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Dunst Confirms Involvement In SPIDER-MAN 4, Keeps Mum On Villains (For Now)!
Beaks here...
Good news for the geek press: our most reliable source for SPIDER-MAN scoops is returning for the fourth installment!
I'm aware that many fans have developed an intense loathing for Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane Watson (one talk backer to Harry's SPIDER-MAN 3 review eloquently opined that she "looks like a foot"), but I think think she's been... reasonably effective in the role. Though Raimi didn't do her any favors by opening the last installment with her tentative warbling of "They Say It's Wonderful" (whatever happened to voice doubles?), I thought the rest of her performance was fine. It's not like she wrote the hopelessly cluttered script or anything.
MTV Movies got Kirsten Dunst to spill the beans regarding her involvement in the fourth movie, but she stopped short of giving away any other details - even though she acknowledges that there are some "rumors" out there. Perhaps she's referring to Nikki Finke's "expect another gal part" remark from earlier this month. Felicia Hardy anyone?
Despite the disappointment of SPIDER-MAN 3, I think the fourth film is in good hands with screenwriter Jamie Vanderbilt. Here's hoping he gets the franchise back on track.
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hell ya
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the third movie was just awful all around
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As much as the last one.
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000110/news#ni0575225
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Having Spider-Man Hunted would be kind of a cool plot device.
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I mean come on she is the worst part of those fucking movies. It worked fine replacing Katie Holmes in the Batman movie.
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Her boobs were look'n good in the first movie. You think she would have invested a little time in getting those teeth straightened out and whitened a bit.
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Raimi was the only person involved who seemed like he actually gave a crap about the material, but considering how reluctant he seemed to get back on board after number 3., even his involvment here screams 'paycheck!' Which of course is a bad sign.
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And kill off Mary Jane and have Gwen Stacy Marry Peter instead.
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They should be.
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Tired of this version.
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Start fresh in a few years with totally different people involved, like say Marvel? When the hell do they lose rights to Spidey anyways?
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I greet this news of concurrently shooting parts 4 and 5 with ample skepticism. They could turn out alright; but we all thought Spidey 3 would be a slam dunk, so it's the wait and see approach for now.
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You don't get paid for kissing overrated singers and actors at The Ivy.
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She has been the worst piece of the saga. Well, her and Toby.
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It's not 'realistic' enough. I loved them, don't get me wrong. But a new direction, with more action and less camp, would generate more excitement. Everyone's still sore over Spiderman 3 to trust Raimi. Some will say he learned from his mistakes, but i wish he'd learn from the old "Superman" films and stop before he ends up with "Nuclear Man."
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...Sorry, but she has been the single worst thing about this franchise. Dreadful woman; can't act and isn't even that attractive.Meh.
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Snaggletooth???
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satisfied kurtlockwood? :-)
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maxwell dillon!! with edward norton scene at the end inviting spiderman to join the avengers or something
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Over this series, she really is not very attractive - any one see the trailers to that Simon Pegg movie w/ her? She looks terrible, waxy skin, huge bags under her eyes...hate to bag on the girl, but she is supposed to be a sex symbol!
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its odd...i found Dunst to be very attractive in Spider Man 1...but in 2 and 3 she looked "different", her face looked funnier than usual, a little...i dont know...deflated???..maybe (shes attractive...just not a knock-out). im not sick of Dunst as Mary Jane, im sick of how they are handling Mary Jane...she is overly whiney, always falling off of ledges screaming bloody murder, and seemingly shes been on the RAG since the beginning of the 2nd film as she deems it necessary to get in Peters shit WAY too often...and the love story in 3 felt like the one 2 only with more corn-in-the-crap. I agree with who-ever it was that said this series needs a break. besides, out of all the villains left for him to fight...Carnage seems like the only one with enough "presence" and "cool-factor" to be considered a worthy villain for him...i mean, after fighting Green Goblin, Doc Oc, Sandman, and Venom...i think it would be rather dull to see him chase a humanoid-lizard around...or this "Vulture" guy.
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She's not terrible, but I was kinda hoping for a re-cast. I think the bigger issue now is, will the script be any good? Guys, please stick with the old school villains! And here's hoping that they adapt the six-armed Spidey saga into a 2-part movie!
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flogging a dead horse. enough already, part 3 was utter shite.
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I'm surprised he hasn't come up in any of the movies yet. Everybody loves an illusionist!
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With Spidey cought in the middle of defending Doc Connors (who would just as soon kill him) from a nasty (or not) Kraven. But what the hell do I know?
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Glad she stuck to her guns. She was so vocal about never doing another Spider-Man movie as long as she lived.
I guess it's tougher to follow through on promises like that when your career's in the dumper.
The one thing I was looking forward to about this was a new Mary Jane. I hate celebrities who whine.
Also, that talk-backer eloquently ripped-off Family Guy with the "looks like a foot" joke. And the original joke was about Sarah Jessica Parker, so it made sense. Kirsten Dunst doesn't look like a foot. -
You know, it's kind of sad that Kirsten Dunst's best performance was in INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE.
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That's just silly. Or would the movie be about Spidey returning to his wrestling roots?
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Please..otherwise- Yuck
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Bring back Bruce Campbell for his role as Mysterio; it would justify each and every single one of his earlier appearances in show-biz-styled roles.
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How about this Kraven goes to New York to hunt the Lizard and Spidey is stuck in the middle. I say Vigo Mortensen as Kraven.
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Perhaps Electro in SPIDEY 4, Mysterio in SPIDEY 5, then a big Sinister Six team-up with the Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus, Sandman and Venom in (what else?) SPIDEY 6.
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People act like it was an awful abortion of a film, yet it got a respectable over-60% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. The first half was damned good; the Peter/Harry fight was maybe the 2nd-coolest battle in the whole series. And Sandman and the Stacys were a nice addition, at least until the finale when he turned into Construction-Debris Giant (who Spidey lets get away!!!). I enjoyed Grace's Brock/Venom, even though he was way under-developed. I agree that, for the most part, the script was a mess, especially the third act. But it still had a lot of positives going for it that we geeks don't seem to appreciate for some reason... It's more fun to just call it COMPLETE SHIT, I guess.
