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New TERMINATOR SALVATION Footage removed!! But James Cameron Clarifies His Thoughts On The Film
Merrick here...
The embed below is courtesy of Trailer Addict (HERE).
This interview with TERMINATOR SALVATION Production Designer Martin Laing shows us quite a bit of new stuff...both concept art & real footage.
I'm not blown away yet, but my Suckometer isn't sounding off either...
Hey folks, Harry here - Got a call from the studios to remove the embed, as apparently it was not an official release and they're now going after poor Trailer Addict for releasing it. So sad to have some of the first genuine coolness regarding this project taken down. The film really could use more coolness out there. Anyway, I figured while I was doing this, I'd go ahead and share with you some comments from James Cameron regarding the new TERMINATOR film. Here's Jim's comments:
There's been some discussion at AICN and elsewhere of me rescinding my so-called blessing of T4 and that's not the case. The truth is there never was a blessing to rescind, and there's been some kind of misunderstanding between me and McG, perfectly innocent I believe. He asked me in a phone call when I was shooting in New Zealand earlier this year if I would be a supporter and creative participant in the new film. I said sure, send me the script and I'll give you my thoughts. And I warned him that free advice is usually worth what you pay for it. For whatever reason I never got the script and to date I haven't seen a foot of film other than what everybody's seen in the trailer, which is not enough to form an opinion. So I have zero basis for supporting or dissing the film. As I said in an interview, for all I know it could be a masterpiece or it could be a big steaming pile. I think all people heard was the steaming pile part and concluded I was against the film, which I'm not. In fact, it might be very good, an opinion based solely on what Sam Worthington has shared with me. He's nobody's fool when it comes to material, and has absolutely the lowest bullshit quotient of anyone I know, and he has repeatedly told me that he reckons the film is going to be good. I know him to be very critical (in a healthy way) of his own work, and an actor who always aspires to excellence, so I know he wouldn't praise the film if he didn't feel it. Obviously I can't give my blessing (whatever that means anyway ) to the film completely blind. But I'm predisposed to be supportive based on Sam's involvement and his judgment, because I believe in him. So there you have it. Let's all keep our fingers crossed that it's not a steaming pile. Jim out
Herc here. For the non-Aussies who do not yet register Sam Worthington as a household name, I thought I'd save you the trip I just took to IMDb. Worthington is a 32-year-old Australian actor who appears in both "Terminator Salvation" and Cameron's "Avatar."
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THIRD!
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Not really blown away with anything I saw
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nice to have terminator movies that are not Arnold vehicles.<br>
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...kinda sucks. Almost patronizing tone. I don't know, it just didn't sound as iconic as it did in the first two.
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But I'm not at excited levels yet...
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The more I like. The clunky looking prototype Terminators were the best thing about part 3 so to me, that T-600 looks pretty badass. Good to see a little bit of Bale in there. No matter if the flick is good, bad or ugly, I'm still there.
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He offers no judgments on anything other than upbeat, all-inclusive statements about how wonderful everything is. It makes me a bit nervous, actually. I feel like I'm getting a hard sell.
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While I'm really liking everything else I am seeing in this the Terminator Motorbikes seem a bit pointlesss. Reminds me of Transformers in a bad way.
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I feel we are being handed some amazing looking films lately. Maybe my personal taste has become dulled, but seems like in recent years we've had a ton of badass flicks come our way. There's still crap being made, dont get me wrong, but the standard has gone from great to mind blowing. Cant wait for what the future holds.
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But this looks fucking brilliant.
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Except for the line "we did all this research and testing...on the Internet". That doesn't fly for High School assignments, it shouldn't fly for a billion dollar franchise. It just makes it sound cheap and unprofessional. Which is exactly what they should be trying to prove that this movie (and McG) isn't.
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but I wasn't blown away.
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I love the idea of the T600 being part of the 'set' of Terminators in this flick. It looks so primitive and yet so fucking huge and ridiculous, you would honestly poop yourself if one walked near you.
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as much the straight to DVD look of the shitty 3rd film. I hate most of the second one but the first is one of my favourite films of all time. This looks a little too 'Bay' to me though.
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everyone trying as usual to say at best a grudging "yeah it looks okay" or "meh". How the fuck can you say a movie that looks like this is "meh"? </P> <P> If a movie that looks like this still makes you go "meh", then i suggest nothing short of downing a pint of LSD and then injecting yourself with angel dust and sticking your cock into an electricity substation is ever going to please you.
