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The Best Halloween Movie You Won't See This Month: TRICK R TREAT!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... It is outrageous that Warner Brothers never got it together to release a FINISHED film - that even a Weinstein could open in October - that has an amazing one sheet ready for release - and trailers that are screaming to be cut. The friggin' title is the catch phrase - and the line, "THIS HALLOWEEN - WILL YOU TRICK R TREAT?" "WHY SAW, WHEN YOU CAN TRICK R TREAT?" Horror fans, when they see the film, dig the hell out of it. And SIDESHOW is already selling the toys, Mask companies have the costumes and masks... WHY DO THEATERS NOT HAVE THIS MOVIE? The market is STARVING for Horror, the sad thing is... This film would make a mint on its investment in the month of Halloween, due to the title and the visage of the main evil tyke thing. Well... If we're going to see it, I suppose we'll have to wait till October 2009 now. Release willing! You should also check this review out!
I just got out of a screening of Mike Dougherty's film "Trick R Treat", presented by Fangoria, and the director asked us to try and hype the film up and get the word out so that maybe Warner Brothers would think about releasing it wide. Now I absolutely loved the film, but I can see how they would have trouble advertising for it - it really jumped back and forth between dark, dark, dark, dark, comedy and gory, bloody, creepy horror. It was a fantastic independent horror film with a tone similar to that of Creepshow or Tales From the Crypt. It easily combined elements of black comedy and fantasy, but kept the gore and creep factors there for the horror fans. Plotwise, the movie was an anthology - it followed four groups of people in a small Ohio town on Halloween night. You had Anna Paquin's character Laurie, the nerdy virgin, and her slutty sister trying to get to a party somewhere in the woods. I don't want to spoil it, but I loved the twist in that plot line! There was another plotline about 4 kids and how they torture the "outcast" girl. The third plotline followed Dylan Baker's character, who was a homocidal principal. The last 15 to 20 minutes focused on Brian Cox's character - the creepy old man that hates Halloween because of a secret in his past. The film jumped back and forth chronologically, but it was very smart and engaging and easily kept my attention even thought I had to stand the entire time because they overbooked the theater. The Dylan Baker scenes were pretty hilarious and got a lot of laughs. He played it really over the top, without overselling it. And that creepy kid/monster with the burlap sack on it's head skeeved me right the hell out! On a side note, James Marsden was there, and I stood next to him the whole time, which was pretty cool, him being Cyclops and all. Also, when asked what he was currently working on, Mike Dougherty said he was working on a series for Warner Bros called "Bitches" and it's about 4 female werewolves in New York City. Brilliant! Like Sex and the City, but good. If you post this, could you please print my name as Dr. Oscar McPony
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I had no idea what was going on with it! Good timing there guys. And yeah...the posters that have been coming out are completely cool. The kid is awesome looking.
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pissed off someone at Warner Bros for them to completely throw out a 12 Million+ film. Ouch.
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i wait in agony!!!!
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So this movie should get a wide release.
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and I loved it, and was expecting it to be released that same year. It's a shame it hasnt yet though.
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This was the last film of BNAT 9, and I've been telling people ever since that "next Halloween, there's a really sweet movie you gotta check out!" Folks have been stoked to see this. I've been looking forward to seeing it again too. It's a terrific franchise just waiting to get started and Mike Dougherty poured his heart into it. And it's positively corporate INSANITY to not release it already.
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those fuckers.
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I've been hearing about this movie for 2 years now, can't belive it's still not been released
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Remember it from BNAT last year. Loved it, totally.
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Funny because it's true.
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Everyone I know asks about "that trailer in front of the 300 DVD" and I have to inform them that somewhere there is a group of idiots that don't think we want to see it.
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suits at WB in the nutz. <p> this is pure ass that T'R'T still hasn't been released. <p> and fuck saw7 or whatever that pos is up to. see [REC] or quarantine instead.
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with Gene Simmons, and that kid from Family Ties.
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you had me till "bitches"
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Isn't that a day when studios like to dump a horror flick on us lately ?
