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‘See, What We Need Now Is A Mirror!!’ Herc Has Seen The Hilarious PUSHING DAISIES 2.5, Airing Tonight Against Obama!!

Published at:  Oct 29, 2008 12:31:16 PM CDT

SPOILER ALERT !!

I am – Hercules!!


Pushing Daisies 2.5 FAQ

What’s it called?
“Dim Sum Lose Some.”

Who’s responsible?
Teleplay is credited to Davey Holmes (who wrote the many double-psychoanalyst Paul & Gina episodes of HBO’s “In Treatment”).

What says ABC?
“Ned is startled when a mysterious man (guest star Stephen Root) appears at the diner claiming to be an old friend and associate of his dad's and asks for his help in finding him. Meanwhile, Emerson investigates a murder at a dim sum restaurant and reunites with Simone (guest star Christine Adams), the polygamist's widow and dog obedience trainer who once caught his eye. Guest starring in "Dim Sum Lose Some" are Stephen Root as Dwight Dixon, Daeg F. Faerch as Ingmar, Christine Adamas as Simone, Mae Hi as La Di Ting, Ping Wu as Bao, Andrea Lui as Mei, Blake Kushi as Rubbie, Ron Yuan as Shrimp Boy, Allen C. Liu as Perry the Busboy, Teddy Chen Culver as the Busboy, Chao-Li chi as Hua Jaing, Alex Miller as Maurice and Graham Miller as Ralston.”

Does Ned find his dad?
Not this week.

Does Emerson find his daughter?
No.

Is Emerson’s reacquaintance with hot British obedience girl tied to his investigation?
It is.

The big news?
This may be the funniest episode of the season; it’s actually a better Cod episode than last week’s Cod-centric installment.

What else is ABC not telling us?
Chuck conveniently speaks fluent Mandarin. Olive quickly develops the hots for Dwight Dixon, whom one suspects will return in future installments.

What’s doing with Lily and Vivian?
Whatever it is, they’re still doing it offscreen.

What’s great?
Chenoweth. McBride generally, and in particular the obedience-driven thrall in which Simone continues to hold Emerson. The slinky on the roulette table. Ned’s piss-shiver. Ned, Emerson, Olive and Chuck in disguise. “See, what we need now is a mirror.” “You ain’t hear what I just said?” “Surprise random pie delivery!” “I’m glad Dad got so fun and creative with naming after I left.” “But you are so wrong!” “Nice! It’s a solid payout!” “Boss, I got an uncomfortable fullness of the bladder.” “What’s going on?”

What’s not so great?
This episode? Made me really hungry.

How does it end, spoiler-boy?
“Dwight agreed.”

“L-Prime” liked it too:

What says TeeVee Guide?
“Ned is shocked when a man (Stephen Root) shows up at the Pie Hole inquiring about Ned's father. Meanwhile, Emerson investigates a murder at a Chinese restaurant and has a reunion with Simone (Christine Adams).”

Does that leave anything out?
Interestingly, quite a bit. The always delightful Stephen Root incites the action, so to speak, but it later leads to familial reveals of another sort, and not all is as it seems with Mr. Waddams.

Does Ned's father appear?
No, but various characters do venture to the last known address of Mr. Ned Sr., of which we had last known Ned to have the whereabouts through the Dear-John-ish postcard he received as a child in flashback last season. Turns out the old man may have had a habit for pulling a bit of a rabbit out of family homes.

So the father hunt is fruitless?
Let's not go that far. Familiar eyebrows and false-bottom boxes come into play.

What about Chuck's maternal problems?
Lily and Vivian are again absent this week. Chuck's situation is brushed off with barely a single line of dialogue.

Emerson's daughter?
Neither hide nor hair.

Then who's this Simone he is reuniting with again?
The strict yet compelling dog trainer/breeder from last season. There were sparks, sparks that seem to still be sparky.

How's about the mystery?
Honestly, as much as I've complained about the mysteries for a while now, this episode benefited from one of the best so far. It was colourful, in numerous ways, with a genuine emotional tie into the main storylines, plus just a hint of Mickey Rooney-esque racism, which as we all know is the most entertaining kind.

