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UNIVERSAL SOLDIER 3 Moving Ahead!! Peter Hyams Shooting But Not Directing?? Van Damme Is In!! Dolph Has 'No Value'!?!?
Merrick here...
Van Damme, currently in the midst of significant re-invention via films like JCVD and FULL LOVE, is apparently not ready to give up his roots entirely.
In an interview with MTV, he revealed more details about the oft-mentioned UNIVERSAL SOLDIER 3 project (which may or may not be a theatrical film). He's in it, sorta. He's shooting for 10 days...which won't make for too big a role.
However Dolph Lundgren, with whom he co-starred in the original Emmerich & Devlin UNIVERSAL SOLDIER film, won't be returning, per The Powers That Be.
“I told them, guys bring in Dolph! They said there’s no more value [to cast him]. I said, ‘it will have value with me!’”
..Van Damme told MTV in THIS INTERVIEW.
"No value to cast him"!?!? That's kinda fucked up.
Van Damme also confirmed rumors that Peter Hyams, who directed Jean-Claude in TIMECOP and SUDDEN DEATH, will serve as DP on the project for US3 director Simon Fellows (UNTIL DEATH, SECOND IN COMMAND). To the best of my knowledge, this will be the first time Hyams (who traditionally shoots his own films) has DPed for a film he did not also direct.
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That's sad!
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That's right, I used three exclamation points! They're robbing us of our culture, people!
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is working for Simon Fellows? How the mighty have fallen...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_0kKACp11Y
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Where is the sequel to that ??!!!
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Dolph deserves better. Just saying.
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Nov 05, 2008 6:20:55 PM CST
You do realize Van Damme said he WANTED Dolph in this?
by iamjack'suserid
From your wording, it looks like you're saying that the whole "no value" thing is something Van Damme implied.
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Or did I make that up? I don't think so. Regardless, yeah, if he's shooting someone else's movie, that's kind of odd.
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He's always his own DP. This is the first time he's been DP for a movie he wasn't personally directing (as far as I know),
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Seriously I have a memory of watching Universal Soldier 2 on TV then seeing no 3 the next week. Anyway WTF I love Dolph at least as good as Jean - they should bring in Grace Jones so that they have three soldiers for the third movie.
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At least sequels are the next logical step in the storytelling process. But the universe of a prequel can't logically spring into being AFTER the original.
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this would actually be part 5. i realize the canadian sequels are terrible pieces of shit but i doubt its coincidence that "The Return" didnt contain a 4. anyway....why the hell would Dolph return? didnt he die? wasnt he like pulverized into little pieces or something?
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Could just be Van Damme talking out of his ass to drum up support. Certainly wouldn't be the first time someone has done such a thing.
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....and I will tell everyone I know NOT to see this because they told Dolph (baddest motherfucker alive) to fuck himself.
You know what you get when you make a Universal Soldier with just Van Damme and no Dolph? UNIVERSAL SOLDIER 2: THE RETURN. Yeah.....FUCK OFF and give Dolph a call and apologize. -
True-- he could be pulling a Sleazy Favreau on us.
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...he shoots his films dangerously dark. I like that.
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Nov 05, 2008 6:56:56 PM CST
Whoever the fuck said "No Dolph" should be fucking castrated
by stuntcock mike
with a soldering iron. Whatever genitals remain should be fed to Dolph's dogs. Now, bring on Command Performance RIGHT FUCKING NOW!
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Nov 05, 2008 6:58:52 PM CST
Was Ice Cube in Universal Soldier 2? That's why I missed it!!!
by jugdish
Lemme guess- splits by Vandamme - followed by a roundhouse...the end
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OLEG is not pleased. I can feel it.
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they are idiots.
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Ok. Well anyway, guys like Jean Claude Van Damme, Steven Segal and all the other douchebags who got away with convincing the rest of us that they were martial arts action heroes need to accept that they were made irrelevant the instant the Hong Kong action heroes made it to America.
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Sure, it looks like a made for cable flick, but it has one hell of a body count to it. It is a great B flick.
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But whatever. That said, I'm glad Van Damme tried to get him in it.
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They really don't care about what we think after all do they?
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Dolph Lundgren wins lengthy battle over fame
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He was chopped into a billion tiny pieces in the first one.
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He's fine though. Just needs a change of clothes.
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or even Ally Walker or Kiana Tom? hell, at least bring back Zeus or Gary Busey!
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Nov 05, 2008 8:58:02 PM CST
The OLEG brotherhood needs to chime in on this as well
by stuntcock mike
'cause this news sucks balls.
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What a comedown for both Dolph Lundgren and Peter Hyams. I can't the producers regarding Hyams though; anybody actually try to watch A SOUND OF THUNDER? I tried watching it on cable once and had to restrain myself from clawing my eyes out.
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'I can't *blame* the producers regarding Hyams...'
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Nov 05, 2008 9:42:42 PM CST
Peter Hyams hasn't made a competent movie since The Relic
by nasty in the pasty
And that was ELEVEN YEARS ago.
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Dolph is fucking better than UNIVERSAL SOLDIER 3 anyway, though a Van Damme/Lundgren reunion would totally rock the shit.
