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Rothman Talks DAREDEVIL Reboot!!
Merrick here...
In an interview with IESB, Fox;'s Tom Rothman discusses the possibility of a DAREDEVIL reboot (a la THE INCREDIBLE HULK).
Tom Rothman: A Daredevil, to use your words, reboot, is something we are thinking very seriously about.
IESB: Soon?
ESB: I have to ask.
TR: You've lost a lot a weight now Robert and you are going to live for a long time, this is the movie business, nothing is soon.
...says THIS REPORT at IESB, which also discusses Rothman's belief that a DAREDEVIL reworking would work best when guided by a director with a genuine vision (a la Christopher Nolan).
Rothman's statements are confounding given Fox's legendary disregard for artistic vision, and frequent interference with/contempt for film maker (Alex Proyas being one example, Mathieu Kassovitz being another).
Ugly and awkward, Mark Steven Johnson's 2003 DAREDEVIL film actually looked like it was made by a blind man...a dubious accomplishment to be sure. Maybe they'll get luckier this time.
Ands, you know I have to say it, I say "Shia" for Matt Murdock!
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Oct. 3, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST
While I don't hate Daredevil as much as other people do...
by DerLanghaarige
...I agree that a reboot would be nice. But no, it doesn't make sense as long as Rothman will be responsible for it.<br> And despite being also cartoonish and silly, Daredevil was already pretty dark and gritty for a movie like that, but people forgot this over their hate for Affleck and Garner and the theatrical cut.
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those glam girls are taller than 4'7"?
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I'm sick of reboot superhero movies. Get them right the fist time.
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Cunt_Style69 more like. We need a Daredevil reboot inline with the new Hulk and Iron Man movies. Fact.
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...this was a good movie. Mark Johnson has the touch that made it good. <p> But, of course, if it's redone as "dark" and "gritty", and if one of its leads kicks the bucket before the shooting wraps, it will be mega-successful. Right, Timmaaay?
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...except for the Elektra's subplot. Had it been removed, it would be a better movie. I also like the costume design.
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Ahh jeez why didn't I think of that name.
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are we going to start rebooting movies every five years or so now? hulk...daredevil..i consider the new punisher a reboot, not a true sequel...jeez marvel...every time you fail, you just try again, but too soon before the stink has worn off from the last one.no one is going to go see a new daredevil movie yet.
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PUT ACTUAL EFFORT INTO THIS TIME. <br><br> ...AND KEEP HALLE BERRY AS FAR AWAY FROM IT AS YOU CAN. <br><br>...AND CAST ANDRE BRAUGHER AS XAVIER.
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is an insult to the C-word.
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heh, he was always my preferred choice. wish he didnt do Incredible Hulk, even though I do really like it. <p> An ironic alternative would be Matt Damon. He's got the Bourne martial Arts technique and look much more the part than Affleck did with his awful artificially messy (and red) hair
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Except for the horrible costumes, the revolting soundtrack, and the shitty CGI. I still like it better than the original Spiderman. It was a good script, and I had no real problems with any of the cast members. I really loved how they did Daredevil vision, but aside from that, Daredevil has always been a character that's been doable with a more practical effects approach.
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Daredevil sucks in the first place. The first film covered the only interesting story material. Why keep rehashing these every couple years (Hulk,Punisher), when they could do some other characters instead? Like Powerman and Iron Fist.
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A blind lawyer who works in the system all day and then abandons it at night so he can dress like satan and dance around beating dudes with batons is stupid. I'm sorry. There's no way to make this premise credible. Isn't there some other videogame or serviette you haven't adapted yet? Just move on to that.
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Someday, maybe audiences will discover how good a Fantastic Four movie can be. Same with Daredevil.
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Though I would have no problem with a reboot, it doesn't matter. Unless Marvel is doing it, I really don't have a high amount of confidence they'll do a great job this time around either.
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What's with all the negative energy?
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I agree He was Miscast but its a fun movie, Some Cool action and Some Cheese. The directors cut makes it even better. Plus Colin Farrel as Bullseye was a inspired choice.
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reboot. Daredevil has a lot of potential as a character and I would love to see a Daredevil film done right, but the last film left such a bad taste in my mouth I don't think I could get up the energy to see another Daredevil film. It's time that they start dong something new with superheroes, because before you know it audiences are going to get tired of the whole formula. What happened to that Green Arrow in the supervillain prison film? That actually sounded interesting. Let's start mixing genres.
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Oct. 3, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST
The only reason DAREDEVIL (2003) might have been any good at all
by qball86
Was because of the Daredevil story elements themselves that were taken from the books. It was if they were dependent on those alone and tried to let the movie make itself. Thank God he never got to make Preacher...
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They should be on movie number 4 by now and still making a billion dollars off the franchise... Jesus tap dancing Christ... X-Men has a wealth of stories and the public loves em... why would they spit out that garbage that was part 3 and say it was the end of a trilogy... fucking retard execs... looking right at you Rothman.
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Of coarse he would never do it,but thats the dream.
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everyone just likes to jump on the Affleck-hatin' bandwagon, but I thought he was fine. Colin Farrell attacked his part with the over-the-top "Nicholson school of comic-book villian acting" style (and I don't mean that in a good way). <P> And the movie didn't exactly cover the best material. That'd be miller's "Born Again" saga. Surely that'd get some audience in to see Meredith Grey doing heroin and porn.
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I liked DD in theatres, but hated moments. Most the moments I hated were fixed with the Director's cut DVD. Helluva lot better then FF, FF2, or X3. And I think Fox COULD make a good DD movie... Remember X2? Pretty damned good considering the studio.
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superhero film. Elektra, X3 and FF1 and 2 were all worse. Still, that's a pretty low bar.
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Oct. 3, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST
I think we will soon see a trailer for the new DD movie...
by DerLanghaarige
...with the words "From the visionary director of Alien Vs. Predator" in it.
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I loved it. Still love it. It's in my top comic book movies. And that means I'm not interested in this reboot thing.
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...and I thought DareDevil actually did it better.
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For God's sake, give Bendis the reins and we'll get an iconic movie that will FINALLY do the character justice. <p> My favourite Marvel character and probably my least favourite film, (aside from Xmen 3)
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Quite simply, Affleck was miscast. Keep DD where he belongs. In a soundproof chamber where he can do no further harm.
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...the whole Elektra vs. Bullseye story was the magnum opus of Daredevil...the comic book hasn't been as good since, though God knows they've tried to copy it or put a new spin on that story a thousand times. I guess they could reboot with the exact same story but I don't think that'd go over. For Chrissake, do "Green Arrow: Supermax." Do "Thor." Do "The Atom" (something based on Simone's work on the last series). Do something on Marvel's cosmic heroes (Starlord/Nova/Quasar, those guys). JUST DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
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The wire-fu bullshit and ham-handed direction sunk that flick. Mark Steven Johnson should be kept the hell away from a camera, period, nervmind another Marvel movie.
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Though, as my father in law always says-"you can't polish a turd". Wise words indeed... ;-)
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WHERE IS MY JAMES CAMERON 'AQUAMAN!'!?!?!?!?!!?
