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ABC Bringing Back V!!

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"The 4400" co-creator Scott Peters is penning a remake of the 1983 Nazi-lizard alien-invastion miniseries "V." Variety describes the premise:
In this case, the new "V" will center on Erica Evans, a Homeland Security agent with an aimless son who’s got problems. When the aliens arrive, her son gloms on to them — causing tension within the family. As in the original "V," several storylines will unfold simultaneously.
Find all of Variety’s story on the matter here.

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  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST


    by odo19

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Why not just show the original?

    by Dreamwriter

    Super-hype it up, and I'm sure it could do well.

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:25 p.m. CST


    by aboriginal

    What's with this struggling family crap and teenagers that just don't get it? They better be on the ball for scripting this one. And, where the frak is originality in Hollywood anymore?

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:29 p.m. CST

    So, the loooong rumored movie is no go?

    by slder78


  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:32 p.m. CST


    by Eh-Nam

    This is great news!!

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST

    NOT Cool...not cool at all...

    by Kmdr. Coenig

    Can't the fucking current regime at Warners Television summon up the brains to realize how V was ruined in the first place? Kenneth Johnson is what made it special in the first place...and he WANTS to work on a new production. Bastards. No Mike, no Julie, no Kenneth Johnson, no me as a viewer...

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Kenneth Johnson is pissed.

    by zacdilone

    Howard Johnson is right about Kenneth Johnson being pissed.

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Micheal Ironside Bitches!

    by otm shank

    And his baggy of flesh tearing red dust!

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:46 p.m. CST

    V was cool at the time

    by Campion

    But even then the effects were cheesy. Make another Alien Nation TV movie and I'll be happy.

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Let this not be a anti-Bush series

    by CrazyGnome

    I can't wait to see this,but please don't make this anti-bush. Choose Nazis, Darfur, Terrorism, etc. There are many other evils to choose from. We have a bajillion anti-republican films and shows out already. V is utter coolness, it doesn't need to go down the well tread road of Bush regime is like Nazis....yada yada. I will watch it regardless. I hope it gets good funding for nice special effects.

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Didn't Kenneth Johnson quit before V:The Final Battle?

    by TVguy4566

    If I remember correctly, he quit because of creative difference and wanted the second mini-series to be similiar to his last book, V:The Second Generation. So the series did survive without him.<br><br> That said, I don't mind seeing a reboot of V, but I am not look for a family drama bullshit. I am also not looking for them to create new character and just steal storylines from the original (the storyline described is similiar to the Mike/Sean father/son subplot). <br><br> If they can do more of Battlestar Galatic type of reboot than a Bionic Woman or Knight Rider reboot, then I will be on board. Otherwise, they should just make a feature film or two and go big budget.

  • Oct. 9, 2008, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Remake a made-for-TV series with ANOTHER?

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Idiotic. The only way to do this RIGHT is to make a feature film based on the original series. That way, everything from the SFX, to the dialouge, violence and human-on-lizard sex can be ratcheted up several notches!<p>The original mini-series was very good, but this television remake will fall flat on its face, guaranteed.<p>BAD move, ABC... >:(

  • Oct. 10, 2008, midnight CST

    Kenneth Johnson has been pushing a sequel for years.

    by zacdilone

    I think we are all indebted to Gabby Johnson here for clearly stating what had to be said, and I'm glad the children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, but it expressed a courage that is little seen in this day and age.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:02 a.m. CST

    They're baaaaaaaack!!!

    by Horace Cox

    Why not just base it off the original but set it 25 years later? Maybe the lizards have become immune to the red dust or whatever the fuck that shit was. Or maybe after mastering the intricacies of interstellar space travel the dumb fuckers finally invented gas masks or environmental suits that would enable them to visit Earth. Do something new with it rather than rehashing all the old shit.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:17 a.m. CST

