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A Couple Of Spies Weigh In On The Brand-New STAR TREK Trailer!!

Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here. I’ve talked now to a few people who are close enough to this film to have seen big chunks of it, but who aren’t directly responsible for it. And the word from all of them so far is very, very good. Paramount’s about to do some preview events for the press where we’re going to see some footage, and I’m more excited than I expected to be. I’ve long said that I’m not a fan of TREK on the whole, but that the thing I like the most is the original series, and if Abrams and his team have caught the essence of that show and managed to transform it into something genuinely fresh, then this could be very, very cool. We’ll all see next Friday, though, when the trailer premieres in front of QUANTUM OF SOLACE, and last week, the trailer got screened on the Paramount lot all day long for employees. Two of them decided to weigh in on what they saw, and we’ve got the first of those reports here for you:

Hello, I have never written into you guys before but I was just too excited not to. I recently got a job on the lot at Paramount and was fortunate enough to get to see the trailer for JJ's Star Trek (i'm not special, it's playing on a loop in the Paramount theater). Anyways, I can't say enough good things about it. I'll give you a quick rundown; We start out with a muscle car tearing ass down a dirt road. Eventually it careens off a cliff, but not before the driver jets himself out - he's a young boy, couldn't be older than 11. Suddenly what I can only describe as a space-cop asks him, "what is your name sir?" The young boy replies, "James Tiberius Kirk." Then Chris Pine takes over as we see him being angsty, driving down the road on a motorcycle. We hear some voice over from someone else that confirms his angst saying things like, "You've never really been happy have you?" and etc. Then we see him drive up what looks like a smelting factory - probably more of that ship construction we got in the earlier trailer. Then we really kick into trailer mode as we get quick images of Spock as a kid. Spock all grown up. Leonard Nimoy. A vulcan council. Space cadets. And the crew alone with some quick, flashy space fighting. There were two many images after that to describe but I can just tell you that it's extremely exciting. It's the most visually dynamic thing J.J.'s ever done. Lots of great shots, and cool camera moves, just in the trailer. There was even a little quip from Simon Pegg. And some sex thrown in for good measure. Eric Bana also joins the long list of great actors who are happy to chew scenery as a Star Trek villain. The only thing I wanted more of is Karl Urban. He was the most inspired casting IMO and he only gets a quick nod in the trailer. As I said, all in all it's really cool and I think you guys are all gonna geek out big time when it's released. To finish, I'll just say, it feels like what we WANTED when the new Star Wars movies were released - something old and nostalgic getting pushed to greater, more dynamic storytelling by improved technology. Thanks

Thanks right back at you, man. Sounds like that guy really dug it, and this next guy goes a little further into describing what it is we’ll see next week:

Hey there, long time Paramount employee here. They showed the new trailer for JJ Abrams Star Trek yesterday over at the Paramount theatre. It ran every 15 minutes and all employees were encouraged to go see it. Thought you'd like a little info. The trailer starts by showing a mid-60's Corvette convertible tearing across the country side. After a few seconds we see a long shot that shows a policeman in hot pursuit. Another long shot shows the Vette screaming at full speed toward a steep cliff. A slo-mo shot shows the driver leaping from the car at the last second and tumbling ass over teakettle toward the edge of the cliff itself. The driver is a young boy who looks about 13 or 14. He manages to grab a hold at the last second and hang on as a birds eye shot show the antique Vette fall away into an abyss. We see the boy get up and dust himself off and the camera cuts away to show a troopers boot come down close-up. The black leather boot is obviously the policeman's who was chasing the car but it looks suspiciously "different." Just different enough to let the audience know this isn't a normal policeman. The shot then cuts to where we can see the policeman standing in front of the boy with his "bike" hovering in mid air a few feet beside him. He shouts at the boy, "Who are you?" or "What's your name?" and the boy shouts back defiantly, "James Tiberius Kirk!" We're then treated to another long shot showing an older boy riding a hover bike similar to the one the policeman was shown riding a moment or two before thru the country side . We hear a voice over of an older man, presumable Kirk's father saying, "You never found yourself here, you never really fit in." The voice continues as the bike rider pulls up and stops and looks off into the distance, "What you choose to do with you're life is up to you." We see the boy starring at a huge futuristic structure (Star Fleet headquarters?) as the voice over continues, "Maybe you were meant for something different, something....bigger." It then cuts to scene of an obvious Vulcan woman holding a baby. Again we hear a voice over of the woman saying, "You will always be a part of two worlds." as we cut to a toddler Spock walking in a Vulcan robe. The boy has the Beatles hair cut and pointed ears we associate with Vulcan's throughout Star Trek history. We then see a bunch a quick shots of the crew walking around the bridge of some starship and we see a 20-something Spock angrily pointing at a 20-something Kirk and saying, "I will not be lectured by you!" and an angry Kirk getting in Spocks face saying, "Why don't you do something about it!?!" We then see an enraged Spock trying to stab Kirk with something pointed I couldn't quite make out. It was a quick shot and Kirk is shown using both hands to fend off Spock and hold the object away from his face. Several quick cuts are shown of space ships firing at one another and people being thrown about the bridge of whatever ship they're suppose to be in. We see crew members running down bright white corridors as another voice over with a Scottish accent says, "I'm having fun!" We then see a close-up of what had to be a young(er) Dr. McCoy with about a weeks worth of black stubble on his face and his arms crossed in that oh so familiar Bones manner saying angrily, "Space isn't suppose to be fun, it's aliens and phasers and death!" We also see a woman in silhouette (Uhura?) pulling off her top and scenes of the crew running to man their battle stations on a bridge. We then see a bunch of battle shots of space ships being hit by phaser fire and pieces being blown off of them while engine nacels explode before it all ends with the familar Star Fleet logo against a black background and we hear the familar Star Trek opening cords played over it and the release date appears underneath. I can't vouch for every line of dialog I quoted as being 100% accurate, the cuts were very quick and I only sat through the trailer once but that's the basics. The colors of the corridors and the uniforms was very bright, everything had a "new" appearance. No doubt some of the shots were meant to represent Star Fleet academy training exercises and not real life combat scenes though again, it all went by pretty quick. If you use this just call me Jack the Tipper.
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  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:22 a.m. CST


    by MCSuchandsuch

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:26 a.m. CST


    by MrInsidious

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST


    by wash

    I suspect the two spys are Paramount employees! Oh wait...

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST


    by bundyse

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST

    can't wait to check out the trailer

    by watch_the_world_burn

    This keeps sounding better each time...

