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UPDATED!! More Gigantic SNL Ratings!! Plus Learn Who’s On Monday’s Pre-Taped Pre-Election Special!!
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POST-WEEKEND UPDATE:
Saturday’s Affleck-hosted SNL featuring Tina Fey and the real McCains once again outperformed the overwhelming majority of primetime programming last week. If one excludes one episode, it was the most-watched SNL in 14 years. From Monday morning’s Hollywood Reporter :
Saturday night's show was only upstaged in the ratings this year -- and since 1997 -- by the Oct. 18 "SNL" where Palin made an actual appearance. That show, which averaged a 10.7 rating/24 share and eventually more than 13 million viewers, was the highest-rated "SNL" since 1994.
A spy has the dope on Monday night’s primetime SNL election special:
The show is a compilation tonight. There is new material (taped) -- including the real McCain and Palin in new intro's to clip packages.
Also -- there's Amy as Hillary Clinton, some Barack/McCain stuff with Fred and Darrell (who also plays Chris Matthews and Fred Thompson in other taped pieces), Jason as Joe Biden, Kristen Wiig as Nancy Pelosi as well as Will Forte as John Edwards.
ORIGINAL POST:
“Saturday Night Live” mastermind Lorne Michaels says Barack Obama had to bow out of two previous booked appearances this season; he missed a sketch with William Shatner in the season opener because of a hurricane and he missed a subsequent appearance to visit his ailing grandmother.
Obama this week appeared on “Extra” with Mario Lopez, on MSNBC’s “Rachel Maddow Show” and on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show.” So it would be a little weird if he skipped the last SNL before the election.
Word is John McCain will appear on tonight’s episode, but that won’t keep Obama away; the two candidates recently traded post-debate quips at the Al Smith dinner.
Michael Calderone at politico.com says host Ben Affleck has been rehearsing a sketch about MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann:
A source described the skit as “savage,” in portraying Olbermann as a deranged person living at home with his mother. Affleck, said a source, became uneasy with Olbermann in attendance at the 3 p.m., closed-set rehearsal.
"American Idol" winner David Cook is the musical guest.
There’s also an election-eve SNL-branded clip-show special airing Monday in primetime. The ratings for all things SNL have been spectacular this season, spectacular enough to keep the show on the air until the next presidential campaign gears up in two years.
11:30 p.m. Saturday. NBC.
This gets my vote for the most effective campaign ad of the election:
And this just made me laugh:
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Also -- there's Amy as Hillary Clinton, some Barack/McCain stuff with Fred and Darrell (who also plays Chris Matthews and Fred Thompson in other taped pieces), Jason as Joe Biden, Kristen Wiig as Nancy Pelosi as well as Will Forte as John Edwards.
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Why Ben Affleck?
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Is there a Daredevil sequel coming out this week?
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Is it election day yet? Enough with the political humor!
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Phantoms like a motherfucker!Somebody was going to say it.
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I mean, he is buds with Kevin Smith, and I'm sure Affleck could use the exposure. When's the last time he did anything good? Maybe a good performance on SNL will put him back on the radar of producers.
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Sounds like a wonderful idea!
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he hasnt done ANYTHING since Smoking Aces in 2006! he's got a few movies coming up in 2009, but nothing else! wow, he is a hasbeen!
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do you think obama likes anal?
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I guess milf lover you haven't seen "Gone Baby Gone". That was a great movie and Affleck's direction was pitch-perfect. That sonovabitch is bangin' Jennifer Garner, won an Oscar for his writing and has shown himself to be an excellent director. So it's Affleck's a ratbastard not a hasbeen.
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You forgot to mention that he wrote the screenplay for Gone Baby Gone as well MrMajestic.
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Nov 01, 2008 3:58:21 AM CDT
What's the last big hit Affleck had? Don't worry I'll wait.
by orionsangels
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I think if I were married to Jennifer Garner and had a new baby in the last couple of years, I'd want to work less and be with the family a hell of a lot more than being out working all the time. But that's just me. Kudos to you, Ben! See ya in Daredevil 2!!! Maybe.
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he's such a cocky bitch. He thinks he's the reincarnation of Edward R. Murrow. And he's secretly in love with Bill O'Reilly. I just hope him being at the rehearsal doesn't compromise the skit.
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And if Gone, Baby, Gone was any indication, then he certainly has the chops for it. Give him some credit.
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Nov 01, 2008 6:52:43 AM CDT
Obama and McCain should do a skit together, or a song.
by flim springfield
How about "I Want You To Want Me"?
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That's the only song I want to hear Obama and McCain do together.
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Like that running skit they had about Thailand or something, where Ben Affleck was in that guys closet....that shit was hilarious!
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I wouldn't be surprised if the skit devolves into some sort of childish loofah man versus k.o. type thing. maybe keith could get sexually harrased by a young bill-o the clown and they could do some sort of origin story
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I know I'll get made fun of, but that sum bitch can sing! And I support Ben Affleck too!
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Nov 01, 2008 9:34:18 AM CDT
Zombieflicker, you need to listen to some Amon Amarth.
by stereotypical evil archer
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He is a damn good actor, writer and director, but most importantly for tonight, the guy is funny as hell. Just watch any of the extras on a Kevin Smith film to see what I am talking about. The image of him in Clerks 2's blooper reel backing into a door and then getting so pissed he chucks his fast food at a playground comes to mind.
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Zombieflicker, no David's mom is pretty stoked too...
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I need some caffine before I type here...
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With Val Kilmer as Father Karras, Donald Sutherland as Father Merrin, and Zac Efron as Reagan. Such your heart - - - you know this will be great.
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Obama was on "EXTRA"? There's a fumble to exploit, McCain groupies.
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Nov 01, 2008 12:57:58 PM CDT
Wasn't Affleck voted "Sexiest Man Alive" some years ago?
by pizza the hut
Whst a crock of shit that was...
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And it's not really even close.
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Is ripe for a savage takedown. Affleck, if this is as good as it sounds, I'll forgive you for "Armageddon."
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Olbermann on SNL was the most interesting part of that story. I like Olbermann and Maddow. Finger Puppet Theater always kills me.
Olbermann likes going on other shows. He did that follow-up bit on Letterman where he stood back stage in case McBush didn't show up again. Letterman had Biff measure Olbermann's skull with a tape measure because his head looks so freakishly huge.
And what will Olbermann's and Maddow's shows be about after Obama wins? Just listing the conservative lies and atrocities will get old at some point.
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but so is Keith Olbermann. He has the balls to make fun of O'Rielly for blowing up in between filming, but Olbermann has a track record as pretty difficult to work with himself. Both of these guys could be taken down a peg or three.
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So he isn't the best actor and he's made some terrible schlock for a paycheck. I too once despised all that is Affleck. Then I saw Gone Baby, Gone and all that hostility just seemed to float away. I don't think he should ever star in a movie again. But let's face it, the man does a badass cameo (reference every Kevin Smith movie), can be pretty funny and charming (Dogma) and is one helluva Director. I'm not more of a Ben Affleck apologist now. And to be honest, he sits around and laughs at all of his for hating him. He has an OSCAR people. He's banged like all of the hottest chicks in the world, and he didnt have to do it with coke like Ratner, they actually want to bang him. Constantly. I'm just saying that when he's good, he's good. And he has quite a few things to be proud of. I hope he directs again soon.
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Great film - if he never acts again, that would be fine as long as he churns out some good work as a director. Jennifer Garner continues to be MILFy. I'm sure this'll be funny tonight.
What would be great is if Obama and McKKKain had a real dance-off:
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Seriously. Like a chick who decided that she was really a dude in a female body and started taking testosterone to grow facial hair and deepen her voice. Always looks like he's wearing makeup and his face is way too light/white (yeah, I know they do that on TV but it shouldn't be that obvious). The dude has, like, penciled-in eyebrows for pete's sake. CREEPY.
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Crow3711 had it right. My favorite "Cameo" of his was from Boiler Room. Even though that movie was a Glengarry Glen Ross "update", his part in that was awesome. Of course not as good as Alec Baldwins, but great in it's own right.
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You remember, the loudmouth, blowhard propagandist framed in a constant closeup snarling as he froths at the mouth while condemning everyone else. He wasn't actually a good guy in the film and Olbermann fits the archetype, no?
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I have met him several times. He is the nicest guy. He's smart, funny, and is also polite when he really doesn't have to be to fellow employees who work in smaller capacities. Now the real DBag is Scarborough. He is rude and his gym clothes suck something serious. He wears this ugly ass maroon shirt that looks like it came from 1984. And Mika is also a little witch. Haven't met Maddow yet.
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... regardless of what SNL actually airs tonight.
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someone guided me here...im from a far away land, do not be frightened. i shall continue my rant here as requested but i mist say that im in awe, for i never acknowledged the existence of alternate realities until now.
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you know who you are.
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PRESIDENT PALIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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have Obama and Mccain sing Ebony and Ivory. Obamas camp would never let him. McCains camp would fear he'd be pegged a racist somehow...and snl doesn't have the cajones to even ask. And we allllll now that it would be quite possibly the best snl moment ever.
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said Mango
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said Heeneefer Lopez
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"You are black." "You are white." "AND WHO CARES..."
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I half expect Joe Scarborough and Mika Whatshername to start humping at any moment. She's quite the temptress, always with the "fuck me" look in the camera. Look for her on Youporn under "Mature does Pundit".
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You people voting for Obama are f***ing nuts.
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He does a good enough job embarrassing himself on his own show.
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... I know it's really encouraging when your betters look past your psychosis and deal with you like you were an actual human being, but my pooper is marked: "exit only". Kindly apply your twisted affection elsewhere before you get hurt.
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... how exactly are we "nuts" for supporting Obama?
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So, we're still getting excited about SNL? I'm confused...
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i didn't hate that as much as i wanted to.
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I'm laughing hard already - keep it up!
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. . . nah, couldn't have been. HA! I always liked him. Ya know, before he sold his soul in this election cycle.
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I think McCain looked really desperate...
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I hate when they do that.
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how pathetic.
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skit is horrible.
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This View sketch is terrible... not that the View is anything worth parodying since Meredith left.
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...was pretty decent. Not funny, but dead on voice... although he slipped into sounding like Clint Eastwood.
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even a parody of The View sounds like chickens clucking...
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Pretty much all I could think about the whole time McCain was on there was, "Man, he is old."
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I'm kind of loving Affleck's Olbermann impression... and I'm a KO fan.
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Holy CRAP. Either McCain's entire campaign staff had a collective SCANNERS-like head explosion or McCain knows he's toast and is trying to get in a little payback for Palin going all 2012 on him.
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...but those Baldwin and Olbermann "impressions" are absolutely hideous. Good grief...
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is pretty good. I have a huge man crush on Olbermann...5 nights a week.
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Affleck's impersonation of Olbermann is paaaathetic.
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Not saying much granted, but his Olberman is pretty dead on
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this is fucking hilarious.
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I thought it would never end...
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That Olbermann is one for the ages. Well done, Affleck.
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That's the hardest I've laughed all week.
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...that its length alone became hilarious. It reminded me of the deleted scene from Borat in a grocery store where he asks what everything is, and the answer's always cheese. Not that funny at first, but 10 minutes in, you start laughing your ass off. Thus was this sketch.
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And I just died laughing at that "special comment" bit.
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affleck, as always, is completely without merit. this is easily the weakest ep of the season. weak.
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You don't watch enough of the left's answer to Bill O. Oh, fuck. Target lady is next... sigh...
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To be followed by American Health Care System.
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Tina Fey's 'Palin' and the Olbermann sketch all by themselves have made this the best ever season of SNL.
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Olbermann is pompous and blustery, like a left-wing Rush Limbaugh, but he doesn't sound anything like that. Still, kudos to the spinning abruptly around to another camera and throwing the paper wad like a total girl.
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ben afleck sucks ass.
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I loves me some Kristen Wiig... but I hate the Target sketch.
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"uh oh looks like im next, can you handle me?"
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I love his refusal to end any sentence with a preposition
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pompous ass at times but, Afleck's impersonation was not good.
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I'm glad I'm not alone, I thought his Olbermann was AWFUL. It bordered on straight British a few times. Not a terrible skit though.
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That UPS guy character proves it. In other news, my brother will be THRILLED that Afleck is gay....
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GIRAAAAAAAAAAAAAFES!!!
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Giraffes!
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GIRAFFES!! I feel ashamed for laughing at that
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And thank you again, Kevin Smith, for bringing us Ben Affleck. Thank you so, so much.
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I just popped on SNL and saw the giraffes video. Absolutely hilarious and pointless. Wonder if it was Sanberg's creation?
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David Cook? His Sammy Hagar impersonation sucked. And his lyrics weren't funny at all.
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Sad Grandpa!
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there would have been a chance of me actually voting for McCain if it has been 'that' McCain campaigning for the last year.
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this song was good. anyone know where i can watch the opening? i missed it tsk
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yeah, this was just like john mccain, but without all the race-baiting and campaign stunts
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Nov 01, 2008 11:31:59 PM CDT
Ah, okay..."Double Maverick" explains the Rogue Palin approval
by spyguy
Thanks, Senator McCain. You may now resume trying to link a fellow senator to terrorism without there ever being any formal hearings on such a matter.
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OMG - so freaking hilarious!! Rock on SNL!!
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You can always tell when they're towards the end of a stretch of shows... Kenan's screen time goes WAAAY up.
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The GOtcha is pretty effective.
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whatever it is, it's very homophobic.
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They are really missing out if they don't do a fake election ad because at least on my local channel it seems as if every other commercial has been an election ad.
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Okay, that was really funny.
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was when Ben started shaking his head, spazing out. That shit had me in tears.
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Olbermann has been rubbing ratings data in O'Reilly's face all this week, so if Olbermann is pathetic and has no audience, what does that make O'Reilly?
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They skewered Olbermann, that pompous douchebag? They finally realize that Biden is handicapping Obama? Fey (the ice princess) smiled affectionately at McCain at the conclusion of the skit? All of SNL's barbs are routinely predictable (they still canonize Obama); but tonight they were somehow impartial! McCain actually eclipsed Affleck; I'm seriously beginning to like the guy. I enjoy his self-denigration; Obama is a Hollywood machine (the same Hollywood that spawned AMOS & ANDY and other racist entertainment. Hollywood's "new" condescension is borderline racism).
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So why are MSNBC's ratings way up in the 7, 8, and 9pm time periods? Why is it the #2 24 hour news network? Why does it routinely beat FOX in the coveted 18-49 demo? Why is Olbermann's ratings up and gaining on O'Reilly? Say what you will about your personal dislike of the man, but his ratings and the ratings of the network he represents are all on the upswing. While MSNBC may get stupid flack for going to the left, the ratings show that there is an audience out there that agrees with that point of view the same way Fox News' audience is primarily to the right. And add me to the list of people who thought Affleck's impersonation was weak. The sketch went on way too long. It was ridiculous. And I feel that one of the only good news spoofs SNL has done was Hardball back in the day. This shit was lame.
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Go on YouTube (or the official COUNTDOWN website) and check out Cleese's appearance from Friday. It was brilliant.
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Mika is not polite at all. She's a snot. And she thinks she's fucking sexy. Always with jeans on. I love how she has to constantly recalibrate her opinion on things once angry emails come in. She went from defending Palin's 150k wardrobe to talking negatively about the situation 15 mins later.
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I won't say that Olbermann doesn't have his flaws. Especially as we've gotten closer to the election, he's gotten rather worked up over getting a Democrat into office, and sometimes he goes a bit far with 'gotcha' quotes and willfully (I think) misrepresenting innocent stuff.
But...
...Minus some of that stuff, I think he generally does a decent job of calling out various Republicans and whack-job Conservatives (yes, I think those are two distinct groups) like Limbaugh and Coultergeist on some of their more bizarre takes on things.
That said, I thought the Affleck impersonation keyed in perfectly on some of his pompousness and the inflated sense of importance that have begun to seep into his "Special Comments". Back when he did a "Special Comment" when something very big needed discussing, those were kind of effective, but lately, their cropping up more and more and they've kind of lost their effect.
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Yep, look no further than IMdB. Olbermann's pathetic hissy-fits briefly gained an audience (much like Mort Downey, viewers tuned-in to watch a train wreck). But the spectacle is over, the tolerance for Olbermann's ranting is short-lived. Again, check IMdB. I'm retiring now; after years of ragging on the show, I finally enjoyed an episode that spoofed both parties.
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Olbermann "like a left-wing Rush Limbaugh"? Have you fact listened to their respective shows? When has Limbaugh ever been factual about, well, anything? I'll grant you that Olbermann is hyperbolic to extreme, but just try fact-checking both of them and tell me what you conclude.
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Nov 02, 2008 12:35:13 AM CDT
And ratings are all that matters, right, thegreatwhatzit?
by skyway moaters
Do you work for Fox News?
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And yes, I do listen to both their shows, even though Limbaugh has been absolutely ridiculous in his 180-degree support of John McCain since Obama clinched the Democratic nomination. I guess "Operation Chaos" only worked in the short-term.
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Dude I work in ratings research for a network. MSNBC and Olbermann and Maddow's ratings have been steadily growing for the last couple of months. And in key demos they are beating Fox. Fox may claim the overall ratings crown, but MSNBC has overtaken CNN in the ratings and is currently gunning for Fox. You may hate MSNBC but going Left was the smartest thing they have ever done. It was an underserved audience and now that MSNBC is serving them, the ratings are going up. And comparing Limbaugh to Olbermann? Really? Limbaugh yells, talks shit, and is a prescription drug abuser. Olbermann may come off as a bit of a know it all, but when u fact check his shit, you see he's right most of the time.
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I don't care that he came from Idol. The guy is a great singer. And people bitch about the lack of Rock in the era of Lil'Wayne but are quick to shit on any decent rock release. I hope his CD is good. Because his voice is a refreshing change from the whiny nasal emo Fall Out Boy bands who all look and sound the same.
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Funny how facts deflate unsupported opinions.
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The View and the Olbermann were way off the mark... very few laughs for the View although the Whoopie and Elizabeth impressions worked. The Olbermann was WAY long, and was only really close to how he is during the special comments part. I did laugh for the first time ever at a Target Lady sketch... til it died from non-endingitis. And Girraffs, although a straight lift from sloths, was still a laugh...
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that McCain was the funniest part of the show.
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You find out they're not facts. That SNL skit put Countdown in perspective. You get half truths. Half quotes. And Olbermann being in love with himself. So much so NBC news is trying to seperate themselves from MSNBC. He never has a deabte with any guest, cause they all agree with him. And most of the claims he smears others with he's guilty of as well. Just in his mind he's fighting for good. If anyone truely believes Olbermann is fighting a good fight they have the political knowledge of a 13 year-old.
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I hear that even "Sad Grandpa" liked him.
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Nov 02, 2008 1:12:59 AM CDT
why exactly are everyones olbermann sketch comments reading:
by westonian
"I'm a fan of olbermann but they totally skewered him! Lolz "....
So you admit they called him out on being a pompous douche who distorts the facts yet you still like him?
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On ESPN Sports Center.
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Catch his show whenever I can. I've still got 5 minutes to see what SNL did.
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What up man? Still fighting the good fight?
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I sure hope Kristin Wiig never has a seizure. No one will help her because it'll look like the same character she always does on the show.
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the fox noise audience skews old...maddow and ko skew young...and trust me, if participants at obama rallies were screaming the n word, ko would be all over it...wasnt that ko getting down on hillary during the primary season? ya...it was...i will tell you what you wont see on monday...you wont see ko going ballistic over the parody...now, had they done loofa boy, you would see his giant head explode...and will someone please explain to me what happened to victoria jackson? that woman is certifiable
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She even said that these were her husbands thoughts, being filtered through that loufah hole ridden brain of hers. I never thought she was funny... she destroyed any sketch she was in. They wanted her to be a Gracie Allen, which was an insult to Gracie Allen. Today, she sounded like a homeless woman on a drunk.
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No really. It was kinda funny if not a very good impression on Affleck part. But otherwise it was just an exagerrated portrayal of his anger. All it showed him as is being really really angry, and he is admittedly.....so great, and self aggrandizing, which maybe he is but he's not a liar. Seriously though as far as a substantive criticism it has nothing on him.
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No ones brain can habitually ingest that much vicodin without warping permanent damage occuring.
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But when she was standing by Cindy McCain she seemed to be thinking, "Get me the fuck away from this woman." In all fairness, Cindy does have a creepy Stepford botox face going.
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They both obfuscate profusely. They both suck as sources of fact, so I can only judge them on entertainment value, and in that arena Limbaugh wins hands down.
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IN THE WORLD!
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But the SNL sketch was hilarious and I bet Keith loves it.
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i got a repeat on my dvr?
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I must admit "Aflac" held his own last night especially during the opening monologue in which he reveals his "support" for McCain.Speaking of which, the old fucker was actually funny during the opening sketch not that it will sway the voters' decisions, but he did a good job nonetheless.
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What's up hoss? things going well? Ah, Keith Olbermann. You Kenny Main and Dan Patrick you guys WERE Sports Center. That was your peak, to bad you have been reduced to ranting on a dying semi network show. Dan Patrick has that the new crappy sports talk show and I think Kenny Main went into witness protection. You guys, your Sports Center work was sublime.To bad ya'll got run out of Sports Center by the Stewart "Booyah" Scotts of the world, Sports Center isn't as good.
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Or are they such navel-gazing, self-defeatist, no-spine-liberal pansies they would try take a crap on a successful DEMOCRATIC presidential campaign to ' balance the cosmos ' their side ? Repug humorists, I would get, well except from that OTHER white wacko Jackson, but what the FUCK are them Lorne Michaels, Gore ' Slaveowner ' Vidal, and Lynn Rothschild at exactly ?!?!? Nobody needs these dipshits in anybody's life.
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If you are a media pundit, and you voice your honest opinion, you are automatically a fraud ? And while it's common knowledge nowadays ( at least, in the world ) the Right Wing blowhards are usually LIARS most times - which is more like a notion you can only claim now 'coz reality has made that undeniably apparent - Left Wing people can NEVER tell the TRUTH, and ought to be blowhards, too. So, both liberal and conservative talking heads must be EQUALLY liars at all times. That, apparently, is the ' fairness doctrine '. Yeah, I get it.
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...both Affleck and McCain were funny. I see nothing wrong in admitting that.
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Yes, I said defense. You can obviously see a bunch of childish liberals at work, thinking it's funny to make fun of a conservative who's not afraid to talk about her positions to her mostly liberal co-hosts. Well this is probably why we don't see much liberal bashing. Because we conservatives have class and don't resort to that immature shit. Although in some cases, I think we should.
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Why? It's not funny. Having soem one spoof O'reilly, which deserved, wouldn't be funny. What's the angle that adds humor to that asshole? Nah. . . the Oberman skit, especially the cat stuff near the end, was hilarious and a clever take on his style. Go Obama! Two more days!
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of course then the "Don't Blame me,I voted for the other Guy!!!" will start....
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has a really great rack. But I still voted Obama.
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Is exactly what all you liberal bastards think of O'Reilly. It all depends on your worldview, I guess. And if you like Keith Olbermann, it's shit. Way to lap up all that communist drivel in high school and college, boys. I hope Obama wins, cranks up the socialism in the country to an 11, and then we watch as this once great nation burns.
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I'll bash liberals all day. Fuck 'em.
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Fuck anybody who always votes for a Republican and anybody who always votes for a Democrat and think for yourself. Don't get your opinion from a professional blowhards like Olberman or O'Reilly. Pickup a fucking book, read the fucking newspaper and think for yourself.
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as shown by the likes of Colin Powell and Peggy Noonan this election season. The rest of the Republicans aren't recognizable by any meaningful definition of the term Conservatism. Have fun ripping your hair out on the Right. And Slugbat's "bashing" is nothing of the kind - more like whining.
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by abandoning your convicitions and supporting a Democrat? Good to know. Are you making the case, right here, right now, that anyone who votes for McCain is classless? Nice blanket statement, sexyback!!!
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I'm saying that people who scream "Kill him" and call Obama a "terrorist", "socialist" or "baby killer", and those who encourage that hateful vitriol, are classless. You are the perfect example - thanks for chiming in!
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yourselves? SNL, how DARE they make fun of a pompous liberal like Olbermann? Why do you have ZERO sense of humor about your liberal icons? Conservatives have had to put up with constant attacks for years. Looks like you Olby fans can dish it out but can't take it. Why don't you thicken your skin a little, crybabies? SNL has mocked Republicans mercilessly, and it's usually been funny. Just laugh it off. Republicans have been savagely attacked all year long. Sorry they attacked Olby. I didn't see you crying when the focus was almost 80 to 20 attacking McCain/Palin compared to Obama/Biden...
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to the list of classy Conservatives.
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that supposedly someone said it at a McCain/Palin rally? The Secret Service investigated that and they concluded no one actually said that. As far as him being a socialist, he pretty much admitted it. As far as I can tell, no one's ever called him a terrorist, he's just friend's with a pair and lied about it. And the whole baby killer thing, well, what do you call it when he votes against a bill that would stop doctor's from throwing live babies into the garbage to die?
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When was the last time a Dem launched a "Godless" ad against a Republican?
You know why Reps are easy to mock? Because you're all so hypocritical. I'll bet if you weren't so self-contradictory and hypocritical you wouldn't find yourselves the butts of so many jokes. Try it out. -
votes Democrat!!! Are you being serious? Are you trying to make the ridiculously easily refutable point that there HAVEN'T been horrendously classless attacks from the Left? Let me give you a list...
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Nov 02, 2008 9:33:10 AM CST
COUGHLINS IS ABOUT TO GIVE US ANOTHER OF HIS "LISTS"
by bringingsexyback
further demonstrating his utter classlessness.
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Nov 02, 2008 9:34:34 AM CST
PAINTING SUNDAY-SCHOOL TEACHER KAY HAGAN AS "GODLESS"
by bringingsexyback
No class.
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with the welfare of the country in mind ahead of his party affiliation ... very classy!
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while your state's senator just got convicted of taking gifts totaling $250,000 ... not classy.
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Nov 02, 2008 9:42:09 AM CST
ACCUSING YOUR OPPONENT OF PALLING AROUND WITH TERRORISTS
by bringingsexyback
while owing your political career to a couple of Alaska militia-based secessionists who have arsenals buried - literally - in their front lawns ... So not classy.
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SNL decides to mock a democrat once in a while and you get all pissed off? Both sides don't deserve some mockery? I don't get why people think SNL has some sort of obligation to perform insightful political satire. They've never really had any hard hitting commentary in the past. Hartman's and/or Hammond's Clinton was mostly charicature, and Carvey's Bush 1 was just a cartoon chracter/I DO think that maybe at the last minute, the writers decided, "maybe we ARE too one-sided." Though, I don't think they have to have some equal make-fun-of rule. Honestly, it's easier to make fun of McCain and Palin, not necessarily because of their politics, but because Obama's so smooth, he makes far less speaking flubs and really doesn't have many quirks.
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Nov 02, 2008 9:44:53 AM CST
NOT GIVING HALLOWEEN CANDY TO CHILDREN OF OBAMA SUPPORTERS
by bringingsexyback
Not classy!!! They're children!!!
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...not very classy.
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and filing a false police report blaming an Obama supporter?
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Not classy. Oh, wait, that was me.
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If it's a girl - classy.
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10. Sending army of lawyers to Wasilla, Alaska to go dumpster diving for dirt on Palin. 9. Accusing Sarah Palin of being the Grandmother of her daughter with ZERO PROOF to back up such a claim. 8. Accusing John McCain of not knowing how to use email even though the reason he can't type effectively on a keyboard is because of his war injuries. 7. Having a state worker illegally looking through Joe "The Plumber"'s child support records in an effort to dig up dirt on him. 6. Democrats attaking McCain's POW record and saying he was treated like a "Prince", as if that term wasn't used to mock him. Trying to make the case that 5 and a half years in the rat infested Hanoi Hilton was a walk in the park takes balls. 5. To continously call Sarah Palin the mayor of 8,000 while just passing right over the fact that she is currently Governor of a state is disrespecting not only her, but all the people who voted for her and gave he an 80% approval rating. 4. Breaking into Sarah Palin's email sure was classy, wasn't it? 3. Guys like John Murtha saying that Pennslyvania is full of rednecks and wouldn't possibly vote for Obama. I can give you links to at lest a dozen stories where liberals make the point that anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a redneck or a racist, even though the majority of this country very rarely votes for the Democrat in the last 60 years and alot of people are turned off by Obama's policies. It couldn't possibly be that we disagree with Obama, we MUST be racist!!!! 2. The liberals threatening riots and even one threatening a new Civil War if Obama is NOT elected. Really classy this line of thinking. Really says what they think of black people. Either they think they are incapable of NOT rioting, or they are giving them marching orders. (Thank you James Carville and Earica Jong) 1. And the number one classless attack on the Republicans coming from a Democrat is the souless Nicholas Provenzo who actually wrote an opinion piece for some online magazine stating that Sarah Palin is selfish and should have aborted her baby, Trig, because the baby is a "financial burden". When to defend this scumbag? Anyway, there's a bunch of "CLASSLESS" attacks from the left. Have a nice election!!!
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I can cite thousands on the Right. Anyway, gotta go, thanks for playing. Stay classy!
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Obama supporters beating up, vandalizing, or macing McCain supporters. I love how you focus on the one girl who made up a stupid story. We know for a fact that a male Obama supporter beat up a female McCain supporter with her broken sign. And before you get all huffy puffy about Palin having spent $150,000 on wardrobes, I din't see you complaining about the millions of dollars Obama wasted on his Rock Concert/Political Rally in Berlin. This man has spent almost HALF A BILLION DOLLARS ON HIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN, BECAUSE HE LIED THAT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE MATCHING FUNDS!!! How many children could he have fed? How much money could he have given his starving brother? How much money could he have given his starving, fugitive, illegal alien aunt with that extra $250 million he's raised since he lied about taking Campaing Matching Funds?
