Oct. 2, 2008, 8:41 p.m. CST
What everyone too busy watching debates?
Oct. 2, 2008, 8:41 p.m. CST
Oct. 2, 2008, 8:41 p.m. CST
Oct. 2, 2008, 8:41 p.m. CST
And in tomorrow's news, the CW has just cancelled Supernatural.
Oct. 2, 2008, 8:43 p.m. CST
and didn't come back for 7 or 8 months are taking it up the ass the most. Not just Heroes, but Pushing Daisies in particular. Knight Rider AND Gary Unmarried beat it head-to-head. That's a direct result, IMO, of ABC's decision to hold back the show until September instead of jumping back into the fray sooner.
Oct. 2, 2008, 8:47 p.m. CST
We discovered it after S1 (via DVD) and have been enjoying it ever since! The market share is obviously still small, but it's terrific for a CW show.
Oct. 2, 2008, 8:55 p.m. CST
by Big Bad Clone
for these shows by using the tried and true method of showing reruns instead of throwing up a bunch of taletless hicks on a stage or mansion or some shit. The reruns would give us a chnace to see shows we might have missed. The reality shit just drives people away from TV. <p><p>Pushing Daisies may be a hard sell, but I love that show and will go to great lenghts to punish any asshole who tries to get it yanked off the air.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:05 p.m. CST
When one does, I'll probably wait a while to start watching when I think it might not get canceled. <p> So far, I've just continued to watch the same shows I've always watched.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:09 p.m. CST
Should be about a big ass scary Teutonic killing machine not a waifish Radio Disney overtly sexual cyborg They really can't help themselves in hollywood can they trying to shove everything into the whole pretty people, youth culture, mtv-ish, vapid dumbed down model. who really cares at this point??
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:14 p.m. CST
these networks will give some of these shows some leash before they get the axe because shows like pushing daisies is only gonna go up with word of mouth its such a good show thats well written
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:15 p.m. CST
Herc, c'mon mannnnn...throw the show a bone. It's only got two more seasons, you've seen how it usually overtakes the Smallville discussion (and usually causes those to rank in the top three most popular talkbacks), we know you guys want clicks, you'll get it with this show.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:15 p.m. CST
Hell, I kind of even like it better than the X-Files. Its a helluva lot more fun.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:17 p.m. CST
by Amy Chasing
90210 gets a full season, and ratings for Pushing Daisies go down. World's going to hell in a handbasket people. I'm going to get a beer. Anyone want anything?
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:28 p.m. CST
That Wayne Brady doesn't get to choke any bitches. Always a shame, I think.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:34 p.m. CST
...before they do the back story character development stuff. I still really like what they're doing but time is running out... Good on Supernatural, always liked that show.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:37 p.m. CST
This is really distressing. Such a great unique show that nobody's watching
Well not enough people I should say
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:38 p.m. CST
by Paul T. Ryan
Why are these niche-audience shows even pitched to the majors? As for Terminator, it was a pointless idea to begin with, and I don't care if that one gets cancelled.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:44 p.m. CST
by Mr. N
It really should be on cable, only 13 episodes a year or so. It can't do this 20-23 times a season. Not without becoming drab.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:45 p.m. CST
Liked him since he was The Skinman<br> This was a great role for him<br> Too bad it probably can't be a reoccurring
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:45 p.m. CST
I watch it, and somewhat enjoy it, but they need to actually re-read what they write and ask themselves how stupid some of their crap is. I mean there are moments when something so idiotic will happen that I am pulled out of the show and I find myself wondering why someone did this or didn't do that. John Connor fixes Cameron's chip by cleaning it? Or that whole following part where Cameron nearly kills everyone but she's out of service or whatever, and so let's turn her on again because I am sure my cleaning cloth has defeated any microscopic damage to this super-advanced computer chip.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST
it wasn't busted, a cold reboot reset some other process<br> When she came back on line the terminate command was present until it was overridden by another process
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST
It's time for someone to try the direct pay model.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST
I tired of it quickly. I'm really not into that style of show anyway, but I did appreciate it for what it is and how well it was put together. Unfortunately, I agree with the poster about it being kinda repetitive. I felt it was a little too much style over substance.<br><br> As for Terminator, I enjoy it as a guilty pleasure, but won't be devistated when it is canceled after its 13th episode this season. I just hope they wrap up the storyline rather than just leave the show hanging. <br><br> I am glad to see How I Met Your Mother doing well. Maybe it won't be a bubble show yet again this year.
Oct. 2, 2008, 9:59 p.m. CST
And Dean driving a Gremlin (or was that a Pinto?).
Oct. 2, 2008, 10 p.m. CST
by Speed Fricassee
Silence that fucking show and its fucking fucker writers and fucking bad fucking actors!!! AWFUL!! AWFUL!! AWFUL!!
