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Hammer Time!! Marvel Planning
26 Mighty Episodes Of THOR!!
I am – Hercules!!
Marvel’s Norse god of thunder, Thor, will become the subject of a 26-episode animated series to launch in autumn 2010, just after the “Thor” feature hits cinemas.
Which channel will air it? That’s still up in the air.
Marvel is also prepping new animated series based on The X-Men, Iron Man, The Black Panther and The Avengers.
Find all of The Hollywood Reporter’s story on the matter here.
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Nov. 14, 2008, 12:40 a.m. CST
maybe they'll use Dr. Katz squiggle animation
by thefastestprofessoralive
The last Iron Man cartoon was poop. I hope this one at least is drawn well.
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The current Spider-Man series is aces, and what I've been able to...acquire...of Wolverine and the X-Men has been slow-moving but ultimately rewarding so far. Get JMS in some sort of supervising position and this should be good.
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... and not that fake Ultimate Marvel crap.
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I feel like Thor needs to prep mainstream audiences more then most other superheroes.
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is to come out before the film. It also needs to be more like the Ultimate Marvel Thor in its costume design and persona, but have the duality of the original Thor and his Doctor Don Blake identity just to make the character more interesting.
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...and teach the kids that Thor has a weekday named after him. And that "thunder" is named after him.
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When we had X-Men, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Spider-Man and Incredible Hulk.Keep it up.I just hope these shows last longer than a year.They used to order about 64 episodes, now after 26, they call it quits.We also need more shows from DC.At least some DVD movies set in the DCAU.
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that was good enough to air on prime time on a major network...
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Bad enough that Kenneth Branagh is doing it, but if Thor still speaks Shakespearean English, people will think Ken is taking the piss. And if he doesn't, the fans will be pissed off.
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mirrorball longjohns like in the recent reboot? Can't figure out why Thor would need armor, but at least make it look good if ya must put him in it. They needed Simonson to design it (though the Kirby design was good enough).
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he will wear viking armour.
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will be better than the recent straight to DVD movies. Those just weren't that good.
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halogen headlights.
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That would be funny.
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There are aspects of the new animated spider Man I appreciate but I wish it were not that particular art style. "The Batman" series is also impossible for me to watch because of the crappy art. So sick of that style.
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I've been watching the new, much gayer garbed, Avengers and it SUCKS! <p> Gayer garbed you ask. Watch the jungle episode or Hawkeye leaving for the circus. <p> Fuck it seems designed for retarded, very gay, white kids.
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Hahaha I'm so using that line tonight at the bar!!!!
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Nov. 14, 2008, 7:34 a.m. CST
will we ever get cartoons on the level of 90's X-Men, Tick, Spid
by turketron
Shit there were some excellent cartoons back then. I would wake up at 6:30 or 7 am and veg out on cartoons until 12pm. My mom hated it. Even Sunday mornings had good cartoons on the WB and USA...
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is the standard to which all comic cartoons should be judged. I feel sorry for kids these days. And the Tick was WAY ahead of its time. Damn, that would be a great companion to Venture Bros. Update the animation slightly and bring back the insurmountable Patrick Warburton, of course. SPOOOOOOON!!
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it will prolly suck ass because it will be dumbed down... this is obvious.
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I hope the Iron Man series is freaking awesome. I assume Marvel is planning these new series around existing comic book arcs? Or is Tony Stark going to become a spunky teenager that flaunts the rules but gets straight A's in physics?
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THAT would be impressive. Show old X-Men and Spidey episodes during the day and have the new shows on at night? Freakin' sweet. I'd take that over Heroes ANY day of the week. Even Thorsday ^_^
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JMS is rocking the current THOR monthly series...whenever it actually arrives, that is.
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Hitch art. Stunning!
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really.. anyone??
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And he's an actual monster, as opposed to Sam Witwer with shit stuck on his face. Where the hell is the talkback for this?
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That Jane is a real swinger.
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He's one of my favorite Marvel characters. Anyone have a problem with that?
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That show's not "new". It's from the late 90s.