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I'm sure it's all related back to Superman Returns. Did some studio executive find out that Dougherty was spending all his time on the Trick R Treat film instead of SR and decided to punish him? Or did he badmouth some suit after SR didn't do a Dark Knight? Maybe he signed a contract that demanded a theatrical release and refused to back down when they wanted to go direct to dvd with it? Any rumours?
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Class!!
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Something twisted and gay has gone down here folks. I'd be very surprised even someone in Warner Bros has a grudge against Dougherty - maybe Dougherty refused to blow him at a part, who know - point is people are asking a lot of questions about this movie and are DEMANDING answers. It doesn't help that Dougherty hasn't said much at all, but it looks like something 'personal' is behind all this. Someone needs to get this shit sorted as this film should have been released AGES ago - and should have been on most people's DVD / Blu Ray shelves by now. Seriously, WARNER BROS AND DOUGHERTY, BURY THE HATCHET AND RELESE THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I saw this book this weekend at Barnes & Noble, prominently displayed: http://www.amazon.com/Trick-Treat-Mayhem-Mystery-Mischief/dp/1933784512/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223988040&sr=8-2 It made me think we were finally getting the movie. Seriously WB, WTF? I'm not sure I've ever seen a lavish making-of book for a movie that has no release date. But the book was very cool and based on the screen shots and concept drawing looks freaking awesome.
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R L Stine should sue!
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Oct. 14, 2008, 8:21 a.m. CST
The Remake of Prom Night and Saw5 make it to Theatres but Not TR
by Ines5
Yet The Film-Makers of TRICK R TREAT. Obviously Tried to Create a High QUALITY Horror Motion Picture. and it goes Direct to DVD. Where is the JUSTICE?!?!?!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUqsXvBAqRY
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It was one of the best movies of BNAT, and I've been hoping to watch it again with my horror fan friends! Dammit!
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And send a Message to Hollywood that WE want Artistic and Impressive Horror Films Again!!!
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In case any movie execs make it to the talksbacks, I've been dying to see this movie since I heard about it over a year ago, and was pissed I couldn't make it to this special screening (sold out - that's how high the interest is). People LOVE seeing scary movies in October, and you're sitting on a gold mine.
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Its produced by Warner Brothers.That being said THERE IDIOTS.This looks like Creepshow Meets The Nightmare Before Christmas and now that SAW is officialy DEAD with part 5,I mean come on this is a no brainer Warners needs to release this,it looks great.
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This Halloween was wide open for the taking. The holiday itself is on a Friday, and this actually looks good. They could have opened small last week and then when it got huge per screen money, gone wide each following week. Or, just sit on it.
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There has to be a reason. Who did he piss off? This article is extremely frustrating. Someone should just get this damn movie on a torrent so people can see it already.
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Why isn't it out? I thought it was going to come out this Halloween, after all, isn't that why it was pushed back? It wouldn't be a hard sell. Comedy and Gore have come together a bunch of times. Just look at Shaun of the Dead for christ's sake!
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and it absolutely killed. Sure the crowd is loaded, but my friends and I are objective enough to know that outside of that, this is simply a good film. Quarantine opens at 15 million then there's room for this. Is WB really not releasing the movie because they can't market it? Maybe they should fire their marketing department for incompetence.
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I'd buy a ticket
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I heard about this movie allllooonggg time ago, and have been wanting to see it. I thought for sure they'd have dumped it DTV by now (or release it this Halloween like I thought they said last Halloween).
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It's freakin Halloween in two weeks - you have a scary movie called Trick R Treat. Fuck - it's marketing is GIFTWRAPPED. <br> <br> I was bummed to hear this was being dumped. I mean why not even go the Midnight Meat Train route and put it in the cheapo theaters? <br> <br> I don't see how this movie would have NOT made money if it was released this week or next week. <br> <br> just more proof that movie execs haven't got a fucking clue. The movie's made the hard part is done. How does it even have a chance to earn money for you if you just sit on it? Idiots.
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First Kenneth Lonnergan's "Margaret" - said to be, by some, Oscar #2 for Anna - and then this... two movies with Anna that can't find a proper release date. Too good for straight to DVD but hard sells for the studios. Sigh.