    something VERY interesting about this... I smell CONSPIRACY

    by Todd

    if you read the variety article closely, you will notice that there is another executive producer teamed up with scott peters. It is a guy named jace hall. I looked him up imdb and it is JASON HALL the guy who started MONOLITH!! Dude, this guy has made some of the best games I've ever played. SHOGO, BLOOD, ALIENS VS. PREDATOR 2, TRON 2.0, F.E.A.R., CONDEMNED. It's all top rated shit, and Monolith is known for their awesome highly rated narrative games and storytelling. it is hard for me to believe that this guy would be involved in a tv show like this and it would come out badly or be unoriginal. his track record with games is pretty top notch for the most part. also i found this internet show he does called thejacehallshow and in it he has Gary Graham which tells me something is up with Ken Johnson on this because Gary Graham was the lead detective in ALIEN NATION and Ken Johnson did that show. so jace hall must know ken johnson and ken johnson must know about this project or be a part of it in some way. i dunno, there is def a connection. i just think that this jace hall exec producer guy is making this a little more interesting. i am a fan of the games he does. they are pretty deep. this could be really good or at least different. i'm skepticallly optimistic.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:39 a.m. CST


    by AtaxianTheMagnificent


  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST


    by zacdilone

    That's a typical Variety word. It was in the original...don't blame the AICN article.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:50 a.m. CST

    But will it have Robert Englund?

    by zacdilone

    Yes... The souls of the children give me strength.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:02 a.m. CST


    by Adelai Niska

    A show about the dangers of glomming

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:20 a.m. CST

    This makes me want to

    by Wheel99

    snort some red dust.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:35 a.m. CST

    Ah, it's 2002 all over again!

    by Paul T. Ryan

    I remember the fanboy fury six years ago when the remake of Battlestar Galactica was announced, not long after Tom DeSanto's continuation project fell apart. I predict a similar level of fury on the intertubes, though in this instance I feel genuinely sorry for Johnson, who's a good writer and a genuinely nice guy. Still, I liked The 4400 (damn you USA Network!) and I'll still check this out.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Re: Adelai Niska

    by SilentP


  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:49 a.m. CST

    instead of nazis...make em neocons

    by bacci40

    we need a show to totally piss off the wingnuts

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Are neocons Bayified transformers?

    by SlickyVonBoner

    Seriously though, what are neocons?

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Nancy Pelosi look-a-like as the head lizard

    by Sir Loin

    Seriously...that socialist is scary, her wide-eyed, dentured smile says, "I will EAT YOUR SOUL!" like those EVIL DEAD demons. Perfect for V!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Homeland Security commercial for the patriot act?

    by WalkingToaster

    First they wanted to do a sequel to the first series. An idea I liked. Then they decided to do a movie. An idea I could live with. And now a remake. A REMAKE!!! My god. Is there any intelligence left in Hollywood?

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Pointless. America is already run by fascists.

    by V'Shael

    Who needs analogy anymore?

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Gloms!?!? FFS Variety, speak the Queens english!

    by Big_Bubbaloola

    Bloody Hollywood suits! Christ!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:08 a.m. CST

    If they do it as grim as the New Caprica Episodes

    by ev1ldead

    in Battlestar this will kick Caprica's (the spinoff)ass. Unfortunately ABC needs more than 2 million Viewers so chances are higher that it will become as soapy as the first season of Jericho.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:09 a.m. CST

    Why no Kenneth Johnson?

    by photoboy

    He's been trying to make a follow up for years, why not let him do it?

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:12 a.m. CST

    I hope

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    they don't do the miracle half breed pregnancy. Woman goes to term in a day or 3. Kid goes to adulthood in a few days or overnite. And has supapowers.<p> V started good, turned to crap

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:15 a.m. CST

    M-O-O-N. That spells "Ham Tyler"...

