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BABYLON 5’s Straczynski To Write FORBIDDEN PLANET Remake!!
I am – Hercules!!
J. Michael Straczynski, who created “Babylon 5” and “Jeremiah” before he scripted Clint Eastwood’s new period drama “The Changling,” has been hired to script a remake of “Forbidden Planet” for Joel Silver and Warner Bros.
The Hollywood Reporter describes the original, based on Shakespeare’s “The Tempest”:
Released in 1956, "Planet" told the tale of an expedition sent from Earth to check on a colony of scientists on a far-off planet. They find two members, a man who has found alien technology that doubled his intellect, Dr. Morbius, and his daughter, both of whom have managed to survive an unseen monster roaming the planet.
Read all of the Reporter’s story on the matter here.
I am – Hercules!!
J. Michael Straczynski, who created “Babylon 5” and “Jeremiah” before he scripted Clint Eastwood’s new period drama “The Changling,” has been hired to script a remake of “Forbidden Planet” for Joel Silver and Warner Bros.
The Hollywood Reporter describes the original, based on Shakespeare’s “The Tempest”:
Released in 1956, "Planet" told the tale of an expedition sent from Earth to check on a colony of scientists on a far-off planet. They find two members, a man who has found alien technology that doubled his intellect, Dr. Morbius, and his daughter, both of whom have managed to survive an unseen monster roaming the planet.
Read all of the Reporter’s story on the matter here.
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Not a JMS fan at all really. Though I should probably get around to finally watching the original Forbiden Planet movie.
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... cause I've never seen it.
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Why are they remaking all of these movies that I love so much in their original form. Yes, they are extremely dated and could be made modern with new special effects but come on... There are NEW scripts with NEW stories. I never thought I'd be one of the NEW story guys... but COME ON! Why not do what we used to do? Remaster the film clean it up and put the original back out in theatres. Make it 3D or something... I don't know but as much as I love Straczynski I don't want a remake of one of my favorite sci-fi classics ever. I swear we'll hear that they've hired the Nolan to remake Vertigo, Eastwood to remake The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallence or Paul Thomas Anderson to redo Citizen Kane. All great at their work and masters of their craft... but we don't have to keep remaking classics.
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For God's sake, will you just leave it alone?!?! Are there no original ideas left in Hollywood? How long until we get a Blade Runner remake, or The Matrix, for Fuck's sake
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Interesting, this. JMS paid homage to the design of Forbidden Planet with the design of Epsilon 3 in Babylon 5's first season.
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seriously...why cant they leave classic scifi alone?
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Jesus Christ! Can't you people see what's going on? Hollywood is bankrupt. Comics are bankrupt. Novels are bankrupt. Ideas are bankrupt.
Was it OK to remake "The Day the Earth Stood Still"? Was it OK to remake "War of the Worlds"? "The Body Snatchers"? How about "Star Trek" for fucks sake -- with a recast Kirk, Spock and McCoy? Are you kids out of your fucking minds? Need I go on?
Listen, the "dream factory" is utterly bereft of ideas. They are scrambling for movie projects. These people are out to sea.
But we movie lovers deserve better than this. We do. Enough of this reguritation. I don't care what name is attached to this. Adaptations are fine. "Lost Planet" is a classic partly because it was based on "Shakespeare." I get that. But why rehash it again?
Enough is enough. Stop paying for these movies people. Stop seeing these remakes. It's the only way Hollywood will respond. And stop hyping these fucking retread projects, AICN. Enough.
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I don't think I can even be bothered being annoyed by this. I have remake fatigue. At the very least, focusing on forgettable remakes will prevent a few more I, Robot level travesties from being made.
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If you're a true movie fan, put this one on your NetFlix now. It's an amazing movie. The special effects are really cool. There is just so much to like about it. Yes, it was 1956, but that shouldn't matter. This film stands alone. It's one of the great ones folks.
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Terrible. Terrible. Terrible. Name one good thing he's written.
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So I guess if The Day the Earth Stood Still remake makes a nice amount of dough, then we'll be seeing EVEN MORE of these classic sci-fi movies being remade. Dammit. The original Forbidden Planet rules. As usual, the only good I can find in this news is the hope that a remake will draw people to the kick-ass original. But also as usual, that's probably just wishful thinking. So this idea sucks.
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Robbie needs to look exactly the same. He is too much of an icon to be reimagined.