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:29 a.m. CST


    by leisuredrummer

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Sounds good

    by waldo

    I'm sure this talkback is going to get rough(can't wait)!!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:31 a.m. CST


    by medicinaluser

    All those words for a trailer description ?<BR><BR> I still don't see the point in this movie who the fuck gives a rats ass about trek anymore, the last film made like 8 million. <BR><BR>I feel this will be 2009 Speedracer.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:31 a.m. CST


    by Magregus

    Can't wait to see this!!!!!!!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:35 a.m. CST

    I think I'll like this, but it may only be because of McCoy

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    It sounds like Urban (and whomever wrote his lines) got the cranky right. My favorite thing about Trek? Cranky old country doctors in spaaaccceee!!!!!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Rebellious teen crashing a sports car?

    by BizarroJerry

    Well, the rest of it sounds all right. I just hate rebellious teens, especially Hollywood cliche ones... But that McCoy bit sounds great!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Kiss that job good buy

    by alaero

    "I recently got a job on the lot at Paramount and was fortunate enough to get to see the trailer for JJ's Star Trek" enjoy unemployment :)

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:58 a.m. CST

    Uhura pulls off her top??!!

    by Carl's hat

    Hmmm....maybe this won't be as bad as I expected.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Paramoiunt employee as our spy? LMAO!

    by Frye777

    Effin plants that who they are. And all this teen stuff sounds like shit not Star Trek. JJ is a fuckin HACK!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:12 a.m. CST

    sounds ridiculous, but Star Trek always has been

    by BadMrWonka

    it was always ridiculous and cheesy. and if anyone moans that the new ridiculous is ridiculous because it's not the same as the old ridiculous, that's a know...

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Yes, Star Trek NEVER had rebellious teen cliches before....

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    Hippies took over the ship in the original series! Fucking hippies!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Oh, and a topless Uhura?

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    Who says there are no good parts for women?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Kirk's brother should be shown tricking him with...

    by Frisco

    ...a fake vomit prop. A bit of foreshadowing for fans of TOS, y'know.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:20 a.m. CST


    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    As long as we get to find out that he beat the Kobayashi by bedding the programmer, I'll be happy.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:23 a.m. CST

    Check out the new Warp 11 Album "Borgasm"

    by warp11

    That great Star Trek band just came out with a Concept Album. Here is the live recording: Warp!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Sounds like plants to me

    by Korrom

    On the other hand, if the trailer description is accurate, I don't care very much. What I read I liked - except for that rebellious teen shit. Trek has the potential for a new start with fresh faces and fresh stories. Only the universe and mythology should remain constant at least in the broader strokes.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:21 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Sounds like the typical Kurtzman/Orci banal dialogue. Trek was many things but it's never ben empty-headed. Apart from Spock's Brain of course.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Bedding the programmer?

    by FracturedLojak

    Maybe it's my cynical side, but I wonder how folks would react if Kirk did in fact bed the programmer to beat the test -- but the programmer turns out to be a disgusting old man? That would definitely qualify as a new twist on the characters sexual hijinks during TOS.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Plant. Singular. Both written by the same fuckwad.

    by V'Shael

    They "both" can't spell, but one is a long time employee and one is a newbie? I think not.<p> Not unless Paramount hire people who never graduated from High School. <p> "Two many" "with you're life" <p> Retard.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Sounds good. Look forward to seeing it.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:36 a.m. CST

    And remember how great TPM trailer seemed?

    by quantize

    ...let's just fucking see..who might be great.. JJ's record is patchy at BEST...I dont trust anyone who dropped that marketing gimmicky dogshit the word of studio employees should be utterly ignored.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:48 a.m. CST


    by PTSDPete

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 4:01 a.m. CST

    that line about the Star Wars prequels

    by Maniaq

    reminds me of the optimism and anticipation brought by that (Episode One) teaser/trailer campaign back then - and of course inevitably reminds me how BLOODY AWFUL those films turned out to be - regardless of how promising they looked from the trailer... <p> jus sayin

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 4:05 a.m. CST

    that is definte plant material

    by robamenta

    totally reeks of desperation in trying to sound ccol. it really sounds horible. but we'll see for ourselves soon enough

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 4:19 a.m. CST

    The word plant is very overused here...

    by Judge_Dredd

    Anyway trailers are evil things sometimes, they bring us so much false hope. Who knows, maybe this film will actually be good, even better then them fucking crap Star Wars Prequels we were given.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 4:22 a.m. CST

    "an obvious Vulcan woman holding a baby."

    by NoodlesHahn

    Too lazy to go back but I'll just assume I missed something in the article.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Fuck Angst. In fact, fuck the word Angst too.

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    I'm sick of young characters in these movies being filled with fucking angst. Does Kirk listen to emo music on his ipod-5000 as well? Fuck you Angst!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 4:37 a.m. CST

    Emokirk vs Ragespock: the Movie!

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Glad I'm lukewarm about Star Trek, or I'd probably be screaming. And though I may be lukewarm, at least I remember from it that Vulcans are not emotional. But you can't have a teenage drama a la Smallville without emotions, right? <p> <p> Of course, why would anyone expect a decent film from the man responsible for "Cloverfield" and "Superman vs Flying Kryptonian CIA Agent Lex Luthor"?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 4:51 a.m. CST

    So, if you don't want a teen with angst, what do you want?

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    A teen filled with purpose and stoicism? Would that make for a better story? I'm hard pressed to think so, but I'll admit it would be the road less traveled script-wise. Oh, and I'm sure Paramount doesn't typically hire those who've not graduated from high school, V'Shael. However, high schools in America do tend to graduate those without basic grammar and composition skills.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:30 a.m. CST

    I want aliens with big titties

    by geek molester

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Uh what. the. fuck?

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Spock tries to stab Kirk with something pointy? I thought Vulcans were beyond anger, and even if they're not I'm not sure if I buy Kirk being buddy-buddy with someone who kept trying to stab him.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:55 a.m. CST

    sounds great

    by newc0253

    can't wait to see it.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:58 a.m. CST

    two things

    by DrLektor

    from the trailer they're focusing on right from the start, which is good are Kirk's daredevil hijinks (especially in the later movies he loved to take stupid risks) and Spock's human side being much stronger in his younger days. It makes a lot of sense to have a guy almost in exile from Vulcan because he wanted to join Starfleet, angry and barely able to control it. It wasn't until quite late that he became the cool and logical Spock. They're reinventing Trek so "normal" movie going fans might want to take a look while still keeping enough hooks to interest long time geeks. Nipples on the Batsuit, flames on Optimus, Indy in a fridge and now what? Kirk being emo? I can live with that, I managed to put up with all the rest. Can't be worst than Nemesis.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6 a.m. CST

    1/2 Human!!!!

    by DGrayson

    I'm not even that big of a Trek fan, and even I know Spock is half human. Maybe this won't be the fanfic every trekker hopes it might be, but that also means it might just be a GOOD FILM. Come on, it's either this or nothing, let's try something new. Seriously, the last time Star Trek did anything decent was First Contact and that was, what, ten years ago?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:03 a.m. CST

    by DGrayson

    Remember when Bond got brought up to speed? Change can be good.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:09 a.m. CST


    by Rei-Ginsei

    If Spock's going to try and shank Kirk, they need to at least play the classic Trek fight music!<p> dun-dun DA DA DA DA DA DA dun-dun DA da...