Clever title.
Fitting in with aforementioned mystery – Emerson et al set about investigating the death of a cook at the dim sum place below Cod Investigations, with all of the Chinese restaurant neon and kitsch that entails. I dare you not to crave dumplings at the end of this hour.

What's good?
“He invested his life savings in a bakery at a time when carbohydrates had fallen completely out of fashion.”; “Do you ever shiver when you pee? That's how I felt when he spoke.”; “I think he's cute. Hi!”; “This complicates things, you may need to pay for the pie.”; “See what we need now is a mirror.”; “Cod sampling a new dumpling, and the look on his face when he gets a lid closed on him.”; “It's my clue pad. For writing down clues.”; “I was expecting Emerson to say something snarky.”; “Are we spying? I love spying!”; “...Except that their complexities are so complex, it makes this shallow conversation seem absurd.”; “His steamed buns blur the line between eating and sex, but we weren't acquainted.”; “Pie delivery! Surprise random pie delivery!”; “Who shrieked?” “I might've shrieked.”; “You think just because you's dead you ain't gonna tell us what you was up to, but you is soooo wrong.”; delightfully over-the-top faux-Chinaman costumes; Emerson and Ned undercover in general;
“Keep walkin'! I love gongs! Nothing wrong with that!”

Less good?
The fact that each week brings us inexorably closer to the end of this delightful hour of television. Ratings, as Herc so aptly put it last week, suck large. Safe money would probably see it gone before sweeps. I mean, what's it competing with this week? Some Bo-rock guy? Who'd wanna watch him? This move by ABC to keep the original airing opposite the prime-time sojourn by Mr. Obama is either a pretty sizeable vote of confidence, or an easy way to guarantee it low enough ratings to justifiably pull the plug. Alphabet, if you're listening, pretty please let us keep our pie maker and dead girl.

How does it end?
Jimmy James, the man so nice they named him twice, watches from a distance with a pound or two of steel at his side.


8 p.m. Wednesday. ABC.






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    Readers Talkback

  • Oct 29, 2008 12:24:44 PM CDT

    Watch this show

    by thebostonstrangler

    It's damn good!

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  • Oct 29, 2008 12:26:12 PM CDT

    Although the Obama Show may be good too!

    by thebostonstrangler

  • Oct 29, 2008 12:29:57 PM CDT

    Root was on True Blood this week too

    by thebostonstrangler

  • Oct 29, 2008 12:30:21 PM CDT

    I initially thought 2.5 was the rating (in stars).

    by tonagan

  • Oct 29, 2008 12:30:26 PM CDT

    I'm really excited about this..

    by bunksteve

    Yay! Maybe this will be the first Bryan Fuller show to get a third season! And maybe I'll stop using exclamation points! MAYBE!!!!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Oct 29, 2008 12:30:47 PM CDT

    Watched this show

    by aloy

    Better than the average ep but I'm still in the leave it category.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 12:31:45 PM CDT

    I almost wish this would get cancelled

    by jackdonkey

    So Bryan Fuller can go back to making awesome shows instead of merely above average shows. I'll be watching Obama tonight though he's the man.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 12:31:49 PM CDT

    I will be watching both!

    by erichaislar

    DVR be damned!

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  • Oct 29, 2008 12:42:11 PM CDT

    Great Show and will watch Obama as well

    by eh nam1313

    Love Pushing...but have to watch Obama too

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  • Oct 29, 2008 12:42:32 PM CDT

    *happydance*

    by buffywrestling

    I hope people watch tonight. Supposedly, Gina Torres is guest starring on an episode. I *want* to see that.

    Reply to Talkback

  • And Tony Danza as Tony.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 1:23:35 PM CDT

    Great, Obama's gonna kill this show.

    by flickchick85

    As if it wasn't having to struggle enough in the ratings...