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Not sure how anyone could like the first DD, but to each his own. I am not sure what makes them so hotto do this, as I was not uner the impression DD was huge so beloved. Would much rather see them do some other character whose powers are not CGI intensive: Master of Kung Fu, Iron First, Black Panther. Or the one that would make them dough like a pie sale at fat camp: Black Widow. I can't believe they haven't sussed that one out for themselves.
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The director's cut was infinitely better than the FF movies. And I actually prefer DD over the Spiderman movies as well. The SM movies talked down to it's audience and had too many moments of cheese and teen angst for my tastes. The problem with Daredevil lies in the casting. Garner as a greek assasin? Ben Affleck as a blind bad ass? If the casting has been different, more people who have enjoyed this movie. Unfortunately Mark Steven Johnson is prone to stunt casting. Ghost Rider anyone?
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...even I have to admit that he's a tricky character to work with. From the comics I've read, his stories don't allow for the FX sequences that can suck people into movie-trailers. Sort of like the Punisher. You either need starpower or word of mouth to make even a wonderfully written DD movie into a financial success.<BR><BR>Also, his comic book costume doesn't work (watch this: http://tinyurl.com/3otdrp), and I seem to be one of the only people on Earth who liked his movie-costume.<BR><BR>So a reboot would be appreciated, but I don't have the highest of hopes for it becoming the next Iron Man in terms of success.
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Incredible Hulk, okay. Punisher (though I am not really sure WHAT that movie is- sequel, reboot, whatever), okay. Superman, fine. But Daredevil? Come on. The first one didn't make money. Does that mean we have to see another incarnation? Could it just be that the character is stupid and didn't connect with an audience? Can't we just leave it at that?
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Hey, this might be possible too.
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This time it should star Miley Cyrus and Nick Jonas of the Jonas Brothers. And instead of hitting a boat.... <p>Someone hit me up with a punchline here.
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Its getting annoying.. First it was Eli Roth sploogefest on AICN, now Shia?
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................I got nothing.
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people are way too freakin' picky. it was a decent superhero flcik and far better than the liked of both FF films, X3, Elektra and punisher. people do just hate affleck so much that they will dog this film too.
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Oct. 3, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST
So many other great properties to pick from and they keep reboot
by mrfan
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...even though the acting was flat, the plot confused and the action scenes too CGI'd and ridiculous. Mark Stephen Johnson is a terrible hack, but he does have a love for the characters, and that love did show through all the trash in enough places to make the movie a semi-enjoyable 2 hours.
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How old is Matt Murdock when his father gets killed? Late teens? Early 20s?
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I think Rothman thinks (and rightfully so) that "Daredevil" in the right hands could be as genre bending and provocative as the "The Dark Knight" was. Both characters have been pushed into the shadows so to speak and their best story lines have a since of depth the average comic book character can't match. So yeah a good director with a good screenplay would be great. Just not now or at least theatrically as far as I am concerned. Showtime? HBO? I have HBO and would sign up for Showtime for a good Daredevil series.
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You're right. Daredevil did look like it was directed by a blind man. That was funny. <p> Anyhoo, we all know Fox is just trying to cash in on the Dark Knight trend. Useless fuckers.
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Remove the quick origin rehash during the opening credits of Incredible Hulk, and keep the cast from the original and it would have worked as a sequel. It basically picked up where the first one left off anyway. Have a third one with The Leader and be done with it. Now you've got two flopped origins. Oh, and how can X3, FF & FF2 keep cropping up on everyone's hate list, yet Spiderman 3 (the worst superhero movie ever) get's a pass?
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as a stunt double - much better than wire work and dodgy CG
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That's my call. Hell yes reboot it.
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I'm all for a reboot, though. I'd pick Sam Mendes as director, and Josh Brolin as Matt Murdock/Daredevil.
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They wanted Kevin Smith to do Daredevil, and he pitched Affleck in the role. He should have pitched Damon. That being said, the movie wasn't horrible, and the Director's Cut is pretty decent. That and Jennifer Garner is very hot in that movie. That is all.
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yeah that could work, DD showed up in The Incredible Hulk TV show and that was ok (for it's time it was great). Just aslong as they don't cast anyone formerly associated with The OC, Smallville or Dallas!
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I enjoyed seeing a superhero movie where the hero popped pills, had sex, killed people, and was generally kind of fucked up. Affleck and Garner weren't awful so much as they were miscast. Affleck's too bulky to be jumping off of rooftops. And Garner's too sunny to play Elektra. I wouldn't mind seeing a reboot if they got Scorsese to direct it...that's not such a crazy idea considering that he's perfect for the material - tortured catholic fallible hero - and that Scorsese's last couple of films have been somewhat comic book-esque (especially Gangs of New York and The Departed)
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I mentioned Spiderman Kevin Mayle. Matter of fact I think the whole Trilogy is a bit overrated. Spiderman constantly crying. Dunst. All of the cheese injected into the movie. The elevator scene in 2. What was the point of that? Parker's Russian neighbors...they served no purpose or advanced the story in any way. The asian chick strumming the cartoon theme. Why all the moments of stupdidity? I prefer popping in the Daredevil blu ray over the spiderman films. Matter of fact I think I'm going to ebay my spiderman blu ray trilogy. What do u think of that?
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Man that would be like Cameron doing Spiderman
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Or Spielberg doing SUPERMAN, which nearly did happen I read once!!
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Proyas did a decent job with that material. How about a "Born Again" storyline with Frank Miller as "consultant". That way no origin story (a quick run through via flashback). And oh yea, very little studio intervention.
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Because Donners Superman is genius. No need to fantasise about a change of director there! But Camerons Spiderman was a missed opportunity. I read his story treatment and it was awesome. F'ing legal shite! Also, Fincher got close to doing Spiderman. That could have been awesome as well. But enough of the woulda/shoulda... I NEED JIM CAMERONS AQUAMAN! DAMN YOU ARI GOLD! GET ME VINCE!
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Get out there and one-up Warners' highfalutin superhero movies. David Strathairn as Daredevil. Julianne Moore as Elektra. Robert Duvall as Bullseye. Sidney Poitier as Kingpin. Written and directed by the team of John Sayles and Jim Jarmusch. Music by Phillip Glass, performed by Bela Fleck and Yo-Yo Ma. Shoot the whole thing black and white in pantomime. Ooh! Everyone in geisha costumes!
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Oct. 3, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST
There are certain good comic characters that work in a live acti
by Orbots Commander
Daredevil isn't one of them. The Elektra vs. Daredevil storyline is the only good one; DD doesn't have a much of a rogues gallery aside from the Kingpin; and the character often comes off either like a second rate Spider-Man or Batman clone. If Fox wanted a reboot that would bring in Hundreds of Millions worldwide, they should concentrate on The Fantastic Four. Rothman could get on his knees and plead Robert Zemeckis to do it and BLAM, instant franchise super-success. And Zemeckis has enough clout and money of his own that no studio can push him around.
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Oct. 3, 2008, 10:55 a.m. CST
Subject line should read: "in a live action movie".
by Orbots Commander
Oops.
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I actually liked it more than the First and third Spider-mans, certainly more than X3. The costuming could've been better, but I dug the shit out of that movie.