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Nov 02, 2008 10:07:18 AM CST
NO you can't, little liar. You've named like three things.
by coughlins laws
Run away, you little coward. Just like a typical liberal. When confronted with facts, instead of defending or debating, he attacks, changes the subject, or runs away. What a loser you are. Why can't you defend anything I wrote there? Oh yeah, you have no defense. You see all the hate and vitriol coming from the Hate Sites like the DailyKos and the Huffington Post. You see the vast Obama bias in the media. Run away, coward. You know that there is more hate coming from the Left. You can see it here. Please don't cry on election day!!! Better luck in 2012!!!
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scrawy cunt. Make that scrawny ultra-rich elitist out-of-touch-with 95 perecent-plus-of-everyday-Americans scrawny cunt. There, Coughlin. Wah-Wha. Wanna beat me up now? Just try you wuss. I welcome it.
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nuked the planet back into the Stone Age, since doddering John passed on in office. But she'll do it with a moronic winky-wink
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You seem to be making progress. You seem almost semi-rational lately. However, it takes only a few counter posts from BSB or DGDB to send you into another one of your apoplectic rages.
Almost every example you point to is not coming from the Obama campaign it is coming from the left wing blogosphere. Are there some people on the left who have stepped over the line? Sure. However, there are plenty of people on the right that have gone way over the line as well. Just visit FreeRepublic.com to see some very dangerous examples of the truly out of control right wing fringe.
Are there personal smears that have come directly from the Obama campaign? Aside from trying to make hay out of the $150,000.00 wardrobe thing I can't think of any.
Contrast that with the unending accusations of "Socialist/Marxist", "Hates America", "Not a real American", "Anti-America" that come from the official McCain / Palin campaign.
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Nov 02, 2008 10:48:30 AM CST
Here are some facts about Obama's socialist connections
by coughlins laws
We know for a fact he was friends with Bill Ayers (forget his terrorism, the guys is an admitted socialist). In Obama's book, IN HIS OWN WORDS, he admitted befriending "Marxist Professors". Obams said he'd like to "spread the wealth around", almost quoting Karl Marx directly. When asked if he regretted saying it, he said "NO!!!" He voted for the banking bailout (although McCain did, too) and Congressional Democrats have promised more money. He has talked about taking over the Health Care Industry. Congressional Democrats have threatened to take over the Oil Industry. So, I ask you, how do you figure Obama isn't a socialist? Will you still think that in 4 years if Obama gets elected and you see how much of the private sector Obama takes over? I really don't even know how it's a debate that Obama will practice socialism...
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It's called The Colbert Report
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McCain campaign being classless. He said that the only classy Republicans are the ones that endorse Obama or attack McCain. He left no middle ground. He named to former Republicans that have attacked McCain and a conservative publication that attacked McCain as the only evidence of those on the Right being "classy". So, I gave him a LONGER LIST of examples of Democrats NOT being classy. The DailyKos and the Huffington Post cheer when Republicans die (see Tony Snow) and advance "CLASSLESS" and unsubstantiated charges about Palin being the Grandmother of her Daughter, with ZERO PROOF of such a charge. I'm just saying, yeah, I see irrational hatred and classless attacks coming from pockets of the Right, but hatred and classlessness is definitely more prominent on the Left. I don't even think this is arguable. The Palin hatred has spread so far into the mainstream you can't find anything comparable against Obama from the right...
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attacks on the right as they see on the left. They have been mostly attacking McCain/Palin this whole season. They have been relentless on Palin. But, if they want equal time, then SNL will have to have a 4 hour show with nothing but constant Obama mocking before Tuesday to level it out. Don't be such a poor sport. Republicans have had to deal with constant attacks from the media and comedy shows for years at a 7 to 1 ratio and we've some how sruvived. You guys need some thicker skin. I'm sure Olbermann will name Affleck the "WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD" on Monday to make you feel better...
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Barack Obama has run a clean campaign. His campaign was not directly involved in any of the attacks you mentioned. McCain's camp however, is directly responsible for smears saying 1. Barack "pals" around with terrorist 2. calling Barack a "socialist" 3. attacking Barack's patriotism 4. the "teaching sex education to kindergarters" smears and 4. the robocalls. McCain's camp actually announced they were going to focus on character attacks such as Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright instead of talking about the economy because if they keep talking about the economy they would lose. The kind of smears the McCain camp are using have one specific purpose in mind and that is to try and make people think Obama is "different" and have been at times, although no one in the media will dare say it, borden-line racist.
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McCain got boo'ed. Seriously why go on SNL? Does he honestly think he can appeal to America's youth?
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As far as your ridicuous points- 1. It's a 100% PROVEN FACT that Obama have a fundraiser at the terrorists' home, shared office space with him for 3 years, and wrote a blurb for his book (sounds like he "palled around with him to me). 2. Barack is a socialist, has quoted socialists, has said he was friends with "Marxist Professors", said he wanted to "spread the wealth around" etc, etc, etc. 3. Who attacked Barack's patriotism? Show me the McCain ad... 4. Name me one single Presidential Campaign since the 70's that hasn't used so-called "robo-calls"...
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that the opening skit did not have a single cast member in it, including the host?
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http://celebquiz.com/admin/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/barack_obama00004.jpg
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My problem with the Olbermann sketch was that it just wasn't very good.
Affleck really didn't sound like Olbermann at all. He did not really have Olbermann's rhythms and cadences down. He also kept cracking himself up. Affleck really is quite taken with himself. Ben Affleck really does not have a bigger fan in he world than Ben Affleck.
They really should have put Bill Hader on the case if they wanted a good impression. I think Lorne Micheals or Seth Myers must have some kind of problem with Hayder. He is one of the most talented cast members yet he never seems to get used effectively.
SNL also seems to miss that Olbermann has his tongue planted firmly in his cheek most of the time. Where O'Reilly takes himself deadly seriously. It is a demonstration of Stephen Colbert's talent that he can pull off a consistently funny parody of all the TV talk blowhards night after night. -
with the youth. He's not!!! Even the polls (that vastly oversample Democrats) that have Obama up big, he doesn't clear more than 50% to 52%, tops. Most are undecided. Where do you get that Obama is up huge among the yout? Where do you get that only the "youth" watch SNL? I agree, Obama is running away with this election among those in college and those that have no jobs. If you take those people away, McCain wins in a landslide...
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Has jumped TB'S?!! DEEEEEEEEEEEEAR GOD!!!
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and plotting to kill and behead 120 black people, then assassinate Obama ...
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Nov 02, 2008 12:05:44 PM CST
EXPELLING THE SON OF THE FOUNDER OF YOUR CONSERVATIVE MAGAZINE
by bringingsexyback
because he endorses someone according to his conscience and not his party affiliation ...
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Oh yeah . . .and it IS pretty funny. Sheeit.
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of the Sarah Palin TB?
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No histrionics, just intelligent conversation.
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Yes, and the ocean is wet. Seriously, contrast Affleck with Jon Hamm last week. Hamm put a little effort into it and it was a good show. Affleck absolutely coasted and the show sucked. Granted there are other factors but the difference between the two hosts couldn't have been clearer.
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It's funny you should mention that. I just realized my POS DVR never recorded that show, even though I put it on "the list" ... Fuck you, TWC.
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It's good to see he has a sense of humor. Hope he's still smiling after they count the votes and give him the bad news.
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QVC skit was great
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leobloom, give me the example of Obama saying he wants us to win. He was against the surge and wanted immediate withdrawl last summer. If we took our troops out last summer, wouldn't we have lost the war? She never questioned his patriotism (why are you so defensive?). Obama is the one who has never been for victory. He keeps tauting the fact he's been against the war from the beginning. He was against the strategy that has brought victory within sight (the death total in Iraq last month is the lowest it's been since the conflict began). So, how can you say that Obama wants us to win in Iraq?
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This is being called the meanest attack against McCain so far.
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sexyback, you scumbag!!! If you can show me how two neo-nazis have anything to do with McCain or Republicans, I'll give you a dollar...
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Yours Sincerely, The Soviet Socialist Republic of Australia.
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on someone who is NOT conservative? Obama does not have one conservative policy. He is the most liberal Senator in the country. There is ZERO CHANCE Bill Buckley would have endorsed Obama. So, why should they keep him on if he's no longer conservative? The National Review has never claimed to be down the middle. They come from the Right-Side of the Political Spectrum and they are under NO obligations to keep on someone who is does not believe what the magazine's mission statement is...
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Nov 02, 2008 1:49:42 PM CST
Oh, BTW, Obamas' definition of rich has gone down again!!!
by coughlins laws
It's gone from $250,000, to $200,000, to $150,000, to $120,000 to now $72,000 a year!!! And, as we know, Obama has voted to increase taxes on those making as little as $42,000 a year. You know, maybe this will be just like Bill Clinton in 92, when he promised a middle-class tax cut and 3 weeks after the election he broke his promise!!!!
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Nov 02, 2008 1:52:20 PM CST
inaction, of course the sketch isn't perfect. Affleck has
by coughlins laws
been doing Olbermann a total of what, 5 days of rehersals? Colbert has been practicing for years now. The point is, it perfectly satired Olbermann's pompousness and liberal connecting of the dots and phony outrage...
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aunt is? I'm glad Obama's finally trying to return the donations to her. Isn't it funny how Obama's aunt was at his Senate swearing in ceremony and never mentioned to him that she was here illegally and ordered to be deported? And for someone who lives in a slum and has hardly any money, isn't it odd that she has "disappeared" from her home? Odd...
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What rock did you crawl out from under?
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The Presidential Candidate for the actual Socialist Party in the United States was on the Colbert Report and refuted the claim.
Is it Socialist to want a tax cut for 95% of Americans? (And let's stop with that $250,000, $100,000, $72,000, "it keeps going down!" bullshit. You can't blame Biden for fucking up sometimes) -
Nov 02, 2008 2:30:09 PM CST
How about the fact that Palin has her own brand of "Socialism"
by iamnicksaicnsn
right in the good ol' state of Alaska. She "redistributes" the wealth that the Alaskan oil companies make and gives it right to the people.
What about the bailout of American companies that both McCain and Obama voted for and that Bush backed?
So what if he wants to try something new, and try to help the middle class directly instead of assuming it's going to "trickle down" which makes for some very good pissing on the poor jokes by the way. We've tried these policies for years and it hasn't worked, the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer. And before you complain that the rich keep getting taxed up the ass, don't tell me that they don't have an assload of loopholes to exploit. -
Nov 02, 2008 2:58:48 PM CST
Your 100% proven fact about the fundraiser is in fact bullshit
by iamnicksaicnsn
There was a fundraiser in his home, but it was for a female Illinois politician and she invited Obama to go, not Ayers. You can read an article about it in USA Today. Or any of the other newspapers that have refuted the Ayers-Obama connection.
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Nov 02, 2008 3:03:49 PM CST
How can you say that Obama supporters have beat up McCain's?
by iamnicksaicnsn
If that was such a big deal, wouldn't it have made it on the news just like that lying bitch did? And even if you find examples, don't you think you could find examples of McCain supporters beating up Obama's?
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In the deluded belief that massive taxes will bankrupt his chain of Greasy Spoons.
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Have ya'll noticed that anything and everything said about Obama is condemned as a lie/falsehood? Stories in print, his own quotes. Hell, even video footage. All ignored or disregarded. As if everyone else in the world is a liar? Even people who have been part of his life, support him or have physically worked with him. They are ALL considered dishonest and dismissed. How can that be? How can such a cynical world so suddenly and blindly believe whatever is being marketed and sold to them? FROM A POLITICIAN, NO LESS!
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Nov 02, 2008 3:43:56 PM CST
holy shit...people are still defending McCain in here?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Wow. What a bunch of delusional fuck holes.
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He defines everything America is becoming: A Turd World nation.
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Nov 02, 2008 3:54:31 PM CST
Wow. Check out these predictions for election night!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Mark Halperin
Obama 349 McCain 189
Matthew Dowd
Obama 338 McCain 200
George Will
Obama 378 McCain 160
George Stephanopoulos
Obama 353 McCain 185
Chris Matthews
Obama 338 McCain 200
Nate Silver
Obama 347 McCain 191
Chris Cillizza
Obama 312 McCain 226
Arianna Huffington
Obama 318 McCain 220
Fred Barnes
Obama 252 McCain 286
Eleanor Clift
Obama 349 McCain 189
Markos Moulitas
Obama 390 McCain 148
Ed Rollins
Obama 353 McCain 185
Paul Begala
Obama 325 McCain 213
James Carville
Obama 330 McCain 208
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From www.fivethirtyeight.com
DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200, Colorado is going blue. What was supposed to be a nailbiter simply hasn't materialized into a very tough fight from the McCain campaign, and the Obama ground game in Colorado is an elite, overwhelming force. When all is said and done, stunningly beautiful Colorado will have two Democratic Senators, a Democratic governor, four or five out of seven House seats held by Dems, and will have given its nine electoral votes to the lanky Senator from Illinois. Chuck Todd made an outstanding point about Colorado and the Republican party's woes:
If I were the Republican Party, I'd make Michigan and Colorado my petri dishes for experiments to get the party's groove back. Until the GOP can appeal to secular independents in the West and working class Democrats in the Midwest, they are going to be a minority party. The party's comeback should start in one of these two states because they are microcosms of the GOP's issues. -
This is interesting....check out the search trends from Google in these important states. http://tinyurl.com/5zmv4d
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...(aka AnimalBraneBalls) a Tina Fey cutdown is the best thing you can come up with for a dubious return to AICN TB?! What a load!
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...it looks like one of AICN's most notorious nemeses has made a noted return to TB. If you get a chance, check out zfisk/homewrecker's blog. I knew that scumbag was lurking!
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the right wingers move to when Obama wins?
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This SNL TB makes for a nice, smaller home for political mudslinging in the final few days here. The other one was getting too big. However, Coughlins Laws seems to have abandoned the other one, which is nice, and put all his eggs in this basket.
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Saudi Arabia.
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That Google trends thing is awesome. Though I think people who don't like Obama search on him as much if not more than people who do.
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in Cleveland. That should be good filler for the next 24 hour news cycle. Suck on that, McKKKain.
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What up homes? Wife's good, and we've been mutually attentive to the taints. Periodic visits to the "forbidden places" keep things fresh ... and classy!
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As was his buddy Morbid "The Economy Is Just Fine" Obesity. Man, that seems like ages ago, doesn't it?
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Do you have ZFisk's URL handy by any chance?
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Nov 02, 2008 5:14:20 PM CST
ASHLEY JUDD STUMPING FOR OBAMA/BIDEN AND DEMS IN KENTUCKY
by bringingsexyback
She's so beautiful ...
http://www.hillbillyreport.com/blog/2008/11/our-own-ashley-judd-stumps-for-democrats-in-kentucky-you-go-girl.html -
To claim otherwise is just classless.
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It's not like Saddam is still in his palace giving orders. The new Iraqi government EXECUTED HIM. If we left Iraq today, it would be leaving in victory. Is everybody RETARDED?
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and democracy is an illusion brought on by decades of hard core propaganda. it exists all over the world in great, democratic, free countries and has been working successfully alongside full fledged democracy for decades, in countries that outrank us globally in quality of life studies. this notion that it's some evil specter related to totalitarianism is an absolute fallacy on the part of those who believe it. and it's a great tragedy that many in our country suffer a much lower quality of life than need be because people so readily cling to these cliched bumper-sticker-slogan ideas about what makes America great.
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especially when it comes to heathcare...Shouldn't healthcare be like fire protection? or police protection? something that is there when you need it and you don't think about...lets see a political ad that puts the issue like that and then the other side try to explain why they dont think so........
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in his own words ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7703000/7703725.stm -
So does Sarah Palin, though she won't admit it at the moment. What do we expect from the party of hypocrites?
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Wasn't there an episode two years ago when "Borat" and his fat Russian buddy (can't spell it) did the cold opening? Yet they weren't hosting and no cast member was in the opening, IIRC. So I don't think it was the first time the opening didn't feature a cast member or host. Political waste of time ranting continues in 3 ... 2...
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http://tinyurl.com/2cw2jg Apparently, the guy sore because I called him out in one of the Superman TBs and now he thinks that I'm brainwashing everyone to like Jon Hamm as a good casting choice for Supes. The whole thing is the first good laugh I've gained from AICN in awhile now.
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you can see it here! http://tinyurl.com/6ankzg I love Borat! Can't wait for Bruno.
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Afleck's baldwin wasn't bad. Keenan is bordering on worthless. McCain must really not buy into the polls that say he's even kinda close, cuz he really was hunting for a bump last night. No way he says and lets(you better believe the candidates get sketch approval) some of those jokes go two months ago. THey need to write for Hader much more. Wiig is apparently running for new amy.
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"catching" Ayers "attempted mass murderer" tendencies by being at a fundraiser with him, I guess that means we're all in imminent danger of losing say, 50-60 IQ points by being on this talkback with Coughlins.
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He wanted us to bring our troops back last year, before we have won. If we brought our troops back before the surge, wouldn't that be losing? Don't be upset because your guy wanted us to lose...
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sloths was funny. that was not
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Obama is going to lose Pennsylvania!!!! He has dropped at least 8 points in a week and combined with Murtha's comments about those in western PA being racist, McCain looks set to win!!! It's going to be a LONG NIGHT for Obama!!!
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Right.
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http://tinyurl.com/6hefbu
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... Valerious. You are soooo full of shit. How do you say that stuff with a straight face? For pity's sake, Hasselback appears to be mildly retarded most of the time. "Well this is probably why we don't see much liberal bashing. Because we conservatives have class and don't resort to that immature shit. Although in some cases, I think we should." Seriously? If you "don't see much liberal bashing", and sincerely believe there's evidence to support your "we conservatives have class and don't resort to that immature shit" assertion, you've got your head buried the sand.
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You mean the one's McCain couldn't have agreed more with?You're such a shill Coughlins. Dropping 8 points from a 12 point lead still leaves him 4 points ahead. The fact that he's doing as well as he is, is astounding. Meanwhile, look who is knocking on Arizona's door...** knock, knock **...guess who, Coughlins!!!
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"Saddam is about to use Weapons of Mass Destruction".
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What the hell are you talking about?
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... the only effective way to deal with Coughdrop is "Coventry": http://tinyurl.com/ya3ppw He doesn't actually 'hear' anything that's said to him. He already has his mind made up about EVERYTHING [under the sun], and just picks out keywords here and their to fit into his raving "replies". It's called the "Bill-O-The Clown" method of "debating".
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Yeah THAT makes is all totally worth it.
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I voted for Gore, then I voted for Kerry maybe I should vote for Obama..as it seems who ever I vote for looses.....'Course I also voted for Clinton twice.....well make that 3 times.....
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... will be on election day when he is finally forced to allow reality to seep in ... I predict that if Obama does indeed win, the first phase for people like Coughlins and Sean Hannity will be DENIAL - accusations of cheating, or the media influencing the outcome, etc etc.
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I have a feeling. He is gonna take it by 1 point.
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Nov 02, 2008 8:08:52 PM CST
And to clarify, the socialism we have in Australia is a good thi
by shan
And to clarify, the socialism we have in Australia is a good thing
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That may be true, but if things really go Obama's way, the writing will be on the wall early. For instance, I think polls close at 6 in Indiana ... If that state goes Obama, we'll more or less know who the next president is.
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The SF Chronicle says that Republicans stating that the SF Chronicle was holding back a tape of Obama saying that he would not allow any new coal burning power plants to be built is an out and out lie.
Read it here:
http://tinyurl.com/5bvumq
In addition to Drudge the other place Coughlins apparently sources his info is Newsbusters. Both sites called unreliable by the SF Chronicle.
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This guy and the "story" around him is the stupidest thing in the world. The idea that he is some kind of a victim is utterly ridiculous yet assholes like Sean Hannity and that blonde bimbo Monica on the McLaughlin group keep pushing it. Are they fucking stupid or do they think everyone else is?
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The Target Lady thing, that should be a regular skit on SNL and that was Ben Affleck's greatest role, playing a white guy from the hood and a UPS driver at that, with blonde corn-roll braids!!!
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As most of you may be aware - I believe it received some news coverage in the last few months - there will be an election held in the United States of America on Tuesday of this week. All American citizens who are registered voters will have to opportunity to cast a private ballot for the presidential and senatorial candidates of their choice as well as various local offices and judge-ships. In some areas you may also have the opportunity to cast your ballot on various legislative proposals.The right to a private ballot means that you have the opportunity to vote for the candidates of your choice and then shut the fuck up about it. Actually, that's two rights - the right to vote and the right to
not discuss it. If you choose to not exercise one, the other or both
of these rights, Why Do You Hate America?
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by Montreal radio comedian pretending to be France President Nicolas Sarkosy!
http://tinyurl.com/65se44
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... that's kind of old news by now.
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Seriously, are you just taking the piss or what?
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I thought that was what AintItCool is all about!
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....which reminds me. Did you guys know McCain claims to be some kind of a war hero?
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He can feel it. It being her vag. And before you shits say anything, I'm voting for Barr.
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... at least he knows all about crashing stuff.
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Don't listen to all the political 'experts' in the news media who say Obama has this won. Recent history shows that even practical unanimity among so-called experts and talking heads could end up being wrong. I'm a New York Giants fan, and last season, every so called expert and talking head in the media predicted the undefeated New England Patriots would crush the underdog Giants in the Superbowl, and we know what happened there. The Giants handed the 'invincible' Patriots their only loss of the season and became world champions. They beat the odds and proved the talking heads wrong.
There was another case where every expert agreed, and ended up being completely wrong: it was the days following the attacks on our country on 9/11. The day when thousands of innocent americans were faced with the choice of jumping to their deaths or getting burned alive, as they made their last cel phone calls to their loved ones. What followed not long after, in the dust filled air, amidst the smoking debris, family after family, husbands, wives, sons and daughters, sisters and brothers, came to the site of the attack, with photos and descriptions of their loved ones, desperately holding it up to the tv news cameras present, pleading to let them know that there loved ones escaped this viscious attack,(the type of attack people like William Ayers, Obama's friend, endorses, and believes more should be done, of course to achieve radical change). While the images of people running from large dust clouds and jumping to their deaths was shocking, scary, and angering, it was seeing the desperation of these family members, on the brink of despair, yet hanging on to a thread of hope, that there loved ones, or someone who has seen their loved ones, would respond to their search, this is when it really hit me, an overwhelming and coninuous deep feeling of grief for each one that appeared, as if their loved ones were my own. An outpouring of grief and sadness, and the thought, that somehow, we can never let this happen again. But while this was happening, every expert, from almost every field, and every political persuasion predicted that we would be attacked again, on U.S. soil, in some form or fashion, even if not on the same scale; perhaps in the form of suicide bombers, like those that occur in Israel; they predicted a lifestyle of living with the threat of terorist attacks and living in fear we would have to get used to. Check any news archive in the days that followed, every expert was sure we would be attacked again on U.S. soil. It never happened. That 'fear' of going to a public place for fear of a dirty bomb, or suicide bomber, amazingly after such unanimous expert predictions, is practically non-existent. The place where we still have some hint of that fear and reality of a possible attack is the airport, but even that has diminished. What was also shocking about that day is that once one attack was confirmed, we would then hear about another attack on the Pentagon, then a plane going down somewhere else.
Was our city next? Do we want that type of fear to return?
Obama constantly says we have to change from President Bush's policies. Unlike McCain, he feels such a change is necessary in our foreign policy and in dealing with terrorism. Yet, despite economic issues, President Bush has kept us safe here on U.S. soil. Despite expert prediction, he has kept us safe from attack, and given us a feeliing of security. Not only has terrorism been prevented on U.S. soil but has gone down significantly around the world. We are beating the enemy. Afghanastan is a problem again because they have retreated back there, where they started. Obama wants to change this course? Does he even want to change what has been working? Does he want to continue to win the war on terror, or will he allow them a chance to strengthen again? What are we to believe when Obama supported a candidate in Kenya named Odinga who promised to stop the war on terror in that country? What are we to believe when Obama has dinner with pro terrorist PLO members, responsible for many suicide bombers? What are we supposed to think when Obama thinks little that we have killed and captured many al queada terrorists in Iraq; he diminishes the importance of the ideal of freedom giving no value to the fact that our military has freed the people of Iraq. He was against the surge that is leading to success in Iraq, and he doesn't seem to understand the value of having a new ally in Iraq to help in that region, especially against threats like Iran. Yet, Obama did once say that Iran is a 'small country' and not a serious threat. What are we to believe when Obama and his congressional allies are quoted as saying that they cut our national security budget by a huge margin, and leave us vulnerable to nuclear missile attack, especially by terrorist nations such as Iran. Obama claims to be able to gain respect around the world, yet the current French president says Obama's view of international politics is naive and immature. Obama's own VP selection Joe Biden predicts that Obama will surely be tested by our enemies as a result of his image of being weak. Even Hillary Clinton said that it would be unwise to elect someone who requires 'on the job training' in this volatile international climate.
Obama should be clear on exactly what he wants to change in regards to our national security and the war on terror, because of the very fact that despite the predictions following 9/11, the policies of the Bush administration have kept us safe. McCain will continue to emphasize strength while facing our enemies, and to keep up the policies that have kept our homeland safe from attack.
What change for the better could Obama offer in this regard?
So, the experts were wrong, so far, that we would be attacked again by terrorists on U.S. soil, and that it would be something we would have to get used to, thank God. Experts were wrong about the Patriots beating the Giants. Let's hope the experts are wrong again about the results of this election, so we can worry more about Superbowl results and less about being blown to bits by a radical terrorist at the local grocery store, coffee shop, or mall.
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Therefore, scores of Political polls over the last 6 weeks are probably wrong.
Tripe.
9/11 ="the type of attack people like William Ayers, Obama's friend, endorses, and believes more should be done, of course to achieve radical change."
First, Ayers does not endorse the 9/11 attacks.
Second, Obama is not friends with anybody who endorses the 9/11 attack.
As you are perfectly well aware.
Third, 9/11 occurred on Bush's watch. It involved a monumental failure of proper liaison between intelligence agencies - which NOBODY in the Bush administration ever had the integrity to admit responsibility for.
"The policies of the Bush administration have kept us safe."
The policies of the Bush administration caused the unnecessary war in Iraq, (the dictator of which was not an ally of Al Quaeda) and that war has caused US casualties in the tens of thousands.
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radio host in San Francisco screamed on her show "F@CK GOD DAMN Joe the GOD DAMN MOHTER F@CKIN Plumber!!! I want MOHTER F@CKIN Joe the Plumber dead!!! Very classy from the Left!!! Add to that the Manequinn made up like Sarah Palin hanging from a noose out in LA!!! So many examples of classy liberals!!! Oh, BTW, the Secret Service still can't find the non-existent person that wanted Obama dead at a rally. I wonder if it never really happened?
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Funny how she disappears the weekend before the election...
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Thanks for the link - looks like ZFisk has indeed returned! Making an appearance on his blog is an honor you should prize!
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Nov 03, 2008 6:13:04 AM CST
LEAKING CONFIDENTIAL CASE OF ELDERLY KENYAN WOMAN TO SCORE POLIT
by bringingsexyback
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who plotted to shoot and behead 120 blacks, and to assassinate a Presidential candidate ... Class.
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Nov 03, 2008 6:17:52 AM CST
BEAUTIFUL KENTUCKY NATIVE ACTRESS STUMPING FOR BARACK OBAMA
by bringingsexyback
Too classy.
http://www.hillbillyreport.com/blog/2008/11/our-own-ashley-judd-stumps-for-democrats-in-kentucky-you-go-girl.html -
He got shouted down over the weekend by a real plumber who actually holds a license. Hehe!
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Ironically, so does Joe. Joe is stupid. Joe has no class.
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Who are you voting for? I'm still undecided.
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to Joe The Plumber's driveway and talk to him. How is any of this Joe the Plumber's fault? Obama immediately started making fun of Joe the Plumber at campaign events starting the next day, before McCain even mentioned him at the debate. So, is everything in your life in line? It better be if you ever plan on questioning The One because his people will find out everything about you!!!
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Nov 03, 2008 6:30:12 AM CST
IF JOE DIDN'T TAZE HIS SON AND GOT A PLUMBING LICENSE
by bringingsexyback
He might be able to afford some Rogaine.
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when he owes $12000 in back taxes?
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not lawn. He doesn't even have a driver's license, much less a plumbing one.
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Coughlin's, give up. You're a moron and have been on the receiving end of the biggest kicking since Agincourt for the last few weeks. It's pathetic and shameful that you keep trying with your drivel laced, exclamation mark punctuated nonsense posts. And MNG- Zfisk AND AnimalStructure back? at the same time? Where is DocP with his TB-Fu to deal with the pair of them. Nice to see he's outed you as being both gay and DocP. Weirdo.
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VOTE...pick a candidate and get out and Vote....or shut the fuck up, failing to vote means you loose the right to complain...be heard, go Vote...
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... by merely walking through the neighbourhood doing a "meet-'n-greet."
Climbed inside Joe's '\brain, turned off the mighty turbines of intelligence, disconnected the Talk-bone from the CommonSense-bone, made him say DUMB STUFF!!!
Over and over again, for the next 10 days (nothing to do with Joe being a silly Limelight Junkie.
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I bet coughdrop knows. Or perhaps not.
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actually choosing not to vote gives me the right to complain about everything.