    by Tom Cullen

    Gotta say, I'd be a lot more interested in this if it was a sequel series about a second invasion 25 or 30 years later. Have the reason for the second invasion start out as if it was a diplomatic rescue mission for the now poorly treated Visitors that were left behind after the war, and who had helped the humans in the resistance, only to be rewarded with being put in internement camps and/or treated like second class citizens after the invasion was over, despite their roles in helping humanity win back their planet. So the Visitors agree to leave, a ship comes to get them, but really it turns out to be the spearhead of another Invasion, and a somewhat justified one this time, which muddies the dramatic waters, as many who helped us last time only to be punished and badly treated by humanity for it later are now only to ready for a little payback, while others are torn in their loyalties, and even a large degree of sympathetic humans join the invaders against their own people. That way they could both start over with a fresh story in the same basic concept, as well as bringing back a few classic characters from the previous miniseries and show. Hell, s'what I'd do anyway. <p>Fuck it, hire Ironside and Englund regardless of how you unfold the new V, and I'll probably watch anyway.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:19 a.m. CST

    is the new novel any good?

    by Colonel_Blimp

    I read the first forty pages or so and found out life is too short for crappy sci-fi. I loved the original show though, so if there's a chance it gets better after a few chapters, I might give it another chance.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:21 a.m. CST

    loved the originals

    by GavinVanDraven

    but lets be honest, they are dated and to continue from where they left off... either at the end of the miniseries or the end of the series, would just be hokey. the 80's mentality of things, the fear of communism and fascism just wont play well today. it would be like remaking Red Dawn, and Top Gun...or doing a sequel to one of those set in present time.... which do you think works better? a sequel or a remake? NEITHER! so this series needs a FRESH approach if it is going to be resurrected. start over and change the visitors "angle". and beef up the special effects for fucks sake. not a remake, but a reboot.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:53 a.m. CST

    the 20yrs later premise sounded interesting, but this...

    by Maniaq

    just sounds like a shitty take on an all-too-familiar storyline. <P> ok maybe nobody saw Bionic Woman coming but we all knew Knight Rider was going to blow dog before pen even hit paper and if the Big W can't see what a bad idea this is, they deserve everything they get for making it happen. <p> Yes there's a small amount of parallel with the BSG campaign ultimately resulting in a reboot - but that show didn't turn it's back on the original plot or characters and decide it needed to go off in some completely new direction. <p> The original miniseries was solid. The series went downhill fast. This is just ass!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:54 a.m. CST


    by GravitysRainbow

    although no one could ever adapt Pynchon

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:59 a.m. CST

    Sure. Why not.

    by Itchy

    V was awesome ... but cheesy. If they treat this seriously - kind of a mix between V for Vendetta and Battlestar Galactica, it might just work. Of course, the a-holes will plop it down on Thursday night along with every single other show on tv ... so I'll probably never get to see it.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 6:12 a.m. CST

    V was good - but Dynasty like in it's campiness

    by Yeti

    If they make it BSG good - I say go for it.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 6:21 a.m. CST

    For the love of God! Why???!!!

    by keltic1701

    It wasn't that good 20 years ago. Why torture us again?!?!?

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 6:23 a.m. CST

    From Kenneth Johnsons website

    by j2talk

    this is the info on Kenneth Johnson's website: Update 10/9/08 -- You may hear reports that Warner Bros TV is attempting to “reimagine” V as a television series. This is relatively old news. Last fall their new concept, which Kenny in not involved with, was passed on by all four networks. Though ABC is again considering the possibility of developing a TV pilot project, this does not in any way affect Kenny’s ongoing efforts to remake his original classic as a major motion picture. Kenny’s prime desire is to bring big-screen production values to the new movie while protecting the quality, integrity and substance that made his original V such a critically acclaimed, international landmark. More soon. Ignore all other rumors -- the real deal will always be announced here as soon as possible.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 6:51 a.m. CST

    how come every channel

    by palewook

    but the sci-fail channel has sci-fi in development. (sorry this shitty D movies don't count) <p> more power to ABC. I'll watch.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Sorry Kenny

    by TVguy4566

    If they make a V TV series, the V movie is pretty much dead. Just ask Glenn Larson and his attempts to get a Battlestar Galatica movie.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST


    by Kid Z

    ...Totally gay! This 80s nostalgia bullshit's GOTTA stop!!!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Why not just finish the original series?

    by Angelus_420

    Come on! Really! Another remake show! There is no hope for this industry where all that gets done is remakes of old shows or show that are done in other countries. What a joke there isn't an original idea out there anymore.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 7:37 a.m. CST

