Sept. 29, 2008, 4:45 a.m. CST
Sept. 29, 2008, 4:45 a.m. CST
I got my first FIRST!!!!
Sept. 29, 2008, 6:29 a.m. CST
Cary Grant seemed to rely on looks and leading man charm, whereas Jimmy Stewart was more the awkward humorous regular guy charmer, a bit more like Shia. <p> And yeah, this movie had Spielberg written all over it, from Shia's casting to the usual theme of an omnipresent threat (i.e. giant shark, aliens, government agents who hunt aliens, dinosaurs, Nazis, etc.) and the Hitchcock references. I posted in in another thread, but did anybody see the "Man Who Knew Too Much" rip in the film, with Moynahagn's character as the Doris Day mother?
Sept. 29, 2008, 6:31 a.m. CST
to see a Shita Lablah movie!
Sept. 29, 2008, 6:53 a.m. CST
At first I thought his review was well written, and I guess it technically is, but now I see only when viewed through a personal filter which only he himself possesses. He talks about how it's a smart Michael bay film, but I can see after reading this review and many others, that that is just the mask the film is wearing and how Harry would like the film to be in a perfect world. If I was a more cynical person I would say he flat out lied. Like a podunk radio station critic exaggerating to get a quote on a script. Yes Harry forgives it, unequivocally, time in and time out. As if the want for something to be is enough to will it into being true. It's really just kind of bullshit and misleading for people who actually have to go out there and spend alot money on a product,a nd many of them don't have it. Moreover I think it damages film as an institution to be so constantly effusive in your praise. It makes sure more films like Eagle Eye get made and less films that actually ARE smart and fun. After all if you don't have to try in order to sucker the public, why bother? I wish Harry would realize that when getting overly enthusiastic, on purpose it seems, to shield himself from a bad time or whatever psychology is going on up there, about one meaningless aspect of a film or giving it the benefit of the doubt for wanting to be something it never actually earns or even tries to earn. I would really like some insight on it from someone who knows the guy. Because I think it's way beyond a "love for film." Most of us love film but at least in the most basic of senses try to have a modicum of taste.
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:09 a.m. CST
by Rommel Catuncan
Someone told me that the ending is they walk into a room and there's just a fish flopping around in there. <P> Sorry spoiler.
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST
by Rommel Catuncan
and shut the door. <P> Granted the guy who told me hadn't left his house in ten days and was tripping pretty hard on mushrooms...Loves Shia though.
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:21 a.m. CST
by Le Vicious Fishus
A cringeworthy 27% fresh on RT. And most of the few positive reviews were heavily qualified reviews indicating it was nothing more than an enjoyable, if absurd, bit of fluff.<BR><BR>Glad to see you're not drinking the kool-aid that has been passed around here lately regarding this film, Moriarty.
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:23 a.m. CST
It's as if the guy who originally pitched the story only pitched the first half of the movie and the studio said "Fuck it! I don't wanna know what happens later! I wanna experience it myself! Eagle Eye is a go. Start writing it!" That's when the guy realized that he doesn't have any story to begin with. It's as if after creating such a promising opening, his PC hit him with a BSoD and a light struck his head: "What if the lady on the phone is a computer?! No wait... a pissed-off computer!!? YES!! The computer is pissed-off because the president didn't follow her recommendation to not attack those afghans in the beginning of the movie (that sequence btw was fucking useless)." Slapping Steven Spielberg's name in the movie doesn't make it fan-fucking-tastic. Slapping shameless advertisement plugs doesn't fix it either. "She is going to meet us... At the home theater section of Circuit City." *Circuit city music kicks in* "Welcome to Circuit city! We have the best products!!" HAPPY BIRTHDAY! HERE YOU GO, ROCK BAND FROM EA GAMES!
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:37 a.m. CST
Remeber int he 80's how he was the champion of everything that was wonder and beauty and fun? It's like he became a cynical money grubbing asshole. I mean did he develope a taste for the nose candy or something. His produced shit is literally sub Bruckheimer at this point. The Spileberg of yore would have found it disgusting to take an awesome concept like Transformers and make THAT movie out of it. Cynical, characterless, and devoid of any sense of wonder. Criminal. And we blame Bay a lot, but its really Spielbergs fault. He hired Bay and approved that HORRIBLE screenplay. And now Eagle Eye. It's really fucking sad. Especially after Indy 4 revealed the problem may have creeped over into his directing.
