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MAD MAX’s George Miller To Team With Brad Pitt For Sci-Fi Space ODYSSEY??

Published at:  Oct 16, 2008 10:18:04 PM CDT

I am – Hercules!!


Brad Pitt wants George Miller (the "Mad Max" and "Babe" series and the upcoming "Justice League" movie) to direct him in an outer space version of Homer's ancient poem "The Odyssey," which dealt with one man's journey home following his adventures in the Trojan War.

Pitt recently starred as Achilles in "Troy," a tale of the Trojan War based on Homer's "The Illiad."

Stanley Kubrick made an sci-fi outer space version of "The Odyssey," set in the far-future year 2001, that MGM released in 1968.

The Coen Bros. created a Depression-era version of "The Odyssey" with 2000's "O Brother Where Art Thou."

Find all of Variety’s story on the matter here.



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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:13:53 PM CDT

    This is a story?

    by lordporkington

    Where's the site content? Just a link? Lazy!

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:14:25 PM CDT

    Cyclops in space?.....I might watch that.

    by flickapoo

  • Oct 16, 2008 10:14:31 PM CDT

    Pitt In Space

    by crow3711

    Could make up for him ditching the Fountain. This isn't a wholly terrible idea, could end up pretty sweet.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:16:23 PM CDT

    make it happen!!!!!

    by pipergates

  • Oct 16, 2008 10:19:56 PM CDT

    No Thanks

    by melvin_pelvis

    done to death story.
    don't care where the setting is

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:22:02 PM CDT

    Sounds like French 80's Cartoon Ulysses 31

    by john-locke

    I hope George Miller doesn't leave out little robot No-No

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:22:48 PM CDT

    Oh and Eric Bana for Mad Max

    by john-locke

    You know it makes sense

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:23:32 PM CDT

    Can we actually send Brad Pitt to space...

    by force_fed

    and leave him there?

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:24:22 PM CDT

    2001

    by charlie_allnut

    is an adaptation of the Odyssey? First time I have heard that. But this could be really really cool. Just make it a loose adaptation. Brad Pitt seems to be back on track after a slow spell...

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:32:56 PM CDT

    How in the Hell does 2001: A Space Odyssey have ANYTHING to do w

    by ogreishere

    Quick Answer
    IT DOESNT!!!

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:32:59 PM CDT

    Does he get to have sex with Catherine Zeta Jones

    by beetlegeuse

    and blow smoke rings around her naked body?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Oct 16, 2008 10:35:53 PM CDT

    I want a new Mad Max

    by bob of the shire

    Lots of leather, dust, and no CG. Make it happen.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:37:26 PM CDT

    HAL = CYCLOPS.

    by gilkuliehe

    See? Complete adaptation of THE ODYSSEY. KRULL had also a cyclops, so that was also an ODYSSEY adaptation. And Futurama is also an adaptation of ODYSSEY.
    Don't wanna be a prick here, but who cares what Brad Pitt wants? The fucker has it all! If Moriarty wants the Coens to do Superman, color me interested. Mr. Jolie wants something? Fuck off.
    Oh and George Miller rules.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:40:03 PM CDT

    What, no Happy Feet 2?

    by kid idioteque

    I think all filmmakers named "George" should be stopped. For the greater good.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:40:32 PM CDT

    Fuck this

    by kungfuhustler84

    when is a new version of Jason and the Argonauts coming out. That could be fucking incredible with all the technology available now.Although the Harryhausen version is still pretty fan-fucking-tastic

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:41:39 PM CDT

    HERC - BATTLESTAR GALACTICA RETURNS...

    by mr. nice gaius

    ...on January 16th.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:41:46 PM CDT

    Don't be an idioteque, Kid.

    by gilkuliehe

    HAPPY FEET was awesome. Don't agree? GFY.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:47:27 PM CDT

    does this make you happy Vern?

    by just pillow talk

  • Oct 16, 2008 10:50:23 PM CDT

    Well, if it has ninjas, it might be cool

    by melvin_pelvis

    Evil caucasian ninjas, raping the universe of resources and spiritual vitality

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:51:28 PM CDT

    samurai monkeys = better

    by just pillow talk

    Why won't you listen hollywood?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Oct 16, 2008 10:59:00 PM CDT

    Yeah, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre

    by melvin_pelvis

    is a true story

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  • Oct 16, 2008 10:59:38 PM CDT

    never heard 2001 "compared" with the Odyssey

    by rupee88

    very weird comment to throw in. But anyway, there are so few sci-fi movies these days that all are welcome

