Sept. 28, 2008, 3:33 a.m. CST
I feel like the premise of the show is kind of good, but that first season finale kind of put me off. Everything was too nice and pat...
Sept. 28, 2008, 3:33 a.m. CST
Sept. 28, 2008, 3:56 a.m. CST
Seriously Capone, why would you recommend someone to start at the third season? Would you tell someone to start watching LOST or Battlestar at the beginning of third season? This a story with character arcs that continue through the seasons and should be watched from the beginning.
Sept. 28, 2008, 4 a.m. CST
I just said a viewer should have no trouble doing so.
Sept. 28, 2008, 4:12 a.m. CST
First episode of season three has been torrentable for a month+. <p> Killing Lila off was the most retarded shit this show did, since killing Rudy...Dexter has proved itself to be so square-safe, it's a circle. This is the Jack Johnson of serial-killer-centric series... <p> I love Michael C. Hall, but he really is all there is to the series, especially with Doakes gone and Harry's flashbacks happening way too infrequently.
Sept. 28, 2008, 4:22 a.m. CST
It's a shame you don't actually use the inviso spoiler space for, you know, actual spoilers. <p> And would it kill you proof read the thing? Spelling TWO as TO, and using AT for AND? <p> Are the writers at AICN no better than some talkbackers, who just want to put ANY old shit out there and cry "FIRST!!!" ? <p> For anyone who cares, but hasn't already used BitTorrent to see this episode, the BIG news (for me) was that this episode featured more naked Julie Benz than the previous two seasons combined. She is still a hottie.
Sept. 28, 2008, 4:27 a.m. CST
They both had to die. Not only was it the correct capstone to the season, keeping the form that each season is like a self-contained novel, they both marked necessary advancements in Dexters character. <p> Killing Rudy, his brother and fellow killer, link to a past and family he doesn't remember. Killing Lila, the one person who knew who he was and accepted him for what he did. Both of these things show that Dexter has no interest in his original family, and no interest in being understood. He is just Dexter. <p> I expect this season, especially based on the first episode, to focus on whether or not he needs his modern family, which today includes Debra, Rita, and the kids.
Sept. 28, 2008, 4:35 a.m. CST
That's an interesting way to look at it. And yeah I don't get when people complain about Rudy or Lila being killed... Would it really have made sense, or provided any satisfaction, if they weren't?
Sept. 28, 2008, 4:58 a.m. CST
you've already seen the first 4 episodes of season 3. can't wait for this season to start. <p> dexter, shield, and pushing daisies are the 3 american series i've been waited patiently for the new seasons to start.
Sept. 28, 2008, 6:17 a.m. CST
The first two season were great and I'm looking forward to season 3 to continue the shows feel.
Sept. 28, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST
FUCK YOU MORGAN!!!
Sept. 28, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST
Is one of thoese shows that just works with no effort it seams. I noted this fact from the first episode every actor fell straight into there character with NO problem. V'Shael is right those characters had to go, Dexter is dexter plain and simple, the only one that will know dexter for what he is, is the audience no one else should plain and simple. If the writers forget that dexter won't be as special.
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST
by Toe Jam
i watched the entire first season on cbs without having seen it on showtime, then watched the first couple episodes of season two on dvd. i really found the difference negligible. beyond the cleaned-up language and occasional nudity, i really don't think cbs edited much. almost all of the gore went untouched in season one, it seemed. final verdict: the cbs version of "dexter" is just as good as the showtime version.
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:46 a.m. CST
by Toe Jam
i'll take this opportunity to ask any directv customers if they enjoy their service. i'm getting directv next week, and i'd like to hear some opinions before i fully commit. more specifically, is it better than comcast, particularly in the denver area?
Sept. 28, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST
Sept. 28, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST
Cuz this show is better than Buffy, and I am a fan of that show, and every CSI show, and quite frankly 95% of the crap out there. This is gold. Pure gold. Get with it. Stop focusing on SHOWRUNNERS to determine if you will watch something.
Sept. 28, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST
This site made its name on letting spies subvert embargoes by publishing their early reviews. Why not do the same for pre-air television shows?
Sept. 28, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST
dude, read the books. seriously, doakes got off EASY in the series, lol.