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...was a Gwen Stacy with a FAT ASS! Hire a personal trainer for Richie Cunningham's daughter if she's gonna be in Spideys 4 and 5... fer chrissakes! Electro, Mysterio, Venom (but NO Topher!), the Vulture... all are great villains, but... Raimi, you better throw the Rhino into the mix, too dammit! And do it right this time... no goddamn "misunderstood" villains who just want to share a good cry with Spidey, then drift away into the wind. And goddammit, fix the origin story (Uncle Ben's death). None of this "Sandman did it, but he apologized" shit! (WTF was THAT all about, anyway?)
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i think if Eric Bana bulked up and got bigger he could fill the shoes of Kraven. He was massive in "Chopper"...which was a weird movie by the way.
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As far as I'm concerned, the 3rd movie never really happened. I think Raimi should follow suit and simply retcon movie 3 out of existence. . .it was a poorly executed mish-mash of concepts that had no development and no coherence whatsoever. That said, the Kraven vs. Lizard/Connors idea that someone mentioned earlier sounds amazing. The suggestion of Viggo Mortenson as Kraven also sounds amazing--although I can't imagine him being buff enough for the Kraven role.
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Joe Elliott you are a genius and fellow player!!
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For me to poop on........
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...you mean, like a vagina?
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That opening musical number was mimed by Dunst. She sang herself in the jazz bar later on but the play scene was dubbed.
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no scorpion love here? no?
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the person that said she stole a Spidey costume from wardrobe and sold it on eBay?
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1) Kraven
2) Mysterio
3) Hobgoblin
4) Lizard
5) Vulture
Combinations (not to exceed a total of 2 villains) are permitted.
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I really don't care to look at her snaggletooth face a fourth time. I mean no one would have cried about it if they had chosen a smoking hot redhead to take her place. You F'ed up Raimi!!!
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bring on the rhino already...FUK!
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I'll give MJ something to do... IN MY PANTS!!!
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and fall back under Marvel's umberella. Also how is Toby Maguire still playing this kid??
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...The Scorpion! But with the blunt tail that he hits things with, not the current pointy-stabby tail. Okay... it can have a stabby thing that flips out and shoots venom, but that's it! Also, he has to wear the green, Diddy shades, too! Dammit!
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REBOOT IS IN ORDER.
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Otherwise you may as well have scrapped the movie straightoff. I've always liked her (well not in Spides 3, but who the fuck WAS good in that???). This better be a fantastic apology from Raimi for fucking up with 3. He KNOWS the trilogy isn't perfect otherwise he wouldn't be coming back to make amends. 2 was amazing.
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Kirsten Dunst never comes to mind. Actually, I don't know who does come to mind, but I can't tell you it's not Carrot Top, either.
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I CAN tell it's not Carrot Top, either.Leave that baggie alone, Hobs
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Spidey 3 sucked all kinds of ass.
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why do celebrities have so many meltdowns, when their so clearly loved by so many people...
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thats her only career.
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But after seeing how badly Nolan dropped the ball recasting Rachel Dawes (Who would've thought someone could be worse than Katie Holmes), I think it's not such a bad idea to stick with Dunst.
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Certainly the weak link in the Dark Knight (not that there are many). She seemed like she was trying too hard, and was shot to resemble the Scream mask.
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Why does everyone always blame Rami for Spider-Man 3? He was always very vocal about liking the old school villians and how much he hated the character of Venom.He never wanted Venom in the movie. Why don't you blame the people who really deserve it, Avi Arad and the suits a Sony that forced Venom on Rami and into the movie? If Rami would have had his way the only villian would have been Sandman and the movie would have been very different.
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Bitch?
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Know what you mean, fella.Famke Janssen, hot as she is, was the best they could come up with for Phoenix and she's a brunette.Are there any truly hot REAL redheads out there? Anyone wanna help me out with this one?
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James Franco won't be in this....I hope.
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...I'd say Marilu Henner. And, erm, that's it.
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There would be absolutely nothing wrong with that.Venom, on the other hand, could be done right (not sure about being done justice, though, as the character appeals to me strictly on an aesthetic level. Marvel's wondrous storytelling of the early nineties ruined my infatuation with their Universe for year. But I digress...)Give him a solid backstory (obviously no Secret Wars) and see what happens. But that would require a reboot or a retelling or a reimagining on the big screen. I'd rather see Mysterio or the Tarantula than another cinematic Brock. DTV cg-toon, anyone? I vote yes, and I'm registered, so my vote really DOES count! Go society!!!I apologize to anyone who actually read that and wants the 52 seconds of their life back.
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The first half that is (origin section). Same with the first Superman movie. After Superman saves Lois in the falling helicoptor it's crap.
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Sep 30, 2008 3:18:03 PM CDT
The only way to improve the franchise is to start over. period.
by industrykiller!
Let's face it guys, the Spider Man films were never very good. The first one is alright, despite rushing of the Green Goblin story and the lack of Gwen Stacy, but, despite popular belief, the second film was just a terrible watering down of the Mary Jane/Parker dynamic and Doc Ock basically being worthless and shoehorned in. Spider Man 3 is Batman and Robin awful and silly. people who like that film are phillistines who clearly dont even have a tenuous grasp on how to tell a good story. there is no coming back from something that fucking awful.
tobey macguire play Parker as the most nebbishly dweeby dweeb that ever dweebed and thats just a gross mischaracterization. Parker hasnt been an uber dweeb in like 35 years of the comic. moreover he completely loses the playful sense of confidence and sarcasm Parker has when he is actually Spider Man.
Kirsten Dunst is just terrible. Yeah she doesn't look anything like Mary jane and all that, but she doesnt act like her either. Its just square peg in round hole casting. Dunsts Mary jane comes of as needy and whiny which are completely opposite to how MJ should be portrayed. While she doesnt like that Peter has to be Spider man, she understands, and has been his rock throughout their relationship.
then there is raimis penchant for wasting villains, which Dark Knight proved inarguably are every bit as important as the heroes, and sometimes moreso. And with Spider Man you have maybe the best rogues gallery in the history of comics, wasting them is inexcusable. -
Set the tanning booth for about 4 hours first.
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Now that she actually has a career?
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Marilu Henner, circa Johnny Dangerously, gets my vote.While we're there, I vote for Tawny Kitaen pre-Perc and meth or whatever phase she was in. Famke's definitely hot (Made moreso than X-Men), but redheads usually mean pasty skin and freckles, and I am a staunch Anti-Pasty Skin and Anti-Freckle kind-of-guy.
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as Kraven! Larry David as The Vulture.
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Yes Yes Yes!Isla Fisher is hotter than hell! And she's ballsy and sassy - perfect MJ material!hobsnobber - oh I don't know...pasty and freckles ain't all bad. It's the blue breast veins that tend to put me off...
