But when she was gone, I liked it again.
I was with it until they mentioned a mole in the FBI...
Robot bollock.
..maybe it was a good thing to have so much time off from 24. It allows me forget what a fucking disaster 20 out of the 24 episodes from season 6 were. Here's hoping they've used that time to really keep this season great, since I haven't LOVED a season since season 2.
i'm a big fan of 24 and was looking forward to the retcon/reboot of season 7...but really the writters strike and fox insistance of delaying the show for almost 2 years has led me to believ that maybe the show is done..i mean we had 5 great seasons and one ok season...hopefully this one is great but hopefully its the last, pump out oa movie or 2 (sropping the real time aspect, but jeeping the cvharacters and situations
If Jack keeps killing his friends, ex-lovers, and family members he'll soon have no one left.
I'm in the same boat as seanny_d. I think enough time has passed where I think I'll enjoy it a bit more than I may have if there wasn't such a long interval in-between seasons.
Maybe Jack will bite someone's toe off this year. Little piggy ain't making it to the market....
Excites me the most. It's about time Jack had to go up against someone at least marginally as badass as he is. I hope Tony brings it hardcore and he and Jack have a battle of titan badasses. I really hope he doesn't turn out to be a triple-agent actually working for the good guys in the end. Make him disillusioned and ready to commit some hate-crime. Color me excited. Now if only Tony and Nina could team up against him...
That trailer was great. It gave us two great Jack Bauer lines:
Bad guy: Jack Bauer! I didn't know you were FBI.
I'm not. I'm just along for the ride. and
And this time you will STAY dead!
I would have only liked it better if Jack had said "I watched him die".
I am sick of all the whining.
WAAAAAAHHHH???? Say it aint so, To!
I've been watching this show since the beginning and I think thta's the only way to really appreciate it. All the little charcater stuff adds up to make an engrossign drama. I've thorughly enjoyed EVERY seaso nof this show, including S3 which was grossly underrated. Many people bailed before it's ass-kicking last half. S4 (or the year of the neo-con) even had it's charms. I'll admit S6 was a departure fro mthe usual greatness but this season looks to really up the ante and bounce this show back to elite status. Tha trailer fucking ruled and the I also agree the hiatus has probably helped this show. I have really missed it and I'm ready for Jack Bauer to be unleashed once again!
That trailer ruled. I don't think there has been more ownage crammed into a 2 minute time period.
24 to be a serious piece of action drama and accept it as a slightly ridiculous piece of fluff entertainment, then it's very enjoyable. Season 7 should be barmy yet great fun. Also, Season 3 was the best season.
I just realised, that means they've been through all of the Robocop guys on 24 not. That rocks.
As for that new trailer, it all looks cool except seeing Jack interrogating Tony Almeida. I hope Almeida doesn't turn out to be the punk they bust early in the day, I want him to be the main villain!
For a show so ostensibly about time constraints, it's just sad.
Besides, with the Bushinator leaving office soon, can we finally get Jack to stop saying Nuculer?
BEWARE!
"Mommy, who is that man sitting beside us on the plane?"
"That's Jack Bauer, dear."
5 Minutes Later...
"Oh my God! Terrorists have seized the plane!"
5 Minutes Later...
"We would have escaped if one of the passengers hadn't told them our plans."
"You mean we have mole? That's impossible."
"Jack Bauer is sitting over with the other hostages."
"Ah yes, it makes sense now. Hey remember that last plane trip we took and Jessica Fletcher was onboard?"
"And all those people got murdered?"
"Yeah. Some people should never be allowed on planes."
He wasn't in last season as he was "dead".
You have to watch the new season along with the rest of us to find out the answers, my friend.
Were have you been Jack? You never wrote, you never called.... Too long have we had to endure shitty television like CSI:Utah and the Gobshite Girls. Hail to the King for TVs wasteland warrior has returned. Thank Fuck.
President Logan actually dying from his stab wounds is that it keeps the window open to bring the character back. I think the reason that people love this show, is because it's like your standard action series like CBS' The Unit, but pumped up with extra steriods and attitude. And outrageousness also.
Regardless of all the whining, you know this to be true.
It makes the show look like it's going to be different, but then you watch the trailer and you can't help but hear all the same buzz phrases that made last year's 24 so boring (the casualties will be in the hundreds of thousands, we have a leak, etc). I just wish they'd do a total revamp and make it less action based, which is what made season 1 so great. There wasn't a gun being used in every episode, it was a mystery show not an action show. I will say that Season 5 was maybe my favorite season though, so I don't think this show is completely lost in its current formula...in fact I rather enjoyed season 6 until the main storyling ended and we had to deal with the Chinese, Philip Bauer (James Cromwell, wtf were you thinking?), and that annoying fucking nephew of Jack's (who I'm still convinced was actually his son). It might've been good if Phillip Bauer wasn't just a bad rehash of Christopher Henderson. Hopefully the lack of CTU will also mean the lack of certain cliches the show has subsisted on for so long.
