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Waitaminute! What's this about Ennio Morricone scoring Tarantino's INGLORIOUS BASTARDS?!?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Okay, first off... consider this rumor... and even consider it an unlikely rumor given that Tarantino recently did an interview in which he said he would never ever have an original score to any of his films... I think he said, to paraphrase, why should he get an original score when he can hand pick the perfect cues from the best composers to have ever lived, a whole history of motion picture music at his disposal? Now, I radically don't agree with him on that point (if everybody thought like that, there would no cues to pick from), but I can't deny it has worked for him so far. Then this news hit via an Italian site that was pretty immediately linked to by the Quentin Tarantino Archives, where Ennio Morricone has said that Tarantino has offered him the composing duties on INGLORIOUS BASTARDS (and I know the script has an E instead of an A, but damnit... the second A is what makes that word so fun for me, so I will not let go of it!). Now, if Morricone (who turns 80 today by the way) announced he was scoring an episode of One Tree Hill I'd be celebrating. The man's a living legend. His MAN WITH NO NAME scores for Leone alone cemented his stature, standing shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Max Steiner, Bernard Herrmann, Jerry Goldsmith and John Williams. But also consider his amazing work on JOHN CARPENTER'S THE THING, one of the only films Carpenter himself didn't score. The idea of Morricone doing this movie is exciting as hell for me, so I hope it pans out. I think it'd be incredible. And may I also give a suggestion to a filmmaker... Attention Mr. JJ Abrams. Hi. We've never met or spoken, but I am very well aware that you have the rights to Stephen King's amazing DARK TOWER series and are planning on making them into a series of films. I wish you all the luck with that Herculean task and I think a Michael Giacchino score would be incredible, but please... consider this... whether the above rumor turns out to be true or not, approach Ennio Morricone and pitch him the material, Roland's story, the universe... and pay him a goodly sum of money to come up with a few themes. Giacchino can and should have a lot of freedom, but how amazing would it be to have an Ennio Morricone Roland's Theme and Dark Tower Theme that is interwoven throughout the entire run, adapted and expanded by Giacchino? Just consider it, that's all I ask. Please and thank you. -Quint PS I love LOST. So what do you folks think of this possibility? I'll do my best to figure out if it's bullshit or not, but in the meantime now you have dream of what could be for Tarantino's sure to be epic WW2 flick.
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And I recommend everyone pick up John Zorn's early '80s collection of Morricone covers. Best jazz musician of the century!
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that theme "Death rides a horse" , you know, when the bride shows up on the house of blue leaves and screams oren ishiiiiiiiii
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I hope he says yes
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with a Morricone score. You must do this Quinton....
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but it's not an original score, which is what Ennio Morricone is claiming Tarantino approached him for Inglorious Bastards.
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Morricone will ultimately have nothing to do with the finished film. Don't get me wrong, my fingers are crossed. But given the volume of big names that have been linked to this film over the years and that have failed to materialise, it's hard not to be sceptical.
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Morricone will give this film a dose of some Epic(ness) it needs. I really really believe after this Tarantino should take a step out of TarantinoLand and make a movie set in the universe Reservoir Dogs and Jackie Brown were set in. As much as I loved Death Proof and Kill Bill/s I just think he needs some realistic (rum?) punch back in his career. I want Tarantino being compared to Scorcese again!
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however Mission To Mars wasn't. But then it's good to know that even genius can have an off day....
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Nov. 10, 2008, 6:58 a.m. CST
I wonder if the meeting was more about securing rights or someth
by JumpinJehosaphat
You know, rather than original score talk.
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I wasn't crazy about the script, but this would be a perfect fit and would actually make it BETTER.
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Walk Hard Remix. Liquid Swords!!! If you livin in the world today, you be hearing the sounds that the wu-tang slay, nigga's that front we don't have em, so we blast em, alright, well ok... Well if you like the way this sounds, than clap man, and if your woman loves it to, well then raise her hands, but only raise hands if your sure. Punk nigga shatter like da glass jaw. <P> Damn Liquid Swords is still pissin hot shit to listen too.