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...with Megan Fox's face, I'd like to see how much she'd look like MJ if given a nice dark auburn dye job.
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and maybe Kirk Douglas as Justin Hammer.
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Jessica Drew/Spider Woman
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well nobody.
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is some more Batman. Maybe throw Batman in there as a cameo. And then have him be Batman's sidekick for a while (part 5 maybe?) and then Mary Jane could become the new Joker. Which would be awesome. And then you'd have a Batman vs. Spider-Man movie in 2014 with Superman as a referee. But then the Hulk comes and destroys everything. And have Tony Stark "Where's Waldo" style getting drunk at the match. I should write this movie.
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As for Spidey, Batman ran into the same issues. Venom would have been enough. Or Sandman. But multiple villians with multiple personal issues just clutter the storyline.
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Imagine all of the critical raves Spider-Man 4 would get with this addition. Don't forget the Nick Fury cameo after the end credits, but the twist could be that Peter hooks up with She Hulk and they moved next door to crazy neighbor Nick played by Samuel L. Jackson.
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Christ, I want to kick my own ass for saying that, lol.
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Disco Peter? I find myself bored at the prospect of anymore SPIDERMAN. Feels tired now, kinda was cool once, but its old news now to me at least. Yawn.
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it's funny, I was thinking Silvermane, but I wrote Justin Hammer.
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her singing was SUPPOSED to be weak at the play, hence her losing the part.
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Styx and Stone would be my picks.
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Would be a good MJ. She was Saffron on Firefly. She is hot.
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Seriously...and I'm pretty sure that's her real hair color as outrageously red as it is....my my my...her and Phoebe Cates with that short black hair? If I was Galligan I'd be pulling a Johnny Drama in every "hug scene" in the damn movie.Oh and shame shame on saying Isla Fisher needs a tan??!?!! Blasphemy!!! Tans are out...the handbag look is dead thank the godz...bring on the fair skinned maidens!! Bocci Balls!!!
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Christina Hendricks. Yum.
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and use the established characters....we've seen Kurt Conners....
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Crap. I don't wanna get f'in reminded.
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that was one of the biggest problems with the movie imo
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Kate Mara. Danielle Panabaker.
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I just checked her on IMDB, I'm a Firefly fan and never miss Mad Men and had no idea she was the same person. I blame the hooters.
Also, totally unrelated, but her IMDB "Starmeter" has increased 2,366% since last week. Biggest gain I've ever seen, not counting her cup size. -
Weirdly, I've always seen Haviland Morris as a perfect Harley Quinn (with a blonde dye-job, natch.)Good geek call, though!
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What in the fuck? My memory has blotted out most things about Spiderman 3, so I don't remember seeing this "fat ass", but in my experience a FAT ASS is a thing of beauty when applied to a nice hip-to-waist ratio. A woman who is a fatass and who HAS a fat ass are two entirely different things, the latter being something that is preferred, not complaint-worthy...As for Spiderman 4... bring in THE MOTHERFUCKING KINGPIN. Did everyone forget about him? Who gives a shit if he was used in the Daredevil shit-fest.
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And hope for the best.
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Kate Mara - yes. Danielle Panabaker - too 'big-faced-Wednesday-Addams'.You know it.
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That's pretty much damning with faint praise Beaks. But yeah, she's easily the weakest link in the Spidey cast. The awful script of #3 turned her character into a whining shrew but to be fair that's hardly her fault.
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Was a horrendous stinky pimply furry turdball!! And why is AICN still trying to get hopes up for Spidey 4? Esp with foot-face for this part again?
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and isn't Toby MacGuire like 40 now?
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... it's definitely a really poor film. It's not a bad film, or a retarded film like something Bay would shit out, but it's just nowhere near the quality of the first two. Here's hoping the lack of studio interference on the villains will allow Raimi to make something really special again.
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Recast Mary Jane with Christina Hendricks from Mad Men. Rowr, Tiger.
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Now thats what you call "Inspired Casting"
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but she's not Mary Jane, unfortunately. Too curvy...too deliciously curvy...
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i actually thought the young guy that played the lead in "21" would make for a decent Peter Parker...he had the look and persona for it.
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Roger Sterling is one lucky fuck...getting to plant his face in those glorious melons.
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Mad Men needs to get some serious NYPD Blue-inspired side-boob action going. I just want more of a glimpse at my favorite two assets on TV.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHH!!!!!
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wimper wimper sob
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They've included Dr. Connors in the first three movies, why not just pull the trigger and give us The Lizard? The whole film could be a man-hunt type of scenario, with Doc. Connors transforming early in the movie and Spidey trying to track him down in NYC as the Lizard goes on a rampage. Ditch the Peter/MJ soap opera for the film, more J.K. Simmons and several fights between Spidey and the Lizard. That would work for me.
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it's going down!
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can never EVER have too much dead uncle ben.
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Sep 30, 2008 4:51:31 PM CDT
TK421, that's the exact premise I had in mind, but...
by cletus van damme
...with Kraven and Spidey both tracking The Lizard. Kraven's motivations are to catch the most dangerous creature on Earth, and Spidey's is of course to save Dr. Conners from Kraven and cure him.
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...about Spidey for the first time since I saw the trailer for Spider-Man 2. I'm not a fan of any of the three films really, but I realize the potential of a great Spidey film, and I absolutely love the writing style of Zodiac and Basic so I'm looking forward to seeing Vanderbilt's take on superheroes. Hopefully he'll add a more serious tone to what I've always seen as a campy franchise.
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...one reviewer coined her.
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As long as the actor who plays Kraven can pull it off both in appearance and in performance, then I think that would be pretty fuckin' sweet to have that particular menage trois. Kraven would work if the character was allowed a little more moral ambiguity than villains are usually provided. I'd love to see the duality of a proud, noble character whose biggest fault is that his moral compass is not aligned with our society. Also, Spidey has this dilemma in dealing with Doc. Connors. On one hand, the Lizard is a danger and he has to be stopped, but on the other Spidey knows who he really is and has that desire to help him. If done right, then that conundrum would play well and provide the dramatic basis for the movie when those three aren't kicking the living shit out of each other.
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I agree with you on The Lizard as the main bad guy. And keep Dylan Baker as Doc Connors. But they could throw in Shocker on the side to give us more fight scenes
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"This smacks of desperation from all the major players who need a hit to salvage their in the toilet careers." Hollywood does not care how GOOD your movie was - only how much MONEY it made. These people are coming off one of the hottest franchises in history and are very far away from any career toilets ...