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..and Concept Art are usually under appreciated in Film these days. In this case - looks like they are on the right track. Good design will shape the environment and feeling of the final film. Good Example - Ralph McQuarrie/John Barry/Norman Reynolds - Star Wars Original Trilogy. Bad Example - Star Wars Prequel Trilogy (I can't be bothered to look up who worked on those pieces of shit).
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they've nailed it i think
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but i didnt. the bikes kind of looked lame, but some of the other models they showed were pretty good.
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This looks like something I could get into. Loved 1 & 2. Thought 3 was merely ok. Cautious optimism here...
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The flashes of the new Terminators didn't look original. Some looked like bugs, taken from the Matrix, and the bikes looked like a Transformers ripoff. But it's hard to talk about originality when we're discussing the 4th Terminator movie, which is being done by a bunch of guys who didn't make the original. I think I'm just over it.
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Not for me! I can't endure another inferior product. From the bullshit teeny bopper terminator from the shitty tv series to this masturbation of Cameron's work inspired by material by Harlan Ellison. Bale may get asses in the seats but not for long after this thing is hauled in SUMMER 2009!
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True it doesn't work in high school. But that's because their research is usually wikipedia and that's it or they plagiarize the hell out someone's work. I gotta believe that this type of research on the internet may be a tad more legit than that since a lot of the terminator lore is electronic in nature... It's in the books and comics and stuff too but there are a lot of websites to use as a reference point from which to create background stories.
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The hell you say.
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I'm starting to feel cautiously optimistic, although young Kyle Reese isn't sold on me yet...
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All I can say is we will see. I'll withhold judgment until the day it comes out.
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he is going to lay down some TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
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This looks really good. I'm getting excitied but not cray yet. T3 was not that great. And the Alien franchise has been raped to death after Aliens. So I hope this is a revival of Terminator and not another step down.
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the biggienator with the human face is actually pretty ominous! the rest of the new critters i could take or leave. i think the backdrops and landscapes are fucking AWESOME. i still just want to know what the machines goal is once all of humanity is wiped out. this almost has the feeling like it bridges terminator and the matrix- and that this is the era right after the machines take over, but before people are used as batteries...
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Yeah, I'm not sure what to think about the Terminator motorbikes either... <P> Although, overall I'd have to say this looks pretty good. When I heard that McG was helming this I tuned out. But based on the footage and the production art I've seen so far, I have to say I am cautiously optimistic. <P> I hope this will bring the franchise in line with Cameron-Terminator-Goodness.
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I am amazed no one commented on the harvester! Holy crap! That thing will scare the S#!$ out of me! For as rough as far off as we are from release, there was a surprising amount of polish in that video. I think McG *cough* might actually have done some good here...
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Doesn't work here. Hope they take it out.
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Nov. 7, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST
So the success of Transformers in no way influenced McG then
by dastickboy
I'm really hopeful of this film, but motorcycle and car terminators? What's the point when Hunter Killers and Terminators are already established in the mythology? Reckon the toy sales of this will be topping off the gross. Would have preferred McG to tell a story worth telling rather than sealing a licensing deal.
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...to finally set a TERMINATOR film in the post-apocalypse. If they did this was TERMINATOR 3, maybe the franchise would still have some dignity...and Schwarzenegger. It had better be good.
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kinda get a Mad Max but with a bad transformers feel. Esp when I saw that big ass terminator. Nice Draw-rings!
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Like what I've seen and heard so far, got a good feeling about this one. With Nolan and Bale's influence along with some Iron Jim mentoring, this could shape up to be the future War T-fans have been praying for. McGinty's a decent enough shooter (forget the MTV induced Angel fodder and check out 'Marshall')there's no denying his sense of visual flair, reigned in and focussed in the right direction Salvation could deliver the goods.
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Nov. 7, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST
Wow they're really trying to win the geeks over...
by TroutMaskReplicant
Seems like they've taken some of the plotting from 28 Days Later (the sleeper awakes) and some of the action elements from Transformers. Still, with McG (it was all going so well till your man said "McG") at the helm who knows how it'll turn out?
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We may be in a total depression when it comes out. I may have to collect soda bottles for the ticket money. But I will definitely see this movie.
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im sold bigtime ---
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completely ass-fucked the classic line. Strike that from the record and all else points to goodness. Will this be forever known as McG: Salvation?