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    How do you jump out of a car

    by Omegaman

    at 100 miles an hour and not get killed?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Half human

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Maybe, but that just makes me think this'll be like Casino Royale in making Spock the character he becomes... then in the sequel (like in QoS) it turns into a brain-dead and incoherent action film.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Omegaman... I'll bet...

    by Kelvington

    I'll bet Mythbusters will do that in acouple of weeks. How can a future star ship captain jump out of a speeding car at one hundred miles and hour and NOT get hurt. Kids please don't try anything your are about to see at home.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST

    I think I'm going to like this movie

    by GreatCzarsGhost

    Nuff Said

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:58 a.m. CST

    "Obvious Vulcan Woman" ...

    by Shan

    I'm not a big Star Trek fan but even I know Spock's mother was human. Of course, the "Vulcan" woman holding Spock may not have been his mother, just for starters ...

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Kirk as a tween

    by GeorgieBoy

    This movie is in serious trouble. He'd just better not yell, "Yippeeee!!" at some point.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST

    It looped at the Paramount Theatre ALL DAY...

    by cornponious

    and NOBODY got it on their cell phone?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST


    by dr sauch


  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    "Ass over tea kettle" - is that a commonly used phrase?

    by HereAgain

    Just curious - have never heard it. Got me to Googling. Obviously, I know it is a variant of "head over heals/topsy-turvy." Regional, from what I see.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Ha- Imagine if Star Wars had a different director and writer...

    by Judge Briggs

    but it didn't thus they sucked many hairy asses. Go see RockNRolla... tooooooooo good.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:51 a.m. CST


    by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon

    I'm still on the fence about this one.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    was the woman holding spock winnona ryder?

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    cause that right there will tell us if it was his mom or not...but really if spock is 100 % vulcan, i am going to nerd riot so hard

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    She said he was part of 2 worlds

    by Nice Marmot

    He's not going to be 100% vulcan.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:25 a.m. CST

    I'm about to go all nerd here. Nerd factor 11. Hold onto somet

    by Village Idiot

    I can't believe I'm typing this, but as a medium-grade Star Trek fan my whole life, I can't help thinking of "The Concience of the King," and how it was one of the more powerful episodes of the series. I thought the fact that, as a boy, Kirk narrowly escaped colonial genocide informed his character in an interesting way. And I don't see any indication that they've included that in this movie; and the fact that he's a tweener on what looks to Earth is evidence against it. <br><br> Maube Kodos the Executioner or his freaky-deaky daughter found a way of changing the time-stream?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Ass over tea kettle

    by Jodet

    Yes, it's a common phrase, I use it all the time. This movie sounds great. I hope its great enough for me to forget the last nine Trek movies.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Bottom line

    by Jawa 007

    This sounds cool. Very much looking forward to JJ's Star Trek.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Village Idiot

    by DrLektor

    Well as a long time Trek fan I'll point you to the fact that Kirk was born in Iowa, 2233. If he was "around 11 years old" during this car thing seen in the trailer it could be the very reason he was sent to Tarsus IV in the first place, he was punished (He was 13 when the events of genocide talked about in The Concience of the King took place.) Who knows how it's going to happen in the finished movie? Everything so far though is pointing to proper Trek continuity. Except maybe Chekov.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    TPM trailer

    by Sicuv Uyall

    But now we know how much of a shitty filmmaker Lucas is. 5 out of 5 of his last movies really blew donkey balls. This movie actually seems pretty good and has good word of mouth. I still want my money back from Lucas.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    I don't know...

    by codymr

    I think Abrams is a talented guy, but I can't say I am a fan per se. I like some ST too, but, like many franchises, I am disappointed as many times as I am entertained. <P> Also, prequels like "The Young Adventures of (Insert any well known franchise here) don't really work for me... There are exceptions of course, but for the most part, that style of storytelling is heavy on excessive exposition and is often trapped by the canon of what has come before. <P> So I think I will wait to hear what the word of mouth is before I stand in line for this. My hope is that JJ will refresh ST the way Bond and Batman were is recent years.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Sounds super corny, but could be fun...

    by Chewtoy

    I'll be happy when the whole "prequel" phase of storytelling is over and done with. Who the hell are these people who have been dying to see classic characters in their youths? "Sure, Ahab is interesting in Moby Dick, but what was he like as a lovestruck teenager? Now *that's* a story to tell!" But aside from the stupid prequel angle and the cheesy dialog suggested above, this will probably be fun... which is really all I need out of a Star Trek flick.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    DrLektor Re: Chekov

    by codymr

    Funny you mention that... In a previous talkback about this new ST film, I asked the same question about Chekov and the continuity problem. Someone reconned it for me by suggesting that Chekov was always on the Enterprise, but was not promoted to the bridge crew until the second season of TOS... hence allowing for Khan and the continuity issue in the new film. <P> The idea is so simple I can't believe I never thought of it before.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Ethan Big Nuts McKinley

    by codymr


  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Hmmmmm ... well ...

    by MattHooper

    ok, maybe. But that Bones dialogue sounds a bit "off". Maybe if Kelley were still alive he would've had something to say about that -- but it just doesn't sound like something Dr. McCoy would say to me. And I might add that if you intend to add the kind of background situation mentioned by both of these tipsters in the opening scene, it would be smart for the filmmakers to take it very seriously and not as a simple "device". It sounds rather BOLD, but hopefully they haven't destroyed their own conceptual ideas of the characters by pulling punches, i.e. holding back on the realism. One last thing, these descriptions make it all to obvious that this film will definitely suffer without Shatner's involvement. If only in flashback, his presence will probably be demanded by the audience, once they really get into it. This is in fact a story which seems to revolve around both Spock and Kirk, respectively. Having one appear and not the other...just doesn't work, given the way this movie sounds to be devised. How can you have the emotional punch of one without the other.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Winona Ryder is playing Spock's HUMAN mother

    by performingmonkey

    This has already been confirmed. The Vulcan woman holding the baby will probably be a nurse or whatever.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Kevin Smith saw it, liked it, and is a Geek Prince

    by Solomon Kane

    Good enough for me.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Is it definitely playing before Quantum of Solace in every theat

    by thefastestprofessoralive

    .ooor is it in selected theatres? How do I find out? And yes, yes, I know, before you yell at me I know I can just wait until it plays on the internets and watch it a billion times from my home computer... I'm just curious.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Post the link...