    As long as

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    The alien chicks have big hair, I'm in<p> Loves me some big haired ailen chicks

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 7:42 a.m. CST


    by Alifemde

    I hope you're not serious... If so, wow, our education system has failed more so than the stock market lately. Any president who would rush a shiatty bailout like this $700billion blunder like Bush did, is FAR from a fascist... Actually leaning more towards communist, but I digress <p>As for bringing back V, I remember watching the TV show and reading all the books as a kid. But even back then thinking "Oh man is this over the top cheese!" Good cheese, but cheese nonetheless. Curious if this will be the same, or be more like the BSG revamp. Won't write it off just yet. </p>

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Earth 2 Instead!

    by caseylane

    If they are going to bring back a show make it Earth 2 not V. While not as creepy it was far better.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Ready for V

    by WerePlatypus

    I like Tom Cullen's idea, but I think the intersting part of V was the inital stance, almost like a global marketing campaign to convince the world that they were harmless. The fake masks hiding the reptilian underneath could me a metaphor for the new series. Oh Alifemede, Fascists in both Germany and Italy used Corporatism quite extensively in their respective regimes.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:08 a.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire

    Screw revisioning. Stop shitting on fans. Continue the story, ABC!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST


    by buffywrestling

    I haven't heard that word since Fonzie accused Leather Tuscadaro of stealing his wallet.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Maybe they''ll film it in "Doubley"

    by The real Jack Bauer

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:19 a.m. CST

    If they go the BSG route, and put

    by The real Jack Bauer

    a darker storyline in lieu of the campiness, this could be an interesting series.... FWIW didn't have any hope for BSG, BUT after viewing it, was very pleased.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST

    A "V" without Kenny Johnson IS NOT V!!!

    by Sithdan

    What does Kenneth Johnson have to say about this proposed series? If he's not on board, count me out. V is NOTHING without series creator Kenneth Johnson. Just look at what became of the original without his involvement. That's like making a Star Wars movie without George Lucas! The end product just wouldn't be the fucking same!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:28 a.m. CST

    It was cool when I was in 6th grade...

    by jackofhearts29

    Maybe not so cool now. Unless they reboot (ugh, I hate that word now) with new ideas. And better makeup

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    V For Vendetta...Get TORRI HIGGINSON To Play The JANE BADLER Rol

    by PoppaRotzi

    ...maybe I'll show her my trouser lizard...if you know what I mean...and I think you do...

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:32 a.m. CST

    V For Vendetta...Get TORRI HIGGINSON To Play The JANE BADLER Rol

    by PoppaRotzi the way, "Rol" means "Role"...carry on...

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    If they don't have those shades, it will suck.

    by stlfilmwire

    The aliens need those giant shades. Remember them? No shades? No uniform? No show. Keep the uniform the same, bro.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I loved V as a kid!!!

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    And even taught myself to play the theme song one the piano lol Im all for a new one if done well. Look how good Battlestar turned out. *fingers crossed*

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST

    That's a tough show to pull off

    by veritasses

    from the story to acting to (cost effective) production design and sfx etc. But if it can be done with BSG then I have hope. Not a lot of hope since it's on network TV and there will be too many people who want to make sure it's PC and kid friendly and have universally acceptable themes and stuff... But some hope is better than no hope.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST

    This made more sense before we became fascist.

    by _Maltheus_

    No habeas corpus, no posse comitatus, star chambers, torture, never ending wars, extremist nationalism, politicians unaccountable to the public, and most importantly socialized risk with privatized profits. We are now the textbook definition of a fascist society. Obviously the message of the last V and all those Nazi flicks was totally lost on the American public. I like the up to date message of this one, but making the star a Homeland Security agent kind of flies in the face of it. But I'm sure I'll check it out and hope that it's not Knight Rider bad.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Sequel series, NOT a "reboot" or "reimagining" PLEASE!

    by Clavius

    Just let Kenneth Johnson do his thing with "V". Have it take place after the original invasion where earth has been under visitor rule for 20-30 years. <br> <br>Also, does that render this IMDB entry bullshit? Because THIS is what I want to see, not some half assed reboot...<br> <br>