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Wow, all these remakes stink of desperation. Why did they bother to settle the writers strike if they are just going to do remakes?
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cracking jokes and being all funny, or will he be dramatic again, as he was in the orignal. I enjoyed this film a whole heck of a lot. Very cheesy with that awesome 50's charm and wholesomeness. I am not going to get up in arms about "REMAKE" because, obviously, what's the point. They are going to keep on coming. Nothin we can do.
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That's one good think JMS has written. As for this, fuck it. Fuck it hard until it bleeds.
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I've started ignoring all these movies now. This massive run of 're-imagining' old and wonderful movies has long grown stale and tired.
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Seriously, this is getting tiresome. OK, we get it Hollyweird, you like to revisit old classics. Perhaps its time you started making new ones.
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... at least they've got someone good to do it. It should be fun to see what JMS does with it. I suspect the homages to FP in B5 show he has a love for the original and will treat it with respect. Now all we need is to ensure it doesn't end up with some talentless hack like Bay who will replace all the dialogue and plot with explosions.
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besides, who would play Ann Margaret's part?
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They're all talentless hacks. Have you seen the latest Indiana Jones movie? Spielberg couldn't even remake the movie he made in the first place! How about Transformers? Utter dreck. Nice cooze, a few good robot shots, but that's it. A new Forbidden Planet is a disaster waiting to happen. The new Star Trek will fare the same. Not financially, no. Young, dumb fucks will put their fat asses into the seats for this refried shit. I'm talking artistically. Idea-wise. This is a dire time for films fellas. Oh, Terminator 4 coming soon. Sigh.
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I don't want to see remakes of these classic films.
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Oct 31, 2008 4:49:36 AM CDT
Will he explore the sinister incest implications from the origin
by v'shael
Cause that was by FAR the most deeply disturbing bit of the original movie.
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wont you ever shut the fuck up about remakes.. waaaahhhh there raping my childhood... waaaaaahhhh cant they come up with original ideas.. grow the fuck up and realize you live in a world were they need to do this in order to make money so they can pump it into risky new stuff..
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And Leslie Nielson to make a cameo saing "Nice Beaver" to Ms Morbius. Also JMS to make a cameo at the end in a janitors outfit to turn off Robby. I'm the rewrite king of the world!
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Because it had all elements of a modern blockbuster and even the mighty Star Trek franchise! Trek was inspired by this movie. This one can't work in the same way. It's all been done to death. Leave it alone
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you mean like tdk, the new star trek, the umpteenth remake of invasion of the body snatchers, or another indy? hollywood doesnt take chances...its all about the green...there are tons of unmade scifi they havent even gotten to yet...this is just lazy bs, and im rather shocked that jms needs the money that badly
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now suck my dick....bitch
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to make, was original but flawed and bombed like fuck losing the studio money, they make a ton of these type of movies every year and in order to ge the money to do this they need to look at what is a safe bet to bring in cash.. lets say.. a remake! or the umpteenth fecking saw etc etc, i just dont get the whole dont remake old movies mentality or this us vs hollywood shit, they're a fucking business out to make money and who doesnt want to see classic movies remade?? you'll always have the fucking original and if your so fucked in the head that a remake will ruin it for you, then frankly you need fucking committed, movies are about 2hrs of entertainment not something to wrap your whole life round like some of the fuckwits on this site
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looking forward to this
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Yes, Hollywood is a business and doing Saw film after Saw film does not bug me. But if you're a film lover, shit like this should bug you. Is it going to hurt the originals? Not at all. Frankly, I pay most of these re-hashings no mind. I won't pay to see stuff like Quarantine or The Day the Earth Stood Still or this Forbidden Planet remakes. I have never seen the original films but I will go back and watch them and never watch this. The movie industry may be a business but it is also an artform. it's time we start treated it like one. And you say there's original stuff flooding the cinemas. You are fucking kidding me right? All these adaptations and sequels and remakes. That's what I see on a week to week basis. It's funny that the example you gave (Riddick) is several years old. For millions of people film is about more than two hours of entertainment. To you, this is a business. To many, this is a huge part of their life. Say what you will about people who love film. The fact is, you just don't get it.
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It's about the principle of a remake. If Hollywood keeps up with this, they're going to run out of shit of shit to remake. This trend need to go away. Time and effort and money needs to be spent on originality. This remake nonsense is a temporary solution to bring in the money. You need to think about the future of film if this continues.