Oct. 2, 2008, 10:06 p.m. CST
has been better but there are some things that i personally don't lie ( not knowing how to write peter becasue he is too powerful so they just take him out of the story) but from what i understand it still is doing great in the demographics so sorry it prolly isnt going anywhere
Oct. 2, 2008, 10:15 p.m. CST
I just started watching "Supernatural" this season, thanks to a friend pushing me into it, and I'm glad I did. Great writing, excellent acting, scary as hell action sequences, and unexpected twists all over the place have pulled me in.<p> Now I just need to watch the first few seasons on DVD...
Oct. 2, 2008, 10:17 p.m. CST
by Earthquake WestCoast
Whoever thinks that Terminator should be about a big ass scary Teutonic killing machine not a hot sexual cyborg must be GAY!!! ARE ALL YOU FANBOYS GAY!!! YES. That's why you're afraid of girls and like movies featuring big musclear sweaty men wearing little shorts in the movie "300". Or how you like films about comic books featuring men in tight spandex or black leather. GAY!!! THE SARAH CONNER CHRONICLES is the best show on television! How come this new generation of young guys are so gay and girl like? The Russians are going to have a field day with you all once you get drafted in the upcoming war! Have a nice day.
Oct. 2, 2008, 10:19 p.m. CST
by Earthquake WestCoast
Oct. 2, 2008, 10:20 p.m. CST
by Mr. Moe
Oct. 2, 2008, 10:31 p.m. CST
She's not in the guest star listing for episode 6, whose story summary was released by NBC this morning. The show will have an ep 10/27, then resume 11/10 for the stretch run of the Villains arc.
Oct. 2, 2008, 10:35 p.m. CST
by Mockingbird Girl
PUSHING DAISIES, SARAH CONNOR and HEROES are exactly the type of genre shows likely to improve drastically when timeshifted viewing (i.e., DVRs) is taken into account. It's probably premature to count them out just yet.
Oct. 2, 2008, 10:51 p.m. CST
That's what I'm pretty sure I see on Zap2it. So why is Fox ready to pull the plug on Terminator and not PB? Eh, even if it's done this season, hopefully it'll have a non-cliffhanger, somewhat cohesive ending. Two small, inexpensive DVD sets will fit nicely on the shelf between T2 and T3.
Oct. 2, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST
Can we have a Supernatural talkback please?
Oct. 2, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST
It is generally accepted that this is the last year of Prison Break. Also, Prison Break isn't as expensive as a show because Terminator uses a lot more CGI and other special effects. That is why Terminator is more likely not to get picked up for a full season.
Oct. 2, 2008, 11:18 p.m. CST
There's just too much good shit on television for me to waste my time with a show that has consistently insulted my intelligence.<p>The core issue I have with Heroes is that the plot has always driven the characters, instead of the characters driving the plot. Every character keeps making dumb ass decisions, not because it makes sense for that character based on what we've learned about them as a person, but based on the fact the writers need the plot to advance from point "A" to point "B".<p>So, suddenly Suresh is going to forget everything he's learned about the dangers of the blind pursuit of science over the last seasons and just inject himself with that shit? Why? Because the writers needed that puzzle piece to advance their plot. Well, I'm done tolerating that crap. I've removed it from my DVR.
Oct. 2, 2008, 11:19 p.m. CST
What's this about Supernatural going only 2 more seasons? I'm not opposed to a great show having a set termination point, but I hadn't heard that.
Oct. 2, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST
It's too bad the season started out as weak as it did, because last week's episode was pretty kick-ass. The rough start may have killed it though.
Oct. 2, 2008, 11:54 p.m. CST
I still watch TSCC, but it has to be with the DVR so I can fast forward just about any scene Lena Headey is in (sarah connor). It's the most boring drama bullshit you've ever seen whenever she's on screen. Not even a hint of the hardcore Linda Hamilton.
Oct. 3, 2008, 12:09 a.m. CST
They full on Back to the Future-d Supernatural tonight. Then threw in some Episode V action with Mary's backstory (I mean the shock of it, not like she's really their father or something). Underrated doesn't begin to describe my feelings for this show. Pitch-perfect writing and characters.
Oct. 3, 2008, 12:23 a.m. CST
Pushing Daisies is one of the most enjoyable shows I have seen in a long time. Although I do agree that it should stick to a shorter season than 22 episodes. 12 or 13 episodes would be about right. The production design, music, writing, pretty much everything about it is great. While I also like the Sarah Connor Chronicles, Pushing Daisies is the one show that I'd be really pissed off about if it got cancelled.