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:03:17 PM CDT

    FINALLY SOME ACTUALLY COOL NEWS

    by drturing

    That sounds FUCKING AWESOME.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Oct 16, 2008 11:03:54 PM CDT

    Mad Max 4 will happen

    by mygirleatsbannanas

    Its just a matter of time....i know

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:15:29 PM CDT

    2001 A Space "ODYSSEE"

    by charyoutree

    I don't remember any alien sluts luring him to his doom on a space rock? The Simpsons version maybe the best

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:17:56 PM CDT

    do Clash of the Titans instead

    by mrbong

    that would massage Brad's ego, people would want to see it regardless of who was the lead as well as because of who was in the lead, and if they set it in space the cult of Battle Beyond The Stars might see it as some sort of quasi-sequel.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:18:18 PM CDT

    Wait...

    by dagonet_

    2001 and Homer's Odyssey...

    ...not the same. Or similar. Or related.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:18:52 PM CDT

    Witches orf Eastwick is one of Miller's most

    by straighttohell

    underrated movies. Most of the time the movie gets credit because of Nicholson and the three women, but it's realyl Miller's show all the way. Nutty, hilarious, scary, amazing music, spectacular action sequences, great performances (Jack is unbelievable in this) and tremendous production design. The whole last part of the movie, once Jack leaves the house and the women start to fuck with him, is classic. Jack's monologue in the church about "women - a mistake, or did He DO IT TO US ON PURPOSE!!!" is hysterical. And that whole bit in the end where there is this insane-looking Rob Bottin monster outside the window is astonishing. Miller does not get enough credit for being such a diverse director. Lorenzo's Oil is as auster and tragic as Happy Feet fun and colorful. And of course, Road Warrior is still one of the greatest action films ever made. We've all seen the chase so many times now that we forget just how astonishing is was the first time we saw it. And Mad Max 2 is batshit crazy. Miller is incredibly inventive and has an amazing visual sense. I think that this is the kind of a project that he is tailor-made for. Remember that he was going to direct Contact before Jodie Foster had him hand over the film to Zemeckis. So, it would be very cool to see what he can do with outer space.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:21:41 PM CDT

    Stepping on Ridley Scott's toes?

    by ribbons

    Isn't "The Forever War" basically an outer space version of The Odyssey? That's what Scott said, and that's how the synopsis makes it sound.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:28:31 PM CDT

    StraightToHell

    by gilkuliehe

    There isn't a sylable of lies in what you said. Although I must add the segment Miller did for the TWILIGHT ZONE MOVIE in his impressive legacy of excellence. The music, photography, nightmarish angles, editing and performances in that thing belong all in cinema heaven. A genuine master. The point is: Amen, friend. Amen.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:29:27 PM CDT

    This was called ULYSSES 31 back in the day

    by gay jesus christ

    it was an awesome japan-france anime collaboration.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:34:01 PM CDT

    Another quality report from the dime-store jounalist, Herc.

    by spacker dave

    Justice League still happening?!? 2001 based on Homer's The Odyssey?!? Try sticking to TV, buddy.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:35:16 PM CDT

    They should team up with

    by melvin_pelvis

    Mel Gibson and Quentin Tarantino and make The Jesus Chainsaw Massacre Part II: Inglourious Judas

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:39:06 PM CDT

    Herc's really not that off with the comparison.

    by gotilk

    Quit pretending there's no similarities. A direct adaptation? I don't think he was suggesting that. Version? Yeah, kinda.

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  • Oct 16, 2008 11:58:39 PM CDT

    Screw this, I want to see...

    by mcvamp

    Zapp Brannigan's 3001: A Sexy Velour Space Trip Thing--In Space. And I'd REALLY rather see Sean Bean follow up Troy in a real adaptation of THE ODYSSEY with lots of boobs and a wonderful father-son bonding experience for a climax (you know, where Ulysses and son lock in about 20 freeloaders looking to nail his wife and go apeshit with stabby goodness.)