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Hulk vs. Thor looks awesome mostly due to it being set in Asgard. That aspect of Thor is never exploited enough. For a cartoon that will rely heavily on action we don't need Donald Blake. Why does everyone hold the 90s X-Men cartoon as the gold standard, that show was awful. From the animation to the overly long and way overly convoluted story lines. Yes, it's cool they made it like the comics but the 90s X-Men comics were often a headache to read and that cartoon could be laborious to watch because of that. X-Men Evolution was a far superior show in terms of animation, fresh takes on the costume and character designs and a lot more character development. But people like to hate it because it wasn't a direct translation of the comics. I read the comics I don't need to see them redone in animated for. AS far as the people that whine about anime influence on the character design comic cartoons have needed that shot in the arm for a long time, the DCAU still needs it. It's doesn't have to be over the top, almost parody like the horrible Fantastic 4 cartoon that came out a couple of years ago where Johnny Storm had ridiculously spiky hair but some anime sensibilities work great with supeheroes. Shows like The Batman, Batman: Gotham Knight, Legion of Superheroes and Teen Titans at least gave something fresh from a visual stand point for those character. I know this is going to be blasphemy to some but I'm beyond tire of the Bruce Timm DCAU from BATS to the new Batman: Brave and the Bold it's been the same style for 16 years. JL, Superman: Doomsday, New Frontier and now Brave and the Bold took some side steps but never anything far from the Timm look. I'm not saying big eyes and spiky hair for everyone just something a little updated.
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I just got it as an early Christmas present from my wife. I HIGHLY recommend it to any fan of to anyone that enjoys the genre. Animators should really take a good look also, so they can get an idea on how to produce outstanding work.
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With the only exception being Spectacular Spider-Man, all of their endeavors suck ass. Why is that? Both ultimate Avengers movies were soulless and joyless spectacles. Dr. Strange was tripe and Iron-Man and Young Avengers isn't worth mentioning. Marvel was the first publisher to produce three dimensional, flawed characters, and yet, animation wise, DC is kicking their asses in producing well written narratives with witty, three dimensional characters. Being a Marvel boy growing up, it hurts me to see this crap. I remember getting into a debate on this board years ago when the first Ultimate Avengers cartoon debuted. I was told comparing Avengers to JLU wasn't fair because JLU had a few seasons to improve. My opinion was although the writing was raw the first season, you could still see the superior craft. Well, time has told. There is simply no reason marvels characters have been painted in such broad strokes in their animation forms, while the DCU characters are richly explored. Iv'e lost count of the times i've smiled at the screen watching Batman, and later, the JLU and have said, "yep, that's what Bruce/Clark/Wally would say..spot on". Shape up Marvel!
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That was a great animated film made in 2006. Thor was great! not much on screen but he was perfect especially when he was fighting hulk. I think Marvel's animated films in recent years are far better than the live action movies. Check out Dr Strange, Invincible iron man, and Ultimate Avengers part 1 (part 2 is not as good). The New Avengers was also very enjoyable but set in an alternative universe where the Avengers have been killed by Ultron. Only Iron Man survives and protects the Avengers children who become the "new" Avengers. Cant wait now for Thor series and the movie Thor vs hulk.
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No one else has ever -ever- gotten the character right. Everyone elses version looks like a hippy, a pansy, or Conan. No one ever captured nobility like Kirby. And why are they always inserting goofy fantasy elements? It's mythology, not Princess Fairyland.
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make it so number one
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wait wrong character..
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First off, i don't know who mentioned it, but there is NO new Avengers cartoons, and secondly, i loved the X-Men Cartoon when i was younger just as much as anybody but i ask you all to go back and watch it now that your older, it does NOT stand the test of time, im sorry to say it but DC makes the best comic cartoons, they are the standard by which all others should be judged, Thor is my favorite comic character there is and JMS is really knocking it out of the park, this is the first time Thor has not seemed cheesy to me, i am very glad he dropped the Shakespearean speech, it made reading the old comics almost unbearable i think this new Thor seems VERY noble and i dont think Thor has ever looked this good.
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He needs a beard though:P
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...overly-rendered style all their stuff was in back in the 90s!
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He's not a freakin' biker, either!
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...on occassion, mind you. Think I always thought cool about Kirby's version was how well he synthesized the mythological elements with a science-fictional sensibility. It was an almost perfect fusion of the two genres, which is a rare thing.
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337 through 390 or so, mid 80s. Very imaginative, character-driven stuff. Beat Thor to a pulp.
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The series has been surprisingly good (a trillion times better than the movie). Doesn't it deserve some discussion?
