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STIR OF ECHOES review

Published at:  Jun 25, 1999 12:53:33 AM CDT

You know what? I love some of the benefits of
this here job of mine. The major drawback is that the
pay sucks... but then the idea I get any money at all
for doing what I’m doing seems like an out and out
crime in and of itself. But the reason I got into this
racket was to find films like the one I saw tonight
early... and call attention to them.

I was talking with Moriarty about our lot in life,
and I described what we’re doing as kind of a SETI
of Cinema. Afterall... We’re just looking for signs of
intelligent life in Hollywood.

Tonight... I found one.

I checked with other people around me to
reaffirm that it wasn’t a random act that just happened
to work. The fella from the local college newspaper
sitting next to me, when I referenced CLOSE
ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND with it, said,
“Yeah, But I like this film more!” Now, personally I
can’t draw a heads up quality comparison, cause they
are TOTALLY different films setting out to do
different things... They just share some themes.
But... This is the real deal... And this time it is coming
from ARTISAN.

That’s right, the same indie studio that’s
bringing us THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT, is
bringing us another utterly fantastic HORROR film,
but it’s completely different.

THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT is a
non-traditional experimental horror film that succeeds
far better than it probably has any right to succeed.
(And thank god for that!)

STIR OF ECHOES is impeccable filmmaking,
storytelling and crafting in all the traditional ways to
deliver chills and a feeling of dread and eerie that’s
just wonderful.

David Koepp is a director to watch because
with only his second film, he’s building a body of
work that is building on it’s own themes.

Did you see THE TRIGGER EFFECT? No?
Go.... Go get it now, rent it, buy it, purchase it...
WATCH IT. THE TRIGGER EFFECT was one of
those films that breezed right on by a lot of folks and
they missed it.

That film dealt with the strange underlying
ugliness living within the suburban culture of
America. Beneath the happy smiles we have, and the
day in day out blasé existence so many of us live in.
We all feel so damn comfortable in our lives... The
patterns that we safely stitch ourselves into... But
when a thread becomes frayed. When we begin to
smell smoke. When our pattern is jumbled, we
become like a line of ants that have lost the scent of
the trail. Scrambling about trying to find our way...
Devolving from our civilized structure and
immediately dive back a hundred or two hundred
years in social standards.

Koepp exploited and explored the hell out of
that theme in THE TRIGGER EFFECT... But this
time with STIR OF ECHOES... He does something
even better.

Remember CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE
THIRD KIND? Think of this as CLOSE
ENCOUNTERS OF THE GHOST KIND.

Remember the smiles you had when you saw
the pretty flying ships? Here you get an unsettling
sense of dread. Remember the awe you felt when that
skinny Alien reached out to take Dreyfuss’ hand?
Here you feel sadness.

There is a difference between touching Aliens
and Ghosts. Aliens in my mind denote a step upward,
ghost denote a step down. However, both are never
believed in by a skeptic, until the skeptic has been
touched.

Kevin Bacon was a skeptic.... he gets touched.

This is a classic ghost story. Extreme events,
unresolved deaths and a sense of purpose create
ghosts.

I believe in ghosts. When I was a kid growing
up at 4526 Red River here in Austin, Tx... my house
was haunted. My father doesn’t believe it. But my
mother did. I did. My best friend. My father’s best
friend. Various visitors. There was something wrong
with the house. Something not right happened there.

The difference between my father and the rest
of us was... We saw something. He didn’t. I had
dozens of sightings. 4 of them took place with
witnesses there to share the event. I believe. I don’t
expect you to.

Often times I’ve heard people say, “Harry, well
you’re just overly eager to accept and see those
things. You let your imagination play tricks with
you.” My answer has been, “Well... You’re overly
eager to dismiss and cover your eyes. You refuse to
accept the possibility of seeing things.” It’s a brick
wall conversation. And I’m not going to win, and
neither is the otherside... because... I saw what I saw.

“O...K.... Harry’s a psycho... Dismiss what he’s
saying... Move along.”

Yeah, kissy kissy, Me love you too. Fact of the
matter is the audience loved the hell out of this
movie. Right from the beginning it played them.
This was an older audience. Lots of silver hair. Lots
of screams.

