Horror Movie A Day: THE WRAITH (1986)
Forget it, Murphy. Roadblocks can’t stop something that can’t be stopped.
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s installment of A Movie A Day.
[The regular A Movie A Day list has been frozen in order for me to do an all-horror line-up for October. I’ve pulled many horror titles from my regular “to see” stack and have ordered many more horror and thriller titles to make sure we have some good stuff. Like the regular AMAD column all the movies I’m covering are films I have never seen, but unlike the regular AMAD column I will not connect each film to the one before it. Instead I will pull a title at random every day and watch whatever the movie Gods determine for me.]
So, maybe I should have listened to you guys.
Yeah, the movie blows. It’s not good, but you know what? It still has a rather high entertainment value.
And I will say it does squeak by as culty and sci-fi/horror-ish enough to be included in this list. I mean, The Wraith is a vengeful ghost… dressed up in a dominatrix outfit and motorcycle helmet, but still… his victims die in fiery wrecks, but their bodies remain unscratched minus their eye-balls. And Clint Howard is in it. He’s so horror he even makes APOLLO 13 a horror movie.
I mistakenly referred to this film as having aliens in it at the end of yesterday’s HMAD and I’m still trying to decide if I actually did make a mistake or not.
Essentially, you have a small Arizona town (which is supposed to be Tucson, but it’s way too small to be Tucson) that is controlled by a road gang that likes to force people with cool cars to race for pinks, so they can legally steal the cars.
Nick Cassavetes (who went on to become director of THE NOTEBOOK and ALPHA DOG) leads these road punks and I guess they can get away with this because the cops in the town are worthless. Cassavetes is a real mean son of a bitch in the movie, but I never really bought his threat and found myself just waiting for the bully to be shown as the emperor without any clothes.
That leads us to Charlie Sheen. This film falls in-between his incredibly memorable appearance in FERRIS BUELLER’S DAY OFF and his star-making turn in Oliver Stone’s PLATOON, so I can understand why he took it. We have a lead role in a fun, crazy little low budget sci-fi/horror/I-don’t-know-what-genre movie. He gets to make out with a 20 year old Sherilyn Fenn and ride around on a motorcycle for the majority of the movie.
I see why he did it. He probably didn’t know he was going to land an Oliver Stone movie directly after. No worries. He’s not bad in it… not good, either, but it’s not a career-killer.
And he gets to have some screentime with Randy Quaid, who I can’t imagine was happy with the dialogue he had to spew in this movie. The words in the subhead came out of his mouth and he looked like he was in pain delivering them.
Quaid plays the dickhead, cowboy hat wearing Sheriff trying to catch the road punks in the act, get them thrown in jail for good, while at the same time investigating them getting picked off one by one by this mysterious rider in a futuristic car (really a Dodge Pace Car, the M4S), leaving eyeless bodies in the burning rubble.
But it’s the gang around Cassavetes that really make the movie worthwhile. First you have the double-trouble combo of Skank and Gutterboy (played by David Sherrill and Jamie Bozian respectively) who are always tweaked out of their mind… chugging WD40 or shooting up the nose. If they were any more over the top they’d literally be cartoon characters walking around in a live action movie.
But the MVP of the movie is, of course, the great Clint Howard sporting a hairdo that’d make Eraserhead nod in approval.
He’s the spazzy gang member, the brainiac who pimps out the others’ cars, but doesn’t get his hands dirty if he can’t help it.
His performance is vintage Clint Howard, but I can say it doesn’t come anywhere near topping his work in TICKS, but then again… what can? “I’m in-FEST-eeeedddd!”
The movie hangs on the re-romance of Charlie Sheen and Sherilyn Fenn, who is the object of Cassevetes’ obsession. He’s of the mind that if he can’t have her no one can, but she doesn’t like assholes, so she doesn’t like this dude.