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Sweet- maybe Farrakhan can welcome the V leader

    by SkinJob69

    as the messiah! Then half the population loses their critical-thinking ability and turn into mindless zomibies. The zombies can then shuffle around town and instead of saying "Braaaiinns!" it can be "Chaaaaannge!". That would be awesome!!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Sarah Palin for the new Diana!

    by SpyGuy

    You know that scary bitch swallows live mice whole on a fairly regular basis.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    ROTFL SpyGuy

    by Clavius

    Ow, my sides are hurting. LOL. That fucking rocks man.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST


    by Redfive!

    The sequel sounded better and it would introduce new characters as well as retread on the old.Man what BS.BUT THATS HOLLYWOOD FOR YA.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST

    When Palin takes a dump...

    by Kid Z just know all those tiny little, sharp-ass mouse bones gotta hurt like a muthafuckah on the way out!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Continue the Story!! Fuck Remakes!!!!!

    by BilboRing

    Why? Is it harder to continue the story? Would the writers have to think and be creative then? I guess it's easier to to a remake. BURN HOLLYWOOD BURN!!!!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    so much for the big reveal...

    by dopepope

    Finding out they were Reptilians was very unexpected and exciting, when I was a kid.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Idiots, the Hollywood remake machine is at it

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    again. Get Kenneth Johnson, and let him do V, the second generation like he wanted. Idiots, ugh.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST


    by Movietool

    Invoking the "It would be like Star Wars without George Lucas" argument might not be the best way to approach convincing people that Johnson needs to be involved. <p>Just sayin.'

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    The reason for the huge shades

    by ArcadianDS

    the actors were wearing two masks - a lizard mask over a human mask, for those 'claw and shred the face away to reveal lizard skin' shots. They had no way to make the eyes look real, so they had to hide them with massive sunglasses. With CGI and improved animatronic FX, they could probably do a much better job and not need the sunglasses anymore.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    I'm With the Crowd...

    by DeeJay

    ... that thinks they should either plan to continue the original series or just push a film project with Disney. Whatever happens, they're still likely going to generate more interest in the original series, so why try a reboot? ABC might be better-off combining some of its own lesser-known 80's genre series in a Disney film project, and releasing DVD's of the original airings. This would work especially well for some of the shows that only lasted one full season. If they grabbed one of the top Marvel writers for the initial story concept (and worked with Marvel on the comic version of the show, along with Toybiz(?) on product tie-ins), they could effectively re-boot some characters which they previously *lost* money on. For now, I'm just trying to understand why Kenneth Johnson hasn't been able to get studio support for a "V" movie. Does anyone understand what he's been doing wrong?

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by DeeJay

    ... you're too much, fellow poster. "Burn, Hollywood, Burn"...

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Johnson's "Second Generation" novel? Terrible

    by Rich G

    Ken Johnson's "V: The Second Generation" novel is bad. Really bad. The plot starts with a good idea--those other aliens that Julie tried to contact at the end of the first miniseries finally show up. But his writing is awful. It reads like a script treatment, not a novel. It has paragraphs full of physical description and exposition instead of character development. There are wild swings in perspective, and there's a lack of depth or logic to the world. Maybe it would play better on screen, but on the page, it stank.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST


    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred always wanted to say that.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 11:52 a.m. CST


    by redfist

    get my balls out of your mouth this instant.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    What happened to Kenneth Johnson

    by matineer

    Sounds like they're taking the skeleton of his ideas, throwing bland story elements and rushing yet another remake out. If you want quality, go with the creator, if they are available. And yeah, its now like the plundering Visitors have us already. Somebody get Marc Singer, quick.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST

    no marc singer no micheal ironside

    by massolit

    no care. seriously...when are they doing another beastmaster? no remake no "re-imaging". give me a shitty sequel with marc and rip and those adorable scamps kodo and podo and i'll gladly pay $12 to see it.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST


    by Melvin_Pelvis

    this was already done to death. Earth: Final Conflict<p> Which had the worse final season of any show I can remember

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    V vs W

    by banditmania

    Masked Reptilian meets Shape shifting reptilian.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    This will suck.

    by Chest_Rockwell

    If they wanted to do it right, they'd make it modern day - have the lizards basically win the 80's battles in the end, and now after a generation of lizard living, humans have decided enough is enough, and are serious about a rebellion and have at it in a BIG lizards v humans battle for earth's future.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    More V More Me

    by blacklightning

    I'd rather V than whatever SciFi is on now.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Quick, Hollywood! Behind you! An original Idea!

    by BiggusDickus

    Too late, you missed it...