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...and the movie was a blast. The audience ate it up. Some great moments of dark comedy; one involving chocolate-blood vomit, and another a cat. Dylan Baker and Brian Cox -- both of whom have played child molesters -- were superb. The practical creature design for the Sam character was terrific. WB are absolute fucking morons for sitting on this. Had they released it this weekend instead of Body of Lies, it not only would have beaten Quarantine, but it would have slit Beverly Hills Chihuahua's throat.
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It might be the Leslie Bibb omen, who's in both Midnight Meat Train and TRT...
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was definitely finished and profitable. I have no idea how this movie hasn't gotten a release date yet. It would make money. Perhaps lots of it.
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Fucking TRAGIC is what this is. Who is *responsible* for the non-release of this movie??? They should be out of a job. Period.
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Anna Paquin is odd!
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SORT IT OUT WARNERS!
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Fantastic trailer. I want my original horror. This is fucking ridiculous.
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Fantastic trailer. I want my original horror. This is fucking ridiculous.
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I believe that got a decent release and found a niche audience.
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I am entirely shocked T'R'T has not made it to theaters this year. I have been looking forward to seeing it again since BNAT9, and I could not have imagined this would have happened. For my eleven bucks plus popcorn, that cut was ready to go ten months ago. I can sort of see how somebody could go crazy perfectionist in the editing room shuffling things around forever (in fact, no matter what the final result in theaters, this would be a great project for playing around with experimental amateur recuts), but it wouldn't have been necessary, and if there was a problem, I don't think it was that at all. I really think the problem is most likely that Warner just doesn't know what to make of this movie. It's scary, but it's also intensely fun. I haven't seen anything like it in years, maybe ever. It does have kind of that "Goosebumps with a budget" (@killianx) feel in a way, but no, it's actually scary too, and not without more mature themes here and there. Maybe more like Goosebumps grown up: Fun without being tediously corny, scary without being senselessly depraved. I utterly loved watching this as an adult on its own terms, but I can't help thinking how much I would also love to be a father with a 12-14 year old beside me in the theater for this movie. And there, I bet, is the problem. What you might not get with this movie is stoned frat boys sitting around the Sigma house afterward saying, "duuuuude, it was like, he was all *skwsh chonk thwash* and she was all AAAAA!" And I'd almost bet Warner is seeing that as The Audience for horror. In short, Warner can't figure out who the audience is and how to sell it. It's easier to sell another soulless revel in hand-tool-themed depravity than it is to risk taking a movie everybody would love, aiming it poorly and having nobody actually go see it to find out they love it. And if this is the case, they should be ashamed. This movie deserves the warm, sticky feel of your eyeballs upon it.
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Have any made money? Even Creepshow only made 20 million even with Stephen King and George Romero attached.<p>At least release this to DVD..how long can it sit on the shelf?
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I'm already sold just from hearing what it's about. You never see movies like this anymore. WTF are they waiting for?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I91NpKkhjuY
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Yeah, I'm aware of Iron Man. I pointed out Midnight Meat Train because it's another R-Rated horror film that got screwed. It was also a joke. And I keep seeing "anthology" thrown around, but this isn't a true anthology film. It's not four divided stories with bookends, but overlapping stories that play with time, a la Pulp Fiction, Go, and Amores Perros.
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...Ever feel like there is a conscious, concerted effort to get everyone used to remakes and sequels and lowbrow-concept garbage, also sequelized to infinity? Ever feel like the bar is being intentionally lowered, to minimize overhead and avoid struggles with "pesky" creative types? That the Hollywood money machine just keeps getting more and more efficient? Ever feel like a worthy movie is not being so much neglected as suppressed? And not for some Entourage-inspired party-blowjob-scenario reason either. No petty personal revenge...more...long-term planning. Ever feel like movies such as Beverly Hills Chihuahua or the SAW series are more of a socio-anthropological experiment than just bad ideas turned into movies? Market research? Does any other explanation for the Trick R Treatment of a long-finished, reportedly excellent AND "lucrative" movie make more sense than this one? Or should I be wearing a tinfoil hat?