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It sucks ape balls. Actually the show isn't bad, I just like to complain. Makes me feel like a true fanboy.
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Man I thought that was one of the worst of the bunch. Horrible animation there. Spiderman was good but in the animation realm DC F's Marvel in the A. Batman the animated series, Superman, Justice League....those were the good shows.
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awesomeness. When does it come out?
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Why is it always... kinda crappy? DC are so much better at finding the right style for their cartoons.
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Biker no, But Norse warrior god yes, and Vikings were very well known for their beards. They were also very clean contrary to popular belief:P
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It's all Jack Kirby meets 300 stuff anyway, why DC can't get things done with Wonder Woman but gets that awful Catwoman movie made I'll never know.
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IN volumes like Marvel Masterworks Vol. 4-6 of Thor (just like FF Masterworks V. 4-10 and the Captain American Vol. 3-4). This IS the stuff of comics legend. Simonson's Thor was probably the best take on it all until JMS' current run. The Ultimate's Thor? A variation on Millar's belief that all super-heros are assholes.
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Incorporating Mr. Miracle and Forever People, too. Would beat the hell out of the stoopid-ass monster flicks they run again and again. Not mention crap like Ghost Hunters. Ugh.
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To make the movie successful, it must NOT have the Shakespearean speak and he should absolutley NOT wear underwear over pants:P
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Nov. 14, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST
How did Marvel ever sign off on those 60's cartoons?
by Crimson Dynamo
They make Clutch Cargo look like Disney
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...they were made on the cheap for a quick buck. You need to remember that, in 1966, Marvel had only been publishing those 'funny books' for about four years and there was no guarantee the trend would last.
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When the terrible animation of that show gets better and actually doesn't look like a console game for the Nintendo 64. I watch Little Einsteins with my daughter and the mouth movements look more realistic!<BR> It is such a shame that Pixar and Disney ( I'm treating them separately ) apparently have a monopoly. No one in the USA can put out high quality TV animation. Not even Mr. Spend money on *anything* technology George Lucas, can create anything remotely good in animation. Why is that? <BR> Watch a couple of episodes of Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in The Shell, Paranoia Agent, or Macross Frontier and then tell me Clone Wars is good with a straight face.
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Had absolutely horrid Korean animation by AKOM. The character designs were good, as was the rest of it. I'd still watch it over that lame Evolutions show. The new one seems OK so far. Ironically, the best animated X-Men was Pryde of the X-Men done by Toei. (Lousy script, though,)
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Wasn't that thing like 200 bucks? I never thought I'd own that thing. *YOINK*
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There are a *ton* of comic book guys in Coaxial!! Dogs & cats living together...Mass hysteria! <p> PS: Alexander Skarsgard is Thor.
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were true to comic book storylines, overall. Same with Fantastic Four (which got better better once they dumped the dopey theme song). They weren't on-par with BTAS, etc from DC end, but some the X-Men arcs (we have a stack of the VHS tapes), still hold up for kids, especially. The big question is why no boxed set DVDs of X-Men or Spider-Man or Iron Man or Hulk for that matter?
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were those theme songs. For us, ahem, older folks, it's just nostalgia as we were kidlets when we watched them. Basically Jack Kirby and Don Heck comic book cutouts moving.
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It already did in a pitiful made for TV movie.
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Are you sure? I don't recall it at all. Antman in charge, Wonderman gone missing, so on. <p> Fuck gay Namor was on last week. Scarlet witch played fag hag. And Tigra didn't even wear a skimpy swim suit despite showing fur. <p> Falcon is really gay.
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The ones you named are great if you're into anime, but I am not. I for one LOVE the Clone Wars animation.
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This is the second pressing of the book, without the exclusive 70mm film frames of 2001. Thank God because that first run went up to $400 as soon as it was out-of-print.
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The show just keeps getting better...this weekend's episode was like a mini movie. It brings back the fun and adventure of classic Star Wars. Love the show--the haters are missing out on this one.
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so who gives a fuck.
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Ya The Avengers Cartoon your talking about aired from October 30, 1999 to February 26, 2000 and was called The Avengers: United They Stand it only lasted 13 episodes, thank the gods for Wikipedia!!
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I'd trust you guys' reviews over the usual Lucas loyalists. If it really has improved, I'll try watching it.
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Don't know if that was a rhetorical question or not, but the reason those shows aren't on DVD is because Disney owns them and Disney are bastards.