    by Seany-Wan

    So we can see this!!!!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith

    by Geekgasm

    is a Star Wars geek. He don't know nothing from Trek.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Star Trek is a Tricky Balance

    by Larry of Arabia

    The OS and NG were like lightning in a bottle. They shouldn't have worked but they did. The OS especially had it's share of terrible, campy cliches that somehow worked due to the fact that the cast took everything seriously and had some sparkling chemistry. The good & great Star Trek movies all had just the right amount of camp goodness, totally self aware moments, and dead serious situations, often at the exact same time. ("KAAAAHHHNNN!!!," and McCoy's summary of the plot to iv: "You're proposing that we go backwards in time, find humpback whales, then bring them froward in time, drop 'em off, and hope to hell they tell this probe what to do with itself!") I hope he has the chops to pull it off but rarely has anyone been able to make it happen.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Perhaps I should look at it this way:

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    If scenes talked about out of their proper context anger a lot of Talkbackers, I'll probably like it.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Nucelar wessels?

    by DrLektor

    Yeah codymr, that's what I figured. I'm not sure how the whole "every member of the crew joined Starfleet at the same time" thing is going to look but maybe they'll pull it off. Hey Chewtoy, don't give anybody any ideas, this might be the impetus Hollywood needs to stop remaking movies directly and focus on prequel shit. We've already had young Indy and the Star Wars debacle. We don't need Robocop 0: Murphy the early years, the Young Freddy Krueger Adventures or Rambo: The Nam saga.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    I'm not a Star Trek fan.

    by StarWarsRedux

    Therefore, I don't really care.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by JonRD463

    Ah, but at the very least, you clicked the post from the main page. Now, we can assume from this that you probably read the article before making a comment here in the TB, so on some level, you DO care.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1 p.m. CST

    Don't want this lame ass star trek reboot shit

    by Gungan Slayer

    ah shit

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Thing is, even if the prequel bombs...

    by V'Shael

    I can't think of a single genre series or movie or whatever, where a reboot/reimagining/prequel which bombed spectacularly, was then shelved so that the original could continue. <p> That means no new series. No more TNG movies. No DS9 movies. No Voyager movies. Actually, that last one is probably a good thing.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    orci & kurtzman are annoying writers.....

    by rben

    just get screenplay by ellison or gerrold (from a story by larry niven or jack mcdevitt) hell, just bring back the slavers and the guardian and go nuts. "mayans did not exist at the beginning of time". classic ellison. not sure why i remembered that but i'm sure it has something to do with douchbag writers who write shite like transformers and therefore think they can "do" science fiction. don't even get me started on "fringe".

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Spy number 2 mysteriously also got coffee

    by picardsucks

    for JJ on Friday

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Not real

    by Cobbio

    I'm never one to call "plant" on reviews, but those were both tremendously fake opinions.<p> The descriptions were too specifically remembered, too wannabe-bad-speller to make it seem legit, and too glowingly wordy.<p> I'm excited as hell for the Star Trek reboot, since my brother visited JJ's set many times as they were filming and said good things.<p> But those weren't real reviews.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:05 p.m. CST

    UK couldn't have gotten that trailer with QoS?

    by Brody77

    Bastards. At least then I wouldn't have felt robbed of my £15. How come 1 guy mentions Nimoy & the other doesn't? Surely that's the most important thing in the trailer? Oh, Chris Pine looks shite.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Plant? Self Processed Plant?


    Not too hard to spot them when they are employed by the people whom this is a giant financial gamble for. Ill wait to see for myself.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Chris Pine will be the new Hayden Christensen


    After he fucks up the Kirk role so much, that the backlash stays with him for the rest of his career. Did anybody see him in anything besides Smokin' Aces? He's a terrible actor.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Yeah, he was in Just My Luck...

    by WIBoomer1

    ...with Lindsay Lohan...he wasn't that bad, actually. Do you guys really want older actors to do this? 'cause if there's sequels, and it takes a couple years in between films...the crew will get old mighty quick...just look at the Harry Potter "kids".

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    "I'm a PERSON and my name is KIRKY!"

    by pokadoo

    "I'm a Pod-bike pilot, and one day i'm gonna fly outa here and see all the stars! Yipeeeee!!!"

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Sounds good, but as a Summer tentpole??????

    by The Founder

    I think Paramount should have kept Trek in the Xmas season. A summer film it doesn't scream. I hope it's not 09's Speed racer, which I enjoyed by the way.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    So, this is the Barack Obama movie?

    by antonphd

    You will be from two worlds.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST



    will the phasers be set on TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

    "Check out the new Warp 11 Album "

    by randie1313

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    "Check out the new Warp 11 Album "

    by randie1313

    Q: "What will be the next 'big thing' in desktop video?" A: "My ass."

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Kirk's Intro Sounds Retarded and Ridiculous

    by LaserPants

    Was there a hot metal guitar lick peeled off after he said his name? Maybe a little lens flare off of his teethshades? Just to let us know that he's... cool? And by cool I mean... LAME.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    These reports reek of PR, but I'm still excited about this.

    by AnnoyYou

    Call me easy, but even with the glossy "Gossip Girl/90210"-ish Pine as Kirk, I still want to see the rest of the cast. BTW, isn't Spock's mom human? And what is up with Spock going all Sylar on Kirk? Spock was always completely unemotional from the beginning - why would he lose control at Starfleet then regain it while on the Enterprise? I hope Abrams attends to little niggling things like this, or all the Trekkers will have his head. I still can't wait to see this, though.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Sometimes "plants" can be tasty!!

    by thot

    Star Trek has always lent itself to a prequel (and a reboot) and this, my friends, is it! It sounds promising. As for Spock's emotion, re-watch The Cage and watch his demeanor and you can see the argument for his being more emotional in his earlier days.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Sounds shit

    by photoboy

    Sounds pretty fucking awful, especially Kirk as a wayward teen. I'll give the trailer a chance, but this all sounds very much like Nemesis 2.0.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Sounds like it was done by the trailertron 3000

    by alienindisguise

    I'm eager to see the Spock footage but yeah, the crap with Kirk sounds way weak. Looks like Star Trek will get their version of Anakin Skywalker with this one.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Stop hoping this will be good, you nimrods...