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:02:31 AM CDT

    No Thankyou. I want George to do Green Lantern.

    by hallmitchell

  • Oct 17, 2008 12:08:30 AM CDT

    Re: Witches of Eastwick.

    by gilkuliehe

    I just read on the IMDB that BILL MURRAY was supposed to play the Nicholson character. Can you imagine a cooler movie? I can't.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:13:20 AM CDT

    Only a douchebag

    by iamzardoz

    would try to connect Kubrick's 2001 to Homer's Odyssey

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:20:32 AM CDT

    MCVamp

    by melvin_pelvis

    Suddenly, I want to see that too.
    Both of them.
    Deep down, like an ache, that aches down deep, in the depths of acheydom.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:25:19 AM CDT

    WTFuck. Just give us a period piece.

    by gungan slayer

    Honestly, this is just going to end up being some bloated retarded sci-fi shit. Just set it during ancient Greece. Plain and simple. And make it a sequel to "Troy" and have Sean Bean play Odysseus again. There. Problem solved.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:31:54 AM CDT

    Then I am that other douchebag.

    by gotilk

    Of course it's not a direct adaptation, but the connection is irrefutable. I mean, it's not like Homer's Odyssey was the SECOND of it's kind and the film IS called 2001 a space "Odyssey". The siren call of the monolith, the long Journey. The new worlds, be they inner or outer. So yeah. I, douchebag.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:40:14 AM CDT

    Don't forget the cyclops, gotilk.

    by gilkuliehe

    HAL, one eye, hello?

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:45:57 AM CDT

    pillow talk

    by vern

    Yes it makes me happy, just give George Miller a movie. I think he would knock the super hero movie out of the park (and note that the Variety article says he's still doing that) but since nerds can't appreciate the gift they've been given doesn't mean the rest of the world should sit around not having George Miller movies while he waits for the studio to get the balls to pull the trigger. The important thing is that he does one live action studio movie and then moves on to Mad Max 4.
    Did you see the end of the article about the movies Brad Pitt has? He's working with the Coen Brothers, David Fincher, Terence Malick, Quentin Tarantino and then George Miller IN A ROW. How the fuck did Brad Pitt become that guy? I guess hanging out with George Clooney opens doors.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:46:46 AM CDT

    Spaceships that go BOOM... are cool.

    by stereotypical evil archer

    Just sayin'.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:50:58 AM CDT

    George Miller goes BOOM... he's cool.

    by stereotypical evil archer

    Pitt was best as Floyd in True Romance; or that crazy guy in 12 Monkeys. Yeah man, 12 Monkeys! FIGHT CLUB! SNATCH! That's how he got to work with the greats.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:59:33 AM CDT

    Gilkuliehe!! Aha!

    by gotilk

    I didn't even consider that. And it's so obvious.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:05:24 AM CDT

    Space Cruiser Yamato (Star Blazers) Is The Oddyssey Done Right!!

    by media messiah

    I never really liked the Oddyssey as it is rather plain...although, now that I think about it, Space Cruiser Yamato(Star Blazers) is the story of The Oddyssey, and it was brilliant the way the Japanese executed it. Star Wars even ripped Yamato (Star Blazers) off in terms of its execution, style and look. Yamato pre-dates Star Wars by years, so let's not get into that discussion as to what came first because I always win!!! Look it up if you don't believe me!!! That said, I agree with Mr. Bong, The Clash Of The Titans, has a really nice mythical story, one that could easily be translated into a science fiction film with a nice bite to it!!!

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:26:51 AM CDT

    Hey Vern -

    by subtlety

    How'd Brad Pitt end up with those parts in movies by Coen Brothers, David Fincher, Terence Malick, Quentin Tarantino and then George Miller? Simple, Seagal turned em all down!
    I kid, I kid! You the man.
    and "2001" is based on "The Odyssey" about as much as "Spider-Man" is based on the New Testament. Sheesh.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:36:10 AM CDT

    StraightToHell

    by oisin5199

    Road Warrior IS Mad Max 2. I think you meant Mad Max 3.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:39:33 AM CDT

    Miller already made a futuristic Iliad...

    by some dude

    Road Warrior.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:44:13 AM CDT

    ULYSSES 31 fucking rocked!!

    by bradmajors

    I didn't miss a single episode when I was a child. I saw it again a few years back and it actually aged pretty well! And this movie sounds indeed pretty much like it.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:47:32 AM CDT

    please please be Ulysses 31!

    by reekos_roughnecks

    greatest cartoon series ever

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:54:21 AM CDT

    I thought I must have missed something

    by happyfat73

    2001 an adaptation of The Odyssey? Crikey... I know 2001 is paced like a glacier, but I couldn't have fallen asleep and missed that much subtext could I? I don't think so.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:59:27 AM CDT

    Dude

    by phool2056

    "2001: A Space Odyssey" as a version of Homer's "Odyssey?" That just sounds ridiculous. I mean, C'mon Herc, you really think they have a level of similarity beyond "they're both journeys," which is like two thirds of movies?