I love screams in a theater. They’re like a rush
of some narcotic I’ve never stabbed into my arm.
They send a smile straight up my spine to my face,
and I wear it with joy and glee.

Kevin Bacon is soooooo right for this movie.
In everyway that Richard Dreyfuss was right for
CEOT3K, Kevin was right for this. He’s so damn
blue collar. He pounds back beers, hangs with his
blue collar friends. All seems right in his little world.
But like in THE TRIGGER EFFECT... Something...
Strange is affecting their perfectly normal trail, and
it’s all gonna go to hell.

God it’s hard not to spoil things in this movie,
but sheeshus, the damn thing doesn’t come out till
September 17. ARGH!

I can’t wait to have people to talk to about this
movie, when I can... NOT watch what I’m saying.
Thank God for Dad.

I’m going to roll this review to an end, because
I can’t really go into it any further without screwing a
lot of things up for you. Mark it on your calendar.
Don’t let it sneak by the way THE TRIGGER
EFFECT did. Hell.... the two tributes of NIGHT OF
THE LIVING DEAD in scenes in both films alone is
worth the price of admission. This time... it really is
fantastic.

I wonder how these other scary films are going
to compare. LOST SOULS, STIGMATA, END OF
DAYS, SIXTH SENSE, THE HAUNTING, HOUSE
ON HAUNTED HILL...

Will they have the same sense of restrain.
Here, the effects work from BANNED FROM THE
RANCH is just right. Just enough. Not too much.
Not too little. Just scary enough to make it seem like
what we see could exist in our world and not the
cinematic one.

Whereas... My fear in THE HAUNTING is that
it’ll become so over the top as to pull the cord of
reasonability. I have my fingers crossed. This could
be a year for screams. I’ve already had two GREAT
ones. Tick tock, waiting for the next one. Don’t miss
this one.

Ah hell, I can’t write a review and not say....

“THE HYPNOSIS SCENE IS FRIGGIN
BRILLIANT!!!”

Oh I so love that scene. This harkens back to
that wonderful Gregory Peck/Alfred Hitchcock scene
in SPELLBOUND. That one was weirder... of course
it was designed by Salvador Dali, but this one is
fantastic. What a cool scene!

But... Hell, now look what I’ve done. Now it
makes it seem like I liked the movie cause of a single
scene.

Damn.

Ok. Let me put it this way. My spine was a
tingling like I had one of them things of Vincent
Price’s wrapped around it... And I had to let out a
yelp or two to keep from my spine being crushed.

Alright, perhaps that’s a bit strong. The truth of
the matter folks is this film is scary... but more in that
honest to goodness... this is scary sort of way... And
not so much in that.... BOO! Hahahaha... gotcha sort
of way.

Ya getting me?

Good, now don’t forget this one. Mark the
calendar now.

Oh yeah... And one last thing. If Koepp adapts SPIDER-MAN as well as he did STIR OF ECHOES... Then holy mary bucket of bolts, we're in for a helluva film. I just hope he puts as much soul into that script. And whoever gets a hand on directing it... Has a soul.



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    Readers Talkback

  • Jesus I love good ghost stories. Never enough of them around. Richard Matheson's work ranks to my mind as some of the greatest of the 20th century. Now whatever happend to the proposed Nightstalker flick??? I'll write it if no one else will...

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  • Jun 25, 1999 1:32:56 AM CDT

    Finally, after all these years...

    by gryphon68

    Movie makers are finally making some sort of effort to come out with some decent horror films. Rather ironic that this film and BWP are from the same company. I really do hope that both of these films live up to the hype they have received, as I'm close to beleiving that the Horror Genre is in it's death throes (no pun intended) *grin* I sure hope Hollywood gets a clue soon that a lot of us out here are getting tired of "fluff terror" (I know what you did..I and II, all the Screams) Give me a good bone chiller/heart stopper flick anyday, and I'm a happy camper. (Just re-start my heart later on, ok?)

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  • Jun 25, 1999 3:21:56 AM CDT

    You know, this year might turn out OK

    by nordling

    for cool movies (if they ever come out, anyway) BWP, Dogma, Sleepy Hollow, and now I want to see this, too. Horror (REAL Horror, not that Scream Last SummerUrban Behavior bullshit) is coming back in a big way, That's just cool.