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WB will just keep it on shelves for 10 years. Then after we've been talking about it every October for 10 years, they release it in theaters and it makes more than Titanic...!
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Also, when has a studio made a horror movie with the idea of going after box office gold. Historically, they're smash and grab. So, release it and be done with it.
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...that the Making-Of book is out, but Warners has not released the movie: http://tiny.cc/1hj9y
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If I have to wait until next October, so be it. But with a little effort, WB would have already made a tidy profit from this. It looks great... we haven't had a classy Halloween flick like this in a loooooong time.
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Then why did The Ruins tank? This site pushed the shit out of that one (which I admittedly enjoy the hell out of) and it ran into the wall harder than Sandra Bullock, right alongside Mirrors, proving that A)This site *gasp* has no real pull in "the real world" and B) The horror market ain't as big as you might think.
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And it was actually pretty damn good. Hilarious at parts, and scary at others. VERY reminiscent of Tales from the Darkside. Scary moments, with lots of dark humor. Pretty good Halloween movie, much better the Saw movies.
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I stated this elsewhere, but I seriously believe if The Godfather were to open now it would be a flop.
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Oct. 14, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST
Is this the same Michael Doughtery of Superman Returns?
by Cletus Van Damme
Not really asking for me, a co-worker grew up with him and was best friends with his sister.
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Is this officiall Marvel U continuity now? Lol!
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Is this officially Marvel U continuity now? Lol!
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Simple research will show you movies, even with the factor of inflation, are costlier now than they ever have been. This bizarre belief that the modern films are somehow "dumber" than movies of yore ignores the massive popularity of Smokey and the fuckin Bandit as well as the - what was it - 6? 7? Ernest goes to ___ movies. Dumbness in movies goes back as far as they go - the only thing is the bad movies of "back-in-the-day" slowly fade away until all you are left with is are the best and brightest. The argument of "movies as thrillride" goes all the way back to Jaws and Star Wars - gonna blame them? Hell - Id argue its been around ever since Cecil B DemIlle came up with the idea "bigger is better" in the late !910s. And I'll take the original Saw over 98% of "classic" horror movies - the "man in mask killing teenagers" was a fucking cliche by 1974.
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JUNO had Kitty Pride, J.J. Jameson and Elektra! What the hell, man!
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Saw this at Screamfest last Friday. It's a great looking, atmospheric film. It's more creepy than scary. But I think it's a perfect Halloween movie and it's a shame the idiots at WB are sitting on it.
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That's the only reason it tanked in my opinion. Drop off some idiots in the middle of nowhere, then have them sit around and die. Not much to thrill you beyond the initial concept. No twists/turns. In a word, boring. Trick R Treat at least looks like it has potential to be a fun horror movie.
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Just release it to DVD then if you're going to be assholes about it.
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TRICK R TREAT Got 5 out of 5 Knives. The BEST Review a Film can Get! So Please READ IT
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Sorry, just because you want to be called "James" now doesn't mean you're a better actor. I'll still remember him as the idiot from "Boogie's Diner", which also had Zack Ward. Anyhoo, I remember seeing the trailer and that whole Brian Cox plotline looked disturbing. As in, TV censors would allow that weird stuff that would scare children, but something as mundane as a navel or a married couple in a double bed was a no-no. I am disappointed, as I really wanted to see the story with Anna Paquin and the Vampires...although I could just catch something like that on HBO now.
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Been telling people about it all year. Now I am the liar.
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Damn, it sure looks good on that banner ad on top of this site. Come'on, the Hoff and cheap CGI snakes? How can that suck?
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.. But had to cancel my trip at the last minute. Dammit!
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and held back Body of Lies. That thing couldn't even beat the talking dog movie.
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jeez...
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Wasn't this ready to come out last year?
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The Hoff fighting off CGI snakes armed only with cheeseburgers...yea, cheap gag.