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Mighty Mjolnir...and bash every non-Thor lover out there. Thor is as tricky as Dr. Strange to pull off, you gotta really know what you're doing, my fingers are crossed but everyone's predeliction for "updating" everything makes this property pure poison for any douchebag trying to make some teen Thor skate-thrashing his extreme self through limited action toons while zinging out text speak like: OMO! (Oh My Odin!)
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That's what we need. We need a hard-R DTV animated version of the latest Bermejo "Joker" graphic novel. It must be done.
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A bootleg of the Star Trek trailer is up at you tube see it before its gone. http://tiny.cc/x4j3K
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Thanks for the tip dude, I'm a HUGE O.S. fan and that was SWEET.
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I do recommend Clone Wars, but you may want to jump in AFTER next weekend's episode...Apparently it is going to be Jar jar-centric, the first appearance (and hopefully last) of everyone's fav Gungan.
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They may have some fun with Jar Jar in the new series, so we'll see...
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I don't have cable, so I'll have to go to the trouble of either downloading or waiting to rent. <br> That's why un-biased reviews are important to me.
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You're in luck: starwars.com always streams the latest two episodes for free!
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Nov. 16, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST
I love the 60's toons and I'll tell you why, even tho you didn't
by malificus
Because in actuality they are basically crudely animated Kirby panels, and Kirby is to comics what God is to the universe, and so the 60's toons use actual Kirby panels, not Kirby models or hacks trying to draw like Kirby, but the pages themselves and the pages are awesome, and so thus to are the 'toons, Kirby awesome. "You'll behold in breathless wonder, the God of Thunder, Mighty Thor!"
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Last weeks episode was great - and I am someone who hated the movie this summer. They've all been pretty good and progressively getting better. I also like that they keep using OT score during key parts.
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Wow. drop to lowest common denominator, huh? Lucas didn't do shit with Pixar. John Lasseter is the hero of Pixar, and the (sometimes reluctant) backer was Steve Jobs. George Lucas did not realize the power of his own creation, much like he treats Star Wars. <BR> I am not an anime freak. I enjoy good animation of any source. I quite clearly say that Pixar and Disney produce good animation. I said no one else in the US does good TV animation. <BR> Branch out a little bit. Anime is not a fixed genre. There is good and bad within it just like any other thing. Would it be fair to me to say I don't like American animation just because "American Dad" sucks?
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Seriously dude, lay off the trolling. I bested you. You tried to bitchslap me thinking you knew your stuff, but you didn't do your research.
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I really enjoyed the actual Kirby drawings coming to life. It's funny that although Colan and Heck and others were also similarly "animated", only Kirby's looked like they were moving although they actually weren't. The MOST funny part of the cartoons is the spelled-out sound effects. Are "KER-AACK!" and "RUMBLE!" really necessary in a sound cartoon?
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I'm sorry George Lucas has hurt you so bad.
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George Lucas didn't hurt me, I'm just saddened that he doesn't feel the world deserves something better than Clone Wars.<BR> Don't think I'm bitter about Star Wars itself. It is just such a deep universe, it's a shame the only things to come out of it have been so shallow lately. Clone wars has been not bad story wise... I was knocking the animation, not the stories. <BR> Why expect so little? Why shouldn't a Star Wars story have the best animation quality?
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I always wanted to see a rotoscoped Avengers, or a rotoscoped JLA. I guess with the live action Avengers coming, I'm leaning towards the rotoscoped JLA.
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oh, and everyone i talk to thinks Triple H should play Thor, but can he act? I haven't seen enough of him in real acting roles to make a decision.
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Anybody remember that Bill Bixby Hulk movie where there was this nerd who called Thor into our universe whenever he was in trouble? Lame-O. They were testing the waters for a spin-off, I heard, though nothing...uh, spun.
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If anyone's wondering why I keep posting, I'm trying to knock Scriptgirl off the top talkbacks. That chic annoys me. Go, Thor!
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the animation in Clone Wars sucks. Simple as that. Move on losers.