    by Zandunga know why? One reason: it's written by crapmeisters Alex Kurtzman & Roberto Orci, they of shiftest The Island, horribly written Transformers (zero plot or character development), and the crap Zorro sequel (not that the first was amazing, but compare what Kurtzman & Orci did with the sequel with the work of Ted Elliot and Terry Rossio with the first). They suck. And if the writing sucks, the movie sucks. Maybe it'll be mildly entertaining at best, but that's it, so stop hosing your shorts. And don't give me any of this, "who cares if the script has any depth or character development, we just want fun & explosions!" Wrong, Iron Man & Dark Knight proved the best path to great thrills is an intelligent script, and these two jerkoffs have proven over & over that they cannot deliver.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST

    What we WANTED with new SW

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    The Phantom Menace trailer looked like that too. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    "Krueger Babies"

    by LarryTate

    Sundays on TOON.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST


    by StarWarsRedux

    My curiosity stems mainly from the fact that JJ Abrams is behind it-- and really, I'm not sure why somebody would abandon a show like "Lost" to work on stuff like "Mission Impossible" or "Star Trek". Sure, they might be good, but they aren't his creations-- it's a bit weird for him to leave one of his own behind. That said, just because I'm not a "Star Trek" fan doesn't mean I'm not curious about the franchise in general, or that I haven't enjoyed it now and again. It's just not a high priority for me, the way "Star Wars" is. Perhaps this is the better statement-- JJ's "Trek" could go either way with me. If it's good, fine. If it's bad, I'm not going to care too much, because I don't have any real emotional investment here. Not in the way a real fan does, so I'm mostly just an outside observer. Besides, if it opens on a Friday, I'll probably be at home watching "The Clone Wars", anyway, so it's a moot point.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Family stone

    by a rolling stone

    I just hope they have strong chemistry together, like the OS and NG casts had. They were a family-unit. If these guys jive with each other on that level, this might be the first of many. JJ has his moments, right? LOST is great, and I've heard Mr. King has considered him to interpret the Dark Tower series...not that I'm sure if THAT'S a good idea or not.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:29 p.m. CST

    yea, that TPM trailer...

    by yubnubrocks

    show me one geek who didn't blow a load when that shot of Darth Maul igniting his dual-blade appeared ... anyone? I thought so.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Yeah, TPM Trailer Reduced Me To The State Of A 5 Year Olde Consu

    by LaserPants

    Then the actual movie came out and... well... it bad touched me... my... metaphorical... CHILDHOOD!!!! WAAAAH!!! WAAAAAAAH!!!! Then AOTC and... okay, maybe, okay... a step in the right direction, but still, my metaphorical childhood's anal hymen is sore... then, ROTS, and, like some bizarre promise keeper / no sex christian cult thingee, my metaphorical childhood anal hymen was restored to full strength and the ewoks and the fetish princesses and the gaybots and all the rest danced their silly, silly dance around the metaphorical childhood's anal hymen, blessing it with eternal love in Star Wars fandoms most holy church of the consumermind with zips, zaps, and splosions 4vr in Space Heaven... Amen...

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:41 p.m. CST

    This Will Probably Be Decent, But

    by LaserPants

    It won't replace the old ones, obviously. Cause they're the originals and they're totally hilarious and campy and smart and dumb and awesome in a way that can't be recaptured, and really shouldn't be. Their sole job here is to reintroduce the original characters in a way that is both in touch with the original shows, but smart enough to connect with younger audiences without dumbing it down. Kids are smart these days. Well, you know, more tech savvy, more in tune with the actual future we're entering into. Don't be afraid to make it smart AND fun. And don't crawl up your own backstory's ass like the SW prequels did until the 11th hour redemption of the series (imho), ROTS decided to do it all right.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Enough already, you bitter twats!

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Only this site, maybe those douchebags at CHUD think their warped views on the "Star Wars" prequels is somehome god's honest truth, which of course they are dead fucking wrong. People love those movies, if not they would have made TPM a flop and no one would have bothered with the other two. The movies are under-appreciated, they will gain more respect as time moves on- fuck! TPM is ten years old almost! I've always said and have yet to be proven wrong, if you think those movies stink, you were never that big of a fan to begin with. As for Trek, I dig it and this shows some promise- there is at least some non-Berman life to it, so far at least. The Vulcan woman holding the baby is not Spock's mom you ignorant fuckholes! Wynona Ryder plays Spock's Ma, Amanda. Also, as long the Lord of the Rings exist, the prequels will never be considered "bad" in my book.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    this will cure me of Star Trek...

    by Circean6

    I was able to leave Star Wars behind forever with queer Hutts & perky teen sidekicks. I was able to fully retire from comics thanks to Final Secret Crisis Invasions (and Grant Morrison) and now JJ will enable me to walk away from anything Star Trek. So much for the geek life..

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Reboot 80s Buck Rogers Starring Gil Gerard

    by LaserPants

    Cocaine Space Disco Action!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:02 p.m. CST


    by yubnubrocks

    Has anyone thought about redoing The Last Starfighter?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Sucks to everyone but me. I dig the geek life!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Reboot THE LAST STARFIGHTER And KRULL As A Crossover Series

    by LaserPants

    Can the inept digital graphics and the power of the Glaive save the universe from the grip of the Bad Guys?! BADOIDOIDOIDOIDOIDOIDOING!!!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:27 p.m. CST

    We dont own these things, you bitter twats

    by dalbatron

    To all those negative pricks please just fuck off and wait until you have watched the movie. I can't believe some of you nobbers. Bitchin and wining about a trailer you havn't even see yet... FUCK OFF!! Someone who bitched please explain how you do a back story without showing them as cadets... Fucking whining wankers, i'll cut you deep and fuck the wound.... Now, any one fancy a cuppa?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:34 p.m. CST

    The best talkbacks...

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    ...are always full of passive-aggressive rants. You brainless, yet lovable morons.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Space Police?

    by LHombreSiniestro

    What is this, "Message From Space"? Glowing walnuts for all!!!

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Tarsus IV and against

    by Village Idiot

    Dr. Lektor, I guess you're right, and the whole Tarsus IV incident could still be included, but...I still get a feeling it's not. <br><br> (Just out of curiousity, why do you think he would he have been sent there as punishment? It wasn't a penal colony, was it?) <br><br> I'm sure the movie will still be okay without this -- a facet of Kirk's past that was used in one episode, and then completely forgotten about and never mentioned again for the rest of the series -- but for whatever reason, it did stick with me. It was good pathos.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Where is the Megan Fox as Wonder-Woman talk back?

    by Leafar the Lost

    I know it is a hoax, but why hasn't anyone at Warner Brothers (or whoever the hell actually own's the rights) made some kind of offer to her? This could actually work with the right script, director, and at least 80 million US dollars. Idiots must really be in charge over is the hoax site:

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:27 p.m. CST

    by dalbatron

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:28 p.m. CST


    by dalbatron

    bloody beyonce has expressed and interest!!! Didn't know wonderwoman was black....