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    No sequel...

    by badboymason

    And heres why: The unique and interesting thing about V was the story of humans gradually accepting a more and more restrictive/authoritarian government and how people either were willing to go along with that or stand up to it. Once you get to the "aliens in charge" stage, its just another humans v alien film. So to recapture what made V great you have to go back to the start...

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    What about Robert England?

    by pokadoo

    They shafted him on that new Freddy film, they better give him a part as ,like, an earth scientest or something in a wacky juxtoposition/give-the-original- guy-his-props style scenario.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    clarification and thoughts

    by HB_Dad

    V was done in three series. For there was V: the miniseries. Then came V: The Final Battle. Later came V: The Series which went for one season and brought the series to total closure (Apparently "The Final Battle" was anything but that). The fifth column won control of command of the visitors in the end (with help of the resistance), arrested Diana, and left Earth peacefully and forever (Though they left so quickly they couldn't possibly have dropped off all of those captive humans in the process which could have been one feasible thing to build a sequel off of I guess). I would lean towards a redo, but after seeing how Battlestar Gallactica got butchered in its reimagining, I'd be afraid to see how the story here would get trashed as well.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST



    Oh my god this used to scare the shit out of me as a kid! I still to this day have no idea what it was about. Off to IMDB I go.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Single mom with troubled teen?

    by skimn

    I know there are only so many plots in the world, but, c'mon!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    You clowns would love this article...

    by BilboRing

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Please don't film this in Canada!

    by HellKing

    Bad sign since 4400 was shot in Canada. IMO, virtually every American show shot in Canada is low quality crap. And don't make it look like it a Sci-Fi channel original movie.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    cautious optimism

    by filmfanatic1

    This is just some trial balloon that ABC sent up for our reaction; I loved the mini-series, and anyone who's seen the last eps of the show that didn't get broadcast knows it went to crap. I'm gonna wait til there's more detail to this.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Jane Badler defines hawt.

    by Diagnostic

    Yup. Just look it up.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST


    by TVguy4566

    V:The Final Battle was a V mini-series without Kenneth Johnson and it was still pretty good. Johnson quit that mini-series in the early stages because he did not like the direction NBC wanted to go. If Johnson stayed with project, there wouldn't have been the Ham Tyler character (one of the more popular characters from the series) for example. It is clear that was a character developed after Johnson left the project since he is nowhere to be found in his V:Second Generation book. Not even a mention.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Marc Singer's career is now resurrected!

    by Leafar the Lost

    I remember enjoying the V mini-series, but the TV series was really bad. I predict that we will see some kind of role for Marc Singer, but not for Robert England. He went on to do Freddie and he is too big a movie star now to return to television. There may actually be a Freddie v. Jason v. Michael movie. By the way, this will be Canadian made all the way. In the future, all TV shows will be filmed in Canada.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 4:44 p.m. CST

    maaaan, the theme tune

    by RockLobster800

    to V: The Final Battle was friggin awesome...its my second fav TV intor music after Twin Peaks....most tv theme tunes these days arent of that atandard....except maybe the Sopranos and Six Feet Under, but they only come marginally close really....maybe Curb-oh and Arrested Developments theme was pretty nifty

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Marc Singer at Comicon a few years ago

    by wash

    So sad, Mr. Beastmaster was sitting at a table by himself, waiting for people to come up and ask for his autograph. A few feet away, there were literally hundreds of people waiting to get an autograph from the used-to-be-hot-but-now-totally-unrecognizable Jenna Jameson.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Please don't film this in Canada?

    by axcel1

    HellKing, my pal, my friend, my fellow scifi lover, where else can they film it? First rule of filming ANYTHING!!!! is, it must be made as CHEAP as possible!!!!!!!!!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by DeeJay

    ... the 2nd mini-series gave us a top-notch character in Ham Tyler, but didn't it also give us that terrible "Starchild uses her magical glowing powers" ending? That was one of the all-time worst rip-off/cheat/cop-out/sell-out/screw-job endings of the genre. I'd rather have seen Elizabeth use a laptop computer to diffuse the doomsday device. And, yes, that's intentionally anachronistic...