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:59:45 AM CDT

    Ulysses 31

    by atropos

    ...I have such fond memories of this show the theme tune is my ringtone. It would indeed make a kick-ass meatspace movie.

    ...and I have to agree with what others are saying - Unless you go waaaay out there in trying to make connections, "2001 - a Space Odyssey" has very little to do with Homer's "The Odyssey".
    However, it has points of reference and alludes to it knowingly. I wouldn't call it a "version" in the same way "O Brother..." was though.

    In Herc's defense, a film student would probably get a right bollocking if they didn't spot the connections, and I'm sure there is both a treatise on the matter and exam questions along the lines of "In what ways does "2001" allude to Homer's poem..." so please, stop calling Herc a retard.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:59:46 AM CDT

    Ulysses 31 remake?

    by gorgomel

    it would be cool. But please, use the original amazing soundtrack :

    tinyurl.com/5u8znx

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  • Oct 17, 2008 2:17:01 AM CDT

    Brad Pitt - wandering around Dublin? Huh?

    by jackrabbitslim

    um ... ooops ... wrong Ulysees

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  • Oct 17, 2008 2:23:04 AM CDT

    Brad Pitt gets crucified for ditching dull Fountain

    by jackrabbitslim

    But all the Aronofsky fans forgive the auteur for taking the cash in the guise of a RoboCop remake. Hy-po-crites.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 2:44:06 AM CDT

    Sounds awesome

    by o_goncho

    Probably never happen. Also, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK you, Crom.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 2:51:45 AM CDT

    Ulysses,Ulys-ee-eese......

    by brody77

    Fuck, what a great cartoon. Apart from the daft robot.
    Father, oh father!
    You are alive...my son.
    I'm off to watch the dvd!

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  • Oct 17, 2008 3:04:42 AM CDT

    Happyfat73

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You fell asleep through just about the greatest movie ever made. Congratulations.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 4:12:21 AM CDT

    ahhh... Ulysses 31... oh yeah, and Star Blazers...

    by the power of greyskull

    the memories...
    anyhow, I would see this film, even if I heard it was a rotten pile of skinkin shit by critics whose opinions I value - just coz it's George Miller
    It's George Fucking Miller!
    returning to SciFi!

    think of his name... when you look... at the NIGHT SKY...

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  • Oct 17, 2008 4:28:39 AM CDT

    2001 has nothing at all to do with Homer

    by lost jarv

    Some of you (and you too herc) are really, really stupid.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 4:30:37 AM CDT

    stupid idea

    by geraldbeans

    Odyssey doesn't translate well. all those movies sucked. Art Though was sort of interesting, but only b/c of the Coens' directing style. the story was shit.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 5:09:41 AM CDT

    'Hercules' has no idea about 'The Odyssey'

    by player 1

    Anyone see the irony in that? How about AICN employ people with educations rather than people who are googlexperts.
    "Stanley Kubrick made an sci-fi outer space version of "The Odyssey," set in the far-future year 2001, that MGM released in 1968. "
    LOL. lern2ancientgreekmythology. Its not that hard kkthxbaibai

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  • Oct 17, 2008 5:36:09 AM CDT

    I may be a stupid, uneducated asshole douchebag..

    by gotilk

    But 2001 was still based loosely on Homer. Based may be a strong word, sure. But the similarities are there and there's that whole title thing, too. Get over it and move along, you'll feel better in a matter of months about not noticing/realizing/admitting/finally getting it.

    Your resident stupid, uneducated asshole douchebag.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 6:21:28 AM CDT

    Dammit...Fury Road next for Miller with Bana

    by killakane

    As much as the notion of a futuristic take on Homer's Odyssey is interesting it ain't half as potentially awesome as Reverso's Fury Road script, Miller needs to to this next the demand is most definitely there.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 6:21:57 AM CDT

    They will get sued by the makers of Ulysses 31

    by mr nicholas

    Why don't they just do that movie instead?