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Wah, wah, wah...Ya know, it's so predictable how things go on this site. First of all, this not an independent movie. Secondly, it was not that good. This is the same bullshit as that stupid Viking movie with Caveziel, Outlander; That movie was dreadful. DREADFUL. Let me say it again, so you understand me; DREAD FUCKING FUL! And all you stupid little fanboys do, is cry; Wah, wah, wah... Granted the studios don't always do the right thing but look people, we're in an industry where a fucking little dog in it's second week, beat out a Russell Crowe, Di Caprio movie directed by RIDLEY SCOTT. There's simply no way to predict or tell what will do good and what won't. The powers that be, throw darts at a board and see what sticks. Period. That's the way it's done. You want to know why they're not releasing this movie; It SUCKS. Superboy Doughtery can go bury his head in the sand. Lame.
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Trick 'r Treat was a fucking fantastic movie... but I think it's pretty clear why Warner has been so skittish about releasing this. They kill a whole lot of little kids. Not just teens. Kids. Naughty kids, mostly - but I'm sure that breaks some kind of unspoken Hollywood taboo nonetheless. During the Q&A after the show, Dougherty admitted that he thought this was also probably the reason it hasn't been released. He confided that the studio was pushing hard for him to turn it into a typical teens-get-picked-off-one-by-one flick the entire time. I'm really, really fucking glad he didn't give in... except that noone else may ever get the chance to see this now.<br><br> As succinctly as possible - Trick 'r Treat feels like the kind of movie Stephen Kind might have made 25 years ago... if he had Tim Burton's artistic sensibilities and fascination with the morbid. It's like a hard-R Goonies-meets-Corpse Bride-meets-Poltergeist-meets-Amazing Stories-meets Scream. That's about as good as my description is going to get, because it's not scary-horror so much as fun-horror... if that makes sense.<br><br> And venturing into mild spoiler territory (stop reading now if you don't want any spoilers... not that you have a chance of seeing this ever), Trick 'r Treat has one of the most badass Werewolf transformation sequences of all time - second only to An American Werewolf in London. Really, though, all four of the anthology stories were fantastic... and the 100+ minute run time literally felt like 20 minutes (I can't even think of the last time I was so entertained that I lost track of time like that). If Warner manages to ever fucking grow a pair and release the film, I think they might find they have an amazing new franchise on their hands.<br><br> Here's a few other things we picked up at my screening: The kid with the sack-head is named Sam (Dougherty said there wasn't really a reason for this and Sam doesn't have a backstory - he felt that too much exposition makes for shitty horror). Currently, there are no plans to release the movie in any format anywhere at any time. There are no DVD or theatrical plans. Dougherty worried that, worst case scenario, it might become an annual underground film festival hit. There's also apparently a ton of merchandising deals that are now rotting on the vine on account of there now being merchandise but no movie (like the coffee table art book and the Sideshow Collectibles Sam figure... both of which were given away to lucky attendees at my screening). Had we seen a proper release, I don't doubt that Sam would have become just as much a horror icon as Freddy or Jason. Also, the Screamfest screening was the first time any of the cast had seen it on the big screen (now that's just sad). Oh, and Sam is played by a canadian kid that is literally like 3 feet tall.<br><br> Anyway, yes. The movie is fucking amazing and the fact that it's not getting released is a crime against anyone that loves movies. Doubly so when you consider the torture-porn anti-horror bullshit we're being fed these days. Oh, and "Daddy, I just need help with the eyes." *cringe*
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About the killing kids... that includes a school bus full of chained up retards. The one with the paper bag costume is just fucked the fuck up. That is SO my costume this year.
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Oct. 14, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST
Warner Bros finally give an answer as to why no release!!!
by HarryBlackPotter
"Trick R Treat will be released...when Michael Doughtery and Bryan Singer pay us back the $350,000,000.00 dollars they pissed away for us on Superman Returns. When we get the money back, we'll release the film."
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If it sucks so what. At least let us see it. Its just retarded.
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Dark Night of the Scarecrow, but put it on the big screen for October. Charge only $1 for admission, and you'll make a fortune.
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From one Armageddon fan to another, bless you. <br><br> BC, horrormovieaday.com
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Warner Bros? Do You know just How Rarely most AICN Talkbackers ever come Together to Support ANYTHING???? Please Warner Bros Take a Hint!!!!!!