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:41 a.m. CST
And gradually become an auteur, and eventually descend into hackdom.
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:45 a.m. CST
by Media Messiah
A truly horrible rip-off of Die Hard 4 and War Games as well as Hal from 2001: throw in some Enemy of The State, and Terminator 3, and you have this mess, Eagle Eye, truly one of the worst films I have ever seen!!! Save your money on this turkey folks!!!<BR><BR>Steven Spielberg authored this story, and the blame is all on him!!! This guy has really lost any real creative directions. It is now time for him to retire!!!
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:53 a.m. CST
Most of the movie was bull...but it had nothing to do with the directing or the acting. It had to do with a very, very, poorly constrcuted script. See it was lazy writing on so many levels. The biggest issue is that when you put a story together you need a throughline and in Eagle Eye the obivious throughline was the race against the clock. Now, normally if you have this throughline it makes your action sequences more interesting, and it makes your character scenes more to the point and on the ball...but in Eagle Eye they used the chase aspect of the film to get away with quick, silly 'character development' which was basically alot of arguing- and they got away with it because no matter what the characters did you still wanted to see the next scene to see who was calling their cellphones. Now on top of that, they revealed the LADY HAL threat way to early in the movie. I mean in a movie where the fact that the threat is elusive is the whole point this is a terrible mistep, especially when you find out it was all fucking out of whack robot. And Michelle Monaghan...did you read this script? Did you realize your entire character was a plot device! 'We need the mom, so the kid can carry the exploding device...'...and Shia's story arc...becoming a responsible citizen...its just such an east anf bloody obvious story to tell...and the very last micro scene of the movie...the birthday party...was just the stupidest thing in the world...i didn't even feel their was enough of a connection between the twoe characters in a movie where they were always on the run, their lives at risk to warrant that 'i'm about to kiss you' look. I just hate going to a movie that is supposed to be covered with plot twists and know EXACTLY whats going to happen. There were so many good opportunities to be had here...i mean the climactic scene is a great visual, and so is the inside of he computer...and the rip from SE7EN where they're walking under the hydro wires...all good. The best ending was pretty simple to me...Shia probably should've died when he recieved the FOUR...yes FOUR gunshot wounds...
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:05 a.m. CST
(Spoilers) Spielberg has done it his whole career, as have most of the guys from the 70's from DePalma to Scorsese. Eagle Eye was essentially a modern action thriller hybrid take on North By NorthWest and The Man Who Knew Too Much. The wrong guy being blamed for a crime and running from the authorities only to turn it around on his tormentors was a classic Hitchcock storyline, and that is essentially what Eagle Eye was. The feeling of being watched, the scene in the open field, the mac truck exploding after being struck by a plane behind our fleeing hero, the assassination plot of a dignitary on the particular note from the band, a woman seeking her lost son, political intrigue, and the man (or in Eagle Eye's case, a computer) behind the curtain pulling the strings. All classic Hitchcock.
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:08 a.m. CST
(spoiler) I suppose it was what they were carrying in the suitcase for half the movie, which only turned out to be shots to slow the heartbeat so they could make the air cargo trip...
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST
I've been visiting AICN on a daily basis since early 1997, possibly late 96 or whenever the site first went up. The Eagle Eye reviews by Harry and Massawyrm are the last straw... I spent valuable hang-out time with my soon-to-be-married budddy seeing this piece of shit on Friday afternoon, based on the recommendations from Harry and Massawyrm. This was one of the dumbest fucking movies I've ever seen. Fuck you Harry, and all your little peons. You guys have lost touch with what's good and now you're stuck in some kind of self-referential wankfest. <p> For me it's been a long disenfranchisement. I was an unabashed fanboy until your Matrix Reloaded review came out, wherein you said that it was gonna be the best movie ever because now we have "Vampires and Werewolves in the matrix", as if that was something desirable. It's one thing to like a movie despite it's flaws, it's another to espouse the dumbest aspects of something. <p>Your writing hasn't improved in twelve years, and your taste in movies seems to have disappeared. I'm deleting the bookmarks to your site from my various computers Harry.