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  • Oct 17, 2008 6:45:00 AM CDT

    Vern

    by just pillow talk

    If Georgie is all rearing to go, I would much prefer he do movies like this or Mad Max 4 than a superhero movie. Since he is still doing that superhero movie, I certainly hope he has some batshit crazy stuff going down in there. I want to see some nasty rumbles going down that, super style.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 7:01:25 AM CDT

    Ulysses 31 is awesome

    by famouseccles

  • Oct 17, 2008 7:13:40 AM CDT

    2001 is based on the Odyssey now?

    by raw_bean

    When did that happen?Clearly Herc knows nothing about either '2001: A Space Odyssey', OR knows nothing about Homer's 'Odyssey', OR both. I wonder which it is.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 7:17:06 AM CDT

    Uh... Kubrick's 2001 is NOT a sci-fi version of The Odissey

    by ricarleite

    It merely has "A Space Odissey" on it's title. Kubrick said it was a space version of "How the West was won" with some views of the future and evolution of humanity. I don't remember Odissey's Homer staying in a hotel room until he grows old and dies. Hercules, that was kind of stupid.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 7:24:55 AM CDT

    Let's be clear -

    by raw_bean

    You can make odd, coincidental connections based on little bits from 2001 and the Odyssey, but they're completely different stories. The Odyssey is the tale of a man's struggle to return home to his wife after fighting a war on foreign soil, not one element of which 2001 uses. I think Kubrick and Clarke were just using the word 'Odyssey' for the secondary meaning it has taken on, which dictionary.com gives as: a long series of wanderings or adventures, esp. when filled with notable experiences, hardships, etc.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 7:46:03 AM CDT

    gotik

    by lost jarv

    The only thing correct about your post was the title. Be happy that you're not completely wrong.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 8:09:49 AM CDT

    Sounds great if it happnes

    by dr sauch

  • Oct 17, 2008 8:26:10 AM CDT

    Not only Homer's Odyssey...

    by octaveaeon

    ...but Friedrich Nietzsche's "Also sprach Zarathustra" and ofcourse Arthur C. Clarke's book are the most obvious sources that serve to shape the form and content of the movie. You can't just isolate one of them and still see what Kubrick was up to. That said, I also think that understanding the ritual role of ancient mystery religions (Eleusinian Mysteries) would also help shed light on the pedagogical role of Homer's tale in ancient Greek culture. This in turn makes more explicit the parallels with Nietzsche's work (which was strongly shaped by ancient Greek culture; see for example 'The Birth of Tragedy,' his first book), and his hope for a cultural renewal of Europe (see his concept of "eternal recurrence"). I think that this also helps shed light on Kubrick's own intentions with his movies, but even more so with the mediums which we rely upon as both vessels of (historical) knowledge (which is why I think of him as the purest expression of postmodern art). I think that Kubrick's work is the logical next step after Joyce's Ulysses, and the ultimate failure of his artistic project in the wake of WWII.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 9:03:10 AM CDT

    George and the Witches

    by irritable

    Dr George had major grief working with idiot '80s cheesemeister superproducers Guber and Peters on Witches of Eastwick.
    Also had a major clash with Cher (who somehow was regarded as a Big Star "actress" back in 1987). For details of her Raw Hatred of Dr G, check her erudite "autobiography".
    In disgust, Dr G returned to Sydney determined never again to put his fate in the hands of Hollywood playas.
    So take this tiny gobbet of news with a grain of salt. Unless George gets total artistic control and a significant financial stake in the project, it's not happening.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 9:18:06 AM CDT

    Sounds like a great idea

    by jor-el23

    If they actually adapt The Odyssey for space travel. B/c 2001 is not The Odyssey, other than Hal being a cyclops. And really O'Brother isn't either. While I love O'Brother I also know that the Coen Bros. had never read The Odyssey so it's basically like they just took the Cliffs Notes and made a movie in set in the Depression-Era South.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 9:18:47 AM CDT

    I like The Odyssey. I like space.

    by rbatty024

    It seems like a good combination.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 9:26:53 AM CDT

    Now look what you've done Gotilk

    by irritable

    Lost Jarv has had to interrupt fucking astronaut duties investigating the nympho planet BALLSACK in the outer rim of the milky way to explain why Homer's Odyssey and 2001 share no metaphors.
    Shame on you for impeding important work.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 9:45:10 AM CDT

    Prediction: Zack Snyder fo be offered JUSTICE LEAGUE

    by jdanielp

    I'd nearly put money on it, despite a release no sooner than 2012.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 9:49:58 AM CDT

    Abes Odyssey

    by filmfunk

    sound A'right i guess so...

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  • Oct 17, 2008 10:35:40 AM CDT

    Alright, I admit I'm wrong.

    by gotilk

    As a matter of fact, once The Odyssey is translated into another language, it's not even the Odyssey anymore. And all those so-called "Cinderella stories" aren't about Cinderella at all. And vampire films are not even loosely based on anything with Bram Stoker's name on it. Epics of a "Biblical Scale" have NOTHING to do with the Bible and when people say "eat my nuts", what they really mean is "eat my nuts", not suck my balls. Like actual nuts.