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Whoever is holding back this movie, for whatever reason...I want their head on a fucking stick. A goddamn moron could make this movie turn a profit....fucking shit like Quarantine made 15 mill in ONE WEEKEND. Pussies at WB catering to teeny-boppers. Think back to the extreme horror that was released on a ROUTINE BASIS back in the early 80's....garbage, but extremely graphic. Now we have a movie that *might* offend a handful, so it doesn't get released. This whole situation is extremely obnoxious. :P
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get this out on dvd.
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It's all new. It feels like a modern Creepshow cut up Pulp Fiction style. Everything looks and smells of that wonderful holiday in this film. The laughs are genuine and not cheesey. And a new face in horror is born...Sam, and he's wonderful. A very well made character that you will only want to be seeing much more of after this. Thaks to mister spoiler above, yeah they kill kids. But so what. Isn't that when you become truly scared, when you see the director is not holding back or sticking to a safe formula. Which is frankly all these PG-13 horror movies from Hollywood are about, safe predictable formulas. As much as I'd like to, I won't go into details because you need to see this if you want something new but also surprisingly familiar in a horror movie. This movie is solid right down to the score. I wish it would release sooner than later, but it will be worth the wait... trust me.
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And Halloween III kicked all kinds of ass, and I'll defend that flick until I die. It just should have been called "Season of the Witch." The music and cinematography are fantastic and the plot is so fucked that you can't help but love it. Which means this movie HAS to be good, if it has at least something in common.
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Sammi Curr will have his revenge on you all. There is only one Trick Or Treat.
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Remember...remember when...uh...you played...um...remember when you played Cyclops in the....in the X-Files...um...I mean...the X-Men movies? <p> MARSDEN: Um...yes...yes I do. <p> McPONY: Um...That was cool.
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Oct. 15, 2008, 6:28 a.m. CST
Another October passes by and still no Trick R Treat.
by HarryBlackPotter
Sigh.
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Dougherty cited about a dozen precedents for killing kids right off the top of his head, but there's no accounting for studio stupidity. Just look at how Lionsgate is treating Repo! The Genetic Opera. In showbiz there's no fucking justice at all.
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that would be awesome.
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Is that rag still in existence? It functions only as press release, it's circulation consistently dwindles. At any rate, I've been awaiting the debut of TRICK R TREAT for more than one year. I thought the film was a shoo-in for this month. It's only competition would have been another SAW snoozefest! Jesus, it was produced on only a fraction of SPEED RACER's megabudget and would certainly draw $$$ (the HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL remake, negative reviews notwithstanding, minted serious revenue as a result of its Halloween engagement. It's not a good film but, for some nebulous reason, I'm hooked on that B-movie. One helluva cast, too). Bottom line: if a turd like BOOGEYMAN can somehow escape (and that gobbler actually made a big profit), why can't TRICK R TREAT find some visibility?
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First off, you don't come across as actually having seen the movie as you spend most of your time comparing it to a movie that it's not comparable to. Second, I wouldn't argue the movie is genius, but if you've seen it, it's virtually undeniable the movie would be profitable. It's finished. There is no need for a re-shoot. Anna Paquin's profile is arguably at an all time high because of True Blood. There's really no reason for the thing to not see the light of day. Unless of course you can specifically give reasons why the movie you apparently saw wasn't that great or even good.
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There has to be a way to see this movie this year, there just gotta.
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I meant Stephen Spielberg. Instead, I badly typo'd Stephen King. ;(
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I have the book and it was awesome! The look of the film captures the feel of halloween. And a BIG PLUS FOR ACTUALLY HAVING KIDS PLAY KIDS in the film! I'm tired of twenty somethings always playing teenagers in films! At least this film actually got real teenagers to play teens! Japan t.v. shows gets real teens to play teens all the time. How come Americans always hire 20 somethings? Oh well......
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...LOOKS REALLY PRETTY IN THIS FILM! Too bad 'so and so' had to go and ..... whatshisname WB exec. Dam behind the scene crap!
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