Sept. 28, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST
:barkbark: would have to agree
Sept. 28, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST
its about time DEXTER got a little support around here. I cant wait to jump on here after tonight's episode. i for one am glad that Lila and Rudy are dead... each was the end of a story arc and lead to an evolution in Dexter's character. and as much as i was sad to see a nemisis like Doakes go out like that, it was necessary... i will miss his expletive greetings for Dexter. "what are you smiling about you fucking psycho?" shit like that cracks me up. when Dexter says "I own you." and headbutts Doakes then calmly walks away....that was possibly the greatest moment in the history of television. this show is like an onion, with so many layers, just like ogres, or parfaits. everybody loves parfaits.
Sept. 28, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST
I hope they keep the soap opera drama to a minimum this season. The first episode is promising.
Sept. 28, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST
by Banzai Rootskibango
...I'm 5 episodes in and I'm enjoying it quite abit. It's different, you know? <P> Once I get through the first two seasons I'm going to have to make a decision for Sunday nights... <P> ...True Blood or Dexter. I think right now I'm leaning towards Dexter.
Sept. 28, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST
Nuff said. One of the best TV dramas. Underwatched.
Sept. 28, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST
I like the direction the children were heading in the books. I preferred the way Doakes was handled in the books and Debs beau. Same with the ring. <p> Third book sucked though.
Sept. 28, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST
by Cletus Van Damme
Seriously, some of the best TV on TV. You probably could jump right into season 3, but you'd be cheating yourself by being exposed to spoilers regarding the first two seasons.
Sept. 28, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST
Damn funny. Considering Brit mainstream tv is like cable here it would do well as an import.
Sept. 28, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST
an ungodly amount of HD channels plus an easy to use DVR. the only problem is their prices - you really need to get everything you want right out the gate, because otherwise they'll charge at least double. other places lease out a box free of charge (plus monthly fee and all), but if you want to upgrade to HD DVR later on, it costs you $200 just to LEASE the box, plus the $5 a month DVR fee. if you want to actually buy it to keep? $750. they charge out the ass, and apparently they're being investigated by the government for charging too much, but if you have the money it's totally worth it.
Sept. 28, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST
Just finished watching the 2nd season (aired last week here in the UK). And I will most certainly be watching the third. A couple of episodes into the first season I wasn't sure whether I would stick with this - a couple of episodes later I knew it was one to watch. I feared the 2nd season couldn't match the strong first season - but you know, it pretty much did. I'm genuinely interested where they'll take the show in it's third year. Along with The Wire, it's currently the only US show I watch every epsiodes of. Lost and Heroes I waved goodbye a while ago.
Sept. 28, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST
by Dr Gregory House
Certainly in this case. Dexter, Weeds, Californication....they all pwn the competition. Hopefully, Showtime won't pull an HBO on these 3 shows and pull the rug out under the fans, like they did for Deadwood and Carnivale, 2 other great shows. Its a shame we have to pay extra to see quality programming, thanks to the networks mind-numbing drivel like American Idol and Americas Got Talent, but these shows are worth the extra cost.
Sept. 28, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST
"And if, like me, you’ve not yet seen a lot of “Dexter,” you’re got plenty of company."...really? "...you are got plenty of company." great English guys!
Sept. 28, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST
you're new here, aren't you...
Sept. 28, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST
A Dexter talkback. This is awesome and am pumped for tonights episode.
Sept. 28, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST
by Solomon Kane
Man are you right! I didn't like the exposition regarding the Dark Passenger and it's origins. Too sci-fi. Really detracted from the Dexter I'd come to know.
Sept. 28, 2008, 4:18 p.m. CST
The first season was excellent whilst the second season just stunk terribly. I couldn't stand the second season, it was a huge sophomore slump IMO. I hope the third season is better. Also I think I'll miss Doakes.
Sept. 28, 2008, 4:36 p.m. CST
no...not at all. i just rarely post. and i know the typos and horrible grammar run rampant on this site, it's just you'd kinda hope that after all the years the contributors have been doing this that they'd have learned something by now instead of coming across as some illiterate with the English comprehension of an immigrant fresh off the boat!
Sept. 28, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST
sorry, Dexter is a well-made show with good writing. But better than Buffy? Sorry, but Dexter lacks the requisite greatness to compete with Buffy, let alone win that race...
Sept. 28, 2008, 7:44 p.m. CST
by Toe Jam
i can spot at least half a dozen egregious violations of basic grammar rules in your last comment. so stfu and leave the criticism to high school english teachers and other professionals who actually know what they're talking about. douche.
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:06 p.m. CST
A die a little on the inside.