In fact, her last boyfriend died mysteriously… while fucking her. She was knocked out and he was cut up… We’re told this, no shit, within 2 sentences of the same character outlining that Cassavetes’ Packard Walsh would kill anybody that flirts with this girl and then expected to see it as a big reveal that it was Cassavetes behind the death of her old boyfriend.
Oh, and, spoiler, that old boyfriend is really Charlie Sheen who is The Wraith. Why doesn’t he look like his old self? He apparently got as close as he could, whatever that means.
They don’t explain much of this movie. They really just want you to enjoy some crazy car chases, a cool-ass Turbo Interceptor and some fun genre people doing crazy characters. They’re not worried about any of it making any sense. Is Charlie Sheen a revenge seeking ghost? An Alien being that's somehow been infected with his murdered soul? I don't know what the hell it is, but it's definitely not your typical revenge-from-beyond-the-grave character.
So, yes. Writer/Director Mike Marvin’s script is bad, but at least fun enough to make the bad stuff enjoyable. The budget is low, the production values aren’t very high, but at the same time you have a great, recognizable cast and a soundtrack that would cost $20 million today, featuring Ozzy (Secret Loser), Motley Crue (Smokin’ In The Boys Room), Robert Palmer (Addicted to Love) and Billy Idol (Rebel Yell).
Final Thoughts: Ridiculous, unbelievable, poorly constructed, under-budgeted and just over-all sloppy… but still entertaining. It’s so very ‘80s, which gives it enough of a kitsch factor that you can just roll with it. I can’t say it’s unintentionally hilarious because I guarantee the number one point of the movie was be fun and it can’t help but be enjoyable, if only on certain levels. And I will say that Nick Cassavetes is a much better director than actor. Sorry, dude.
Here are the titles in the drawing pool for the rest of October:
Wednesday, October 1st – Friday, October 31st: H-MAD! Horror Movie A Day! Check out the list here!
Now’s the the time to pull the next HMAD!
Next up is:
A Christmas horror movie with Paul Bartel and Roger Corman regular Mary Woronov. Sure, why not? See you folks tomorrow for that one!
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Oct. 14, 2008, 1:52 a.m. CST
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST
Now I know why I've never heard of The Wraith before. ;)
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST
I really can't wait for you to get to that one man. The less you know about it going in...the better...I really adore that flick.
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:14 a.m. CST
Is one of my fave 80's flicks. Used to love this back in the day, watching horror movies with my cousins. Think I discovered this little trashy gem on the same day I discovered Halloween. We were doing a horror movie night and these two were part of our video rentals. Not a bad night in huh?
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:16 a.m. CST
...And I have to come back just in time for this one? Actually, not that bad of movie but completely forgettable save for the actors involved. I just always saw it as a weak remake of High Plains Drifter.
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:18 a.m. CST
by vic twenty
And Randy Quaid.
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:23 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
fuck's sake. It just jumped to the top of my "Must see" list.
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:24 a.m. CST
by vic twenty
I read about it in Car & Driver and then it showed up in this. 1986, when people still went to Auto shows.
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:25 a.m. CST
by vic twenty
Shit's got K-K-K-KICK!
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:40 a.m. CST
...much better name.
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:44 a.m. CST
I watched this on Cinemax when I was like 9 playing with my LEGOs.
Oct. 14, 2008, 3:02 a.m. CST
I saw this years ago, probably in Middle School or early High school and watched it regularly for two reasons Sherrlyn and the Dodge. my copy was on a tape recorded off of HBO which for some reason never had the title on it, and my aunt, who had recorded it for me, labeled it "Street Hawk" so I always thought it was a varient of that name, anyways great stupid no sense making, low budget flick<P>I always interperted the end as being somehow alien related, liek the aliens ressurrected Charlie Sheen, Crow Style, so he could extract his revenge on Nick Cassavettes and get the girl
Oct. 14, 2008, 3:06 a.m. CST
It doesn't make any sense, but sometimes movies don't have to. See, some things fail so badly that they win. This is one of those films. You must rent it and watch it, while drinking with friends.