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I love the post-apocalyptic David Lean scenery. The new Terminators rock and Christian Bale is in it...can't wait for the trailer on QoS.
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But to me, the Terminator story has been told and this franchise has now jumped into fantasy for me after Judgement Day occured in T3, so I have lost all interest since then.
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Nov. 7, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST
I totally see a FPS coming out in tandem with the movie
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and I will probably buy it.
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'Mototerminator'? Somewhere Jim Cameron is laughing.
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There are only 10 types of people in this world. Those who know binary and those who don't.
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I agree. The moto looks retarded.
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as I keep hearing people say they're screwing with continuity. As such, I may just sit this out too, see what gels and what doesn't, and cherry pick what I feel best fills the series as a whole. I've pretty much done that with things like Robocop and Aliens, and been pretty happy about it.
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...made me my tea with milk first, in my favourite Worlds Most Bestest Mug mug and with just the lightest spritz of gingered honey. Just how I like it.
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They are fast and maneuverable. Sounds like a great way to chase down a human and drag them away, which is what they are for. Why all the skepticism on something so simple? I was glad to see them thinking outside the box. No idea how this movie will come off, but that seems a silly thing to nitpick.<p> Useful robots actually DON'T look like people most of the time.<p> Anywho, I hope it's great, but I expect something that is fun but hollow. Sort of wish the children here didn't help to de-ball the ending with their irrational response to the spoiler stuff early on. <p> Later, I guess, they will complain that it wasn't original enough. *sigh*
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looked suspiciously similar to the Batpod.
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The 'mototerminators' encapsulate everything that is wrong with this project. Jim Cameron had a vision and put everything on the line to tell it. McG is just another hack promo director, all flashy visuals and wacky camera angles but a completely empty storyteller. I guess teenagers and kids will be happy with this but anyone who grew up with the original 2 Terminator films really needs to save their money for Avatar instead.
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There are actually 11 types of people. You forgot the other type that knows it well enough but is smart enough to ignore it most of the time.
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Nice to hear his position clarified. Now give us an Avatar teaser Jimbo!
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What a fucking prick. I can't stand that fucker.
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We all know it.
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Those pre-cameron terminators look creepy. And the 'Harvestor' is inspired. Exceeded my expectations. Cant wait.
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I SAID NOW.
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Except it.
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Camerons a fucking legend. Droid out.
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Harry, you need to find out from Jim when this horribly painful wait for some kind of official Avatar teaser/image/poster etc will end.
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Do we wait for the next post?
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did anyone happen to somehow save the embed? could i see it?
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Why go to all that effort and 'research' if you're going to drop stupid in jokes into the movie. And that line is delivered so feebly. Are we really expected to believe that shrimp grows up to be Kyle Reese??? Loved the opening bit with him stumbling on a ravaged LA though.
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No audio- PC is fucked up! but from what I can see. I'd say you got the bullshit Evil is tall crap ala Ronb Zombie. 8 foot tall Terminators!?!?!?! Dude didn;t they need dogs to fid them. Why * feet??? Aren't they trying to make them blend in. <P> The Christine/Duel Terminators- Killer Motorcycles and Cars, and then the Tremor Terminators. The sand worms. All I see is lots of of Shit lifted from other Shit to make this Shit plus 11.
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Nov. 7, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST
That's as good a "blessing" as you're going to get from Cameron
by quadrupletree
"et's all keep our fingers crossed that it's not a steaming pile." Indeed.
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No audio- PC is fucked up! but from what I can see. I'd say you got the bullshit Evil is tall crap ala Rob Zombie. 8 foot tall Terminators!?!?!?! Dude didn't they need dogs to find them. Why bulky 8 feet??? Aren't they trying to make them blend in. The Christine/Duel Terminators- Killer Motorcycles and Cars, and then the Tremor Terminators. The sand worms. All I see is lots of of Shit lifted from other Shit to make this Shit plus 11.
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...you visit a website regularly where people make fucking binary jokes. Sweet fucking lord.
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...doubtful they'd be used for 'dragging people away' but more for standard reconnaissance work and 'hit and run' attacks. Basically, if some metal-spidery appendages pop off the bike and scoop people up...it will be stupid (the physics alone begins to kill my cinematic suspension of disbelief). If they zip through an resistance encampment taking people out with pin-point accuracy phase-plasma rifles at 110mph, it could be 100% pure ass kickery.<p>I do like the 600's a lot ("The 600 series had rubber skin...we spotted them easily") and I really like the Harvesters. Basically all good designs but if they use them stupidly then it's for naught.<p>Directors dumbass name or not...I hope this stomps proverbial ass.