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  • Jun 25, 1999 4:17:38 AM CDT

    harry is correct on this movie

    by temp


    this movie does indeed rock. I had never heard of this movie, but , before I saw it, I looked at the internet movie database and saw that david koeep had written and directed it. I immidiately got excited. he has written some BIG time movies and the trigger effect was awesome.
    I am so glad harry decided not to tell you what happens in this film. Just know that it is creepy and a great flick. Maybe it was also so good because it came out of nowhere with no hype (like the blair witch project).
    Artisan is putting out some great lesser budget films (suicide kings, blair witch etc).

    when this movie comes out, just go see it, this film deserves to make money, the people who made it deserve a pat on the back.

    Dont get all hyped up about it, just go see it and be pleasantly surprised.
    I was watching it with a girl who loves horror and is never afraid of anything, and early on she whispered to me that she is gonna have nightmares from this. I dont know about that, but it was creepy.
    and yes, the hypnosis scene is brilliant. my favorite scene as well.
    when we first got the passes to this film I thought, 'man, kevin bacon has really fallen since wild things i guess'. we thought this was some nothing low budget movie. then i found out who was making it and man was it a fun movie.

    on a side note.....earlier in the day i had read all the talkbacks about annoying ppl and babies in the theatre. and in this movie, unbelieable i had a baby in front of me, and a guy behind me who did a running commentary FOR THE ENTIRE FILM. every thought that came in to his brain i had to listen to. without whispering or anything. and it was one of those situations where you just know that if you say anything he'll be like "what an asshole" I AM FOR ASKING HIM TO BE QUIET.
    i came to see stir of echoes in the theatre, not the dvd version with this guy's moronic commentary track. i mean he was into the film, but i didnt need to hear him piecing together the plot for himself out loud. he was one of those ppl that thinks he's clever because he's saying things out loud about a half second before it is revealed for anybody that is i guess too slow to realize it yet.
    "NO SHIT SHERLOCK' came to mind a lot.
    though half of his brilliant deductions were wrong.

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  • Jun 25, 1999 4:29:40 AM CDT

    correction

    by temp

    in my post above, just wanted to clarify that I meant that "stir of echoes' came out of nowhere with no hype UNLIKE the blair witch project which I have heard tons of hype.
    I mean I hadnt heard a thing about this movie even existing before I saw it.

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  • Jun 25, 1999 7:32:01 AM CDT

    "Trigger's" camera

    by 11811

    Harry, I have to diagree with you about Koepp being a director to watch based on Trigger Effect. The movie was obvious and somewhat lame, and, with the exception of Elizabeth Shue (insert horny shudder here) and the admittedly awesome opening Steadicam shot, is hardly worth a viewing. However, this opening shot, which, in my memory, is nearly as long as Boogie Night's, does merit the suggested viewing. Hopefully Stir of Echoes will have a better movie to go along with the bravura camerawork that I assume will be present in it.

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  • Jun 25, 1999 9:45:27 AM CDT

    There's a good reason why noone saw "Trigger Effect"

    by porky

    Trigger Effect is a contrived piece of crap, IMHO. If you don't want to take my word for it, go check out the Internet Movie Database and see what others say about it. I hope this new movie is nothing like Trigger Effect because I really admire Richard Matheson's work.

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  • Jun 25, 1999 10:35:38 AM CDT

    Um, what?

    by cervaise

    "Go the IMDB and see what others had to say"? Yeah, right. By that standard, DEE SNIDER'S STRANGELAND and SPECIES II are "not that bad" and "actually pretty good." Urrk - urrRRrrp - uhhrrrRRBBLLAARRRGGG! Somebody pass me a paper towel... Anyway, methinks you should go look for a standard of comparison that isn't totally stupid, brain-dead, and worthless, my friend.

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  • Jun 25, 1999 11:16:19 AM CDT

    I "Echoes" your opinion Harry

    by thunderball

    Saw the film last on the strength that it is based on a Richard Matheson novel. I loved the old fashion, Hithcock feel to the film. You're dead on right about the under hypnosis scene, ultra cool. Nice effects and unlike "The Blair Witch Project," there are a few geniune jolts in this film. The only bad thing is the ending, too many holes (pun intended Harry). If they fix the ending, this will be a killer film. Might even put Kevin Bacon on the map or at least resurrect his game.

