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How Do Critics Find Raimi’s LEGEND OF THE SEEKER??

Published at:  Nov 01, 2008 12:59:48 AM CDT

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I am – Hercules!!

A new fantasy series from producer Sam Raimi (“Hercules,” “Xena”) and writer-producer Kenneth Biller (“The X-Files,” “Star Trek: Voyager,” “Smallville”), “Legend of the Seeker” is a new hourlong fantasy series based on the Terry Goodkind novel “Wizard’s First Rule.”

It’s about a woodsman-turned-magical-leader who joins a mysterious woman to stop a bloodthirsty tyrant. Bruce Spence, who played the pilot in the “Mad Max” movies, plays a wizard named Zedd.

The critics seem less than thrilled:

Newsday says:

… Raimi and Tapert have sleepwalked through the pilot. Viewers can only hope they awaken during the next 20 or so episodes. …


The Boston Herald says:

… the familiar rolling hills of New Zealand are back. And little else of interest. … Alas, you’ll be better entertained staring at a postcard.


The Los Angeles Times says:

… the series' two-hour opening is a bit of a goulash of "Star Wars," the Arthurian legends, "Superman" and the Bible. … It is, basically, good-looking fun, and if I say that much of this might have been written by a 12-year-old, you must understand that I mean that as a good thing. …


The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:

… may thrill some "LOTR" fans, but the content of the pilot is nothing original. Parents who think this fantasy series may be fine family fare should be warned: Some of the fight scenes are more violent than expected -- one match ends in a beheading.…


The Fresno Bee says:

… could not have been more dull if the creators had tried. The acting is amateurish. The action is sluggish. The story moves slower than a snail on a glacier. And it is just so bad there is really nothing funny about it. …


Variety says:

… There's nothing howlingly bad here (except perhaps for a few of the supporting performances), but nothing particularly distinctive, either. Rather, "Legend of the Seeker" feels like a hodgepodge of better sci-fi/fantasy fare, including slow-motion action sequences that looked way-cool in "300" and this time around merely feel like a cheap way of ensuring nobody gets clipped by an errant sword. …


The Hollywood Reporter says:

… Big on style but more challenged in terms of substance, "Seeker" demonstrates much production savvy but at the same time too little provocative/evocative interaction aside from the ultra-violent kind.


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    Readers Talkback

  • Nov 01, 2008 1:12:16 AM CDT

    NO wheel of time?

    by tthenomad

    yeah i know it would be years for the first book

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  • Nov 01, 2008 1:39:10 AM CDT

    Bruce Spence is tha bomb

    by sirflibble

    Always enjoyed all the random crap he's turned up in.. especially Hercules Returns.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 2:03:19 AM CDT

    tried it once

    by natron009

    I did try to read this series and it really did not do much for me...

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  • Nov 01, 2008 5:05:44 AM CDT

    Good Series but

    by jaybob

    not the best. Books 1 2 and 6 stand out for me. 6 especially because it reminds me of what Donaldson does to Thomas Covenant. So, I'll watch and hope to be entertained, meanwhile hoping for good adaptions of Jordan's Wheel and Zelazny's Amber. Both are massive series and would be thrilled with a great 2.5 - 3 hour film that covered the beginning of each series that then said, "this is all! go read the Great Hunt/Guns of Avalon! there'll be no more films! it's too big!"

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  • Nov 01, 2008 5:07:49 AM CDT

    Just saw

    by jaybob

    the Prince of Darkness animation at the top. Cool.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 5:08:19 AM CDT

    AND Midnight Meat Train

    by jaybob

  • Nov 01, 2008 5:09:04 AM CDT

    Oops...

    by jaybob

    on Comcast On Demand. Wow. Great stuff. How's that for indepth?

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  • Nov 01, 2008 5:10:34 AM CDT

    Reminds me, somehow...

    by jaybob

    did you see the fan film "Rats" for Sin City? Miller liked it....

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  • Nov 01, 2008 5:50:11 AM CDT

    Not A Surprise. The Trailers Didn't Look Great

    by iammrmonkey!

