon can save you now....holy shit wait thats it they SHOULD have got him to reboot Trek.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Needs more Chest Bumping Fat Klingons.

    by Laserbrain

    Still not retarded enough yet.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:44 p.m. CST

    After watching it in glorious Quicktime...

    by Royston Lodge

    1) I dislike Kirk. 2) I wish Bones had a stonger Southern accent. 3) Bruce Greenwood looks old! 4) What is that big "thing" on the horizon in the Corvette shots?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Please oh please....

    by ops2

    Find me a link that does a full review from a 1:43 second trailer.Can't find one can you. Theres a reason dontcha think... Thank you "Kirk out"

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Give me a break.

    by viola123

    That is all. That trailer was... not good. I don't recognize any of the characters. James T. Kirk was never like that and I just can't imagine the Kirk we know/knew was once... this guy.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST

    I guess

    by ops2

    so many people on this forum has seen the WHOLE movie thank you oh thank you for saving me $10. Or maybe most people are psychic or work for Bad Robot. I wish I had peoples talent for taking an under 2min trailer and being able to know the whole movie script, story and shots.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST

    The reason he is driving an old car is because...

    by wackybantha

    ...little Kirk went back in time and he stole the car. The scary guy chasing him is a TIMECOP!!! Didn't you know that Jean Claude Van Damme is in this thing?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    nerds nerds nerds

    by BurgerKing

    will never be pleased unless spock comes to suck their dick himself.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Producers dwelliing on props and tropes

    by kabong

    that belong in (and were probably culled from) other movies because they're too lazy to really get into Star Trek narrative is that to which I object. <P> If they put some effort into visualization of what 23rd century Earth would be like, they might strike closer to a Star Trek movie worthy of the label. Instead, they resort to the same-old rebel teen in leather jacket on a motorcycle. They could plug that shot into any movie set after 1900 -- and they probably will, over and over again. <P> They are deliberately constraining the imaginative-space for audiences, conditioning people to accept, submit, obey. <P> Much better would be an opening scene of Ensign Jim Kirk on the run from Orion criminals on a planet of exotic beauty hundreds of light years from Earth. <P> But that might look too different. Somebody might get confused.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 7:49 p.m. CST

    why is he driving an old car

    by BurgerKing

    because it's not from the future, it's from the past, therefore it is perfectly reasonable and possible for it to happen. What, old things don't exist today? Fuck people

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:02 p.m. CST


    by Don Lockwood

    That big "thing" is probably a Starfleet building or the shipyard. You don't just see it in the Corvette scenes, but also later in the motorcyle-to-the-shipyard scene.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:03 p.m. CST


    by Don Lockwood

    and seriously, when will there be a decent talkbalk section here? Threaded replies? Editing? SOMETHING?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST


    by flossygomez

    "That's not a natural cliff/canyon you fucking idiots" Thank you, I saw that right away and wonder how all these other idiots can walk and feed themselves.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Gee, grandpa Greenwood looks like Pike . . .

    by Wonderthump

    AFTER the accident. Just saying.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Medicinaluser: Oh Yeah...

    by Media Messiah

    ...but you know, Ani's trigger to go bad wasn't much of one...and we needed to see something that pushes him over the edge that one could understand. It should have been written more as a Greek Tragedy...or Shakespear like Othello. Wouldn't it have been interesting if Obi Wan was killed and later replaced with a clone??? In that way, we would have been taken off guard and would have assumed that anyone was up for grabs and that would have added suspense to the film and made you care more about the action as it unfolded. Wouldn't it have been interesting if the Emperor turned out to be a clone of Obi Wan or the original Obi Wan gone bad...and the Obi Wan we know and love is merely a clone??? That would have shaken things up, discovering that the head of the Senate whom we assumed would become Emperor Palpatine was misdirection, no, the person who would be Emperor is really someone we wouldn't expect. Instead, we never got a chance to fear for the characters because we knew how everything would turn out. We knew that Anakin and and Obi Wan would survive every battle. I'm not saying that it is a perfect idea, but this would have really shaken things up.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:32 p.m. CST

    My hopes couldn't be lower.