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I'm tired of this asswhipe. Robby the Robot needs to fucking kick this guy's ass. It was only a matter of time before they got around this remake. Damn. "Forbidden Planet" kicks ass. We don't need a fucking remake, especially one from Joel Silver.
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GETS IT. bullseye, man.
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Yeah, that's pretty disturbing... plus the fact that every member of the crew wanted to bang the living shit out of Altaira. Incest and gang rape... bring it on! The kid's will love it!
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Ann Francis, not Margret. (If you need an Ann Margret fix, may I suggest BYE BYE BIRDIE... Yummy!)
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Incest? What incest? I've seen the movie a dozen times and there was never any hint of incest unless it was Robbie and the toaster.
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Did anyone ever read about the alternate ending shot that showed Altera disappering when the planet blew up because she was actually just a projection of the machine kept "alive" by her father?
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Really looking forward to this. The monster scared the hell out of me as a kid. The whole movie was way a head of its time. Ground breaking.
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Oct 31, 2008 6:54:10 AM CDT
I hope they cast the robot from the LOST IN SPACE movie!!!!
by bob cryptonight
Just kidding. But you know that the director will make HIS OWN "vision" of Robbie...and it will look stupid.
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How was Changling?
I miss B5.
Just got done with Captain Power bootlegs he wrote really well for that series. Too bad he does not do a movie for that. Might be cheap to do for him as a project since that's been dead for years. I think of Captain Power as a prequel to B5. It could fit. -
Maybe they could Jack Black to play the captain and Ben Stiller or Rob Sneider to play Cookie and turn it into a comedy.
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Oct 31, 2008 7:06:05 AM CDT
In the remake, Robbie will made crack cocaine for Earl Holliman!
by bob cryptonight
Actually, if they keep the story the same but add more involved action, it might be a nice, but unnecessary, remake.
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Just like in UNDER SIEGE!
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Wasn't Irvin Kershner doing a remake of FP several years ago?
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Seriously, couldn't pretty much anybody in the WGA whip out another version of The Tempest? I bet Moriarty would do it cheap if they asked him.
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Oct 31, 2008 7:53:47 AM CDT
Straczynski is wasting his time...Hollywood enough with remakes.
by space disc jockey
He should come up with a new show or write a totally original sci-fi script, instead of this. Leave the originals alone. What other 1950's B movies is Hollywood going to remake next? Anyone want to guess?
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of the studio taking a gamble and throwing a shitload of money on the sequel to what was essentially a low budget sci-fi horror that done ok.. and they lost big time.. so in order for us to keep getting the studios to gamble on projects like riddick they need to have money coming in from flicks like remakes/franchises etc... and i do love film, I’ve spent shitloads on memorabilia/props from my favourite films, pretty much flicks each and every nite but what I don’t do is get my knickers in a twist over remakes of all things, Hollywood produces lots of films, some shit, some good, some brilliant... give them a fucking break they can’t hit it out of the park and make each and every film original and sublime ffs, so for every dark knight we get a saw or a shit remake.. big fucking deal!
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JMS proved he understands how story telling works with B5! He also understands Science Fiction. Something that not all writers get. Those two things are clear. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking moron. Now wither or not they should remake one of my all time favorite movies is a debatable question. Another one is The Day The Earth Stood Still which from what I've seen of it so far has been changed so much from the original premise it looks bad. But we'll see.
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JMS is the man to do it, There must be a cameo by Robby the Robot. Also give Leslie Nielsen a cameo. Make him some admiral or something sending a video message to the crew. All true movie geeks must see this movie. Rent it now. It's over 50 years old, and still holds up. That's how good it is.
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Nothing can compare to the greatness of this movie. Don't even bother trying.
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"Babylon 5" alone is enough to make me believe JMS can write excellent science fiction. I never saw "Jericho" since I was always working when it was on, and "Changeling" looks like a directorial fart in the wind for Eastwood. Yeesh! on the latter.
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Oh, please, Hollywood only ever succeeds in spite of itself. Look at such films as STARSHIP TROOPERS. MILLIONS of Heinlein fans around the world. A built-in audience. So what did the studio do? Crapped on them with that stinker (so bad Heinlein's estate sued to get his name off it) and then they wondered why it didn't make the hoped-for megabucks. Feh. Much as I admire JMS, skip the remake and go for something new. Yes, Hollywood sometimes loses money at it (usually through incompetence), but it is also true that the top-grossing films of all time have tended to be new stuff. STAR WARS, ET, JAWS, and so on.