    I've never read the books but the trailers looked pretty bad. At least it was filmed in NZ and not Canada though I suppose. And at least it's not the BBC's Merlin which I think is awful.P.S Jaybob - Midnight Meat Train is awesome. How it got buried I'll never know.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 8:25:41 AM CDT

    One of the worst books I have ever read.

    by charlie_allnut

    So this is no surprise.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 8:32:01 AM CDT

    As long as they...

    by kurgan

    ...include the sadomasochistic female bodyguards clad in skintight red leather, I'll be fine. And yes, the books have those. No, you shouldn't rush to read them.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 8:48:50 AM CDT

    Favorite Book Series

    by dotren

    This is by far my favorite book series. I felt that it took some of the best ingredients in the average fantasy and spun them in completely different ways. I've heard they've changed up a lot of things from the book though and made it back into the more "generic" fantasy. Some of the things they supposedly have taken out were HUGE pieces of the later novels. I'll give the show a chance and view it as it is: a different story for a different media.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 9:26:56 AM CDT

    Hopefully they stretch out the first book all season long.

    by stereotypical evil archer

    That first book was awesome adolescent reading back in the day.There was violence,sexual tension, sadomasochism, creepy pedophile-like scenes, and a big FUCKING DRAGON.A lot of the magic was different than the crappy Dungeons & Dragons crap.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 9:27:24 AM CDT

    Dominatrixes in red leather called Mord-Sith

    by stereotypical evil archer

    Too hot for T.V.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 9:27:47 AM CDT

    Anthropomancy!

    by stereotypical evil archer

    Human sacrifice for magical divination. I wonder if they will show this stuff. After all that helped make Darken Rahl more dark.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 9:28:11 AM CDT

    A FUCKING RED DRAGON

    by stereotypical evil archer

    Is in the book and on the cover art. How can they make that work on television?

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  • Nov 01, 2008 9:39:49 AM CDT

    Easy

    by alientoast

    Raimi will just dust off one of those Video-Toaster created monsters from the ol' Hercules+Xena shows, tint it red, and voila!!!! Dragons!

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  • Nov 01, 2008 9:49:52 AM CDT

    From the makers of Xena. . .

    by cymbol

    Didn't really inspire me to think they would pull these books off. Also, the 5pm timeslot has me worried the violence/torture/rape/ and sado-masichism will be largely underplayed taking away any tension from the series. Unfortunately, the book starts out slow and doesn't truly pick up till the middle for me. Not sure if they can wait for viewers to start getting invested till half-way through the season. My wife and I are fans of the book - so we'll watch it. I hope they find their pace later if the pilot doesn't capture it.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 9:55:53 AM CDT

    HAHAHAHA

    by fat lenny

    Let's see... the books were amateurish, generic, poorly written tripe. Big surprise that the show is the same. There are SO MANY other series more worthy of a good television treatment. I'll never finish reading that crap and I'll never watch this load of shit on television. What will I do? Patiently await HBO's treatment of the vastly superior George RR Martin books.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 10:16:14 AM CDT

    This isn't another Harry Potter movie is it?

    by grammaton cleric binks

  • Nov 01, 2008 10:49:59 AM CDT

    George R.R. Martin, maybe...

    by biggusdickus

    ...for this sort of sprawling fantasy thing, but Terry Goodkind?Flimsy and superficial.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 11:31:57 AM CDT

    Is the person from Variety an idiot?

    by raw_bean

    This really made me laugh: "...slow-motion action sequences that looked way-cool in "300" and this time around merely feel like a cheap way of ensuring nobody gets clipped by an errant sword..."Does this person not realise that slow motion sequences are actually acted at full speed; do they in fact think that slow motion is done by actors moving reaaallllyyyy ssslllllooooowwwwllllyyyyy and tttttaaaaaalllllkkkkkkiiiinnnngggg lllliiiikkkkkeeeee ttthhhhiiiiissssss.....

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  • Nov 01, 2008 11:49:23 AM CDT

    I miss Xena...

    by mockingbird girl

    ... even if the first season was the only really good one.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 11:57:35 AM CDT

    Half-speed?

    by mal carne

    raw_bean, you've never done stage combat, have you? Most of the time you rehearse and work stage combat at half speed to be safe...

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  • Nov 01, 2008 12:47:57 PM CDT

    raw_bean is right...

    by telf

    Bad Meat is wrong.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 12:51:07 PM CDT

    I'm looking forward to it...

    by allykatd

    The first book WFR was fabulous. Loved the torture porn with the Mord-Sith. The next three books were very good too, but after that they weren't so great. I think the series looks great. I downloaded and watched the first 30 minutes from iTunes and I loved it.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 1:20:49 PM CDT

    Hopefully the critics are wrong.

    by dreamwriter

    Did they watch the first two hours or just the first hour?