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:37 p.m. CST

    and cool camera moves

    by Dreamfasting

    Please, please let it not be anything like Cloverfield. I think I'm still seasick from the "cool camera moves" in that one.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Nicholas Meyer

    by Grand Moff Toht

    He needs to come in and write a star trek script with more Shakespeare and Sherlock Holmes references. Then ramble on about them on the director's cut DVD commentary track. Seriously, I do think he made the two best Trek films ever, at least the ones I enjoyed the most (II and VI), and I can't understand for the life of me, after how many episodes with the original cast, and how many Star Trek movies, what more there can possibly be said about Star Trek. Just quit milking it for money, leave it alone, let us enjoy what was because it cannot be brought back again. The original cast had unmatched chemistry. Let be.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 8:43 p.m. CST

    And Shatner...

    by Grand Moff Toht

    He's as big a star as ever (not just his girth). Emmy winner. And Shatner's not involved with this in any way? Hmmmm... that makes no sense. Actually, it does. Because if we heard the real Kirk's voice in this film, or were treated to short interludes of old Kirk reminiscing with Spock during the film, we'd be reminded how much no one else can play Kirk and anything else is an exercise in futility. And the filmmakers don't want that to happen. They're hoping we don't remember the real Kirk and compare Shatner to the new guy. Nothing against anyone working on this film, I'm sure they're giving it their all, I just think it's a losing battle. Especially if the script was turned in by two hacks.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Corvette-Kirk proves they just don't "get Trek"

    by gruntybear

    That's a fucking blatant "come hither" to the non-Trek mainstream audience that they're desperately trying to lure into this film. The whole re-boot, with its painful "Dawson's Trek" vibe, is just dripping with this slick, tweener superficial bullshit. It's already alienating the Trekkies and it will not go down smoothly with the twittering Facebook children either. Just pull the fucking plug. We don't need a prequel Trek. We need a decent fucking Next Generation film and a post-Voyager series that takes its premise seriously. Not this half-baked teenage crap.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:38 p.m. CST


    by dalbatron

    you just dont understand do you? do you think this movie was made for you. Or for any fans... not really, its to get a whole new generation interested. And as for taking the premise serious... are you serious, tribbles etc. etc. come on now... its a space movie, not some merchant ivory, david lean epic...its a movie FFS, a movie for the masses, for the 'Laguna Beach' tribe, not for you... its a shame but its life in hollywood. dont shorten your life bitchn'.. go and watch your fav old stuff again and again and again.....

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Spies- What music?

    by Rubiks Doob

    Original composition or from previous Trek TV/movies?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:46 p.m. CST

    And fuck a 'decent Next Generation film'

    by Rubiks Doob

    Let's see-1 out of 4 TNG films didn't suck complete ass, that would be First Contact. Whereas Classic Trek is 5 for 6 good or at least as good as FC, only V counts as pure crap. So fuck that noise, gruntybear and just stay home.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:50 p.m. CST


    by dalbatron

    no-one ever asks for a decent deep space nine movie... funny that...

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Muppet Babies? Star Trek Babies?


    Why do we need to see all the characters as kids? <P> I find these origin stories always take shit too far and explain way more than ever needed to be explained. People WANT the mystery.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Star Trek Reboot Problem

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    I think Star Trek is a unique property, in that it works on two very particular levels, but doesn't necessarily work on a third. The third is characters. The ST universe doesn't get by on its amazing characters - it gets by on the basis of its concepts and - and this is the point germane to this reboot - on its ACTORS. Yes. <p>The original ST is about those actors, and - let's face it - it's about the Shat. HE is what makes the character timeless. I think McCoy and Spock are similar, if to a lesser extent (nobody outshits the Shat!) and so the backstory on those characters isn't that compelling without their bizarre charms.<p>Ultimately TNG was the best way to continue ... Try and keep the spirit and expand on the concepts, flesh it out, enrich it. But with new characters. Revisiting the original crew with different people in the roles is a fool's errand. That being said, the movie may work but it's not going to really hit the spot for anyone.<p>As for that TPM trailer, it was the greatest movie I never saw.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Beyonce as Wonder Woman

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Beyond the fact that Beyonce is utterly charmless, I don't have a problem with it

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Can you say p-p-p-plant, K-k-k-Ken?

    by MurderMostFowl

    *sigh* Even if these aren't planted reviews, it's got me quite convinced that it's going to be 90210 in space. Do you realize how ridiculous it is going to be for these people to all serve on the same ship? How do you think that is even possible? That doesn't happen in the US navy, so in a federation of planets with probably 1M times the number of people serving, these people are all old college drinking buddies? <BR> oh well. I star trek has never had the right sense of scale anyway ( except for DS-9, they got it right mostly )

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:10 p.m. CST

    oh and was spock yelling the whole time?

    by MurderMostFowl

    Sorry, some TOS humor there.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:12 p.m. CST


    by dalbatron

    great points there... yes, i think the love of ST comes almost purley out of its characters. Next is its innocence. The original actors are old or dead, so to do another one with those guys is out. To replace them with new actors and place it in the same time line as the original series would cause too much backlash, so where to go.. the only way is back.. it is wrong but it is the only way they can milk the cash cow one more time... forget integrity, its about the green back. Lets face it, the rule is if we watched the original series as kids on tv then this movie isnt for us. Remember how our parents used to tell us to turn down the music and that 'it wasnt like that in our time...' well guess its come full circle eh?

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:18 p.m. CST


    by Thunderbolt Ross

    But I think it's important to distinguish between great characters as WRITTEN and great characters as the actors PLAYED them. I think Bones Spock and Kirk were good characters, but it was really about that group of actors, and that includes Sulu, Scottie, Uhura ... the whole gang. But the characters aren't so well-defined on the page that they can be played effectively by someone else. Well, I doubt it anyway.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:27 p.m. CST


    by dalbatron

    I agree, it is difficult to seperate the 2 after so many years. Shat is kirk, nimoy is spock etc. etc.They added the flesh to some rather straight forward characters, and subsequently the characters were fleshed out with the specific actors in mind. ergo hard shoes to fill...

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST

    classic star trek films..

    by MamoVaka

    Had the benefit of true hollywood classic producers/directors/writers at the helm.. Older men who understand the characters and nuiance.. Harve Bennet, Gene Roddenberry, Leonard Nimoy, Nicholas Meyer.. those men are no longer involved in the production aspect of the films.. You wont see those first 6 films ever again..