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eerrrr.........the footage is still there.
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After watching that, I am now looking forward to a McG movie. Even typing that sentence out doesn't alleviate the disorientation and mild headache. Hopefully he can pull it off, because that footage looks fucking sick.
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Nov. 7, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST
I have to admit, but I don't want to; it looks cool.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
McG has me fooled for the time being. That's a great marketing pitch.<p> So this is another Prequel Trilogy.
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Were they too scared to send it him or something?? What is it with these people???? At one time he would have been willing to be involved with Alien 5 along with Ridley Scott but both of them were fucking shunned in favour of the shit AvP series. Does anyone in the business have a single brain cell left??
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Nov. 7, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST
This looks a lot better than the first 3 films....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...honestly, it looks far more interesting. And I dig the photography so far.
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Worthington is. But then I've always felt there are no celebrities in Australia. I don't mean that in a bad way (for the most part) but that it's like the celebrities here are so down-to-earth you could have a beer with one and not recognise them. That and being an actor here seems to give you as much celebrity as being part of the crew - ie. bugger all. Nah, you gotta go overseas and be a Hugh Jackman or Kylie Minogue (although even she's pushing it now) to be a proper famous Australian celebrity in Australia.
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hells yeah James
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a world class director has to be pulled in to comment on something he isn't working on or has seen anything of. I think the best way to judge a movie is to see it when it's released, not through heresay comments on sites such as this one. Even if the site is trying to be as fair as possible.
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Because they don't give a rats ass about Cameron's opinion. This is their shitfest and if it's successful they want to have full credit without IRONJIM getting any of it! I hope this film flops because I already tilted my shit o meter!
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Nov. 7, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST
Sam Worthington is also gonne be Perseus...
by TheBoManKicksAssAndTakesBlame
In the Clash Of The Titans remake. They better make it good!
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It seems the links are gone and the embeds are gone but you can still access the webpage if you copy and paste the URL into your browser: http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/terminator-salvation/featurette-the-art-of-martin-laing seems cooler than i would have though...
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Why the FUCK are they wasting King Camerons time with BULLSHIT "blessing" questions, when they should be asking about AVATAR! Give me some rumour, innuendo or heresay! Please! Cameron obviously rules with an iron fist and will cock-punch anyone who gives anything away! Wheres Kirsten Dunst when we need her!?
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That whole statement was a total bitchslap disguised as a compliment.
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I personally think McG will hit it big time with Terminator Salvation. What is going to be ironic if, in 2009, Avatar flops and Terminator Salvation makes a killing at the box office. Now, there are two premonitions for you guys. Remember, you read it here first.
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Dude that shit was funny!!!! I'm surprised you didn't get a reaction. That just made me laugh my ass off. Thanks dude. the TFD-5000, hahaha!
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you just saw a youtube video, how the fuck can you tell "how it looks"? unless youtube has a new "watch in 32mm quality" feature, everyone STFU.
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Seriously, he must be a really rad dude.
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and probably wasn't able to seend the script because Nolan was retooling it.
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For the most part it looks like Transformers meets Reign of Fire, and not in a good way either. The giant Terminators with human skin make me laugh; seriously, what was SkyNet thinking. The motorcycle Terminators are a retard concept and seem to be typical McG.
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I wanna see this, pissed that I didn't catch it before it was taken down...
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This has to be fake.
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and I thought only douche bags like Ryan Seacrest said stuff like that?
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That exact thought crossed my mind.
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Terminator is a universe still rife for good storytelling. I hope McG is up to the challenge.
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The master has spoken! And I have to say I give a shit about a new Terminator movie. For me the franchise ended with the second one. Everything was said then. I don't need new movies.
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I thought that was the guy who played Jimmy Olsen in Superman Returns. Who the hell am I thinking of?
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Why you wasting my time with shit links with spaces in them?
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The minute you leave, something cool gets posted and then taken down. I saw the footage, and I was actually shocked at how much stuff I was seeing for the first time in a "behind the scenes" context instead of a slick trailer. Anyway, the rest of you, keep your eyeballs glued to Harry's site 24/7. You can sleep when your dead.