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if Raimi sticks to his horror movie roots - I'm thinking the operating scene in SM2. That's the right tone for a Lizard movie ... he should brutally kill people and maybe eat them too.
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and her tube sock titties couldn't say no to that big phat cheque
The series should have continued with a whole new crew
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why does he take all the humor and personality away from Spider-Man??? Spider-man is always wise-cracking and making light of every situation... but his version cries more than anything... and I hate Tobey's voice and that half smirk that he always seems to have. However, great movies (with the exception of the third one which was utter shite)
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I just can't get past the line "she looks like a foot" I don't know why I find that so funny!
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Although negotiating a CGI/make-up heavy character like Lizzy onto the big screen would be a difficult task. I figure after Spidey 3, Raimi will probably try anything, though. Anyway, I could see The Leezard as the sympathetic villain, and Kraven as the complete douchebag #2 villain. Talk about keepin' it old school. Maybe if Felicia Hardy is introduced in this one, she has some connection to Kraven.
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I mean how about the scene where Peter is walking past a wall of posters with her face on - is that even remotely believable? Is it remotely believable that she was the hottest girl in high school who Peter thought was way out of his league? That she is so good looking she has become a model/actress sensation?? I mean NONE of it rings true. Gwen Stacy was a 1000 times hotter and made it a farce that MJ is even considered hot in the Spider Man universe. I just never buy the relationship because MJ is very much in Peter's league therefore none of that dynamic ever works. Its has consistently been the weakest link in the whole series. BUT - if she were somehow to DIE in SM4 then I would quite happily see Dunst return. Otherwise, lets have no more of the whinyness, and the idea that she's on of NY's hottest girls. Fuck. Right. Off.
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Spider-Man 1 was good, but I hated the Green Goblin's power ranger suit and the CGI was very poor at times. I thought Spider-Man 2 was fantastic and right up there with Superman The Movie and X2 as one of the best comics-to-films. Spidey 3 was a mess, but there was a lot of good in there. The first 45mins or so with Sandman's origin are good, but trying to shoehorn the Venom storyline in there AND the new goblin plot too was a big, big mistake. It was three movies crammed into one with some very odd scenes (like Disco Pete), which just felt totally out of place.
I know everyone is bashing Dunst, but I don't have a problem with her really. Is she the perfect MJ? No. Is she gorgeous to everyone? Clearly not. But she's definitely an attractive woman. Just not everyone's type. I thought she looked hot in Spidey 1 and in parts of Spidey 2, personally, but I'll admit she can look a bit tired and pale and not nearly as attractive as usual on occasion (Maybe she doesn't take care of herself in real life-who knows?).
As for new villains - Well, it'd be great to see some of the classics like Lizard, Vulture, Rhino, Electro, Kraven, etc, but if there are any new villains I think they will only be cameos. I predict the return of Norman Osborn in Spidey 4 - brought back to life by the Goblin formula and hellbent on revenge for the death of his son. That's why one of the producers said as soon as they revealed the villain you'd know who was playing him - its Willem Dafoe of course (who was excellent in the first movie).
Osborn could work from the shadows, manipulating other villains to take on Spidey such as those mentioned above. Hopefully he'll ditch the power ranger costume too and use something more in keeping with the comic book version. I've recently been reading Thunderbolts and I love Warren Ellis' depiction of Norman Obsorn as a schitzophrenic who keeps a Goblin mask in his drawer and talks to it.
Also if the Green Goblin returns you can have the death of Gwen Stacy. If they are talking about doing Spidey 4 and 5 back to back it has to be a major villain/storyline and a reborn Goblin (with a visual overhaul for the new movie) would work. Maybe they could go down the Ultimate Spider-Man route of having Osborn actually transform into a Hulk-like creature.
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if one of the producers said as soon as they revealed the villain you'd know who was playing him - isn't it more likely that they'd be talking about the Lizard/Dr Connors?
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I am also a member of the Blue Veins Not So Much party, but i can't find anything attractive about pastiness, which, I'll admit, is definitely not as bad as cottage chesse-ass or cankles.
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I need to be reminded of Connors' presence in SM2 (and his mention in SM). Pick him! Pick him!And I agree with whomever posted above about the Shocker for added fight sequences. Rhino would work, as well.It's too bad that Schumacher didn't get involved in the series because we might've gotten a Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends adaptation. I remember buying those eps on VHS like 10 years ago, and after rewatching them they quickly placed in my Top Ten Reasons Why My Parents Should Have Thrown Out The Television And Beat Me Till I Learned How To Throw A Baseball, right above Transformers and driectly below He-Man.
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I knew that foot comment was too funny to be from a common talkbacker (no offense everyone). It is a great line though.
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Oh, thank God. For a minute there, I was afraid that the Peter-MJ on-again-off-again story was going to be put aside. Nothing against Dunst, but for the love of God, move it on to Gwen or Betty or some other relationship that was vital in the Spidey canon. I did a quick scan of the talkbacks and I see that Vic Twenty mentioned Kraven hunting the Lizard, which is what I've also thought for awhile would make a fun story. And I'm sure this is too spot-on casting, but wouldn't Ian McShane make a fine Kraven? I'd be just as pleased to see Mysterio, Electro, or most any of the other vintage bad guys. Loved Spidey 1 & 2. The third, sad to say, had its fun moments but was fairly tedious going with too many ingredients vying for time. I'd love to see Raimi be "redeemed" with a fourth great installment.
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bring back Molina and Church. Use Campbell as mysterio. No black cat please- that would mean more lovey dovey shit, and we dont want that, do we?
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Not like she has a hit for a long ass time... She totally is Corgan.. HAHAHAHAHAHA TOO FUNNY
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The more I think about it she does look like a foot
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I think dark knight proved that villians can upstage the hero, and this is the way to do it. You can even choose any six villians you please. Hobgoblin is one of my favorites, I would love to see his character come to life on the screen.
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Make it so!
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I want to pour her in my coffee every morning.
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Seriously, she has all the personality of a wet lizard. Strange thing is, most people hate her in the role, she seems to hate the role, or at the very least shows utter disdain for it, and yet the bitch just won't leave. Irony 1, Justice 0.
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When are they going to make a fourth X-men and Blade so we can forget about their awful 3rd renditions?
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... if Dunst pulled a "Walter B" in this talk back. Nothing good, probably.