Anyway fuck you, powers that be. -
they could bring him back, but seriously, he would not be passable as a human if he was in this. He'd be all sewn together. Oh, wait. That would kind of be badass.
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yes there was a Universal Soldier 2 and even a Part 3. but as i mentioned earlier, they were shitty canadian DTV movies. Part 2 went even as far as to redo the last few minutes of the first movie. i'm sure they're not available much outside canada so The Return is probably considered 2 hence why this new one would be part 3 but yeah....its still wrong on so many levels.
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but I dug Sound of Thunder. I know the CGI was pretty corny, but that's what gave the movie this kind of odd charm. Hyams is also a superb DP and this movie looked pretty damn great. Very dark.
I think that Hyams really was a very underrated director in his prime. For a while he was going from a solid movie to a solid movie non-stop. Capricorn One, 2010 (which is a pretty awesome film on its own apart from 2001), Outland (one of Connery's best films), The Star Chamber, Timecop, Narrow Margin. And lets not forget one of the best buddy action/comedies of all time - Running Scared. This is a movie that just keeps getting better with age. It's crammed with hilarious one-liners, has terrific action sequences and features the best performances of Gregory Hines and Billy Crustal's careers. I can quote this movie all day long. "Hey, you shot my partner!" "Takes it easy, you're upsetting the prisoners." "Why should THEY be upset you didn't shoot THEM!!!" -
...Dolph is retired from acting. Supposedly had a bad experience making his last film. He might have said no to them and they are just spinning it. On the other hand if Mr. Hyams is attached, and the paycheck is good, why say no?
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Seriously, Dolph is important to those of us who might actually care to see it -- ESPECIALLY if it is a straight-to-DVD release. I'm a fan of the original and I'd want to see them both in it. That is what made the movie special. It wasn't the story. It wasn't just JCVD. It was watching JCVD vs. Ivan Drago. And today, I still want to see them duke it out or pair up.
Either way, if they don't bring back Dolph, the jokers behind this movie are making a big error. If you are going to make a movie that needs to appeal to the fanboys, do it the f*ck right. What a way to kill the excitement about this movie. -
Hyams gets a lifetime pass from me for these 2 early 80's movies that had no CGI and used real sets. I love the early 80's. Oh and the Relic sucks.
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Outland and 2010. Outland is unbelievably atmospheric and is photographed on the level of Alien and Blade Runner. In fact, I'll go as far as to say that Cameron got the majority of the look of Aliens from Outland. The whole blue-collar workers in space (albeit started in Alien) was clearly a big influence on Cameron in Aliens. And Connery is just magnetic. Probably his most sublte and underrated performance ever. His moments of silence (especially towards the end) have more to say than pages of dialogue. But Hyams clearly deserves a lions' share of credit for the movie. And 2010, if it wasn't related to 2001, would probably be considered one of the best sci-fi's of last 20-30 years. It has a brilliant cast (Scheider has never been better), has special effects (NO CGI you fuckers) that STILL hold up to this day, and is very very smart and respectful of science. Again, Hyams deserves tons of credit for this. Now, The Relic is not a great movie, but the monster is pretty cool and there are some truly scary moments, like seeing Tom Sizemore clean and sober :-) But I can't quite put my finger on what happened to Hyams of late. he did what he could for End of Days, and there are some effective scenes in the film, but it just didn't work. I didn't even bother seening the The Musketeer. Remember the one with John Ritter, Stay Tuned? Again, a few funny bits, but WTF? The Presidio is ok, with some pretty effective action scenes (and Connery in fine form again.) But the guy is clearly way more talented and competent to have this much of a drop in quality work. I wonder what happened. Interesting trivia, but, apparently, Hyams is pretty close friends with Cameron, and Cameron is the one who got Hyams the gig directing End of Days when Arnold was looking for a director.
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aka Universal Soldier 2 (but really 4) was Van Damme's last theatrical film in the states. It was the final straw that resulted in all his subsequent films going DTV. So it's kind of amusing that a 3rd one will be a part of his attempted comeback.And instead of Dolph, the Return had Goldberg and Michael Jai White. It was fucking terrible in every sense of the word.
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Luc Deveraux joins a U.S. team of Uni-Soldiers secretly held in deep storage. Their mission: retake Chernobyl and disable explosives that will unleash radioactive clouds. Luc discovers that one of the reactivated UniSoldiers is a clone of his old Sergeant, Andrew Scott.
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Nov 06, 2008 12:26:26 AM CST
Watch that YouTube trailer and you've seen the movie....
by burnhollywood
No kidding. You will now live a fuller, happier life with an extra ninety minutes in it.
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I did a photoshoot here in LA of this guy's drum set for a music company. The guy happened to be the young kid/star of The Last Starfighter which i thought was cool. But what was more interesting was that, he told me, his uncle-in-law was Peter Hyams. I said
"holy shit i love Peter Hyams!" and dude was like "how the fuck do you even know who Peter Hyams is?". Clearly he underestimated my geek credentials. Sorry for the lame story but if i was ever going to tell it, it was here in this talkback. -
Just like Universal Soldier 2,3,and The Return. I agree with the "I Come In Peace" love though. Great little movie.