    by TheRealRatigan

    It's like watching the most expensive Hollywood self-parody ever seen.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:35 p.m. CST

    "double-fist" move to the back

    by LarryTate

    hahaha... I tried to incapacitate a cop in Tijuana with that classic move- it didn't work. Damn you Kirk!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 8:45 p.m. CST

    so.. it seems the story goes

    by LarryTate

    <p> 1) Kirk steals classic car in some brilliantly genius (but unlawful) way.</p> <p> 2) Kirk goes before a judge who orders him to 'use his gifts for good' and makes him enlist in Starfleet</p> <p> 3) Time passes (insert Survior tune here) and Kirk is now given his command of the Enterprise. Here he meets all our favorite characters.</p> <p> Does this the whole Pike story didn't happen?</p> <p>Is this the 2nd Enterprise being built or the first?</p> <p>Is Kirk given the flagship right out of the academy? </p> <p>Spock- It's pure beef.... baby</p>

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:17 p.m. CST

    85% of a quality movie is in the writing

    by RandySavage

    Orci and Kurtzman are a pair of CWTV writers (Xena & Hercules) who have never written a quality film script. Don't get your hopes up. This plotting & dialogue will be as horrid as that in Transformers.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Blood Ocean!!!

    by Mr.LordBronco

    -The only travesty that was luckily destroyed before unleashed upon theaters! But no seriously, I vote with the trek/plants apologists-I'm sure this one will be much better than Generations... Oh wait, That's wrong-this movie... Will feature Zahhz! It will feature Space Vikings, Serial Killers, lots of murder and millions of dollars of special effects!!! I will not pay admission until I see one thousand posts on these forums declaring that this movie was the best retcon/re-imaging/reboot evah! The Metalocaplypse has Begun! The U.S. Navy has recently introduced new rules for the the assessment of possible Naval Cadets: 1) They will not drive out of date sports cars over non-existent cliffs. 2) They will only reply to queries from law enforcement officials with rank and serial number designations. To be exact, they will never divulge middle names or significant mission information. 3) They will not be brooding emo loners who cannot obviously be a part of a team that obviously the Navy requires. 4) If said candidates pass the first 3 rules, they will be awarded a brand new I-Phone looking Starship. Said Starship can actually attain "Warpspeed" as well as "Raise Shields" if and only if Simon Pegg is present. Given all these conditions, it is hoped that all candidates for Galactic Naval Recruitment have the best of luck. That is all, Admiral Mr. Lord Bronco!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:36 p.m. CST

    You can't blame Orci & Kurtzman for Transformers

    by zooch

    In the end, it's all Michael Bay's fault. He gets the final say in everything.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Top up - top down?

    by BlindOgre

    Anyone notice how the top is up on the 'vette at the start and down by the time mini-Kirk commits the mortal sin of smahing said 'vette? Point is, there's still a lot to reveal that this sliced up trailer has shown. I'm old enough to remember TOS when it was new... The level of execution of this movie looks to be what I was hoping for ever since... even as a science-nerd kid I though the original Enterprise was not very elegant... and have not liked the newer ships much. This one I like. JJ is pretty dang sharp - don't judge harshly so soon... Time will tell. But then we can go back in time and re-tell it, just to mess with the universe... but that's another story. Of course, such time manipulation does not work on Post talkback or Send Email button. Those are eternally out of sync with the universe of intention.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Pretty Kirk

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    What is up with fanboys not being able to stand attractive leading males in movies? You do realize that Shatner was an attractive young actor in his day, right? Or is it that fanboys feel somehow threatened by anyone who looks better than them? This talkback is a sociological study waiting to be a master's thesis! Cue homophobic responses in 3...2...1...

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:48 p.m. CST

    The Island could have been good

    by zooch

    Written by Orci & Kurtzman. Ruined by Michael Bay.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:55 p.m. CST

    MI:3 worked

    by zooch

    Because the action scenes were top notch, and because J.J. Abrams applied his TV sensibilities to a movie based on a TV show. Which is exactly why Trek may work too.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Raping my dad's childhood

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Everything old is new and old again

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:29 p.m. CST


    by conspiracy

    That's like saying..."we were only doing what we were told". That excuse didn't work for Goering..and it doesn't work for that holocaust of a script that Orci and Kurtzman unleashed upon Transformers.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:52 p.m. CST

    They cut the Corvette opening...

    by Zardoz

    from the commercial during Terminator tonight. Was it for time or because people hate it and they know that they hate it?