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would be pretty similar to Script Girl. I think even though we all call Dunst ugly, most of the rabid talkbackers seem to resort to animalistic sexual tendency around females.
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You make some good points. i don't hate Dunst as much as others, but they did introduce her way too soon. I would like too see Rhino and/or Electro show up, but unfortunatly I don't see them holding up an interesting "movie" on their own. Bringing back Norman Osborn would be a mistake no matter who plays him. I know alot of people like Vulture but I always thought of him as a fill in villian. Kraven, on the other hand, is probably the most realistic opponent for Spider-man. Too be honest though, I don't see him carrying an entire film. Unless you go full circle with his suicide, which (be honest) will never see the big screen. If they really want to catch people off guard, bring in Morbius and a six armed Spidey. That would really catch everyone off guard
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...except in "Interview With the Vampire," there she's just creepy. In her defense, she was meant to be. Still, in the immortal words of my buddy Tom, "I wouldn't kick her out of my bed." Sexist though I may be, I recognize a beautiful woman when I see one.
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Spiderman one won my adoration with its geektastic revival of the dead superhero movie, what followed was a little excessive, but I really cant complain too much. Still a little pissed about Daredevil, ghostrider, XMen 3, and soon to be about Wolvernine. The point is Spiderman was not good, it was a shitty movie that passed as good because the effects were new and a lot of people just love the character Spiderman. Spiderman 2 was a decent movie, a little bit lame on plot, bbut a pretty damn good film. The last movie, my God, what a travesty, I wasted a decent portion of my life following the development of that film all to see a movie that somehow bored me. How Sam Raimi Fucked up Spiderman III is beyond me, but man did he ever
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you're only as good as your last film, and that is really sad. I got nothin but love for ya Sam!
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Too bad you people went to that steaming pile called SM3 in droves. We might not be talking about this now. But since we are, can we please just have ONE villain this time? (And STOP mining the Superman franchise for story points!!!!!)
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I kinda love her performance in that. Also like her in ETERNAL SUNSHINE, MARIE ANTOINETTE and SPIDER-MAN 2 (she nails "Go get 'em, tiger!"). You guys are being *way* too hard on her.
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Ian McKellen to the rescue.
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Bruce Campbell as Mysterio should get the franchise back on track as long as they don't have the bad guy repent at the end of the movie and change sides like SM2 & 3 or try to do the Spidey version of Dark Knight like SM3. Just let spidey be spidey and make sure he has a lot of good wise ass one-liners during the fight scenes.
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Seriously, after the cast and crew of the last movie clearly phoning it in why the hell would they be on board for a fourth? Oh right money. The whole trilogy was cheeseball.
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Sep 30, 2008 10:41:55 PM CDT
The main cast should remain with Rami until they have had enough
by thajackal
I loved the 3 movies, and loved 2 the most, and love the idea that they are doing 2 back to back which gives the actors at least 4 years off from Spiderman incase they want to return for 1 more movie.
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Y'know, the artificial vampire. That storyline had Spiderman grow 4 more arms out of his body. Tell me that wouldn't be the shit!!
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Her acting ability isn't on trial here; her low level of attraction is.
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And her flared teeth are endearing. Glad she isn't a phony with fake white caps.
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more precisely, she looks like Donnie Whalberg's foot after he bashes it with a toilet bowl cover in Saw 3.
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Now there's a hot redhead!
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don't forget her heartbreaking performance in The Virgin Suicides. Not bad in Dick, either. The movie. With Michelle Williams (no jokes please). I think Spidey fans are waaaay too hard on her as well. I do hope they rework her character somewhat. We need a strong, sexy MJ - just as much as we need a confident, wise-crackin' Spidey. No more emo-boy, no more mopey whiney girl. Make them the power couple they were meant to be. Just as long as she doesn't do his laundry in a thong. Well, maybe...if done tastefully.
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Raimi, Tobey and Foot all did fine-ish, but c'mon! A fresh perspective and cast would shake all the spiderwebs free and we could get some sweet, stylin', Excelsior!-ish flair in there. The comic series changes writers and artists, so should the next movie.
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Mary Elizabeth WinsteadHere's a comparison pic:http://tinyurl.com/yrq36zand, just for inspiration:http://tinyurl.com/5rtcuhhttp://tinyurl.com/57wt4b
The current MJ:http://tinyurl.com/6bu2bs'Nuff said! -
After the first one, when everyone should have realized it was horribly mis-cast, way too campy and the director was a homo (yeah, I'm a homophobe). Godammit, what is wrong with you enabling retards? You're the ones who cheered as Asians were singing that camptarded Spidey theme song and tobey's crotch was being hoisted in honor by somber New Yorkers in a subway car covered in Spidey-splooge, all the while the series was inexorably careening towards Spiderman 3 -- IT WAS YOU WHO ENABLED RAIMI to pursue his homo-emo vision that he kept hinting at in the first two!
All the praise for that overrated bag of shit, Spiderman 2...it was a terrible time to be a fan of comics. Thankfully we have a slightly overrated, though homo/emo indulgence-free comic book adaptation to serve as an oasis in the madness! You and I shall dance together one more time, TDK! -
Dunst should be excluded from the franchise, not just for having a face shaped like a dinner-plate, or that she nixed MJ's red hair during the sequels, but did anyone notice her shitty, bratty attitude during the promotion of Spider-Man 3? In the UK, she was being interviewed by a pretty hip host of a show on Channel 4, who asked her a question about her character, being one relating to a key instance in Spider-Man lore - to which she replied with a very cutting: "Do you, like, live with your Mom?"
With so many actresses out there who could make a better MJ, this is a pretty shitty attitude for someone who was given success & recognition on a plate (face). Bitch! -
Oct 01, 2008 1:59:40 AM CDT
Beaks you can't bring up Elizabethtown with a straight face
by industrykiller!
That movie is terrible, and that Crowe has been so reticent to wade back into the directing pool is proof enough. You could replace both her and Bloom with Marionettes and get the same performances. their extra long phone convo is lacking so much chemistry, and played to false and unnatural by both actors that in that moment the whole film goes down with it. Well the movie sucked from the start but you get it. It's made even more painful that you can see what Crowe is going for and how the actors just arent taking it there.
Spidey 2 is just as bad. Her Mary jane is more annoying than anything else. it;s impossible to see how that character onscreen would ever evolve into the solid rock that Parker needs in the comic book.