Oct. 3, 2008, 12:25 a.m. CST
by Ka Dargo
That lead woman (forgot her character name) is so freakin hot it's ridiculous!!!! The eyes, hair tight ass body.....one of the most perfect flat tone stomach's ever!!
Oct. 3, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST
The writers love the movies, you can tell, even if they can't always measure up to the quality.<p> And those of you, any of you, rooting for TSCC or Pushing Daisies or Heroes to be canceled are sad, unhinged, people. Neurotic to feel that insulted by the very EXISTENCE of a show.
Oct. 3, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST
I have tried to watch every episode, EVERY episode and about the 45 minute mark I end drifting off to another section of the house. It's too unique for it's own good. While that may work for a 2 hour movie or even for a couple of episodes, it becomes maddening week after week. <p> Plus there are too many fucking commercials during the last half hour, like every 6 minutes. It takes me right out and I end up bored with the whole thing. <p> Props for what they tried to do but in the end, fail
Oct. 3, 2008, 12:27 a.m. CST
...the only show I've managed to get into heavily since Buffy and Angel left the air. The characters are great, I love the deep mythology and the interpersonal relationships, and it's even developing a cool arc and sense of humor. My friends and I love discussing each episode... I really would hate to see it go now.
Oct. 3, 2008, 12:34 a.m. CST
i can understand where some of the problem with PD is because if u tink about it it is like any other procedural show in a disney wrapping. and yeah it is a little too cute which i thikn is what makes it enjoyable but aas for the commercials i dont kno about last season becasue i saw most of it on dvd but as for the season premiere they did the first 20 minutes without a commercial and had to obviously do the commercials somewhere it wont be a regular occurence they just were trying to inform the new audience and get them invested in that episodes story before a commercial
Oct. 3, 2008, 12:52 a.m. CST
I've seen two episodes, and they were great, lots of fun, but I have very little desire to watch it again. A weird opposition to Heroes, which has all sorts of problems, but keeps me coming back without fail.
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:11 a.m. CST
I don't care that it's not perfect. At least I am not watching that fetid crap that passes for "Emmy Award" winning television these days. AKA Grays Anatomy and Mad Men and every other prime time soap opera on TV. Why don't they just leave that shit on during day hours with General Hospital and all that?
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:15 a.m. CST
Getting crappy shows cancelled frees up production money and airtime for other shows and sends a signal to the industry that we want quality.
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:21 a.m. CST
by Cotton McKnight
And it's better than Buffy the Vampire Slayer ever thought about being.
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:23 a.m. CST
the problem is that its not only crappy shows getting canceled. now i have a weird taste in shows and im not gonna hate on somebody for there tastes in show but there is a big difference between shows that are crappy and shows that just dont appeal to certain people. Thas my problem with the CW network. i like the show Reaper which actually was a better rated show than gossip girl but because the CW wants to cater to teenage girls all the reaper fans have to wait til midseason to be brought back.
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:33 a.m. CST
by Crimson King
They need to find a way to make it a more serial show as opposed to just keeping it episodic. I don't know if I'm using the right lingo, but whatever. I mean, if they stick to the same formula over and over, people will get bored...and apparently that's already taking place...
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:39 a.m. CST
I think Pushing Daisies LOOKS impressive as hell, with just gorgeous cinematography, and I do enjoy the characters and situations, but I don't think I'd really be that crushed if it were to be cancelled.
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:46 a.m. CST
i dont think thats the case because every show has a formula they stick too for most episodes especially a procedural show like CSI which PD is just with a candy coating. I never seen HIMYM and i was interested in checking it out when i seen Sarah Chalke was doing episdoes since i like scrubs butfrom rumors i hear about who is the mother probably related to the fact that if im gussing right that sarah is the one brought back to scrubs if ABC keeps it for another year i lost interest
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:47 a.m. CST
The fact that TSCC is doing poorly is because the show is fucking terrible and insulting to viewers who appreciate the genre. I really liked it last season and was looking forward to it this year, but it blows. Its lame and they're doing a half-ass job of creating a show based around the franchise. As far as Heroes goes...I don't believe they even have storyline thought out. They make it up as they go, its garbage, Season 1=awesome. Season2-3= garbage. By all rights, it should be the most incredible show of all time. Instead it just became convoluted steaming pile of shit. Now there's clones???!!! Ali Larter has been cast as the most uninteresting fucking character of all time, that just happens to have super powers.The show terrible and the writers are just giant douchebags for even coming up with such horseshit storylines.
Oct. 3, 2008, 2:25 a.m. CST
I may be in the minority here, but Pushing Daises is such a nice change of pace from other shows, I always find it enjoyable. "Heroes", "T:TSCC" and "Lost" are all so serious that its SO NICE to watch a show that is light and entertaining and most of all, FUN. I agree that it can be repetitious, but the characters always bring me back. And also this premiere (which got the lowest ratings) had the most to do with a serialized plot, so I feel like many of you are off your mark.