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST
by Samuel Fulmer
I'll take Rush Hour over Taking Lives (even though that was bad in a funny way) and the terrible Rear Window remake...oh I mean new take on Rear Window...oh I mean no, it's not Rear Window, how could anyone make that inference considering it takes almost every plot point and scene from Rear Window and just changes the ages of the characters, sends it to a suburban setting, and makes the lead character someone stuck in their house because they're on house arrest instead of having a broken leg.
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST
by Samuel Fulmer
Not the director doing a Tony Scott imitation. That's like saying a middle ground chef is a guy who steals all his recipes from T.G.I. Fridays.
Sept. 29, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST
Database. This is a given. The damn truth in 10 years time... Anyone who wants to know what you look at online will be entitled to do so. All they will need is your name. Not even your IP address. <P> There was a big discussion on this recently by a member of the FBI- It's on youtube. Look it up. Actually look up "Adam Savage Dodo Bird" and you will find it through the video's from that same event linked to it. <P> I haven't seen this movie. I'm assuming a Computer is the Villain. And even if thats implied all the way through theres no way to say it wasn't started by a human executing a keystroke to target the perfect victim. Even if they never say that. <P> Reminds me of Mori's complaint with Rob Zombies Halloween and him not understanding how Michael could know what his adult sister looked like- The retort is plainfully simple. She looks like a Myers in the face. Someone else in his family might have looked a lot like she did. And he keyed into it. Think Frank Stallone <P> Today it's Intellus background checks, tomorrow it will be all of your internet travels with restrictions against viewing your online financial history, but all else will be free game to anyone who's willing to pay for it or plans to hire you and wants to know who you really are. <P>You have been warned. Tabs are already kept on you. They just aren't shared yet, and you are a goddamn fool if you don't think that they will be. <P> Think for a minute about all the shit we dug up on presidents ages after they died. Simple notes hidden from plain view. Now think about computers/servers who's only job is to collect information on the worlds travel data. FBI guys can pull up the exact number and time of any phone call youv'e made from what ever number you've owned or used since the 70's. Fuck think about the Wayback Machines ability the net offers now for older version of websites. Yeah... Everyone was stupid to think this is in our control and it's private information. We'll see.
Sept. 29, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST
. . . cause after the patriot act we’re not getting our rights back anytime soon. It may not be in the way Eagle Eye portrays it but in some low tech manner the majority of that shit is happening. And if anything the average citizens quite opinion is rarely heard over the gaggle of conformist idiots screaming his sides better than the other. i.e. See the last two presidential elections. I’m not trying to start a fight or anything. It’s just my opinion. As Americans at least we have that . . . for now.
Sept. 29, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST
by Rommel Catuncan
We know you downloaded a Mutt Williams wallpaper. <P> We know you Google Imaged -MEGAN + FOX + OX and were disappointed by the lack of said ox. <P> We know you downloaded 'pig and woman' porn. <P> We know you visit "Golden Girls" chatrooms. <P> We know.
Sept. 29, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST
....if this is a hit? That makes no sense.
Sept. 29, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST
Okay, not really, but while people these days totally forgot what a Nazi was and use the term for people who play by the rules ("Can you believe that the policeman gave me a ticket for driving over a red trafficlight? What a nazi!"), they label directors as hack when they don't like the movie. ("The Godfather is boring. Francis Ford Coppola is a hack!")
Sept. 29, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST
SPOILER!!!<p> The crystal was supposed to explode at the sounding of the high note at the end of "The Star Spangled Banner". The only problem is that that note is played halfway through the song to the words "and the rocket's red glare". The crystal would have exploded before Shia even entered the room.<p> End Spoiler
Sept. 29, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST
similarity also. The assasination attempt made via a music cue. But what a convoluted way to get there. And I disagree about Caruso's staging of the car chase. One of the worst edited car chases I've seen in a long time. William Friedkin, where are you?<p>Of course the major plot twist is hokum, and it destroys the picture on the whole. Remember when "popcorn" thrillers actually had a brain behind them, like say, WarGames?