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That would be AMAZING. But i think rebooting is stoo-pid.
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It was also a hit! And pretty much launched Evanescence's career. Affleck and Garner were both good and the suit and fx were well done. They really screwed up and lost momentum by not following up with a sequel by '05 or '06. This is good news though.
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Rothman wants a director with "genuine vision" like Christopher Nolan? you mean a guy like Bryan Singer whom they let slip through their fingers? i'm calling shenanigans. Rothman has never been about hiring directors with vision, he's always been about hiring directors who are easily manipulated so the studio can micromanage the production and screwing over visionary guys like Singer and Alex Proyas. Rothman doesn't give a shit about vision, he only cares about making a movie with as little money as possible while trying to maximize box office earnings. i'm sure studios want to save money, but you gotta spend money to make money, not drastically cut budgets and wrestle a production away from talented filmmaker in an effort to pinch pennies. Rothman has the serpent's tongue, you can't trust anything that comes out of his mouth.
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Sometimes you only get one chance for a reason.
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he can certainly handle the physicality of the role as we've seen in the Bourne movies, and is a much better actor than Affleck as we've seen in The Departed. i could see a Scorsese-helmed Daredevil if they can capture a Taxi Driver dark-and-gritty feel to it. the question is whether he'd be interested and is willing to put up with Fox.
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Daredevil is not a very interesting character to begin with and the first film sucked...they won't blow money on this when they can put it into a better character with more exotic powers. The only other possibility is that they could do it with a VERY low budget with subpar effects and try to make an easy buck on the geeks who will still buy the DVD.
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right? These are dark and gritty times we are living in. Mmmmm, grits.
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I am so weary of these FUCKING reboots. Get it right the first time, shitheads.
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I hated the first DAREDEVIL, too much hanky panky with Jennifer Garner, a campy Bullsye, a flaccid Ben Affleck who lacked gravitas - make a straight, serious flick with a Guy Pierce - a big budget LONGSTREET so to speak.
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How about having the guy who re-invented Daredevil re-invent Daredevil?
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Yeah, nice. BTW, does anyone know if "Longstreet" will have a DVD release anytime soon? I want those Bruce Lee episodes!
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There were scenes lifted wholesale from his first DD run...Bullseye v. Elektra, Daredevil #181, special double-size ish. One lives...one dies
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and into other properties. Who wouldn't love a Sgt. Rock or Jonah Hex film. They're also properties that work better with a darker take. Sorry, but most comic book characters are always going to be a little campy. Batman is the exception, and even in his case a lot had to be changed for him to be taken completely seriously on screen. Of course, I don't mind a little humor and camp in my superhero films if it's done right. Too bad just about no one knows how to balance real characters in a cartoon world (Raimi is the exception).
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... y'all know it, I know it, everyone knows it!<br><br>Fear The Beef!
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For years we've been wanting Hollywood to bring our favorite comics to life and finally they are doing just that. BUT the risk lies in how they will handle YOUR favorite comic. ("your" in the universal sense) For every FF, DD & X3, there comes a "Dark Knight". I'm just fortunate to have Batman as my favorite superhero. Long story short: Be careful what you wish for.
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Not gonna turn on it just because it's cool to hate it. It was very Frank Miller, as someone else mentioned.
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Oh and a new director, a better script, to have the rights revert back to Marvel for them to make it, and well… How ‘bout just don’t give us a new origin story? It was established well enough last time around. Was it “The Man Without Fear” origin, no, but close enough. Just make a good new story and don’t acknowledge the last one. It’s not so hard. FF on the other hand deserves a reboot – By Marvel. Screw that. I honestly don’t give a shit about FF, never got into the book growing up, but what Tim Story and Fox did to Dr. Doom and Galactus deserves a reboot alone. How in the holy blue fuck do you fuck up Dr. Doom? Honestly? Watching FF makes me physically ill to see the flat assed actor from Nip/Tuck as Doom. “After all we’re both Doctors.” RRRAAAHHHH!! I fucking hate that so much! Don't even get me started again about the fucking cloud.
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OK, so young Matt Murdock cries like a little bitch & runs into a vat of chemical waste...then knows kung-fu. Terrible.
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That kid looks like he could'nt fight his way out of a wet paper bag. DAREDEVIL needs an EPIC director like COPPOLA or SCORSESE for this important peice of pop culture. It should be placed in the real world, gritty and dirty, where blind guys wear tights in speak about their great angst. Remember: This is DAREDEVIL! Think SHAKESPEAR on steroids. Its has to show the reality of living with blindness but not really being blind cause you got sonar or something like that and you've sewn this ultra cool skin tight outfit together because it terrifies bad guys to see men in tights. It needs to dwell deep into the mythos, make it real...show him struggling to strip out of his tights to take a big crap in some dingy alley, then have the villian attack and show DAREDEVIL climbing up the wall with his tights hanging around his ankles and a big tail hanging out his lilly white but. Gritty. Real. Like Nolans BATMAN. DAREDEVIL: THE MAN WHO DARED TO WEAR RED TIGHTS.
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it was made for 78 million. and made 103 domestic and 77 foreign. I'd say thats grounds to try again. and for fucks sake, show how he learns all the martial arts shit, are we to expect he just figured it out?!?! how about the killer apartment he lives in with all the tricks and shit?!?!!? AND WHY CAN HE JUMP 20 FEET INTO THE AIR?!?! god damnit that movie sucked...yet i own it on DVD...im part of the problem.
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Is that too much to ask? Can we see a modern post Crisis Superman? And not the "Death of Superman" shit I wince every time someone brings up a film version of that half assed bloated piece of shit story line. The only way that would work is if they have established a film DC Universe and you see the other characters reactions to his death that was the only good part of the original story anyway. I want Lex the evil genius/industrialist, Lois the hot no shit reporter who knows Clark is Kal-El because she’s not fucking stupid, And Supes to actually fight a goddamn super villain in the vein of Brainiac or Darkseid. And as much as I liked Routhe; a cast with a minimum age of 35 to pull off the gravitas of the characters and not make me feel like I’m watching a recast of fucking Smallville. All right I’m done.
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i need air.
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Then again I didn't like DD 03 that much overall. And of all the people they could have chosen to play Stick in Electra....Stamp? I kept expecting to hear "Kneel before Zod!" God I wish I had, it would have been the only memorable thing abou that flaming turd... pick on DD all you want, but I cannot and have not watched Electra all the way through... like the first FF I cannot physically make myself sit there and watch it. Fucking awful.
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And anybody but Jen Affleck as Elektra...
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is that it begat Elektra*, which inadvertantly begat Ghost Rider. * the first scence of Elektra was brilliant and then it quickly went to dogshit!
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Marvel needs to get all of their properties back. With the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man, they are batting two for two. As long as a hack studio like Fox owns these properties all we are going to get is watered down marvel movies. And yes..buy Spiderman back from sony. Those movies are not that good either. I never was on that Raimi bandwagon. The cast in SM is lousy, the humor horrible, and the script mediocre.
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His hyperreal style of directing might be suitable for a film like Daredevil that requires action from Matt Murdock's alternate point of view...