Oct. 3, 2008, 2:30 a.m. CST
I'm sorry about anyone who say Pushing Daisies is "not compelling enough in its storytelling" simply doesn't watch the majority of television out there. What's better? I'll give you LOST, and maybe BSG, but other than that you've got nothing...
Oct. 3, 2008, 2:47 a.m. CST
...is a great show. Compelling characters...a great story line...and some nifty acting....the two leads are brilliant and its a crying shame that this show is overlooked...Pusjing Daisies - hmmm...it is nice and quirky, and the performances are great, but the show is hardly compelling...and as for Terminator - the producers need to stop this sexy robot fantasy and give us some crazy ass machines, or its going to be dead very very soon.
Oct. 3, 2008, 2:50 a.m. CST
So that means it's definitely going to be cancelled. :(
Oct. 3, 2008, 2:58 a.m. CST
Haven't seen boys of that calibre in a show about monsters before. They are the big guns! It has been improving with every season. Word!
Oct. 3, 2008, 3:07 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
Someone's been paying attention, those are two shows I hoped will get a bigger viewership to avoid cancellation. Although HIMYM isn't that good this year so far. Supernatural however could carry it's own SUPERNATURAL NETWORK.
Oct. 3, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST
by Particularly Hard Vato
Hey- I agree- I mean, when will this robot put out? If she were my terminator pet, I would teach her well!
Oct. 3, 2008, 3:40 a.m. CST
by The Outlander
Pushing Daisies & Terminator are my two favorite shows and I have no interest in Supernatural or Criminal Minds.
Oct. 3, 2008, 4:46 a.m. CST
It's been outstanding this season, so far.
Oct. 3, 2008, 5:24 a.m. CST
Oct. 3, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
I think the fact that it's not overhyped like Lost or Heroes helps it a lot. They don't have to drag out storylines, they keep it tight, knowing cancellation can come at any moment. They still keep to the Five Year Plan, but everything that happens matters. They've killed of John and YED (Azazel) before they overstayed their welcome. Same with the FBI guy. Or Bela. Or that little girl hunter. There's not a single episode or character I hate or feel it drags down the story. That's very rare. The show's writing is just tight as hell right now.
Oct. 3, 2008, 5:56 a.m. CST
Overrated BS... shame about Terminator though, but I've stopped watching as well since episode 2 of season 2. One thing I don't get is... enough Grey's House Hospital and NSICSISNCIS let's-solve-a-murder with a few out of touch B-actors series already!
Oct. 3, 2008, 6:20 a.m. CST
by Jack Black
It's good to see that a show in it's 4th season is turning it up a notch. Agree with lot's of folks about Pushing Daisies. I hope it succeeds because it's diffferent and the cast is great....but I never want to watch it.
Oct. 3, 2008, 6:25 a.m. CST
by Red Dawn Don
I Am Pulling For TERMINATOR and PUSHING DAISIES. (Like my help has ever helped.) TERMINATOR for me and my Summer Glau addiction and PD for my family's viewing. Sidebar: Swoosie Kurtz (the eye-patch "aunt") has one of those extra long tongues in real life. Go to youtube to see it. It is epic, you'll be amazed. Now everyone should go and have some PIE. Negative posters please SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE.
Oct. 3, 2008, 6:28 a.m. CST
by Red Dawn Don
Special Note To Swoozie Kurtz: If this mainstream acting thing ever dries up for you, please do porn movies. They need a tongue like yours over there.
Oct. 3, 2008, 6:46 a.m. CST
FFS I love that show. I'm ecstatic that Supernatural is doing well but I don't want TSCC cancelled. By FAR the best sci-fi show on television right now, some episodes make Battlestar look like teenage soap opera in space.
Oct. 3, 2008, 6:56 a.m. CST
I am so glad the ratings are up. This show, that is not overhyped, kicks ass more than ever. And the Winchester Brothers are some of the most badass characters ever on television. And Bobby oozes coolness.
Oct. 3, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST
did a good job last night, imo. Especially in the last couple of scenes, sitting at the table..."Of course it's personal. You're trying to kill me." The whole bit with mommmy Winchester making her deal with the devil. Awesome. Great episode. The only thing I don't like about cosmic battles in film, cinema, books and religion is the whole battle between good and evil having to involve humans. Castiel (sp?) told Dean (I'm quoting as well as I can) "Take care of it or we will." Well, then, why didn't ya'll take care of it in the first place? Why all the mystery and possible failure? "If so powerful you are, why run?"
Oct. 3, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
It sux it's up against Monday night football... WTF?!