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There are 3 fronts in the War on Terror - 1. Airport/Customs security 2. Western-style public school systems in the Middle East. 3. The floor of the UN. . . that's how you win the War on Terror. How has Bush done anything to "keep us safe?" How do US troops halfway around the world stop a terrorist attack on domestic soil? . . . Wait a second, I think I see it! If I apply a loose, Pastafairan-style association among two disparate facts: Troops in Iraq go up + Terrorism in US goes down. Hmmm . . . My GOD, it MUST be true!! Let's elect Bush to a third term immediately, because only his brilliance in Iraq can keep us SAFE!!
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... of meaning, Lost Jarv, when it comes to the word "casualty".
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said to Alice in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less."
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Nov 03, 2008 8:56:08 AM CST
FREE TALL COFFEE TOMORROW AT STARBUCKS - AFTER YOU VOTE
by bringingsexyback
Time to wake up America!!!!
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Have another million internets.
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Regarding zfisk, the whole thing is pretty random. DocPaz and I had identified his TB handle (nevahagin) quite sometime ago. Recently, during one of the recent Superman threads, he posted some moronic garbage and I called him out on it. I also fired a random shot insinuating that I knew who he really was. He must have replied with something really crazy because not long afterwards, nevahagin was banned.Fast forward to the most recent Superman TB. I noticed a couple of posts made by a Talkbacker that I have grown to suspect is another one of zfisk's usernames. (It's one that Xiphos would easily recognize.) So, out of curiousity, I went and checked zfisk's blog. Lo' and behold, look what I found. Not only has he updated the layout, he posted a blog, aimed soley at me, discussing the very thing I called him out on. Needless to say, I cracked up and I'm glad to see that I pegged that bastard.As for DocPazuzu, I sent him the details but I'm not sure of his current TB participation status. Yet, I have little doubt that when faced with the opportunity, he will swoop down and strike like a mighty bird of prey.And yes, BlackCrippler is indeed BraneRobot/AnimalStructure. May he go the way of anchorite...
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....if anything should upset people its the fact that WE-- TAX PAYING AMERICANS are covering Joe The Plumber's fat lazy ass for refusing to pay his fucking taxes. He is a mooch off society. The same thing McCain is supposedly trying to combat. Hypocritical piece of shit-- just like with his "I'm trying to combat unfair social security collection" speech while collecting $23,157 in social security benefits in 2007. While his lizard wife is a fucking baziliionare. See that. Out of fucking touch. Don't act like you give a shit about the working man you crusty old piece of spineless shit cake.
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Nov 03, 2008 9:22:41 AM CST
In 10 year we'll look back at Joe The Plumber...
by dannyglovers_dickblood
.....as a representation of the fucking joke McCain's campaign was. From the beginning, the campaign was a dysfunctional piece of shit. The fact that they assume American's are so fucking brainless and will swallow the Joe The Plumber bullshit and vote McCain, is absolutely disgusting. Yeah he's just a simple plumber trying to buy the business-- bull fucking shit. 99% of plumbers make less than 250k-- I'm supposed to feel sorry for the 1% that may pay a few hundred dollars extra tax? FUCK OFF.
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I bet I know which Username.... BlackCrippler is a scumbag, but AnimalParts has about 50 ID's stored up in preparation for the inevitable ban hammer, so we'll never see the end of the horrible neo-fascist cunt
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Good ol' Joe went out of his way to talk to Obama. The idea that Obama took it to Joe is one of the most moronic things that keeps getting repeated, since it's on video and has been shown a million times that this jackass got Obama's attention, not vice-versa.I've never heard Obama bash the guy, not once. I challenge anyone to find an instance of this. And not something that happened after Joe started shilling for McCain directly, though even then I don't think it's happened.The "victim" in this case brought it on himself, from start to finish. Don't want the attention? Don't get in front of the cameras, douche.
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That's the dick that reviewed Crystal Skull in the summer. Although he is a clown, he isn't evil and insane
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Nov 03, 2008 9:38:46 AM CST
the worst thing said about Joe The Plumber....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
....from the Obama/Biden campaign was when Biden said "I don't know any plumbers making 250k."
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Where does he hang? never eben seen him on this site.
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And are you referring to shogunshin?
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He either wrote the first Skull review or was heavily in the TB. He's a clown. He's been around a good while and posted in the same TB as nevahagin on occasion. Course, if he is fisky, then I stand corrected.
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That was the guy I led the pack to tear apart. He seemed like child that blamed all the world's problems on George Lucas. That was the famous Merrick's 12 Year old Son with A.D.D. TB. Haha. I remember a guy made the handle MERRICKS_12YEAROLDSON. Hilarious.
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I don't recall that particular Skull review but I'll look it up. Yeah, he's definitely a clown but he also shares a few of the same posting characteristics that lead me to believe it might be him (primarily his fondness for Superman TBs).In any case, keep your eyes open!
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Nov 03, 2008 9:53:03 AM CST
Joe The Plumber signed with a management company....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
-- The Press Office, to handle his public relations.
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He's also the guy that Xiphos got into it with in the Heath Ledger obit TB.
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How so? About Heath....
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BlackCrippler posted in this very TB. He's been laying rather low since his most recent banning as BraneRobot.
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That's the guy that said he worked close to Moriarty right? He claims to be some kind of press. He had that great line "TO KNOW THE MAN, IS TO SMELL THE MAN." And then went on a giant rant about the scent of Moriarty's flop sweat.
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I think the return of Braneballs aka BlackCrippler calls for one of your songs. It'll be only a matter of time before he loses it and then pledges never to return again (this time he means it!).
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You'd have to look up that particular TB to see what was really going on.
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Both of them are banned. Xiphos was still the original Xiphos. All his shit is gone. AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW FUCK!!
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Anchorite.
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Never heard of him.
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You forgot about Madonna/Guy Ritchie. This election tore families apart. The rebuilding begins in January.
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Like Jack from Titanic ... he exists ... only in our memories ...
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Who schedules Sex??
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Yes, that's BlackCrippler (aka RowdyRoddyStriper, BraneRobot, AnimalStructure, ThunderBalls, and names yet to be discovered!).JPT - howdy, sir. Yeah, the pledges to never return always cracked me up. Funny how the idiot would then tell us how he had already created backup usernames just in case AICN banned him (again) for another one of his vile political or anti-Mori rants. He's a true creep (near zfisk/homewrecker status). Perhaps a song for TB is in order...
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I mean, craziness doesn't grow on trees, you've got to really refine your craft and work on it for years.Crazy town demands devotion.
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Nov 03, 2008 10:12:34 AM CST
Fuck Brane's posts are gone from that TB.....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
with Moriarty. This is the one where he said his "TO KNOW THE MAN IS TO SMELL THE MAN..." line.
Here are some of Mori's responses....
by TheRealMoriarty
May 27th, 2008 02:24:48 PM ...
it was my FUCKING BIRTHDAY last night. That's why I haven't responded. I'm not dodging your stupid questions, BraneRobot. First of all, I said exactly what I meant to say about the script IN MY ARTICLE. You see how I referred to Zak Penn as the writer? You see the final poster where Zak Penn is the only credited writer? There you go. Zak Penn wrote the film. Zak's script IS the film. That's really all that needs to be said.
Pardon the fuck out of me for going last night to enjoy hanging out with my friends instead of hovering here for every little question or to respond each and every time one of you feels the need to attack my fucking integrity.
Regarding set visits: of course I've seen films where the final movie was a mess after seeing sequences out of context that worked. This is not a review of a final film. This is me passing along impressions of the footage I was shown. No more. No less. If that bothers you, don't read set visits. Wait for the final review. Beyond that, I don't know what to tell you.
Tell You What...
by TheRealMoriarty
May 27th, 2008 03:07:08 PM ...
you let a couple of these morons come to your work and follow you around and not only bald-faced lie about what you have or haven't done all day, but also project their own miserable bitter agendas onto you. All day. For twelve years. I'm tired of having someone completely misrepresent what I've written and create these elaborate backstories of bullshit for my actions. BraneRobot... genro... these aren't one-time posters. These are ongoing, persistent trolls. I am perfectly calm, but I'm not going to tolerate this sort of horseshit or allow them to post their lies unchecked.
Yeah, Right...
by TheRealMoriarty
May 27th, 2008 04:22:20 PM ...
that's a preposterous claim. Sure, BraneRobot. You know me. You "stand next to me." Riiiiight. I don't believe that for one second. Easy to say when you hide behind absolute troll anonymity. You haven't been banned. You haven't been silenced. But now you'll run away to an even more removed shield of anonymity.
Enjoy the bitter. Enjoy your own bile and misery. Seems to be all you've got.
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Speaking of crazy, check out the link I posted above (addressed to BSB). It will take you to zfisk/homewrecker's blog - where he had decided to take another shot at yours truly!
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...in those posts. He said some shit about recently standing so close to Mori he could see the beads of sweat on the back of his fat neck. Creepy.
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I will go visit www.wackoasallhell.com.
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...what the fuck? Every time I go there, I don't see shit. Where did he attack you? I just see the fucking Die Hard 4 thing everything. He updates it like twice a year.
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MNG called him out in a superman thread, which is what crazyballs mentioned in the first two comments.
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"multiusernamecreep of actafool.com" Hahaha. Didn't realize what that was. Thought it would be more direct.
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has links to some truly disgusting nazi literature. He's dangerous and disturbed. The funniest is when he names every username that is actually DocP and it's pretty much every long time user. Apart from me. *sniff. He doesn't love me*.
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any of the 'newer' users.He should really just put "the entire AICN community", as they are all out to get him.
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...I can see that much.
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jews. I've seen him refer to the "Jewdicial" system before. He's insane
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hahahaha
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...zfisk/homewrecker believes that a majority of the usernames registered at AICN all belong to DocPazuzu. And he believes that DocPazuzu is, of course, Moriarty who uses AICN as a Zionist front to sway public opinion about any number of things. It's quite the Multi-username Zionist Conspiracy.Funny how zfisk's blog always manages to bring about some campfire/war story nostalgia.
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Yeah, I saw him post about Tina Fey and asked what rock he had been under. Methinks he is fearful of another banning due to the embargo against new ID's. Anyone know when that will be resolved?
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i gotta see this with my own eyes.
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http://tinyurl.com/2cw2jg
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Nov 03, 2008 11:09:41 AM CST
CIRCUIT CITY CLOSING 155 STORES - STARTING WEDNESDAY
by bringingsexyback
If your local store is closing, you might catch a good deal on some shit. Think of me for your Christmas shopping!!!
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yes- the great zfisk wars of 2005. A fun time.
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My favorite part is the stiff thumbs up he gives. I love it. He could impregnate a Viet-Cong hooker with thumbs that stiff.
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"Tell us to say thank you...so that we can thank you for your service."Funny.
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Etc. God bless his geriatric self.
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Nov 03, 2008 11:22:15 AM CST
all I know is Obama has been saying some nasty......
by dannyglovers_dickblood
...things about Pennsylvania.
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... is the fact that he is the Antichrist. That puts a damper on things, frankly.
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How will these crazy folks go on after Obama (hopefully) becomes President? Other than plotting unspeakable acts?
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...another tell tale sign Grampy is getting ahead of himself is when he starts doing that rapid fire flick of his tongue on his dry lizard lips. Followed by a hard but quick inhale. And then he gets that little bounce in his step. Like when he says that famous line "Send me out on one last mission my friends," he is bouncing up and down while rapid tongue flicking and his left eye starts twitching.
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So that could only mean Obama is the true Messiah. Things worked out after all!
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Don't worry, they'll return to their regularly scheduled weekly meets where they switch off burning effigies of either Isaac Hayes or Martin Luther King, Jr.
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but to me, the prospect of an Obama Presidency undercuts my previous Zionist conspiracies to a vast degree. And I welcome it.
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There were those that thought Bush was the chosen one, but he actually turned out to be the Antichrist. His main purpose of existing was to propel Obama into the spotlight when the country was in a time of need, and destroy Bush and his ideology once and for all. Cheney is of course Palpatine. We will find out in years to come that Bush was actually Obama's Father.
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I can't wait to see the look on McKKKain's face when he steps into the next Senate session. McSHAME
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That's just the Thorazine starting to work. Don't worry about it.
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...I really think there is a good chance McCain will retire.
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That's from 85% 2 months ago. Funny things happen to politicians when their true characters are revealed.
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Nov 03, 2008 11:33:01 AM CST
I REALLY WISH THEY WOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT MASON-DIXON POLLS
by bringingsexyback
Really makes me nervous and want to get out there and vote.
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...when your Governor gets on the nation stage and makes your state the fucking laughing stock of the Union.
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Nov 03, 2008 11:34:15 AM CST
OKAY Y'ALL HERE IS THE LIST OF CIRCUIT CITY STORE CLOSINGS
by bringingsexyback
I'd like a new 50" Bravia if y'all can swing it.
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/CC/455583710x0x245809/2BFAC9D9-6CEF-4027-9E51-1C635F42F7A7/110308%20Store%20Closing%20List.pdf -
We'll see. If Obama is true to his word and actually opens up negotiations with Iran, I'll believe it.
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Oh you may laugh NOW, but the Republican Party is going to go pretty damn crazy after this Election, and the knives come out in true earnest, so I for one wouldn't rule it out.
Lets not forget what Champion old coot and King of Corruption Ted Stevens has done in the last few days either. THAT has been solid GOLD Political Comedy.
Palin tries to run as a breath of fresh air and anti-corruption then a mere few DAYS before the Election her old Mentor and sponsor and possibly THE most famous Alaskan Politicain Ted Stevens is found GUILTY on 7 charges of corruption and is STILL running for office as an indicted criminal.
You REALLY couldn't make that shit up if you tried! And what part of "REAL" America does Old Ted represent Palin ? Hmmm...???
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...he's got the build and that semi-retarded glazed look.
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she's a hockey mom with 5 kids, a multitasking machine. she can be president AND vice president. I've already bought property in Baja and Vancouver.
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I have to say, a lot of my preconceptions about Zionist dominance has been shattered during this election.
For one, the total inanity of Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild moving to the McKKKain camp and her skewering at the fingertips on her own HuffPost blog has served to demystify the Rothschild name for me.
For another - witness the escalating political Civil War brewing in Israel. I've been keeping up with Haaretz - recently the government officials have been warning about potential assassination threats against Livni, and there's a battle of wills between Likud and the rising Left. ANY progress to be made vis-a-vis diplomacy with Iran will ONLY come with an Israel governed by the Peace Now contingent. If Likud prevails (and they are not looking so good at the moment), they will sabotage Obama. No doubt.
The settlers are now calling for violence against Israeli police, calling them "Nazis". How crazy is that?
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Sarah and Todd!! Hellllzzz yeah!!
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Well either that or Palin/Rove. They clearly need someone to tell her what to do like they did with Bush.
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When the going gets tough, Coughlins will have a skirt to hide behind!!!
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And not in the good way. Ease up on the cockiness. I won't believe Obama has won until McCain gives his concession speech. So stop jinxing us!
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You need to enforce it until Wednesday morning. Solidarity, brothers!
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you can almost hear him yelling as he types...
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anything can happen....
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They suck. I haven't had a pleasant shopping experience in a Circuit City in almost a decade. These are the guys who partnered up with RCA to sell DIVX and owned CarMAX at the same time. No wonder they are going under. It's about a decade too late!
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Nov 03, 2008 12:56:22 PM CST
I'm voting at least 5 times to make sure one of them
by irrelevntelefant
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Cease with the cockiness fella's. Time to lay low until tomorrow night........I have a good feeling but you never know. Getting to close to keep yelling ITS OVER!!
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Uh, sorry. Winter Holidays. This just in: "Jesus Christ backs Obama in latest poll". Robo-calling the man upstairs' direct line once too often, McCain campaign workers found themselves on the receiving end of a "come to Jesus" moment. Jesus himself picked up the phone and told the McCain campaign spokesperson on the other end of the line to "Stop f***ing calling me! I was going to vote for you, but I am so damned tired of hearing Joe the Plumber this and Maverick that, I'm voting for the guy with the Muslim name! Are you happy now you schmuck?!!" McCain supporters may have been better off rallying behind a carpenter instead of a plumber. Apparently Jesus doesn't like looking at hairy ass-cracks. At a rally attended by some umpteen-million people, Barack Obama wasted no time in responding: "There are some of you out there who think of me as the Messiah. Well, actually I'm better than him. Jesus actually looks up to me. So when it comes time to cast your ballot for change in just a few hours, remember to vote for the guy who got Jesus to convert. I'm not running to be your President, I'm running to be your Savior!" The speech was followed by chants of Barack Obama for President! Barack Obama for Savior!"
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So it's hardly cockiness to discuss it.
As for who wins I've never said Obama is absolutely certain to win, frankly nothing is 100% certain in Politics.
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Something was missing from the first of John McCain's seven campaign stops today: the crowd.
Kicking off the last day of the election in Tampa, Florida, John McCain was welcomed by a roughly 1,000 voters. Compare that to the 15,000 people that President Bush drew to a rally in Tampa on the eve of the 2004 election. "What's up with that?" wrote Adam Smith at the St. Petersburg Times.
Even Fox News had a bit of difficulty spinning the whole thing. Carl Cameron, who is following the Senator at every stop on Monday, said the crowd size was likely "a little bit disturbing" for the McCain campaign. He added that organizers had set up the venue predicting ten times the number of attendees.
"Last night in Miami Sen. McCain arrived for a midnight rally and had more than 10,000 people in Miami. Today in Tampa, for a morning event, it's a small crowd, only about 1,000. And I can tell you is it looks like it was set up with the perimeter and all for about 10 times this crowd. In addition, you'll note that there are no actual McCain signs here. This is one of the events that is put on, ostensibly paid for by the Republican Party."
Later in his segment, Cameron tried to explain the empty venue as a byproduct of volunteers being dispatched for get-out-the-vote activities. But he couldn't hide the fact that the Tampa kick-off wasn't the best start for a long day.
"They believe that their 72-hour get-out-the-vote exercise will make the difference," he said. "That is one of the reasons why the size of this crowd is a little bit disturbing for the McCain campaign."
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Everybody has been scrambling for the reason the world will end according to the Mayan calendar in 2012. The Mayans are right, a sacrifice of sorts, something of unknown origin will "end time" in hopes to prevent a much bigger calamity....
Palin is running for president in 2012.
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...fiercely committed to his own opinion and passionately narrow world view AntoniusBloc as always. *YAWN*
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It aint over till it's over, and I won't be SHOCKED at any outcome. But I would be surprised if McCain wins this thing. It's just unlikely. I'm going to allow myself a certain amount of confidence; I want to think positive and not worry about jinxing it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuBwkh7zGAc funny shit
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*SIGH*
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Nov 03, 2008 1:22:49 PM CST
A real jinx would be McCain wins, has an immediate heart attack
by irrelevntelefant
and Palin is sworn in come January.
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I'm making wake-up calls to friends and family at 5AM. They've been warned. Y'all do the same.
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That's an evil thought.Damn you.
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Stay positive and picture Obama as our President. Oh Jesus I am so nervous now. I'm a fucking wreck...
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My mom and I are the only two people in my family who can vote (both naturalized) but my wife is thinking about it and my daughter is too young. And since my mum and I have already voted, we've done everything we can, save for driving people to the polling place.I can't believe you people aren't more concerned about losing after what happened 4 years ago. Am I the only person who was euphoric all day reading exit polls only to have cold hard reality smash him in the face shortly after dinner time?Turn it down a notch, folks. If we lose, after all this gloating, we'll never hear the end of it from He Who Cannot Be Named.
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But where am I going to find a live rooster, a circus midget, and baby oil at this late hour?Should I not have typed that? Doh!
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I remember the day after, all these guys in my office who were Bushies, came into work wearing red shirts. That still stings to this day.I hope every one of those pricks lost their shirt after another 4 years of Bush.
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Palin steps up and names Pat Buchannon as VP!
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Here it is, my friends. Please keep Obama in your hearts and minds tomorrow.
Registered Voters:
Obama 53%
McCain 40%
Likely Voters (Expanded)
Obama 53%
McCain 42%
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Nov 03, 2008 1:45:49 PM CST
I hope it's a blow out of Reagan/Mondale proportions!
by irrelevntelefant
cause if it's close, the GOP will pull out all of the dirty tricks.
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Puff the Magic Dragon. Or perhaps one of the Wiggles.
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Sucked... not Bafflecks fault though... good directing and acting, just a stupid and contrived third act... so like half of boston was in on some cockamamie conspiracy to steal the kid? wickid retaaaded!
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A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE FOR GEORGE W. BUSH! VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!
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... but I LIKE it I LIKE it!
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sarah palin gotta eat!
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Hope you have fun tomorrow night.
Could you post a link indicating a "rising left in Israel"? All the polls I've seen have Likud either ahead or even with Kadima(which is more or less center, not Left). Thanks. -
Nov 03, 2008 2:26:12 PM CST
to semi-quote Chris Rock, if Obama wins and you have
by irrelevntelefant
anything on Wednesday that involves a black person doing it, it' ain't getting done.
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Nov 03, 2008 2:39:45 PM CST
I'm starting to find it interesting that Palin...
by hawaiian organ donor
...still hasn't released her medical records. Two weeks overdue and nothing.
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I thought maybe she had three breasts or Quatto growing out of her gut.
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She doesn't want to expose her horns and tail.
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Nov 03, 2008 2:58:40 PM CST
Palin/Mussolini 2012!! LETS CLEANSE THIS COUNTRY!!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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Hell yeah. I thought I was the only fool excited about the Waterworld: SE. Good to see there are still other decent human beings in this world.
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Terence Tolbert, Barack Obama's Nevada state director, died suddenly of a heart attack yesterday. He was 44, and a former senior aide to New York City schools chancellor Joel Klein and mayor Michael Bloomberg.
For this reason, the mood in Obama's campaign headquarters is more somber than it otherwise would be.
In a statement this morning, Obama said he was "shocked and saddened" to learn of the death.
"Terence was a strong force in this campaign, with a positive outlook that brought people together. He was much loved by his team, who often repeated his motto of 'leave no stone unturned.' His enthusiasm, talent, and warm heart will truly be missed. The thoughts and prayers of the entire Obama-Biden family are with his wife and loved ones," Obama said.
Tolbert is survived by his wife, Freida, and his mother, Carolyn.
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It comes out tomorrow, not on the 14th. Mine was shipped from Amazon today. I can't wait.
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Nov 03, 2008 3:14:44 PM CST
Sounds like the brown shirts will be wearing blue this year!
by snake foreskin
You guys are off your rockers with hate toward the right. Lighten up, will you? The right isn't evil and neither is the left. Obama isn't the Savior or the Antichrist and McCain isn't either. They're both a couple of guys who think they have the answers to our problems. Neither of them really do, of course. They both suck as candidates for President of the US of A. Why? Because neither of them is sporting a mullet and both of them are pussified ass-kissers! America is about to bend over and take it up the ass again, and you guys are creaming your pants! It's like a damn bukkake convention in San Francisco around here. I bet you guys would let Obama spooge on your face if it'd get him elected! Slurp! Obama/Biden Slurp! I haven't seen this much suckage since Season 2 of Heroes!
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Like ACORN says, you never know when you might find a live one who'll be willing to vote Democrat! Death shouldn't stop a person's right to vote! Vote Obama or Die - and Vote Obama!
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Obama is not the divine savior. But McCain is indeed the Anti-Christ.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but Palin not releasing her medical records has me wondering. I won't deny some of the rumors surrounding Obama. I'm willing to admit there's merit to a story or two. But this thing surrounding Palin and the baby is really too much to swallow. Too many coincidences.
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Then, May He Rest In Piss.
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I'm going to New York next weekend....when there is no new SNL. Seriously? First weekend after the election and no new episode? What the fuck.
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G. Gordon or Scooter?
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If McCain wins there's a good chance that we'll have some mega-sized riots all over the country. All those drunk white college kids, you know! Watch out! The youth vote is angry! Seriously though. Do you think there will be riots if Obama wins? I've already heard several news stories focusing on the potential for serious civil unrest if McCain comes out on top. That's fuckin' crazy! It makes us look like a damn third world country! If your guy doesn't get elected, cry into your beer. Don't grab a baseball bat and wreak havoc on your own neighborhood. Hey! Here's an idea - maybe the same people who drive people to the polls will be willing to drive them to the other side of town in case they don't like the outcome of the election and want to fuck some shit up! Don't shit where you eat, right?
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R.I.P., you great woman. Bless you for raising some a phenomenal man to lead us. Thoughts go out to the Obama family.
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And he should be in jail for life just for going by "Scooter". G. Gordon Liddy would be a lot cooler if he had a mullet. As it is he looks like a character from Dick Tracy.
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This idea that they are both as bad is fucking annoying in its ubiquity. I am not a Democrat and I don't like many of the individuals in the party, but come on, the Republican Party is worse.
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McCain should die, too. Maybe then he'd be up in the polls.
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It would have been nice for her to have witnessed her grandson become president of these united states. R.I.P
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Man. I can't fucking believe that timing. A day before the election?!! FUCK. That is awesome he went to see her at least. She must have been so proud.
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Vote for her grandson tomorrow. I'm so sad right now.
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All you need to do is look at the sorry state of affairs in this country right now to see that. The Dems have been in power, the GOP has been in power, and neither party can grab their ass with both hands tied behind their back! You guys are pussified partisan rim-jobbers with not an ounce of integrity. Just the sort that keeps these assholes in power and doesn't hold them accountable for their screw-ups! Way to go!
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Nov 03, 2008 3:45:28 PM CST
Snake Foreskin -- take your mullet and fuck yourself...
by dannyglovers_dickblood
...with it. We're done arguing policies. GOP IS GOOD!! DEMS ARE EVIL!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP. The debates ended last week. You're too late my man.
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Poor woman, fo sho! She raised him the best she knew how and he turned around and told the country what an ignorant bigot she was. Way to go, Barry. Toot should be so proud. Hell, she probably said she was voting for McCain and David Plouffe held a pillow over her face until she "Toot"ed her last horn. I thought every vote was supposed to count? That's okay because ACORN already has her registered to vote 37 times in Ohio.
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(CNN) -- There's a whole world of people out there, and boy, are they pissed off.
The anonymity of the Internet encourages online ranting, from election-season tirades to mockery of celebrities.
On political blogs, the invective flies. Posters respond to the latest celebrity gossip with mockery or worse. Sports fans set up Web sites with names that begin with "fire," hoping coaches, athletic directors and sportscasters lose their jobs.
And though there are any number of bloggers and commenters who attempt to keep their postings and responses on a civil level, all too often interactive Web sites descend into ad hominem attacks, insults and plain old name-calling. Indeed, there are even whole sites devoted to venting, such as justrage.com (one screed there was titled, "I don't give a flying f***, so f*** you") and mybiggestcomplaint.com.
This is not a world Emily Post would want to be caught in after dark.
"The Internet can be a great tool," said Sara Black, a professor of health studies at St. Joseph's University who takes a particular interest in online bullying. "Like any tool, it can also be misused."
One reason for the vitriol that emerges on the Web, experts say, is the anonymity the Internet provides. Commenters seldom use their real names, and even if they do, the chance for retaliation is slim.
"In the [pre-Internet era], you had to take ownership [of your remarks]. Now there's a perception of anonymity," said Lesley Withers, a professor of communication at Central Michigan University. "People think what they say won't have repercussions, and they don't think they have to soften their comments."
Contrast that with a face-to-face conversation, or even a phone conversation, where you can judge people's moods from facial movements or vocal inflections, observes University of Texas psychology professor Art Markman.
"It's hard to be aggressive when you're face to face," he said.
Moreover, he points out, aggression often carries a subtext of power.
"A lot of times, real anger is an attempt to get control over a situation where the person doesn't usually have it," he said. In that respect, comments to blog posts are attempts to strike back.
Those power games are innately grasped by children and teens, with schools serving as a perennial social laboratory.
Cheryl Dellasega, a Penn State women's studies professor, ticks off hypothetical examples that could have come straight from the scripts to "Mean Girls" or "Heathers."
"Girls who are getting teased come home and let their [aggressors] have it by putting something on their blog and starting a rumor campaign," she said. And instead of rumors simply making the rounds among peer groups -- which can be bad enough -- "they go out to a much bigger group, a worldwide group. The impact is devastating, and it's as easy as clicking a button."
"Kids don't realize that one post can destroy somebody's life forever," she added.
Indeed, such incidents have made headlines. In 2006, 13-year-old Megan Meier committed suicide after becoming attracted to a boy on MySpace who then turned on her. The boy turned out to be a hoax created by a neighbor family that included a former friend of Meier's.
In August, The New York Times Magazine did a story about trolls, some barely out of their teens, who antagonize others for the sake of "lulz": "Lulz is watching someone lose their mind at their computer 2,000 miles away while you chat with friends and laugh," one ex-troll told the publication.
Adults aren't immune by any means. A Japanese woman, angry at her online "husband," killed his avatar after he divorced her. A South Korean actress committed suicide after being harassed by online rumors following a divorce. Celebrity gossip sites are full of snarky comments about stars; reaction from readers is often brutal, turning the story into the online equivalent of a pile-on.
Markman is quick to observe that he doesn't believe there's more anger out there. But, he said, "there are more ways of expressing it on the Internet."
"We've all had interactions with unpleasant people, but we don't confront them. We take it out elsewhere," he said. "What the Internet has created is groups of people where there are no repercussions with being too aggressive."
Indeed, though electronically transmitted anger has parallels throughout human history -- the bitter letter, the village gossip -- the speed at which it travels, and the number of people who may come in contact with it, is something new, says St. Joseph's Black.
"[Electronic] media can increase potential for violence in a number of ways," she said in an e-mail interview. "First, it introduces ideas (good and bad) that people may not have come up with on their own. Second, it is easier to depersonalize the victim, facilitating perpetration. Third, aggressive behaviors may be reinforced with points, attention or status, especially in games."