    Aspergers, folks. It's more prevalent than you think it is. Look into it. There's treatment now. Hope is in the air.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 10:45:27 AM CDT

    "A Space Odyssey" vs. "THE Odyssey... in Space!"

    by deathshrike

    It worries me that my beloved Herc could say something so cinematically illiterate as 2001 was an adaptation of The Odyssey.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 10:51:21 AM CDT

    Honda made a minivan version of "The Odyssey" in 1999

    by greatwhitenoise

    C'mon, 'Hercules'. You'd expect a guy with your handle to have a better grip on Greek literature than that. Trying to parallel Homer and Arthur C. Clarke is pretty frickin' weak.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 10:52:37 AM CDT

    David Bowie made a pop-opera song of "The Odyssey" in the '70s

    by greatwhitenoise

    Oh, jeez, wait, that was "Oddity". And it was also in space. Never mind.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 10:53:57 AM CDT

    The WB made a teen-drama version of "The Odyssey" in 2003

    by greatwhitenoise

    Oh, damn, that was "The O.C." There I go again.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 11:20:34 AM CDT

    Vern

    by spawnofachilles

    Brad Pitt became that guy because he carefully chooses the directors he works with and the roles he's in and he has that freedom because he's Brad Fucking Pitt, not to mention he's a good actor...okay you can go back to watching death kill 8 now

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  • Oct 17, 2008 11:21:56 AM CDT

    Vern

    by orcus

  • Oct 17, 2008 11:40:02 AM CDT

    Wasn't Harrison Ford attacked to this Years Ago?

    by dkt

    I seem to remember an AICN report on it from waaaaaaaay back. Like 10 years.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 11:40:23 AM CDT

    Eh, I meant attached, not attacked

    by dkt

  • Oct 17, 2008 11:41:15 AM CDT

    Not Seeing the 2001 Comparison

    by dkt

  • Oct 17, 2008 11:54:01 AM CDT

    Everyone look up.

    by gotilk

    Did you feel that?

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:19:03 PM CDT

    indiana jones was raped

    by the_one_man_gang

    and you just stood there

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  • Sharing a word in the title is not the same things as being related, and certainly not the same as an adaptation. Herc, unless you can cite some obscure interview with Kubrik or Clarke that suggests they were even THINKING about Homer's Odyssey, that's a kind of insane thing to claim. Perhaps completely hypocritically, I'd also like to suggest that if "O Brother" is based on the Odyssey (as I know the Coens have said) their "The Man Who Wasn't There" is based on Camus' "The Stranger." It's actually a much closer parallel than "O Brother" is to "The Odyssey" although I suppose it could be a coincidence.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:26:08 PM CDT

    Spawn

    by vern

    I wasn't attacking Brad Pitt, I think he's usually pretty good. He just used to have a reputation as a not very smart pretty boy and not a very good actor. He was more known for being on the cover of People magazine than for being a serious actor and was made fun of in that movie LIVING IN OBLIVION. I guess it's been forever now since he started surprising people in movies like TWELVE MONKEYS and FIGHT CLUB, but that lineup of directors all in a row is still pretty impressive. That's all.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 12:40:48 PM CDT

    the real victim of the Justice League thing

    by vern

    Okay, especially with DARK KNIGHT being pretty much the best comic strip movie ever made, I must accept that nerds can't wrap their head around there being two movies within four or five years of each other with two totally different versions of Batman in them. I don't really understand why that's such a huge issue but I guess it is and that's probaly why Justice League is sitting around not being made.
    But I just want to note that I feel sorry for that poor bastard who was cast as Batman. I agree that they should've gone for an older actor, but on the other hand the dude is 6'6", a trained magician, collects knives and is the grandson of some billionaire philanthropist. He pretty much is Batman, is what I figure George Miller was thinking. Maybe he would've been good? Anyway, good or bad for the role OF COURSE the dude is gonna accept it. Like YOU weiners would've said "No, I as an unknown actor do not accept the role of a lifetime because Christian Bale." All he does is take a role that nobody could turn down and for that he gets pulverized by nerds on the internet who are mad at him for not being Christian Bale so they make fun of his name like playground bullies. I read this article where he talked about how the actors went to Australia and trained every day so hard they puked, and that he actually tried on the Batman costume made by Weta and saw himself in the mirror. He came that close but the movie will probaly never happen, and even if it does he will have to travel around the world doing interviews about why he is not Christian Bale and whether or not he's ashamed of himself for what he's done. I just feel sorry for that dude.
    Anyway, if it's the space movie George Miller's doing let's see it, no waiting around forever please. Unless we're too sensitive to deal with more than one interpretation of that story.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:03:29 PM CDT

    of course, there's a relationship between the Odyssey...