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:47 p.m. CST

    That's it. I'm not going to see it.

    by kabong

    STINO <p> <p> This is going to be like the "Thunderbirds" movie Frakes frakked. <p> The same imbeciles that go to see every POS that smears a cinema screen will turn it into a money-maker, inevitably. That will garner green lights for next three. It will be at least 20 years before Star Trek will return in authentic form.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Gruntybear, do you know ANYTHING about Kirk?

    by MattmanReturns

    Kirk likes antiques, has a ranch, and is a thrill-seeker (sky-diving, rock climbing, etc). He also cheats on tests and steals ships. So I'm not sure why Kirk driving an antique car off a cliff is at all weird to you, if you know anything about the character.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Ethan Big Nuts McKinley

    by gotilk

    Great job on that, really great. Keep up the good work. How the heck did you get Ian McKellen ? Very funny, effective. Love the caveman mumble-talk of the second one best. Can't wait to see the next one. Thanks for sharing.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Beyonce as a non-singer who thinks

    by crankyoldguy

    her poop don't stink. She's an AWFUL vocalist, shrill at most times. A pure marketing PR creation. And as an actress? Walked out on that third Austin Powers...and I was watching it at home as rental. At least Madonna's been a force of will, though she hasn't made truly memorable recordings since the last century.

  • Nov. 9, 2008, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Where is Orcus?

    by thebearovingian

    Have you been banned, my friend?

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Ya' know what's great?

    by shran

    Is that none of us has to give a shit what each other's opinion about this or any other movie is. Personally, I'm looking forward to this and have been since it was first announced. I don't think it's going to be Muppet Babies or 90210. And I don't for a second think it will be TOS. I'm just anxious to see if it has the stuff. Listen, I love Star Trek and I always will. I don't crack on other people because they cream all over Anime or comic books, or gore porn. If you like those things great. I hope people make fun movies for you to watch. But let's just put the stupid "my child hood was raped" or "this is the death of TOS" or other such related bullshit to rest. And quit putting down Star Trek fans. Maybe you're just pissed because girls won't talk to you. Or maybe you didn't make the high school football team. If you are on this site and commenting, you are an outrageous geek. The geekiest of geeks. You are above nobody. We are equals. Deal.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Kirk's joyriding in a "mid-60's corvette" ???

    by Bill Clay

    Since James T. Kirk was born in 2233, he's driving a 270+ year old car. My suspension of disbelief meter just melted.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Sounds good to me...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    'Though the 60s 'Vette being stolen and deliberately trashed by baby Kirk seems a little too much to swallow. A 'tween knowing how to drive and operate an antique car over a century old? And then driving it off a cliff???<p>Other than that, it sounds good.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Then again...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    As someone pointed out, Kirk IS a major ASS who cheats, steals and knocks up women without thinking or caring about it. So, I guess that's in line with his character, even though gasoline probably no longer exists 200 years in the future when he steals the car.<p>Maybe baby Kirk broke into the Smithsonian. :)

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 1:05 a.m. CST


    by thehoebo

    JJ is an overrated hack, and that Trek, however much you want to over-write it, is lame. Always was, always will be, no matter how much you try to 'Top Gun' Kirk no-one in a mainstream audience will want to see this. Its too uncool, period. Star Wars fans expect too much, the prequels aren't nearly as bad as you make out, and some Trek films are pretty good too, at best. Says a lot about Hollywood that they can't even write an original space movie any more, given all the remakes and reboots, surely a Galactica remake is due again? Here's a tip Hollywood studio's, READ SOME BOOKS, adapt those, don't remake shitty series and reboot them into unwanted films!

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 2:23 a.m. CST


    by SingingHatchet

    I wish it weren't so.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 3:36 a.m. CST


    by alice 13

    gotta have some kirk-sulu action.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 5:37 a.m. CST


    by quantize

    Nah dude, you're delusional if you don't notice how completely devoid of genuine drama and humor (yeh even in a 'dark' story like the SW prequels were) the characters are... You watch all 6 films and somethin' goes very wrong with the direction in the the whole thing was dreamt up by a bored army of droids rather than starring one.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 6:27 a.m. CST

    aliens and phasers and death!

    by JAGUART

    Oh My! aliens and phasers and death! Oh mY!

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 7:23 a.m. CST

    So Kirk is driving a vintage...

    by Kid Z

    ...make that WAY vintage, 200+ year old 'Vette? Think about it... any of you out there have any 200+ year old tech that's in anything near working order? Yeah... I can tell this was written by the same fuckwits that wrote Transformers!

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 8:10 a.m. CST

    I have a problem with Beyonce as Wonder Woman.

    by Leafar the Lost

    Yes, it is because Beyonce is black. The casting of Halle Berry as Catwoman ruined that movie (and the horrible acting, script, director, etc). If you cast a black woman as WW, then you must cast a black man (Will Smith) for the next Superman reboot. If it doesn't matter, then why not? A black Wonder Woman means a black Superman. Plus I don't like Beyonce's music and I would rather have the insanely hot Megan Fox in the role.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Didn't they ever see the "Piece of the Action" episode

    by Ingeld

    Kirk doesn't know how to drive a car. And don't be telling me that was because he couldn't use the clutch. Who would have a '69 Corvette that was an automatic? The thrill is in the shifting.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    As admittedly silly as it sounds about him driving a Corvette

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    nobody here is willing to give modern technology the benefit of the doubt that perhaps in our lifetime preservation techniques may come about to fully preserve an antique automobile for centuries? Or that the car may have been retrofitted in the future with an alternative power source? If you've got 100k to spend you can get a muscle car redone to have all the comforts and performance of a new sports car or luxury sedan..

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 9:18 a.m. CST


    by Animation

    I'd rather have Kirk rolling a hover car, yo. Trying to give them a sense of nostalgia by associating them with vehicles that are nostalgic to us now ... seems odd. Oh well. I'll just ignore the trailer when it comes out.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST

    You "must" cast a black man as Superman?

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    That makes no sense.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Tuning Capt. Kirk into Dawson's Creep

    by Dick Bahls

    Kirk driving a 1960's Corvette???? With the crap I am seeing so far I doubt JJ or Orci ever sat down & watched a single episode. Capt. Kirk was never an Abercrombie model/lost frat boy/smart ass/womanizer. Everything he did was to accomplish his mission & protect his ship & crew. The times he did disobey orders were for those reasons alone, never because he was trying to be "the cool guy who gets chicks". I will not be seeing this garbage, and I suggest as many of you who have better things to do (a stretch, I know), should join me in boycotting this muck. PINENOTKIRK.COM should be going up soon. Don't let these guys get away with it this time. We had no choice with the prequels because it was totally Lucas own property, which he financed himself & did what he wished with it. You have a choice this time. I still for the life of me can't figure out who they think the're marketing this to. Let this thing bomb big time (150M turkey) to send a clear message to these folks.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST


    by bobjustbob

    I've got a bad feeling about this...