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would be the cherry on top of this remake. Again, if it must be remade make sure you use the best materials.
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That Louis and Bebe Barron's all-electronic soundtrack was the first and still the best example of electronic music set to a story. Their use of ring modulators--a circuit that gave out a unique sound as it burned out--has never been surpassed. That's a lot for a new composer to live up to.
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As much as I loved Babylon 5 all the way to its somewhat tepid end and even the spinoff, when he went to Marvel and wrote The Amazing Spider-man he did as much damage to the character and origin as the clone saga. Stick to movie screenplays and stay the hell away from my precious comic books.
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...I forward this info to the late Allen Adler's family (the original writer who was wrongly blacklisted) so they can fight it and they usually win. I promise this won't happen.
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Hell yeah! This is without a doubt my all time favourite movie and while I don't think a remake is needed I know I'll go watch it regardless. I just hope they get it right and tread lightly. Oh, and I agree whole heartedly with Grammaton, Ian McKellen would be perfect to replace Walter Pigeon...
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Oct 31, 2008 9:55:25 AM CDT
Straczynski wrote some great episodes on Babylon 5...
by leafar the lost
...but he will probably fail with the FORBIDDEN PLANET Remake. The last season of B5 was a let down, but the seasons leading up to it were some of the best sci/fi ever made. There was one show in particular I loved about the monk who had his memories erased. Before becoming a monk he was a seriel killer, and the family members of his victims came to B5 for revenge. One of those family members killed him. His sentence was to have his memories erased, and he ended up becoming a monk too, taking the place of his victim. I remember the head monk saying, "He will be well trained...". Ian McKellen is too old now for the Walter Pigeon role, unless JMS rewrites it as the girl's grandfather. Also, JMS saved the Spider-Man comics, so frak off if you don't like it!!!
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looks tremendous...for a 1956 movie, it holds up pretty well. Special effects are pretty good, the colors and mattes on this film, especially the Krell machines in HD, are kickass, and the soundtrack is in my top 5 of all movies. Ann Francis is pretty damn hot, wearing miniskirts before they became popular. I'd hate to see a remake though...Hollywood would fuck it up. I watched this recently with my kids, and the id melting the 3 layer door freaked them out...heh. Same with the invisible footprints on the stairs and sand.
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Hollywood:
MAKE SOMETHING NEW.
Even if it is like the 1980's where every movie is a mash-up of two seperate ideas...Make something new.
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This isn't happening! Stracznski might write it, and get paid for it, but it won't get made. For 10 years they have tried to remake this and every time it is stopped.
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Very few films benefit from being remade or "re-imagined". Forbidden Planet is a classic that has stood the test of time. A remake will pale by comparison. "Psycho", "Planet of the Apes", "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", "Halloween", "Journey to the Center of the Earth", "The Omen", "King Kong", etc. All good examples of remakes that failed to match or improve on the originals. Civil disobedience may be necessary!!
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Since JMS borrowed from Forbidden Planet for parts of B5, it seems likely that he'd treat it with respect. In fact, he's probably the only reason I'd go see it. Although, I'd still rather Hollywood get away from remakes and sequels though. I don't think we've ever seen such a creative drought in the history of the silver screen as we have these past eight years.
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I never watched Babylon 5, but JMS' Silver Surfer Requiem comic was beyond amazing. I was actually looking forward to his Surfer movie, especially if there was no sign of the Fantastic Four and we actually see Galactus. I think Forbidden Planet is a completely fine movie to remake. It's a 50+ year old movie, and it was already a re-imagining, of the Tempest. So updating the story could totally work. I don't understand all the bitching about remakes. If you don't like the new version, you can always watch the old version. Just like if you don't like a new run on a comic, you've always got the old one. Some stories can work in multiple tellings. Hell, this is what happens with mythology all the time. Hollywood movies are our modern mythology. So why not retell them? Of course, most of the remakes suck. But there are rare exceptions, which is why I'm not against them in principle.
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It's not because they ruin the original that it's so bad, it's because they've given up on creating new originals.