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What are you doing in a movie site..? Recommending Shia LaBeouf, my god(s).. :rolleyes:
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Says he's a fan, says he loves this stuff, if he really loved it he'd stay the fuck away from it. Can he not step back and see that he has hurt the genre itself with his shit? Like Gooche said' "DD begat Elektra*, which inadvertantly begat Ghost Rider." I mean let's be honest the only really good thing the guy did was to help script the Grumpy Old Men flicks and I'm sure that he was only there to bring in local color since he's a native Minnesotan(ian), those thing floated solely by Matthau and Lemmon anyway. DD w/o Stick. Elektra w/o a real Elektra. Ghost Rider with jelly-bean Johnny Blaze, and that God awful cliche goth/emo Blackheart. Please Mr. Johnson enjoy the genre, as we all do, but just don't feel you need to personally involve yourself in it.
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cheap watered down spiderman knockoff
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Nobody but me ever comments on it- but I'll say it again and see if anyone but me even picked up on it. The dude, Daredevil, is blind. Yet, on the rooftop fight with Elektra, there are a bunch of clothes lines with clothing on it, and Matt frigging Murdock, BLIND, superhero is LOOKING for her. Not listening for her, but actually moving aside the clothes and towels and such on the clothesline trying to find her. This is garbage! How can ANYONE give this movie a pass??
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fuck a reboot it didnt work with The Incredible Hulk and its not gonna work with Daredevil.
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How about rebooting Reboot dammit!
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With the only internet pundit who will talk to him, Robert Sanchez. I thought I was being paranoid about IESB being a mouthpiece for Rothman, turns out it's true. Also "You've lost a lot a weight now Robert and you are going to live for a long time, this is the movie business, nothing is soon" that's the weirdest thing I've heard said in an interview in a long time. That's proper David Lynch shit.
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Yea it wasn't perfect, but the film was watchable, and the director's cut more than made up for the theatrical. Bring back Affleck and let him do a sequel to DD. Oh yea the norton/hulk reboot, sequel, whatever it was... yea... no... just no.
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Angelina Jolie as Elektra, Kiefer Sutherland as Bullseye. Not sure about Foggy or Murdock.
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He is so overused right now and not superhero material. Except maybe Superboy Prime!! And the best part of Daredevil was when he would get home and CHEW on Vicodin and go to sleep in a deprivation tank, AWESOME!
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why not
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Nobody but me noticed that scene...
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Actually, Caviezel should play almost every character from Green Lantern, Superman to Lone Ranger
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Did you notice that the blind superhero was moving aside the clothes on the clothes line and peering around the towels to LOOK for Elektra during the rooftop fight. That's why I hate the movie.
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I have seen no promise from you sir. None whatsoever. Please stop making films.
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was actually really good as Bullseye. Does anybody else agree with that? And please, make somebody else Kingpin. And make him BIG. That's all I want. A BIG ASS Kingpin in the next Daredevil movie
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Think about it. Isn't "reboot" an awful word for anything? When your crappy computer freezes up...REBOOT. It has a negative connotation to it, and for a movie implies that you screwed up. Above all else, I hate re-casting actors. Unless an actor is dead, and you must go on with that character, it should never be done. Screw everyone who has left a show/movie because they have a change of heart. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy Michael Keaton in "Jackie Brown", but I still hold a grudge for having to watch Val and George in a bat-suit. Katie Holmes? Why did you bother coming out for the love interest in the beginning of a new franchise? Did she know Nolan wanted to have Joker do some damage the next time out? Honestly, I find joy in almost every comic based movie, to see heroes brought to life. I like that "Daredevil" or "The Dark Knight" can be adult and dark, while "Iron Man" or "Fantastic Four" can be fun and loud. But don't re-cast the characters and "start again" when it's not necessary. As many have said here already, do a different story for crying out loud! There are tons! BTW- DD is my fav comic title and I loved the movie. I shat a bird when they cast Affleck, but I really thought he did great! Considering 2003 was early days for Marvel movies, it was pretty damn cool at the time...and I find it holds up well today. I admit to being biased for DD, but I also think that would make me a tougher critic.
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it's far more modern and dramatic for any of the other stuff.<p>And boy is it good. I mean, Jesus
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I think Ben Affleck did a "pretty good job" as Daredevil. Yep, he did a "pretty good job". I always think he does a "pretty good job" in any Ben Affleck film. That's why I go out of my way to actually pay good money to see a new "Ben Affleck film". Because he does a "pretty good job".
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from the movie business and just never come back. Joel Silver can join him as well. Not to mention countless others...
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Blame bad direction because Johnson's an equal hack to Ratner, and acting because Affleck...well he's Ben Affleck, he's used to just standing there rebounding lines while Matt Damon does all the work, but in his defence the man can write and Gone baby Gone proved he can direct too. hell maybe we should give him a crack at DD behind the camera.
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and stay true the source material like Iron Man and Hulk and this could be great!
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have been the Xmen movies..yes even three is passable...The Incredible Hulk and Iron Man. DD is passable but ultimately forgettable as is the Spiderman trilogy. Let's not even mention Elektra Fantastic Four or Ghost Rider. Bort Bort Bort
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Other actors who were born to play DAREDEVIL: Sir Lawrence Olivia. Sir Richard Burton. Daniel Day Lewis. James Dean. Dame Judy Dench. Judy Garland. Russel Crow. Al Pacino. Robert Deniro. Anybody with a last name of Barrymore or Rothschild. Semore Hoffman. Sir Richard Pumpaloaf. Merrel Streep. Paul Ruebens. Anyone of the Jonas Brothers. Richard Simmons. Gene Simmons. John McCain (He is a War hero and as such has the gravitas to play DAREDEVIL even if he is not an actor). Dakota Fanning. Little Richard. Issac Newton. Charlton Heston ("I'm blind, you damn dirty bastards...") Jean Claud Van Damm or Steven Seagal-either. Freddy Prinz Jr. Clint Eastwood.
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Cause the HULK looked exactly liked the first movie, biatches! A SHREK-LIKE CGI cartoon.
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Yong Matt Murdock goes off to some god forsaken place to train with his mentor Stick at some ninja hide away atop some snowy mountain, then goes home and saves the city from those same ninjas who trained him.
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As I recall, Daredevil made respectable money. Is this because Fox has seen that reboots are a marketable trend, with Hulk and Batman? Guys. Really.
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that is all.
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I didn't mind DD at all, and the director's cut was better. I think Affleck did fine. Like some others have been saying, it was the Electra storyline and the Electra casting which was the weakness for me. I thought Garner was horribly miscast, and that it was too soon to do that storyline. I'd like to think they can do a good Daredevil with less cgi, but I don't trust Rothman to make a decent music video without fucking it up, so not much faith there, especially after the FF shit sandwich.
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How's about Michael Biehn as Matt Murdock?
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Because movie Spidey needs Daredevil in his life.
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Paul Bettany would nail both characters: Murdoch is a slight ineffectual man who uses intellect to win the day where as Daredevil is a vicious bastard who has no problems with hospitalisng people. Also they havent figured a good way to have Daredevil fight on screen. Daredevil uses the environment has a weapon has much has his abilities. A good example is the old school Jackis chan Sammo hung movies where they used EVERYTHING in a fight including kitchen sinks. Thats how Daredevil fights!!