Withers has seen that first hand. She teaches a course on the "dark side of communication" at Central Michigan, involving "the mean or evil things we do on a day-to-day basis," as she describes it: cheating, for example, or lying.
As part of the course, several of her students work on a collaborative project with students at other schools, and they come together in Second Life, the virtual reality environment. If someone isn't pulling his or her weight, says Withers, others can be harsh in their judgments -- harsher than in real life, because the anger is expressed at the person's avatar.
Which led at least one of Withers' students to forget that the avatar was attached to a real person.
"One student went off on another student and she was sitting in the classroom a few rows behind him," she said. "He knew she was there, but didn't -- there was that distancing."
Is there a way to restore civility to the Internet? Among children and teenagers, say Dellasega and Black, it's up to parents to exercise control.
"I think parents need to take responsibility," Dellasega said. "They give kids computers and leave them alone. ... When a child is 8 or 9, the computer should be in a public place. Kids should understand that using a computer is a privilege, not a right."
Schools can also play a role, she says.
Black adds that parents should set clear rules on behavior and build empathy in their kids by having them reach out to those who are different.
As for adults, human nature dictates that people will always lash out at others, whether it's over a perceived insult or simply because of a power differential. Web sites may ban the worst offenders, but they'll almost always pop up elsewhere, using a different name, e-mail address or even computer.
"Some people are just bitter and angry," said psychiatrist Dr. Terry Eagan, medical director of the Moonview Sanctuary in Santa Monica, California. "Sometimes, they're against everyone, other times against a specific group. That person can get really stimulated and can say all sorts of horrible things. But I don't think it's not like they didn't exist before."
Whether the problem will get control of us, or we will get control of the problem, is in the way we face up to it, he says. Anger, he says, is rolled up with anxiety and fear, and nothing creates more fear like a lack of understanding.
"I tell patients that I'd rather know everything about people; information is powerful," he said. "When the climate of the world is more fear-based, it permeates everything."
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Nov 03, 2008 3:50:20 PM CST
Well, I still say Clinton turned out to be an a-hole
by hawaiian organ donor
But look at the country after 8 years under Bubba compared to 8 years of Bush and 8 years of Reagan. I think it's safe to say with a Democrat in the White House we'll probably do better.
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First Terence Tolbert, Obama's Nevada state director, and now Toot?! Fuck!!!!!
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I said they are no worse than the Dems. And don't you dare disrespect the mullet! When he wins tomorrow, I wonder if Obama is going to make his illegal aunt the Poet Laureate? He should at least send his impoverished brother in Kenya a gift basket from Harry & David. That way he could sleep in the cardboard shipping box.
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Hahaha. You bastard. I hate you-- but you're funny sometimes. And I only respect the mullet hanging on the head of the Great Kurt.
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He was blowned up in a banmine!!!
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I hope he'll hang on to see the election results. Actually, I wish he'd hang on a lot longer than that. Great guy!
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Nov 03, 2008 3:57:30 PM CST
IF I EVER SEE TUCKER BOUNDS I'M GONNA CURB STOMP HIS SKULL
by bringingsexyback
He just said it was a good thing Toot wouldn't see Obama lose. Fucking McKKKain and his gang go to HELL
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Lord knows I don't like either side. I just think Obama's better to make fun of because he is so irrationally beloved right now. I kinda have a feeling things will change by the time he runs for re-election in a year and a half.
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Nov 03, 2008 4:01:17 PM CST
the saddest death this year was Kevin Smith's career....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
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That's terrible. Fuck man, a day before the election. R.I.P Madelyn Dunham
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That's no better than people calling Obama an Arab or a Muslim or some other bullshit. Is McCain a member of the Klan? I don't think so. He's not some damn Grand Wizard or something like David Duke was. McCain is just an angry old white man. You just come across as a real zealot with Obama-juice bukkaked all over his face, BSB. I wonder if you'll be one of the ones who shits all over Obama when he starts breaking his promises? Or flipping over cars and lighting them on fire if he loses? Lighten up, man. Or you'll end up popping a clot like Big Ted Kennedy or Joe Biden.
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Because unless Obama starts another THREE intractable Wars and is in charge when another TWO Economic Cataclysms gut the Economy plunging it into Recession then he's gonna be a damn sight better than Bush and the NeoCon Republicans have been over the past 8 years.
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Thats very true. Everyone is saying the expectations of him will be so incredibly high. But really-- you hit it right, he doesn't have to do much to end up a better President than Bush. Its very easy-- just DON'T FUCK THINGS UP.
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make them better, don't you think people are going to feel as sore as a rented mule on Monday?
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ends because Palin is running for President in 2012. May God help us all.
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(CNN)—With just over a day before polls start to close, Vice President Dick Cheney's hometown newspaper named their presidential pick — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama.
"It is a foregone conclusion that Wyoming's three electoral votes will go to Sen. John McCain. It would be easy for the Star-Tribune to simply agree with the majority of voters in this red state and endorse the Republican candidate for president," the Editorial Board of Wyoming's Casper Star-Tribune wrote Monday.
"But this isn't an ordinary election, and Sen. Barack Obama has the potential to be an extraordinary leader at a time we desperately need one."
The board goes on to commend Obama's judgement, criticizing McCain's conduct during his campaign and choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate.
"If the John McCain of 2000 saw today's counterpart, he wouldn't recognize himself," the Board wrote. "McCain is no longer a GOP maverick, or the war hero whose principles were unwavering. He has flip-flopped on issues ranging from tax cuts to torture in an effort to win over the conservative base of his party. He has waged a dismal campaign based on fear and divisiveness."
Cheney formally endorsed McCain Saturday, while at an event in Laramie, Wyoming.
"This year, of course, I'm not on the ballot, so I am here … not to vote for me, but I want to join daughter Liz, who is with me today, join us in casting … our ballots for John McCain and Sarah Palin," Cheney said.
Obama quickly seized the moment as another opportunity to tie McCain to the Bush presidency.
"I'd like to congratulate Sen. McCain on this endorsement, because he really earned it. That endorsement didn't come easy," Obama said at the Pueblo rally.
He added that Cheney "knows that with John McCain, you get a twofer: George Bush's economic policy and Dick Cheney's foreign policy. And that is a risk the American people cannot afford to take."
Echoing Obama’s latest campaign ad, the Star-Tribune’s editorial board commended him for receiving endorsements from "extremely capable leaders."
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*sigh*
I wish that I could destroy Coughlin's life forever...That'd be so COOL. Especially if it was that EASY.
Okay, I'm serious here - does anybody here have a problem with my posting my setlists on these TB's?
Wrong topic? Too Self-Pimpin'? Just say the word...
My condolences to Senator Obama and his family.
I haven't had a gramma in forty years, and I miss 'em...
Meanwhile....WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/11/03/dnt.nh.playboy.animal.cruelty.wmur
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Blame it on the mullet, but how are we involved in three wars right now? The War on Terror, The War on Drugs and The War on Arithmetic?
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No. I don't think so. He may let some down. Of course he won't be able to be the Savior everyone wants. He will have to cut a lot of his proposed ideas. But he will do some good his first term. Progress will be slow because he will have to fix so much shit. But some progress will be made and I have a feeling he'll go down as a great first term leader for such an supposed inexperienced guy.
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that's as high as they could count!
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nothing racist about that McCain comment.... I guess it's ok to just stir up racist fears and religious zealots to the point people actually believe we will become a Muslim/socialist/anti-America state under "Hussein". I guess it's only racist if if he drops the n-bomb...
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Post whatever the fuck you want.
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"I'll always hate the GOOKS."
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That'll make him look as shitty as Bush. You know he isn't going to decide not to respond to an attack because it would kill him with the majority of Americans. Whether you want to admit it or not, if when America is attacked, the vast majority wants an action hero as president, not the head of the chess club or the debate society.
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"just say no"
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....SLAM intelligence. I love how the GOP have somehow convinced their worshippers that intelligence is a bad thing in public office. I guess that sounds good if you can barely write your own name. Don't want no Nigger thinkin' he be smart err than us I reckon.
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Nov 03, 2008 4:22:27 PM CST
DGDB- I thjink he was misquoted, it wasn't Gooks he hated
by irrelevntelefant
it was 'Goonies', the movie. Too left leaning with it's happy ending.
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GOD DAMN KIDS ALWAYS FIND THE TREASURE!! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN YOOOOOOOOOU JIMMY CARTER!!!!!
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Nov 03, 2008 4:25:36 PM CST
If he was answering cries that Obama was an Arab, then
by snake foreskin
what should he have said? I heard that clip. There were people in that audience calling Obama an Arab. McCain was defending Obama. Don't be an asshole! That's like accusing Obama for hating whites for saying, "I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator". You guys are so effing dumb sometimes!
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for years to happen in 2009 regardless of who gets elected. It's a no brainer that something is going to happen.
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Nov 03, 2008 4:28:49 PM CST
I'm just tryin' to get some opinions...
by half-baked-goggle-box-do-gooder
...from some peers in here. Some of you are discerning and smart, and I'm always on the lookout for constructive criticism.
Last night's set:
"A Few Words In Defense Of Our Country", Randy Newman
"Looking For A Leader". Neil Young
"Borrow Your Cape", Bobby Bare Jr's Young Criminal's Starvation League
"Born In The USA", live solo acoustic version, Bruce Springsteen
"Hard Times In America", Willie Nile
"Volunteers", live, the Jefferson Airplane
"Government Cheese", the Rainmakers
"Christ For President" (Woody Guthrie), Billy Bragg & Wilco
"Gimme Some Truth" (John Lennon), Sam Phillips
"Short Memory", Midnight Oil
"Democracy", Leonard Cohen
"Something Broken In The Promised Land", Wayne Kramer
"Not Great Men", live, the Gang of Four
"Everything Is Broken" (alternate version), Bob Dylan
For Mr. Obama's appeal to the electorate...
"Try Me" (James Brown), Los Lobos
"Stay Positive", the Hold Steady
In case he wins...
"Wang Dang Doodle" (Howlin' Wolf), the Hindu Love Gods
"A Change Is Gonna Come" (Sam Cooke), the Neville Brothers
"The New World", X
"Boots Of Chinese Plastic", the Pretenders
"The Ghost Of Tom Joad", live, Bruce Springsteen & Tom Morello
"This Mess We're In", PJ Harvey & Thom Yorke
Album of the Week: Bob Dylan, "The Times They Are A'Changin'"
For Mr. MCain...
"Fortunate Son" (CCR), live, the Dropkick Murphys
"Welcome To The Jungle" (Guns'N'Roses), Richard Cheese
For McCain & the GOP's tactics:
"Hate And War", the Clash
"Fear Is A Man's Best Friend", John Cale
"You're A Whole Different Person When You're Scared", Warren Zevon
"Morons", Ian Hunter
"Politician", live, Cream
"The Devil Is My Running Mate", Jason Isbell
"Election Day", the Replacements
"One Day As A Lion", One Day As A Lion
"Won't Get Fooled Again", live, the Who
I'm not sure if this is the same as pimping a commercial website; I work as an unpaid volunteer at a non-commercial station, and I frequently get away with murder, and I'm always ready for feedback...
Thanks, everybody...
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I don't believe McCain meant "No he is decent family man," as a slam on Arabs. After thinking about it I laughed, thinking-- what you can't be an Arab and a decent family man? But I don't think thats what McCain meant. He was just countering the crazy white bitch's accusation that an Arab basically meant a TERRORIST. So he was responding more to the accusation that he was a terrorist instead of a person of Arabic decent. I know-- it seems a little hokey, but I never once thought that was a racist moment. Though he does have many others that really are.
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Is a great great pic. They have actually been playing that every morning on Air America.
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Now if only they could have gotten Hammond to do his Chris Matthews. His gay for Obama act is comedy gold I tell ya. I do find it odd that they had only one Bill O'Reilly sketch and that was five or six years ago. It was dead on by way. I kind of wonder why they haven't done a Sean Hannity sketch. The guy is ripe for parody and it's not like no one has ever heard of him. Just have him, Olberman, and Anderson Cooper battle it out over who has the most perfect hair and put a very confused James Carvill in the middle of it.
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You think FDR wasn't an action hero? He was an action hero in a wheelchair! Now that's badass! I am not saying intelligence is a bad thing. Far from it. I think Bush was about as stupid as they come, and it showed in almost every speech he gave. But we needed a strong leader willing to commit to action shortly after 9/11, and he did so brilliantly. He screwed up by becoming overzealous and overreaching in his subsequent actions. Americans got rid of Jimmy Carter in part because he wasn't willing to slam the hammer down on the Iranians holding our countrymen hostage. Carter was by all accounts a very bright guy - a nuclear physicist - but he lacked the gumption the country so desperately needed when our nose had been bloodied. Please don't misunderstand me, I want a President who is a really smart guy. Education is very important. But so is grit and resolve. There is a desire in most Americans for an Action Hero as their President. Americans don't like wimps. I bet you don't either.
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"he's not an Arab, he's a decent good person". IT IMPLIES THAT THERE ARE NO GOOD, DECENT ARAB PEOPLE! THAT BEING AN ARAB AND BEING A GOOD PERSON ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE!. how is that being an asshole?
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I understand what you're saying. And by all accounts Obama is far from a wimp. As a Junior Senator many old timers tried to muscle him and he wouldn't budge. He has the confidence and the determination. That is the greatest strength there is.
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What is the point of getting up in arms about something that hasn't even happened? I swear I've read three or four things lately criticizing rioters that don't even exist. Save it for the Stanley Cup Finals, you paranoid freaks.
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Sgt Al Powell for VP!
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Just come clean man. You're voting Obama tomorrow right? You understand we need real change in Washington. Thanks for your support and GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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Awesome! But how is it that things came out so perfectly equal? It's like some wonderful fairy tale ... oh, wait.
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Nov 03, 2008 4:47:53 PM CST
Afghanistan ? Iraq ? Ringing no bells at all ??? Cryosleep it is
by g100
Those are the TWO intractable Wars I presumed everyone knew about. So Obama would have to start THREE to be worse than Bush. See ? Not that complicated to grasp.
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Then there would be three going on at once. Even if he pulls us out of Iraq, he intends on staying in Afghanistan for the foreseeable future. So that's one intractable war. And now that it seems clear he's going to start a War Against Wealth and Capitalism, and with the Dems gaining seats in both houses of Congress, that looks to be am intractable war, too. So how exactly is he going to be better? Dude, I hate to break it to you, but change isn't always a good thing! Granted, Bush sucks and good riddance to bad rubbish, but you think Obama and his Dems in Congress are going to make all your owies go away? By the way, what are your owies?
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I am taking my mullet for a much-deserved beer milshake.
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Nov 03, 2008 5:14:41 PM CST
I think you'll find the Banks already started the War against th
by g100
By their unbridled Greed and Incompetence in bundling Bad Credit of all kinds into HUGELY profitable Securites (the Credit Default Swaps and Collateralized Debt Obligations) that made them a fortune in Bonuses but sadly took out the entire Economy because they were little more than shit masquerading as Gold. It is THEY who have made a mockery of the free market by begging the Government to Bail them out with at least a TRILLION Taxpayer Dollars and Nationalize the Banks.
Bush started both Wars. Those are the Facts. So Obama would need to START THREE to be worse. Seriously, you need that explained ?
And you actually said "But we needed a strong leader willing to commit to action shortly after 9/11, and he did so brilliantly." Now this may also be News to you since your Cryosleep, but Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11 and the War in Afghanisatn was intended to bring him to justice. It hasn't. The Taliban were overthrown but after all the deaths and chaos in Afghanistan we now have President Karzai desperately trying to NEGOTIATE with the Taliban along with the Coalition Forces on the ground.
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by Rage Against the Machine, might be the tune to come true.
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Too bad you didn't add these to the playlist:
"Politics" The Damned
"Voting with a Bullet" Corrosion of Conformityand..should McCain win.."I'm so bored of the USA" The Clash. -
If the media doesn't scrutinize him, and we have an incomplete picture of him, how do we know the pictue Obama's campaign gives us, the image they try to paint, how do we know it is accurate? The major media has done a misservice to the public. The scrutinize and attack the VICE PRESIDENT of one party, they scrutinize an average middle class citizen, but the major media does not scrutinize Obama. Where was the investigative reporting on Ayers? About Wright? About his numerous communist connections? About his extremist pro abortion stance? The LA Times refusal to release the video described below is just another example of how the media has failed us.
How can we vote for someone and not know who he really is?
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The Los Angeles Times says "its promise to their source prevents the paper from publically posting the video, which shows Barack Obama praising Palestinian activist Rashid Khalidi at a 2003 banquet.
The original article, which first appeared in April, said that Obama's friendships with Palestinians in Chicago AND his presence at key Palestinian community events had exposed why he seems sympathetic to the Palestinian viewpoints on Middle East politics. The report included a detailed description of the tape, but the newspaper did not make the video public.
John McCain's presidential campaign Tuesday accused the Los Angeles Times of "intentionally suppressing" a videotape it obtained of a 2003 banquet where then-state Sen. Barack Obama spoke of his friendship with Rashid Khalidi, a leading (PLO) Palestinian scholar and activist.
"A major news organization is intentionally suppressing information that could provide a clearer link between Barack Obama and Rashid Khalidi," said McCains campaign spokesman. " . . .
The election is one week away, and it's unfortunate that the press so obviously favors Barack Obama, that this campaign must publicly request that the Los Angeles Times do its job -- and make public information PUBLIC.
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The LA Times just issued this statement. "The Los Angeles Times did not publish the videotape because it was provided to us by a confidential source who did so on the condition that we not release it," said the newspaper's editor, Russ Stanton.
Note: I just called them *wink*, and if you hit option #5 "Editorial", the call will just hang up. BUT, I called back *shrug* and pressed option #3 "Display Advertising".... you'll get an actual live person *wink wink*.
I simply, (& GRACIOUSLY I might add) said "I strongly ask that your paper NO LONGER intentionally suppress information that could provide a clearer link between Barack Obama and Rashid Khalidi.
Is there anyone in management I can speak to, hun?"
The gal replied, (verbatim) "ohh, this is like the hundredth call I've gotten like this, one second please." A man then picked up and I repeated my simple request. He mumbled something incoherent & automatically connected me to a recording.
Oh, I almost forgot....here's the numba. *wink wink* It takes but a nano-second to call. Just sayen.
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"....my point is that there is so much dirt on Obama that he has lied about and later forced to admitted to - how in the heck has he gotten this far?! It makes you wonder just who is pulling strings here.
Read on.....
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Thnx: keith
Date: Oct 29, 2008 12:33 PM
RE: And the dirty Obama campaigning continues.
There's no telling where these contributions originate from in most cases,and Obama likes it that way,he doesn't want you to know how much is pouring in from Muslim nations.
Obama has been mentored by so many unscrupulous characters,Frank Marshall Davis,( an America hating member of the Communist Party USA),
Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn(of the "weathermen underground,that bombed federal buildings in the 60's and 70's),Rev. Jeremiah Wright(another racist America hater,that said"God damn America),Tony Rezko(slum landlord,who helped Obama purchase his Chicago mansion,he was also indicted,and convicted on charges he solicited kickbacks from companies seeking state pension business under his friend Gov. Blagojevich. Federal prosecutors maintain that $10,000 from the alleged kickback scheme was donated to Obama's run for the U.S. Senate. ).
And the list goes on,I might elaborate more on it later when I have time....my point is that there is so much dirt on Obama that he has lied about and later admitted to -how in the heck has he gotten this far?!.....It makes you wonder just who is pulling the strings here.
All I can say is,if he's elected it could be the beginning of the end for our nation.
Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations:
Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign is allowing donors to use largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor's identity, campaign officials confirmed.
Faced with a huge influx of donations over the Internet, the campaign has also chosen not to use basic security measures to prevent potentially illegal or anonymous contributions from flowing into its accounts, aides acknowledged. Instead, the campaign is scrutinizing its books for improper donations after the money has been deposited.
The Obama organization said its extensive review has ensured that the campaign has refunded any improper contributions, and noted that Federal Election Commission rules do not require front-end screening of donations.
In recent weeks, questionable contributions have created headaches for Obama's accounting team as it has tried to explain why campaign finance filings have included itemized donations from individuals using fake names, such as Es Esh or Doodad Pro. Those revelations prompted conservative bloggers to further test Obama's finance vetting by giving money using the kind of prepaid cards that can be bought at a drugstore and cannot be traced to a donor.
The problem with such cards, campaign finance lawyers said, is that they make it impossible to tell whether foreign nationals, donors who have exceeded the limits, government contractors or others who are barred from giving to a federal campaign are making contributions.
"They have opened the floodgates to all this money coming in," said Sean Cairncross, chief counsel to the Republican National Committee. "I think they've made the determination that whatever money they have to refund on the back end doesn't outweigh the benefit of taking all this money upfront.
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The Obama campaign has shattered presidential fundraising records, in part by capitalizing on the ease of online giving. Of the $150 million the senator from Illinois raised in September, nearly $100 million came in over the Internet.
Lawyers for the Obama operation said yesterday that their "extensive back-end review" has carefully scrubbed contributions to prevent illegal money from entering the operation's war chest. "I'm pretty sure if I took my error rate and matched it against any other campaign or comparable nonprofit, you'd find we're doing very well," said Robert Bauer, a lawyer for the campaign. "I have not seen the McCain compliance staff ascending to heaven on a cloud.
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The Obama team's disclosures came in response to questions from The Washington Post about the case of Mary T. Biskup, a retired insurance manager from Manchester, Mo., who turned up on Obama's FEC reports as having donated $174,800 to the campaign. Contributors are limited to giving $2,300 for the general election.
Biskup, who had scores of Obama contributions attributed to her, said in an interview that she never donated to the candidate. "That's an error," she said. Moreover, she added, her credit card was never billed for the donations, meaning someone appropriated her name and made the contributions with another card.
When asked whether the campaign takes steps to verify whether a donor's name matches the name on the credit card used to make a payment, Obama's campaign replied in an e-mail: "Name-matching is not a standard check conducted or made available in the credit card processing industry. We believe Visa and MasterCard do not even have the ability to do this.
"Instead, the campaign does a rigorous comprehensive analysis of online contributions on the back end of the transaction to determine whether a contribution is legitimate.
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Juan Proaño, whose technology firm handled online contributions for John Edwards's presidential primary campaign, and for John F. Kerry's presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee in 2004, said it is possible to require donors' names and addresses to match those on their credit card accounts. But, he said, some campaigns are reluctant to impose that extra layer of security.
"Honestly, you want to have the least amount of hurdles in processing contributions quickly," Proaño said.
Sen. John McCain's campaign has also had questionable donations slip through.
Dan Pfeiffer, Obama's communication's director, said that "no organization can fully insulate itself from these problems. The McCain campaign has accepted contributions from fraudulent contributors like 'A for You,' 'Adorable Manabat,' 'The Gun Shop,' and 'Jesus II' and hundreds of anonymous donors.
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But R. Rebecca Donatelli, who handles online contributions for the McCain operation and the RNC, said security measures have been standard in the GOP nominee's fundraising efforts throughout the campaign. She said she was "flabbergasted" to learn that the Obama campaign accepts prepaid cards.
"Yes, a gift card would go through the same process as a regular credit card and be subject to our same back-end review," the Obama campaign said in its response to questions about the use of such cards.
Campaign finance lawyers said there is a long history of debate within the FEC about how to ensure that donors use their own credit cards.
Election lawyer Brett Kappel said the FEC has never grappled with the question of cash cards. "The whole system is set up for them to accept the payment, then determine whether it is legal or not. And if it's not, send it back.
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Here, let me save you the bother of wading through it.
It's the Medias Fault! More Obama smears by association. Campaign finance whining. blah blah blah etc.
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Holy... fuckin... wow... just... wow, okay, okay, Christians, I believe you now -- THIS IS THE END TIMES AS PORTRAYED IN THE LOST BOOKS OF REVELATION!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! HIDE THINE DAUGHTERS FROM THE DEMONIC OXEN HORDES!!! BLLEEAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!! That anyone would think to create such a thing, that anyone would want to own it... *gag* surely these are signs of the inevitable End Of Days.
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What's amazing is he did put ONE paragraph break in there but didn't see fit to put anymore. It makes it that much more difficult to wade through a bunch of unproven/disproven bullshit.
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...One Day As A Lion is Zack de la Rocha's solo ep with the Mars Volta's drummer. I wanted to use some of RATM's Minneapolis footage, but the only stuff I could find was shitty phonecam stuff on YouTube.
I DID put Tom Morello in there with the Boss...
I'd like to play more RATM, but they fuckin' cuss so much, and I just ain't that quick on the "edit" switch..Our GM is scared shitless of the FCC as it is....
Stalkeye, "Politics " WAS on the list of possibilities, but I ran outta time. There were another two dozen songs that might get used some other time...I pretty much wing the entire show, going with the flow, sometimes picking the next songs with only seconds to spare, and I always bring more than I have time to actually play - as a tiny listener-supported joint, we HAVE no "Library" - almost all of the music we play is from our own private collections.
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Nov 03, 2008 6:20:19 PM CST
"I'm a Maverick, I'm a Republican without campaign money"
by irrelevntelefant
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Fight the power
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"bankrupt" coal companies, putting thousands out of work, he has guranteed losing Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, and West Virginia. This guy is a complete idiot. By admitting socialism 2 weeks ago and hi stupid and scary comment about bankrupting coal-mining companies, he has cost himself the election. McCain is back on top in Florida, is tied in Pennsylvania, ahead in Ohio, and surging in Virginia. It's all about momentum and McCain has it where it matters. Obama's in for a LONG night tomorrow!!! I can't wait to rub in your faces, either...
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Nov 03, 2008 6:31:09 PM CST
My final predicitons. McCain will hold every Red State
by coughlins laws
except for New Mexico, and picks up Pennsylvania and Minnesota, maybe New Hampshire, too. Obama wins only one Red State, and loses 3 Kerry/Gore States...
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Against all my hopes, I'm still putting together a Loser's Club list...Gotta keep the head up and keep goin', y'know...
Plus, it gives me time to start assembling a "They Cheated" / "Guilty Guilty Guilty" list, too....Hell, I played "Let's Impeach The President", just a few months ago. It would take at least a couple of months for a big enough shit snowball to build if there was sufficient evidence of GOP vote tampering. -
Nov 03, 2008 6:34:05 PM CST
Y'know, "I'm So Bored With The USA"...
by half-baked-goggle-box-do-gooder
...is about the crappiness of American television? That's all...
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I'm just as tired of reading my long-ass posts as anyone else on here. Thanks!
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and what will you do if Obama wins but McKKKain steals it from him and takes the presidency?
There will be riots in the streets.
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Where are you DJ-ing?
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up by 5 to 10, have McCain leading in Florida, now. Sorry, but there's no way that Obama wins Florida. FYI, McCain's rally was at 9am and unlike most Democrats, Republicans have jobs...
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Will you guys refuse to admit that it's possible Obama might not be able to seal the deal with the American people without there being widespread voter fraud in favor of the GOP?
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... no ever replies to your shit-kicker-racially-tinged attempts at low humor?
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not tomorrow, but I'll be here on Wednesday, win, lose, or draw. This won't be a blowout. We might no know until the next morning who won. I predict that some states in the east will swap, (Penn and Minn to McCain, Vriginia maybe to Obama) and the election will be decided by Colorado and New Mexico. If there's enough illegal immigrants voting in those states, Obama wins. However, I'm more sure than ever that McCain wins Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida...
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Nov 03, 2008 6:41:27 PM CST
What if a bunny flies out of my ass with an assault rifle...
by irrelevntelefant
let's just see what happens tomorrow. either way the talk back should be fun...
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Nov 03, 2008 6:43:08 PM CST
I think Obama will win, but it will be because a lot of
by snake foreskin
conservatives sat on their hands rather than vote for a guy they didn't like. McCain isn't very conservative himself and choosing Palin as his running mate didn't have the intended consequence of shoring up the Conservative base. So we may see a close election with Obama on top but no real mandate. Of course he's ahead in the polls. His supporters are batshit crazy for him. Look at BSB and Danny and others on here. They practically said he is their savior. That's just not healthy. It's immature for one. And it's going to lead to depression and disillusionment when he doesn't live up to the incredibly high standards being set by his side. I think they should play Jesus Christ Superstar as his acceptance music. Unbelievable.
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We are all going to get very bored very quickly with Anchors and pundits using touchscreens and "magical" interactive 3D graphics tomorrow night.
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thousands of illegal voter Registrations and multiple registrations favoring Democrats, they'll still believe the Republicans stole the election. 99% of the voter fraud that we know about in the last week (people voting multiple times in multiple states, people living in New York voting in Ohio, homeless giving their park bench as addresses) are ALL voting Obama. Somehow, Republicans get blamed for stealing elections, even though there is ZERO EVIDENCE of this...
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Its safe to predict that obama is gonna spank McCain tomorrow. If the dems are really lucky they'll get an unusually high democratic turnout and get the the 60 senate seats they need to push through important legislation and fix the economy. The dems need to show some balls and establish a Manahattan Project for an alternative source of energy. We definitely have enough talented scientists to do something like this we just need to get them all in one place and give them the financial backing they need.
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forget to show up for work for an entire year. Let 'em keep their salaries. Just don't bother coming in, okay? We'll all be better off!
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What really kills me is all of these pundits acting like the election is over. They continue to make themselves into fools time and time again. They were wrong countless times this primary season, were wrong in 2004, and wrong in 2000. Just hold off and wait to see what happens. If you want to believe some of these polls like the CBS poll (which was 8 points off in 2004, they had Kerry ahead by by almost 5 points and he lost by almost 4), fine. Believe Obama's gonna win. But don't start dancing on the other guys grave when there are still over 120 million people who haven't voted yet. It's just asinine. I'm going to look like an idiot if all you guys are right and Obama blows out McCain (which won't happen) but I'm not on TV and don't have to worry about my credibility, if and when I'm proven horribly wrong...