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Nov. 10, 2008, 7:10 a.m. CST
Tangerine Dream for Dark Tower Series as well!
by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET
I hate the Jerry Goldsmith Soundtrack edit to the american DVD version of Legend!!!! Fucked that movie up so bad!
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I no longer care what the fellow does.<p>Still, thanks for the memories, banana-chin!
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Morricone's only Razzie Award nominee. (and one of the million proofs why the Razzie jury is a bunch of shitheads who don't deserve any attention.)
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Please consider Hugh Jackman for the role of Roland. Thank you, cutest.
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...the RZA did some brief music cues for Kill Bill Vol. 1 and Robert Rodriguez did about 15-20 minutes of score on Vol. 2. Anyways, it would be a treat to hear a new Morricone score, as I feared he'd retired for good.
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...Gotta be Josh Holloway as Roland...Dean Winters for Eddie...No idea whatsoever for Jake and Susannah tho.
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...good god, Quint...you're on to something big there. I don't know if my ears can take it, it's that monumental.
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Glad to see that I'm not the only one that thinks Hugh Jackman would make a nice Roland. Daniel Day-Lewis would be my FIRST choice, but Jackman, Viggo Mortenson or Daniel Craig are more realistic. I still can't imagine seven DT movies being financially feasible. A three-season HBO series would make much more sense.
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... would make me want to go see IB on opening day. I hope it comes true. Also, I believe the the entire Dark Tower cycle should be done as a series of photorealistic CGI films. You could design Roland to have aspects of any number of actors that share those attributes. Ed Harris, Terry O'Quinn, Jackman, Mortenson, Eastwood, all combined into a Roland that could actually go through the aging process on the journey. It could be awesome... Morricone themes for that version? My mind boggles...
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...when KILL BILL was originally released; that Morricone was to score that? <br><br> I'll believe it if and when I hold the soundtrack in my hands.
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even if there would be an original score by Morricone. Why you ask? Two words...<br> <br> Eli Roth <br> <br> What the hell is up with that casting? Was Michael Madsen really unavailable? Really? What about Harvey Keitel? C'mon QT, did you blow all of your casting budget on Pitt? <br> <br> Eli f'ing Roth, what a douche. (shakes head and walks away)
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AND DRIVE IT OFF A CLIFF!!!! That'll get 20-something butts in seats!! They'll get blisters txting to their BFFs about how fricken' "amaaaazing" it was.
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This is certainly a move in the right direction. The casting is excellent, apart from Eli Roth. Could have picked a better cinematographer but I suppose Richardson will be ok as long as he doesn't use that signature overhead white light. The scores for the dollar trilogy are obvious examples of Morricone's brilliance and the Thing is average for a Morricone score. Once Upon a Time in the West and in America, The Mission, the Untouchables, are in many ways superior. Hopefully Inglorious Bastards will be another one to add to the long list of supreme compositions from the Maestro. Obviously it would have been better if Morricone had composed some of the music before they started production so that Tarantino could film scenes along to the music just as Sergio Leone did with Once Upon A time in the West, but nevertheless it is an encouraging sign.
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A thing of beauty
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...things of relative beauty, trapped in hideous 80's drum machines with too much gated reverb and dx7 bell tones..
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And stoke the luke warm interest I have for this project currently. Saw Ennio conducting the RPO at the Barbican a few years back, score geek nirvana. Morricone is truly one of THE greats, and a dramatic score for QT's WWII flick would be something worth getting excited about.
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If the casting is right. I can see Dean Winters as Eddie (or Sam Rockwell), totally. But screw CG or contacts, the actor playing our man Roland MUST have blue eyes. And Daniel Craig does have some sparkley ones. In the cinema of my cranium I see Billy Crudup playing a young Roland. Mortensen does some like a good choice as well though. And the only person I ever saw playing Detta is Angela Bassett. Getting a little old but she could sell it!
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FTW. Considering each character is, in a way, an amalgam of pop culture iconography, I think that an animated, ultra-violent miniseries on HBO or Showtime would be the way to go. Kudos to 11zombies.