Oct. 3, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST
Part of the Supernatural success might be attributable to Smallville getting their heads of out of their asses. After dumping Gough & Millar, at least the newish folks are bringing their B game to the table (I don't think they've ever had an A game.)
Oct. 3, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST
I'm happy to see that How I Met Your Mother is doing well but distressed at the same time for the news about Terminator and Pushing Daisies.
Oct. 3, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST
The networkt need to jumt to the next step: On Demand. Forget Hulo, and other sites to see series. Forget TV rating (obsolete) forever. Just give us free episodes (with ads) on something like TiVo On Demand or iTunes (you watch for free with ads, or you pay for no ads), or PS3, Xbox...
Oct. 3, 2008, 9 a.m. CST
Got roped in during S3 and have enjoyed every episode I've seen. It's like Buffy for guys without the preachy moral attitude. Just 2 brothers trying to make the best of a truly shit situation.
Oct. 3, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST
It got waaaaay to stupid. Okay, we just had a gun fight, crashed cars, are bleeding, and we killed some people. Let's go home. John has school in the morning. Oh, and I'll just go and get a job at the local nuclear power plant. Should only take a day to do that.
Oct. 3, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST
I admit, I thought it was retarded when the pilot came on...still think the pilot sucked. But almost every ep. since has been a winner IMHO. Did you last weeks? One of the best so far. No, I'm not saying that this series is on the level of The Wire or The Shield, etc., but compared to the majority of TV is it way up there.
Oct. 3, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST
overarching storylines such as the reappearence of Ned's dad.
Oct. 3, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST
by Darth Bauer
Ridiculous. Pushing Daisies is one of the most original and entertaining shows on tv right now.
Oct. 3, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST
by Reverend Toast
The only way to be a Neilson household is to have a landline. I, and many others like me, only have a cell phone. Pushing Daisies is one of my favorite shows, along with Chuck, Psych, and Burn Notice... how many others are there like me that enjoy these shows, but don't fit into the Neilson demographic? There needs to be a new system for show ratings because to me it is pretty obvious that the current system is severely outdated.
Oct. 3, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST
by I am_NOTREAL
Let's change Deal or No Deal to "Don't Pick Too Many High Dollar Amounts on the Board and End Up With a Low Offer from the Banker or Only One Dollar."
Oct. 3, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST
the new season has been great so far.
Oct. 3, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST
I just hope they don't forsake stand-alone episodes in favor of mytharc ones.
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST
I was extremely skeptical of HIMYM at first but I gave it a chance last season and was pleasantly surprised. I think it's the best/only laugh track show i can watch on TV right now
Oct. 3, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST
pushing Daisies gets taped to watch later....
Oct. 3, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST
by A for Aristocrat
Castiel can take care of it by killing Sam. He doesn't want to do that. I think they brought Dean back because he is the only one that can save Sam without killing him. Also, whoever defined Supernatural as Buffy for guys.....brilliant.
Oct. 3, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST
Just because something claims to be an angel, doesn't mean it is.<p> Last nights episode could have been for the purpose of driving a rift between the brothers.<br> With the added bonus of bring pain and torment to Dean.<p> Castiel could be one of the big olde tymey demons.<br> One of the ones who went thru the fall.<br> Was an angel before becoming a demon.<p> The demons in the series have said they've never seen any of those also.
Oct. 3, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST
It's too smart and too unique for "Middle America." Remember, these are the people that made CSI and other procedurals the highest-rated shows on TV, and shows like Two-and-a-half Men the highest-rated "comedies." They are the same people that have been responsible for the deaths of all the greatest TV shows for over a decade.<p> I'm now officially on board with the viewers paying/subscribing for shows model now. No one actually cares enough about these procedurals/law shows to pay to keep it on the air, but I can guarantee you those shows with small-but-passionate audiences are the ones that will prosper. In other words, Good Television. It would probably go a long way in killing off the abortion that is reality TV, too.
Oct. 3, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST
by A for Aristocrat
I agree there is probably more to Castiel than meets the eye. They always twist characters around. He might be lying, he might be a fallen angel, he could be one of those crazy christopher walken prophesy angels. For right now though the set up is Dean with the angels Sam with the demons. I'm sure all of that will be flipped on its head by the end of the season.
Oct. 3, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST
Not surprised in the least that Earl took a hit. After last season's misguided detour, I nearly gave up on it. Looks like they may be back on track this season. May be too little too late though.
Oct. 3, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST
move football to tuesday
Oct. 3, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST
can someone explain why future peter tried to murder his brother rather than just telling him what would happen? where the going for a who shot JR/Mr Burns thing. some hope.