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in Speed Racer -- might look the part as least.
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...for Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist (the critics are going nuts over it, by the way) and realized Michael Cera would make a friggin' great Peter Parker if Marvel ever wrestled the Spider-Man property away from Sony.
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Have to agree with Gavin about havin Mila Jovovich play Electra, and the the other recomendation of Guy Pierce for DD. Stathom as Bullseye, Bryan Cranston as Ben Urick, and keep Favreou as Foggy
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As some earlier commentors said I actually enjoyed the first Daredevil. The rare comic book movie that played with comic book rules. Everyone who had the chance took off Daredevils mask when they could, which makes sense because that is what people would do. Also loved it when Daredevil didn't go chasing after the criminals and instead got it on with Electra (seemed more real to me). But I hate Spiderman One where the Green Goblin has Spidey knocked out for HOURS and does nothing to him and people love that movie while I literally cannot be in the same room if it is on. So who am I to talk.
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Ask him how he feels about cats sometime, and you'll also come to know that he's one mentally deranged piece of shit to boot.
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I second Mila Jovovich for Elektra! <p> http://www.veidt.com/?p=175
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Daredevil was good. As good as the Miller stuff? No. But bear in mind that said Miller stuff occured a LONG time after the material had started. I don't mind a reboot, but I'd like it to be an unofficial sequel - in other words, the original happened so we don't have to go through the origin story again. Tell a good story about how Matt's been DD for a while: heck, just do a loose adaptation of 'Born Again', with Matthew losing everything due to The Kingpin.
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Oct. 3, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST
I consider myself to have pretty good taste in movies...
by DanielKurland
But I enjoyed Daredevil. Bare in mind, I only saw it once, when it came out, however many years ago that was, and I was a lot younger then.
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Spider-Man has huge logic gaps, and the Goblin is pretty awful (why Dafoe, why?), but it was a younger time when people routinely fucked up comic-book flicks.
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where there are so many better things to make a movie about, Hollywood chooses to reboot movies that are less than 20 years old. When will the world ever tire of comic book storylines and reboots of less than interesting to begin with material. Really, I have no tangible hate for comic plots, but we are edging closer to the point of ridiculousnessosity. Isn't there a Heinlein novel that hasn't been done? John Carter on Mars is just waiting. How about the studios READING some of the unsolicited scripts that come in and just seeing if some unknown has the NEXT BIG IDEA. Nah, let's just do Huckleberry Hound: The Movie.
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He ruined X-Men 3 with his interference. (and Superman Returns, by default when Singer left X3 to do that film instead.) He's a no-nothing suit that only sees dollar signs, not art...
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Or maybe the Wachowskis. With the fight scenes from "Kill Bill" and "The Matrix" in mind, I think either party would be good for Daredevil since they can capture the visual/emotional energy from the Miller's run back in the 80s.
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My taste in movies sucks! I own WOTW, Cloverfield, King Kong, and Superman Returns. All my taste is in my mouth.
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The first movie could have been good with a different lead, and if they didn't have DD leaping 30 feet ala Spider-Man, AND if they'd cut that retarded playground scene.
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I've only seen it once (in theaters) but I'll take your word for it...it sounds like something that would take place in a movie like that. And the only reason I saw Elektra was because my friend has a hard-on for Jen Garner and he paid! What a dumbass!
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They are the only ones who seem to know what the fuck they are doing with their own properties...
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Stupid enter key... <p> Anyway, I hated Daredevil when I saw it in theaters. Many years later when I watched the Directors cut, I found myself enjoying it quite a bit. It's not the greatest movie ever, but it's pretty decent.
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The Highlander series is. They're really (no shit) re-booting Highlander! That, my friend, is the bottom of the barrel.
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Oct. 3, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST
I can't believe what I'm hearing from all of you fucking dweebs.
by Banzai Rootskibango
...Daredevil sucked. Mark Steven Johnson, sucks. <P> Somebody up there actually stated that he had the touch that made it good. You gotta be fucking kidding me. <P> He's already fucked up Daredevil AND Ghostrider. He's like a less annoying Ratner! <P> They need to give Daredevil to a filmmaker who knows dark and risky...and they need to go Dark Knight on the properties ass. <P> Don't try to please every possible target audience in the world and just make a good fuckin movie. <P> I mean come on! The playground fight!? The See-Saw?!? Gimme a break!
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I liked that you had him doing comic book things in a comic book movie. His big shasow casting against the wall in that one scene looked like something out of those classic Batman comics. Those kind of things don't happen in real life, but they can happen in comics and they can happen in films that want to bring those visials to life.
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was pretty damn good. While not as "epic" as Begins or Spiderman movies, it was a good dark sometimes funny little movie. Too bad most people have this anti-affleck hatred so they'll never give the director's cut a chance. But for me, no reboot is really needed. I thought even the kid who played young Murdock did a fine job, was a little cheesey with the redish hair but other than that it was really good.
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I liked that you had him doing comic book things in a comic book movie. His big SHADOW casting against the wall in that one scene looked like something out of those classic Batman comics. Those kind of things don't happen in real life, but they can happen in comics and they can happen in films that want to bring those visials to life.
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Quick, before she gets too old.<p>Also, Bendis is so overrated.
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Wasn't every single Highlander movie already a reboot of the franchise?
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They don't need to go 'The Dark Knight' because Daredevil is not a realistic superhero. He's more realistic that most, but placing him in a 'TDK' style real world setting and having realistic explanations for his ability and those of other people would suck ass.
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fuck you merrick. you know nothing about casting from that kind of name thrown in there. Ryan Reynolds at the very least.
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The action sequences were great. Colin Farrell was awesome as Bullseye. Michael Clarke Duncan is the best they could do for Kingpin. No white actor in Hollywood has his size. Ben Affleck was "OK" as Matt Murdock/Daredevil, but should have been a little more serious. The biggest problem....no offense at all to her.....was Jennifer Garner. She just did not have the presence that Elektra should have. After seeing it I always wondered who could play Elektra better and I could never think of anyone. Angelina Jolie, MAY be good. The Director's Cut is definitely the far superior movie but still not perfect. How Matt and Elektra meet should have been different. The battle in the park was just stupid.
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Witty crack about the blind man thing. Whoa, are they paying you by the sardonic comment Merrick? Daredevil was a solid action flick; not perfect but really good fun. And Shia is a fucking awful idea.
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...but you can roll it in glitter and sell it just the same.
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Mia Maestro would own the role.
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He'd be spot on...
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Apart from the bad Wi-fu I like the director's cut.
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Meant Reynolds, obviously.
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Not sure. He's a good actor, but can he play subtle? A hammy blind performance wouldn't work.
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the same people and it's supposed to be better. Hmmm.
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Or even Smokin' Aces. He's just waiting on the right role. Really underrated actor.
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You this to be true. Rothman needs to retire.