Oct. 14, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST
I have a nostalgic soft spot for this silly movie too. The $7 DVD in the States I found was in fullscreen format only. The Japanese Region 2 DVD is in widescreen though. The Japanese title is [i]Shokei Raidaa[/i] which translates as "[i]Execution Rider[/i]". How strong does nostalgia have to be though to get somebody to spend $30 on a DVD that will only play on a region-free player?
Oct. 14, 2008, 4 a.m. CST
I love this movie! Yeah, it's a piece of shit, but it's great fun, up there with 80's classics like Trick or Treat, The Gate, The Stuff, Ghoulies, My Science Project, No Retreat, No Surrender etc. I grew up on this stuff. Awesome soundtrack too. Stan Bush, Lion, Tim Feehan. Hey, if they can remake Red Dawn, surely a Wraith remake can't be far behind.
Oct. 14, 2008, 5:25 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Don't get me wrong, Quint calls it correctly: this is a shit movie. But it is THE classic example of a movie that's so shit it's great. The opening sequence is all kinds of awesome, the Wraith's car is just spectacular, the SFX are okay, and the characters are just bugnuts. Not one iota of this movie makes any sense, yet I absolutely love it. And the VHS cover is all metallic shiny stuff - just beautiful. Up there with the CELLAR DWELLERS and the FROM BEYONDS as a movie which is great, but in no way as great as their VHS box covers.<P> Jarv, as a purveyor of so-shit-it's-great movies, I thinks you'll enjoy this one.<P> Long time no see, by the way ;D
Oct. 14, 2008, 5:30 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
You know, I always thought the series STREET HAWK (the guy with the bike that could do 300 mph and was in no way similar AT ALL to KINGHT RIDER) felt a lot like THE WRAITH. To complete a trilogy of fantastic cheesy 80s super-machine fun, watch THE WRAITH, then STREET HAWK's pilot movie, then the Jeffrey Combs pilot-movie-that-never-made-it-to-series (well it feels like it anyway) CYCLONE, complete with amazingly overcomplicated superbike, Tangerine Dream score (which after their score for STREET HAWK was suddenly de rigeur for all super-machine series), Jeffrey Combs as a geek designer who pulls Heather Thomas (from THE FALL GUY), and Heather Thomas' tits.<P> That's it. This weekend is shit-but-great 80s super-machine pilot movies day at Casa De Spud. It's a very specific niche, but one that's vastly under-rated :D
Oct. 14, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
By God, it sounds like we had the same childhood! We're privileged to have grown up in the VHS boom - the shite they're grinding out for kids these days is just appalling. Platinum Dunes, MIRRORS, all the J-horror US reduxes... just UGH.
Oct. 14, 2008, 5:33 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Hey, all I wants is a Clint Howard / Mike Marvin / Nick Cassavetes commentary. And a complete documentary just on the Dodge. That completes my requests for the Special Edition DVD, wihich should be here RIGHT F~*@ING NOW!!!
Oct. 14, 2008, 5:35 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
All this love for THE WRAITH, people buying Japanese imports, scouring auto shows to see the Dodge... and for decades I thought I was the only one who actually enjoyed this shit. Great to be here, basking in the warm glow of 80s nostalgia :D
Oct. 14, 2008, 5:37 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
Yeesh. That film still gives me the chills. And that scene in the hospital...<P> Absolutely horrible, in all the right ways. Quint won't know what hit him...
Oct. 14, 2008, 5:41 a.m. CST
by hank quinlan
The fucking Wraith! The Wraith! How many times did I watch this movie as a kid. I wanted it to be awesome so bad. And it wasn't But hey, I loved it anyways!
Oct. 14, 2008, 5:45 a.m. CST
by Darth Mulder
...was always a favorite of mine(and not just for Fenn's nude scene).In fact, I've thought for a long time that "The Crow" was almost a complete rip-off of "The Wraith".Hell, Even one of the gang members in "The Crow" is named "Skank".