Cuz he would so do that. So long, War on Terrorism.
October 29, 2008 11:18 AM CST
by newc0253
I'm at work so i can't access the latest trailer, but 24 is in desperate need of a reboot and i fear that it's been gone too long to recover the magic.
season 5 and season 6 both started well but i've always thought the former was very overrated and the latter ended up stinking worse than my ass...
I hope she gets the Kim Bauer treatment-i.e, stays tied up and gagged for a few episodes...it would be about friggin time with her! And the whole "you will stay dead this time"-its cool and all, but Jacks hardly one to talk! How many times has he died now? Probably th once actually, I just havent watched in ages
Hmm.
What's with all the sunglasses scenes with Jack on the courthouse steps? Is this a CSI crossover?
Seeing as she was in the trailer I would say yes.
Bring it on, I'm so ready for a new season of 24. They had better have a good explanation for why in the hell Almeida is alive! Was the Cubs mug actually the Holy Grail?
I clearly wasnt paying enough attention...just like I havent really being paying attention to 24 for s few seasons. Start as you mean to go on I say!
and that nerd was ME
The Silent Clock decides who lives and dies. Do not question the omnipotent power of that sound effect!
October 29, 2008 12:31 PM CST
by I Hope You Die
24 is television distilled to its creamy entertaining essence. I need it.
I really wish that some of the elected Republican officials in this country would realize that 24 is in fact, not real. Jack Bauser's a fictional character. He doesn't exist. Last year Tom Tancredo actually said in a debate(to justify torture, by the way) "I'm looking for Jack Bauer!" Really? Shit, man...why stick with one fictional mortal if you're going to look for a fictional character to save the real world from terrorist threats? Why no fucking go nuts, and look for Superman or Robocop or Hong-Kong-Fooey or Voltron while you're at it? I love 24, but I understand that it's not a documentary. Which I guess puts me one up on a lot of Republicans involved in politics.
Because who cares how many Africans have been killed up to that point?
I'm sure the old one is out there because people downloaded it and save it to their hard drive. Or it's on some obscure website that hasn't been mentioned yet.
I loved 24 in its first four seasons, until it became ridden with cliches and seemed to constantly recycle its storylines over and over. I've always said that sometimes a show needs to completely upset the apple cart and star fresh. Seeting the story somewhere other than LA is a good start, but my idea was to completely get rid of CTU and all supporting characters and just have Jack going after smaller threats. Please god, no more moles or traitors or political coups. None of it is surprising.
Amen to that.
it's good to be the king
Jack Bauer start walking and taking his glasses off like Horatio Caine?
This is a good thing.
if the explanation for his resurrection is credible, and he's a kickass villain, then 24 will have likely redeemed itself. If we get the same tired bag of tricks, then it's time to put a bullet in it.
Well at least the writers are coming up with some new ideas this time...
Someone should tell Jack that the only way to kill a zombie is to DESTROY THE BRAIN! Like he did with his innocent boss, Chappelle.
October 29, 2008 2:57 PM CST
by billypilgrimisunstuck
Really?
they are wearing the mantle of past success there, ain't they--"we used to be good, so it is a given this is, too"
The didn't mention the suckage that was S6, the most critically criticized season in television...... Made Kim and the Cougar look like Shakespeare, season six did.......
I would love to see 24 return to greatness!
Tony better have several evil cougars ready to act on his whims. Ever since that cougar scared Jack's daughter back in season two, a showdown to end all showdowns has been brewing: Jack Bauer versus cougars in hand-to-paw deathmatch! The cougar species must pay!
If Zombie Tony is so evil because he is so traumatized by the loss of Michelle, and as a result in his madness he has created a Franken-Michelle. This would give my beloved Reiko an excuse to return!!!
How is it that EVERY GOD DAMN SEASON we have a leak?? It's a horrible plot device that has been ran in the ground by this show.
I know it in my heart
Supposedly, James Cromwell was going to be the father of the brat. So he would've been his father and his grandfather. They changed it when it leaked and people were grossed out.
...at the end of, what, Season 5??? my father-in-law - a church pastor - said he was going to put Jack Bauer on the church's prayer chain. He's Indian and they have a dry sense of humour. Nearly pissed myself laughing when he said he was going to do it. True story. MT
During Season 2 a friend of mine told me she caught herself praying for Kim, that the cougar wouldn't get her.
...then they should end this series while it's on top of its game.
don't suck!!! I really want this to be as good as the first few seasons!