    Anyways, I really liked the first three books, and I thought the series had potential from seeing the previews. Not sure about the major change from the book, the reason Kahalan is escaping the Midlands, (they showed that in like the first 10 minutes on last week's preview), but I'm willing to give it a shot.

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  • Stone of Tears (book 2) gets better on each reading imo and Faith of the Fallen (book 6) is one of the best of the series. Of the last three: Chainfire was ok, Phantom was a lot better, and Confessor was really really good.. great way to finish the series.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 3:29:39 PM CDT

    More Crap

    by leftfoot

    Hercules and Xena were unwatchable shit. This will be more of the same New Zealand factory TV product crap. That country can make some amazing films and TV. This will not be the good stuff.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 3:56:28 PM CDT

    Bridget Regan is hot

    by umaga

    Here's proof:

    http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/moviesandtv/65535/Bridget-Regan-Interview.html

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  • Nov 01, 2008 6:16:53 PM CDT

    Gonna pass

    by melvin_pelvis

    don't watch another *tweens Save The World* story

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  • Nov 01, 2008 6:17:36 PM CDT

    oops

    by melvin_pelvis

    don't wanna watch...

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  • Nov 01, 2008 6:59:09 PM CDT

    Disappointed

    by merpio

    I have read and loved the whole series.I agree that the Song of Fire and Ice is better and cannot wait for the HBO series. Given all that I still had high hopes for this series. Well after watching the first 2 hours I have decided never to watch it again and tell all the other fans I meet not to watch it. They changed way too much from the books and it just doesn't work. This makes me very sad. I hope the adaptations of WoT and Song of Fire and Ice are better.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 8:57:10 PM CDT

    What I've seen...it's a colossal fumbling thud...

    by shub-wankalot

    It has no spark, no grab, no heart. It's just a lifeless carcass being kicked around to simulate fun and excitement. More miss than hit. Next...

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  • Nov 01, 2008 9:07:14 PM CDT

    "Tweens save the world

    by dreamwriter

  • Nov 01, 2008 9:09:50 PM CDT

    its not that bad...

    by crazybubba

    just finished the first hour. Its not great, but okay for a tv show. I've seen worse. the dialogue is corny, the characters and the plot are cliche and predictable, but the action and special effects are okay. The sword of truth--o brother, but i'll keep watching it for now.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 9:12:53 PM CDT

    "Tweens save the world"??

    by dreamwriter

    (stupid enter key). Um, characters aren't 'tweens', I forget their age but they are at least 18. Anyways, I just saw the first hour - here they are showing the main show on Sundays and repeating the previous one on Saturdays, so they only showed the first hour today. Yeah, some changes, but it's obvious they are trying to get the story moving as quickly as possible. The whole first hour seemed to be about giving as much info to the viewers as possible while still trying to make it all seem urgent. I'd bet the second hour is the same way. So you shouldn't really decide on the show until next week, where the show truly starts.

    I am happy to finally see a fantasy series on TV, particularly one telling a continuous story, and not just totally episodic like Xena and Hercules.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 10:10:14 PM CDT

    It's ok so far, not great, but watchable

    by br1947

    Glad to see a fantasy show on tv that at least attempts to take the story seriously, isn't over the top retarded like Xena or Hercules. I'll give it a shot.

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  • Nov 01, 2008 10:15:57 PM CDT

    Bruce Spence

    by gotilk

    Great to see him working. He's a favorite.

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  • Nov 02, 2008 12:34:51 AM CDT

    The witch chick is pretty hot!!

    by ka dargo

    Love the dark hair blue eyes combo!! And the fantasy/sci-fi elements are cool!!

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  • Nov 02, 2008 1:31:56 AM CDT

    ok...

    by dwarves

    I enjoyed the books. The first 2 hours were the first 2 books minus a ton of information. Based on the editing they did I have no clue how they're going to carry on with the story. Books were far better as usual. the TV show wasn't bad...but it needs to pickup the pace.

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  • Nov 02, 2008 2:34:17 AM CST

    Meh

    by cineninja

    Thats all this gets. I watched it and was bored to tears.

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  • Nov 02, 2008 4:18:07 AM CST

    So who's been watching Merlin?

    by amy chasing

    It's not brilliant, but it's got some lovely costumes, sets and music. That and it's a decent kids escapist fantasy show. Would be great if they get a bit more serious, but seems the only fantasy show to do that lately is Lord Of The Rings and everyone else seems to want to keep their fantasy for kids.