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Nov 03, 2008 6:52:11 PM CST
The GOP suppressing minorities votes should even it all out
by irrelevntelefant
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... despicable waste of human fats and fluids bigot asshole dickhead motherfucker! I'd like to make you eat that fucking mullet you keep blathering about. That comment about Obama's grandmother was UNACCEPTABLE even on so tolerant a board as AICN, you bigot piece of shit. BAN THIS RACIST SHITSTAIN MOTHERFUCKER *NOW* HERC!
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There are about 120 million people yet to vote. Are you telling me that you don't even have a hint of doubt? You realize all of these polls with Obama ahead assume that the Dem edge over Repbulicans are about 40% Dem to 30% Rep, right? They are assuming that every single new Democrat will show up to vote. Well, I've got news for you. The most unreliable voting bloc every single cycle is young people. If the youth vote doesn't come out like they think it will, Obama can't win. He is tied or is losing in very other age group. So, get cocky if you want. But just remember, if the same Rep to Dem split that happenned in 2004 happens this year, Dems and Reps about even, McCain wins by 3 or 4 points. It's all about turn-out which the Republicans have been great at the last decade and that the Democrats just haven't been doing...
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of "fake America"
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Nov 03, 2008 7:02:55 PM CST
irrelevnt, you're really going to watch elction returns
by coughlins laws
on Comedy Central? I thought you wanted to be a serious person? Is this your main source of news? An ultra-liberal and a guy who makes fun of a conservative (he isn't really one, anyway)? Wow. You, my son, are a fool!!!
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... It's the Coughdrop ShortBus special pullin' into the station, yoooou betcha. Go on, dazzle us troglodyte.
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But if Obama DOES take it then that there is a harbinger of a pretty damn convincing win.
And don't confuse my scorn for the flashy graphics and over the top punditry (they have fucking HOURS to fill with Lunatic extrapolations after all) for a complete dismissal of the polls.
I don't think they are all wildly wrong, trends and an overall patttern can always be seen just not with pinpoint accuracy. Though some of the Polls clearly ARE wrong. (they can't ALL be right) but the kicker is McCain still takes enough of them deadly seriously, particularly the State by States, or he wouldn't have been campaigning so hard in previously safe Republican strongholds. -
when u honestly examine the facts, things look good for Obama. When i checked gallup yesterday they had Obama up by eight points among traditional voters, thats a good sized lead and gallup is a respectable polling source. Obama's a much bigger threat in traditionally red states than McCain is in traditionally blue ones. McCain's on defense.
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and i'm listening to pollsters on PBS say the voting will be evenly split tomorrow.
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But the result numbers will be the same whether you watch Fox, CNN, CNBC, CBS or Oxygen... What difference does it make who's reporting the results. gee, I like to watch people who are funny say funny stuff and make fun of the bullshit in the world. I am such a fool...
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Nov 03, 2008 7:12:35 PM CST
Let me guess, Cough, you'll be watching unbiased FoxNews?
by irrelevntelefant
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Predictions are its going to be close, I think its going to be an unexpected landslide victory for Obama.
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Nov 03, 2008 7:15:56 PM CST
Republicans may not join dems in their victory celebration, but
by crazybubba
the rest of the world will. A gallup poll of 70 countries shows that other nations want Obama to win at a 4:1 ratio. "The shot heard round the world"--The Rebirth.
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You're going to have at least 4 more years of hate and venom to spew, and this time at a black man! You should be in heaven now. You're not going to win the election, but think of all the hate you can vomit on right wing talk radio and tv (Fox) for at least the next four years when Obama takes the White House.
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Nov 03, 2008 7:16:13 PM CST
DON'T GET COCKY!!!! VOTE EARLY AND GRAB YOUR FRIENDS
by bringingsexyback
except for Coughlins who has none, we'll make a difference. Do it for Toot! We'll do it for Toot!!
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Registration fraud CANNOT effect the election. Voter fraud can. You can fill out 20 applications with names like Jesus Titty Fucking Christ, Uncle Scam, Steaming Dickly, Vag Hole...etc.
The next step is they have to match the address given with the name. And even if they located Vag Hole with the proper address, that person has to actually vote. That represents 1 fucking vote, like it should. If that voter votes again under a different name then that's voter fraud.
All those apps that have fake names won't count because they can't verify them. Do your home work and take your dad's dick out of your mouth before you say stupid shit.
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Nov 03, 2008 7:18:20 PM CST
Rather should co-host with Tiki "states the obvious" Barber
by irrelevntelefant
Tiki : "What it's going to come down to Dan, what people are overlooking, is that the candidate that wins the election will be the winner, and the candidate that loses, well he won't win."
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http://tinyurl.com/6a2d9l
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Like Obama himself, it fills me with hope ... the gambling and predictions markets are favoring Obama.
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Believe or not I actually do have an Uncle named Jesus Titty Fucking Christ. I bet they always look at him like he's trying to pull some scam when he shows up to vote.
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I fucking hate SNL.
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A woman on her way home from the market was carrying a duck. A drunk staggered up to her and said ,"Hey! where'd ja get the pig?" The woman replied," You drunken fool, that's no pig -- it's a duck!" And the drunk said," Quiet you bitch, I was talking to the duck."
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iverson. He's poison to team chemistry. I think its over for the motor city dynasty.
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... of fear over substance. Who'd 'a thunk it? You are pathetic man, and oh so predictable.
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... are in full tilt panic mode. You can positively SMELL the fear.
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thousands of votes will fall through Uncle Sam's crack. People not getting their absentee ballots on time, computer failures, registration glitches, voter fatigue standing in line in shitty weather trying to hold up their 300lb asses for 10 hours.
We can land a probe on an asteroid , GPS to 1 foot accuracy, and plan on detecting gravitational waves from a parallel universe but we don't know how to take a vote then how to count a vote.
Voting should be over a 2 week period by phone, mail, internet, and in person. Everyone has a voter number and has to have confirmation before they are done. Fuck, the lottery commission has no problem keeping track of millions of bets per day, every fucking day.
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the answer is fairly simple, actually. Even though I can recognize when he goes over the top and for that can appreciate some skewering, Olbermann often speaks truth when ranting eloquently at length at the conservatives who are ruining this country with their empty-headed, insular big government elitist class socialism and for the most part I say good on him they need to get some verbal lacerating.
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S: I'm at a tiny-ass commercial-free radio station - it's my weekend fun gig, instead of my Monday-Friday job that pays the bills. The station is just a little way of giving back to the local artistic community, such as it is. Neither I nor any of the other dj's get paid - it's all strictly volunteer.
(Oh, by the way - FUCK You Coughlin, you lame-ass Welfare Queen cocksucker. I've been working 9-to-5 longer than you've been jerking off bus station winos for horse racing tips. I'd bet the only thing you regularly volunteer is your daughter's ass to any GOP ward-heeler that can't come up with the cash for the lunch bill at your roadkill taco stand.)
L: Actually, I once read an interview with Joe Strummer saying, "Yeah, that's pretty much what it's about." - like Elvis Costello's "Watching The Detectives". -
What's the only drink that can get a girl pregnant? A Squirt & Cider
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A blond police woman pulls over a blond female driver.
"Sorry, but you were speeding back there and I'll need to see your license and registration please".
"What's a license?". As she's fumbling through her purse.
"It’s a small square/rectangular thing with your picture on it".
"Oh, here it is". As she hands the cop a small pocket mirror.
"I'm sorry, you can go now. I didn't know that you were a cop".
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My Grandpa told me he was getting stronger as he got older.
"What do you mean Grandpa?"
"Because when I was younger I could never push my boner down. Now I can".
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"Get me a beer". The husband asks.
"I've been reading a lot about woman's rights, and I don't have to. Especially when you talk to me that way. Get your own beer". The wife replies.
"How would you like to not see me for a few days?"
"I'd love it. I'm sick of the way you treat me".
She didn't see him the next day. She didn't see him the second day. And she didn't see him the third day. The fourth day she could barely see him out of the corner of her right eye.
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A man was driving down the road and noticed a woman tied to some train tracks. He gets out, runs over to the girl and unties her then puts her into his truck.
Later that day his roommate comes home and he comes out of the bedroom and says:
"Dude, you wouldn't believe what happened today. It’s been the luckiest day of my life. Absolutely awesome".
"What...what?. The roommate asks.
I found this girl tied to some train tracks and then I brought her home and have been banging her all day".
"Really? No way. Did you get any head?"
"No, the train took care of that".
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A gay couple and a lesbian couple decide to go camping and will later meet the other one there at the camp.
Who made it there first?
The lesbian couple did because they left lickety-split, while the gay couple was still at home packing their shit.
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"Thank you for enrolling into the French Foriegn Legion. I know you were hesitant on joining but I can assure you the next five years with us will be a big payoff for you. And you do understand, that you cannot back out and that you must fulfill your term here?"
"Yes I do Sir. And thank you. I do have one question though. Being that we are confined to this installation, how does one satisfy themselves if we have no contact with any women. I mean what do we do for sex, sir?"
"I understand boy. No need to worry there. Come here, I'll show you something. You see that barrel over there?"
"Yea."
"From Wednesday to Monday anytime you want you just stick your dick in the hole and get and BJ."
"Really! Cool. Alright then. Ohh..umm, you said Wednesday through Monday? Well why not Tuesday?"
"Because that's your day in the barrel"
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An absolutely stunning 23 year old girl desperately wanted to be rich.....but she certainly didn't want to have to work. She didn't like the thought of marrying a rich guy, because it would only put a damper on all her party action. After a lot of thought, she decided her best bet was to marry some really old rich guy so that her departure from the party scene would be brief.
After a good deal of searching, she set her sights on a west Texas oilman/rancher who was pushing 90 years of age.
After wooing the man with all she had, they were married. He flew her to Manhattan for the honeymoon, taking her to the fanciest suite in the best hotel in town. After getting to their room, the old man wandered into the bathroom. The girl draped herself in the sexiest teddy she had and stretched out on the bed thinking how after only one night, she was bound to be a very rich widow.
Presently the old man walked out of the bathroom sporting the most enormous erection the girl had ever seen, and it was sheathed in a condom. The old man had wads of cotton stuffed in both ears and a clothespin on his nose.
Jumping off the bed, the girl asked "Why the hell do you look like that?".....
The old man chuckled and said "Darlin', there are two things in this world that I just can't stand.....the sound of a woman screaming and the smell of burning rubber".
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A friend of mine got a Viagra pill caught in his throat, and he had a stiff neck for hours.
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A truckload of Viagra was hijacked downtown yesterday. Police are still looking for three hardened criminals.
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A 21 year old walks into a bar and yells "barkeep! Five shots. Line'em up".
The barkeep lays out five shots and fills them with whiskey. The kid starts slamming the drinks one after another. When he gets to the fourth one, the barkeep covers the glass.
"What are you celebrating? No one drinks like this unless they are celebrating!"
The Kid gets a big smile and boasts "First Blowjob!"
The bartender exclaims "Hells yeah! Now THAT is something to celebrate. Tell you what...an extra shot on the house."
The kid waves his hand and says "Thanks, but that's not necessary, if the first five shots don't kill the taste, the sixth one won't either."
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So ... if Obama gets 70 million votes, they're all batshit crazy. Okay!
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Mickey and Minnie Mouse are in divorce court. The judge looks at Mickey and says, "So Mr. Mouse, you want to divorce your wife because you say she is crazy." Mickey shouts back at the judge, "I didn't say she was crazy...I said she was fucking Goofy!"
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What has 9 arms and sucks? Def Leppard
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There's 2 cannibals in the jungle eating a clown.
One turns to the other and asks, "this taste funny to you"?
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What do Michael Jackson and Santa Claus have in common?
They both leave boy’s houses with empty sacks.
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They're gonna need you at McCain campaign headquarters tomorrow night....
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So this guy comes home and sees his girlfriend is pissed. Her bags are packed and she's leaving him. He rushes over to her and asks what's wrong. She says, "Someone told me you're a pedophile!!!" And he says "Well isn't that a big word for a 9-year-old."
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A little boy and a pedophile are walking in the deep, dark, woods. The little boy says,
"Mister, I'm scared! These woods are really creepy."
The pedophile replies, "How do you think I feel? I have to walk back all by myself."
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There once was a little boy who was celebrating his 11th birthday.
He decided to test his family to see if they remembered his birthday, so he goes downstairs to his father. "Bet cha' can't guess how old I am today", the boy said.
The father has no clue and finally gives up. "I'm eleven!" the boy exclaims.
Next he goes in the kitchen, walks up to his grandma, and says, "Bet cha' can't guess how old I am today".
"Let me give it a guess", grandma says and sticks her hand in his trousers.
She plays with his testicles for about an hour or so (squeezing them; moving them back and forth), takes her hand out of his trousers, and says, "You're eleven years old".
"How did you know?" the boy asked.
Grandma replied, "I heard you tell your father".
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A man walks past an ice cream stand that advertises, "Every flavor ice cream in the world.""Bullshit," thinks the man and walks in. "So you say you have every flavour ice cream in the world?" "O.K., I would like three scoops of cunt flavored ice cream please.""No problem sir." The assistant gives the man three scoops of ice cream in a cone and the man takes a good lick. Grimacing, he says, "This doesn't taste like cunt, it tastes like shit!" The assistant replies, "Of course it tastes like shit when you take such long licks!"
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Two guys are walking down the street and see a dog on the lawn, licking his balls.
One guy says to the other, "Man, I sure wish I could do that".
The other guy says, "Don't you think you ought to pet him first?"
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Calls "Joe the Plumber", "Joe the Bomber"
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... Tom Tomorrow pretty much always nails it.
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Shoulda' been "persists", but, "PEEsists" would actually have been more accurate...
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I realize that you guys may know Snake Foreskin from these boards for a good long time, but I can't believe that at least some of you that I have come to respect as compassionate thoughtful people don't have a problem with: "She died after he threw her under the bus!
by Snake Foreskin Nov 3rd, 2008
03:46:41 PM Poor woman, fo sho! She raised him the best she knew how and he turned around and told the country what an ignorant bigot she was. Way to go, Barry. Toot should be so proud. Hell, she probably said she was voting for McCain and David Plouffe held a pillow over her face until she "Toot"ed her last horn. I thought every vote was supposed to count? That's okay because ACORN already has her registered to vote 37 times in Ohio." Is he some sort of CoC or AICN staff insider and thus off limits or what? -
that one is funny because it's true!
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Yeah I took notice of that. I guess I have a problem with it, but really I just chalk it up to more of the same desperate talk that's been increasing in the last week or two.
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WAS TERRIBLE! Like Seth Rogan hosting terrible, probably worst. Almost Johna Hill Hosting bad, nothing was funny with Ben. Was he just in town?
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Nov 03, 2008 9:18:54 PM CST
I DON'T KNOW SNAKE FORESKIN FROM A HOLE IN COUGHLINS' HEAD
by bringingsexyback
To me he's Anchorite without a secondary education. It's the night before election day, McKKKain and Palin are ratcheting up the fear factor, their side's making desperate moves. I wouldn't expect much better from that side, to be frank.
If all they have is to denigrate the memory of a nice old lady who did right by a whole lot of people, then that just reflects the character of the persons they advocate for the highest office of the land. And after the dirtiest campaign in American history, we know them all too well. -
I just read that disgusting comment, no fucking way is Snake Foreskin; CoC. He may be a POS though
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Nov 03, 2008 9:20:32 PM CST
Thunderbolt, not all his supporters are batshit crazy!
by snake foreskin
Just the ones at his rallies that close their eyes and mouth prayers to him. The ones that sway to and for like willows in the wind, fainting like little girls at a JOnas Brothers concert when he looks their way. The ones on here proclaiming him as our salvation, their savior. Just because you vote for someone doesn't make you crazy. But there are some real kooks on here and out there that kind of freak me out.
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at best, but not quite ban-worthy. (and I'm a socialist, muslim, left-lane, baby killing, gay lovin, daily show watching,spread the wealth, godless, anti-real america, fake american)
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David Cook makes some of the worst, most soulless music I've heard in a long time. If you sound like a watered-down Nickelback, you know you are in some serious trouble.
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That's just great. I make jokes all the time. Jokes about McCain. Jokes about Obama. Jokes about everybody. I've read some sick shit on here coming from you guys about McKKKain and "Nailin' Palin". But when I make a joke about Obama's granny suddenly jokes are off-limits and the ban hammer comes out of the toolbox again? I was right about you guys. You're intolerant sniveling little pussies who can't take it when someone doesn't hold the same opinion of what you hold in such reverence. In this case it's Barack Obama. I'm telling you, you're sick in the head. He's gonna get elected tomorrow. You should be mirthful and gay, not intolerant and full of ire.
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... but man, if that's not a banning offense, I've never seen one. Not only is it mocking the dead, its racist, inflammatory, and just plain vile, the very definition of "hate speech". I've seen people banned from AICN for far less. My take, judging by the lack of response to this completely unacceptable post, according to published AICN moderation policy, is that he might have some sort "pass" from the CoC guys, and possibly even an "in" with AICN staff, although it typically takes a while for the mods to react even when policy has clearly been violated. Been here off and on since 2001 and I've said scenario before. I like the tolerance and restraint AICN shows in moderating this forum but some shit needs to be smacked down without mercy.
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Just ignore him man, he's just trolling; trying to get a rise out of someone. Desperation is a stinky cologne Snake.
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Hilarious man. Laughing my ass off.
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Nov 03, 2008 9:37:28 PM CST
Dude, McCain and Palin have done right by a whole lotta people,
by snake foreskin
All I hear is denigration of the GOP candidates and their supporters on here. And if you guys think this is the dirtiest campaign in American history, you don't know your history. LBJ/Goldwater in 1964 has got to be the most egregious. People think Bush/Gore was bad, or Bush/Kerry? Try Thomas Jefferson/John Adams. And have you forgotten Watergate? Nixon/McGovern was all about bad behavior. This coming election pales in comparison, friendo.
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Is he reading some post written in invisotext?
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When asked why he would use robocalls against Obama when they were used against him, which he then denounced in 2000, McCain replied, "Well, they worked."
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by handing them a bill for $2,000 for their rape kits.
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I knew I wasn't the only one. No dice Snake. While all of your posts are pretty juvenile, crass, and demonstrably unintelligent, that one crossed the line. I will do everything I can to get your stinking carcass banned.
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Because you don't like me? I said he threw her under the bus by calling her out as a bigot in the media. He sure as hell did just that. Nothing racist in my comments whatsoever. Unless you mean that I pointed out that he called his own grandmother a racist, which he did. Other than that, I have no idea what you could even remotely construe as "racist". Pussified idiot. You don't like me and don't want to have to see me posting on here because you disagree with my point of view, so you want to get me banned by calling me a racist. Dude, you are an unbelievable douchebag. An intolerant, pussified douchebag. Grow up and be a man.
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Let's stay classy and civilized...
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They never banned me here, but when I got too vocal about my wife being Asian, and our offense to McCain saying "I hate the gooks", I came back the next day and half my posts were removed. Anytime I used the "G" word, the post no longer existed. And here I'm thinking; "the guy who wants to sit in the oval office can use the word, but I can't? Even in the context of complaining about the very nature of the racial slur??" i say my wife is Asian and i don't approve of the term "gook", and i get censored. McCain wants to lead our country, he says "i hate gooks" and it's cool? anyone who reads this, remember you read it. i won't be surprised to come back and find it missing.
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Nov 03, 2008 9:44:26 PM CST
did snake just say "friendo"? THATS A BANNABLE OFFENSE!
by irrelevntelefant
seriously. there is no room in these talkbacks for that kind of douchebaggery!
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... I was um, 'upset'...
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Like Obama's supporters obviously will if he loses ... What's wrong with those people???
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We're just one day away from change.
Election Day is tomorrow -- Tuesday, November 4th.
We've asked you to do a lot over the course of this campaign, and you've always come through.
Right now, I'm asking you to do one last thing -- vote tomorrow, and make sure everyone you know votes, too.
Watch a short video about how far we've come, and how close we are. Then find or confirm your polling location and make sure your friends and family do the same:
When this campaign began, we weren't given much of a chance by the pollsters or the pundits.
But tomorrow, we can make history.
We've made it this far because supporters like you never stopped believing in your power to bring about real change.
Take the final step now.
Watch the video, find your polling location, and get everyone you know involved on Election Day:
http://my.barackobama.com/nov4
With your vote, and the votes of your friends, family, and neighbors, we won't just win this election -- together, we will change this country and change the world.
Thank you,
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But he isn't the antichrist. Neither is Obama. I am so pissed off at all the mudslinging on both sides. If people would pay more attention to the real issues and not so much to the tabloids, this country would be better off. Who really cares if Jennifer Anniston is prengant? Jennifer Anniston, sure. But why do more people seem to read up on who she's dating than read up on what John McCain or Barack Obama plan for the country? It's a damn joke that people running for office say things like, the American people are smart. They know the truth when they hear it." No they don't! Most Americans don't know who the damn Secretary of State is. Pisses me off.
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I am not calling for your banning, but I am telling you that your comment was a piece of shit. You crossed the line. There are far worse things said on these TB's than your comment - as disgusting as it was, but one of the things that can bring out the hammer faster than you can blink is when you speak ill of the recently deceased. It was an offensive remark. And no amount of 'I was joking' a'la anchorite, can change that.
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Here is his statement which is far more nuanced than you give him credit for Snake. "I can no more disown him [Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love." So your original post was out of line. As far as humor, it wasn't really funny. And BSB, your MKKKain thing is also not funny and out of line.
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Nov 03, 2008 9:54:50 PM CST
"MOST AMERICANS DON'T KNOW WHO THE DAMN SECRETARY OF STATE IS"
by bringingsexyback
Well, you're voting for Palin and she doesn't know what the Vice President does. So if you're gonna be pissed off about ignorant people you can start with yourself, friendo!!!!
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in oklahoma and kansas in the 20's through the 80's. that was their environment, that was the culture of the times. I didn't fault them for it, I still loved them and for whoever is thinking of posting "well, the nazis were a product of their environment and culture" FUCK YOU, TWATRAG! if either of my grandads was a member of the KKK or a nazi supremecist, I would have told them they were ignorant , weak minded fuckwads and to pull their heads out of their retarded asses.
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Nov 03, 2008 10:02:38 PM CST
I'm still for Edwards though. Pussy Magnet trumps Action Hero
by irrelevntelefant
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Nov 03, 2008 10:03:05 PM CST
Moaters how the hell was my post racist? by Snake Foreskin
by skyway moaters
"Fo Sho!" "and he turned around and told the country what an ignorant bigot she was." "I thought every vote was supposed to count? That's okay because ACORN already has her registered to vote 37 times in Ohio." Thant's the problem with bigots, they don't even realize when they're making racist statements This post is not an isolated incident, MOST of your posts are racially tinged, Shall I quote? "Fo Sho!" "and he turned around and told the country what an ignorant bigot she was." "I thought every vote was supposed to count? That's okay because ACORN already has her registered to vote 37 times in Ohio." You see Snake, That's the problem with bigots, they don't even realize when they're making racist statements This post is not an isolated incident, MOST of your posts are racially tinged, Shall I quote? “what should he have said? I heard that clip. There were people in that audience calling Obama an Arab. McCain was defending Obama. Don't be an asshole! That's like accusing Obama for hating whites for saying, "I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator". You guys are so effing dumb sometimes” “The Mayan calendar ends because
by Snake ForeskinNov 3rd, 2008 04:14:59 PM that's as high as they could count!” “I hope Obama wins. I don't want my city burned down! by Snake ForeskinNov 3rd, 2008
03:35:13 PM If McCain wins there's a good chance that we'll have some mega-sized riots all over the country. All those drunk white college kids, you know! Watch out! The youth vote is angry! Seriously though. Do you think there will be riots if Obama wins? I've already heard several news stories focusing on the potential for serious civil unrest if McCain comes out on top. That's fuckin' crazy! It makes us look like a damn third world country! If your guy doesn't get elected, cry into your beer. Don't grab a baseball bat and wreak havoc on your own neighborhood. Hey! Here's an idea - maybe the same people who drive people to the polls will be willing to drive them to the other side of town in case they don't like the outcome of the election and want to fuck some shit up! Don't shit where you eat, right?” Shall I continue? -
but it's from watching one too many Gangland Gangbangs.
And Terry, as for the McKKKain thing, he's more than earned it. Sorry but the Maverick put his stamp of approval on a whole lot of ugliness and despite one brief moment of clarity at a townhall, he's been nothing but a boundless racist. -
"Fo Sho!" "and he turned around and told the country what an ignorant bigot she was." "I thought every vote was supposed to count? That's okay because ACORN already has her registered to vote 37 times in Ohio." You see Snake, That's the problem with bigots, they don't even realize when they're making racist statements. This post is not an isolated incident, MOST of your posts are racially tinged, Shall I quote? “what should he have said? I heard that clip. There were people in that audience calling Obama an Arab. McCain was defending Obama. Don't be an asshole! That's like accusing Obama for hating whites for saying, "I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator". You guys are so effing dumb sometimes” “The Mayan calendar ends because by Snake Foreskin Nov 3rd, 2008 04:14:59 PM that's as high as they could count!” “I hope Obama wins. I don't want my city burned down! by Snake Foreskin Nov 3rd, 2008 03:35:13 PM If McCain wins there's a good chance that we'll have some mega-sized riots all over the country. All those drunk white college kids, you know! Watch out! The youth vote is angry! Seriously though. Do you think there will be riots if Obama wins? I've already heard several news stories focusing on the potential for serious civil unrest if McCain comes out on top. That's fuckin' crazy! It makes us look like a damn third world country! If your guy doesn't get elected, cry into your beer. Don't grab a baseball bat and wreak havoc on your own neighborhood. Hey! Here's an idea - maybe the same people who drive people to the polls will be willing to drive them to the other side of town in case they don't like the outcome of the election and want to fuck some shit up! Don't shit where you eat, right?” Shall I continue?
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Fucking election has me out of touch with the things that matter!!!!
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When taken together it does look pretty bad, actually
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McCain has lost a huge amount of my respect for the way he has waged this campaign. But, he is no racist. In fact, his decision not to use Rev. Wright as a divisive issue speaks very well for him. Using Wright would have split the country. It would have been an enormous racial wound if it had been exploited. I know that The RNC is using Wright in commercials in PA. But that is last minute and one state only. Think if they had given the Ayers treatment to Wright? Speeches, nationwide commercials, foxnews, etc. It may have backfired in any event, and perhaps it was a political decision as much as personal one. But he did not do it.
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There have been a number of people (black, white, and brown) talking or joking about how the black community is going to be celebrating Barack's election or rioting if McCain wins. Whether these people are being racist I will leave to someone else to discuss. But SnakeForeskin's post was advocating that people don't riot. As far as John McCain and the Muslim comment, it is definitely offensive but unintentionally so on his part. The sad fact is calling someone a Muslim nowadays is equivalent to character assassination. I was hoping either candidate would address this issue and say "So what if he is?" There's not a goddamned thing wrong with being a Muslim. In fact, it would be ENTIRELY IN OUR BEST INTEREST to elect a Muslim. It would certainly take the wind out of the extremist's sails. They couldn't claim any more Zionist conspiracy shit.
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Point to me one action/statement personally stamped by McCain that is equivalent to the views or behavior of the Ku Klux Klan. You realize they HUNG UP BLACK CHILDREN FROM TREES? You want to compare McCain to these guys? Not even close. Not by a goddamn lot. I think you need to think that over BSB. Seriously.
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... 1 half hour of Googling will convince anyone who isn't a bigot themselves.
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Nov 03, 2008 10:28:10 PM CST
BSB, Black gangbang porn is the basis for my irrational fear...
by irrelevntelefant
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Bottom line, it's really hateful and I think unwarranted.
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... as Colin Powell so eloquently pointed out in his endorsement of Obama.
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I disagree with you about Snakes intent. I am not calling him a racist, but it was pretty obvious that his intent was to use sarcasm in the form of drunk white college students (notice he did not just say college students but white college student) to accuse blacks of rioting while not actually coming out and saying so directly.
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It shows the desperation and total lack of concern about the consequences.
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But I'm saying accusing blacks of rioting is what a lot of people (black and white) are joking/talking about. Where did this fear come from? I never would've thought about it. And the main point of his post (I think) was addressed to the potential rioters [the black community] saying don't riot if your candidate [Obama] doesn't win. Best to let SnakeForeskin clear it up and not me.
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At this point, I really don't give a shit who wins, we're fucked either way. I'll just be glad to go 5 minutes without hearing about it. This election cycle almost makes me miss the old days when Ross "Quark" Perot was the most annoying thing in politics.
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That is the implication of your last statement - even though you were inferring from Snakes post, and not saying so yourself. That is the exact stereotypical bullshit that I and Moaters are talking about.
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Are you a homophobe too Snake? And don't try to imply that you meant "happy". In context of your history, it simply isn't plausible.
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is all over the Wright ads playing in PA right now. Even if they are run by the RNC, they wouldn't be running without his approval. Sorry Toad and Terry, we have to agree to disagree on this one.
John Gotti and Al Capone were never caught with blood on their hands, but you know a lot of shit was done with their blessing and direction. Perhaps - perhaps - I should be calling out RicKKK Davis and Nancy Pfucktenthehead more for the way the campaign and their surrogates were inciting race war (real Virginia, etc.), but all roads lead to McCain. It's his campaign and he bears the mark of the beast they created. -
No I do not believe that blacks riot when things don't go their way for goodness. I shouldn't even have to say since I never said it or imply it. What I AM saying, is that the people who initially expressed fears of riots are the ones we need to take a hard look at. If Snake was among those, I don't know. He made it seem in his post that he was responding to news articles that have been published and not some knee jerk deep held fear of black people.