    by kisskissbangbang

    ...& 2001; why do you think Dave's name is _Bowman_? As for interviews, consult Jerome Agel's _The Making of 2001_ for Clarke saying the comparison was very much on his mind. Originally, he says, all the characters on the discovery, including those in suspended animation, made it(see _The Lost Worlds of 2001_ by Clarke); but he eventually realized that it worked best if Bowman, like Odysseus, was sole survivor. Now, go argue with the shade of Sir Arthur and tell _him_ there's no connection. It's thematic more than in plot, but it's there. Hail Golick.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:06:47 PM CDT

    Sorry, gotilk...

    by kisskissbangbang

    typoed your name there. Bygones.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 1:38:23 PM CDT

    I've seen 2001 about 2001 times.

    by hercules

    1) Part of earning my degree in English literature involved reading and analyzing Homer's "The Odyssey." I've also read every book and article on Kubrick and on the movie.

    2) Homer didn't have a lot of passages in his poem about the Discovery or Dr. Heywood Floyd or monoliths. Clever of you to notice.

    3) "2001" was a very loose adaptation of "The Odyssey." One suspects Brad Pitt's sci-fi space picture may be as well. I could be wrong.

    4) What kisskissbangbang said.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 2:08:00 PM CDT

    comic strip movie?

    by badmrwonka

    c'mon Vern...it ain't Garfield the Movie...

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  • Oct 17, 2008 2:58:59 PM CDT

    I'd rather see 2061 get made.

    by royston lodge

    Nuff said.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 3:35:57 PM CDT

    DJ Cotrona

    by the brains

    I hardly knew ye.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 3:45:21 PM CDT

    2001 was a loose adaptation of The Sentinel

    by player 1

    Please illustrate some parallels with Homer's Odyssey. Mr Clarke mentioned it was on his mind, but the story was an evolution of an original short story
    'The Sentinel'. The story bears little parallel, apart from a very vague journey theme. The episodic story style, Odysseus' cunning, the wrath of jealous gods, and the eventual happy reunion with the family in Ithaca have little - if anything - to do with the final movie, 2001 - A Space Odyssey. Get your facts right, then write.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 3:45:41 PM CDT

    Hmm. (Herc/ KissKiss)

    by subtlety

    I'll be damned. I havn't read the Jerome Angel Book... guess I'll have to now. Well, not the first time I've been mistaken; my apologies to Herc and the few other supporters here. Still, I don't know if it qualifies as an adaptation so much as a very generalized inspiration. After all, there really is almost nothing other than the name to connect the two stories. Hal being a cyclops is really reaching (was R2-D2 a cyclops too?) ... the space odyssey has no real stops, they're not really even taking a journey to similar ends, unless "home" is defined in a sort of metaphoric way. I read Clarke's commentary in "Lost Worlds..." as more of an indication that he considered "The Odyssey" sort of an inspiration and template for all journey stories, but I could be wrong. I'll read the book. But seriously, if he ever imagined 2001 as an adaptation of Homer, it sure didn't show up on the screen in any way I can figure.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 4:04:09 PM CDT

    Jolie's Lips

    by the brains

    Angelina is holding Pax and they're standing at the shoreline, waving.

    "Poppa!"

    The End.

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  • Oct 17, 2008 4:04:46 PM CDT

    MEANWHILE I FUCKING DIREST STARS MY DESTINATION

    by proman1984

  • Oct 17, 2008 4:05:33 PM CDT

    But Herc's quote is: " space VERSION of "The Odyssey," "

    by ricarleite

    And now it'd changed to "was a very loose adaptation". Very loose adaptation? How loose? Call me stupid if you desire, but 2001 has as much to do with The Odissey as My Dinner with Andre does, if you see it this way. If you go down the "inspired" and "has some motiffs" route, you'll find out a great majority of the films out there are based on Greek mythology and religious writtings in some way - that's where modern narrative came from.

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  • make a silent film around Pitt and Gorillas? About eight or nine years ago that had to do w/ Odyssey as well somehow?

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  • Oct 17, 2008 6:11:15 PM CDT

    Alright. Eric Bana in Mad Max 4 and I mean RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

    by stuntcock mike

    Enough of this rubbish already.