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  • I want the handful of days back from when I tried to read the first Goodkind book. A Fire and Ice series on HBO would be a thing of beauty.

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  • Nov 02, 2008 6:25:56 AM CST

    Help me out hear, fellas

    by ptsdpete

    I heard one time that this ' Sword of Truth ' thing was rip-off of Robert Jordan's ' Wheel of Time '. Don't remember.

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  • Nov 02, 2008 9:26:41 AM CST

    PTSDPete, No,it's not a rip-off, vastly different stories.

    by stereotypical evil archer

  • Nov 02, 2008 9:27:24 AM CST

    Legend of the Seeker sucked. That was bad acting.

    by stereotypical evil archer

  • Nov 02, 2008 9:35:00 AM CST

    a BEHEADING?

    by gungan slayer

    oh god, no, please no

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  • Nov 02, 2008 2:42:14 PM CST

    no subject

    by chezking

    "you’ll be better entertained staring at a postcard." AHAHAHAHA!! That's hilarious.

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  • Nov 02, 2008 4:25:18 PM CST

    "Conan the Libertarian"

    by ebonic_plague

    http://tinyurl.com/5wkl9u

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  • Nov 02, 2008 5:40:42 PM CST

    George R R Martin...

    by bootskin

    ...pisses all over this shitty, shitty series. The "Mord Sith" can suck my cock.

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  • Nov 02, 2008 8:30:12 PM CST

    I want The Archer, Fugitive From The Empire

    by manos

    Loved that Heartbow

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  • Nov 02, 2008 9:09:27 PM CST

    Well I'm glad I watched the first two hours

    by silverhour

    now I know there's nothing worth staying home for on Saturdays. I have enjoyed the books, and was really excited to hear about the visual adaptation, but then the more I started to see/hear/read about it, the less I wanted to. First off the cast is shit, then most of the major plot points are dumped in favour of quick explinations and fast swordwork, and then it sets up for week-to-week adventures, instead of doing a broad story arc. This would have worked so much better as a 6 hour miniseries.

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  • Nov 02, 2008 10:55:08 PM CST

    ^Agreed..kinda

    by pornking

    I don't think the cast is shit, but they certainly ejected almost all of the main plot points and subtlety of the books. The SFX are also pure crap as well.

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  • Nov 03, 2008 10:16:04 AM CST

    A George R. R. Martin TV series would be X-Rated...

    by leafar the lost

    ...if it followed the books exactly. It have to have graphic amounts of hardcore sex and violence. It would have to be on HBO or Showtime. A basic cable TV show would have to be so cleaned up that it would suck, just like this "Legend of the Seeker" shit.

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  • Nov 03, 2008 12:29:32 PM CST

    Leafar the Lost

    by kurgan

    HBO has already used its option on ASOIAF. It remains to be seen if they actually go on with the series, but yeah, if it's going to air, it's going to be on HBO.

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  • Nov 03, 2008 12:36:00 PM CST

    THE WAR OF POWERS!!!

    by spud mcspud

    If you're going to make an adolescent sexually-charged fantasy epic for TV, you need to make THE WAR OF POWERS and get your writers onto WAR OF POWERS II: ISTU AWAKENED. Fantastic stuff, and which can probably only have been made in the last few years on a TV budget - floating sky cities, war eagles, ghosts ("Shades" in this) walking around with regular people...

    These two books are awesome. Make them instead of this crap, please.

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  • Nov 03, 2008 6:44:31 PM CST

    Yo Bootskin

    by dwarves

    I agree...George R R Martin is the shit and his series is soooooo much better. But he will never finish it before he dies of a heart attack.

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  • Nov 03, 2008 11:34:43 PM CST

    spud mcspud...

    by biggusdickus

    I think I remember those books! Aliens with two cocks, wasn't it?

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  • Poor him. Ever since Spider-Man Sam Raimi has been overshadowing his partner. Even has taken credit for his wife in a few articles I've read.

    "... even if the first season was the only really good one."

    Actually, its gets far better after the first season up until season five.

    "I am happy to finally see a fantasy series on TV, particularly one telling a continuous story, and not just totally episodic like Xena and Hercules."

    I can't speak for Hercules, but Xena did have a continuous storyline, especially in season three and four.

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