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Sam Worthington's international recognition so far has been that Cameron hired him- a relative unknown- for the main role in 'Avatar'. So he's more of a "next big thing". His biggest film in Australia is probably 'Somersault' and he is known for the TV series 'Love My Way' as well. <P> Sam HUNTINGton was Jimmy Olsen in 'Superman Returns'.
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Not to say that he's necessarily a household name in Australia a la Hugh Jackman- yet. (It depends on the success of his international films as well.)
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I love Sam Worthington, and trust me, he is the next big thing!!! The guy is brilliant!!! I'm writing a super hero script, if I could pick anybody to play the character, he'd be the best choice!!!
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was from Austria. <p> That's how they cast in Hollyweird. <p> The msg above is not based on truth, so far as I know on a Friday night.
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Nov. 7, 2008, 10:20 p.m. CST
Sam Worthington has been awful in everything I've seen him in.
by benito
But then I've only seen him in Australian movies, which tend to be terrible. That and Harts War, where someone else had to dub in his dialogue on account of his performance. I'm curious to see how he is in a film directed by someone with competence though, and am prepared to be pleasantly surprised by his work in Avatar. Cameron certainly fought hard to get to use him so that's encouraging. Check him out as the lead in the recent Aussie version of Macbeth though. He and it are unwatchable.
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It makes sense why they never sent James Cameron the script. You just know that he would send back a crapload of notes. And that would put McG and Co. in a bad position. If they ignore the notes, it means really bad press. But to change things based on them would likely mean changing the entire film --- something they probably aren't prepared to do. Face it: we'll probably end up with a good action flick, but probably not something that feels like it belongs in the T1/T2 universe, or something that was created by Jim Cameron. Timmer33 out.
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lots 0' 'splosions<p> McG McDirector!<p> Mc'nuf McSaid
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Save The World
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look carefully.
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i want to see raw Terminator action. not too slick. Like most of the other clips though.
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im afraid, yet some hope.
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you watch the number of TalkBackers who start magically musing that McG should've done the last Superman film. Hey, I was fine with either him or Bay doing it as long as it wasn't that krap JJ Abrams script. Of course what we ended up with was far worse.
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Looked good...until: "Come with me if you wanna live." Christ, Jesus. Why? We get it. It's a new terminator movie. But some random dude doesn't need to say lines for a fucking elbow rib reaction shot. We get it already without that! It's just like "I've got a bad feeling about this" in Star Wars. Once 18 different people over the course of something like 70 years have said it, it just really becomes juvenile. Otherwise, I really like what I see here, but they need to cut that line and they need to stop calling this dude McG. It sounded even more rediculous having a grown man say it while talking about somebody. WTF!
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http://www.dumbdrum.com/terminator-salvation-featurette-the-art-of-martin-laing/<br> <br> Enjoy guys, I did, the movie looks like it really could be very good indeed
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Damn You Michael Bay
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The looks fucking stupid. The only thing that looks cool was the t-600 but thats going to end up sucking because its PG-13
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"come with me if you want to live" ? He/she? looked like teen John O'conner. :/ I'm probably just tired.
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is in the toilet. And only Jim Cameron can get it back out.
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Edward Furlong.
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Guess where my money is?
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didnt kyle reese say they noticed the 600 series because they had rubber skin??what ,he didnt notice they were fucking 8 foot tall?doesnt make sense.
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by the way the kid who says,come with me line is meant to be kyle reese.
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How does Camerons ball sack taste?
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Or does James Cameron come over as the arrogant cock in this story?
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Movie is looking more and more awesome - I stuck up for McG from the get go because I have the maturity to look past someone's name. But this whole L.A. Fagiola shit he pulled where he made the pretend "I care" phone call - which was really just publicity courtesy bullshit - to Cameron, promised him something, then flaked, is flying in the face of everything he pretends to stand for. Seriously McG? You said you'd send him the script then didn't? I would pay every cent in my bank account (which isn't much, I admit) for notes on one page of one of my scripts from James Cameron. And you have the chance to get notes from the CREATOR OF THE FRANCHISE OF THE MOVIE YOU'RE MAKING????? Who the fuck's wild idea was it to ignore that shit?? Very disappointing. I'll still see your movie, but you dropped half a ladder on the respect-o-meter with that bullshit move.
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But the rule of thumb is, you're allowed to be an arrogant prick when you're a genius.