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  • Jun 25, 1999 11:47:37 AM CDT

    IMDB

    by porky

    Yeah, Cervaise, your somewhat right. I viewed the only user comment and they said it was sort of OK. I actually saw it and thought it sucked. When you go into the IMDB and choose "external reviews" you get a dozen or so different reviews from different sources (sometimes Harry's are in there)and it gives you a pretty good idea on what to expect from the movie. The majority of reviews (if not all)for the "Trigger Effect" are bad. Hey, I'm just trying to take some of the heat off Harry when people see this film and are dissapointed.

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  • Jun 25, 1999 12:23:39 PM CDT

    Richard Matheson

    by gregx

    How could you review this film and not mention one of the titans of horror, RICHARD MATHESON?! Can't wait for I Am Legend...

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  • Jun 25, 1999 12:51:08 PM CDT

    Ghosts

    by pdaddy

    Harry - why don't you tell us what your "four sightings" were all about. I'm betting that they weren't anything too spectacular, but I'll await a reply. You would think with all of the ghost "sightings" and with the advent of image capturing technology (cameras, video cameras, etc.) that there would be one, just one definitive piece of evidence for the existence of ghosts. Hell, if a house is truly haunted, just put a couple video cameras in a couple of rooms, plug them in and record. If the haunting is legit, you should be able to capture something sometime. But, you won't get anything definitive in all likelihood. The same goes for UFOs and aliens and the like. You get lights in the sky (almost exclusively at night) but not one clear UFO ....not one!!! And when there is a close up or "smoking gun" (i.e. the "alien autopsies"), they are quickly revealed to be hoaxes. So, why do people believe in this crap? Because the blurry "evidence" can't be proven or disproven - you can't tell what the hell it is. The close-ups are invariably easily disproven. The answer to why people are so quick to believe in this stuff ultimately derives from our evolutionary-derived need for faith. Even individuals who don't believe in God are sometimes quick to believe in ghosts, UFOs, or the paranormal. The point is that they need SOMETHING to believe in that is not based entirely on logic (which was probably a selective advantage in the course of evolution). Anyway, I know this is a rambling post, but I think that skepticism should not be viewed as a negatively as Harry seems to portray it - don't accept things as true so readily. All this being said, I'll probably still see the movie - hey, I don't mind being entertained!!!

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  • Jun 25, 1999 1:12:41 PM CDT

    Trigger Effect/Matheson

    by perfect tommy

    Hmm. I actually liked Trigger Effect, I thought it had a cool, Twilight-Zone episode feel. It worked like a good short story. Since Matheson wrote for The Twilight Zone, this pairing of his work with Koepp should fit nicely. I'm there!

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  • Jun 25, 1999 1:25:22 PM CDT

    Don't trust yer eyes

    by -z-

    Pdaddy, do you really believe that a camera is omniscient? Camera's see a VERY small part of the visible spectrum of light. I'm not saying that necessarily means ghosts exists, but try to not discount a phenomena that has existed for centuries just because a camera can't "see" it. Besides, who's to say that ghosts are even "visible" in the same sense that a lit object is visible? We "see" forms because these pulsating clumps of energy (what we generally refer to as matter) reflect protons of light. Our eyes are sensors that interpret this data and so we have sight (and comprehend to a certain extent our environment). But the universe is truly chaotic and our brains shut out MUCH more information then is actually present. Now I am a skeptic, having never seen a ghost per se. I will not, however, discount the possiblility that some form of consicious energy or reflections of conscious energy continue to bounce around like ripples in a pond. Have you never seen or heard something you just simply could not explain? If you have not, then I cannot imagine what kind of mundane life you must lead. If you have, maybe just maybe you saw an apparition. Not everyone sees a recognizable ghost per se, me included. But there is much more to the universe then what our incredibly limited, conscious minds can glean from our daily experiences.