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I thought the Director's cut was great, and that MSJ, the director, did the best he could with what he was given. People kept ridiculing Affleck and Garner until it got silly. It became popular to make fun of them. They were not perfect in there roles but they were not unwatchable. The worst part of that movie was the entire performance by Colin Farrell. He was atrocious. and the very poor writing of the Kingpin character. Anyway, a reboot would be nice. I just want to see as many DD movies as possible.
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is an idiot.
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Shia as Murdock? You're fucking with us right?!? If there's gonna be a DD remake cast Angelina Jolie as Elektra and give Bullseye A "fucking costume"! I did like that green mile guy as Kingpin, although the final fight scene was rushed..oh and that playground scene was attrocious.Incredible Hulk as entertaing as it was, still doesnt surpass Ang Lee's version.<p>IMO atleast.
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With some battery acid.
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Why the need to reboot it? The character isn't all that great anyways I would be more interested in a Submariner/Namor film , Dr. Strange or even a Black Panther movie. With so many great characters to choose from, why reboot daredevil. It was a money maker.
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and tell me he wouldn't make a GREAT Daredevil
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Point 2: Daredevil was far from bad, although not a masterpiece to be sure. [But then what do I know...I like the two Fantastic4 movies and even Catwoman has its merits, IMHO. Point 3: Shia LaBeef belongs on a TV teen soap. That what he has the looks and talent for. He does not belong on the big screen. [I'd put it more strongly, but I'd get called a hater...]
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I think people would rather pay $10 for my fat ass to dress up in red spandex and act out the first Daredevil movie in a one man live show, than pay to see Shia LeJoo as Daredevil.
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don't be surprised, it was bound to happen eventually. In fact, I was due for one this decade. Picture this...X-Men 4: Cyclops wakes up screaming, turns to Jean-Grey sweaty and breathing heavy. "What's wrong?" Jean asks. "I just had the worst nightmare. You killed me, and it was horrible, just horrible." "Yes, honey, nightmares are horrible." She responds. "No. The dream itself, the direction, the acting, the special and practical effects were just horrid. And, Frasier was a blue monster who worked for the government." "That's it, mister. No more hogies and red bull before bedtime anymore for you!" It could work, right?
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It pissed all over SPIDER-MAN 1 & 3 - mainly because SM1 was fucking stupid and then SM3 made SM1 look like THE DARK KNIGHT - and, let's face it, origin stories are always as boring as hell - DAREDEVIL got the origin out the way inside twenty minutes. Garner was awesome, as was Colin Fuckin' Farrell, and Favreau gave great support. Do I buy Affleck as Daredevil? Sure - why not? Who the hell else would you accept? DAREDEVIL was a lot better than, let's see - INDY IV, STAR WARS I, II AND III, GHOST RIDER (yep, I know it was the same director - what the fuck happened in that?!?!?), any of the X-MEN (a stage dancer with a distinct lack of machismo for Wolverine, interchangeable OC types for the young X-Men, totally wasting Ellen Page, Vinnie fucking Jones, old boring farts intoning "the waaaaaaaaar has beguuuuun" every five fucking minutes, no decent large scale mutant battles until Ratner's "epic" - GAAAAHHH!!!)...<P> Bascially - what exactly was wrong with DAREDEVIL? Or is it a great film that just pissed off the TB community this week???
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"Your father's dead, Matt."<P> "NONONONONONONONONONONONO!!!"<P> In a nutshell.
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Nah, Ryan Reynolds should kick Shia's ass out and get himself the breakout role he deserves: Yorick Brown in "Y: THE LAST MAN". As long as the phrase "cock-juggling thundercunt" is nowhere to be found.
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I totally see Matt Fox as Daredevil. Good call.<P> Casting ideas for the LOST cast following the end of that show:<P> MATTHEW FOX - DAREDEVIL (reboot)<P> JOSH HOLLOWAY - ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK (reboot)<P> EVANGELINE LILLY - WONDER WOMAN (reboot)<P> DOMINIC MONAGHAN - THE HOBBIT (heh heh)<P> TERRY O'QUINN - General Starr in the PREACHER mini-series (hey, it could happen)<P> Any other ideas?!?
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Besides, Blindness = Daredevil reboot in a way. But with less Ben Affleck and more City of God pompous crap.
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a sequel with Affleck and a new director, based on 'Born Again. It will never happen though. I was more satisfied with DD after first watch than i was with the first spidey, although i now prefer spidey quality wise once i got past what i would have wanted to see ideally in a Spidey film. DD had some very fulfilling moments i had always wanted to see in a superhero movie but never quite got. Like going into a bar of heavies and clearing the place out, going on patrol at night over the rooftops, just 'looking' about for the bad guys. There are some daft adds to the Director's cut('See you in hell Diablo' messes up the reaction to the bullet going in the chamber, hate that one), but I did prefer it when i last watched it. It's a much maligned movie that gets some things right imo. After ghost rider though i'd want soemone else directing. I think the Frank Miller comics went a long way into giving the movie it's watchability, that and Affleck's performance which was great for the most part. I think that even if Scorsese directed, FM wrote it and the perfect actor played the role there would still be certain things I'd prefer from the original that I'd feel was lost, really like the radar sense teh way it was done. Doubt we will get the perfect situation though, and i doubt I'll enjoy a Fox reboot as much as the original. would prefer Marvel studios had a go at it if for the reboot.
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Evangeline Lilly IS Lois Lane.
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Kingpin is not black and Daredevil is not gay (the leatherboy look gave it away). This created fundamental changes in the source material.
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Oct. 3, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST
Also liked Daredevil, and think without Affleck it wouldn't be s
by Defiant
Daredevil was a flawed film but I liked it. I liked the Directors cut better as well. However it was severley hurt by bad CGI, and String Fu, not to mention how Hated Ben Affleck is. If Affleck wasn't the lead I am sure there would have been a sequel already as the film did make a larger profit than many other films that got sequels.
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Oct. 3, 2008, 7:49 p.m. CST
Reboots are fucking OVER WITH!!! STOP TALKING ABOUT BATMAN BEGIN
by TallBoy66
I hate Hollyweird and it's fucking buzz words. I HATE it!
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FF, Spider-Man 3, Ghost Rider of course and more. Affleck actually didn't do a star turn at all and was pretty good. Garner...eh....wrong choice for Elektra - they couldn't get a Euro-actress? And killing Elektra? Also...no. Then, they brough her back anyway in that truly bad Garner film. Tried to watch as rental and just....couldn't. Daredevil gay, no, he wasn't played that way all - maybe someone has issues with red leather? And a black Kingpin - Duncan was very good, in fact. Haven't heard anyone complain about a black Nick Fury now, out of the Ultimates-verse, rather than a white one, because then it would be...arghhh...Hasselhoff? No no no. I suppose Bullseye should have worn a blue costume with a headpiece? A total reboot though? Depends what they want to do and how they do it?
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Enough with the reboots already! It might go down a little easier if the filmmakers were simply to treat it like a next "issue" done by completely different artists/writers, as in the comic book medium, but not another #&!$ origin story, please. Besides, what kind of a slap in the face would that be to our good buddy "Foggy" Favreau, who made such a way-out "Iron Man"? Hey, Marvel Studios intern, if you blow by this talkback entry, please report to your dark, rich masters and persuade them to take up "Tomb of Dracula" as a Marvel flick. I'd sure love it. Excelsior!