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Sounds like a back-handed compliment to me. Of course, Iron Jim said he liked T3 as well, and AVP, but I reckon he was just being polite. I've seen footage of him denouncing AVP after the fact. So I guess he's just hedging his bets. oh, dear, Jim, why did you have to get married to Linda Hamilton and lose the terminator rights in the subsequent divorce settlement? if not we would have seen a Cameron T3, and none of this subsequent crap. McG is indeed a fly on the mountain of dung that is the majority of modern genre filmmaking. Mr. Cameron please get the finger out and show us some footage of Avatar forthwith, to wash away the bad taste of this travesty-in-waiting!
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The T600 in The Sarah Connor Chronicles was much closer to the mark. The implication in the first Terminator film is that the T600 was a prototype attempt at an infiltration unit, so you'd think they were roughly the average size of a human being for starters.
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the first things which bothered me were from the teaser. That huge t-01 "hiding" underwater. How in the fuck is that 11 ft tall 10 ft wide robot submerged in waist deep water in a sewer...why does it wait to jump out at such an opportune time to "scare" everyone...musn't they have had to walk on top of it heading in that direction? Did its robot programming tell itself to go into a sewer and wait for humans...and hide? It's a fucking tank precticly. Rediculous. Terminator Motorcycles? wtf is this shit...dumbest idea ever. This isn't transformers you douche bag. 8 ft tall "infiltrator" bots with massive guns...oooh yeah very good for infiltrating unoticed...if you're gonna go all stupid with the original idea of the t-600 at least get proper sound design for the minigun! and if i see more then 1 crushed skull in this film i swear to god i'll infiltrate McG's office and punch him in his McChin.. come with me if you want to live. UGH!!! ACTION! - stare at the hydro bot (hydro for fuck sakes)...good keep staring...move closer....cloooser....and ACTIVATE BLADE MOUTH! BALE JUMP BACK! AH! resistance fighters stuggle!! imagine it waving around...more MORE!!! and then power it down...CUT! wonderful...you really sold me on your curiosity bale... sigh, very original. if its PG13 god help us all. I'll give props to the composition and general aesthetic of the limited footage we've seen...but have to hold that critique for when its in context really. Seems a tad unfinished too and inconsistent...specifically the truck and motorbike shots. but its probably in ILMs pipeline atm. Anywaysss....needs more cameron...can't believe he didn't read the script either. way to fuck up a goddam golden opp. end rant. pls prove me wrong McG by making it realistic and visceral...hopefully i'll care for the characters too...that would be nice.
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yeah the t600 to me was meant to be similar to a t800 only with rubber skin,i dont get the 8ft tall thing.why even bother with skin it dont look human anyway.looks like they got it very wrong.
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NOT be an official release?
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http://rapidshare.com/files/161480414/T4_Art.mp4.html
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doesn't add up it Terminator movie. And i hate the TermBikes! (too fast, too slick, too Transformers/Matrix)
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wouldn't mind it if it was part of the movie.
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Nov. 8, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST
Star Wars and Lord of the Rings = pinnacles of Prod Design
by most excellent ninja
those are movies bathed in concept art and design, it's exciting just thinking about the process for major movies like that.
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Old link broken. New one here: http://tinyurl.com/58a8zz
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I mean according to IMDB Jonathan Nolan is a writer on this script, and by my count he has one hell of a track record. That alone gets me wicked excited for this one.
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http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/081107k.php " A few online fanboys have been disappointed by reports from the test screening of the changed ending. Specifically a key moment in the graphic novel revolves around the disastrous repercussions of a 'giant alien squid' being teleported into New York City, an event that is changed in the movie (there's still a disaster but no squid). Snyder says "The fans, god love 'em, they're all up in arms about the squid. What they should be up in arms about are things like shooting the pregnant woman, 'God is real and he's American', whether THAT's in the movie. That's my point of view, maybe I'm crazy." He does admit that the ending scenes with the main characters remain, as does the 'moral imperative' of the comic's ending. What about talk he did some 'squid' stuff in pre-production? "Well... I don't want to say yes or no (laughs). The squid was not in the movie when I got the script, the squid was never in any draft that I saw. My point is only that there was this elegant solution to the squid problem that I kind of embraced. I'm a fan of the thing as much as anyone, I was saying what are we going to do about this before I even read the script." Was that solution multiple atomic explosions as some have said? "I won't say exactly but... Dr. Manhattan has a certain energy signature, it's clearly his thing...so you know." He also shot down reports of multiple endings - they only filmed the one. "
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ohh well. There goes the fanboy love for Zack Snyder, and the squid is a major thing. Putting the blame on Dr Manhattan doesn't really make sense. Doesn't have that idea that humanity would only unite against an external threat and no it isn't Dr Manhattan is suddenly a god now and not human.
