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“You Couldn’t Keep Your Mouth Shut!!” Six Month Leave!! Sunday Brings MAD MEN 2.9!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
I am – Hercules!!
“One day you lose someone who’s important to you!! You’ll see!!”
“Your loyalty is starting to become a liability!!”
“Listen, if your mind’s made up, I’m not going to talk you into it!!”
“I thought you could talk anyone into anything!!”
“I wish it hadn’t happened this way!!”
“Why are you so secretive??”
When we last saw Don Draper, he was sitting alone, at night, in the Sterling Cooper kitchen, as Colin Hanks played a Jesus song.
Tonight:
Freddy Rumsen strikes out during a pitch meeting with his team; ever-eager Pete seizes a chance to exploit an opportunity at the office; an old friend is the beneficiary of Don's loyalty; Sara Beth proves to be a welcome ally for Betty.
Next Sunday:
Betty visits her ailing father; Paul's girlfriend, Sheila, advises him about his civic responsibilities; Pete's mother tries to put the kibosh on an important family move that he and Trudy are planning.
October 12:
Don takes a business trip to Los Angeles, where he hooks up with some interesting new acquaintances; Peggy's in the mood for an office romance; Duck contemplates the future at Sterling Cooper.
October 19:
An old friend and Don renew acquaintances; Pete's personal problems impact a major account; Joan introduces her fiancé around the office.
October 26:
Season finale.
Titles for season two:
2.1 For Those Who Think Young
2.2 Flight One
2.3 The Benefactor
2.4 Three Sundays
2.5 The New Girl
2.6 Maidenform
2.7 The Gold Violin
2.8 A Night To Remember
2.9 Six Month Leave
2.10 The Inheritance
2.11 The Jet Set
2.12 The Mountain King
2.13 Meditations in an Emergency
People tell me “Dexter” is by far the better show, but “Mad Men” won the top drama Emmy last Sunday. And, in a category “Dexter” wasn’t even nominated in, the top drama-writing honor. I didn’t watch “Dexter” last season; did the academy make at least two colossal blunders by giving statues to “Mad Men” that rightfully belonged to “Dexter”?
The two shows air back to back; what better night to compare?
10 p.m. Sunday. AMC.
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But really this is an awesome show!
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Can I get a goddamn as to how smokin' Christina Hendricks is???!
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I just watched the first two seasons and it got me to wondering what all the fuss was about. The nudity was welcome but the constant whining about Harry's rules and missions got tedious fast.
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Endless voiceovers about adhereing to the simplest code of conduct ever, nonstop puns about killing, poor dialog and bad acting. How it got nominated at all is the real mystery.
Mad Men, conversely, may indeed be the best show on TV. -
Poor dialogue and bad acting? Oh well, I guess it doesn't take much to impress me then. Still found it consistently entertaining and intriguing. Dexter and Damages are the two best shows I've seen in the last year or so. Haven't seen Mad Men yet, but look forward to checking it out.
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Honestly, she seems the only character in the show who doesn't give the impression of a mannequin suddenly come to life. Tried watching Mad Men, I really did. Not bad...but it's kinda like seeing an exotic butterfly mounted in a glass case, stuck on a pin. Yeah, it LOOKS great...but it isn't really ALIVE. (Except for Christina's character, that is.)
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dexter is fun, escapist,deep and insightful, i really enjoy it, but it's no mad men, mad men is mindblowingly great, literally my mind is blown every week and i have to swipe cranium pieces of my walls
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wobbly. It's a good show but the inconsistent performances really kill it for me.On what planet is Dexter superior to Mad Men? Seriously.
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is it's fantastic. From the beautiful opening credits onward, its dark, rich, and filled with complexity. When I first started watching it, I loved the episodes but couldn't shake a kind of "OK, but where is all this going?" kinda vibe. I has such an undercurrent of tension to it I assumed it was going to be a little more densely plotted than it is, but apparently the show is too smart for that too. I love the episode summaries because they reveal just how little plot is in each episode (about five episodes of the first season could have simply been summarized: "Don goes to work and creates a successful marketing campaign and cheats on his wife. Someone has dinner with someone else." But hey, its ballsy enough to be character-driven, and I've come to love it for that. Dexter, while entertaining enough, is nowhere close to better.
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comparing The Godfather to The Shawshank Redemption. Apples and oranges. Two completely different shows that have no business being compared. Both great, for very different reasons.
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I luvs me some Midge!
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Just saying.
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Greate quote from Harry's office mate. I love Joan!
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She ignores all of the young guys and goes after the big fish. This is gonna be fun to watch!
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Haha, wow, Don's secretary and Roger!
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Senior copywriter or account services? How would this impact Pete Campbell's job, exactly? And is he taking the leave, but just not coming back?
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A "leave of absence" was just for show. They loved Freddie but had to let him go. It's actually pretty normal in business--I've actually seen a couple of people let go but the company initially dressed it up as a "leave of absence." Anyways, that's why Don and Roger partied it up with Freddie--it was his farewell party.