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The original is timeless. Robby is a clunky "mechanical man"--but "he's" a clunky mechanical man with personality (negotiated with a disembodied voice and a primitive chassis). He's Puck. The sets and special effects are indelibly 50s pulp. It's a time capsule. The remake will cruise on modern technology and an all-star cast (Jessica Alba as Altaira, you betcha; she doesn't need a remake, Alba needs a commercial hit. Her career is a junk pile). And it'll be bereft of charm. Yeah, I know that I have "no right" to comment on an unproduced movie. But you don't have to be psychic to realize anything today can't approximate a vintage "comic book" flair. As for the idiots, self-professed sci-fi aficionados who haven't seen this wonderful movie--you deserve to be locked into the Sci-Fi Channel syndrome. Furthermore, you don't deserve the original.
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"This Island Earth", I guess...?
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It's nothing new, folks. In the 30s, many studios were remaking scripts after only three years, or so. It'll always happen - the bitching is getting tedious.
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She's so damn hot in this movie, makes today's starlets look like boys. Unless you like boys.
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Yes, Hollywood would go into phases where they were sequel or remake happy but all those phases pale in comparison to recent years. Practically everything is a remake or a sequel now. And unlike the past, when Hollywood would grow out of it in a few years, this time, it shows no sign of abating. It has simply never been this intense.
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Looks like they're gonna start redoing all the 50's classics. Hollywood loves a trend. I've got many of them on DVD and Blu-ray. The Day the Earth Stood Still, Them!, 20 Million Miles to Earth, The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms, The Thing, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and among others Forbidden Planet. Please, just make something new. There are so many unused sources of material out there that could be made into new movies. They're just sitting there untouched. Piles of books. Or perhaps, you might just make... an o-rig-i-nal flick. Yeah! A NEW movie with NEW ideas. Maybe a NEW take on WHATEVER. I know they do make movies like that. But I'm sooo tired of these Prequel-sequel-remake-reimagining-redos! It's like a snake eating its own tail. bythehairofsanjaya, I think that would've been a cool ending. It puts a more tragic light on Morbius' condition. The last one left. All alone on a planet, just him and his big brain.
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To the asshole who said that Alba's career is a junk pile, shut the fuck up! When a woman is as insanely hot as Jessica Alba, she can make as many bad movies as she wants and it won't mean shit. Hollywood producers will still cast her in big time movies, because they want to have sexual relations with her. Until she hits the wall, she will continue her career, and she will not be in the Forbidden Planet remake.
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Oct 31, 2008 12:21:33 PM CDT
Actually, the "trend" was consistent throughout the past 100 yea
by hereagain
The remakes in the 60s/70s, tended to be MOW's, I'll grant you that. But for every tent-pole remake, there are twenty excellent smaller films. It appears a switch-off, between major studios and indie films, does take place sporadically. But, let's face it, these remakes make money, or they wouldn't be doing it. Blame the tweener audiences - most of them haven't seen the originals. The average filmgoer skews younger. Everybody I know (30s/40s) is renting DVDs, and avoiding the godawful blockbuster crap - remakes or not. The industry is evolving, and the next few years will reflect that, I think.
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studios won't pour money into new projects. Wheneve you buy three tickets to The Dark Knight, whenever you buy a Star Wars toy, whenever you buy the Crystal Skull DVD, you send a message. "I want safe. I want something I know." IF a suit has to choose between "FORBIDDEN REMAKE" and "SCRIPTWRITER'S UNKNOWN SCI-FI" he will choose Forbidden Planet. And it's your fault. This site's main audience. (I've heard a lot of people here dismissing Children of Men for god's sake.)
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they are afraid of the potential for failure (see RIDDICK as mentioned above), for one thing. and i can't even get anyone to even look at my ideas, for the fear of being sued should they make something vaguely similar in the future. i will quit now before i start ranting...
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Save a few million dollars and bad reviews and just promote the original movie! Think about it. It's in color so "the kids will go see it". It's got great special effects and could also serve as a history lesson how movies used to be made. Hey, and even release it in the theaters with a big promotion...with commercials and trailers for it and everything! Why not do that then making some idiotic movie. And trust me, the remake will be idiotic and awful. I don't care who you put in charge of it. Who you get to write it. Who you get to direct it or star in it....it will be awful. Yes, remakes have been made for the last 100 years blah blah blah. Maybe it's time to stop that cycle then.
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Is there no-one in the movie industry sufficiently amphetamine-free to knock out an original screenplay?Anyone? Hello?