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 5:54 p.m. CST

    just so people are clear

    by Maniaq

    the "official" ie Ken Johnson V concept is set 20 years later and basically ignores the non-Ken V shows (The Series and I believe The Final Battle too). <p> So yes, no Ham Tyler (which absolutely was a totally cool character thanx in no small part to Mr Ironside) and also no stupid ass Starchild magical powers - which is exactly what we'll no doubt be getting from BSG btw. <p> Instead we get the answer to our distress call sent out to the OTHER alien race who could kick the Visitors' ass. I guess they're about 20 lightears away? <p> They arrive and we find out that as much as we had to fear from the (non-5th Column) Visitors, these guys are FAR WORSE. <p> I must admit I haven't read the book. From the above description, Ken's writing style sounds a lot like William Gibson's - which is notoriously difficult to adapt to screen. Maybe that's why it's been so hard to greenlight? <p> Regardless, does ANYONE believe ABC's single mother and troubled teen premise sounds BETTER?? <p> Anyone? <p> Anyone? <p> I didn't think so.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 7:16 p.m. CST


    by bswise

    The ol' Reptilians from "V" vs. Natalie Portman as the new V from "V for Vendetta!" "VvV" would certainly blow "AvP" away, and it be 100% compliant with the secret Hollywood Unoriginality Act. Va-Va-Voom!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Um, what if the signal sent at the end of V

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    called the Predators to Earth to fight the Visitors? Hey a guy can dream can't he?

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Cool...David Icke was RIGHT...!

    by superzero I don't think so, just thought it would be interesting to see if anyone actually gets that joke...still have my old V toy laser gun from when I was a wee one. Have the Dvd's and am glad my 12yr old son likes them too! Now, when are we going to get a big budget, David Fincher directed "They Live" remake!!! C'mon Hollywood, the time is now!!!

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Star Wars Clone Wars is awesome!!

    by ReEkOs_RoUgHnEcKs

    too bad there's no talkbacks for it. cool i loved V when i was a small one back in 84.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST

    a single mother with troubled teen -- NOOOOOOOOOOOO

    by kabong

    In this case, the new "V" will center on Erica Evans, a Homeland Security agent with an aimless son who’s got problems. When the aliens arrive, her son gloms on to them — causing tension within the family.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10 p.m. CST


    by kabong

    Family entertainment does not mean that the program must portray a family. <p> The network imbeciles mollify pressure group imbeciles with single mothers and teens in shows that should not be aimed at mothers or children. <p> That's their audience? I'm not in it.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10:09 p.m. CST

    we already have a Sci-FI story of a mother with a troubled teen

    by the podosphere

    on teevee. It's called the Sarah Conner Chronicles. <p> That being said, I hope they go very dark like the Galactica remake and not stupid Gossip Girly like Knight Rider. If you compromise, you wind up with the Bionic Woman redux, and we all know how well THAT turned out.

  • Oct. 10, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST

    To everyone who whines about all the remakes

    by the podosphere

    Some of them - Galactica!!!!! - don't suck. <p> And there area a lot of great original movies and teevee shows out there, many of which - like Dexter - do get some coverage here.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Kenneth Johnson Explained!!!

    by NomeKing

    I work in development for one of the big studios. The problem is we wanted to do a series of HUGE V movies. But Johnson wanted to direct them. He is younger than McCain but not by much. It wasn't gonna happen. Now he went and fucked himself because this show kills his movie. Dumb bastard.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 5:19 a.m. CST

    by Mr_X

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 5:19 a.m. CST

    by Mr_X

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 5:20 a.m. CST

    great news

    by Mr_X


  • Oct. 11, 2008, 6:21 a.m. CST

    "Englund too big a movie star now to return to television."

    by ev1ldead

    *lol* Yeah, Englund is way to big to go the "back to TV-route" like nobodys as Glenn Close, Tim Roth, James Woods, William Hurt, Ray Liotta, Laurence Fishburne or Harvey Keitel.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Non-stop remakes of cheesy 70's and 80's TV shows...