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who said that he didn't use a composer because he could find the perfect score for his films in the last 600 years or whatever history of music? And Tarantino claims that the perfect scores have already been written in the last 80 years of film history? That's bit nieve and, in a way, disrespectful to any composers working today.
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he'd be able to reuse some of the work done by composers in thousands and thousands of other movies for his one movie? <p> </p>A lot of composers these days, especially in some of the big Summer event movies, either make overly-loud, auspicious music that steps all over the movie, and not in a John Williams kind of way, or music that just kinda sits there leadenly in the background. All Tarantino's really doing by pick-and-choosing snippets from other movies is gaining more control to have the movie SOUND like he wants, as well as LOOK like he wants.
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Everyone loves talking shit about Eli Roth, saying he's bad casting and whatnot. Can you guys really not see how inspired a choice his casting actually is? If I'm not mistaken, he's playing the guy with that beats Nazis to death with a baseball bat, so obviously he's a little bit unhinged mentally. <p> I'm not a huge Roth fan (Hostel 2 is a pile of shit) but I think he can pull it off; he's got them crazy eyes, that young, insane look. Like a redneck yankee. Plus maybe his character is a douchebag...if so, wouldn't Mr. Roth make perfect sense? Did everyone bitch like this when Cronenberg was cast in Nightbreed?
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And it blows my mind. Even if it's a rumour. Someone tell Q.T of the rumour so something might get going in his head. Truly inspiring.
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as a composer...
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It'll be starring Jet Lee and others. Seriously, I'm not joking!!!
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...You're quote is almost word for word , from Stanley Kubrick Now, maybe QT is just repeating something Kubrick said. Or, Quint needs to do better research if he is going to call himself a writer.
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...before his working with Wendy Carlos. I like how Fli63Hole is Afraid to use her preferred name. I know she used to be Walter... ..But, she's Wendy now. Deal with it.
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... may be the greatest living composer of film scores. I use hard-to-find greatest hits double-cd during my home poker games and you wouldn't believe the intensity it adds. Also, for the Dark Tower series, I'd recommend the Australian band Dirty Three. Somebody needs to book these guys a score gig, they'd be incredible. Listen to their CD Horse Stories and I think you'll agree.
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speaking poorly of Eli Roth any more than I enjoy speaking about the nation's economy right now and how much "it" sucks. <br> <br>Both are simple facts and both are depressing to talk about: <br>- the economy because it's impacting me and my friends that get laid off work <br>- Inglorious Bastards because it sounds like a great QT film but it has Eli Roth in the cast. Guess what other QT film 'sounded' great and also had Eli Roth in the cast -> Death Proof. <br> <br> I do agree with you that it's 'ok' (at best) if 'and only if' his character truly is 'a douchebag'. <br> <br> But at the same time QT has such a great selection of 'regulars' to use that could have been outstanding if Roth's character is a loony (Steve Buscemi, Tim Roth). Or if Roth's character is a douche then there are a host of other actors that could still play that type of role better (Vincent Gallo, Jeremy Piven).
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One way to look at it is that both projects are inspired by THE DIRTY DOZEN.
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Would be an epic undertaking. Moreso than Lord of the Rings - still, I'm almost done with the last novel, so I miss it already. Bring on the movies!
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Thats great news! (if it's real)
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said the same thing about production designers during The Shining (pharaphrasing) Why should I have someone come to design what they'll think a hotel room should look like, when I can just pick from the designs of real ones already made. It makes sense, but at the same time I think adds a bit of phony contrast to a movie, as I also think when something is just created from scratch it doesn't have enough realism. A happy medium can be reached combining both approaches.
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and that is the best fucking idea I have heard in a long time. I never stated it though because I figured it was so obvious. OF COURSE Morricone should make a score for Dark Tower. I really can't see (or is it hear?) it any other way. It was destined.
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How come no-one mentioned The Mission...arguably the greatest motion picture score in this humble Scotsman's opinion, never mind Morricone's best...although I do have a soft spot for The Untouchables score too... What think you all?