Oct. 3, 2008, 4:31 p.m. CST
the plot called for it<p> There is no real characters in heroes.<br> There are powers and plot devices with faces attached
Oct. 3, 2008, 5 p.m. CST
by Cheif Brody
I kinda love this show...but does it make me gay? Lol!! I've never been a fan of "whimsy"...and the season premiere was the most "whimsical" episode ever for that show. Chenoweth in a nunnery?!! Doing 'Sound of Music' spins on top of a mountain? <p> PING....PING....PING!! Sorry...my Gaydar goes off when I even think of that!! <p> But, the production design...the writing (it's the 'Moonlighting' writing that I'm a sucker for)...the cinematography...the special effects...(The creepy 'bee man' suit'? Outstanding!) the overall "look"...Geez...I have no idea how they can possibly crank out 22 of these a season. <p> But, yes...they have a formula...and are sticking to it. I really wanna see them break the usual pattern a few times this season...Where Ned doesn't touch the dead person until the END of the episode...Like...they try to solve the mystery FIRST...then wake the dead guy at the end to see if they were right. Just change it up. <p> And, as always...they need to put in more Digby. <p> PING...PING...PING!!! There it goes again!! Sorry!!
Oct. 3, 2008, 5:59 p.m. CST
I started watching the dvds last month(thanks Timetravellingbunny!) and I'm 7 episodes into season 3. It is the 2nd best geek show(after lost) on tv right now. Does Herc not watch the show is that why it doesn't get a tb?
Oct. 3, 2008, 6:30 p.m. CST
Is get rid of Sarah. How can John be a hero when his mom is always around him being tougher than he is? <p>Too bad about the title which prevents them from changing it this way.
Oct. 3, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST
Let's see here. One data point (one week's ratings) and we're already playing the Dead Pool. Is everyone truly that impatient? Are reporters so lazy with no real news to repeort that this qualifies? ( I already know the answer to that one, see the last 5 years of Paris Hilton coverage). I expect this mentality from the networks, but the fans better watch it or they'll be no better. Maybe we get what we deserve.
Oct. 3, 2008, 7:52 p.m. CST
by My Pretty Pony
It's so clever and well-written. The producers, writers and directors are so on the ball, you can tell they really care about putting out a good show every week. There are only 2 stars, but they have such tremendous charisma, chemistry, not to mention talent, that they have no problem carrying the show. The recurring characters and even the guest stars are always excellent. It's no wonder the show is doing so well this season. I swear, it just keeps getting better and better w/ each new season. Kripke has stated that the show will only be 5 seasons long, but I really think he should reconsider and plan for a 6th season. They're on their 4th and haven't lost any steam at all, plus we got gypped last season due to the strike. "Buffy" has been my favorite show for many years now, but SN is giving it some serious competition, and coming from me, that's saying A LOT...As for "Sarah Connor Chronicles", I really hope they give the show a chance this season. I really enjoy watching it, but they do need to step it up a notch or two. It seems like they've been playing it a little too safe and so far, we haven't been seeing nearly enough of Derek.
Oct. 3, 2008, 7:57 p.m. CST
Sure, Monday Night Football is on ESPN, and that's cable, but EVERYBODY gets ESPN so broadcast or not it's going to kill in the ratings. but MNF ends in Jan. and then the monday nighters get room to breathe ala 24 (moving the show to mid-season non-stop was the smartest thing FOx ever did). They'd both probably pick up by then.
Oct. 3, 2008, 8:22 p.m. CST
Are the best things on television at the moment. Supernatural is 3 for 3 in quality episodes this season, and Terminator is 3 for 4 with only the power plant episode being a bit duff, it isn't perfect televison, but it's damn entertaining and the avenues they are starting to explore now could get REALLY interesting towards the end of the season.(FOX you'd better fucking give them the back 9) The introduction of angels in Supernatural has given a great sense of foreboding to procedings that just wasnt there before, it seems like an end of days good vs evil battle is on the way and it's amping up the tension no end. Great stuff. Whoever said that the charecters on heroes being stupid in accordance with the plot is bang on, because that show could be destroying the competition at the moment but it's such a convoluted mess. I'm still watching as it's just about falling on the right side of entertaining thanks to high production values and decent performances, but for god sake step it up heroes writers, you've got godlike charecters, a rediculous effects budget and you're wasting time on soapy plot twists. Remember back towards the end of season 1 where we were all waiting for the knockdown dragout peter vs sylar fight? I want THAT level of anticipation back please. Just please don't fuck it up this time.
Oct. 3, 2008, 8:23 p.m. CST
Is there a more awkward and clunky title than this one? I really like the show but hate the title. It's due to my dislike of the use of "chronicles" in a title. It is used way too often and, in most cases, comes across as simply pretentious, like they're trying to make it seem more important or classier than it is.