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But remind me again how the women of this show were left out in the cold for Emmy nominations. The Joan scene with Roger about Marilyn was right on in showing her perspective on a lot of things, and how they are so different. Betty just bowled me over tonight with her machinations. And Peggy! Elizabeth Moss is so skilled. She just conveys so much at the same time. And Mona. And Jane. All good.
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Betty and Peggy get all the attention and both are good. But Cristina Hendicks' work is subtle and powerful in ways the other two actresses haven't yet mastered.
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Christ, that episode just knocked the socks off of me. One of the best of season two. I always feel a little sad once each episode ends. I really could sit and watch those people for hours.I just hope season two of Damages is a good as this. Anyone know when that show starts up again?
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Why are you guys overpraising her? She does good work but it's pretty insignificant compared to what Hamm, Slattery and January Jones do each episode. Let's no get carried away here. Hopefully the writers will soon give us another glimpse of Joan's sad homelife just so I can see what you guys are on about.
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That's what I get for following the example of the guy above me.
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Wow, what a fantastic episode. Everything was firing on all cylinders tonight.Damn Roger, you magnificent bastard!
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All deserve awards... give the globe to Hendricks (for her curves) and the Emmy to Moss (for leading) and Jones (for supporting). There's not enough acclaim to go around. I think Joan will be especially amazing to watch these last episodes. Roger and her get married and continue to have a fling into next season anyone? Also, will we move forward farther in time? Place the bets people.
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Didn't I read that AMC has made a 5 year commitment to this show and each new season will skip ahead by two years? We're going to see ten years of their lives.Did I imagine reading that somewhere?
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Sep 29, 2008 12:12:49 AM CDT
Will Episode 2.13 be about the Cuban Missile Crisis?
by voice o. reason
I can't say I'd e sad if they skip 1963, by the way. The March on Washington and the JFK assasination have been done to death (no pun intended) already.
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I have been a fan for a while..It will be tough for 24 ,Lost,and the Shield to top what they're doing on this show. They've managed to take this show and keep it interesting and to continue to develop the
characters and make you actually give a shit about them..It captures the spirit of the era perfectly along with the mindset of the masses at that time.
They really did something brillant.
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This is one of the best series I have ever seen on TV... EVER. If I had to nitpick, the only thing I could say is that there are not enough establishing shots - you know what I mean? I don't recall ever seeing Draper looking out his window at the 60s era cars driving up and down the NY streets or a shot of crowded 60s era NY with all the hustle and bustle. OK I'm done throwing in my two cents. This is still up there with stuff like Deadwood, West Wing or Homicide: Life on the Streets. That Weiner guy is some kind of genius.
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I'm getting chills. I don't know why. MAD MEN isn't a show that has on the surface shocks and thrills, but just watching it all unfold in a smart and concise way makes my nipples hard. Did not see Don's secretary and Roger getting together that soon. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant.
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as she ambitiously keeps rising up the company ladder and righting all the wrongs below her command, get to pete's level and clash and end up destroying him! how perfect, for all the shit he's caused her. she's the avenging angel!!!!
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Notice how the best ones always have a lot of Roger in them?
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I think he's the or a senior copywriter ... He can fuck up Pete's by losing him an account with his shenanigans.Anyway another great episode. I'll miss ol' Freddie.
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I don't think thats the last we'll see of that character. I hope Weiner doesn't go the cliche suicide route...And yes, Dexter is entertaining, although the "I'm gonna get found out" angle in both seasons got tiresome. Hall is good but Hamm is better.
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she was trying to pry open that locked drawer. It will be interesting to see what she finds when she finally manages to open it.
By the way. Best scene of the night. Don punching Jimmy and Jimmy getting right back up and asking Pretty Boy Floyd how he did! CLASSIC!!! -
Only semi-decent man in the office gets shitcanned. Bummer.
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what to watch on the amount of emmys they win??
who would be caught dead watching boston legal? -
Thought I was in the MAD MEN TB?
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See? See? We can have all the deep character portrayal AND a little bit of story movement, too!
Fantastic ending - did ANYONE see that coming, after all the setup for other possibilities?
And Peggy's rise is not going to stop at Pete's level. Hint, folks: she's got #2 billing on the show. -
that in the drawer is Dick Whitman, and not evidence of any cheating? I can't remember the contents of the drawer.
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She will open the drawer thinking she will find pussy...It will be full of DICK..
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I love this show and have never missed an episode. I have also never watched an episode of Dexter. Dexter is a great show, a lot of fun, and Michael Hall is brilliant. Mad Men is a well photographed period piece of early 60's costumed masturbation. It's fun for it's characters, but there really is no story arch. I look forward far more to Dexter. But I still heart Mad Men. Can't we like both shows? Why the loathing against Dexter for being on the same night? I mean, Heroes is on the next night. Now THAT'S a terrible show.
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...not never watched. I too am silly and pretentious.