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Sorry to come right out and say that, I've never insulted people on these boards, not once (as far as I can remember,) but reading your posts J.J. Binks, and seeing how you're insulting people left right and centre, I just couldn't help it.<p> And I'm not talking about the Pixar/lucas debate, I could care less. Thor is F#*ing Brilliant in The Ultimates and if they want a character that has broad appeal, they'll use the Ultimate Thor for the movie and the cartoon. <P> Everything about the Ultimate version of Thor is awesome. He kicked BUTT in Ultimates 2. He made a kick ass book even better. The costume is up to date, (no cape, no stupid helmet) and very simple. His mental state is intriguing and could make for a great film. (I fear they'll screw it up though.)<P> As I said, I've not insulted on these, or any, boards before, but just had to put in my two cents. <P> I await your raging response.
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I have a news flash and a reality check for some of you: that YouTube clip from the Sixties utilizing Stan Lee script and Jack Kirby's art -- as primitive as it was for just shaking the art and all -- STILL has FAR more grandeur and scope and emotion to it than that ultra shitty clip from that laughably bad HULK vs THOR direct to DVD bullshit.<p>Stan and Jack still own Marvel's ass! They'll NEVER be topped!
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That was a lot more contained than I was expecting, J.J... Kudos. <P> First up, I'm 30 years old, married, professional, with a mortgage but no kids. As far as comic book knowledge though... well... it's debatable. I've only been reading comics for the last fifteen years (i.e. not since I was a kid) and my tastes aren't that wide ranging, BUT... I do try to sample as many writers or artists as I can. So, very little comic book knowledge? No, I wouldn't say that, but I also wouldn't say I'm well versed in all areas. Never read a single manga, for example. And, I admit, I'm fairly new to the Marvel Universe... there, I said it. Always read more 'out there' books like most of the Vertigo line.<P> I own and worship just about everything Alan Moore has done (so we agree there) although I'm yet to be really blown away by Morrison's stuff. (I think Animal Man has been my favourite so far) (Haven't read Doom Patrol yet.) <P> I, like you, prefer actually creativity over buzzwords, certainly... It's just, I'm really enjoying the Ultimate line as it's easy for someone like me, whose not been reading Marvel Universe books their whole lives, to jump into. I can certainly see where you're coming from though, some aspects of the Ultimate world are just plain bad. I picked up Ultimate Daredevil the other day. It was awful. BUT... I utterly enjoyed Ultimates 1 and 2, (haven't read 3) and would be really interested about what you didn't like about them. <P> What I do take issue with, (in your comment), is "the latest Bendis piece-of-shit" <br> Have you read Alias? Powers? For someone who prefers creativity and imagination... I'd have thought you'd enjoy what he's doing with comics. If you're ONLY seeing Bendis as Secret Invasion Man, then you're not looking far enough. <P> Last point: You talk about Kirby and Moore and Morrison rather than whoever's 'hot' right now... sure. I respect that. BUT... take Daredevil for example. I STARTED with Bendis' run. Fell in love with the character, the art, (Mack and Maleev) and just ate it all up. Heard about 'The Greats' who created Daredevil and made him who he was. Stan Lee, and Frank Miller. So I read their stuff... you know what... not that great. Love Miller, don't get me wrong. (Well, like is a better word, Dark Knight Returns, of course, and some others, but still think he's over rated.) And I know he was just starting out when he worked on Daredevil, and I know he IMPROVED it a HELL of a lot... but the best parts were still just kinda ok. I realise comics were different back then, still evolving, absolutely... but I'm not into worshipping the past as if they're better than what's coming out now. Respect it, certainly. Without them, we wouldn't have anything... but Alan Moore said it best with "Whereas the Stan Lee stuff, the Marvel comics, he went from one dimensional characters whose only characteristic was they dressed up in costumes and did good. Whereas Stan Lee had this huge breakthrough of two-dimensional characters. So, they dress up in costumes and do good, but they've got a bad heart. Or a bad leg." <p> So, no, I'm not a youngster. No, I know 'a bit' about comics, but not as much as you perhaps. And yes, I respect where Thor has come from, completely. But for a mass audience, the Ultimate Thor is the way to go. Taken the design and improved upon it. In my opinion. <P> Cheers
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Its not really my bag, but I don't think its bad. I'd much rather have a 2D series like the 2003 mini episodes. Some of you act like its "Rudolf and the Island of Misfit Toys". What is MUCH more important is that with Clone Wars - you have some really good stories, characterizations, and action scenes. Watching these things with my 5 year old is absolutely great. Now that the Clone Troopers have personalities, it throws a whole new element on the Star Wars universe.
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