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 10:53 p.m. CST

    trek season 3: remastered...

    by darthwaz1

    comes out tomorrow on dvd by the way.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Dude, Trekkies suck

    by Alpha Trion

    its entertainment. get a life. ive watched every star trek episode and thats because its been around since ive been born. which means its supposed to be around forever. do the trekkies just want more enterprise and voyager? eventually it all comes back to the originals. those characters provided good entertainment as well as theyre prodigies TNG. ive seen all those as well. im looking forward to a retelling of the original series. of course you realize that with this changing the past shit that they can easily void everything that came before it allowing for another 10 years of movies that slowly get worse. we need a BSG updating of the star trek universe. all new characters and hundreds of years beyond TNG. it SCI FI dammit! go for the gold!

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:22 p.m. CST

    PUSSY AND ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Illuminate

    Star Trek always looked like a second rate version of Star Wars when it came to scale. That LOSER-ASSHOLE Rick Berman BUTT FUCKED us for an entire decade after TNG went off the air. The only idiots who are complaining are those who do not like the summer blockbuster. Which is like saying you don't like to get presents on Christmas. You can go and watch your pathetic bullshit faggety ass dramatic films that no one watches you fucking pussy.. When Enterprise the series came out Rick Berman said that Archer would be like Captain Kirk. The rebel who gets plenty of pussy at every space port. Man was he a liar. He proved that he is a square ass fart. I am now a fan of JJ Abrams since, he kept kirk a rebel and he is getting to sleep with hot women. If you are complaining about the sex than you are a closet fagget who wants a dick up your ass plus, you don't know Star Trek. I have seen every episode of the old Trek, TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise and I love this trailer. This is the old TV show the way it should have been on the big screen. I want Kirk to kick butt, sleep with plenty of women and then give the order to hit light speed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they have an R-Rated version but, that is asking to much. I'm happy but, I hope they push the sex and violence as far as it will go on an pg-13 rating to show how James T. Kirk is on the big screen vs. what they couldn't show on the small screen. It was on the TV show but, was seriously lacking in the previous films.

  • Nov. 17, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Even better in HD!!

    by thot

    The detail is glorious! No doubt a stunning looking film with top notch fx. I've got a real good vide about this one.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 12:34 a.m. CST

    screw the haters...

    by deanbarry

    this will be blockbuster entertainment at it's finest. that trailer was like a hooker licking my balls...and then paying ME money.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Hacking at that O.A.K. tree

    by Johnnie Walker

    Orci-Abrams-Kurtzman: great pitchers, but can't hit a damn thing.<p><p>Of course this thing LOOKS good--they spent $150mil and shot for 9 fucking months. You'd hope they could get 2 minutes of cool shots together. <p><p>Too bad everything relating to the mighty O.A.K. tree looks like Singer's "Star Trek Returns."

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 1:35 a.m. CST

    PUSSY AND ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by I am the Terminator

    two things Illuminate will never see!<P>LOL

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 1:41 a.m. CST

    would you suck off...

    by Prossor

    young kirk or shat kirk if given the choice?

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 2 a.m. CST

    we need more pussy

    by Gorgomel

    Kirk will bang Uhura and Spock will be butt fucked by a hairy klingon!

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 3:06 a.m. CST

    it looks quite good to me

    by gomez33

    I fucking hate Star Trek, its one of the worst TV shows in the fucking world but this doesn't look to bad. I don't see what peoples problem is with it. The original show was complete shit.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 3:21 a.m. CST

    "Trek is something that some people might expect to be a kind of

    by u.k. star

    ...................a kind of low energy experience. I'm hoping people who see the action here, who maybe have pre judged what Trek is, will open their eyes a little wider and say 'oh, that's not what I thought it was going to be.'" Which is pretty much J J echoing what some of us have ben saying in this talkback. All here

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST


    by Lou Stools

    It's amazing how Star Trek brings out all the repressed homosexuality around here.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Randy Savage.

    by Smashing

    In your opinion why is the dialogue and plotting in Transformers horrid?<P>You stated so without a single point to back your thoughts up with, is this the modern net people spewing pseudo clever sounding critiques with little or nothing to back that opinion up?, weird.<P> It's like being seen to sound clever is more important than actually being so, no wonder the younger generations are so fucking thick.