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and it'll look like the t-1000 in my toilet
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Seriously, he's not all that. Who cares what he thinks about someone elses movie?
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"Seriously, he's not all that. Who cares what he thinks about someone elses movie" No offense, but that statement is offensive on so many levels.
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Nov. 8, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST
PURE FUCKING ARROGANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Illuminate
Let me get this straight, McG didn't send James Cameron. Either McG or Jonathan Nolan are on a high horse and think that they can make this film without the original creators input. The number one box office Director's opinion who's movie still kicked the shit out of the Dark Knight at the box office. It is still number 2 and it would not have made as much without the passing of the Great Heath Ledger. Even though Cameron was going to give his unpaid opinion it is still James Cameron and he would have given those jackasses more input and connection to things he didn't explain in the previous films to better connect part 4. Plus, Cameron never does anything half ass even if he is not getting paid. Let me put it another way, if I am a fucking painter and Micheal Angelo comes back to life and offers me advice on paint than I am going to fucking take it. What a bunch of dumb jackasses. First that bullshit pg-13 and now this. If this film fails they have no one to blame but themselves. Christian Bale has box office but, that will not guarantee that that film makes as much as T-2.
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The niteowl suit has owl-nipples
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Give him some bitches, gold teeth and an attitude and he'd be number one on the charts.
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If I knew him personally id probably hate his guts, and for good reason. But that doesnt discount the fact that he is probably among the 5 greatest directors of all time. I mean who is more of an asshole? A prick who gives his absolute all who goes out of his way to earn my $8.50 like cameron, or a guy like Paul Anderson who serves up shit after shit to unsuspecting audiences while enriching himself in the process
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I posted this on the previous T4/Cameron talkback, it still holds up... "From what i can tell, Jim Cameron doesn't have any interest in the terminator franchise anymore. He's moved on and left it to the talentless circle jerkers to exploit his original work for all the coin they can get. If you read his quote he says he hasn't read the script. And just like everyone else, he has no idea if its going to be any good or not. I for one cannot fucking wait until Avatar hits. I've been waiting 11 years for new Cameron. Only one more to go! He's a legend. And for those who think he's an arrogant cock... thats what you get when you stick to your fucking guns and put your vision on the screen. If you don't take shit, people think you're an asshole. I'd rather watch a masterwork by an complete asshole, than a steaming load of shit by a pandering pussy like McG."
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Honestly, I'm as big a fan of the comic as anyone... the giant squid isn't that fucking important. The hilarious thing is you people are gonna let the thing not being in there ruin the entire experience for you. There was no Tom Bombadil in LoTR, there's no giant sq
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so what are you saying, Titanic is better than Dark Knight? Shame on you!
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Christian Bale. Also on the T-600 being too big for posing as a human? "this isnt the future my mother warned me about". Done.
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...Offshoot of the Edgerton clan, who themselves are everything that is wrong with the Australian film industry. But then I saw him in Rouge, and hes actually pretty charismatic and believeable as a mans man. Strange.
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Tom Bombadil isn't essential in any way to the journey of Frodo. The Squid is, it's relevant to the plot, to the actual ending, to the moral dillemma between Ozy and Dr Manhattan, to the comics commentary of four colored monsters. dumb fuck.
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Kyle Reese talked about the 600s being tricky from a distance, but easily spotted up close. T600 being big fits in fine with this line, thus there is no problem with it.
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This film looks cool so far! The Terminatorcycles are awesome looking. I hope the storyline is good, I'm with Jim on that, though I'm far from the arrogant cunt he has become. As for Sam and the Edgerton's, what's your beef? Joel and Nash are just a couple of cool guys who live near me and are finally getting to do what they always wanted to do, pissfart about in front and behind the camera. They're living the dream. And from what I hear Sam Worthington is a decent all around good guy. Pick your targets WNB.
