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‘They'd Written A Whole Different Movie!!’ Bill Murray Talks About Why GHOSTBUSTERS III Never Happened, Though It May Still!!
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Apparently there was a much better “Ghostbusters II” idea that was nothing like the “Ghostbusters II” we saw in cinemas. And a bait-and-switch that apparently soured Bill Murray on the whole franchise for two decades.
From a SciFiWire report:
"We did a sequel, and it was sort of rather unsatisfying for me, because the first one to me was the goods," Murray said. "It was the real thing. And the sequel, you know, was ... it was a few years later. There was an idea pitched. And it was like, well, they got us all together in a room. We just laughed for a couple of hours. And then they said, 'What if we did another one? Here's an idea.'"
Murray added, "So they had this idea, but it didn't turn out to be the idea when I arrived on the set. They'd written a whole different movie than the one [initially discussed]. And the special-effects guys got it and got their hands on it. And it was just not the same movie. There were a few great scenes in it, but it wasn't the same movie. So there's never been an interest in a third Ghostbusters because the second one was kind of disappointing ... for me, anyway."
“The third one could happen,” Murray now says, but he also points out he has nothing to do with “III” so far, and has not seen any of the script currently being penned by Harold Ramis associates Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky (NBC’s “The Office”).
Just how did “Ghostbusters II” change and why? It’s a question someone might pose to Ramis when he starts promoting his new Jack Black comedy next summer.
Find all of SciFi’s story on the matter here.
Murray added, "So they had this idea, but it didn't turn out to be the idea when I arrived on the set. They'd written a whole different movie than the one [initially discussed]. And the special-effects guys got it and got their hands on it. And it was just not the same movie. There were a few great scenes in it, but it wasn't the same movie. So there's never been an interest in a third Ghostbusters because the second one was kind of disappointing ... for me, anyway."
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Ghostbusters II is crap rolled up in a flower tortilla and sold to the public as an original concept when all it was..... Who the fuck cares!! It was a piece of shit film and I still am waiting to be refunded my money and given my 2 hours back that I'm going to need when I'm on my death bed. Fuck all of you for not allowing me to watch The Road Warrior one last time because of that!!!!!!!!!!
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And yes it was disappointing. I'd love another Ghostbusters movie, but it's too late. It would be sad and pathetic.
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When I was a kid we only had the one, so that was the one I saw the most. So for that reason GHOSTBUSTERS II is a little closer to my heart.
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an extremely hollow movie. When people complain about lame money-grabbing sequels, this is the perfect example. A third one could still work. Look at Die Hard 4, that wasn't too bad.
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when he's frozen, and he talks about San Fernando valley...THAT is hilarious every time...I wonder what the original idea was. it had to have had SOME of the original elements of their idea. they couldn't have switched it entirely and not told him. maybe the slime idea was there, but not Vigo? or the other way around?he is VIGO!!
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Yeah cause that wasn't a hallow money-grabbing POS at all.
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Anybody else agree?
It's like he's more of a supporting character than one of the ensemble.
Maybe Murray didn't fancy being covered in that stupid "evil ooze".
Some of GB2 is still class though. -
the one that ties in with the game. and the action figures. and the toy guns. and the glow in the dark slime. and the cereal. and so forth and so on...
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it had a dancing toaster, a walking statue of liberty, an evil painting, Louis and Janine screwing around in Dana's apartment, Cheech saying the funniest line in the whole movie, Peter MacNicol...yeah you're right, it kinda sucked. But it did have some really good music.
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apparently "The Ghosbusters are Dead." I also remember the first time I ever heard about the sequel was during some entertainment news report and the title they gave for the sequel was also "Ghosbusters are Dead" or something to close to that. Would have been a far more interesting way to go for a sequel but I guarantee someone got cold feet at the idea of killing them off and having them be ghosts or something so a new script was written at the last minute resulting in a rehash of the first film beat for beat.
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Misread your screen name there for a moment.
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i know a bunch of no-talent actors who worship at the alter of this shit-fest, thinking this is the funniest movie of all time...
they'll be working at taco bell for a very long time... -
The actual working title for part II was "The Last of the Ghostbusters." Which doesn't make since considering the final film, but does if you apply it to the "Ghosbusters are dead" premise that working title may have originally sprang from.