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I'll flip the "blah, blah, blah" right back at you. I'm sure the screeching in here will be oh-so-effective in changing how the industry operates. The only way a studio is going to promote the "original" film, is as a DVD release, and ONLY if it has selling potential.
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What on earth are they going to have to remake in 20 years?
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...double-feature...
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Does anyone know what is happening with this? The last I heard, JMS was writing the screenplay...
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Seriously. Boycott remakes. While I'm at it, fuck CGI. And fuck CGI objects flying into the camera when something explodes. If I have another CGI car tire or CGI door fly at me in a movie, I'm going to vomit blood. Sets please. No more CIG panoramic backdrops. Practical cars please. No more CGI end over end barrel roll and keep driving car stunts. WHERE THE HELL DID HOLLYWOOD GO? I want my 1980's Hollywood back. This is not cinema. This is not anything to be excited about. This is flat and does not resonate.
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...is unfortunately gone forever. It's not that the movies were so great, but the audiences were wowed by the stunts and the sets. In this post CGI era, there's no more wow factor. Nobody is wondering, "how the hell did they do that???" anymore. But perhaps we could get back to the 70s at least.
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They'll remake this. Spend a ton of money on the CGI. People will go see it and I'm sure it will make a profit for the producers. Of course they won't promote the original or re-release it back into theaters. We all know this. It's nice to dream though, isn't it? There is no way to stop this remake madness as it's always been profitable to do. You hype something enough and you'll make a buck...no matter how bad it really is.
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Leslie Nielsen in where he has black hair.
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and shove it up your ass. Come back when you have an idea of your own.
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and i hated it.
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ruined any chance of the studios throwing the kind of money that book needs to be done right with those last 2 fuck ups of his... Why dont they make original movies?? fer fucks sakes lads!!! they make originals/sequels/remakes all the fucking time, every single fucking film cant be original.. use your common sense and stop being an arsehole anyone with even a modicum of wit would know why they do remakes ffs, heck if by some miracle of god one of you spent the day in charge of a studio you'd understand that first and foremost its a fucking business!!
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Yeah, what's up with Hollywood making such Unoriginal movies? Why don't they make Original movies anymore? Like the Original Forbidden Planet. That was a movie so totally Original it was mindblowing. I mean, it wasn't Shakespear or anything, but at least it was Original! Hey, I have another Totally Original idea for a scifi movie! How about this: two young, star-crossed lovers fall in interplanetary love with each other, but at the end commit suicide? A tale so Original nobody's ever told it!
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Good lord, can they do anything besides remake a movie anymore. I'm sorry, Forbidden Planet, The Day the Earth Stood Still, etc. are flat out classics that do NOT need a remake. What's next a Superman remake but as a twist they throw in a bastard kid???
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...live action but i doubt that anyone could pull it off.
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RGB Complete Series comes out on DVD through Time-Life on November 15th. Also, making posts lamenting remakes/sequels is really, really, really overdone and pretty f*cking lame in its own right.
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Oct 31, 2008 9:20:27 PM CDT
But we already HAVE a cooler remake of "The Tempest" being made.
by anna valerious
...although it'd be cooler if Russell Brand was playing Ariel instead of the jester.
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I think from this point on there should NEVER be an original movie again...only remakes! Please for the love of god keep them coming!!
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All you guys quit yer cryin' about remakes..For fucks sake just dont watch them if you dont like em. You act like once the remake comes out some studio fucktard will come along and destroy all copies of the original so forever you guys are stuck watchin the remake.
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is that is actually IS Shakespeare. It's based on "The Tempest", which was also made in the 80's with Molly Ringworm. Ah, the 80's....
I saw a double feature of the original Forbidden Planet with The Day The Earth Stood Still at the Aero theater in Santa Monica a couplem years ago. You wouldn't believe how cool it is on the big screen, how well it holds up - if they released it today, about the only thing that dates it is Robby, the costumes, and the designs. It's so bad ass. It felt like a James Cameron flick on the big screen.