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I guess you and I have different ideas about what it takes to be a racist.
The McCain defenders come out in force.
"McCain's not a racist!"
Unless you're Asian, then to you, he might be a racist. But, if you're a white would be/ wanna be/ has been / rich upper class American then he's your guy!
McCain racism.
http://tinyurl.com/3ykw7c
Republican rally racism.
http://tinyurl.com/3wmg4c
Is there Anyone here who actually thinks this is acceptable behavior? Especially in a candidate for president of the United States?
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The lipstick you want, the jugeared crazy you need!
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The Reverend Wright attack ad is running practically every commercial break here in Austin tonight.
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I know you were not saying any such thing. I even said in my post that you were inferring from Snakes post. But the implication (in snakes post)is there, that blacks riot when things do not go their way. No one else on these boards said anything like that. It is a stereotype that Snake picked up and passed along.
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I just watched Obama speaking at the Manassas VA rally live on C-SPAN. While I would have liked to have been there, I'm glad I won't have to deal with the nightmare exodus of NoVA traffic which is sure to follow. That being said, the rally was huge...Obama told a great little story...and it was all pretty darn cool.
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If he did not want that commercial, it would not run. I still am hesitant to call him a racist, but it lowers even further my respect for him.
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"FIRED UP!!!""READY TO GO!!!"
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Whether he meant to describe only his captors or not. That term is equivalent to the N word and any other hateful epithet. Sadly, I would venture to say most Americans wouldn't even understand this. The question you have to ask yourself is: Does that make him equivalent to those in the KKK? Does he hate Asians? Would he mind if they were killed or disenfranchised? I think he DEFINITELY should apologize and it's completely unacceptable. The ire raised against Obama if he made a similar remark would have sunk his presidency. I'm not a McCain apologist, but I do think it's extreme to throw him in the KKK camp the same way it's extreme to call Obama a socialist.
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if Obama wins and you have
by irrelevntelefant Nov 3rd, 2008
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"To semiquote Chris rock, if Obama wins..."
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for clients whom I've never met. So I'll go with "I don't know" if McCain or Snake is a racist, ignorant or both.
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... Are on one clever mofo. "Cool" indeed. I still believe that "some shit has to be smacked down without mercy", but it is indeed time to chill. Thanks. "Boy boy, crazy boy, stay loose boy..."
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That's probably a good move. I think given the evidence McCain has shown himself to be both racist, and ignorant. As far as Snake, I think he was just trying to stir shit up.
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The problem is that there is a lot of people passing that message on.
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Now you want to "kick the tires and light the fires"?! MNG? (One of McCain's favorite catch phrases from his Navy days, (indicates a cavalier attitude toward safety of flight) Sorry about the "MSG" gaffe a minute ago BTW, hmm, 'MNG', 'riffing' on "Minge" perchance? (heh)
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I AM the "Typo King". Type fast as shit with abysmal accuracy. Do some searches of TBs back in 04, it was my friggin' nickname...
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No worries. Sounds like you're feeling the need...the need for speed.FIRED UP!!!READY TO GO!!!
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... Snake needs to go: "Sounds like the brown shirts will be wearing blue this year! by Snake Foreskin Nov 3rd, 2008
03:14:44 PM You guys are off your rockers with hate toward the right. Lighten up, will you? The right isn't evil and neither is the left. Obama isn't the Savior or the Antichrist and McCain isn't either. They're both a couple of guys who think they have the answers to our problems. Neither of them really do, of course. They both suck as candidates for President of the US of A. Why? Because neither of them is sporting a mullet and both of them are pussified ass-kissers! America is about to bend over and take it up the ass again, and you guys are creaming your pants! It's like a damn bukkake convention in San Francisco around here. I bet you guys would let Obama spooge on your face if it'd get him elected! Slurp! Obama/Biden Slurp! I haven't seen this much suckage since Season 2 of Heroes! -
... that he has shown himself to be both a racist, AND a homophobe? If not a fascist as well? Not to mention a generally vile human being? I mean, DGDB cusses and says gross shit but he's not prejudiced. There IS a difference.
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... quite possibly the most brilliant mathematicians of the ancient world, you ignorant piece of shit.
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if you could count past 100, you were Einstein... So to count to 2012 is like Stephen fucking Hawking type braniac for that time...
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about people who actually say 'n-word' instead of the actual word itself.
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You can put California on the list of states getting those RNC Rev. Wright ads as well. I've seen five already.
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Nov 04, 2008 12:10:54 AM CST
i'm more afraid of the riots if prop 8 passes in CA
by irrelevntelefant
WeHo will make the Watts riots look like .... ummm.... well... there's bound to be a lot of assless chaps involved.... and side abs.... lots of side abs...
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... Mayan calendar and how it was calculated irrelevntfant? Or Maya math? Or that they were the first civilization that had a concept of "Zero"? http://tinyurl.com/5ae7t2
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DIXVILLE NOTCH, N.H. — Barack Obama came up a big winner in the presidential race in Dixville Notch and Hart's Location, N.H., where tradition of having the first Election Day ballots tallied lives on.
Democrat Obama defeated Republican John McCain by a count of 15 to 6 in Dixville Notch, where a loud whoop accompanied the announcement. The town of Hart's Location reported 17 votes for Obama, 10 for McCain and two for write-in Ron Paul.
The first Dixville Notch voter, following tradition established in 1948, was picked ahead of the midnight voting and the rest of the town's 21 registered voters followed suit in Tuesday's first minutes.
Town Clerk Rick Erwin said the northern New Hampshire town is proud of its tradition, but added that the most important thing is that the turnout represents a 100 percent vote.
President Bush won the votes in Dixville Notch and Hart's Location in 2004 on the way to his re-election.
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The Mayan calendar typically featured scantily clad Mayan women next to tricked out Pyramids, and it was calculated by the Jews. as for the concept of Zero, little known fact, it came when they calculated their civilizations chance for survival. Initial estimates had it at 3% with a 5% statistical error. Had they actually been off 4% instead of 3, they would have also discovered negative numbers. i'm fairly certain they are responsible for acid-wash jeans as well...
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Nov 04, 2008 12:23:00 AM CST
as for Maya math- it's 20/dance or $100 for the champagne room
by irrelevntelefant
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Good one Mr. irrelevant! There's still time to educate yourself brother. Or do you perhaps subscribe to the "Palin School"? "I'm undereducated, and proud of it doggonit!, you gotcha elitists educated people you!"
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Point made. Sarcasm can be difficult in written communication. Point taken. I'm still a bit worked up over Snake Foreskin pissing on Madelyn Payne Dunham's death.
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I totally just clicked on the 2 disc Waterworld extended edition ad. Bless you, Harry.
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You're correct about the interpetation of the song, but the chorus itself is more than enough to recommend this track on your list.It's already on my Ipod along with Dope's "I wish I was the President" as wel as the aforementioned songs/suggestions.Good Luck to all Bam supporters. Let's win this race.Whhooorrraaaaaa!!
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uh, Ouch. XD
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DID know his aunt was here illegally and adn was a fugitive who had been ordered deported!!! What a great guy!!! A proven liar, friends with terrorists, racists, and socialist anti-Americans, AND harboring a fugitive illegal alien!!! Good luck!!!!
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Christ. It's just a repeat of the same tired old shit. And I saw you say that you'd admitted it on the sole occasion (can I hear a UNH-HUUUUUH) that you were wrong. Which is wrong in itself. What's a casualty?
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what do you think "proven" means Because I seriously doubt that it means what you think it does. I am more than prepared to discover that you do know, but are just hopeless at actually being able to tell when things have been proven beyond doubt. So please furnish me with what you think it means.
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Why didn't you tell me this BEFORE pee pants? I wouldn't have voted the way I did Junior! I certainly wish I could go back and change my vote for the racist old man and his dumb as rocks sidekick.Damn me.
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You did say Obama was friends with racists, right?
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1. "we just found out" What, you have direct knowledge of Obama's mental processes? You can mind-read? Fuck off idiot.
And who constitutes "we" - not you personally, of course, you're only capable of reporting hearsay, twisted for effect.
2. "a proven liar" - in 8 years on this site, I've never seen a stupider, more unjustifiably self-confident pinhead. Your notion of "proof" wouldn't satisfy a four year old. Your alleged "proofs" are distorted hearsay from right wing media outlets.
3. You, on the other hand constantly mis-state facts, distort data and exaggerate opinions past the point of rhetoric.
Classic case in point: your lie that Obama "promised to bankrupt coal companies."
No sane person watching that film interview could have reached that conclusion. Obama said that penalties should be imposed on coal companies which breached emission controls, and if they continued to break the law, they would go bankrupt. You knew this but you lied about it.
4. "friends with terrorists". Another obvious lie. He attended a fundraiser at the home of a man who had been, 40 years earlier, a terrorist. There is not the slightest shred of evidence that Ayers (who is not Obama's "friend") is now, or has been in the last 40 years, a terrorist.
There is not the slightest shred of evidence that Obama is "friends" with any current terrorist.
Being in a room with people you, in your stupidity characterise as "terrorists" is not evidence of anything.
That's just a lie you chose to tell because you are too dishonest, too stupid and too much of an ideologue to even consider sticking to the facts.
5. You think Obama is a "socialist" - you don't even know what the word means. In the dozen or so countries with a higher standard of living than the US, most of which are unquestionably Socialist countries, Obama is regarded as a moderate Conservative.
Yes, you half-wit, he wouldn't be admitted to most governing parties in those countries - because he's a conservative.
6. Haboring a fugitive illegal alien? You obviously don't have a clue about the meaning of the word "harboring". I do. My job is knowing the meaning of words like "proof" "evidence" "guilt" "lie" and, yes, "harboring". You're utterly clueless on all of those concepts.
Why don't you piss off, now.
You've managed to convert a few uncommitted conservatives to vote for Obama by your inane shrieking.
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What a post. There's no comeback from that Coughdrop, petal, you'd be better giving up.
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So irritable, correct me if I'm wrong, but using Coughmedicine's logic, the people who work for him, since they are in the same room as Coughmedicine one would presume, are as dumb as him.Dumb by association as it were.
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just by being on the same TB as him.
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Seeing as they take direction from him, then they must be stupider. Which makes them actually not human but fungus. That is, however, provided you beieve that Coughedupphlegm actually runs several highly successful McDonald's franchises (or whatever the fuck it's meant to be), and isn't a sad pathetic little fucker with a criminally overdeveloped fantasy life and sense of self-worth.
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I have never seen a dumber, more narrow-minded, idiotic post than Coughlin's. Just now. And I've been on here for awhile. Seriously. What a stupid. guy.
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Did you not truly read whoopingcough's post? He speaks the TRUTH!It's proven.
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open a new coal plant "will go bankrupt"!!!! What don't you understand about that? Why do you think every coal company has come out against him (usually Democrat favoring organizations)? We know for a fact Obama lied about taking Presidential Campaign Matching Funds. We know for a fact that Obama was closer friends with Ayers than he originally said. We know for a fact Obama quotes Karl Marx and has said he befriended "Marxist Professors". The fact that you freely admit here that you would want to live in a socialist country becuase they have a higher standard of living than the US, well, that just means your Communist College Professors have failed you. People for over a century have been fleeing Socialist Countries to come to the US. I want you to name specifically which countries you say have a "higher standard of living" than the US and explain to me why you choose to live here instead of those "socialist utopias". As far a his aunt, Obama's chief of staff admitted that they knew that his aunt was here illegally and ordered deported. OK, Obama wasn't hiding her in his house. Nice defense! You really are funny. You care nothing about facts, you care nothing about ALL of the shady people in Obama's past. You care nothing about Obama's treatment of his starving family. You don't care that he went to a racist, anti-American church for 20 years. You don't care he was friend's with two attempted mass-murderers. OK. Just admit it doesn't matter. Don't try to pretend he's not who he is. He is nothing special. He's just a typical politician. He's had radical associations in his past. Now, either he believes the same as these people, or he's just a political opportunist who knew all along that he was just temporarily using these people to lift his political carreer. Either way, there's nothing genuine about this guy at all.
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Christ on a fucking moped. What is wrong with you? What's a casualty?
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Nov 04, 2008 7:47:25 AM CST
Oh, and there are reports coming in that voting machines
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in Philadelphia were loaded with thousands of Obama votes before the polls even opened. A liberal judge oredered that 4 Republicans Election Workers removed because they were from the "minority party". So, in certain precincts in Pennsylvania, where there is ZERO Republican oversight, machines are being pre-loaded with Obama votes. Are you OK with this?
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Do you want me to link you to the video? Obama said, IN HIS OWN WORDS, "If somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It's just it'll bankrupt them..." because of all his punitive green-house taxes. There's no other way to look at it. A coal company can not exist if they don't buil new plants. Tell me how else to look at this?
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you support Obama. You don't have to work to get a check from Obama. I understand now why you support him. You're one of the 55 million who pay ZERO FEDERAL INCOME TAX and you want to help yourself to money from the earners in our society...
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to bankrupt coal companies, even though he admitted he will. I know this issue is complex and you probably don't understand it, but explain why the thousands and thousands of coal workers in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia who Obama has promised to put out of work should vote for him. Is this issue to complex for you? I won't accept you saying, "read what he said". In your own words, little boy, explain why I'm wrong?
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Defending your ideas is hard, isn't it? I'll give you time to look at the DailyKos to get the Democrat talking points on how he didn't really mean what he said. Take your time, little boy. I know it's tough arguing with an adult when your ideas are someone else's...
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I've said wrong...
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the election is over? Where will you guys transfer your anger? Hatred like you guys have for Bush doesn't just go away. Hatred you have for Palin doesn't just go away. What are you going to do when Obama doesn't keep all his promises?
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You lick up the regurgitated barf and repeat the process.
It's kinda nauseating to watch you do that, over and over.
Okay, asshole, let's go:
1. He did not say those words you quoted, you pathetic liar. Look at the video. Get a 4 year old child to explain the tricky bits.
2. Your typical gross exaggeration "Every coal company has come out against him" is, as usual false.
A number of coal companies, shit-scared that they might have to reduce profits to their wealthy shareholders by acting responsibly, according to modern emission controls, have grumbled - for blindingly obvious commercial reasons.
Name 3 companies which have "come out against" Obama's candidacy.
I'll be here waiting.
3. "we know for a fact Obama lied about taking PCM funds."
Excuse me, dickhead? "We know"? You mean "I would like to think, contrary to all the evidence" that Obama was untruthful.
Are you completely demented? If there was such proof, the whole of the media would be on the story and Obama would have been indicted.
I'm sure you don't have a fucking clue about the obligations to investigate known breaches of Federal Law imposed on a variety of Federal office-bearers, but it's bleedingly obvious that the Republican administration would have pursued provable dishonesty in microseconds.
4. "Quotes Karl Marx" - wow! That proves for sure that he's a Communist, right?
5. I "would want to live in a socialist country" - You moron, I LIVE IN A FRICKING SOCIALIST COUNTRY and it's doing just fine. And if you think that Law School Professors are Communists, you're living in dreamland. Law is the most conservative profession here, just like most countries. I was taught by Conservatives, who did not fail me - they just taught me how to think critically.
6. I don't care about any of those alleged misdeeds of Obama because, frankly, they are a bunch of ridiculous exaggerations of trivial events which, you, in utter desperation, have seized upon and pumped up to preposterous proportions.
So yeah .. just like roughly 70 million US citizens, I DON"T GIVE A BLUE ROOT about that nonsense.
GOT IT!!!!!
7. "Attempted Mass Murderers" ... you are utterly incapable of providing ONE SCRAP of evidence that Obama (a) was or is (b) a friend (you know what "friend" means?) (c) with any person who Attempted (that is, unsuccessfully or incompletely implemented) (d) conduct which (e) could have led to the murder of (e) ANY individual.
That is what you have to prove to make good your puerile allegation.
You can't do it, because the full resources of the Rove-trained Dirty Tricks Arm of the RNC tried and failed.
8. He's the most promising candidate the US has had in decades. He's not an opportunist, he's a guy who distinguished himself at Harvard and instead of walking into a million dollar job in a NY firm, put a great deal of work back into a community which the Republican Administration regarded as beneath contempt.
So, unfortunately for you, that PROVES he's about 10 times more genuine than most other candidates anyone can name.
And frankly, unlike many posters here, I happen to regard McCain as a genuine guy and a very meritorious candidate - it's just that it's hard for him to look impressive next to Obama.
Particularly with the 10 Billion Ton anchor - the republican heritage of the last 8 years - chained to his ankles.
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Hardly, I had a bit of work to do. I'm back now. 1)Of course I have a job, dickhead, else how would I live? But you're right. I don't pay income tax to the US government. Seeing as I live and work in the UK. My wife, on the other hand, who has income from America, does pay US taxes. However, said job means that I don't have time to respond every 3 minutes to your latest outporing of stupidity. I do try to keep up though.2)What you are grossly overextrapolating is that the plants you refer to are those that grossly excede emissions levels. This is not bankrupting every new coal plant. Why do you keep overinflating what is a very valid point? As soon as you start with the laughable and easily squashable hyperbole, you actually diminish one of your better arguments. Stick to the facts (and I mean facts, not facts distorted by some fatuous right wing kaleidascope effect) as they do help you in this case. 3)"why the thousands and thousands of coal workers in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia who Obama has promised to put out of work should vote for him". This is exactly a case in point. He has not said he is going to make all these people redundant. This is palpably untrue. He hasn't even said that he'll stop the creation of new jobs. What you are (again) extrapolating is that the green tax will prevent the creation of new jobs. This is uncertain, to begin with, and furthermore is not the same thing as forcing redundancy on X-Thousand American workers. See the difference? However, I will concede, that if your interpretation were the correct one, (which I'm far from granting) then unless they agree on other issues, these people are not best served voting for him. 4)Have you not learnt your lesson on challenging others to Prove their intelligence? It just makes you look colossally stupid. 5) What's a casualty?
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I voted a week ago, so election day is over for me. . . but if you haven't yet. Go vote. And Coughlin's Laws, why don't you go ahead and switch gears to the Rush and Fox Coverage of Obama's many presidential "scandals." Programming on those issues should begin November 5th, but you might as well get a head start on the negative propoganda. . .
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What is this, the 19th century? Who cares what Obama's opinion on this is. . . if you DO invest in a new coal plant, you WILL go bankrupt. Anyone who's played SimCity knows that coal plants are are not the future . . . While we're at it, I have an idea for a newfangled punchcard supercomputer (it only takes up one warehouse) Want a faster mode of travel? Then let's invest in a fleet of zepplins! Or how about installing a telegraph machine in every home? I could make a fortune over "the wires." How DARE Obama say such a thing about new coal plants. . . coal plant technology is on the rise!
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when that idiot started shrieking again.
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You didn't respond immediately to a post! Oh my gosh! You coward!
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You laid the wood on that asshole Coughlins.
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Will be the firestorm that rains down on him and Palin when the real reason for her withholding her medical records is revealed. Either you'll see massive buyers remorse or a collective group of hypocritical knob gobblers who brush it off. Either way, that wonderful Liberal media will dog them every day for the next four years.That's a bright side I can take consolation in.
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Coughlin, don't make me have to go out and do it another dozen times today. I'll kill your dog.
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I mean, is there any other response possible from them now?I'm not sure how many times Jarv has to explain to coughingfit that he lives in the UK. Over/under 48 more times?
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I'll have to explain to coughingondannysknob a few hundred more times.
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Imagine how sad and what a new low for a party to fret over a blowjob but let slide that their VP lied about her pregnancy. If that happens, I'm done with the right. They'll officially all be evil worthless cum stains who need to jump off the tallest cliff.
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Afraid huh? Cause it's been like at least ten minutes. Coward.
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He's looking up the word "casualty".
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Because I doubt that Coughlin carries a copy of Webster's in the Wal-Mart bag that he refers to as his "restaurant".
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He's a hypocrite on the issue of "real time talkback response"
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Coughlin ain't lookin' up shit. He's crouched in front of his Delphic Oracle, "FoxNews" (he watches it through the window of the McDonald's that he thinks he runs), sweating and twitching, waiting for the latest realignment of reality.
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This thing could be a blowout
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But Obama looks gorgeous
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(CNN) – John McCain and his aides are still banking on a come-from-behind victory Tuesday, but the GOP's most famous political strategist has already called the race for Barack Obama.
Karl Rove, the man widely credited with engineering President Bush's two successful White House bids, is predicting the Illinois senator will take the White House in an Electoral College landslide, winning 338 votes to John McCain's 200. That would be the largest Electoral College victory since 1996, when Bill Clinton defeated Bob Dole in a 379-159 rout. -
How does that make you feel coughandflu?
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Last night
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I expect better from Toad and Danny. No more talk of landslides. My stomach is churning, I'm jittery and I have no fingernails. So please, let's stay grounded until they start calling states.Are any of you planning on doing real time posting here tonight or are you going to wait until it's all over to gloat/pout?
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How does that work, Terrence?It should have been YOU having a come from behind victory. Right on that bull's eye, brah. Booyah!
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Not my words. I'm quoting Rove.
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Come 7pm Eastern Time, I'm gonna be glued to the TV.
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Was a winner.
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Go-Bama!
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I will be on real time tonight. It will be along night - and long long lines. My guess is that voting will go on n many states, long after the polls have closed. I got in and out rather quickly this morning, I went very early though.
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Victory
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...but now I'm sorta undecided. I was for McCain all along, but I just found out about something called the Keating 5. Did you guys know if this? Really shady stuff.
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That dumb piece of austrian shit ca nsuck on my cock. Fucking campaigning for McCain the fucking Nazi? WTF Maria?
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I'll have to leave work early. Got my book ready. The Audacity of Hope!
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That was a damaging, stupid and a bit troubling thing for Obama to say. If those remarks had come out sooner, he would be in deep shit in PA and VA. Not to mention W.VA were he would not win anyway. Still, I agree that Obama screwed the pooch with those coal comments. I would not have voted for McCain because of the coal comments, but certainly people in thise states might have reconsidered. It came acroiss as pandering to the greens. The S.F. Chronicle saved his ass on that.
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Because you know they won't declare a winner until early morning. And I intend to see it live.
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it was mentioned earlier about Obama and the coal plants and how the evil democrat socialist wants to bankrupt them.for those who actually seek out the truth instead of listening to Sarah Palin's talking points would know that Obama does not want to bankrupt the coal industry here is the whole obama quote:"I voted against the Clear Skies Bill. In fact, I was the deciding vote. Despite the fact that I'm a coal state. And that half my state thought that I had thoroughly betrayed them. Because I think clean air is critical and global warming is critical. But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon. And how can we sequester that carbon and capture it. If we can't, then we're gonna still be working on alternatives.
"But...[NOTE: here's where the Western Business Roundtable picked up the text.] let me sort of describe my overall policy. What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade policy in place that is as aggressive if not more aggressive than anyone out there. I was the first call for 100% auction on the cap and trade system. Which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases that was emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants are being built, they would have to meet the rigors of that market. And the ratcheted down caps that are imposed every year. So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted. That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel, and other alternative energy approaches. The only thing that I've said with respect to coal--I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter, as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it. That I think is the right approach. The same with respect to nuclear. Right now, we don't know how to store nuclear waste wisely and we don't know how to deal with some of the safety issues that remain. And so it's wildly expensive to pursue nuclear energy. But I tell you what, if we could figure out how to store it safely, then I think most of us would say that might be a pretty good deal. The point is, if we set rigorous standards for the allowable emissions, then we can allow the market to determine and technology and entrepreneurs to pursue, what the best approach is to take, as opposed to us saying at the outset, here are the winners that we're picking and maybe we pick wrong and maybe we pick right."
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Have you little bitches gotten past your ban-happy fascist tendencies? I sure as hell hope so. Free Speech, my ass. You piss off some PC pussified whiner on here and they treat you like you torched a village of innocent women and children. Take a deep breath and repeat after me: "I will learn to play well with others. I will allow other people to post even if they have a different point of view than me. Freedom of Speech is a good thing." Now will someone please tell me how to do paragraph breaks?
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HOw can you read that Obama quote and think he's brilliant?
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He just contradicted himself so much in that one snippet he not only created a paradox, he created a rift in the space-time continuum. Where was he when he said that? Someone needs to scan that area for dark matter. Now dammit! Now!
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Relax, dude. I'm not going to say anything. I've wished death on McCain and Palin and anyone who votes for them so I'm certainly not one to judge. I'd just be careful with remarks that are racist but otherwise post away.Call me a hypocrite but right now I'm too nauseous and jittery to care about bile and vitriol on this thread today.
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Did you see Stewart's bit on that last night? All Obama said was that if the coal industry continues to build TRADITIONAL coal plants it will put them out of business because of the penalty for greenhouse gas emissions, and thereby force them to invest in clean coal technology instead. As opposed to the McCain ammendment that will put coal completely out of business because of fuel-switching to natural gas.
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You have to look at the big picture. The comments were stupid because he admitted that he would slap huge penalties on any new startup coal plants - thus the 'bankrupt' em. That played well with greens, but not with coal states. Also, consider this: Coal is Americas greatest energy asset, and any move towards more electrical cars or use of electrical energy in general, will not come from renewable energy such as solar or wind, at least not in the near future because both of those resources require huge amounts of land - and investment, to return energy, but from coal. Limiting coal production, while calling for more electricity usage will do one thing - raise prices across the entire country, not just in coal producing states. It was a stupid thing to say. I agree that new coal plants should be charged for the greenhouse gases they inject, but not to the point that it will bankrupt them. We need that resource.
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We need coal.
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Post whatever you want but the fact that you left it up to others ie me to defend your comments is irritating.
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But we need to upgrade all coal plants with scrubbers that reduce emissions.That was a dangerous thing for Obama to say that close to the election. Like my stomach needs this.
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I am no longer ignorant of the way of things in the world. I need to go vote for Obama!
Did you see the AP story about how "The World" is hoping for a less arrogant America and therefore an Obama win?
Here's the article. Sorry if it makes my pst really long.
BERLIN - The world was riveted by the election drama unfolding Tuesday in the United States, inspired by Barack Obama or simply relieved that - whoever wins - the Bush administration was coming to an end.
From Berlin's Brandenburg Gate to the small town of Obama, Japan, the globe geared up to celebrate a fresh start for America.
In Germany, where more than 200,000 flocked to see Obama this summer as he moved to burnish his foreign policy credentials during a trip to the Middle East and Europe, the election dominated television ticker crawls, newspaper headlines and Web sites.
Hundreds of thousands prepared to party through the night to watch the outcome of an election having an impact far beyond America's shores. Among the more irreverent festivities planned in Paris: a "Goodbye George" party to bid farewell to Bush.
"Like many French people, I would like Obama to win because it would really be a sign of change," said Vanessa Doubine, shopping Tuesday on the Champs-Elysees. "I deeply hope for America's image that it will be Obama."
Europeans had a sense of the momentous change that was about to unfold, whether the winner was Obama or Republican John McCain.
"America is electing a new president, but for the Germans, for Europeans, it is electing the next world leader," said Alexander Rahr, director of the German Council on Foreign Relations.
"We see new challenges coming up, not only Islamic extremism, but a newly resurgent Russia, China, India, Pakistan, North Korea - everywhere there are fires," he said. "And we, as Europeans, can't solve these problems without America. A world without American leadership is, for most Europeans, a world of chaos."
Germany's mass-circulation daily Bild lionized the Republican as "the War Hero" and running mate Sarah Palin as "the Beautiful Unknown."
In Berlin, Republicans Abroad organized a "November Surprise Election Party" to watch live "how the Republican ticket McCain/Palin comes from behind and leaves the 'liberal elite media' in Europe and the United States puzzled."
In much of the Islamic world, Muslims expressed hope that the U.S. would seek compromise rather than confrontation.
The Bush administration alienated Muslims by mistreating prisoners at its detention center for terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and inmates at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison - human rights violations also condemned worldwide.
"I hope Obama wins (because) of the need of the world to see the U.S. represent a more cosmopolitan or universal political attitude," said Rais Yatim, the foreign minister of mostly Muslim Malaysia.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai pledged that Afghanistan "will remain a close friend of the United States" regardless of who wins.
"The new president will have an impact on the economic and political situation in my country," said Muhammad al-Thaheri, 48, a civil servant in Saudi Arabia. Like so many around the world, he was rooting for Obama "because he will change the path the U.S. is on under Bush."
Nizar al-Kortas, a columnist for Kuwait's Al-Anbaa newspaper, saw an Obama victory as "a historic step to change the image of the arrogant American administration to one that is more acceptable in the world."
Yet McCain enjoyed a strong current of support in countries such as Israel, where he is perceived as tougher on Iran.
Israeli leaders, who consider the U.S. their closest and most important ally, have not openly declared a preference. But privately, they have expressed concern about Obama, who has alarmed some by saying he would be ready to hold a dialogue with Tehran.
Taking a cigarette break on a Jerusalem street corner, bank employee Leah Nizri, 53, said Obama represented potentially frightening change.
"I think he'll be pleasant to Israel, but he will make changes," she said. "He's too young. I think that especially in a situation of a world recession, where things are so unclear in the world, McCain would be better than Obama."
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown clung to convention by refusing to say which candidate he wants to see win. Regardless of the outcome, he told Al-Arabiya television while on a tour of the Gulf, "history has been made in this campaign."
London Mayor Boris Johnson - a Conservative - felt less constrained about rooting for the liberal Obama.