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  • Oct 29, 2008 1:40:48 PM CDT

    The world needs more Stephen Root!

    by derlanghaarige

  • Oct 29, 2008 1:55:07 PM CDT

    Jimmy James rules!

    by skimn

    Stephen Root improves the quality of anything he's on.I think ABC made a mistake of not airing episodes over the summer, instead of some dumb "I Survived A Japanese Game Show". This show needed care to survive, and the shortened writers strike season, was a stake to its heart. Also, there was less competition on the air last year...Kids Town, or whatever that was?

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  • Oct 29, 2008 1:56:11 PM CDT

    Watch Pushing

    by skimn

    Tape ObamaWatch during Private Practice...there.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 2:02:59 PM CDT

    WNYX is back on the air

    by the mcpoyle clan

    Jimmy James wouldn't be out of place in the PD universe.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 2:11:41 PM CDT

    The reason...

    by 24200124

    What's sad is that the Nielsen ratings DON'T REPRESENT ME. I love "Pushing Daisies" and really want to see more episodes of this. It's one of TV's best-written, best-cast, and best-produced shows; just because it may be too "smart" for some jackoff in Pussyfart, Montana who's got a Nielsen box doesn't mean it should get cancelled. If so, that means that another good and thoughtful TV show goes away, only to be replaced by the latest lowest-common-denominator fad show. Maybe it'll be another competition show, like "The Biggest Loser" or "So You Think You Can Dance" or "I Fucked Your Mom, So Give Me Money". TV these days can be disgustingly horrible, and it's bright spots like "Pushing Daisies" that make it tolerable.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 2:41:34 PM CDT

    why didn't ABC show reruns of this earlier in the year?

    by seekshelter

    its an acclaimed show that if you didn't see it first run or on dvd, then they probably weren't going to be adding to the audience...

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  • Oct 29, 2008 2:50:01 PM CDT

    GOING AGAINST OBAMA?

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

    JESUS CHRIST. Daisies is fucked.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 3:05:41 PM CDT

    Wonderfall over again

    by chickenmonkey

    Why do all the shows I like get screwed by their own networks, but shows like Reba and Arli$$ go on for six or seven seasons?

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  • Oct 29, 2008 3:17:22 PM CDT

    does the Neilson

    by aabiohazard1972

    Do the Rateing include the amount of viewers watching the replay on web? I have only watched this show on Internet (its what made me purchase the DVD set) I am willing to bet most everyone does this, its a brillient way to bring in views of any time slot and those views should count for rateings

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  • Oct 29, 2008 3:28:39 PM CDT

    p.s.

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

    Obama just lost my vote.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 5:17:24 PM CDT

    Like Arrested Development v. Winter Olympics

    by larry of arabia

    Anyone remember that gem of an idea by Fox?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Oct 29, 2008 5:53:44 PM CDT

    Ooh, full screen!!

    by gotilk

    I'll take minus 2 of those thank you.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 6:16:22 PM CDT

    Fuck Obama, I'm watching Pushing Daisies

    by br1947

    It's more realistic :-)

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  • Oct 29, 2008 6:29:28 PM CDT

    PD for the win!

    by drbad

    I voted two weeks ago for the big O, why would anyone need to watch YET ANOTHER POLITICAL AD!? AS Cenac said on the Daily Show, IT'S OVER!

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  • Oct 29, 2008 8:22:47 PM CDT

    Needed more Stephen Root!!!

    by jackislost

    But despite that, still a great, great episode. I flipped to The Barry Obama Variety Special during commercials and found it to be a rather disgusting exercise in masturbation. But back to PUSHING DAISIES--the facts are these: as much as I love the show, I won't be surprised if it gets canceled. Not only does it have middling ratings but it costs an absolute FORTUNE to produce (A-list actors, tons of costumes, sets and special effects, etc.) so while I would love for it to keep going, I won't blame ABC for pulling the plug. They have given the show every chance and if it goes extinct, it will be viewers' fault for not tuning in.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 8:35:43 PM CDT