I'll give you Eternal Sunshine
In Marie Antionette she suffers from the same problem as always. Dunst almost seems to have this smirking self consciousness when she acts. As if she finds it embarrassing so she constantly lets the audience in on the ruse with her smug line delivery and 1000 yard gaze. She's not incompetent, but she could certainly afford to lose herself more. -
Kraven is Garbage! A hunter? Oooooooo. Come on! How boring. Vulture? Sure. Lizard? Please. Shocker? (side character) Sure. Mysterio? Long over due. Sandman? Go fuck yourselves. Black Cat? Fuck yea. Especially if Ruby Rocket plays her. Kraven? Seriously Kraven? Im hearing so much about fucking Kraven Im seriously fucking scared that boring ass lion skin wearing Kraven is in this. Sandman was a joke and stole Venoms screen time along with the excellent casting of Topher Grace. Ultimate Spiderman speaking. Topher would have been a great Peter Parker had they not screwed the pooch on Spiderman 3. I like Tobey however. I still wish the opening of a Spiderman movie with him swinging around started with him racing the Human Torch around Manhatten. License wise, not pussibly. Kraven?!
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Oct 01, 2008 2:02:19 AM CDT
And Yes Mary Elizabeth Winstead is the PERFECT Mary Jane
by industrykiller!
Confident but not sultry. Gorgeous but not Victoria Secret Model. And a good actress. Thats exactly what that character needs.
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Spiderman 3? Lets just say I wish I didnt wear my black costume to the premier. Afterwards things got a bit..physical? 5 words, "THERE HE IS, GET HIM!"
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And really hope someone kicked Raimi in the groin for those dancing and singing scenes.
I think if Nolan pulled that sh#t for the next Batman flick he would get lynched, but don't think he is that stupid.
Spidey 4 and 5 should be about setting up for Sinister Six, and really like the idea of Spidey being hunted in number 4. -
with one HELLUVA script??? So i heard. Spider-Man 2 is my all time fave superhero flick!! Part 3 had no hope of living up to the expectation. Too bad Raimi didn't have complete control, as there is no love lost due to the shoddy treatment of Venom. Hope it gets everything back on track, as there is still plenty of decent Spidey stories to tell...and the man CAn deliver.
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Oct 01, 2008 3:15:24 AM CDT
SONY LET RAIMI WORK ON SPIDEY 3 DIRECTOR'S/EXTENDED CUT , RIGHT
by brando76
Now, we know spidey 4 and 5 wil be sequel and not reboot, Sony must gift us the director's cut of spidey 3, much of the deleted scenes are great, for what i can read on the web, so let Raimi work on an alternative cut of spidey 3, they should take the curch scene at the end of the movie to gift a bridge for a venom movie... they can easily recolor the costume for the final fight with sandman, without venom in it. eddie brock don't die and you can use the same actor in venom movie, and if they add the sandman true end with the daughter who stop him and cut out the begin of the fight where we can see Dunst trap in the giant web and cut out all the tv news around the end...we can have a true good movie.
So SONY DO AN ALTERNATIVE CUT OF SPIDERMAN 3! BEFORE 4 and 5! -
yes you Mr. Writer and you kurdt420. There was nothing good about Spiderman 3. Nothing. And Dunst was just one of the problems.
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Look her up if you don't believe me. Not that I mind Kirsten Dunst, it's not her fault the spidey films are crap.
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Cause that as far as I'd want to see her. After a trilogy of a tedious love triangle, and her whinning, we've had enough.
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Great choice.
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When you compare it to some of the better comic book based films, like Nolans Batman or to a lesser extent, Donners Superman or Lee’s Hulk (not the rubbish Leterrier one; but I might be alone on that one! lol), Spiderman really is very bland. After Spiderman 2 (which is thought was mostly good, Molina was great) i think they ran out of ideas for what to do with the character, so they went the 90's Batman route and filled it chock o' block with villains (Don’t get me started on the “bad peter” scenes! Push you’re hair forward, wear black clothes and eyeliner! Oooh, you so bad Pete!). I would have preferred it to come down to a new goblin/spiderman face off as opposed to the computer generated noise and fury conclusion that we got. It would have nicely brought the trilogy full circle. But the Spidey flicks insistence on devoting major screen time to day-time tv style melodrama is the major problem. The whole Peter/MJ thru-story needs to be settled or written out and they need to stop using MJ as a ‘damsel-in-distress’ (they might want to stop short of killing her off though. I don’t think Parkers man enough to handle that! lol). Batman/Bruce Wayne is such an interesting character because he is psychologically damaged goods. The whole foundation of Bruce Wayne’s Batman persona stems from his sense of guilt. Spiderman/ Peter Parker’s origin is similar, but the difference is the way he’s been portrayed. The new Batman films have given the character(s) depth, and found an interesting direction in which to take them, while the Spiderman films have not. That being said, Zodiac is a brilliant film (who knows what Spiderman could have been if Fincher had accepted the job), so a Vanderbilt screenplay gives me hope for improvement in the series.
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You have got to be kidding me, Dunst has to go! I am all for Nikki Rhodes.....like that guy said, Sho Nuff!
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Elizabeth Banks was uber foxy as JJ's PA, make her the female lead.
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...came in the late 70s? Vulture is ranting about how he's going to tear Spidey apart and doing his usual shtick, flying rings around the webcrawler. Spidey just stands there and comments "You know what, Vulch? I've been thinking about all those fights where you gave me a hard time and realized I had a bad cold, a broken arm, or some sort of handicap. Guess what? I don't this time and you're just an old man in a flight suit." POW. One punch and the fight's over ... as it should be. Vulture really isn't in the class of villain Spider-Man should need to take seriously.
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Look at the comics. MJ has always had two things going for her. A statuesque figure - which Dunst certainly doesn't - and PRESENCE. Anytime this sexy, happy-go-lucky 'party girl' walks into a room, everybody takes notice. Dunst simply can't carry that off. Instead she comes across as a whiny, insecure teeny-bopper. Yes, MJ started out insecure in the comics. At least at first. But that was why she took on the 'party girl' persona - to [very effectivly] cover it up. The MJ in the movies - as portrayed by Dunst - hasn't got what it takes to make that work.
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If they write the MJ character in the film as "a whiny insecure teeny-bopper" there isn't much different Dunst can do with it. So, putting the dislike for Dunst aside, would you agree that the problem might stem from the characterization of MJ?