"For those who have become disenchanted with America - including many Americans - (Obama) offers the hope of re-igniting the love affair," he said.
And other Europeans made much of Obama's ethnicity. "It's a sort of pardon of America for its slave past," said Alain Barret, a bank teller in Paris. "It lets America turn an important page in its history."
"It would be fantastic to have a non-white president," added Letisha Brown, a Londoner.
In Baghdad, a jaded Mohammed al-Tamimi said he didn't think U.S. policy on Iraq would change. Even so, "we hope that the new American president will open a new page with our country."
Kenyans made their allegiance clear: Scores packed churches on Tuesday to pray for Obama, whose late father was born in the East African nation, and hailed the candidate - himself born in Hawaii - as a "son of the soil."
"Tonight we are not going to sleep," said Valentine Wambi, 23, a student at the University of Nairobi. "It will be celebrations throughout."
Kenyans believe an Obama victory wouldn't change their lives much, but that hasn't stopped them from splashing his picture on minibuses and selling T-shirts with his name and likeness. Kenyans were planning to gather around radios and TV sets starting Tuesday night as the results come in.
In the sleepy Japanese coastal town of Obama - which translates as "little beach" - images of him adorned banners along a main shopping street, and preparations for an election day victory party were in full swing.
Election fever also ran high in Vietnam, where McCain was held as a prisoner of war for more than five years after being shot down in Hanoi during a 1967 bombing run.
"He's patriotic," said Le Lan Anh, a Vietnamese novelist and real estate tycoon. "As a soldier, he came here to destroy my country, but I admire his dignity."
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Kole reported from Vienna, Austria. AP correspondents worldwide contributed."
First, I hate that they say "The World". Like it's a guy on the street they approached for his opinion. It just sounds dumb.
Now I can't say I disagree with needing a change of leadership that will help foster better relations with other countries. But man, that had to be one of, if not the most, one sided, biased and unfair articles I have ever read by what's supposed to be an objective journalist.
I'm pissed off that the field of journalism has become so damned biased and opinionated. It isn't what being a journalist is supposed to be. There are too many people out there calling themselves journalists that are really activists.
Sometimes it's important to just report facts as facts without injecting your own damn opinion or point of view!
That article was embarrassingly biased and was a perfect example of POV reporting, which is basically nothing more than an op-ed piece. They used to confine op-eds to one story, not the whole damn paper!
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the only thing that makes me sort of want McCain to win is that that turd Brown thinks he can repeat History by being the first world leader to suck on, erm meet, Obama. The toad thinks that it will give him a fillup in the polls and postpone his inevitable trip to the unemployment office.
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Yes we need coal...clean coal. Which Obama's plan wil lforce companies to invest in.
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Here's the thing: it's been common knowledge that the rest of the world did not want Bush re-elected. They seem to be tired of the world being 'force-fed' the American way, and see Obama as 'real' change, right or wrong. I work at a company that has corporate HQ in the U.S., but worldwide operations in Europe, Latin America, Australia, etc. All of them would constantly ask if we (our department) liked Bush, his policies, etc. And now they have been asking who we would be voting for. They feel like diplomacy has had a shit taken on it for the past eight years.
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It was tactically stupid and ignorant of the way things work.
We need coal because to shut it down without having a viable source or sources of alternative fuel would leave us seriously without an adequate energy supply.
Another thing I don't get: If Obama is so influenced by how Europeans do things, why not follow the French model of nuclear power? They get like 80% of their power from nuclear reactors. They are a much smaller country than us, so how are they storing the waste? Just see how they're doing it and see if we can do it here.
I know there's a big feeling of "Not in my backyard!" but that could be said of ANY energy source. Do you really want a Wind Farm blocking your view of a beautiful sunset?
We are going to keep growing as a country and we need a lot more energy sources and transmission and storage facilities to be built sooner rather than later. It is a problem that isn't just going to go away if we ignore it. It won't cost Obama a lot of votes and he'll still win, but he made a huge mistake in playing to the crowd like that. -
But there must be a balance. It does not benefit anyone to ram environmental policy down companies' throats to the detriment of the economy. Of course it would be great if we could get clean and alternate means of energy within a few years, but that ain't gonna happen. Now I realize we've been dragging our feet for years and years on this, and we should have already made some measurable progress by weeing ourselves off of oil and traditional coal....But we haven't. And forcing companies out of business to adhere to environmental regulations that are physically impossible to meet in such a short period of time is not a viable answer.
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that not only could we not believe that he won in the first fucking place, but we were A-fucking-stounded that anyone voted him in again. The one thing that makes Bush the worst president in history, more than anything else, is that after 9/11 there was a massive pro-America feeling in the world. For the first time ever, America was generally admired, sympathised with and liked. And that fucking moron managed to squander a reserve of goodwill the likes of which will probably never be seen again. The totally undeserved crappy global image America has lies on the shoulders of those fucking plankton that voted him in. Especially those that voted him in for the second time.
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Most of the rest of the world would favor an Obama presidency.
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Nov 04, 2008 10:58:24 AM CST
Just pillow talk, dude I'd tell them to mind their own business!
by snake foreskin
I can't believe they're asking you who you voted for at work. That's not at all cool. That's an HR issue if ever I heard of one.
What if you were a McCain supporter? Wouldn't you feel really uncomfortable? Not being a McCain supporter - I know that would make you uncomfortable! You know what I mean. -
Why would I do that? We butt into every other country's business? I think after the past eight years, they have every right to be concerned with who the next American President is. Because right or wrong, everyone takes our lead. Like Jarv just mentioned, the U.S. squandered all the goodwill that was created from the 9/11 tragedy. This is the single most fuck up that the Bush administration did. Think of how much more policy could have been pushed through at the world level if we didn't basically say fuck off to the rest of the world?
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But still, that's a biased piece of shit article. I'm sure Obama is who the other countries would prefer (our enemies included), but the article was written like a love story to Obama. That's bad journalism.
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...I love those moments when he gives his smart ass eye roll and says "THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND SAFETY........" Of course highlighting ENVIRONMENTAL and SAFETY with his stiff quotation mark, liver spotted fingers. If you notice-- he does the quotation thing on anything he doesn't give a fuck about. Just like the Women's "HEALTH" concerns as a reason to have an abortion.
Out of touch, negative, spineless piece of shit. That is why you will never be President you soulless old fuck. Now go back to Arizona and continue to rot. -
myself if I was voting for McCain.Palin...*shudder!*
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We are on the brink of an environmental catastrophe. Caps on emissions and penalties for those emissions are necessary to slow down the process of global warming. All I'm talking about is stopping the building of new traditional coal plants. There is no excuse for building them.
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Pathetic. Fuck off you insincere piece of shit.
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and workplace ethics are supposed to steer clear of religion, politics and personal issues.
There's no excuse just because "the world wants to know what's going on". Let them pick up a paper or watch TV or look it up on the internet. I think it's pretty damn clear. They should respect your privacy. -
Oh so you're a strong opponent of all forms of domestic spying as well? Good to hear.
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Oh shut the fuck up. I grew up on Lake Erie and our horizon was marred by a giant steaming nuclear cooling tower pumping out billows of steam. Compared to that some wind turbines sounds nice.
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TRANSPORT. Which due to the government wanting all waste stored at Yucca would be necessary. Plants can store their own waste for hundreds of years while the government works out viable means of recyclying most of the material. But becasue of the perceived security risk the government wants it all stored at Yucca and that requires transporting hazardous nuclear waste across the country by rail and truck. Not good. In case you've been living in a cave our rail system is antiquated and dangerous. And do you want nuclear waste being hauled on the turnpike next to you? Accidents happen. I know. I work for a chemical and hazmat emergency calling center and we average hundreds of incidents a day involving transport of dangerous materials.
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I don't like the idea of having the FBI or CIA or NSA or whoever collecting files on all of us. I was reading a tech journal recently about how to access your FBI file, what to look for in order to make sense of it, etc. What the hell is that all about?
I think government needs to stay the hell out of my home and my life. We have let it get out of hand. Government is far too big as it is.
That's a big reason why I have a problem with Obama. It's a difference of mindset. I don't think Americans should rely on government to take care of our problems. Obama seems like he wants Americans to "sit back and relax and leave the driving to us!" It's just wrong.
The only thing I would allow as far as domestic "spying" goes is if we have other evidence of illegal activities going on. If someone is undergoing investigation of money laundering or funding of terror groups or something, then wire taps and other forms of surveillance might be justified. But fishing expeditions should not be allowed. That's an abuse of power. -
I would hate to look out my window at a big phallus pumping steaming spooge into the air.
But wind farms are just as annoying to look at. They aren't quaint little windmills like you see in Holland. They're hundreds of feet tall and there are always dozens of them. Hell, I hate seeing all the power lines and power stations strewn all about the city.
Anyway, my point was that no matter what the type, any energy production facilities are going to make people say, "Not in my backyard!" But they still need to be built. Nuclear seems to have the potential for producing great amounts of electricity in fairly clean and reliable plants. I know it sucks to have one sitting on your horizon. But it would suck just as much to have a big power station there, a coal plant, a bunch of wind turbines or any other large structure. -
Not that that shit matters. And guess what? It does matter how the rest of the world thinks of us because we see fighting a global war on terrorism in a global economy while trying to eliminate global warming. We have to work together and actually abide by international treaties that we have signed. No more American exceptionslism
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I actually like the sight of wind turbines. I'd be more than happy to have a bunch in my backyard. And put the VLA in my front yard and I'd be in heaven.
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Domestic spying has nothing whatsoever to do with the size of government. Give me a break with that Republican bullshit. SMALL GOVERNMENT!! BLA BLA BLA........bullshit. There is no doubt in my mind the size of government would be exactly the same with either O or M as President. Small government my fucking ass. That goes along with the trickle down economics, Republicans continue to live in another era. Its the fucking 80s people...get some new campaign slogans you fucking out of touch douche bags.
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http://tinyurl.com/6l2jg3
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You see any brothers in Cloud City? Look at his house boy man, that white Patrick Stewart lookin' mutha fucka'. Lando be saying -- BITCH, YOU MINE.
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are ugly. Sorry guys, but we have them and pretty they are not. You also need fucking hundreds of them to power a lightbulb- one or 2 Windmills doesn't look too bad, it's when you have hundreds of them that it's an eyesore.
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Find the TB where a few of the right wingers were claiming a landslide for Mccain. I believe that was the same one ccchhhrrrism said there would be riots in Harlem on November 4th.
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I didn't see anything about riots in Harlem on a scan of this but he does talk about Obama losing.
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I feel like it's the night before Christmas. I'm excited to see what gets left under the tree. Hope? Or four years-worth of coal up all our stockings. My money's on hope.
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I kid.
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But the brother is smoove. I give him that.
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Thats funny you said that. I was thinking of posting he's the intergalactic Uncle Tom earlier.....but I thought naaaaawww....its election day.
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Then come back here and Bitch Voters!
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Why would you assume our enemies would prefer Obama? I assume the opposite and I'll explain why: Because the Bush years weakened the US and resulted in a recruiting bonanza for al Qaida. McCain is a lot closer to Bush than Obama. If you think they prefer Obama because he's weaker than McCain I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts they and/or you will be proven wrong ... Obama is no shrinking violet.
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POST 9/11 "For the first time ever, America was generally admired, sympathised with and liked"
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if mccain had picked mitt romney, as i thought he would, as his running mate he would have probably easily won the election.
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I can only speak from a small sampling, but some of my co-workers would have voted for McCain if he had picked another VP candidate. But some of these guys were down right appalled at his choice of Palin, which led to them having doubts about his decision-making in general.
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Its hypothetical, and who fucking cares? If Obama had picked Danny Glover as his V.P. he probably would have lost.
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I think in a way it may come to that...but not in a cowardly sense.
If something heavy goes down ( like Biden predicts)... if Iran were to get a nuclear device etc (which Obama says, is a game-changer) and the United States has to impose an embargo or a Naval...he will have to ask himself..." I, Barack Obama, must be hated by people in Berlin. There’s no more Victory Column great extravaganzas for me. There’s no more fawning interviews with Der Spiegel. It’s going to be hatred from those people. I’m going to be a unilateralist pre-empter, and I’m going to do that, and all the people in the Muslim world and the Arab world that love me and fawn over me are going to hate me as worse than you know what. Okay, I’m willing to do that for a principle."
Do you think he’s going to be willing to do that, or John McCain? I’m sorry, but I don’t think that all of that cheap rhetoric about invading Pakistan and a game-changer in Iran is anything other than rhetoric, because I think the problem with Obama is he’s bought into the idea of Vero Possumus, the new presidential seal that he’s promulgating, that the seas are going to cease to rise, that the planet won’t heat up, this is the change that we’ve been waiting for. And he really believe in this Messianic sense that people love him for himself. And he’s not going to be willing to give up that easily.
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So are you saying there's no in-between, just extremes? Either you piss everyone off or you cater to everyone? That's not a valid view to have.And how do you know all of it is "cheap rhetoric"? That would be like me saying if McCain was elected, diplomacy would not even be an option, and we would enter are third front and "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran".
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i think its an interesting hypothetical, experts and intellectuals go back and analyze historical hypotheticals all the time. But i guess cause you don't give a shit that means its stupid. thanks.
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"I for one welcome our new Socialist overlords ..."
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You might be right that Obama believes all that shit but it would be pretty lucky if you were, since I've seen no evidence that he does think that way. I mean really, what are you basing this idea that he's so in love with himself and with the idea of others loving him that he would be in effect paralyzed by it? That sounds ridiculous to me.
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If this is going the way Rove thinks it is (IF I said IF) then the bloodshed and infighting among the Repubs will take everyone back with it's ferocity.
Leading the charge will be the likes of Romney and all those who think Palin was a fucking stupid idea. (particularly if it stops them from being the Nominee in 4 years.)
Palin had best get used to doing press conferences REAL quick because she's going to have to hold her own against those in the Republican Party who will go for her and her NeoCon sponsors throat in Republican the civil war.
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And easily disproven by this very election. If you believe the republican rhetoric - and gauging by the nitwit idea you just postulated, you do, half the electorate hates his guts. That is half of the AMURRICAN electorate. You know, the people he must govern and live amongst. Let me clarify, because you seem a bit dim, any politician, from any party, who is paralyzed from acting because he fears what half of the people will think about him - the half who did not vote for him (let alone people in a foreign country)any politician who was so paralyzed, would never run for office because he would be afraid - not of his own constituents, but of the people who did not vote for him who would not like him. So your idiotic postulation that he would not act because people who did not even vote for him would hate him, is simply motarded.
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I'll be immolating myself on the White House lawn if McCain wins so if that happens, it's been nice knowing you folks. Aside from Coughlin's of course.
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If Obama is an agent of some foreign country, or worse, a UN plant! * GASP* Yes, it is diabolical enough to be true. Obama, hates America, so would sell us out in a heartbeat, to please the puppet masters of the UN. 'Ware the black helicopters! 'Ware!
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Nov 04, 2008 2:37:16 PM CST
I dunno....I still feel Palin might go back to Alaska....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
...never to return again. Not like tomorrow....I'm sure you'll see her around cackling for the next few months. But I just feel there is a big possibility that she got the taste for politics on a national stage-- and she didn't like what she saw.
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said from my company about where Palin will be in two years:spread in Playboy.
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Stupid ass, he went to the wrong poll.
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Nov 04, 2008 2:45:00 PM CST
PALIN WILL BE SPENDING THE NEXT TWO YEARS IN GRAMMAR SCHOOL
by bringingsexyback
learning how to speak in actual sentences. Palin/Trig '12!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ817sAbuLo
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She might spread 'em for Guns and Ammo, though.
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Palin, like her or not, is a superstar in the Republican party. She has already indicated she will not go away, regardless the outcome. The stories that came out about infighting between her and McCains camp came from Mitt Romney loyalists working for McCain. They know they have to undermine her now, and for the next four years, if they have any hope of resting conyrol. She has frightened the hell out of republicans, because she is a genuine star of the conservative movement.
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Palin will become a FoxNews commentator. I'd bet the rent on it.
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Nov 04, 2008 3:01:03 PM CST
Okay, fess up. Who opened up a new ID called McGooCain?
by snake foreskin
I'm guessing Skyway Moaters since he's obsessed with me. I could be wrong though. Anyway, the "joke" was a poor one, but I would never read that post and then go crying to Mommy to ban whoever wrote it. If you are so infantile as to feel vindicated by writing gibberish, write it all damn day. Whatever makes you feel special. Just know it isn't witty, just annoying.
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Nov 04, 2008 3:01:07 PM CST
I CAN'T WAIT FOR NICHOLLE WALLACE'S TELL-ALL ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN
by bringingsexyback
She was the McKKKain aide in the middle of the Clothinggate scandal. She may very well be the one who called Palin a whackjob, too.
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I've seen him in other poli-talkbacks.
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You haven't heard one story about that. Not that it really matters. Except now she can go back to Alaska and serve as Governor for a few more years.
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I haven't calmed down one bit, and will continue to lobby to get your slimy bigoted mullet-topped carcass banned until you are, or until I get banned myself for trying, you disgusting scum bag.
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Romney would destroy her in a primary. And if he didn't run and she was able to get in for the Republican nominee-- it would be pretty easy for Hilary to take her out in 2012. Palin is a very divisive figure. Look at her poll numbers. I think she would do far worse than McCain.
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You are mentally unstable for being so damn obsessed, Skyway. Why are you so full of hate for me? You need to learn to get along with others, weirdo. I bet we'll hear about you on the evening news in a couple of weeks.
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Big deal. This in no way exonerates her, and she will face some very rough road ahead in Alaskan politics. She even threw Ted Stevens under the bus last week. I think she will fade into the wilderness, only to surface for periodic battles against witchcraft.
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Seriously? You play the victim just like him.
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She is surrounded by ugly women who hate her. I bet the only reason she stays there is that she's the pretty one. If they brought on a pretty young liberal, Elisabeth would probably quit the show. Good news for her is she'd probably be welcomed with open arms at Fox News. Maybe she could have a show with Sarah Palin.
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Nov 04, 2008 3:20:48 PM CST
Snake Foreskin -- I'm pretty sure you are Coughlins....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
The more I look at your posts....the more you sound exactly like him.
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I just don't appreciate being threatened with banning every other post fom this guy. I think it's weird as hell. Don't you?
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Nov 04, 2008 3:22:54 PM CST
just tell us if you are Coughlins.....be a man.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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Might give one pause to consider that said poster was once banned under another name. . .
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Nov 04, 2008 3:27:03 PM CST
I think the silence confirms it. SNAKE = COUGHLINS!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
The embargo is on!! Ignore this fucker!!
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Unlike Obama's grandma, who just tried to raise him right.
Ted Stevens is a scumbag who took money for political favors. If she hadn't thrown him under the bus it would have been worse for her.
That said, I'm glad Palin won't be VP. I couldn't stand seeing her wink at me during a tie-breaker on CSPAN. The good news about this election is that Congress will be so one-sided, there probably won't be any ties to break.
And if Joe Biden has another aneurysm, he'll be even funnier to watch on the highlight reels. I swear, he's one awkward moment away from being diagnosed with Tourette's. -
Soon, soon. . .
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Nov 04, 2008 3:28:24 PM CST
Throwing the BAN threat around is a BITCH MADE movie.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
If Snake is Coughlins, he will self destruct soon on his own.
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IGNORE HIM.
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I know you're just yankin' my wank, but please stop. I skip over every damn post he writes. He's a bore. If I'm that bad, I may join HoboCode in immolating myself on the White House lawn. Of course I'll be alone because Hobo was only going to do that if McCain won and we know that ain't happenin!
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I don't think you guys are taking her lack of a medical history seriously enough. And if you think some intrepid reporter won't be able to do some digging and come up with the truth then you don't give enough credit to the press.Between the dirt her campaign handlers will have and what is sure to be a bomb hiding in her medical records, Palin is done. Believe me.
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Skyway Moaters was. Amazing how this gets all twisted into some surreal episode of The Twilight Zone and I am accused of being other posters and throwing around the ban threat. Damn, you are a bunch of pussified freakaloos!
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Holy Fuck Balls! This dude is a total Republicunt. He's not even in a position to buy a business that makes 250k, and him personally doesn't even make near that amount. He doesn't even answer the questions, like Palin, then he's rude like McKKKain.
I wish someone would of on camera slap his bald head in the dirt. I shaved my head because I WANT to be bald, not because it was starting to show naturally. Owww, where's my limelight, please listen to me. I want to be important. FUCK OFF!
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I'd watch the ban hammer if I were you!
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I didn't say you are throwing the BAN threat around. I said ANYONE throwing it around is BITCH MADE. I agree....its annoying. When I first started raising shit people would tell me left and right, "You're gonna get banned....enjoy being banned....WAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA".
Feels like a kid ratting you out in 3rd Grade. -
You should be okay. Just watch that line. Oh, see your toe is just touching it. Be vigilant!
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so gullible and brainwashed beyond belief. She'd be ok if she'd sow that mouth shut. I'd give up a blowjob for not hearing her retarded psycho babble.
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I'm going to get my third free coffee at Starbucks. Hey, they offered!
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....she responded with this today, when asked if she voted for Ted Stevens. “I am also exercising my right to privacy, and I don't have to tell anybody who I vote for, nobody does, and that’s really cool about America also."
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... fired electricity generation are so woefully ignorant about climate change that it would be laughable if such a mindset wasn't so dangerous to all life on the planet. There's no such thing as "clean coal": http://tinyurl.com/5rtr74 Get this straight you nihilistic dipshits: If the entire human race doesn't make a RADICAL shift away from carbon emitting fossil fuel power generation very, very soon this place is toast. The entire biosphere could begin to collapse in as little as 50 years, extinctions on an apocalyptic scale. This is not a matter of opinion. The world’s environmental science community is in nearly unanimous agreement about the knife edge on which the planet is poised. The only real differences amount to little more than semantic details. The "deep marine layer" is already in trouble, (where the oxygen comes from boys): http://tinyurl.com/66h8yt If we don’t all wake up and wean ourselves off our addiction to fossil fuels, and I mean like YESTERDAY, never mind that they are finite resource and we’re going to run out anyway, (assuming there’s anyone left around to burn the stuff), will render this planet a lifeless rock. You guys are like the proverbial toad continuing to sit in the saucepan as the water begins to boil…
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Check this out. It's from Wonkette so it's completely SFW.An African-American notifies Sarah Palin that he is the only minority at her rally and asks how this can be improved upon. Palin replies that she knows what racism is like, because Todd is native Alaskan and, get this, “We live it.”A black fellow tells Sarah Palin that he is the only minority at her rally and asks how this can be improved upon. Palin replies that she knows what racism is like, because Todd is native Alaskan and, get this, “We live it.”A black fellow tells Sarah Palin that he is the only minority at her rally and asks how this can be improved upon. Palin replies that she knows what racism is like, because Todd is native Alaskan and, get this, “We live it.”http://tinyurl.com/6khegqShe's a monumental idiot. Makes Biden look like a rocket surgeon.
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I wouldn't want to offend anyone with the "r" word.
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Meant to post the URL and instead it posted the text from the article itself twice. Odd.
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That's where the hotness really is. And the pollution.
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Damn! That last one made me sound developmentally disabled!
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Nov 04, 2008 4:01:16 PM CST
Snake Foreskin -- so did you vote Obama yet or what?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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I heard she wants to change the state bird of Alaska to a beaver!
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And I didn't have to worry about how to get to the polls. I saw Oprah and told her I wanted to go vote for Obama so she gave me a ride.
On the way back I told her I'd love to go vote for him again and again but I didn't have the money for gas. She felt bad for me (and my mullet) so she bought me a car!
At first I thought that was cool, but now I realized I have to pay taxes on it and register the damn thing! Bitch!
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Pull a few tricks with a few Johns...fill yourself up with spunk and you can fill up your car with gas. Works like a charm.
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Palin or the black man at a republican rally. Was that Lynn Swann?
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That's like touching a black man's radio. Or at least that's what Chris Tucker says.
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...when Obama is announced the winner tonight at 11:48 PM, that he will lunge in the air flinging his arms back and forth like a furious 9 year old, until they crack back into place. And then there will be a moment of solace when he realizes for the first time in over 30 years he can lift his arms straight up above his head!! HOLY SHIT!! HOLY FUCKING SHIT!! He'll be giggling as he jumps up and down before hitting the floor and slumping over on his side with open eyes.....dead from a massive heart attack at 72 years of age, on November 4th, 2008........
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...what you're talking about Snake. A BIGOT hate-speech flinging jackass and an ignoramus to boot, go figure. Do you have any concept of how much C02 is released into the atmosphere to produce the staggering quantity of cement need to construct a nuclear power generation plant? Or how fantastically expensive it is to actually get one up and running? Even if we could find an acceptable way of dealing with the waste, and is doubtful in the extreme, nuclear is a STUPID investment. On the same acreage that the nuclear plant would occupy, solar panel technology available to us RIGHT NOW could be used to construct a solar power farm that would generate as much electricity as the horrendously expensive, horribly polluting, nuclear plant at dramatically less cost monetarily, AND, would generate NO pollution, and no toxic waste that would remain deadly radioactive for 10,000 years.
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I'M GOING TO FUCKING VOTE!!
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At all.
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after being tortured in a Vietnamese prison camp.
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Oh God. I'm running out the door so I dont have time to coddle you. Tortured my fucking ass. Do a little research on your own. The V.C.'s have said on record he was far more valuable to them undamaged. After years and years of convincing the public it was the brutal V.C.'s that broke his arms, we come to find out the crash actually broke his arms. Listen to the accounts of other POWS in Hanoi. There are numerous accounts of the V.C. guards referring to McCain as "The Prince." And curiously he is always freshly shaven with clean looking clothes in pics and interviews inside the camp. You know what most POW's looked like inside those camps?
McCain is a spineless piece of shit. He has been lying to this country since he was a kid. Riding on a myth he has perfected over the years of being some sort of great American hero. Fuck you John McCain....gargle my jizz and shut the fuck up. -
See his little dissertation in the other SNL/Palin thread at 10/27/2008 10:09:43
http://tinyurl.com/6gvt4d
"Anchorite wasn't being racist, not from what I read. He said whites were voting for Obama to feel less guilt. Imagine that? How racist! And he wasn't calling anyone an N-word. He said that Obama fit the description of the "Magical Negro™". I just googled it and a Magical Negro™ is a black man who comes out of nowhere to save the white hero. That is why some people are voting for him, to be saved. Then someone said Anchorite was really being a racist, calling Obama an n-word. He didn't! He did write about using the word "niggardly" and people not knowing what it means and freaking out. It means penny-pinching, not anything racist. But some dude got fired a few years ago for saying niggardly. I heard about that PC bullshit on the news and it made me laugh. And then look what happened! Anchorite got his ass banned. Talk about irony. You need to stop trying to shut people down when they don't agree with you. PC=pussified. Like Chuck Norris. Snake/Mullet in '08! "
He Uses term Niggardly which I am well aware has no connection to the racial slur but is easily misinterpreted by most people. Then sheepishly grins and protests "What who me? I never intended any offense."
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I thought he was Coughlins. I still do.
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Anchorite, Anchorite is a man!
Gwhuuuguckkkmlaaabguuuu
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I appreciate the effort and will award the 1000 cool points. Maybe I'm crazy, but I swear he said something like that. Oh well, if you collect 10000 cool points they can be redeemed for one meal at Imperial Chinese Buffet located in Erie,PA. Travel and travel arrangements to be made by winners.
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But I'll research it. Excuse me for believing the accounts I've read in like a thousand articles. And you ARE going to have to coddle me because I wet my diapers. Diarrhea this time. Who gives a shit if he can't lift his arms because he was tortured or shot down? He was putting his goddamn life on the line. I'm sorry but I'm never going to disparage somebody's service just because they've run a dirty campaign or they're a republican. If they are a war profiteer or a war criminal that changes things. And you are really going to believe the propaganda of the Vietnamese jailers? That is such fucking bullshit and is contrary to the evidence of the MANY Vietnam vets who were tortured.