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  • Jun 25, 1999 2:00:37 PM CDT

    To -Z-

    by pdaddy

    OK, "skeptic": Our eyes have evolved to view a certain spectrum of light. Depending on the wavelength, we view the light as violet or red or anywhere in between. Cameras were developed to capture the SAME spectrum. Hence, anything that you can "see" will be captured by a camera as well. Furthermore, cameras (and sensors) have been developed that can detect UV, IR, radio waves, etc. So, if what you are insinuating is true (that ghosts "exist" beyond the visible spectrum of light), than a specialized camera or sensor should still be able to see such an apparition. Now, do I know for a fact that ghosts don't exist? Of course not. But given that there is, IMO, zilch in the way of quality evidence for their existence, I am much more likely to NOT belief in them than to blindly put my faith in them. To answer your question about unexplained occurences in my life: no, I actually can't think of any, and I don't consider my life to be too mundane. When I was a kid, there were bumps in the night - and my mind raced to the possibilities of monsters, ghosts, etc., but that was before I developed (what I consider to be) a rational mind. Let me throw it back at you: describe to me in detail (and at what age) what events have occurred in your life that you "could not explain" or rationalize in any way?

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  • Jun 26, 1999 10:25:18 AM CDT

    Harry, what happend in the haunted house!?!

    by hal9000

    Harry, what's with all the shady details about your ghostly experience? I was hoping that a portion of your review would be dedicated to the events that took place when you resided in the house. If time is on your side, you should drop a line about what happened. I'm a self proclaimed ghost aficianado (sp?). I can already predict that Stir of Echoes is going to put The Haunting to shame. The teaser trailer was bad ass, but the new trailer is an absolute mess. Liam Neeson refuses to talk about it, which doesn't inspire confidence. Who do I have to kill to get into these screenings anyway? I'm tired of being a disgruntled film buff who writhes in agony when he reads rave reviews for films that won't hit theaters for months. I want to be on the other end of the spectrum! Arghh! The horror! Harry, let me switch bodies with you for a couple weeks so I can see all these movies!

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  • Jun 26, 1999 7:43:58 PM CDT

    Skeptical at first...

    by ausma smroc

    But this movie didn't fail to satisfy. Probably one of the scariest and strangely touching horror movies I've seen. Creepy and compelling. I just wish it would open sooner so I could go see it again. Oh well, just gotta wait for the Blair Witch Prject for my next fix. Is it just me, or is Artisan really playing their cards right?

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  • "Argh". That one word can say so much. One word can say "ack phibit I'm sick of these skeptics". Okay, maybe you didn't interpret it that way, but that is what I was INTENDING to say!! Skeptics get more outlandish with their theories and "fact-based" solutions to mysterious situations as the situations start to seem more plausible. Why?? They're defending what they believe in. So I feel I must do the same for the believers, of which I am one. For ages, beliefs have existed in an afterlife. Every civilization, every religon--something HAPPENS to you after death. Reincarnation, Hell/Heaven, Hades(not hell, simply the land of the dead), or simply roaming the earth in the form of a spirit. Except then there weren't any skeptics to smear the collective belief. I never saw a ghost, but never failed to believe in them. I saw 3 UFOs, so PDaddy, please explain them : One was similar to saturn only coated in silver, the other was a clear saucer shape that came quite close, perhaps 200-ft. above, at a 30* angle from the fat field I was standing on, and the third an odd, torus-oid object that caused radio transmission errors, and made a clicking sound that moved at the same beat that it's lights flashed. So many hundreds of thousands of millions upon millions of people have seen what they believe to be a UFO, and a majority of them are surely hoaxes, but some of them are so strange and yet so credible that many skeptics are forcing themselves to believe what they're sure is true is not. and -Z-, you're more of a non-believer. A skeptic is someone who makes up non-fact-based resolutions to counter the belief in strange phenomena that is clearly true, so don't call yourself a skeptic if you're not, it's a self-insult. On to the future of horror section of my post :P Imagine me holding the Blair Witch Project, Stir of Echoes, and The Sixth Sense in one hand. This is horror. In the other hand Scream, Urban Legend, and IKWYDLS. This is what people call horror, and it sucks and must be replaced by *raise other hand* actual horror. Maybe people can realize, once these films are released, that one key part of horror is *gasp* quality. Real scares aren't some hip teen getting stabbed by a dude in a horrifically unfunny and unscary mask that does nothing whatsoever for the plot :P Real scares are part psychological, part visual, and truly emotianally frightening. Audiences will realize this, studios then will realize this, audiences will be happy(and scared), and we'll all live frighteningly ever after. Ideally. --star