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Personally I think she's attractive enough to be MJ, if they keep away from the look they gave her in SM2. The make-up department made her look like a wet newspaper in that one. I was glad to see that in SM3 they returned to the SM1 look (red hair instead of orange for one thing). Anyway, the most important thing is that she has good chemistry with Maguire. Recasting would be a letdown for me. If they decide to go into the Dark Knight direction and kill MJ off in a satisfying way (like Gwen in the comics) it would feel like a big deal after all the shit they went through in the first three. Similarly if Katie Holmes had been in the Dark Knight the death of Rachel would have had more of an impact on me.
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My favourite Kraven moment? An early IRON MAN comic where the two go at it. Well, sort of. The encounter lasts all of two panels. Panel one, IM sees him. Panel two, IM is dragging an unconscious Kraven off to the cops. If Spider-Man was written intelligently, that's about how long it would last, too. I think I'll skip #4. Doesn't sound as though they've learned from their mistakes of #3.
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There was a lot to like in Spiderman 3 and the overall feel of the film and the performances were all good. The script was overstuffed, and Raimi was let off his leash too much but overall it still worked. The series does not need a reboot. And it does not need to go "dark" like nolan's batman. The camp aspects work with Spidey who has always been the wisecrackinest of the well known Marvel superheroes. If anything I think it should go more pulp and less operatic. If they take these two movies to tell a cohesive story that doesn't involve a dame dangling from a building (which is in all three movies) I think two more Spidey movies with the same basic cast could be a very good thing.
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Spiderman 3 was a fine film. A lot of people I know thought it was a fine film. It kept a lot of the elements from the first two films so that it was definitely part of a trilogy and was different enough to be its own film. Personally, for me, it was my favorite of the trilogy, as I felt the characterization in the first two films was rather two dimensional, whereas in the third, Raimi explored a bit more. And this, of course, all was an organic extension of what was established in the first two stories. Now that Peter has the girl of his dreams, what does he do now? And what happens when Peter is at the height of his fame as Spiderman and MJ is at the low end of hers? I found the drama fascinating, and to me, this is what was at the heart of those old Stan Lee stories, the personal drama of Peter Parker and the people he loves. Of course, this is coming from someone who digs John Cassavetes over James Cameron any day of the week. But I also think it's possible for both large and small, emotion and action, love and rockets, humor and drama, art and commercialism to exist in the same movie. I think that's what Spiderman 3 was, and I think that's why it confounded so many people.
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Lots of tears shed and some horrendous scenes of dancing/singing, but no zingers from Spidey. And the connection between Sandy and Ben was very weak. Thank god Pete was right next to the black goop so that it could latch onto his moped. Whew!That movie sucked.
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I was not in favor of the Maguire/Dunst/Raimi team returning, but hopefully they've learned from their mistakes on SM3.
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...or the WWE's Big Show for the Kingpin????
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The coincidence of the symbiote crash landing right next to Peter Parker is a common talking point I've noticed.
Okay. But what if the alien's crash landing wasn't a crash landing? It was intelligent after all. What if the all-powerful symbiote actively sought out the most powerful human being on the planet, who was also, at the same time, in the right mental state for the taking (meaning he was in a state of hubris)? What if the alien symbiote knew where the hell it was going when it crashed near Peter? If I were an intelligent symbiote, that's what I'd do, as opposed to jumping onto some drunken hobo or some other normal person. I think this theory is entirely feasible, and though I haven't heard this from Raimi himself, I believe that this is the explanation. -
GET THE FUCK OUTTA MY HEAD CHARLES
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Then you are assuming that there is absolutely no other super ability type in existence at that time? I guess one can argue that Spidey was stronger than Harry and the formula.
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I thought she was great in Spider-Man 1 and 2. I don't see why people hate her. I will admit I didn't see #3 because my co-worker slagged it and so I hesitated and then never got around to seeing it.
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I'd be surprised to see ANY celebrity in a talkback. This place is a basket full of serpents, and the snake charmer is busy picking things out of his belly button to tend to them properly.
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Meaning he was the only super-powered being on the planet, besides the villains. This is all before the new Marvel Studios take on their movies.
Another coincidence point that comes up a lot is Eddie Brock being in the church when Peter exorcises the symbiote. I think this goes along with "strange fate" that's run through all the films, where all the characters have been strangely connected somehow. Eddie Brock was like this bizarro-Peter character. And if the symbiote couldn't have Peter, it was going to have his negative opposite, and in turn, destroy the positive. -
And perhaps the symbiote sought out Peter because it could itself grow and become more powerful from the parasitic partnership? When the symbiote exits Peter's person, perhaps it took a bit of Peter's essence along with it, and thus became more powerful as Venom. Through the bond with Peter, perhaps the symbiote itself was becoming a Spider?
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Oct 01, 2008 10:13:17 AM CDT
Even more on the alien symbiote
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
And perhaps the symbiote was a cheap screenwriters trick, used because they weren't taleneted enough to create a worthwhile psychological reason for Spidermans good/bad conflict. Or perhaps Raimi just thought Spidey would look cool in black.
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Why do all the villains in any superhero film live in the same city as the hero? Why are half of them connected to the hero perosnally? These sort of films rely on coincidences like that to get the story going and the symbiote landing is no worse than having the Green Goblin be Peter's best friend's dad or the same guy Peter was doing a college project on turned mad in an experiment gone wrong. It's true for all comic book films. You just ignore them unless you're being picky because you don't like the film. I'm not saying Spider-Man 3 isn't without it's flaws but that's a weak criticism.
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but I actually enjoyed Spidey 3 the most out of the lot of them. Yeah - the most!
I didn't mind the musical numbers, they were emotionally barbed - there was nastiness happening there. Just because singing and dancing are like kryptonite to the average TBer, doesn't mean they are to a Spidey film, if there is context. Conversely, that fucking play in '2' really did go on forever.
The plotholes in '3' were no more holey than the previous entries, and the production values were at least equal to '2'. -
Oh, and by the way, everybody bitching about Dunst's looks and Howard's fat ass should be writing candid camera articles for celebrtiy magazines, not posting on sites about (what is admittedly) - cool news.
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Keep her, Maguire and Raimi the fuck away from this movie. Mary Elizabeth Winstead HAS TO BE Mary Jane, no contest. Jake Gyllenhaal as Spidey, no contest.
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I'd love to see Dwayne Johnson, i.e. The Rock as Kraven the Hunter, a big publicity hound coming to NYC to catch the Lizard.