    Yea, as much as it pains me, ABC has given it a shot

    by br1947

    I love this show but JackIsLost is right. It's just a matter of time and I can't even really be mad at ABC when they do pull th plug, they have given it a good shot. I do however blame the numbnuts who would watch Obama's spewfest over this.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 10:34:37 PM CDT

    TWINS!

    by buffywrestling

    Oh how can they cancel the show just when they introduced parlour magician twins?? I want to see more of Reese and Ralston already. Such a good episode so far - both H,erc and L-prime were right about the random pie delivery; hilarious.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 11:40:47 PM CDT

    buffywrestling gets us

    by hercules

    At the risk of stigmatizing her, she's probably my favorite talkbacker. Even when she inserts random punctuation into my name.

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  • Oct 29, 2008 11:42:09 PM CDT

    How exactly have they given it a chance?

    by fisheatingjoe

    They barely promote it on television. All you ever see are those terrible Eli Stone promos.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 12:02:49 AM CDT

    The Facts Are These

    by steve young

    This is such a likable show. When it first aired I was put off by its forced whimsy, but it doesn't bug me now. It's set in a fantasy world. It's so visually dense, and the plots are labyrinthine. Like Hercules, I was also made hungry by this episode. Enjoy it while it lasts, people... feel lucky it accomplished a second season!

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  • Oct 30, 2008 12:13:56 AM CDT

    So Herc Has the Talkback Hots for Buffywrestling?

    by writefromleft

    And how does he know she's a she? And will he/she ever learn to use spell-check before he/she posts, and if he/she does, will he/she lose his/her charm? I asks you.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 12:15:24 AM CDT

    Labyrinthine plots?

    by gislef_crow

    Well, yeah, but only to confuse the viewer so they don't figure out the obvious killer. Even so, was anybody really surprised who tonight's murderer was? Or last week's? Granted, on this show getting there is most of the value, not the "solve the mystery" angle. But PD has the least mysterious mysteries since Monk.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 1:01:18 AM CDT

    Pushing Daisies BLOOOOOWWWS!!!!!!

    by citizen sane

    This show had so much potential. But while forcing myself through most of last season's episodes waiting for this daisy to bloom, I found myself fighting off ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    Now after having caught up on some rest thanks to beeing lulled into this season's lazy Daisies slumper, it is clear to me that a stiff wind will blow this under-nourished and delicate blossom out of the fields and down the river.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 1:35:08 AM CDT

    Coaxial and Herc is win!

    by buffywrestling

    And I'm only a tiny bit stigmatized - not even close to the "Patrica Arquette on the Subway" level. So thanks much and yay! for mutual favortism.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 1:35:56 AM CDT

    Blu-Ray Players: $210.18!!

    by napoleon park

    Or you could give up on a technology that has so far only achieved 4% market penetration, like C|Net predicts Sony will do in a year. The result of the Blu-ray vs. HD wars is that both sides lost. You can get an entry level DVD player for $29.95 - for $210.18 you can buy nine of them.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 1:36:33 AM CDT

    Writefromleft

    by buffywrestling

    Spellchecking is for pussies.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 1:54:03 AM CDT

    Citizen Sane

    by buffywrestling

    That was one of the most whimiscal and poetic hater posts I have ever read (what sold it for me was "beeing" - unintentional or not - after the Zzzzz).

    I like to keep hope alive and say to myself that they will finish off this season but it's become zombie-like hope at this point. The last of the 13 episodes starts filming Monday and Fuller hasn't heard anything yet from the network. Bad sign, that. And they just introduced the twins! And Gina Torres was supposed to do a guest spot! Damn my curiousty to want to see that. Damn it.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 4:00:41 AM CDT

    This must go on.