I say...if you wanna see new stories, get out your pencil and write the fucker. I'm serious as shit, too. Do you know how many Original scripts are floating around Hollywood that are total shit? MOST of them. And I mean, really, really fucking BAD. -
GOLDEN AGE...
we were coming out of the 70's and low budget grindhouse movies. any and every single damn idea for horror and sci-fi (back when they were both in the same category) was done on the cheap. soooooooo many weird ideas were being done cause the mindset of "crank 'em out" was still in effect. today, though, people don't go to the movies as much cause their home systems kick ass, so every movie's gotta be a huge hit or something, so people are less daring because less movies are made. I mean, there used to be cartoons and double features - funny enough, the cartoons went to tv and got better in some ways, but the sci fi and horror got neutered and we've got, what...the sci-fi channel? for every ONE good show they put out, they have 12 that are SHIT. and they all sound alike. I mean, you know how OLD it is to hear someone say "yeah, I've got this idea for an EPIC sci-fi movie...blah blah CHOSEN ONE...blah blah EPIC BATTLE" - I mean, no one even reads fucking books anymore...there are so many bad ass ideas out there. I just read the first two DUNE books recently...and, MAN!! they are fuckin' WEIRD!! and COOL! I mean, I believe the original ideas will come back, we're starting to see it in Horror movies a little bit, at least the effort is there to do something different...Superheroes are the new sci-fi...it'll burn out in years, and we'll go back to real sci-fi. People will realize this after AVATAR comes out, and then BATTLE ANGEL, and people will go "OOooooohhhh.... so THAT"S what cool sci-fi looks like"
If we really need a remake, my vote is for THE STUFF. -
If you haven't done so, watch Forbidden Planet and the not-really-a-sequel The Invisible Boy back to back. There's a hint of time travel in the latter film and a potential story thread that could work for a more compelling remake. A lot of people dismissed the 2nd film as a cheap attempt to get some more mileage (and cash) out of Robbie by shoehorning him into a bad Frankenstein-type movie. I disagree as The Invisible Boy is better than you think ESPECIALLY if you closely watch the scene where they explain how Robbie came to be on Earth and the shot of the picture on the wall. JMS might expand whatever he's thinking for the remake script by considering the 2nd film as well. Thoughts?
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This is going forward!
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was the plot mish mash. "It's Die Hard in an amusement park + Jurassic Park + The Matrix"Now, its just, lets remake "fill-in-the-blank", to the point that the old mishmash is now original thinking.
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I'll one-up you, and say actually it was the '70s that was the golden age. The sixties, of course had Planet Of The Apes and 2001 to name just two, but besides Star Wars and Star Trek, the '70s had THX 1138, Andromeda Strain, Silent Running, Colussus:The Forbin Project, Colockwork Orange, Westworld, Stepford Wives, Soylent Green, A Boy And His Dog, Rollerball, The Man Who Fell To Earth, Close Encounters, Demon Seed, Alien and Mad Max. All based on novels or original ideas, and most having a subtext, an idea, beyond stimulating the "eye candy" portion of the brain.
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I think I might have to agree with you there. The 80's reaped the benefits of what the 70's paved the way for...same with music...Led Zeppelin paved the way for Metallica and Megadeth, and Star Wars paved the way for...*ahem* Megaforce *ahem*
Phantasm is a pretty good metaphor for tracking this...The original has that same Star Wars 70s feel, but they "stayed the course" and filmed, what, 4 sequels, up until a couple years ago? with the SAME actors? They were actually planning a remake of the original, with an all new cast, but is now dead in the water as of last year...check it:
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/070407f.php
I do like the 70s vibe best of all - I'll concede to a favorite period being the late 70s - early 80s. The budgets got expanded for the 80's so we were able to see the fruits of our labors there...I guess you could say it just never stopped, and now we've peaked to the point to where actors and salaries are starting to diminish a bit because...damn...where the hell's all this money supposed to come from?
I guess we can just borrow it, or ask the government for it.... -
And Babylon 5 really, really sucks, easily one of the clunkiest, cheesiest sci-fi shows to take itself seriously . . .
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you know what i'm talking about people!
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...as pretty much every episode of the original Star Trek. Seriously. As much as I love "Trek" anyone who can't see that Roddenberry stole hand over fist from Forbidden Planet is blind.
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EVERYTHING is a remake of something, my GOD people there are NO new ideas under the sun, only different ways to re-arrange and present them.
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Remaking FP. I know, let's remake Star Wars while we're at it. There's about a gazillion SF novels out there I'd love to see made into major motion pictures. Read a book sometime producers. Follow through on MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS, or John Carter, or HYPERION, or a less obvious fave of mine Colin Kapp's TRANSFINITE MAN. Cull the HUGO Award winners for a wealth of material. Enough sequels and remakes.
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