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  • Jun 28, 1999 9:37:10 AM CDT

    Stardust ...

    by tdibble

    A "Skeptic" is one who is "skeptical", ie, one who does not act in "blind" faith, or one who employs the likes of the scientific method to solve problems. I don't care what connotations *you* have of "skeptics", but the term is in no way derogatory. It is a fitting description for all scientists (by definition).

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  • Jun 28, 1999 2:00:31 PM CDT

    Scary movie, on sugar.

    by paramon kreel

    This movie has the possibility of being scary, it's got a creepy feel to it, but since the characters are ok with it all, it doesn't seem scary. BLAIR WITCH makes this movie about as frightening as eating cotton candy. STIR is like exploring another sense. It's just all new to us.

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  • Jun 28, 1999 3:26:20 PM CDT

    Star-

    by pdaddy

    Stardust (sp?) - could you let me know at what age you saw these UFO's and at what time of night you saw them at (assuming it was night)? I'd just like some further clarification. The vast majority of US citizens have not seen a UFO (at least not ones as specific and detailed as you have described). So, I'm assuming that a "detailed" UFO sighting is a relatively rare event in the course of the lives of most Americans. But, you have somehow beaten the odds and seen NOT one, not two, but THREE UFOs. I'm not accusing you of lying. I just suspect that when I look up at night and see some lights _ I think - huh, an airplane or huh, a satellite, or huh, a weather balloon. I think your starting point might be different than mine - but let me know if I'm wrong. Anyway, I can honestly say I've never seen a UFO. What's more - my guess is that I've probably spent more time looking up at the night sky relative to the average. I've always (even as a child) been interested in astronomy - I took a course in it during my undergrad days and had to spend a whole semester plotting the course of the moon. And yet, not one UFO. Maybe I'm just one unlucky bastard - but I kind of doubt it. Alright, my suggestion to you is that if you've already seen three UFOs in your life - why not carry a camera w/ you and take the pictures that will definitively prove that we are being watched by aliens above? Send me the pictures if you get lucky again.......

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  • Jun 30, 1999 10:04:14 PM CDT

    UFOs

    by demonspeed

    Remember that UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. If you don't know what a frisbee is and it flies by you...it can be considered an unidentified flying object.

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  • Jul 17, 1999 4:46:15 AM CDT

    IS way off subject

    by joepublic

    Hey, sorry to interupt, but i was curious as to where i can find info on house on haunted hill remake, see my girlfriend doesnt believe me, and i want to show her its gonna happen pleez help... ps i saw a trailer fer stir tonight when i went to see Blair... looks great, cant wait to see that one oh and blair rocked!!!

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  • Aug 12, 1999 3:33:29 PM CDT

    Ed Glosser: Trivial Psychic

    by boomhour

    [NOTE: Dammit! Harry beat me to the CEO3K analogy. But I'm leaving it in because it works!]

    I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with this movie. I know I was. Of course, I always think it helps to know next-to-nothing about the story so that I can immerse myself in it. That's the way it was with "Blair Witch"; that's the way it is with "Stir of Echoes" (NOTE: The website for "Stir" was still under construction for the most part, so I couldn't play the proverbial anxious-kid-the-night-before-Xmas. Damn the Internet! Allowing me, with very little effort, to know full plotlines and forcing me into restraint!) Unfortunately, I'm going to have to use a Robert Altmanesque "The Player" analogy and write that "Stir of Echoes" was "The Dead Zone" meets "Close Encounters" (Never thought I'd stoop that low!). "Stir" did borrow (and blatantly so) from "Zone" in one of the last scenes when it is revealed why Kevin Bacon is being "haunted" -- complete with falling snow. However, the scene in question -- and subsequently the entire movie -- was carried off very effectively. Furthermore, I really felt for blue-collar, end-of the-line Bacon as he is dealing with a gift that was always there but somehow got let loose by a "practically licensed" hypnotist (played by Illeana Douglas). He can pull off desperation pretty darn well -- OK, maybe not quite as well as Dreyfuss, but good enough for movie work (especially THESE days when performances seem "phoned-in"). The supporting cast -- namely Kathryn Erbe (playing Bacon's wife, Maggie) and Zachary David Cope (Bacon's son, Jake) -- was excellent. Kudos to whoever cast Cope! This kid is something special -- and at SIX freakin' years old (I think I was just trying to color within the lines at that age!). He'll be around again soon.