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That films due for another look!
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Affleck is good. Guess no one here saw Armageddon.
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his problem was he was a pussy. "You won't tell anyone I'm Daredevil because you don't want anyone to know you got beat by a blind man". Right. The Kingpin in the comics wouldn't have kept his trap shut and gone to jail. He would have gone to jail and arranged to have Matt Murdock's friends, colleagues, neighbours, law professors, fellow alumni, tailor, baker, and candlestick maker killed. He'd wipe them all out and then make sure Murdock knew it was because of him. He would hurt Murdock and keep on hurting him for as long as it pleased him to do so. He sure as shit wouldn't role over and be DD's bitch like he did in the movie. <p>I guess the other problem was DD being an idiot, seeing as how he volunteered to Kingpin his real identity and put everyone he ever met in danger of being killed out of retribution for him making Kingpin his bitch.
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Why are we talking about "DareDevil" when an awesome new series called "The Graysons" will be debuting on the CW in a year? Can. Not. Wait.
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I'm dying, and have been dying, to know what Dick Grayson was up to before he became Robin. I'm sorry, CW, I mean what "DJ" was up to.
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Dick Grayson will be played by Ben Affleck's toddler son. See, I tied this post together! It all came to fruition!
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They're terrible. Jessica Alba is hot, but can't act for shit.
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Every movie(superhero or otherwise) doesn't have to be done "Dark Knight-style".
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why fuckin bother?
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God I hate Ben Affleck, and whatever un-named non-entity directed the original movie. But DD is cool and could be awesome.
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I have an idea. Why not just try and make a sequel that corrects the problems with the original and surpasses it? I think the first movie gets a lot more shit than it deserves.
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I didn't really read much and jumped to the conclusion that this was a Marvel Studio reboot, that is what I thought would be a good idea. I'd like to see the Daredevil movie be the story where DD crossed over with the giant mutie-x-over, Inferno, where demons and muties are fighting all over the city and a dazed and hallucinating DD wanders randomly through the city killing demons, all the while thinking he's training with Master Stick. Sweet. Plus I think there's a sub-plot about a pre-teen street kid trying to get some uninsured medical care or something so that we have something to feel warm and fuzzy about at the end.
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http://tinyurl.com/4d8tdm
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ain't Statham, it's cool news.
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Would be an awesome Matt Murdock and Daredevil. Ever since I saw him in Speed Racer I've felt that. Jason Statham on the other hand....would make a cool Daredevil (without the accent) but he would be an ABSOLUTE TERRIBLE Matt Murdock, performance wise I just don't see it coming out of him.....plus he has NO HAIR
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Think about it. bring him back as the antagonist in Punisher 3 or whatever and use Guy Pierce. I gotta say that I don't mind that Punisher trailer at all. I'll pay to see it.
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There ain't many out there, unless you reinterpret it to someone of Herc from The Wire's size. I don't see it happening. Just make him the antagonist in another Punisher movie. That was always the best issues when I was young. Didn't really buy the Daredevil in Welcome Back Frank.
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But it wasn't The Man Without Fear that I love so dearly. I want a DD movie that I don't have to make excuses for. - Kevin Smith should write it. Or get Brian Bendis or Ed Brubaker. A guy who knows the character inside and out. - Somebody like Joe Carnahan should direct it. Carnahan has shown a talent for gritty realism and over the top cartoony action. I think he could nail it with the right script. - And I agree that Guy Pearce would make a great Matt Murdock/Daredevil.
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The Hulk reboot went over like a turd in a punchbowl. Why bother rebooting another bomb?
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The source material is so strong that I agree with many others that the end product was actually pretty good despite Affleck being miscast.<br><br> I violently disagree that Jennifer Garner sucked as Elektra ... in fact, she was wonderful as "Elektra," a character who bore only the most superficial resemblance to the infinitely more interesting character of the comic book (whom she would have been horribly miscast as). Perhaps the greatest single moment in Miller's original run is the one where DD thinks he's about to get smooched by the love of his life, who instead says "Matt, don't let it go to your head" and pushes him through a huge glass window 50 stories up. Where was that character? Gone, baby, gone.<br><br> The other major flaw was too much compression. There was enough material in the Miller run to do a trilogy, or at the very least a pair of movies. The first should have been origin, training with Stick, affair with Elektra in college, a run-in with the Kingpin of some sort, and a re-introduction of the utterly transformed Elektra as a cliffhanger. And I love the idea of borrowing or incorporating the structure of the last issue of Miller's original run, where he's just talking to Bullseye in the hospital.<br><br> The problem with a proper reboot is that it's hard to fix both of these flaws simultaneously. They need to come up with a really great storyline (I really only know the Miller runs) for the first movie, and then the return to the true Elektra in a sequel would blow some minds.
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Haha, kidding. Though the ridiculous ones can be interesting, if written well. Look at Purple Man in Bendis's Alias and DD. Creepy as hell. He would be my choice.<p> Brubaker's recent run on DD is the correct model for this new version.
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DD and Elektra dont laugh youd go you know you would
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You are a fucking idiot. Shia for Murdock? Fuck off. And the last Daredevil film wasn't that bad, certainly not 'made by a blind man' bad...there's been far bigger turkeys than that. Shia is way too young for Hornhead. Get a fucking grip.
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Director - Rian Johnson, the name should be familiar to those the have seen the excellent Brick. It has an outsider protagonist and an honest-to-god Kingpin! The film is an under-appreciated gem with moments of shocking violence that would fit like a glove in Hell's Kitchen. And bring back Bullseye, but recast him as Farrell was so over-the-top(in a bad way) that he could see Australia. I mean Bullseye is such a brilliant creation he taunts his opponents by having an actual bullseye target on his forehead! 'Hit that, but if you miss - I won't.' Brilliant.
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KingPin has to be White, just like Luke Cage would have to be black. Or Spawn(Al Simmons), would have to be black. Be true to the source material, and it should be good. Keep Ben Affleck away.
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If it had been as good as X2, we'd have had something really special on our hands. Can't believe that ball was dropped. No-one came out looking good.
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Now that we can all agree that the Ed Norton one pretty much sucked (because it had no story), maybe they could think about re-booting the Hulk. Soon?
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and id actualoly say they could use ben affleck again.... affleck did a decent job and he knows the character well.... hell, give it to kevin smith to direct.
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She actually looks Greek
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Who casts these things!?
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The Hulk was not a bad movie. I do like the 'reboot' but the first wasn't terrible like everybody says. Daredevil was cool too. The end was so-so but I liked it. Its not for blind people.
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Because he's become nothing but a joke, and I'm not exactly sure how...
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and to top it all off, if he'd done X3, he would have stayed the hell away from Superman.
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I think it has something to do with his acting choices and his association with the J-LO.
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Hollywoodland?
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and we might actualy see a kick-ass Daredevil based upon John Romita Jr and Frank Millers The Man Without Fear storyline. It's the only DD story that ever got it right. And by all that is holly don't let miller direct it.
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diehardfan, I think the 60's Stan Lee-Gene Colon stories are also considered classic Daredevil
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I just seem to instantly think of that story, being a kid of the 80s and 90s.