I also wish Raimi would dial back the camp in the next movie. It overwhelmed SM 3; it was the Superman 3 of the series. I'm not suggesting it should be dark and moody, because that isn't Spider-Man. But more "realistic" (as realistic as a comic-book movie CAN be), isn't the same thing as 'dark'. It just means reducing some of the more tongue in cheek moments and having Peter Parker live in a more 'natural', more reality-based NY. -
Oct 01, 2008 11:20:14 AM CDT
To Symbiote or not to Symbiote
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
I agree that there are coincidences in all films, not just superhero films. My objection is thus. If they want to explore the dark side of Spiderman, go for it. But do it through plausible (well, plausible for a superhero movie) and more interesting means. To quote Lord Acton "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." There were possibilities there for great cinema. With the "alien symbiote", they created a plot device to manufacture an instant result. No work needed. Ultimately what they wanted is the payoff, but not the journey. Instead of devoting so much screen time multiple villains, I would’ve much preferred them show Parkers descent into that state of mind, into what drove him to become bad. And show what it takes to bring him back (Maybe a chance to develop MJ into something more than a damsel-in-distress?). This is something potentially interesting, and much more human and involving. Couple that with the new Green Goblin as sole villain and we could have had a fully rounded, dramatically satisfying trilogy. I think we’ve been spoilt by Nolans Batman in that we have seen how a superhero can be a full, three-dimensional character. The journey of Bruce Wayne, as it unfolds, is all the more interesting because Nolan et al know it’s not about special effects and action set-pieces (although there’s plenty of those!). It’s the characters we identify with that have us involved in the story. Respect has been shown to the audience and the audience has repaid that respect. Hopefully more filmmakers will heed the call.
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how she thought her career was on the upswing and she was "too good" for anymore movies...then jake dumped her and her career went into a holding pattern...now she is "willing to come back". blah! drop her. she isn't even weirdly attractive like linda fiorentino, ellen barkin, or rebecca de mornay...dunst blows...she made mary jane watson unlikeable...spiderman's backbone...spiderman's lois lane...improbable.
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I agree, I don't have a problem with how the symbiote was introduced but as a plot point it was rushed. Which is odd as it took ages to actually get to it and then he seemed to wear black for about half an hour. It's Spider-Man 3's biggest problem - pacing. It just doesn't seem to balance all of it's elements.
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Venom was required to be introduced in the film on orders from Avi Arad, so Raimi had to use Venom, which meant the alien symbiote suit had to be introduced, which meant a prime opportunity to use the black Spiderman costume. I think implementing these three new elements into an exploration of Dark Spiderman/Dark Peter was probably the best use of those story elements which were ordered to be there by the studio.
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I dont agree. It would be totally out of character for Peter Parker to become dark and depraved without the influence of the Symbiote. Oh I'm sure there are occasional exceptions in his long history, but generally that is true. It would be a mistake to think that other characters, with entirely different personalities would have to be dark or shown as corrupted by power in order to have the character be "realistic."
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I can't speak for Mr. Writer, But I just another shmuck with an opinion just like everyone else in here. Besides, If I were a plant, what would I be trying to push? The movie isn't even in production yet. Sorry to disapoint.
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He's 33 for Christs sake.
If they feel the need to continue, get new actors and lets see how a new director makes it work. -
Oct 01, 2008 2:06:45 PM CDT
what if future peter stopped spiderman 3 from ever happening
by g-ride9000
wait.... witch talkback is this
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The guy not only has the physical stature (something Tobey never had) his smart-ass personality would have been perfect for the role. Instead we get a doe-eyed, angst-ridden Tobey with very little of Spiderman's trademark humor.
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...and Aaron Eckhart as the Lizard!
Do you hear the bells of sarcasm a-ringing? -
It may too early to go with the Lizard as a villain. Yeah Doc Conners was in the other two movies but for about a total of 5 minutes? In order for a Lizard story line to work we need to see Spiderman working with Conners and the relationship needs to develope more to get the real sense that Peter doesn't want to hurt the Lizard because of his relationship with Conners. If they did it now it would be too similar to Doc Ock and how Peter simply respected him as a scientist and wanted to save him not the high dynamic of knowing him as a friend and knowing his wife and son. It needs to be developed more before he can be a villain.
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She's quite attractive, and a pretty good actress to boot. Yes, MaryJane was supposed to be a young bombshell, and Dunst has too much of a trailer-park look these days.
Pre-burnout (Mean Girls Era) Lohan would've been great. -
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Dunst has annoyed me since Pt II I Thought Gwen Stacy was breath of fresh air (I like a little junk in the trunk) But the Thought of someone with superpowers being attracted to spiderman And peter being attracted to someone other then Mary Jane is very appealing.
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Christina Hendricks is slamming She should be MJ with them Tig ole biddies.
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The Raiders owner looks just like the Vulture in that press conference. I was thinking he was going to end it by flying away.
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Old man in flight suit = Epic Fail
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...so that everyone can be happy, including Peter. No more nagging whining boob sagging Kirsten...
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Why not? I think Disco Spidey would go over well
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as the overall arc
With guest villains bulking it out
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But the more I see them the less I like them. Spidey's humor is missing, and just a lot of other little things. Bonesaw hitting him in SP1, what happened to his spidersense? Doc Ock getting punched often and not going down in SP2. SP3 just plain sucked, but I think Topher Grace would have made a much better Peter Parker then Toby.
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Vulture, Rhino, Scorpion, Lizard, Electro, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Demogoblin, Sandman, Hydroman, The Spot and Shocker are the best rogues gallery ever???
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BRING IN QUASAR!!!!!
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She'd make a great Lois Lane.
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I get the impression from interviews and such that Dunst is burned out on the Hollywood schtick. The girl has talent, but lately just seems to be on auto-pilot in all her roles. Maybe she should just drop off the grid and take a five-year vacation. Recharge the old batteries, come back when she finds a role that she would kill to do, and hit it on all cylinders. And for God's sake, hit a buffet or two along the way. The girl had better curves in Toy Story, fer chrissakes! Sad.
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If they do a Kraven story, then it's gotta be based off 'Kraven's Last Hunt'. Just substitute the Lizard in for Vermin and you're ready to go!
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Small Soldiers. My bad.
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And I prefer to not recast her or Tobey. A trilogy would have been perfect, but after the JUST BAD third entry, I'm open for more with a new writer.
But hell, we need a MATURE filmaker not just an angry kiddie who destroy a film because he don't like a character. Please Raime, don't come back.
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