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:12 p.m. CST
by Amy Chasing
as a lover of seasons 1 & 2 I gotta say I thought it's starting slowly. Hope the next episodes pick up the pace a bit as of course they were introducing characters and story in the first episode. I hope they keep the continuous story-arc going and not make the cases episodic because it'd be a pity if this show ended up like Bones (which I thought went downhill from season 3). <P> But IMHO Dexter is one of the best shows on TV. Up there with House and BSG. Comparisons to Buffy are as silly as comparing Jekyll to Harvey Birdman.
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:14 p.m. CST
Why so many will continue to watch American Idol yet hardly anyone will watch shows like Dexter really pisses me off. I will miss Doakes this season. MOTHER FUCKER!!
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:35 p.m. CST
The books had a very interesting angle on Dexter's murderous side which may or may not have involved something vaguely supernatural in origin...and if done well this whole plot would be fucking amazing in the show...unfortunately after season one the show writers have thrown out the idea of adapting anything from Dearly Devoted Dexter, or Dexter In The Dark...unfortunately I haven't yet caught up with all of season two, let alone season three, but I know its different, not bad, just different, and its dissapointing that the show has just DECIDED to disregard the rest of the character's mythology. They're also missing out on my absolute favourite bit of the books which is the idea that Rita's kids are just as nuts as Dexter as a result of their father and that Dexter becomes their mentor and teaches them the Harry Code. It reminds me of Nolan just REFUSING to use Robin in his Batman films. I understand with any adaptation their are issues but for the love of God it seems arraogant to throw out fantastic material.
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:40 p.m. CST
Sorry, I refuse to take criticism in any topic from someone who resorts to "webspeak" such as "STFU". I never claimed that I was some perfectionist with my own English and/or grammar. I'm simply stating that a website that's predominantly text-based should (again, after all these years) have better spelling, grammar and overall English capabilities. (By the way, you didn't impress anyone by using a big word like "egregious".)
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:42 p.m. CST
dont think that showtime owns the rights to the third book...and personally, i dont like the concept that every child who experiences trauma will become a serial killer
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:51 p.m. CST
I'm a Dexter fan through and through (even though that abysmal second season tested me) but still it doesn't hold a candle to HBO's finest. The Sopranos and most of all The Wire. Now you guys wanna watch a GOOD showtime show? Watch "Brotherhood". Support that, fuck Dexter. That show needs the viewers.
Sept. 28, 2008, 10:13 p.m. CST
Pretty much every other show on HBO and most of Showtime is higher quality than Dexter. Dexter the character is great, and well-acted. All the rest -- story, supporting characters, surprises along the way -- is trite and belonging more on something like CBS. Brotherhood is far more complex, surprising, and emotional. The Wire was amazing. The Sopranos was amazing. Six Feet Under was fantastic, as is The Shield. But every time I read glowing praise for Dexter I can't help but think of some 17-year-old who's never seen any of those other shows all the way through, never seen much of anything off network television, but was drawn to Dexter because serial killers are all sorts of cool 'n shit. I'm still watching it, though -- it's good, just not great -- here's hoping something happens that's more surprising than anything we've seen to date. Dexter headbutting Doakes was funny, but as far as "best moments" in television go... no, not by a long stretch.
Sept. 28, 2008, 10:34 p.m. CST
by Nozoli Apples
My Dexter watching partner and I have been excitedly waiting for season 3, I'm so glad it's finally here. Dexter and Deadwood are the two best shows I've discovered since Lost started.
Sept. 29, 2008, 2:14 a.m. CST
this show needs more people to watch it. and waqman and kesoze4, obviously you dont watch this show. you probably watched 1 or 2 episodes and gave up. 90% of the people i have introduced to this show are addicted to it.
Sept. 29, 2008, 6:22 a.m. CST
And this show is the second best show on tv right now. Trust me. It's the closest thing to Buffy there is right now. Tight knit, intelligent story telling that is developed over a season and wrapped perfectly in a mind blowing finale. Sound like Buffy? It's Dexter too. You should really go back and watch the first 2 seasons, regardless of the Charmed douche, I assure you you'll have no problem comparing this show to your other faves. Assuming there is no weak season a la 24, I'd definitely put it up there with Twin Peaks, Buffy and BSG when its all over.
Sept. 29, 2008, 6:36 a.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
I was disappointed that Cane didn't make it. Smits, Elizondo, and oh crap, can't remember name, the guy from Lost, Rita Moreno. It was a good cast. Not all the episodes flowed, but the ones that did gel together were great.
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:06 a.m. CST
this is a basically a complete description of the episode (spoiling it for all that wouldn't have seen it) with IMHO little real added value. IMHO it doesn't do much service to a show when you spoil it all for potential viewers.