Sept. 29, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
Sept. 29, 2008, 11:16 a.m. CST
...is that for the most part, LaBeouf and Monaghan never make a single independent or intelligent decision on their own. They're just doing what the [spoiler] computer [/spoiler] is telling them to do. And neither of them is especially smart or capable. No question about it, these are protagonists born of the Sarah Palin era, where no public figure is allowed to be smarter than the bottom third of the American populace. You know what's great about North by Northwest? Cary Grant is out of his element, but he's no idiot. He's always thinking quickly, doing his best to stay ahead of the game even with the odds completely against him. OK, it's harsh to judge a tossed-off film like Eagle Eye against arguably the best thriller in movie history, but come on -- the filmmakers should at least be SHOOTING for that level. Watching Eagle Eye, I had the sense that DJ Caruso's highest ambition was to be compared to Renny Harlin. (And he doesn't even come near him. The Long Kiss Goodnight blows this movie out of the water on every level.)
Sept. 29, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST
You know, so it could just drag his ass to the loading bay and maybe have another couple of goons hold his family hostage so he doesn' try anything stupid. The movie is just one big logistical nightmare.
Sept. 29, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST
Sept. 29, 2008, 12:27 p.m. CST
What was the point of all the weapons and shit in Shia's apartment? GLaDOS didn't want him to get caught, so why did she try to frame him?
Sept. 29, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST
yet another one of those too smart for it's own good movies that ends up being casually dissected by guys like us even as we watch it unfold. I guess even in something like this we look for an intellectually stimulating lark, especially given this particular film's pedigree. One of the things that was so impressive about the first Matrix was that the Wachowskis refused to dumb down the film's main plot device. Further, they kept the whole concept fairly simple, thus eliminating all the logic conflicts and plot contrivances these type of films seem to inevitably breed. And could someone PLEASE explain to me why I automatically dismiss LeBouf's films? I keep telling myself it's wrong of me, but damn, I can't seem to help myself.
Sept. 29, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST
SPOILER __ Disturbia was the passable, fun watch. not this piece of crap. shia lebouf is okay as the everyfunny kid but the lines in this movie just sucked--excepting a few--and the moment i learned it was supercomputer, i was pissed and wanted to leave. iRobot was bad enough but that seems like a masterpiece now compared to eagle eye.
Sept. 29, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST
How so? The plot is ridiculous and very silly. And just about anything resembling a theme in this movie has been explored in far better films (some of them not even that good to begin with). The whole surveillance society theme was handled much better in Enemy of the State and I have a feeling by now much of what happened in that film is possible by now. The whole plot of this movie resembles some absurd Rube Goldberg device.
Sept. 29, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST
How come Secret Service Agents never seem to go for a kill shot in these situations? I would think a guy firing a gun in the air with the president there would be dead in half a second flat. He's walking around with a sling afterwards. It's a ridiculous cliche.
Sept. 29, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST
It sounds soooo shit it flips over into extraordianrily great!
Sept. 29, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST
like bat cell phon esonar. I still hate that hollywood does this type of shit. The computers that blow up in die hard 4 the on screen computer stuff in die hard 4 the elevator override bit in die hard 4. I mean computers can do certain things. Hell the 3d all the way around in enemy of the state when big willie style bought his wifes naughty nighty. This shit is not possible. Stop doing that!!! Dont even get me started on the Denzel Washinton flic Deja-Vu!!!!
Sept. 29, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST
... much less IMAX. <p> This movie was the worst 'blockbuster' that I've seen in a while. I seriously can't fathom how on earth this POS is getting positive reviews on this site. It’s a thriller where the plot doesn't develop or thrill, it just happens. Not to mention the leads are about as deep as mannaquins and half as vibrant on screen. Its like they decided to take every techno thriller, decided they weren't stupid enough for today's audience, and sucked all the marrow of cohesivness or intelligence out of them before frankensteining a series of cliches together into an abortion of a film... well at least that's my opinion.
Sept. 29, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
Really? Seemed decidedly mixed to me. I think there are good things about it, but as I CLEARLY STATED, I don't think it holds together as a movie overall. How is that a glowing recommendation?