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Damn You Michael Bay
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I hate it when directors just take or splice a bunch of music that others composed for an entirely different context and shove it into a film. Tarantino does it quite often, and while some of it works some of the times, it's just plain lazy. I would hate to see what music he would choose for this film. Hopefully this rumor is true, because it would be nice to hear a new Morricone score.
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Re: "Eli is where he is today because he knows the right people. He has friends in the industry that are in very high places so until he pisses them off he is untouchable. " EVERYONE who has a career is where they are because they knew the right people! It's talent and relationships. BUT he went to NYU or somewhere and won awards and was really good and worked his butt off as a PA and raised money and blah blah. You just hear the Quentin Tarantino-at-the-pool story more often because that's more interesting. I like him. I mean, I don't know him. But he gave great commentaries on this Make Your Own Damn Movie Troma DVD and was really nice explaining how he got started, etc. And I think Ennio Morricone will be fantabulous. I was picturing weird "Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree" 40s music...
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he can hand pick the perfect cues from the best composers to have ever lived" <P> If everyone did that there would be no more new scores. But ofcourse not everyone does that, so I guess Tarantino will continue to have many more perfect cues (from other people's works) to choose from.
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If you don't like what Morricone writes for Bastards, you can just throw it out like every other director in Hollywood does these days. Or keep the stuff you like and track the rest of the movie with old stuff. It's not like anyone will notice anyway.
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SOME of the music for _Kill Bill_ is original (Rodriguez's stuff). And we don't know that Morricone would be doing ALL the music for _Bastards_ ... So there may not be any contradiction between Tarantino's settled policy and this report.
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"why should he get an original score when he can hand pick the perfect cues from the best composers to have ever lived, a whole history of motion picture music at his disposal?"<br><br> indeed. why make any original films whatsoever when you can simply rip shit off and rework it.
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...Bulworth, U-Turn, Butterfly... In other words, whether or not he does the score, the movie could still suck.
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Was from Navajo Joe and (I believe) the Big Gundown, the latter being my favorite Morricone soundtrack. What I think is really nice about how Tarantino uses "found" music is that he always recontextualizes it. The cue from Navajo Joe is a torture scene, very different from the scene in Kill Bill in which it's used. Same thing he does with scenes and story elements from other movies. For some reason it always works when Quentin does it.
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Nov. 10, 2008, 8:03 p.m. CST
Tarantino will fuck his principles if Ennio says YES
by theycallmemrglass
Ennio would probably be Tarantinos ONLY exception. If John Williams asked to score his film, Tarantino would tell John to fuck off but not Ennio. Oh no. That being said, I felt tarantino wasted Ennio's classic pieces on Kill Bill 2. They were jarringly placed. but this is fucking exciting rumour
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Except for the fucking woman's voice on the title and end credits. Horrible.
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was literally one of his best scores EVER. Sucks that the original master tapes of it were recorded over by De Laurentiis or whatever. Ah well. At least we have the "bootleg" rip.
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The EdgesHat, you fucking right, man. Glorious. Gabriel's Oboe. I also rather dig The Legend of 1900 score, the Love Theme is choice. And kwisatzhaderach, The Keep score is a thing of beauty. What is it about The Keep? It's no classic, it's rather flawed, so why would do we love the motherfucker so much?
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Would be happy, i think. So would i.
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I've been humming the main theme to "The Mission" all the way down this talkback. So yes, The Mission rules.
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Is the best tune and the best scene ever shot. His scoring of the Monastery scene in TGTBATU is great too!
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Rutina Wesley plays Tara on True Blood. SHE'D be an EXCELLENT as Susannah in Dark Tower movies.
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I wouldn't describe the practice as lazy. I mean really, imagine how much time yougotta spend pouring over films and cataloging scores you like, then mixing and matching to try and find a 15 second or 3 minute cue you like for your film. Compare that to just hiring a guy to score it for you. So yea, wouldn't call it lazy.
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Nov. 12, 2008, 6:10 p.m. CST
Morricone's great but he's too old - let Clint Mansell do it.
by workshed
Now that would be great. Dontcha think..?
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