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:16 a.m. CST
A "review" of the show lets you know if it is or is not worth your time. This essentially spoils the entire show by letting you know everything that happens. I'm glad I didn't read it until after the first episode aired.
Sept. 29, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST
People like to suck them off and pay about a hundred bucks for each season on DVD but Dexter holds its own just fine and I think The Shield is infinitely better than the Wire. Also, The Sopranos was vastly overrated and the last two seasons were mostly painful to watch. Personally, I think Flight of the Conchords is one of the better things on the network right now but reagrdless, Dexter can hold it's own with anything on HBO.
Sept. 29, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST
The first two seasons ran on such constant high stakes, I wasn't sure they would do something that brought the tension but didn't feel like a repeat. So far they are doing pretty well with that. I thought the logical conclusion last season would have been for Dexter to get caught and go to prison. I hope we do get a season of that before the show ends.
Sept. 29, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST
I fucking love fucking swearing, but when you fucking swear every fucking second or third fucking word, it fucking sounds like you're just fucking swearing for the fuck of it. Or maybe she's just a bad fucking actress.
Sept. 29, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST
It's exactly the kind of show you'd be likely to proclaim, "One of the finest 60-minute audio-video streams ever transmitted to Herc's magic rectangular box!" The first season is by far the best; Netflix those shiny discs post-haste and bask in the glow of its televisual brilliance. Sadly, its writing staff does not contain any of the extra-brainy superscribes who drafted five-star Buffy episodes, but I think you'll still find that it's good enough to skip Dancing With the Stars for.
Sept. 29, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST
Which may explain why it has a small audience. It took me a couple of eps to get this show's appeal.
Sept. 29, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST
Nope, seen them all except 3.1 now. Funny how no matter how much I say I *like* Dexter, I just don't *love* it, people still take offense and insist I can't be watching the same show they're watching. My only point: if you like Dexter, then damn, you're gonna be psyched when you get a load of some of the other, much better stuff out there. Well, this is assuming you're looking for quality, a great supporting cast, real surprises, and not just blood spatter and flashbacks, in which case Dexter probably *is* your best show ever.
Sept. 29, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST
Go watch the first season, then go read the 2nd book, then feel sad that the rest sucks. Sorry, season 2 blew. It was so terrible I can't even begin to describe how bad it all was. Doakes should not have been killed, Rita shouldn't have existed, all of the supporting casts' subplots were trite and boring. Dexter should have focused more on Dexter, killing and his lack of humanity. <p> While I agree the killing Rudy was a good ending to that arc, leaving him alive would have made it so much more interesting. Dexter allowing a serial killer to live, hearing about murders and knowing who committed them and wondering if he'd ever come back. It was an ace in the hole.
Sept. 29, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST
What's the differences? I've watched and enjoyed the two seasons, but some of the comments here make me curious... What happens to Doakes in the books? Any other big departure? Please guys, throw me a bone here.
Sept. 29, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST
I was wondering where the writers would take Dexter after the first two seasons, and I'm completely pleased at the direction they've chosen. Without giving away any spoilers, the two story arcs this season appear to be the unusual ramifications arising out of Dexter's latest kill, and the stunning news he learns at the end of the episode. Both arcs are going to show us Dexter from a fresh new perspective. Not bad for a series' third season.
Sept. 29, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST
And the author has already moved into the realms of rehabilitating his monster creation, so that people won't have to feel bad about rooting for him. Like defanging Hannibal Lector, by giving him a sympathetic past and shit like that. Only the method used to rehabilitate Dexter is stupid and supernatural.
Sept. 29, 2008, 7:22 p.m. CST
Because Jimmy Smits helped out Star wars so well....
Sept. 29, 2008, 8:39 p.m. CST
One night, my band played a gig in Princeton, NJ and Jimmy was there hanging out. Well, we got a picture of him with the band and he was the coolest dude I ever met. He ws like, "That was you guys playing up there? Man, you guys are gooooood!" JIMMY RULES!!!
Sept. 29, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST
..and a whore. For Time Warner and every other corp that pulls his pud. Oh, my god what a phony! Never google MacFaux.
Sept. 29, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST
who the fuck would live in a town that is vampire central? its like in the power rangers when the same town gets trashed by giant monsters day after day... and they just rebuild. a show built around the idea that nobody would just move away is ridiculous.
Sept. 30, 2008, 5:53 a.m. CST
!!!!SPOILERS!!!! That season packed in so much: Dexter on the run from the FBI, Psycho killer girlfried, Doakes finally discovering his secret, Dexter finding his mother's killer, Dex discovering his father committed suicide. Freakin awesome!