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  • Goddamn, that was a great cartoon. Up there with "Mysterious Cities of Gold" which would also make a great movie. Flying golden condors and a GREAT theme song too. Casting choices for Estaban?

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  • Oct 17, 2008 9:52:12 PM CDT

    ricarleite...

    by mcvamp

    MY DINNER WITH ANDRE is also an adaptation of THE ODYSSEY. Derrrp!

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  • Oct 17, 2008 10:12:00 PM CDT

    Kisskiss, that book is really good, but as I recall

    by half vader

    Angel is one of the contributors, not the sole author? And it's one of a series edited by Scorsese? I don't know where my copy is.

    The other thing I remember is that at the start of the book, in an interview FROM 1968, he talks about the idea of having a real husband and wife acting team doing what would turn out decades later to be Eyes Wide Shut.

    You can't say the guy didn't let things gestate...

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  • Oct 17, 2008 10:19:37 PM CDT

    Oh and yeah Witches of Eastwick is George Effin Miller's

    by half vader

    least favourite. Lorenzo'z Oil his most favourite, for obvious reasons.

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  • Oct 18, 2008 11:43:48 AM CDT

    Half Vader, Player & Subtlety

    by kisskissbangbang

    While I stand by what I said, the argument seems to hinge on the word "version" or "adaptation", neither of which I'd use. I used the term "relationship" which, in its vagueness, is applicable. Of course, everything is related to everything else in some way, but both Clarke & Kubrick are on record as seeing the Odyssey as some sort of influence on them during 2001's making. For the record, some quotes: Clarke from Agel's book,page 6:"We set out with the deliberate intention of creating a myth. The Odyssean parallel was in our minds from the beginning, long before the film's title was chosen." Kubrick from page 25 (from a New Yorker profile when it was called "Journey Beyond The Stars":"About the best [term for film]we've been able to come up with is a space oodyssey--comparable in some ways to the Homeric _Odyssey_," said Mr.K. "It occurred to us that for the Greeks the vast stretches of the sea must have had the same sort of mystery and remoteness that space has for our generation, and that the far-flung islands Homer's wonderful caracters visited were no less remote to them than the planets our spacemen will soon be landing on are to us. _Journey_ also shares with the Odyssey a concern for wandering, exploration, and adventure." Lost Worlds of 2001, page 38,from Clarke's diary: "October 15. Stan has decided to kill off _all_ the crew of the _Discovery_ and leave Bowman only. Drastic, but it seems right. After all, Odysseus was the sole survivor..." There's also some comparison at the end of Lost Worlds of 2001's ending with that of the Odyssey. As I said, it's a looose connection, but it's Kubrick & Clarke's connection, not something I'm reading into it. As Bowman's name indicates, it's more allusive than an adaptation, but Homer was definitely on their minds.

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  • Oct 18, 2008 1:04:29 PM CDT

    KissKiss

    by subtlety

    yeah, that sounds about right. Not a version or adaptation, but a general understanding of tone and purpose, which, in all fairness, probably applies to a lot of fiction written after Homer. I'm glad to know it was something they actually thought about explicitly, though. Thanks for the info!

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  • Oct 18, 2008 7:52:28 PM CDT

    wow

    by gotilk

  • Oct 18, 2008 11:49:28 PM CDT

    hilarious

    by staldo

    I was about to go into conniptions over the whole Stanley Kubrick thing because I thought you were quoting Variety and some retard intern was actually allowed to write that 2001:ASO was a sci-fi version of Homer's Odyssey. Nice bait.

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  • Oct 19, 2008 10:39:29 AM CDT

    addendum

    by staldo

    If I came off like a jerk, let me explain-I always thought of 2001 being titled space odyssey as similar to Frankenstein being also titled A modern Prometheus-it's obviously not a retelling of the myth, it simply evokes the spirit of that ancient story. in 2001 people travel large distances and come in contact with powers greater than themselves, in Frankenstein man gets knowledge and power he wasn't supposed to have. I accept the judgement of the people that run this site that 2001 is indeed a loose adaptation, however. No offense intended.

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  • Oct 20, 2008 6:49:43 AM CDT

    The Godfather

    by die_hardest

    is based on The Iliad. And by "based on" i mean "completely unrelated to."

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  • Oct 20, 2008 6:54:11 AM CDT

    Western

    by die_hardest

    A friend of mine and I had envisioned making a Western based on Homer's epic. We even got far enough to outlining the draft of a screenplay. Not sure why we never followed through on it. Might still happen in the future. Sort of a marriage of The Odyssey and The Searchers.

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