Sept. 29, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST
You don't know what a MacGuffin is. It is not a red herring.
Sept. 29, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST
My brain hurts from suspending so much disbelief. Thankfully, my brain is shaped like a crane, so I survived. But damn, the cast is so good and the screenplay is so stupid that I have no choice but to give it a 5/10. I usually have no qualms with taking leaps in logic, but this ENTIRE film was ONE GIANT LEAP over a chasm that wasn't even worth jumping over.
Sept. 29, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST
alot of people are being overly harsh. I find it funny that a flick like Wanted that is an 2 hour montage gets good reviews and this flick gets bad ones...doesnt make much fucking sense if you ask me.
Sept. 29, 2008, 5:55 p.m. CST
And it also made better use of its actors. Plus all movies are made better by using the word "motherfucker." It's true.
Sept. 29, 2008, 6:47 p.m. CST
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:11 p.m. CST
eagle eye finally pushed dark knight out of the imax theater in manhattan... guess i gotta wait til january to overload my senses with some bat-goodness again
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:38 p.m. CST
Wasn't there a much simpler way to blow people up? There were at least two or three crystals in that place. More than enough to the job and wipe out half a city block in the process. Wouldn't hijacking a missile be more efficient? Or even a few of those remote controlled planes (whatever they're called)? It took just one and blew up a tunnel full of people.
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:19 p.m. CST
"Is that really what we’ve come to? You’re either an auteur or a hack? There’s no middle ground where professional, slick directors for hire can exist?"... I was just thinking about this the other day. People tend to take professionalism for granted, no doubt because they think that screenwriting, directing, etc. are far easier tasks than they really are. But American movies are watched all over the world because even the just-OK ones reach a level of polish that regional productions have trouble matching. In a way, we're spoiled. I think there IS a place for competent professionals (Jay Roach comes to mind, and maybe Frank Tashlin from an earlier era), though there's no mystery why those guys never get the accolades of the auteur types. I'm not sure if these musings are relevant to EAGLE EYE, which I haven't yet seen and for all I know is unalloyed garbage, but I've always thought that the fanboys who keep saying things like "Give me 50 million and I can make a better movie" had better hope that their wish never comes true.
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:32 p.m. CST
I found this one to be quite the gargantuan megaturd. Also, I really do find Shia's A-list status (relative to his acting range)less and less justifiable. But nevermind all that. Moriarty, my man, it was that,"...but Caruso has an innate sense of geography that serves him well overall..." line regarding the action filmatics that I just had to chime in on. If there was one thing that was glaringly and infuriatingly obvious about this movie's action sequences, it was the TOTAL ABSENCE of the slightest ounce of any geographic or spatial continuity whatsoever. During the car chases, it literally can't be discerned where car A is in relation to car B or even which friggin direction they're going in. It's time for all of us to begin to recognize this spastic-cam crap as not just failure in the context of action filmatics, but filmaking overall. If this is in fact the art of VISUAL storytelling, than competent translation of movement within the frame rates as an ABC level fundamental.
Oct. 3, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST
First, it was all the goddamn references. I found them very very distracting. <p> All that HAL bullshit. The soldier is even called Bowman for fuck's sake. Glowing red eye, deadpan voice (Julianne Moore?) and so on. <p> THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH. Oh yes, I can handle a "homage" from time to time, but getting your climax completely out of another movie's climax is where I draw the line. I hated that fucking scene. Sure, it was very well staged, and all, but come one. Hitch did the exact same thing, how could you give that a pass, Moriarty? <p> All the stupid fucking shit: Too many questions. First of all, as Mori says, the computer was pretty much fucking omnipotent. The stuff it pulls in the movie goes far beyond anything possible. So why go for the most complex and ridiculous plan to kill the president? Why not make a truck run a red light and smash him? Why not just crash Air Force One? I get we need a plot and all, but if you think a little about HAL's plan, shit... Here's another: In the end, all they do to "kill" HAL is fucking smash it with a crowbar. Really?! All they had to do was THAT?! Come on. <p> I think you were too kind on this movie, man.