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tricky from a distance? like what 2 kms? retarded. What about the underwater sewer tank and the termbikes? kinda lame no? Cameron writes character amazingly well...even supporting characters are interesting and you actually care what happens to them. (think vasquez and gorman...now we get common and moon bloodgood trying to play resistance fighters.) He takes his time developing interesting personalities to fit into a story not the other way around. Concept and production design? as important as that is McG better just get the fuckin characters working. Sam worthington was good in that crocidile movie...uhh whats it...Rogue
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coz I don't think anyone ever criticised McG for having films that LOOK crap - I'm sure this film will LOOK pretty fuckin fantastic, but I *STILL* can't say whether or not it will... to coin a phrase... be a steaming pile
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I mean, TITANIC is peppered with so many brilliant, memorable bits of dialogue.
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Ehh, and after only a half a glass of wine too. Poor show RM poor show.
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I'm over remakes and sequels.
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Fuck Yeah! Nothing else matters!
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They positively NEED to remove the skull being crushed underfoot scene and the little boy saying "Come with me if you want to live". These little nods are rampant and seriously distracting in these kind of movies. Let the movie speak for itself.
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Nov. 9, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST
Nothing like a 54 year old multi millionaire saying "diss"
by JackRabbitSlim
Nothing quite like AARP members trying to stay with it - what's next Jimmy - going to drop some Hell Rell references on us? And wait a sec - did i just see a "one of 5 greatest directors of all time"? Oh yeah - hes about to knock David Lean out of the vaunted five - no, I don't fucking think so.
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The ONLY reason that Cameron has his "artistic vision" (seriously - has their ever been a more pretentious phrase - EVER?) is because his films all raked in a "bailout of AIG" level of bank. Vincent Gallo stuck to his "artistic vision" until Brown Bunny shit the bed. Newsflash - an asshole is still an ASSHOLE no matter how much artistic vision it has.
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But to have an artistic vision, one has to be an actual artist in the first place. Vincent Gallo is a whiny puss. C'mon. Before complaining about *The Brown Bunny*, you should take into account that *Buffalo 66* or whatever that prior film of his was sucked too (no pun intended). The only artistic value that guy has is in his ability to con "investors" into giving him money to make his crappy films. Congrats to him because even Uwe Boll couldn't do that without German tax breaks. Then again, Uwe hasn't had Chloe What's-Her-Name blowing him on camera though. Although Boll is a fearless mofo with his cracking those Nazi gold jokes; obviously he doesn't care about offending the 10 people that will actually rent *Postal*.
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is Kyle Reese's dainty little bangs popping out of his Tiny Tim hat. Awwww. Also, has many above have mentioned they better have a damn good reason for the T600 being ten feet tall. It looks kind of ridiculous and logically is on par with a direct to VHS movie by Charles Band.
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And remember when trailers and scoops actually REMAINED on AICN without Harry shitting his pants when a studio executive called him, too afraid to lose his freebies and cameos?
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Yeah, the good old days before this place sold out and became "The Man". Back when they broke stories instead of killing potentially god films at script stage. No one can tell be that if they put the scripts of Cigarette Burns / Pro-Life / Ghost Town next to JJ Abrams Superman Flyby script that they wouldn't be able to tell which one was written by a professional writer and which were written by an amateur. Really.
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Arrgh, wine last night, sugar rush from a Bounty just now. Never my fault. ;)
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Me thinks some of you forget that the guy directing this has not made one single good movie. The Production design looks way too slick for a Terminator movie...too polished. Better fit for a Matrix or Michael Bay movie....ah fuck it...everything is gonna be remade and fucked over with before I die. MIGHT AS WELL ENJOY THE RIDE!!!!!! WOOOOO!!!!
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Nov. 10, 2008, 5:19 a.m. CST
Jim said he liked T3 and it WAS a steaming pile, (until Uncanny
by Regicidal_Maniac
The man gave us two incredible Terminator films and then he was done with it, unfortunately there was a third, which sucked (until Uncanny Antman's edit made it enjoyable and watchable at least.) Anyway Terminator 4 looks to be Salvation at last. As Brian said, sit back and enjoy the ride. WOOOOOO!
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...if one is going to judge based on past performance, McG's oeuvre, so to speak, does not inspire confidence. We Are Marshall was an okay movie, but in the 1980's it would have been a Movie of the Week on a network channel. Then again, James Cameron came out of nowhere to direct the first Terminator flick, so you never know. I guess it still all comes down to the quality of the screenplay that McG shot.
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