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By Chitose Suzuki, AP
HAIPHONG, Vietnam (AP) — John McCain has an unusual endorsement — from the Vietnamese jailer who says he held him captive for about five years as a POW and now considers him a friend. "If I were an American voter, I would vote for Mr. John McCain," Tran Trong Duyet said Friday, sitting in his living room in the northern city of Haiphong, surrounded by black-and-white photos of a much younger version of himself and former Vietnam War prisoners. At the same time, he denies prisoners of war were tortured. Despite detailed POW accounts and physical wounds, Duyet claims the presumed Republican presidential nominee made up beatings and solitary confinement in an attempt to win votes. His statements seem to echo the communist leadership's overall line on America: It insists the torture claims are fabricated, but that Vietnam now considers the U.S. a friend and wants to lay the past to rest. Duyet said one of the reasons he likes McCain for president is the candidate's willingness to forgive and look to the future. Duyet, 75, grew testy during the interview when repeatedly questioned about torture and why so many other former POWs say they too were mistreated. He preferred to talk about McCain as an old buddy. His photo collection does not include one of him with POW McCain, and he said they have not met on any of McCain's postwar visits to Vietnam. But Duyet said he often met the young Navy pilot when off duty, that McCain would correct his English, and that he had a great sense of humor. And although they never saw eye-to-eye on the war that killed some 58,000 Americans and up to 3 million Vietnamese, he said they listened to each others' views. "He's tough, has extreme political views and is very conservative," Duyet said. "He's very loyal to the U.S. military, to his beliefs and to his country. In all of our debates, he never admitted that the war was a mistake." Duyet also talked about prisoner volleyball games and said the captives were fed the same meals as average wartime Vietnamese in Hanoi. The same propaganda is depicted in photos of smiling American POWs displayed at the Hoa Lo prison, now a museum for tourists. McCain spent 5 1/2 years behind bars in Hanoi. His flight suit and parachute were recently added to the museum display, which includes a recording of bombs falling and air raid sirens shrieking. McCain still bears the evidence of his wounds and has described being repeatedly bound and beaten by his captors. After his plane was hit by a surface-to-air missile during a bombing mission over Hanoi in 1967, McCain ejected and suffered a broken leg, two broken arms, and was briefly knocked unconscious. The Vietnamese mob who found him smashed his shoulder and he was bayoneted. He says medical attention was delayed in an attempt to get him to reveal information and he was held in solitary confinement for over two years. Other former POWs also say they were tortured by communist forces at the jail, and many say they still suffer physical pain from it. "They are liars. What they said is not true," said Duyet, who was a jailer at Hoa Lo from 1968 until the POW release in 1973, serving as prison chief the last three years. Duyet claimed McCain "invented that story that he was tortured and beaten to win votes." Asked for a response, the McCain campaign referred The Associated Press to Orson Swindle, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who was imprisoned with McCain. Swindle said Duyet "has no credibility on every utterance he makes." "For him to say that no one was tortured, he's a damn liar, and the history books in the aftermath of Vietnam were replete with stories of what prisoners went through. I've got friends that died up there from torture." "He says John McCain would make a great president. How the hell does he know? He has absolutely no credibility," Swindle added. McCain has returned to Vietnam several times and visited what is left of the old prison, whose pilots' section has been replaced by a gleaming high-rise of offices, apartments and shops. McCain was instrumental in pushing for normal relations between the two former foes, and the friendship was highlighted by Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung's trip to see President Bush at the White House on Wednesday. McCain's wife, Cindy, was in southern Vietnam last week doing charity work. She said if her husband wins the election the couple would delight in paying a presidential visit to the country. If that happens, Duyet said, "I hope to meet with him again as two old friends. At that time, I would toast to congratulate him as U.S. president. "We would talk about the future, and we would not talk about the past."
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They have made advances in this field with better more efficient plant design, safer and yielding more energy, but put the waste in your back yard then. I know that they are working on the technology trying to speed up the decay, but still it's not worth it.
Nuclear power plants are extremely expensive to make. Solar, wind, algae, and others are the ones to invest in. And the most important is energy storage i.e batteries. This needs to be invested big time, this is what will fuel our cars. Create energy via solar, wind,etc, but store it in super batteries. There's some cool shit yet to come that we have seen yet.
They now make solar film that's printed out and more efficient. Also individual power generators will be invented where they will have to pass a law (supported by the power companies)that you can only rent them or some stupid shit.
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is everywhere on these boards! Kill all the liberals! Kill them, the Karl Marxist pussified, commies all of them!
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Call me crazy or naive.
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Just sayin
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Regardless who wins, y'know the other side is gonna be pissed.Ah, the suspense is killing me.
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it's just douchey! I bet you went around for a year saying "yeah baby" after Austin Powers came out as well! shouldn't you have moved on to "why so serious?" by now?
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Kill him!
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Yeah baby, yeah.
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Nov 04, 2008 5:09:54 PM CST
The election day jitters have put some of you over the edge!
by snake foreskin
McGooCain is batshit crazy! And Captain Rightwing is right there with him He's tryin' to steal my lines and the mullet don't like that shit!
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It's got my legs! Kill it, quick!
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No evidence McCain was a traitor
Pants on fire!
In an echo of the attacks from the 2000 South Carolina primary that dealt a critical blow to Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign, a new flyer says the Arizona senator is a traitor.
It says that when he was a POW, McCain was a “Hanoi Hilton songbird” who collaborated with the enemy.
But it provides scant evidence to back up this claim and it is strongly contradicted by many other accounts reviewed by PolitiFact: interviews with other POWs, an author who has written a McCain biography and the senator’s own accounts.
Robert Timberg, author of John McCain: An American Odyssey , who has interviewed many POWs who served with McCain, said there’s no evidence that he ever collaborated with the North Vietnamese. “I’ve never known of any occasion in which Sen. McCain provided the North Vietnamese with anything of value,” Timberg said.
The flyer was sent to about 80 media organizations in South Carolina and is posted on the group’s Web site. The flyer probably would have been ignored, but the McCain campaign issued a statement calling it “a vicious attack.”
The flyer has a caricature of a surly-looking McCain in a prison cell under the words, “Hanoi Hilton Songbird.” The second page is headlined “FACT SHEET: Military Record of John Sidney McCain III” and it begins with some accurate biographical information.
The flyer contains 1½ pages of criticisms of McCain, but only a few support the accusation that he was helping the enemy:
• That he told his captors “Okay, I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.”
• That the Hanoi news media reported he had given information about his flight, rescue ships and the order of U.S. attacks.
• That he broke the military code because he answered questions from a Spanish psychiatrist who had apparently been cooperating with the North Vietnamese.
There is some truth to these claims, but collectively they do not prove McCain was involved in “collaborations with the enemy,” as the flyer alleges.
In his memoir Faith of My Fathers, McCain says that he initially offered the information because he was badly injured and afraid of dying. But, he wrote, “I didn’t intend to keep my word.”
When he was later interrogated, McCain gave his ship’s name and squadron number and confirmed the target of his failed mission, he wrote. He also gave the names of the Green Bay Packers’ offensive line and said they were members of his squadron.
Asked to identify future targets, he mentioned North Vietnamese cities that U.S. planes had already bombed.
George “Bud” Day and Orson Swindle, fellow POWs, told PolitiFact that POWs sometimes were forced to talk when they were tortured, but they tried to tell lies to mislead their captors.
“We were all tortured and we wrote confessions under the pressure of torture,” said Swindle, who was a cellmate with McCain and is active in his campaign. “John McCain never collaborated with the enemy. He, like every one of us, submitted to severe torture. John McCain did nothing dishonorable. He was heroic.”
At one point, McCain broke down and signed a confession. But Timberg, the biographer, said McCain deliberately used misspellings, grammatical errors and Communist jargon to show he was writing under duress: “I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died, and the Vietnamese people saved my life . . . ”
Day, a Medal of Honor winner who also is supporting McCain’s campaign, said the flyer is “the most outrageous f------ lie I’ve ever heard.”
The man behind the flyer is Gerard “Jerry” W. Kiley, 61, of Garnerville, N.Y., who says he served in Vietnam for about a year. He describes his group as a one-man operation unaffiliated with any political party or campaign. He says he opposes McCain because of the senator’s efforts to normalize relations with the Vietnamese communist government and because, in his view, McCain has helped the U.S. government keep information about POWs classified.
“John McCain has made sure the information concerning the lives of Americans we clearly abandoned after the war remain in government files 40 years later,” he says.
He teamed with political activist Ted Sampley of North Carolina to distribute the fliers to South Carolina media outlets this month. Sampley did not respond to requests for comment.
Sampley also is a longtime McCain opponent. In 2000, he gained attention when he called McCain a “Manchurian candidate” on his Web site and said that he was an agent of the Vietnamese. In 1993, Sampley was convicted of misdemeanor assault and sentenced to 180 days’ probation for attacking a McCain aide, according to a 2004 article in the New York Times.
McCain is not the first politician to draw the men’s ire. In 2004, they formed Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry.
Kiley has twice interrupted events featuring Vietnamese Prime Minister Phan Van Khai, forcing an American flag in his hand on one occasion and throwing red wine at him on another, according to a Secret Service agent who later arrested Kiley. He admits he threw the wine, but he was later acquitted in federal court of threatening Khai.
Kiley says he bases his most damning charges against McCain — that McCain gave information about the schedule of U.S. attacks in Vietnam in 1967, the year his plane was shot down and McCain was captured — on the word of Earl Hopper, a retired Army colonel.
In an interview, Hopper’s wife, Patty, said that Hopper wasn’t able to address the charges over the phone because of poor hearing. She said that Hopper has long been involved in the POW movement and that Earl Hopper’s son, Earl Jr., is missing in action in Vietnam.
She cited as evidence for Hopper’s charges a 1973 article by McCain that ran in U.S. News and World Report and what she said were “declassified U.S. military documents” she claimed to possess describing McCain’s collaboration. Patty Hopper said she was away from her Arizona home and could not fax those documents.
But the 1973 article does not back up the charges made in the flyer. It provides the same basic account as McCain’s book, corroborated by Timberg’s book, which was based on interviews with many POWs.
Timberg, Day and Swindle noted that McCain, the son of a Navy admiral, was offered an early release from the prison but refused so that he could adhere to the military’s code of conduct.
Timberg said he was perplexed by the allegations.
“Why do they hate him? There can be lots of issues you disagree with him about. But why try to destroy him?”
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Just kidding.
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Nice literary analysis. I said I'm not going to disparage somebody's SERVICE in the military UNLESS they are war profiteers or war criminals. If you've actually read anything else I've read in the past, you would know I'm not a war monger. And I voted for Obama. If somebody has run a dirty campaign I will call them out on it, but I will not then go HE WAS A TRAITOR just because I don't agree with him.
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But not for his service, no. Unless he was a war criminal, war profiteer or traitor. If he signed a confession under torture, I don't consider him a traitor. And for the record, I think the Vietnam and the Iraqi wars are illegal. But I'm not going to spit on the servicemen who come back home. And I'm not going to apologize for that.
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You are fair and reasoned. The mullet respects you!
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Would loosen you up a bit.
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McCain vs Obama: Who ever wins, we lose!
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I'm loose as a goose at Christmas.
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But I'm proud of you Snake.
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exit polls in Ohio, Florida, Indiana, or North Carolina. Remember, all throughout the primaries he underperformed in the exit polls in Red States by about 7 points. It doesn't look like so far that Obama is going to pick off any Red State except, maybe, Colorado, and that won't be enough...
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Nov 04, 2008 5:33:45 PM CST
Skyway Moaters doesn't think we should build anything anymore!
by snake foreskin
"Building anything bigger than my pecker should be outlawed because of all the Carbon Dioxide that gets released into the atmosphere from everyone haivng to get up in the morning and drive to work on a project! Build solar power instead! It works great in Seattle! And stop farting!" I paraphrase, of course.
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Nov 04, 2008 5:35:13 PM CST
Coughlins! Do me a favor - post at the same time as me!
by snake foreskin
A bunch of guys seem to think I'm you or you're me. I want to shut them the fuck up about it!
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Just a bit.
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you don't have quite that air of desperation.
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All you're going to do is get yourself pissed off when the results come out for Obama. I don't want you to end up like Strokin' Joe Biden!
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Don't want to blow your load without looking at what kind of hole you're in. I believe it was Socrates who said that.
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Nov 04, 2008 5:45:39 PM CST
I'm not predicting anything. I'm nervous McCain might lose
by coughlins laws
But this isn't going to be an Obama rout. It's possible he'll pick off Virginia. We'll see. But it's looking like a lock for McCain to win Ohio, Florida, and Indiana. We might not know until the polls on the West Coast close. I'm disappointed in Pennsylvania, though. Exit polls show Obama winning by 15%. If it were more like 6%, I'd be more confident. But Democrats are much more likely to talk to exit pollsters than Republicans, especially this year when McCain supporters are being intimidated and made to feel bad for not being for Obama. I believe we'll know by 8pm if Obama is gonna win or if the race will go all night.
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Nov 04, 2008 5:48:13 PM CST
Coughlin's...you have been predicting a McCain victory for
by terrymalloy
quite some time. But whatever. Who the fuck knows.
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matter what happens. If McCain wins, of course I'll be happy. If Obama wins, he'll have Bush approval numbers by the time the 2012 election comes along. Trust me. He'll go too far to the left with the backing of this Democrat Congress and there'll be a backlash to the Republicans (ask Bill Clinton). You guys'll see. I know some of you don't work yet, but you'll start to get pissed, too, when you see people who don't work getting paid by Obama...
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Nov 04, 2008 5:55:45 PM CST
I don't mean he'll have 29% approval, he'll have below
by coughlins laws
50% approval like Bush did in 2004. Good luck guys. Can't wait to give my money to someone who doesn't earn it!!!
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Tell me when the stock market bottoms out so I can invest.
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After the kickoff
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Quote: "Trust me."No. Fucking. Way.
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standing outside of polling stations trying to intimidate Republicans, blocking doors, brandishing nightsticks?
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I hate this shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Black Panthers are fucking badass.
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The Early Voting will make most of the Exit Polls pretty fucking unreliable it's going to be a while yet before the fog clears.
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Chick looked like she was in Jedi Valhalla with Obi-Wan, Yoda and Anikin at the end of "Return of the Jedi"
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I've seen this shit before for concerts and video displays. Jessica Yellin, fuck yeah beam her to my house.
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I claim the First Accurate prediction of the Election! ;-)
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one of my co-workers, a young black female, showed up at her polling station with her 3 year old daughter. she was told that she could not bring her daughter into the polling place with her and that they were not going to let her in with her daughter. The poll workers initially refused to get their supervisor and said it was "against the rules" for her to bring her daughter into the polling place and that they would not admit her or give her a ballot it wasn't until others in line, who were also there with their young children, began to cause a stir that the supervisor came out and after another 10 minutes of arguing, the supervisor could not produce anything to back their stance of not letting her in with her 3 year old daughter The supervisors argument was that they can't allow 2 people in a voting booth at the same time of course less than 2 miles away, my wife, who happens to be white, took our 2 year old with her and held him the whole time without one incident.
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He is so going on the naughty spot when he gets home from daycare....
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I helped my elderly parents vote today. All three of us in the same booth.
Of course we are all white and live in Anti-America so, you know.
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Nov 04, 2008 6:48:09 PM CST
"Can't wait to give my money to someone who doesn't earn it!!!"
by half-baked-goggle-box-do-gooder
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Nov 04, 2008 6:50:26 PM CST
"Can't wait to give my money to someone who doesn't earn it!!!"
by half-baked-goggle-box-do-gooder
Coughlin - we all feel the same way about YOU - just replace the word "Money" with the word "Condolences".
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on Comedy Central's site during the election. Funny shit :)
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McCain is screwed!!
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Hold on to your hats folks this could be HUGE.
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And he wins?
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Gamble does not payoff.
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I'm sure the Networks are being cautious too though. It ain't over yet.
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I don't know what they were so crazy about but they were definitely black! What's up with that?
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Nov 04, 2008 7:37:54 PM CST
YES, IF OBAMA WINS ALL KERRY STATES AND ADDS ONE SWING
by bringingsexyback
He takes it all - BUT we want a landslide.
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Maybe that'll put an end to dirty ads? Hopefully the Reps don't learn their lesson on this one.
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Fuck that shit. We built this city ... we built this city on be-ing assholes!
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Why hast thou forsaken Dole Lord!?!
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... I'd kept a collection of all Coughlin's claims of McCain coming back and/or being ahead. Yes it would have been a pathetic endeavor in many ways but if Obama indeed wins and especially if he blows McCain out, it would be satisfying to post them.
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This thing will be a landslide
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but I feel much better now, thank you for worrying.
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Delicious yet dangerous.
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HOD - Liddy Dole, busted out! Where is Coughlins?
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I hope Obama gets a landslide, but I'm not willing to call it yet.
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Vic Mackey or Barak Obama which to watch?
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election. So everyone calm down
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Read up, FaceleftandCough
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/tny/2008/11/mr-ayerss-neighborhood.html -
Fucking Liberal Media!
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Nov 04, 2008 8:20:49 PM CST
if you're real quiet, you can hear Rush popping oxycontin
by irrelevntelefant
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Where is Chrrriismsmmsmmm?
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Cuz when it is I'm ready to execute order 66 - the Revolution.
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....must not gloat....
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BID THY COMMAND!
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Does this mean I can have more than one wife? Socialist is just an elite term for swinger, right? and Muslim men can have harems?
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Sweet.
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MNG needs a new pair of shoes!
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I hope he takes North Carolina too. That would be sweet.
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Weep you capitalist non famous non violent pigs!
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I hope so ... and thanks for the heads up on that Manassas speech. I watched it on cspanjunkie and it FIRED ME UP.
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...I'm registered in Ohio.
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McKKKain wasted a lot of money there.
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This baby is done
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Good to see you, sir.
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For 'presdestining' the Doc to register in Ohio...your blessings are enormous!
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add 55 more from the great state of California.
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Nice to see you on the barricades
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Counted yet. The big daddy, Cali is looming. Florida still not called, but Obama leading big
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VA is McCain 50% / Obama 49% with 71% of the precincts reporting. It's getting closer and closer!Yes, the Manassas speech was a fine moment. It was great to have his final campaign stop in VA.
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Thanks New Mexicans!
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JJ4P just posted in the other TB
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We have taken control of the United States and will put an end to the corporate Capitalist regime!!! We will take from the stupid and redistribute to the educated!!!! Starting with Coughling ...
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FIRED UP!!!READY TO GO!!!
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Homer J. Simpson......Hero.
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gonna pack a bowl, and play a little guitar hero 3, once it's officially called. (and the wife puts the kid to sleep...)
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Anchorite's gone. *Tear*
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Holy. Shit. You have got to be kidding me.
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(Tue Nov. 4 @ 7:20 p.m. CST): Michael Barone is explaining on Fox News that they don't have any precinct data yet for Pennsylvania, and that there are large variations in something called the "WPE" and the exit polling. ABC, however, has joined NBC on this one, or may even have preceded it, based (apparently) on exit polling. I do not trust exit polling, period.
Barone knows his shit...However, there is such a sense of inevitablity to the whole thing.
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THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN!
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Yeah, I know. It must be fucking KILLING him not to be able to post in these TBs.
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Nov 04, 2008 8:43:35 PM CST
wow, look at all the rioting going on... those silly negroes...
by irrelevntelefant
oh... wait ... there is none. hmm. hmm.
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oh wait...ah fuck it...GOBAMA GOBAMA!!!
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Now we can invade Alaska!!!
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"Jesus wept"
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...coming soon.
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Nov 04, 2008 8:47:24 PM CST
the only riot will take place on thursday in Alaska...
by irrelevntelefant
as Sarah reverts back to naive soccer milfitah (- in the ass hard) and has her Chrysler Town & Country filled with all her kids wanting to hit the McDonalds drive thru for a Moose rib sandwich special...
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Life-sized.
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He gets banned as Jeff Albertson and decides to make another comeback under his original moniker. How timely!How are these banned fuckheads creating new usernames?! Wasn't there a moratorium placed upon new registrations or some shit?
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to disappoint us all, one day at a time! HERE'S TO CYNICISM!!! Wah wah...
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When did Albertson get banned?? I had the most fruitless funny debate with him oh so long ago.
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....What's this fucking shit I'm hearing about Las Vegas backrooms making odds on how long before Obama is assassinated?
Cocksuckers. If there was ONE US city that Al Queda coulda hit and I wouldn't shed a tear...
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I LOVE YOU ALBERTSON!!
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He is my Lord.
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The ban happened just a few months ago, I think.Fruitless = Appropriate adjective
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No matter how many times he asked for it.
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I'll miss him. He was the Joe the Plumber of the TBs.
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The heartbelt!!
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He's The One, after all.
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Triple it if you have to. Fucking loons out there.
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"I know Kung Fu"
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Nice ring to it.
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Are you, in fact, half baked?
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Was Senator Frankenhammer.
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I'm just gonna quote some Coughlins here cause all the McCainiacs are missing suddenly."McCain is back on top in Florida, is tied in Pennsylvania, ahead in Ohio, and surging in Virginia. It's all about momentum and McCain has it where it matters. Obama's in for a LONG night tomorrow!!! I can't wait to rub in your faces, either...""Not looking good for Obama. He's not ahead in the exit polls in Ohio, Florida, Indiana, or North Carolina. Remember, all throughout the primaries he underperformed in the exit polls in Red States by about 7 points. It doesn't look like so far that Obama is going to pick off any Red State except, maybe, Colorado, and that won't be enough...""Are you telling me that you don't even have a hint of doubt? You realize all of these polls with Obama ahead assume that the Dem edge over Repbulicans are about 40% Dem to 30% Rep, right? They are assuming that every single new Democrat will show up to vote. Well, I've got news for you. The most unreliable voting bloc every single cycle is young people. If the youth vote doesn't come out like they think it will, Obama can't win. He is tied or is losing in very other age group. So, get cocky if you want. But just remember, if the same Rep to Dem split that happenned in 2004 happens this year, Dems and Reps about even, McCain wins by 3 or 4 points. It's all about turn-out which the Republicans have been great at the last decade and that the Democrats just haven't been doing...""Most of the polls, even the crazy ones with Obama up by 5 to 10, have McCain leading in Florida, now. Sorry, but there's no way that Obama wins Florida. FYI, McCain's rally was at 9am and unlike most Democrats, Republicans have jobs..."That's good for now.
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Bwaaaa-hahahahaha!!!
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What was I gonna say?
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And a li'l bit of Mary Jane.
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I do not imbibe. If only because I'm one of those idiots that never does anything halfway.
I do occasionally take a draft of the finely-distilled spirit, but the 4-20 was never my thing...
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But...a great man.
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Nov 04, 2008 9:24:50 PM CST
Who is going to be the first state to legalize marijuana?
by terrymalloy
GET ON WITH IT ALREADY!
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Never thought I'd say that until tonight.
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... with getting you banned Snake? The fact that you even ask that question shows you up for the the clueless racist piece of shit your posts to this forum clearly indicate you to be. Bigots never have an honest enough self view for them to realize when they are spewing vile racist hate speech. Their, and your reaction, by way of example of that lower than whale shit demographic is ALWAYS: "What did I say? That wasn't "racist" I was JOKING, or some other equally disingenuous self serving delusional bullshit. And nope. I don't use "alternate handles", and never will. I have used 1, and only one, posting handle since 2001 on these boards. I am not afraid to stand up to a low life piece of shit like you and will take my banning like a man if it comes to that, and not register another handle. It's called integrity, and belief in principals. One of which is that mentally deficient racist jerk-offs like you need to be smacked down without mercy. You are not fit to post on ANY public forum except those that cater to delusional race baiting homophobic, misogynistic fascist motherfuckers such as yourself.
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and soiling himself repeatedly with every new state Obama is winning
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Nov 04, 2008 9:34:23 PM CST
coughlin is masturbating angrily to the Palins Pagent video
by irrelevntelefant
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Let's just koombayah and celebrate world peace. Our Savior is here. PASS THE PEACE PIPE.
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also the new yorker must have taken down that ayers post cause i couldn't find it.
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They got CGI witchcraft!!!!!
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http://tinyurl.com/59u8on
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... Or at least that's what Chris Tucker says" 'Nuff said. RACIST! BAN HIM NOW!
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Since when were brains a requirement to enjoy country music? Get with the program, son...
cchhrrriissmmm's on the loose in Harry's election TB, by the way.
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Did someone slip acid in my Starbucks?!?!
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...Will.I.Am to say: "Wipe them out.... ALL OF THEM."
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He's not coming out 'til 2016.
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... we shall overcome, we shall overcome some... strike that: TODAY!" How're you digging the election returns Coughdrop? Snake?
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Nov 04, 2008 9:58:12 PM CST
Harry should profit from his Obama support.
by half-baked-goggle-box-do-gooder
Get a nice site tech upgrade with a rotating live webcam feed, the better to watch Coughlin's eat his Desert Eagle knockoff when Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Watch out Bin Laden. Someone who has their shit together is coming for you real soon.
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Just yes.
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Where are you Dr. Who, Coughins, Snake Foreskin/Anchoracist. Show yourselves.
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CELEBRATE PEOPLE! DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD!
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but he's not dead because he's too stupid to know he was supposed to use a gun to do that...
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i'm going to riot.
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We are all Americans, and this has been a truly historic night.
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and thank George W. Bush and Dick Cheany for this historical moment. If not for the ineptitude and stupidity of these corrupt gentlemen, I don't think it would have been possible for a black man named Barack Obama to have become the leader of the free world. Now I say to these two people....FUCK OFF BACK TO WHERE YA CAME FROM NEVER TO BE HEARD AGAIN! Thank you.
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... My take, and I don't care, or necessarily expect, [if] anyone else here to agree(s) with me, is that the more "sedate" posters here, tolerate your vitriolic hyperbolic rants because your heart seems to be in the right place, and that you actually show contrition, admit when you're wrong, and occasionally apologize for "going over the top". As much I as dislike McCain and believe that the perception of him being an "honorable man", is based upon widely accepted lies and fraud, it is wrong to joke about the death of ANY human being. Do you really want to cross over into "Snake Foreskin" territory?
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I'm not predicting anything. I'm nervous McCain might lose
by Coughlins Laws Nov 4th, 2008
05:45:39 PM
But this isn't going to be an Obama rout. It's possible he'll pick off Virginia. We'll see. But it's looking like a lock for McCain to win Ohio, Florida, and Indiana. We might not know until the polls on the West Coast close. I'm disappointed in Pennsylvania, though. Exit polls show Obama winning by 15%. If it were more like 6%, I'd be more confident. But Democrats are much more likely to talk to exit pollsters than Republicans, especially this year when McCain supporters are being intimidated and made to feel bad for not being for Obama. I believe we'll know by 8pm if Obama is gonna win or if the race will go all night. -
FUCK YOU. EAT SHIT. GOBBLE MY KNOB. EAT A BAG OF DICKS.And oh yeah motherfucker, see your fuckin' losing ass in 2012, assfuck!!! Fuck you, fuck fuck!
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Way to go Couhgdrop. Behaving just like we all predicted you would. Get of the computer and go get a life man!
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And Inactionman, you forgot to include Chrriisssmm. Sorry "Brotha" you got served!
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PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!!! FUCK YEAH!!!
VAGINAL ORGASM FOREVER!!!FUCK YEAH!!!!
I need a drink...
Okay, tomorrow the REAL hate begins - the Demented Right will be blaming Obama for sunspots by Saturday, as well as everything else that they can think of (including their own stupidity), and they won't stop until they fucking die.
Gird Yer Loins, me Buckos - the REAL work is about to begin... -
(Not that they weren't already). Those lying mother motherfuckers are SCARED TO DEATH.
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FUCK YEAH
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There are riots all over! My cats are rioting at their food dish! Champagne just rioted into my belly! the bar on my block is rioting on cowbells! Some random dude just smiled a riot at me when I walked down the street! It's DANGEROUS out here!
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You are one clueless motherfucker. Fox had some of the best, most eloquent analysis after Obama was declared the winner. A couple of their guests expressed concern, but the Fox regulars were downright effusive in their expression of hope for the Obama presidency. Hell, Karl Rove said to Chris Wallace, "This is a moment every American should celebrate." Why don't you quit saying what you WANT to be true, and pay attention to what's really going on around you?
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Fox Noise needs to commit sepuku (Hari-kiri). How how the hell do you make this unrepentant terrorist a contributor?
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You just embodied everything Obama spoke against tonight.
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there are some ignorant mother fuckers out there...
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Nov 05, 2008 12:15:55 AM CST
actually, Fox has some of the hottest chick reporters
by irrelevntelefant
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I infer from your last post, that you "hear what you want to hear and disregard the rest". I just watched ol' Beelzebub on Faux News and he's STILL trying to defend neo-con talking points. "Don't write the republican party off! The fact that the 'Marriage is between a man and a woman' ballot proposal looks to pass in Florida PROVES, that that republicans are still a force to be reckoned with". The man is a fucking demon spawn lying sack of shit, and so is Fox "News". Megyn "I have a law degree from an online diplomacy mill", Kelly looked like she was going to cry. REAP IT MOTHERFUCKERS! Gotta run, a re-run of "Star Trek Voyager" is on...
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That "FUCK YOU KARL ROVE" post is what's called "sarcasm". Tell me you think he's a decent man.
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But he was far more gracious tonight than you. And that should say something.
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You make my point for me. Thank you.
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A lying sack of shit NEEDS to CALLED a lying sack of shit. His "graciousness" as you so myopically choose to refer to it, was disingenuous at best.
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"REAP IT MOTHERFUCKERS!" Was directed solely at Fox "News".
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I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but I can’t help but laugh at the predications of doom and gloom concerning Obama’s presidency. We have just gone through eight years of the most incompetent president in recent memory…or perhaps even history. After 8 years of the deterioration of civil liberties; profligate spending; the misleading of the American people into invading a Iraq; the bungling of the occupation afterwards; the loss of goodwill from the rest of the world; the incompetence and belated dismissals of Donald Rumsfeld, Michael Brown and Alberto Gonzales, the nomination of Harriet Miers; the lax response to Hurricane Katrina; the doubling of US debt to $10 trillion; the collapse of the economy; setbacks in Afghanistan; and, finally, the fact we have yet to get Bin Laden. After all of this, perhaps the Republicans should not yet point fingers.
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... about Senator McCain's record and life history, he showed some real class in his concession tonight. Bravo Senator McCain, best wishes to you and yours.
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Have listen to what he's saying on Faux New now. Spinning like a Machiavellian top. Utterly vile human being.
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Yes. Deadly America has a terrible image. For a country that does nothing but give, and is generally the country the rest of the world should aspire to be, America has truly, truly awful image. Whether it's from envy, or whatever, America is generally not given the gratitude and respect that it deserves. And I say that as an English Person-
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Actually zacdilone is right about Fox re: Obama's speech. Right after it, that blowhard Brit Hume was downright poetic. So ... maybe Obama's healing powers work via the airwaves?
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Acceptance speech was beautiful. The republicans where I work were all talking in hushed voices this morning as the tv in the cafeteria blared Faux News as usual. I'm amazed that they're showing the celebrations and seem to have lowered their douchebaggery levels on this morning. Or maybe I just wasn't watching close enough.I heard that McCain had a decent and respectful concession speech too.
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