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So I wish they would actually do a sequel, instead of rebooting it. But because "Batman Begins" was so successful, and ended up spawning a fantastic sequel called "The Dark Knight", everything is about to be rebooted. "TDK" has shaken hollywood up, and has changed comic-book films forever. Kinda like how "Watchmen", and "The Dark Knight Returns" changed comic-books forever. People just fall into a trend, and can't let go of it. :)
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Pouty and smiling. Kind of like David Caruso. Sunglasses on, take sunglasses off. And so on. She'd looked hot at times in Alias, but that was it. Her acting is marginal. But those who complain about a wise-cracking-a-bit Matt Murdock from Affleck, uh, read a lot of pre-Miller Daredevils, thank you. He wasn't always all-brood mood.
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but I have yet to fathom what the hell elektra was all about. What a mess that film was. or wanted for that matter. I mean that movie was so incomprehensible that terence stamps cameo made no sense at all. He just turned up, left and turned up again.
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They need to cast Michael C. Hall as Murdock if this thing comes to fruition. The guy is tailor made for the role.
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If you have not seen this version of the movie you rally should before saying that this movie was garbage. Who ever hacked up the movie and then released it to general audience should be black listed from ever working in movies again. I have seen both versions of this movie (what played in the theaters and the directors cut) and the directors cut is what the movie was to have been not this shitty version that was released in theaters. As far as Shia Lebouf, will everybody get off his dick already? Jesus the kid is a few movies and you think hes the second coming of the greatest actor ever. Find some realitivly unknown actor who fits the role more so than your big name actors...hell if your gonna go with LeBouf how about Brad Pitt or George Clooney or hell Wesley Snipes lets go a different ethnic background, you see how stupid it sounds?
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Have a twenty year history of massive interference. Alien series post James CAmeron to BAbylon A.D. to Wolverine sold movie. They can not help themselves. Daredevil is a classic case of ramming to much content into one movie. I would love to see a great Daredevil movie and if you looking for a director with vision. Well I'm not to sure who I would give this project. My ultimate would be Mel Gibson.
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Does an honest job, gets your movie made on time and on budget. Yet that is it. I sure wouldn't have my fist in the air if I heard Mark Steven Johnson got any more comic gigs.
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1. Jason Statham as Daredevil. 2. Alan Rickman as Dr.Strange. 3. Matthew Fox as Iron Fist. 4. Ben Affleck as Bullseye.
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i didnt mind the daredevil with ben affleck in it...but one thing i didnt like was the casting for kingpin, especially after reading he was white in the comics...i dont mind stretching the comic theme but everyone should look like they do in the comics...and electra WAS a mess of a film...garner in tight red leather couldnt even save it..
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Affleck as Bullseye? You dont think having the actor, that previously played the lead hero, playing the lead villain would be confusing to the general audience?
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So, this news doesn't really surprise me much since Fox is looking for their "Dark Knight"<br><br>However, I fear the "genuine vision" they're looking for is "Make Dark Knight except with a blind guy in red instead of a rich guy in black"<br><br>Problem is, DD has no Joker (a villain probably more popular than the hero) not even close.<br><br>That said, I would like to see the character be done some justice on the big screen. As stated about 50 times above, the 2003 version wasn't terrible per se, just way overwrought in about thirty five different ways, and basically, a bit of a mess.
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Val Kilmer would be perfect for Matt Murdock.<br><br>Nowadays... Dunno
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keep Affleck.....just make sure they release the directors cut this time...
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Oct. 5, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST
So, "Reboot" now means "Remake a shitty first attempt"?
by GrandMuffTarkin
It used to be that "Reboot" meant to reset the film history of a character that has an established cinematic storyline in order to pave a new direction. Now, it seems to mean that since the first director did a rather crappy job, we'll have another go at it a few years later.
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Seriously, and I don't mean some Wesley Snipes badass action bullshit version, either. I mean a version that is true to the comics, that portrays T'Challa as the king he is. The Black Panther is Marvel's Batman, but without the crazy. <p> He'd be an excellent Avenger... He WAS an excellent Avenger.
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If you want hate Daredevil, hate that stupid Rex Smith tv version Hulk meets Daredevil.
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of its genre. The director's cut was vastly superior to the original. Face it, comic-inspired movies can be fun but few aspire to great moviemaking. Superman the movie, Sin City & Dark Knight are the only movies that actually transcend the genre. I hope Watchmen does the same.
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Mark S. Johnson ripped too much from Tim Burton's Batman for the film's style, but with Johnson's sub-par directing skills (see Ghost Rider), the film ended up looking like a B-version of The Crow. Comic book fans in particular have come to expect quality from Daredevil, as the Frank Miller runs on that book have been some of the best modern comic book stories in recent memory. Director/writer Johnson threw all that out the window, not because he wanted to, but through sheer lack of talent, he couldn't do it any other way. I'm sure Johnson meant well, but he made a film that bordered on being a film for kids. The movie also suffered from all the silly press Ben Affleck got from his tabloid adventures. He became a personality, and this, for many people, overshadowed his character acting as Matt Murdock. Plus, Affleck didn't help things by playing the same smirking wise-ass we see him on awards shows, talk shows, and Kevin Smith movies. It's kind of like the movie adaptation of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen that came out a while back. If the original comic book by Alan Moore hadn't been a classic of the medium, the quality of the film wouldn't have really mattered. But no, the movie sucked in comparison, hence the backlash. Miller's Daredevil run is a classic, the Daredevil movie is not. Savvy?
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comic, only knowing the basics, I appreciate your well thought out and articulate discussion on the inadequacies. Much better than the usual this sucked blah blah blah drivel. Opinion with intelligence to back it is always appreciated, even if you disagree with the opinion.
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Great soundtrack I listen to every once in awhile. Bullseye was a great villain. The movie did make money. I did not mind Kingpin being black. Elektra was good in movie her solo movie did suck. I say same main cast and lets do Mr Fear stuff or Sin Eater next. I would say "Hand" ninja stuff but they shot that to hell in Elekra also.
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He DOES! His name is The Jester! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jester_(Marvel_Comics) heh
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ADMIT it.
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Great posts you guys! emvan> love the hospital/Bullseye reference! I liked Garner for the film too, and one actor/character nobody has talked about on this board was Joe as Ben Urich. He was great and I liked the thought of his important character in any sequels. superbenitez> awesome casting! Hall would be great, if they had to change Affleck. I'd rather have the same cast back, and sequels don't have to come so quickly. 7 years between Terminator movies allowed for much better technology for spec. f/x. Studios are too quick to shove more down our throat of the same thing. Take time, and then corners won't be cut and sacrifices can be avoided.
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Hopefully Rothman won't fuck it up this time.
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It sucked dick both times.
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1. Jason Statham as Daredevil. 2. Alan Rickman as Dr.Strange. 3. Matthew Fox as Iron Fist. 4. Ben Affleck as Bullseye. <a href="http://www.game.gen.tr" target="_blank">Oyun Sitesi</a>
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Where's the rosetta stone?
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will unravel the mystery...
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Wouldn't that be bad?
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