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nuff said
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IMDB (yeah, I know) shows Hyams is currently directing / DP / screenwriting a Michael Douglas movie, a remake of the minor noir classic BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Hopefully he can pull off a good movie here - from PEEPER through to THE RELIC he had a solid 20 year run of geek-friendly movies, and he's got the best eye for lighting in the business.
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"it really works - the windows are bullet proof!"
"thank you ACE!"
"the windows won't roll down!"
"fuck you ACE!"
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Universal Soldier was a great movie... when I last saw it! Which was about 15 years ago! The Relic was the last Hyams movie I remember really liking, but I haven't seen that in 10 years either. If I remember correctly half of the film was pitch black and only lighted with torches, and swat guys were getting chomped in half by the beast. A revisit of both films may be in order!
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No Dolph= me not watching.
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BLOWS like Hurricane Katrina. What a steaming pile of horse poo. But still No Dolph= me not watching it.
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"We got the flash from the coroner on the cause of death on the jumper." "Oh, let me guess...deceleration trauma?" "Err, cement poisoning?" or "Would get in the car MR. BACKUP!?!??!"
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"Should we tell the sphincter twins?" "You wanna get shot again?"
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It's true, I read it in PLAYBOY ten years ago, and at the time he was already talking about getting out of the biz. The guy is pretty smart, and has options not available to your typical actor.
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was a good movie, probably one of JCVD's best.
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...about Van Damme and Lundgren. How about bringing back Ralf Moeller!?!? Where's the love?
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Dolph has value, especially to him. US2 like Highlander 2 does not exist. US3 with Dolph would be the real sequel. They just take a chunk of the body, clone it, and voila, new OLEG soldier to battle JCVD.
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given an honorary membership in the OLEG club. He tells it like it is.
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"I'm getting too old for this shit!" >>Jumping, explosion, running, another explosion<<<
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apart from Double Impact. Sudden Death was his best by far. I think after Blood sport and some earlier movies, it just seemed along time for he made some worthy big screen movies. I'm sure theirs a big movie out there for him. He deserves a break.
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tee hee!
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Dolph Lundgren IS the epitome of the 80's Action Movies. Stallone, Arnold, Van Damme, and Seagal should all bow to this man's greatness. Red Scorpion, I Come in Piece, Showdown in Little Tokyo, the Punisher, Masters of the Universe, and Rocky IV. Van Damme should go back to making classics like Street Fighter or the Quest. He’s such a Belgian douche bag.
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Universal Soldier III: Unfinished Business apparently came out 10 years ago, according to imdb. I remember when Universal Soldier: The Return came out in theaters... and apparently that was part 4. It had WCW's Goldberg and it sucked... I remember there was a building that had the fakest explosion ever at the end.
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Universal Soldier III: Unfinished Business apparently came out 10 years ago, according to imdb. I remember when Universal Soldier: The Return came out in theaters... and apparently that was part 4. It had WCW's Goldberg and it sucked... I remember there was a building that had the fakest explosion ever at the end.
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He's apparently a smart guy; he earned a Master's or Doctorate in Engineering, don't know at which university. If the acting thing doesn't work out, I'm sure he could just go and start a tech business in Silicon Valley.
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3rd Degree blackbelt in Karate. Won the European championship in 1980 and 1981 and a heavyweight tournament in Australia. Holds a Master's Degree in Chemical Engineering. He speaks more than five languages and served as the team leader for the Modern Pentathlon Team for the Atlantic Games. He also dated Grace Jones and remains the only man to do so and not be eaten alive. Dolph is the real deal.
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When I go into a bar, I don't order a white russian, I order an Ivan Drago! (Granted, after a blank stare, I have to explain to the bartender that it's a white russian, but if we all do this, eventually the drink will be known as an Ivan Drago. Think about it. It's change we need.)
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He'd be right at home.
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I find every VanDamme film close to unwatchable. The guy can't act. The films are tedious at best. Dolph Lundgren won't help to make this film better. He's not much in the acting department either.
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Nov 06, 2008 4:19:00 PM CST
GODDAMMIT, THE WHOLE FUCKIN PLATOONS' DROPPING LIKE FLIES!!!
by pissed off and bitter
"WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU STARING AT?!? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE OUT THERE??! DO YA?!! WHEN I'M FIGHTING THIS WAR, I KICK ASS, YOU KISS ASS, AND I'M BUSTING HEADS!! And these SHITHEADS, these yellow-traitoring motherfuckers - they're everywhere. And I, Sargeant Andrew Scott of the U.S. Army. I'm gonna teach them....all....."
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Peter Hyams was once a pretty heavy-hitting director. No more. Peter Yates was once a heavy-hitter. No more. If I was named Peter and a Hollywood director, I'd change my name to something else. Like Steven. Or George. Or James. Or Sly.
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Because the last Universal Soilder with Micheal Jai White was #4?
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Peter Hyams is going to be the DP? So I guess they want a shitty ass DP? Hyams always makes his movies like lights don't exists. I mean the dude is getting pretty old, how can he see in the dark that good?
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WOW.
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Can't wait.
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