Oct. 14, 2008, 6:23 a.m. CST
by Mr Nicholas
Oct. 14, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST
I couldn't help thinking how much it reminded me of The Wraith. Christ, isn't there a character called Skank in The Crow as well?<P>Oh Quint, I thought Clint Howard's line in Ticks was 'I'm infested.' Either way he really sells it.
Oct. 14, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST
by I Dunno
...is the only thing I processed from that.
Oct. 14, 2008, 7:22 a.m. CST
I should probably have read the talkback, that way I would have avoided my almost word-for-word repeat of your post. Glad to see I'm not alone though.
Oct. 14, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST
Also one of my favorites from the 80's - I own a copy that I picked up in some 3/$10 bin at Wallymart (to make it even weirder/cheesier it's in a non-standard slim, clear hard case). Definitely zeroed in on my car fetish (hahaha, I actually owned a Dodge Daytona turbo at the time!).
Oct. 14, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST
I think he's going to be pretty surprised too. I'm looking forwards to his take on it. I picked it up back on VHS, not having any idea what it was...and man it just knocked me out. Dead and Buried is a GREAT movie.
Oct. 14, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST
When I was a kid I loved this movie. "Shit has some kick!"
Oct. 14, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST
Sherilyn Fenn's tittays.
Oct. 14, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST
Oct. 14, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST
were a couple growing up because they did so many movies together. Apparently, that was not the case.
Oct. 14, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST
How "dare" you mention the soundtrack and not "touch" on the legendary Stan Bush? Though it will be a "fight to survive," I will "never surrender" until his legendary work is recognized in the battle of "heart vs head."
Oct. 14, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST
and now my kids love it. It is what it is, don't knock it just kick back and enjoy the fact that it exists.
Oct. 14, 2008, 11:15 a.m. CST
Bartel was gay as they come (no pun intendend). But they did make a nice married couple in Chopping Mall.
Oct. 14, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST
by spud mcspud
You're all absolutely right. And despite THE CROW and THE WRAITH being two of my favourite movies, I never saw that similarity.<P> The first sequence where you see the lightning then the Dodge for the first time... my God, THE WRAITH was amazing up to that point! But then the actors appear. And it all goes crap/brilliant... what a wonderful movie. Never have so many enjoyed so much for so little reason.<P> Oh, and THE CROW rocked. Fantastic movie. Must dig it out for Hallowe'en :D
Oct. 14, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST
Oct. 14, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST
That's the whole reason I watched this movie over and over and over again when I was a teen. Thems some nice tats!
Oct. 14, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST
by Quake II
The Wraith was filmed on the outskirts of Tucson (including the winding roads leading up to the Mount Lemmon ski resort). The water scenes were filmed at Sabino Canyon (far east side of town). The only real scenes shot within the city was the street chase downtown. So "technically" it was filmed in Tucson...Just not IN Tucson. And yeah, the movie is "ok" 80's entertainment.
Oct. 14, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST
Blimey, I don't remember Sherilyn Fenn being in this? <p>The only thing I remembered about this film was the Interceptor (of course) <p>Damn, even 20-odd years later, that car looks sick! <p>Dodge, if you want an instant boost in your finances, put that sucker into production and call it a Turbo Interceptor (I don't even care if it has a turbo, just the name is cool enough!) <p>Oh and if I were you Mr Dodge CEO, I'd get your legal team on the phone and sue the ass of Ferrari, cos an F40 looks mighty close to a TI.