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    why Kirk drives a corvette

    by ArcadianDS

    It says that he's a spoiled rich kid acting out rebelliously to get attention. I realize that most people assume that he comes from a rural poor farming family, but this isn't actually true. His family was traditional military officers, and they had some money to go with that. It shows that even the most valuable vehicle one could possibly own in that time period was nothing to him. He'd trash it and just not care.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    We also see a woman in silhouette (Uhura?) pulling off her top

    by Smashing

    What? Will Chris Pine do this too?, that lad is seeeexy.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    James T Kirk = John McCain?

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    and ... Will Smith = Superman? You sick fuckers.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    "James Tiberius Kirk"- that sounds retarded.

    by Cotton McKnight

    Why would Kirk, who is called Jim by every friend he has, announce his full name like that. I officially hate this movie now.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Why would Starfleet Academy accept such a hothead?

    by Royston Lodge

    I fully accept I may not know what I'm talking about, but would Westpoint or Annapolis accept somebody with that kind of personal history? I'll be disappointed if Kirk is too much like Tom Cruise in Top Gun.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    What? Kirk's from a wealthy family?

    by Royston Lodge

    I thought "rich" and "poor" were supposed to be obsolete concepts by the time James T. Kirk was a teenager. Surely Abrams isn't diverging from Roddenberry's vision of Earth as a communist paradise, is he? I bet the red corvette is an homage to Rush's song Red Barchetta. Kirk is destroying it because internal combustion engines are illegal and he'd rather destroy the family heirloom than see it confiscated by the authorities.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    I'm convinced: Red Corvette = Red Barchetta

    by Royston Lodge

    Dig the lyrics to Red Barchetta. I bet 5,000 quatloos this is the inspiration for Kirk's red Corvette:

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Angsty Kirk...

    by I AM ROCKO

    ...I never imagine Kirk as an angsty teenager to be honest, yes driven, a tad ego centric but ultimtaley heroic...i'm sick of this angsty stuff, I really can't imagine that this will have much crossover to be honest, this movie cost what $150 million? This means it needs to gross at least $600 million to break even, not Trek film has ever grossed that much! Not even the good ones and when it was very popular!

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Word from my Contacts at Paramount...

    by Admiral Nelson

    ...who are genuine fans of ST:TOS is that this film is going to infuriate long-time fans, for a bunch of reasons. A.) the script plays like "Top Gun in Space." B.) The production design (including the exterior of the Enterprise" is absolutely abysmal. People who've seen it says that "Galaxy Quest" has better set design; the Enterprise interiors look variously like "a sci-fi theme restaurant" or "the cosmetics counter at a department store." The Enterprise exterior is atrocious -- the ship has been enlarged to BSG size (it's way bigger than 1000 feet), and the proportions are awful -- a tiny secondary hull and gargantuan engines. (As my friends said, there's a reason Paramount isn't showing the whole thing yet -- the fans are gonna hate it when they see it.) C.) J.J. Abrams isn't a Star Trek fan -- he's a Star Wars fan, and it shows. D.) The scriptwriters have no love for TOS -- they grew up on The Next Generation, and their take on the characters is simply wrong. And finally, here's a plot detail that you read here first, to prove that I know what I'm talking about: there's a scene where the Enterprise does an atmospheric drop just like the Galactica in the "Exodus" ep (Abrams is a big BSG fan.) I'm seeing this film, but mainly for the ILM effects, the Michael Giacchino score, and because of Simon freaking Pegg as Scotty. (And don't get me started on how stupid it is to have a pre-teen Kirk driving a vintage Corvette 200 years in the future.)

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    as for the music

    by MajorTom

    I see that scene with mid 60s Corvette and I hear....Heavy Metal

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    The ST script *is* "Top Gun in Space"

    by Admiral Nelson

    And that's why anyone who's a fan of the original show is going to hate it. However, kids today who think of ST:TOS in the same way that 30/40-somethings think of Captain Video in the 1950s, or even Flash Gordon in the 40s, will probably eat this crap up, and not even realize that the characters of Kirk, Spock and McCoy are totally off from their original counterparts.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 1:40 p.m. CST

    You had me at "Uhura's tits"

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    "Kirk drives a Corvette" = The new "Nuked The Fridge"

    by SpyGuy

    And we all know how well INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULLFUCK turned out.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    But Kirk wasn't really a hellion, right?

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    I mean, didn't that "Shore Leave" episode wherein Kirk sees his old tormentor Finnegan establish that young James T. was a kind of bookish, nerdy guy? I haven't seen that episode in years but I thought it was stated or at least very strongly implied that he wasn't a crazy kid. Picard was but I didn't think Kirk was. Thinking of Kirk in that way always made the character more interesting to me. I could be wrong though.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Kirk's Vette. Spock's Volvo

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    I remember back in '89

    by durhay

    people in the theatre cheering for the Star Trek V trailer.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST



    blah blah 60's least it's a something different!!! Piques my interest more than if they went for the space scene with the original Kirk monologue or something similar-lets face it, we will ALL see this movie! And then whine about it here 3 hours later! Bring on the trailer.....

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Zoe Saldana = Cocktease

    by Monkey_King

    Count me in all the way....

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Is trailer confirmed attached to QoS?

    by bobjustbob

    I've seen rumors but nothing more. And has anyone other than these 2 "insiders" confirm that the trailer was previewed at Paramount? <p>Just asking...

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Kirk from wealthy family?

    by kabong

    Wasn't his father just a redshirt on a starship? <p> Why does every show have to involve high school? <p> Let me answer that question: the fags of Hollyweird think of nothing but teen boy meat.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Spock will be the outcast geek of Academy.

    by kabong

    Looka dat weirdo Vulcan with the finger salute. Live long and prosper dis, bij. <p> Big moment at 40-minute mark: Spock says, "Totally illogical," for the first time in Federation history.

  • Nov. 10, 2008, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Star Trek: Motion Picture

    by darthwaz1

    I'm watching the directors cut (again). This version is so great and is really the only trek movie in my opinion that captures the feel of the OS, I doubt the new movie will capture that, although I do hope so.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 12:59 a.m. CST

    JJ Abrams' Star Trek=1998 "Lost in Space" movie

    by zacdilone

    My excitement for this just dropped a TON.

  • Nov. 15, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST

    get it while its hott

    by HAPAJEDI JNsl4