Oct. 3, 2008, 8:37 p.m. CST
There's a better title, and it may get some misdirected X-Files geeks to tune in...but judging from the performance of I Want to Believe, not that many.
Oct. 3, 2008, 8:39 p.m. CST
I take that back, THAT'LL help ratings. Anyone wanna take an in-continuity stab at why Cameron is wearing mini-skirts every other week? Does it make her leg movement marginally more efficient?
Oct. 3, 2008, 10:40 p.m. CST
...I will lose my shit. The same way I lost my shit when Arrested got cancelled. Hopefully, ABC has enough foresight to stick with the show despite its ratings. I feel that word of mouth hasnt reached far enough yet. None of my friends have heard of it and we watched it on Bluray and they all loved it.
Oct. 3, 2008, 10:58 p.m. CST
by SID 8.0
Glad it's starting to grow it's audience. It deserves it, the best show you're not watching. Last night's ep was heartbreaking. It shed the light on their family history like who the hunter in the family was. This season has a large black cloud hanging over it. And I can't wait for it to break wide open. Man that deal with Azazel, did not see that coming.
Oct. 4, 2008, 1:46 a.m. CST
I am a fan since the beginning. And it only gets better and better... My perfect television night this season so far : Supernatural, Fringe, the Mentalist, the Shield and as dessert: SG Atlantis. FLOP 3: Heroes, Smallville and Prison Break and I used to be a big fan of all 3 of them...... Sarah Connor could be great, but the cast is awful
Oct. 4, 2008, 2:44 a.m. CST
Terminator is fucking lame. I've thought about it and thought about it, and even though I know McG is making the new Ter not Rush Hour, the show is just fucking boring. The inclusion of the once famous androgynous worst bond song singer ever is useless. And everyone tries to come off way to serious. Kind of sad when the character who plays a robot is the most expressive character on the show.
Oct. 4, 2008, 2:48 a.m. CST
For Pushing Daisies. Sure its ok and easily Tim Burton lite. But its kind of lame. The whole show would be better if Chi McBride was the main star. Lee is a fine star, but he's kind of boring. I loved him in the Fall, and my fiancee is from Chickasha, but he's probably the one star from Oklahoma without a water tower with his name on it.
Oct. 4, 2008, 4:17 a.m. CST
SPOILERS! <p>I have really enjoyed some of the eps so far but the writers really need to up their game and get back the shows consistency and narrative direction. Season 1 had a really nice thread driving it but that seems to have been erased. <p>Its actually really easy to get this show right. <p>1)Stop making JC so fucking pissy. I get it. He doesn't like what the future may hold. So have him get a grip and try to change that future. He should be a character wanting to bomb computer labs and sabotage AI experiments rather than rebelling by going shopping for period costumes? (WTF?) <p>2) Less reactive story lines. You have 2 characters from the future helping 2 characters who want to change the future. This should be simple enough story generating device. <p>3) Garbage girl is a terrible terrible actress so wrap this shit up asap or morph her into another character more often. Also I'm kinda sad to see a T1000 in the show. You'll never recreate T2 and it was just too fucking obviously going to happen. <p>4) No more clean slates. Every episode needs to feel more part of continuity even if the events stand alone. Whats with the mess in the basement already? Is the future Derek remembers different from the future Cameron remembers? There are lots of threads being discarded all over the place and it's ridiculous that the characters just sit about waiting for shit to go wrong so that they can have something to do. <p>Come with me if you gotta eat...
Oct. 4, 2008, 4:53 a.m. CST
What a wonderful episode. I laughed my ass off. And what an intense ending.
Oct. 4, 2008, 4:57 a.m. CST
by A for Aristocrat
New episodes of Supernatural and Its always sunny back to back. Even good shows have a hard time with season 4, Im glad these two shows have pulled it off so far.
Oct. 4, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
I was already a fan, but this season destroys everything in it's way. I'm so glad to see it's following grow. How many shows can pull off a time travel episode without fucking it up or make it seem filler? This was the right ep in the right time. Also is it me, or Smalliville is slowly getting watchable again?
Oct. 4, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST
by Big Dan
not only is it the best geek show on tv but it is one of the best shows on tv PERIOD. If you're not watching you're missing out.
Oct. 4, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST
by SID 8.0
Another great show that's building an audience. Good interaction of the cast and good stories. Thomas Gibson as the agent that never smiles is fantastic.