    One other sidenote: Let me be the FIRST to say that Jennifer Morrison (who plays "Samantha the Friendly Ghost") is the spittin' image of Kirsten Dunst ("Interview With a Vampire"), so maybe some genius casting agent will say, "Gee, they could be sisters! Maybe they'd look good here!" I made that call with Kyra Sedgwick (Bacon's wife -- see how this all comes full circle?) and Julia Roberts like two years before "Something to Talk About" even got talked about! =:u)

    To conclude, my review of "Stir" would have to be a very favorable one: Very suspenseful, very thrilling, a little scary, great performances all around, good story (from "A Stir of Echoes" by Richard Matheson) -- just a well-done, complete movie.

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  • Sep 08, 1999 11:56:33 AM CDT

    Better than Stigmata, worse than The Sixth Sense

    by lafilmbuff

    The headline sums up my feelings about this. It's not really a scary movie, but it's fairly intriguing. It's not as well acted, thought out, or involving as The Sixth Sense. But, it's not as melodramatic and illogical as Stigmata. And it's way better than The Haunting, the worst movie of this or any year.

    Kevin Bacon tries hard, and does okay. The supporting characters are forgettable. You can see the end of the movie coming from about ten minutes into the movie. If you're a suspense fan, you can do worse, but you can do better.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 8:18:48 AM CDT

    Stirring the Trigger Effect Controversey

    by cooper2000

    I liked Trigger Effect. It was spooky and claustraphobic and showed how people react under tense situations. I would guess from what I read that stir Of Echos is simular.
    I guess if you didnt like this movie, you like Big Blockbusters like Godzilla and Armaggedon, that are generic and have been done over and over. All look no content.
    I'll go see this and see how it is.
    Regarding IMDB. How can you based an opinion on what some people you dont know have to say about it and lay that as groundwork as to wether its good or no???

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  • Sep 10, 1999 11:13:30 AM CDT

    uhh don't!!!!

    by bustafart

  • Sep 10, 1999 11:13:31 AM CDT

    uhh don't!!!!

    by bustafart

  • Sep 10, 1999 2:56:32 PM CDT

    Harry......

    by gilmour

    I will go see "stir Of Echoes" , it looks pretty cool. I must say though Harry, when you say its scary, im skeptical, you hyped the shit out of BWP and I was truly dissaointed, there was nothing scary about that film and i'm a total pussy.

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  • Sep 10, 1999 3:17:03 PM CDT

    All Filler and No Meat Reviews

    by mr.see

    I've just read Harry's review for "A Stir of Echos".

    I use the term "review" loosely.

    In the future, just get to the point! Most of us don't give a rat's ass about your comparisons or your long winded name/title droppings.

    Just review the flick on it's own merits!!! The media has enough giddy blow-hards in it already, don't be another one.

    Cheers!

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  • Sep 10, 1999 6:16:54 PM CDT

    Uck.

    by all thumbs

    Ew. That thing about his dad wasn't necessary.

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  • Sep 11, 1999 12:16:17 AM CDT

    The Shining, anyone, anyone..

    by dr.drake ramoray

    OK, OK, I'll admit it, I totally missed the CE3K similarity, but no one else seems to noticed the "Shining" elements. Especially when the policeman "Neil" has his two scenes. As for the sceptics vs. believers argument ( I thought this was a movie site ) I think Harry said best. To Paraphrase; " I believe, You don't". Me, I'm with Hamlet on this one.

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  • Sep 11, 1999 9:17:09 AM CDT

    movie reviews

    by powerslave

    For a wide variety of movie reviews, including some by Harry, go to www.mrqe.com. Movie Review Query Engine should have everything you need. On the subject of UFO's, does anyone remember the Simpsons episode where Homer claims to have seen an alien? Lisa then says "The only people who see flying saucers are losers and people with boring jobs...and you, dad."