Sept. 30, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST
...but still better as 90% of the rest we see on the tube.... Start with season 1. Season 2 gets up to speed in the middle of the season. But the ending was a crowd pleaser. Anyway i love the show. Great television!! Go and check it out on DVD. P.S. 3.1. was great!! Jimmy Smits is a great addition to the show.
Sept. 30, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST
Sept. 30, 2008, 7:27 p.m. CST
Both were excellent but Season 2 just never let up. After each episode ended tell me you weren't thinking "how the hell is Dexter going to get out of this?" The first time a show has had me on the edge of my seat since the early days of Lost.
Sept. 30, 2008, 8:04 p.m. CST
by 300 monkeys
was cleaned up for CBS in the recording studio - you better freakin' believe it!
Sept. 30, 2008, 8:11 p.m. CST
by 300 monkeys
You're an idiot. What the TV writers came up with for Season 2 is hugely superior to the crap-fest that is "Darkly Dreaming Dexter." And if you still think Jeff Lindsay is not a hapless hack, just try reading "Dexter In The Dark." He created an amazing character - voice and all - but the man knows fuck-all about plotting a novel.
Sept. 30, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST
<p>Granted, season 2 went in a bad direction, but I still loved every episode. This season appears to be going even further in that direction. That is turning Dexter into a human being. He shouldn't have a conscience. What made him cool in S1 is that he was a serial killer with a code, but apart from that code, he seemed just as amoral as any other psycho. And every 'normal' thing in his life was a fiction.</p> <p>His relationship with Rita should have never advanced beyond the dysfunctional stage. He should have never felt much guilt over the death of that dude in the drug house either. They shouldn't be putting him so front and center with the dude's brother like they are, it feels so contrived. I still have hope that it'll get better, but this show is starting to suffer from the curse.</p> <p>You know the curse. Whenever you like a character for being bad, they inevitably make them good. Sylar on Heroes is a recent example. Spike on Buffy. Crais and Scorpius on Farscape. Jane on Serenity. Weevil and Logan on Veronica Mars. Cordelia on Angel (they took away her edge). The Cylons on BSG. And to some extent Al Swearingen on Deadwood. You can even argue Ben on Lost. I imagine they would have made Jim Profit a heck of a swell guy eventually, had FOX not canceled that show. Just once, I'd like them to keep a character dark through the duration of the show. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.</p>
Sept. 30, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST
...and you haven't seen Profit, rent it. I consider it the spiritual forerunner of this show, even if the virtual reality computer interfaces will make the show seem dated to the millisecond. Consider Profit, Dexter with a goal. There are only 8 episodes, so it ain't much of a investment.
Sept. 30, 2008, 10:17 p.m. CST
by 300 monkeys
Me for opinions. Dexter in the books is more or less exactly the same character, but everything else is very different. You should just read the first one. It's pretty good and it's a fast read, but I think you'll find it a letdown after watching the show, especially in terms of supporting characters and subplots. The second and third books go off on really unfortunate tangents, imnsho. The whole Lila-Doakes thing was much better than anything in them. This is the rare case - maybe the only case - of the adaptation being superior to the the original.
Sept. 30, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST
by 300 monkeys
don't you think they are laying it on awfully heavy with Rita and Dexter's "normality." I'm expecting things to start to go deliriously wrong there, sooner rather than later. and I'm not sure I think that Dexter feels guilt .. fear of being found out, yes, but not necessarily guilt.
Oct. 1, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST
<p>Yes, I'm sure things will go wrong with Dexter and Rita. I just have a problem with him appear so comfortable in the relationship when he started out faking the whole thing just to fit in. Even if he acts comfortable, his inner monologue should indicate otherwise.</p> <p>As for fear vs. guilt, it sure seemed like guilt to me. After all, he found the tooth and any other DNA evidence (like hair) can be explained by him being called to the crime scene. And in S2, when the entire police force was against him, I believe he mentioned that it made him feel exhilarated, rather than afraid. He was feeling guilt over killing a "good" guy. They might be able to redeem this if, after killing his next "bad" guy, Dexter discovers that it doesn't have the same kick as killing the good ones and he starts too branch out, in line with partially rejecting Harry's code in S2.</p> <p>I guess we'll see. It has been my favorite show, so I still have faith in it. I'm just a little worried because every other show I like has started out pretty weak this season, and I'm just worried that bad writer phenomenon will spread to my other favorites like Dexter and tonight's Pushing Daisies.</p>