  • Here's hoping The Powers That Be take notice and cut the entire sequence out of the actual movie.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Just saw the trailer in HD

    by Jodet

    This is the Trek movie I've been waiting for since May 25th, 1977. FINALLY. Someone says, 'let's make a Trek movie with the budget and vision of a Star Wars movie'. Thank you J.J.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Gives me hope for a big budget Quark!

    by JumpinJehosaphat

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST


    by ArcadianDS

    William Shatner was cast in the original series because he was at that time the #1 Hollywood heart-throb in America. He was the George Clooney of his era. Essentially, it was a stunt casting in order to get women to watch the show. Thats why the original role of Pike was recast from the first pilot for the series. He didn't have enough sex appeal.<p> So can we stop with the whole "ZOMG TOO PRETTY" over the casting choices, because its not as if Bruce Dern was the original Kirk.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST

    the original kirk should have been Burl Ives

    by JumpinJehosaphat

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Pix of J.J. Abrams' rebooted Tribbles now online too

    by Jape

    Like the ship, looks like he only made a few "tweaks" here as well:

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Nice Corvette, Guido T.Kirk

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Nice Prius, Spock

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Need more spaceship action!

    by thot

    We've only gotten one good released photo of the new Enterprise. Would like to see some other angles before I pass final judgement. I'm also VERY GLAD to see how good Quinto looks as Spock! Those horrible Entertainment Weekly photos had me a bit nervous at first.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Bruce Dern....


    hehehe....thats funny. I was just going to post that the young Kirk should have been played by either Bruce Dern or Burgess Meredith.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Burgess Meredith

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    See, at least THAT would have been interesting.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST


    by NeonKnite70

    Not impressed.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Shiny shiny silly silly

    by kabong

    <P> <P> Oh Whore A

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Dr. Egon Spengler is a party animal!

    by slaughterstorm

    and so is anyone else who will go see it with me opening night!!!

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Jodet . . .

    by RumpleWho

    ST:TMP had a budget of 35M, three times what SW:ANH cost.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 7:12 p.m. CST

    why do people think the chick Kirk is banging...

    by FamousEccles

    ... is Uhura. He is on top of a white bird. If you pay attention you can tell he has been riding Uhura's roomate and is then hiding under the bed as Uhura strips. Bloody english rag newspapers.

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    and young Kirk destroying his old man's

    by FamousEccles

    antique car fits right in with how he acted as a kid (see BEST DESTINY for worse things he did before Robert April helped clip him about the ears) - yes he couldn't drive stick in A PIECE OF THE ACTION - this "error" is no different to Luke getting a horn when Leia licks his tonsils in ESB and becomes sister in ROTJ - and I didn't even want a TREK movie without the Shat - but this trailer impresses - I accepted Ford as different take on Richard Kimble but still enjoy the old FUGITIVES too

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 7:22 p.m. CST

    and before I forget...

    by FamousEccles

    simon pegg and ricky gervais should go fuck themselves in each others faces - Karl Urban is going to resurrect 'Bones'

  • Nov. 18, 2008, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Zoe Saldana's 'Uhura' = Cocktease

    by Monkey_King

    and plays hide the Salami with young Capitan Kirk. Yay!

  • Nov. 19, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    I'll wait for the rental

    by gkrauter2007

    Flashy, typical type of result when corporate suits get hold of something, but also rather bland. Space trooper looked stupid. Ship being built on the ground looks cool but is dumb if you think about it for even one second--oh wait--you're not supposed to think, its only Star Trek. And the Romulan looking dude with the cepter reminds me of Nemesis, which sucked. And Spock doing the neck pinch? Uh ... yeaaah. Yikes. I'll wait for the rental.