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST
Dude, my boss is wondering why I said "Holy GOD, you're right!" in a loud voice when I wasn't talking with anyone... Very interesting, what with the Skank reference and the plotlines for both movies. Never thought of it before. <br> Also, for some reason, when this was played on television in the Philippines in the late 80's, it was called "Black Moon Rising II". They even had a very badly-cut-in title screen that took the place of the "The Wraith" title screen. But I still love this movie, for some really stupid and godawful reason. What reason that is, I don't know. All I can say is that I remember that this was where I picked up the phrase "We'll beat him like a redheaded stepchild!". Great flick!!
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST
you claim not to know exactly what the "Wraith" is. The movie is basically a thematic rip-off of High Plains Drifter. Dead guy returns to town as a ghost to revenge-kill everyone responsible for his death. The only thing is he doesn't physically look like the same guy who died. Looks different, but same guy. The Wraith is basically the same deal.
Oct. 14, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST
As I see the headline of Quint deconstructing one of my all-time guilty pleasure movies from the 80s. Everytime some friends of mine play this game, I say "The Wraith." And it's guaranteed that at least a few people who are playing have never heard of it. Hot cars, Fenn boobs, great music, ridiculous one-liners - it's impossible not to like. Bravo Quint.
Oct. 14, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST
get a remake from Mikey Bay? 3. 2. 1.
Oct. 14, 2008, 6:25 p.m. CST
by Paul T. Ryan
The premise makes no sense whatsover (and a stuntman was killed during production, just further those Crow similarities) but its demented 80's fun. And Sherylin Fenn gets em' out. So all is good.
Oct. 14, 2008, 6:30 p.m. CST
Ah, the 80's... When Rick Mears, Al Unser Jr, Mario Andretti and more drove the Indy circuit, and auto racing wasn't just a redneck sport. The PPG Pace Cars for those races were concept cars, and pretty kick ass ones, driven by a female driving team. In the lead-ups to the races themselves, you could get a test lap ride in the cars around the speedway, and while I'm sure they didn't break 100mph or even come close, that's still a great way to see any racetrack. "The Wraith" is probably the only movie in my lifetime where I specifically searched it out because it was going to be starring a *car* that I was a fan of, after getting to see in at the races. Of course, after seeing this movie, that's probably reason enough to avoid searching out another one.
Oct. 14, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST
Clint could pull off Kim Il Sung...who knew?
Oct. 14, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST
by The Amazing G
sounds like a fun 80's movies and like Jello there's always room for that
Oct. 14, 2008, 7:30 p.m. CST
I meant Kim Jong-Il. Heck, it's Clint, so He could pull them both off, and throw in Kim Philby and Kim Darby.
Oct. 15, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST
I always say "The Wraith". and, true it's one of those so bad it's good 80's nostalgia trips, I still love it. Fenn was beautiful (and tan, unlike most of her appearances). The car was awesome, and the bad guys straight out of a bad comic. i was elated a few years ago to find it in the $5.00 bin at wal-Mart after thinking a DVd didn't even exist. I bought 2 copies.
Oct. 15, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST
A really really bad cheapo ripoff. But it was cool to watch on cable in the middle of the night years ago. gfy
Oct. 15, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST
Best things about the film were the revenge elements, the car and Sherilyn Fenn's ripe tits on display.
Oct. 15, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST
1) Theatrical version didn't show Fenn's fantastic mams; they cut away before before they popped out. 2) UK version is Widescreen and the company who put it out domestically gave us a crappy full frame version, but retained the longer Fenn scenes. Where's a MERIDIAN DVD when you need it?
Oct. 15, 2008, 10:25 p.m. CST
Yes it's cheap, yes it's plot is recycled, but it still has its charm(s)--including Fenn's body parts. The idea of the car and the lightning may also come from "Back To The Future", which came out July 1985.-----later-----m
Jan. 19, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST
Forgive my Lazarus approach at resurecting dead topics, but there was so much feedback on here, i couldn't keep from posting it. The car lives, we're rebuilding one of the original movie interceptors. Check our website.
Feb. 11, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST
Feb. 15, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST
so I'll finally be able to see it, I don't know if it's widescreen though
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