Oct. 4, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST
I watched the S4 premiere of SN online, and I wasn't too impressed. Mainly, I think it's the leads. They are way too "pretty boy-ish" for this type of show. And yes, I'm a girl, and yes, I find Dean very hot, but I'm not that shallow. This kind of gritty demon-hunting show seems like it needs more rugged, manly men types. Also, it could use less FX, because some of them look great, but some look like, well, like they're on the CW. <p> THAT SAID, I realize how dumb it is to judge a show that you don't start from the beginning (I initially made that mistake with what are now 2 of my favorite shows of all-time, Veronica Mars and Battlestar Galactica), and what I saw certainly intrigued me, so I'm gonna Netflix S1 before passing further judgement. Because as I've said before, I'm always looking for good TV. Especially now that Chuck and Pushing Daisies might bite it soon.
Oct. 4, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST
by Napoleon Park
is that one of the Biblical plagues?
Oct. 4, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST
by Napoleon Park
Wait, the thought of "putting in more Digby" sets off your gaydar? I admits it's a double entendre and he's a male dog, but still, that's bestiality, not gayness.
Oct. 4, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST
but I can agree the powerplant episode had an IQ of about 3. Still, I enjoy it and don't want it canceled. Football is tough competition.
Oct. 4, 2008, 4:01 p.m. CST
that's bestiality AND gayness
Oct. 5, 2008, 1:01 a.m. CST
Glad to see himym growing in ratings.NPH is awseome on the show.He is the star of the show at this point.I do like Marshall just cause he seems alot more like me with where I am at in life. Sorry idk how to seperate paragraphs.. Anyways Supernatural just gets better and better every episode.I Had to kick my wife's greys anatomy off our hd dvr for Supernatural this year.
Oct. 5, 2008, 11 a.m. CST
enclose a "p" between this "<" and this ">" where you want to make a paragraph break.<p>http://tinyurl.com/4khy3c
Oct. 5, 2008, 11:04 a.m. CST
Yeah, that didn't work out so well. Sure would be nice if we could edit TBs huh? Anyway, check out the link, and ignore what I wrote. I'm not real good at these internets.
Oct. 5, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST
by Citizen Sane
Is it any any wonder? It was clear on the web last year that the viewers wanted more action from T:TSCC, and what do they deliver? Three yawn inducing hours of (mostly) uninteresting new characters and a backstory about a robot's origin. At least Summer finally wore a mini-dress. If she had worn high heels with it instead of boots, I may not have drifted into unwanted slumber. These guys better kick the show into overdrive if they want to avoid cancellation. Probably it may already be too late.
Oct. 6, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST
1. Rerun because you miss ONE episode and you're lost. Cable gets this, they don't force people to catch one showing or DIE. 2. Probably needs to be a little more formulaic for the start of a season because the loads of exposition are tedious to viewers who caught previous episodes and probably just disorienting without being THAT helpful to new viewers. 3. Season 1 needs to be shown again, they SHOULD have shown it over the summer, because a lot of people don't have DVR or Tivo and didn't catch how the show ended so they're now lost as season 2 starts. Writer's Strike delays and confusion didn't help all of this, and season 1 ended like 9 months ago. I for example had nearly forgotten the real ending and for a while thought the show had ended when Chuck left Ned's apartment!******************************** If things continue as they are, I predict the show will not survive season 2 because of the increasingly convoluted story. It's already quirky in a way that alienates a lot of people, it shouldn't be overly complicated as well. We're way past the simple premise of Ned waking up dead people to collect on rewards for their murders. I think that premise needs more focus at the start of every season. Look to Buffy the Vampire Slayer to see how to balance arcs and formula. The big arcs usually didn't kick in until the second half of the season, and only hints were dropped in the first half where Buffy mostly slew monsters of the week. Note also that most arcs were resolved every season--that helps a lot.
Oct. 6, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST
GIVE THIS SHOW A WEEKLY TALKBACK PLEASE. It's probably my favorite show airing right now.
Oct. 6, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST
At least show the final episode again the week before the new season premiere. I was going to say the same thing about Heroes but then I remembered they did have that recap before the new season that I didn't watch. So I'd forgotten that Nicky was dying from the Legacy Virus, or whatever they were calling it. I'm trying to remember but cannot recall what happened to Nicky's son's cousin. As far as I remember last we saw her she was in a burning house. Did that ever get resolved.<p>Sure, one could probably find "reruns" on the web. However, the people that the networks are targeting are those that only watch TV on TV. Those that use the web to catch up are more likely to bypass regular scheduled broadcasts with DVRs and torrents.
Oct. 6, 2008, 1:22 p.m. CST
When Supernatural first started, I thought it would be Charmed, but with guys. I thought it would be a poor man's Buffy. But I was desperate for nerdy tv after Buffy and Angel were gone, so I gave it a try. Now it's the only show that I just can't miss. I wish Herc would give it a talkback. Also, Smallville hasn't made me want to cringe as much so far this season
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