COUGAR!
FUCK THIS SHIT.
October 29, 2008 5:44 PM CST
by Shermdawg
FUCK THIS SHIT.
Now an alternate story line might take the form of "evil" CTU. Intel agents VS Counter intel agents. The bad guys have this shit too, dontcha know
Both's writing is fucking horrible. The only thing 24 has over Heroes is a few Emmys, but honestly they don't ammount to shit anyways.
I haven't been a 24 fan because, due to the constraints the "one-day" format puts on the production (half the action takes place during the night), way too much of the show was just pretty bad dialogue inside CTU headquarters. By taking much of the show overseas in this new season they get around that problem thanks to the magic of time-zones, though I'm curious how they work in a 6 or 7-hour flight across the Atlantic Ocean (Ok, let's say 3 hours if they take a super-secret supersonic government passenger jet). I liked it when Chloe showed up, but I do hope that not too many other regulars pop up to lend Jack a hand. I like the idea of Jack Bauer operating without the ludicrously Knight Rider-esque support that the CTU gave him on an hourly basis ("Jack, according to the satellite your target is in the closet directly to you left, searching through the sock drawer, wearing Scooby-Do underwear!"). Grittier is better, IMHO.
Show me another show that not only takes place in real time but also has shots where there are 3-4 scenes happening at the same time via split screens. Do you have any idea how much footage that is and how much editing that entails? Keep in mind, it's a TV show. I don't see how they can keep the show under a feature film budget per episode.
Your presence is duly requested! :)
"The FBI has been compromised. There's a leak."
I'm with my man HoboCode on this one, fuc what episodes and seasons weren't as good as the others....You can't touch Bauer! So what one season (or two) wasn't as good as the others. If you enjoy the show, enjoy it! Don't whine when the plots don't go the way you planned, just watch for different character points, plots, emotions, behaviors, character dvlpmet, etc....or else go watch something else. I don't write T.V., so I would have no inclination to tell a writer how to do their job, we will bitch whatever they do. Just enjoy the ride.
I just watched the trailer... ARE YOU SERIOUS??!if you were a fan of the show before, how can you not be interested again? It appears action laced, old characters, good character actors(Tony Todd himself?!with Bauer?!). Call me old-school that way, but I stay with shows till the end, good or bad..its just a ride..
That trailer owned, I'm counting the days to redemption. (24 now! how fitting) Tony Todd is in because they needed a new Black Bauer since they iced Curtis last time. I wonder if we'll get the return of Aaron Pierce AKA Bald Bauer at some point
Wow, this almost looks like a trailer for a Vince Flynn book. Especially one of his Mitch Rapp books. I know that Flynn did some consulting for '24' in one of the earlier seasons. I think more and more, 24 is influenced by his books. Not a bad thing. Flynn is one of my favorite authors. It's interesting how the plots sometimes parallel each other. If you like a good spy thriller, I really suggest checking out Vince Flynn.
The new 24 trailer looks great. After a year off, I'm ready for some good Jack Bauer face time
It's been way too long. I like the character so I'm really interested to see how the movie goes without the time format. And another 24 eps after that!
Seriously with all the break ins, and moles in CTU, think my local convenience store is more secure.
because it was obvious that he wasn't actually dead (to the viewer, not to the characters). And since they're making him out to be the villain this early, I really, really hope that he's actually a good guy, because he deserves to become the main character after Jack's inevitable "surprise death" sometime in the future.
HOLY SHIT
Season 6 was an embarrasment (apart from the first few episodes with the nuke) so we need a good season 7 or in the words of Dragons Den, "I'm sorry, but I'm out!"
I read somewhere recently that the entire series is in the can, so no opportunity for the etch-a-sketch approach this year. Someone on this site once described "24" as the equivilent of a 5 year old telling a story which always rang true with me. Still...I'll be there with everyone else come January.
I like the glint in Jack's eyes when he says he's not with the FBI just along for the ride. I don't think I've ever seen Jack Bauer talk with that tone before, he's always been dour and sincere. Here he is both playful and menacing. Love it. The stunt work also looks feature film quality, the budget for this series must be through the roof.
It was "obvious" to the viewer that Tony was not dead? Didn't we see them zip the bodybag over his head?
How many times has someone faked their death or assumed dead? Oh and lets not forget... it's a TV show, not real, make believe, come on kids lets use our imagination! SOUL PATCH EVIL ZOMBIE UNDEAD DOPPLEGANGER CLONE TONY RULES!
kravmaguffin>> I'm happy to see Tony back. The guy was undoubtedly my favorite character on the show. I can only assume they are going to explain his faked death as being necessary to protect him from further assassination attempts and that perhaps Bauer was still considered a potential danger to him.