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The New York-as-Hell premise was for a Aykroyd/Ramis-penned "Ghostbusters III" script that never made it to screen.
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I just watched this the other night actually. Remember how awesome the cartoon was, so they wrote Slimer into those small camoes in part II? But it isn't a hair on the ass of the first one. I'm really curious to know what the original script was!
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Had ghostbusters being like cops, bunches of crews at bunches of stations, Reitman decided it'd be more interesting (and budget feasable) to focus on the Ghostbusters "origin story," but that premise seems like it'd be a good next logical step, and away to avoid the rehash syndrome of so many sequels.
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If you wanna be like that, go ahead. But, what sequel isn't a hollow money-grabbing exercise then? Considering DH4 was a 3rd sequel, I found it surprisingly entertaining. I loved how McClane was so tired and jaded, that people trying to kill him kinda turned him on a little. Bruce was quite good in it. I loved that he just didn't give a fuck any more, and did what he had to do. DH4 is a hell of a lot better that the stinking pile of shit known as Ghostbusters II.
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a pretty bad move. No doubt about it. It seems like a complete shit fest because the first one was so great. It's too bad.
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I like the second one, I do, but I'll buy that the original idea was better(I mean it DID rehash allot from the first I'll admit) anyway I'd love to have a script of it (then again I'd love to have the original script of the first)
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"You have a weak electrochemical bond!" C'mon, that's classic.
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It's not as well-constructed as Ghostbusters, but shit? Really? The Dana-Venkman stuff has as much heart as anything in the first film, and Vigo's a terrific antagonist.
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Oct 06, 2008 3:13:16 AM CDT
Viggy Viggy Viggy! Somebodys been a bad monkey!
by judge dredds fresh undies
Two in the box, ready to go, we be fast and they be slow!
GB 2 is no classic like the first one but I still enjoy it. I can't imagine a 3rd one being better. -
Was not that bad! Not as good as GB1 but it wasn't the train wreck some of you go on about. But then again, some of you like to complain for complains sake. I sometimes wonder if you actually enjoy movies or if you enjoy bitching about movies.
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“Be gone, you pitiful half-men!”
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What the superfuck?
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Dude, you missed Aliens off your list!!!!
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since I've seen GBII I don't know if I can properly comment on it, however back in the late 90s that showed it all the time on Comedy Central (along with Airheads) so I watched it alot and while it doesn't hold anyway near as good as GBI, it has it's momentsand while I can understand Murrary being mad, I have to ask, he didn't get a look at the script until he was on set? really?
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Jewel of the Nile? Dude, that totally sucked.
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Fuck that assertion SOOO much. Grumpier Old Men isn't better than Pineapple Express, Speed Racer, In Bruges, The Signal, Tropic Thunder, Appaloosa, The Wackness, Hamlet 2, Hellboy 2, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, The Incredible Hulk, Vicky Cristina Barcelona, shall I go on? For crissakes, Cloverfield is better than fucking Grumpier Old Men. Seriously?
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"Boy did you back the wrong horse, would you hose him please"?
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Great sequel IMO.
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wasn't there an article on this site like a week ago that said the exact same thing?
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And Grumpier Old Men is better than The Odd Couple 2. And Out to Sea.
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Never mind.
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hmmm.... well I guess they could always get David Duchovny right?
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You forgot possibly the best sequel ever IMO. (One that actually by far topped the original in every aspect.) Just thought I'd let you know, but hey, maybe you didn't like it as a sequel.
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I always hated that bitch. Good writer, terrible opinions.
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Ghostbusters was the only movie I'd ever seen twice in a theater.
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...and I'm still happy with the first one. Don't need another money-grabbing sequel. Maybe they can bring back from the dead Forrest Tucker to reunite with Larry Storch and that gorilla?
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Seriously.
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That shouldn't be on a list of greatest anything. There are two great moments (Abe and Hellboy singing; Liz staring down an angry mob and standing by Hellboy), but the rest is just ridiculous and a fine example of giving a director too much leeway.