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

    Come on. Can someone else please pick this up? Some shitty channel like MyTV or something? COME ON DAMMIT.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 5:23:46 AM CDT

    best of the season, by the way

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

    and that's saying a lot.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 5:41:31 AM CDT

    love this show

    by palewook

    only thing on regular tv i watch. PD continues to be brilliant. so different and so special, you have to wonder how much longer it lasts.

    originality and regular tv tends not to last.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 7:01:53 AM CDT

    When will they account for DVR and Tivo in ratings?

    by drath

    Okay sure, people fast forward over commercials that way--but if you think about it, if they see something good they'll go back and isn't that a great thing too? If people record shows they like, then they're watching the show, and that at least is something you can plan your ads around (as in subliminal or placement or something). Honestly, I hate the ratings discussions.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 8:47:04 AM CDT

    Why would Obama draw viewers away from this?

    by _maltheus_

    Doesn't everyone already know which way they're voting? I can see a debate hurting PDs ratings, but I would think PD would benefit from there being nothing else on TV to watch. I'm still hoping that NBC finds a way to keep it on. It's one of the only shows I watch that doesn't suck this season. But then this country is full of retards. I just read a scifiwire list of how shows are doing ratings wise and all the good ones are at the bottom while a couple fucking ghost shows are at the top. Ghosts, really?!?!? I have more respect for people who believe in UFO abductions. We're a fucking nation of children.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 8:52:53 AM CDT

    They MUST continue to have Chuck and Olive

    by skimn

    play dress-up. First nuns, now geishas..damn those ladies are darned cute!! I want to be the meat filling in a Chuck and Olive panini.Oh, and a Stephen Root cliffhanger? Too bad it'll be abandoned like the Paul Ruebens sniffer.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 8:57:30 AM CDT

    Switched over during a commercial break

    by skimn

    to see Obama bring up his mothers insurance woes while battling cancer. Has that become his "McCain POW story"? Course I switched back.Will Obama's "Man From Hope" half hour sway those undecided? I don't think at this point.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 9:51:43 AM CDT

    Drath, I agree. When I record a show, even on fastforward

    by big jim

    I still see the commercials. If something catches my eye I'll rewind and watch it. When I watch tv live I never see the commercials. At the break I will change the channel to something else, usually whatever sporting event is on that day, or a Seinfeld or Simpsons rerun.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 12:01:04 PM CDT

    26 Million Viewers Across FOX, NBC, CBS

    by mr. profit

    And that's not including the viewership from MSNBC, Univision, BET, and TVOne. Why ABC took a risk by denying guaranteed money is beyond me. Especially since the scatter market out there is terrible, so any bit of ad sales you can make you should take. Especially if it's over 500K (The estimated cost of the Obama ad for each network it aired on.)

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  • Oct 30, 2008 2:20:44 PM CDT

    Glad to see it go

    by fart_master_flex

    So now I don't have to hear my wife talk about how hot Lee Pace is. Seriously hon....I get it.

    Okay, this is my favorite show on TV now that Mad Men has ended for the season. If this gets cancelled, I don't know, I'll get mad. Honestly, everything I like gets cancelled, it is hard to make a committment to anything. No one at my work has even heard of it, so what chance does it have.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 3:21:51 PM CDT

    Improved a million from last week

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

    Still low, but good news kind of.

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  • Oct 30, 2008 3:23:15 PM CDT

    Fart_Master

    by skimn

    I know what you mean. I was in a group meeting at work yesterday organized as a "generation" workshop. It was regarding all generations (baby boomer, gen x, gen y, etc.)in the workplace, working simultaneously for the first time in history. Toward the end of the meeting, I mentioned to a group of about 30 people if anyone watches Mad Men, thinking it was a perfect topic. You could hear crickets.......

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  • Oct 30, 2008 11:19:19 PM CDT

    Improved by viewers

    by buffywrestling

    but still not enough according to the depressive commenters on bythenumbers. They are gabbing about Fuller trying to get a time change and about rewriting the 13th ep as the series finale. Gina Torres was supposed to be Pembelton's ex-wife! *cries* How will they find L'll Gumshoe now?

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  • Oct 30, 2008 11:22:25 PM CDT

    Pembleton?

    by buffywrestling

    What the hell? *flashback to my main bald, black man from H:LotS*

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  • Nov 03, 2008 5:49:09 PM CST

    Ratings AFTER World Series, Election....

    by chromedome

    Could improve.... hope they give the good bubble shows a chance....

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