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  • Sep 11, 1999 12:54:54 PM CDT

    Echoes fade

    by jackolsen

    Two thirds of the way through, this (otherwise cool) film let go of everything had done well, and settled for a been-there, done-that finish. A well-wrought, emotional story about demons in our past and demons in our hads turned into guys running around with guns and the cavalry racing to get there on time. A disappointing finish to a film that could have given Sixth Sense a run for its money.

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  • Sep 11, 1999 12:57:11 PM CDT

    Scarier than The Sixth Sense

    by cineman

    Yes I thought this was a LOT scarier than The Sixth Sense but as I heard David Koepp say, the Willis film is more of a psychological drama while this is just a really great horror flick. I had that genuine creepy feeling while watching this. The way the sound system made the echoes sound like they were all over the theater. This is also the first movie in a long time where I din't find the sudden jots to be cheap because we were experiencing what Bacon's character was. And as Harry says, the hypnosis scene is great. As it started, I just had a big smile on my face that didn't stop until the word came into Kevin came out of it. This is far superior to The Trigger Effect in my mind. I enjoyed the first half of that film greatly but I felt it lost it at the end. I feel the same way about this movie actually. The ending really lost that supernatural creepy feel and became another standard fight scene between hero and villan.

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  • Sep 13, 1999 9:40:12 AM CDT

    the only problem i had .....

    by jaimdog79

    i just saw this movie this past weekend and i thought it was great. i loved the way it was shot, i loved the plot, i loved the supporting characters, and i loved kevin bacon! BUT, there is only one thing that got me, that made the little hairs on the back of my neck stand up- and thats the fact that many characters(especially kevin bacon) have the WORST Chicago accents ever. c'mon i don't think the accents were really necessary

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  • Sep 16, 1999 4:41:02 PM CDT

    Harry's logic

    by etnabob

    Harry, your logic regarding ghosts makes about as much sense as an episode of Teletubbies. BELIEF in ghosts, which you have based on your eyewitness experience, must be proven. DISBELIEF does not need to be proven. If you're gonna sit there and say you believe in ghosts because you saw them, but then you don't even go into the details of what you experienced, then how are we supposed to believe you? Your argument is basically, "Believe me because I said so!" I don't know a single person who says they've seen a ghost, but just about everyone knows someone who knows someone who saw a ghost. They're just like urban legends, in a way. (No, not THAT movie).

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  • May 23, 2000 3:19:50 PM CDT

    stir of echoes

    by zacnerak

    Look, I know we're waaaaay behind you guys over there, but here in England SoE has just had a preview screening. What a fab film, you're so right Harry to say that Kevin Bacon fits the part - he bloody well does! I much preferred this film to The Sixth Sense - to me it was obvious from the time Brucie sat down at the dinner table at the restaurant HE WAS DEAD! - from then on the film didn't really hold my attention. Buuuuut on the other hand, SoE had me gripped throughout. I am not lucky enough to have had sightings but I have been in regular contact with my relatives who are in spirit, so I am a believer. Don't let the bastards grind ya down Harry, you know what you saw. Anyhoo, back to the film. My old man is a psychoanalyst/hypnotherapist and he just loved the film too, especially the hypnosis scenes in the movie theatre. Fab film. Pity the sad bastards who hated it, were scared and wouldn't see it or were just too stupid to get it.

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  • Jul 09, 2000 10:47:57 AM CDT

    Excellent movie!!

    by jubieloo

    I have to agree, this was a refreshing taste of filmaking after some of the shit they usually crank outta there!! i saw it twice and i can honestly say i feel it was QUALITY!! i give harry credit for liking it as much as i did...and needless to say, kevin bacon looks good!!

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  • Jan 19, 2002 4:31:40 PM CST

    Stir of Echoes

    by elainemc1

    Is this a remake of another film? I just watched it and knew exactly everything that was going to happen, but haven't seen it before.

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  • Aug 06, 2006 9:47:43 PM CDT

    It needs a little more paprika.

    by wolfpack

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