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Not sure if Yackbacker was having a go at it or not but thought I'd throw that out there. And I agree that if Krack thought Jewel of the Nile and Grumpier Old Men were better than WALL-E or a good handful of other great films this year then he either hasn't seen them or has very, very odd film tastes.As for Ghostbusters II - it's alright. Has it's moments but I enjoye dit more as a child than an adult, whereas it's the other way round with the first. The evil Nanny ghost freaked me out as a child so it gets kudos for that.
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How bout aintitold news. Dude Harry you used to break news now your just a loser that links other sites. You posted Tit Girl on time but waited for 1 week for this.
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People act like the original had some big meaning behind it or something. Yeah it was great, but the second was just as enjoyable.
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Dude, you just gave me a nostalgia headache. I'd forgotten all about that crazy fuckin' show.
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http://tinyurl.com/53utg6
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Read that list again.
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"Money grabbing sequel." C'mon! All movies (all studio movies) are made for one reason (not for masturbatory reasons, not for artistic reasons...at least for the studios, themselves): MONEY! If you wanna say GB3 is all about making money, go ahead. You're right. But, don't stop there, go into every tb and say "Just another money-grabber!" Of fucking course! Doesn't mean it can't be good, doesn't necessarily mean the people making it won't be taking it seriously with the hopes of making a good movie. Yes, sometimes studios assume a movie will make money and throw out shit (90% of cgi movies, as an example). But, let's suspend judgment until we, I dunno, get a script or even a storyline.
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...if the original team was together?...I think Ghostbusters is one of the few movies in the history of time that would kick ass if given the "Grumpy Old" treatment...
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Flawed and goofy at times but the cast keeps it together and the film is good fun. By the time they rolled out a sequel, the GB name had become something as much for kids as adults (i.e. The Real Ghostbusters cartoon) which explains decisions like Slimer being a good guy but overall I still really enjoyed it. Also, they need to do a Special Edition version and insert a digital DiCaprio slushing his way off the Titanic.
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Oct 06, 2008 9:22:16 AM CDT
When are the next Phil Collins or Don Henley albums coming out?
by margot_tenenbaum
I hope that ass Aykroyd slips more lines about evil federal regulators into the script for part III. REAGAN RULES. MONDALE DROOLS.
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I think he just doesn't want a fan backlash for feeling that he is now 'above Ghostbusters' because he's making 'arthouse' movies now. So he's trying to make it look like he was the one guy in the room who hated GBII when it was being made, and that he's not going to be in any GBIII because he's making a stand as our Geek King.
Please - the fact of the matter is that (a) the budget cannot afford him and (b) he thinks a GBIII is beneath him now. -
...that waaaaay back (in the 80's), Eddie Murphy was supposedly in talks to be in a part II or III?
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WTF man
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You know it.
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Egon!"
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it always bothered/confused me that slimer was friendly on the cartoon, yet was evil in the original movie. oh, and that they killed the marshmallow man. he seemed like fun. that is all.
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They said it was on the way, and that the idea would be for the "franchise" rights of Ghostbusters Inc. to lure in a new crew who would work with the old crew in a trail-by-fire "training mission gone wrong" (IIRC).
The best part was WHO they said the new Ghostbusters were: Chris Rock, Chris Farley, Adam Sandler, and Eddie Murphy.
I THINK that was the list.
Now remember, this was a couple years before Farley died, when Eddie Murphy was still somewhat relevant and Adam Sandler was just getting big.
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As I said in my previous post, Eddie Murphy was one of the people being talked about for GB3.
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Wholy shit I loved those movies back in the day. Totally forgot about those...
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Its funny how the Titanic is in one piece in that movie, of course thats because back then they still didnt know it was in two pieces for sure. But maybe if they ever made some sorta special edition, they can digitally fix it and have it be in two pieces to be more acurate. or just have one piece docked and dicaprio come running out looking for winslet and the cheech marin goes "sorry man, rose's not here"
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but there's something wrong with me. The baby cracks me up. When Bill Murray is telling him what a burden he is on his mom and all that, the kid is looking at him like 'wtf? lay off!' lol. I think maybe the problem was the painting. It's not as scary as a giant flaming eye ball or some other remnant of evil.