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Does Seth McFarlane run EVERYTHING now?!

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Canada has become too expensive for filming...

    by Leafar the Lost

    ...due to the fact that 90% of television shows (and 100% of Lifetime movies)are filmed there. Hollywood producers are now looking to Mexico as the new destination for filming cheap, shitty looking TV shows and Made for TV Lifetime movies.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST


    by TVguy4566

    I felt in a lot of ways the second mini-series was superior to the first, but I do agree that the human/visitor hybrid child and the ending were very weak. It was definitely a cop out ending.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST


    by TVguy4566

    I think the concept of Johnson's V:Second Generation is actually pretty cool idea, but the execution was terrible. The book was not good. I think you can do a movie on it, but I think it would needed to be improved.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    This could be good

    by bellwether

    However, the original reasons for the Visitor invasion were absurd. Shipping water off Earth is just daft, and shipping people home for food isn't much better. We could just sell them Enceladus and a couple of rabbits, problem solved. Makes more sense just to say they're just a mean bunch of lizard people who conquer planets just for the hell of it. I for one welcome our scaly overlords.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    I Eat Rats And Take Blame

    by TheBoManKicksAssAndTakesBlame

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    V: The Second Generation

    by nyj_et

    Read it back in Feburary and it wasn't bad. I corresponded with Kenneth Johnson via email around the time the original "V" was released on DVD (he left his address at the end of the commentary) I had asked him what his original vision for "V: TFB" was and it was very much like the book. I agree with an earlier TBer that it would've worked much better on the screen, and I believe that was Johnson's intention all along. Too bad no Ham Tyler, though. He was the only good character to come from the post-Johnson "V" stories.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST

    TVGuy... I'm With You

    by DeeJay

    TVGuy... to this day, I still wonder if the silly Starchild ending was something they came up with on the fly. For such a well-organized show (in 80's terms), that was too bad to put into words... though Maniaq probably said it best. The "new" creators were doing pretty good up until that point. Nomeking... if what you write is true, then that would make sense. Johnson's best bet--- if he insisted on directing--- would've been to get a handle of the exact budget he needed, court a cast that would agree to work at scale, and try to raise a large volume of internet micro-financing. It likely would've taken some time to raise the capital, but it would've been possible. At the same time, he could try to work with a comic company (like a Dark Horse) to give his works new exposure--- thereby boosting his own name--- and subsequently push to have some decision-making power on casting and selecting the director. the later strategy would've likely made more sense, as opposed to strong-arming the very studios known for ignoring most parties that try to strong-arm them.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    You knew V the tv series was going to hell

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    when the Visitors talked, and they didn't have that funky voice modulation thing going.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 6:23 p.m. CST

    I killed Journeyman!

    by TVGuy Returns

    Hey all, we just finished two years as a Nielsen family. I killed all your favorite shows! Feel free to ask any Nielsen-related questions.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Faye Grant was fantastic

    by Darth Busey

    in "Internal Affairs". Stephen Collins was a lucky guy.

  • Oct. 11, 2008, 9:03 p.m. CST

    that theme song

    by Gungan Slayer

    Damn, so badass. Really digging it.

  • Oct. 12, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    This time they're just buying up land rights over aquifers

    by BrandLoyalist

    You know, like T. Boone Pickens and other water rights land grabbers. These cold-blooded lizard people say they're our friends, but they've got secret plans to feed on humanity and steal its resources. Who needs to pump water up into spaceships when you can just price it right out of reach? Then there was a that leaked Youtube video of Pickens unhinging his jaw to swallow a live guinea pig.