HOWEVER, at that point the motive for that is extremely iffy. Tony was no longer one of only four people who knew that Jack was alive, and Jack had been cleared of all charges (although Logan would later implicate him again). So what does keeping Tony "dead" accomplish, and why does it need to be kept from Jack, who was obviously distraught about it? That's just needlessly masochistic given what Jack has gone through. Additionally, I'm skeptical that - given the neurotoxin attack that had just taken place at CTU and the high body count - that orchestrating the fake death of Tony (a private citizen at that point) would have been on anyone's agenda. The much higher priority would have been taking account of the dead at CTU, cleaning up the facility, and attempting to capture Henderson. Add this to the closed bodybag and the fact that Tony's being alive lessens the dramatic impact of Bauer's exacting vengeance on Henderson (a minor point, but something I still consider), and I just don't like it as a plot point.
Finally, one of the things that I've must respected about the very cynical 24 universe is that death is uncompromising and unforgiving. The show's creators established this motif when they opted to kill Teri Bauer to end season one, and they have continued this tone and level of reality ever since with several powerful death scenes (Michelle, David Palmer, George Mason, Chappelle, Edgar, Curtis, etc.). As a result, fake deaths play like a narrative compromise to me.
That said, I'll give them a chance to convince me, and I'll go along for the ride even if it's ludicrous, because Tony Almeida rules.
"most" respected, that is.
The premise and the cut of this trailer was exciting but the look of it seemed cheaper than I expect from 24. Is anyone else getting that? It seemed more polished the lighting less harsh, the angles and movements less alive.
Because it's the same kind of cheap and lazy trick writing that Heroes relies upon. Coming from the 24 writing staff, you know that it wasn't a carefully plotted occurrence; they were winging it as usual and given the poor response to season 6, they needed to endear themselves to the fans again by bringing back one of the many beloved characters they stupidly killed, but dun-dun-dun, he's coming back as a villain!
I missed a whole year of the Bauer hour. Time to bring him back...
This is only applicable if he's a villain (which he appears to be). It renders worthless the very satisfying character arc that we saw him undergo: jailed traitor, washed up drunk, and finally the redeemed hero. I suppose that's a matter of personal taste whether or not you want Tony to remain a good guy, but it's one more thing to consider in the potential success or failure of Tony's return. One is forced to question: would Michelle - the woman he loves whose memory I can only assume drives his actions in season seven - want him to turn against his country? Given her choices, I think the answer is obviously no. If he's going bad, they better sell it.
...when an AICN 24 talkback thread was one of my most reliable sources for comedy gold. Sort of a low turnout on this one. I guess the interest is waning...
October 30, 2008 5:07 PM CST
by just pillow talk
She's so fucking hot, I'd believe a sith. Hell, where's those younglings at?
the last season left a bitter taste, the low turnout is to be expected.
That said, as I was one of the ones who didn't like the last season, I'm psyched for this year. I'm at the point where I don't even care how/why Tony is back. I just want a crazy ass season with Jack at the height of being Jack.
Seriously.
Thought it looked like every other season.
I hated season 6. The only thing that kept me watching aside from the hope for improvement and stubborn loyalty was being able to hit the 24 talkback and enjoy all the jokes.
Yes, just like Jack "died" and was carted off in front of witnesses. Last time I checked, zipping a body bag for effect does not instantly kill someone playing possum. It was entirely obvious to everyone around me - Tony's "death" from a simple needle to the chest was way too convenient, and what cinched the obviousness was that there was no silent countdown for him. I can see characters in the show believing him dead, but if you're having a hard time figuring out how he could still be alive and you're a real person watching the show, you've got issues with your thinking ability that you probably want to get checked out. Alzheimer's is nothing to fool around with!
my money is on Tony still being a "good guy" when it's all said and done. If the previews show him as a bad guy, we as viewers just have to know that there are going to be "twists." Jack was a bad-guy drug runner once, too, right? Not to mention a bunch of so-called "bad guys" who really turned out to be Jack Bauer doing what he had to do to save everyone's asses. If they keep Tony a villain, it had better be GREAT, or I'll be really annoyed at the poor, poor writing and the wasted potential.
O.k. I agree with your second post, in spite of your unnecessarily snide first post. Way to keep it civil. I mapped out pretty clearly why I have a problem with Tony's return from the dead, and I think my reasons are sound, particularly the unrealistic rushed window of time and adverse circumstances under which the decision to fake Tony's death would have had to have been made.
...proves absolutely nothing. There have been six uses of the silent clock, and only half of them correspond to an actual death.
Having Tony really be a good guy. I just hope this season they decide NOT to have it linked with the administration.