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You are like the buzzing of flies to heeem!
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They might not have known for a fact that the Titanic lay at the bottom in two pieces (in actuality, a shitload more), but from eye witness accounts the consensus was pretty much that the Titanic broke up before plunging. Even if you didn't believe that it snapped before the dive, you know for a FACT that it is not sail-worthy because, after all, it did sink after all, right?
I have no problem with the scene. It's called "artistic license" and I thought it was pretty funny. :) -
;) Editing is my friend.
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...but I straightened it.
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Oct 06, 2008 2:10:44 PM CDT
have Ghostbusters 3 start on the set of Ghostbusters 2...
by the ghost of marcus brody
and make it seem as if 2 was a dull hollywood inspired movie based on the original events of the first film. 3 must be about the original ghotbusters and NYC. A new cast and heavy cgi will destroy the new movie.
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I didn't mind the idea of Vigo but the negativity slime was total bullshit. And the Statue of Liberty was a poor attempt to recreate the Stay Puft marshmallow man and didn't come anywhere close. I'd peep a GB3 if the trailer rocked.
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Ghostbusters 2 purely works becuase you get to spend more time with the characters you loved spending time with the first time round. Is it as good? Well it mostly suffers because it lacks the freshness and originality. But as a continuation it's a very enjoyable sequel. And it's a shame that Bill Murray doesn't defend it a little more. It's like when Stallone laid into Rocky 5 a lot during the press for Rocky Balboa. I mean, it's not THAT bad. I'm all for actors/film-makers to admit to shite work, but neither Ghostbusters 2 nor Rocky 5 is shite. That's not to say that they are any sort of paragon of film-making but they ARE both decent watchable films that have a charm that a lot of films lack nowadays.
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Paramus?
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I think he was supposed to be a "junior" Ghostbuster along with Farley. That would've been fun.
I think my favourite part of GBII was when three of them are walking below the streets and having fun shouting and listening to their echoes . . . you know the part I mean . . . when Winston doesn't get an echo, just a deep, evil-sounding "Wiinnnnnn-stonnnnnn" coming out of the black. I always wondered how the evil spirit knew his name. I liked that movie, I really did.
If Murray only wants to do arthouse movies now, why not scrap Aykroyd, Ramis and Hudson and bring in Day-Lewis, Hopkins and Bardem as "new" Ghostbusters? -
Adams Family Values.
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...made to look like a room at the Holiday Inn. I can't be sure about that, Peter.
Of course not! And that is the whole problem with aliens, you just can't trust them. Occasionally you meet a nice one. Starman, E.T. But most of the time they turn out to be some kind of big lizard! -
for my final judgement, but the footage I've seen so far is pretty cool.
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Ghostbusters 2 was the ultimate "just ok" easily forgettable flick that happened to be a sequel to one of the best and most rewatchable comedies of all time. GREMLINS 2 however...was the ultimate sequel...rather than being a straight sequel is a deliberate send up and flat out parody of the original. Once I accepted that part of the way in on first viewing, I settled down, laughed my ass off and LOVED GREMLINS 2.
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turned down the role of Winston for the first Ghostbusters and tried to get them to take his special friend Arsenio Hall for the role. They of course gave the role to Ernie Hudson.
Ernie Hudson auditioned for the Winston role in The Real Ghostbusters cartoon and was rejected, the role went to Arsenio Hall.
Eddie refuses to take second billing; in one of his standard career moves, he turned down a role in Star Trek IV in favor of The Golden Child. -
Um. Men In Black?
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. . . is how GOOD the cartoon was. How they could strike gold on Saturday morning and then phone it in on the big screen is what made it so damn disappointing.
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Stop defending that steaming pile of crap, you fracking jerkoffs!
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that scene was fucking classic. And, then the train "hits" him. Poor Winston. Love that whole scene.
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I don't believe the ongoing adventures of James Bond are considered sequels, with the exception of Quantum of Solace which was conceived as a continuation of the events that started in Casino Royale.
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I've spent years thinking I hallucinated that about Eddie Murphy. Thanks for the verification :)
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