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Sep 29, 2008 1:00:03 PM CDT
It's good when we can ALL agree unanimously on something great!
by rich malone
Bravo. This show's had soo many good eps that I always say "That was the best one by far" after each one. The acting goes without saying, every actor EARNS their pay on this show, the old-school way. But the set design, camera angles, music choices and how it's placed at the right place at the right time.....always flawless. The shot of Don standing in the alley after Freddy left, the next shot opening with Don holding the glass with the Al-seltzer....someone referencing the 'champ', but not saying which 'champ', and then only, when it NEEDED to be referenced, Jimmy Barrett playing the scene so that we're naturally panning over to see Floyd......wonder how long Weiner ponders in his meetings and writing to develop this stuff?!
But the acting.....When it comes to 'Peggy', the actress portraying her does this well, whenever anyone gives her a life lesson, or Don lectures her in order to prep her for the big leagues(I wonder if McCain lectures Palin in a similar subtle-hard-ass-but still-loving-big-brother-esq-fashion), you can see how she interprets it and reacts, without saying anything..wonderfull acting. With 'Joan', her pain is so subtle, but you can see it even in her smiles, and she's incredibly observant and self-aware. 'Pete' character is wonderfully portrayed by Vincent ?, who is slimly yet the ultimate professional("We'll all get raises...now lets congrad each other. I'll go first"...) Gotta love John Slattery as 'Roger', (that guy should always be dresses in a suit), who always gets the coolest throw-away/advice lines. Props to Ben Batt as 'Sal', love his sophistication, the Paul & kinsey, and Jan Jones leaving Jon Hamm SPEECHLESS in the scene at the bottom of the stairs....and her setting up the stable-guy with her girlfriend, and us not seeing the outcome this ep....the patience they know viewers have and respect from us...they don't go auto-pilot on ya'.....c'mon, you thought Betty was out for a simple 'revenge-bang', but it's clear she's got another agenda per her convo with the wise maid.....and did anyone else catch the Black elevator operator's comment about Marilyn to Don AND Peggy, of ALL people?, "Some people hide in plain sight"...shows you that Don sees himself in Peggy, and Peggy recognizes what Don's doing to mold her...AND, did anyone else see what dept. store the shirts were from that Don's sec. got for him? Ha.
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was the scene of Betty baking cookies with the kids and casually taking the phone off of the hook when she was supposed to be at lunch. Never saw that coming
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Wasn't that Freddie's wife that came in at the end?
Or was that Roger's?
I thought Don was giving that speech to Freddie and not Roger about moving on?
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Yah, there were three or four real jaw-droppers in this ep. Freddy wetting himself, Betty so coldly setting up her friend, the "champ" dialogue, and that devastating one-two punch at the end... just fabulous. This is the Emmy episode, I think.
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Chitty - that was Roger's wife at the end. You didn't miss anything, but the setup was SO subtle. Think of the interaction between Roger and the secretary an episode or so back - it blossomed, obviously, and the secretary is from the same conniving bitch mold as Joan but without half her skill and sophistication. The last setup was the conversation in the bar. And instead of Freddie suiciding (which was what was foreshadowed by the Marilyn stuff, IMHO) or Betty finding "Dick Whitman," which is still coming... the dice rolled out unexpectedly and we got hit with the one-two of Roger leaving his wife... for the gal that was in plain sight the whole time. I'm still trying to push my jaw back up into place. :)
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Yea, I forgot about that line, but when then operator mentioned it, I said out loud, "I'll say."
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Was it when they were having the final chat in the second bar after they were kicked out of the underground casino?
I knew that Roger was talking to Don about questioning the reasons to stay married, but didn't recognize Roger's wife.
I guess it had been since his second heart attack that I saw her and maybe her hair was different.
But yes, that was veeeerrrry subtle the way that Roger played that towards Don, but really was wanting reassurance about his own decision.
I even watched the episode twice, but was having to deal with wife being sick and was in and out of the room.
I remember Don's sec going into Roger's office after Joan gave her the pink slip and knew they would start banging, but I figured they would show it happen.
After all, I thought Roger had fallen for that hooker.
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Since Easter Sunday was April 22nd in 1962, and Marilyn Monroe died August 5th, given the time frame of the episodes, the finale should fall around Thanksgiving...
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But are you talking about when the show will be when they end the season?
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Oh yeah, I see what you are saying skimn.
Yes, I would say they will have a holiday ending on the show.
I can think of nothing better than a subtle battle between Don and Betty at the dinner table in front of everyone.
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If her father is ailing and the next episode is "The Inheritance" I wonder if that means she will inherit a fortune from her father? Perhaps that will give her the independence she needs to leave Don.
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Its gonna be very exciting when Betty gets into Dons desk drawer.
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Last season he really stood out, but this season they aren't doing much with him. I thought there was more to be done with that wierd father of his, but they killed him off kind of suddenly. Pete's relationship to Don (which at times is a rivalry and others almost seems like big brother worship), has been neglected too long. Don't get me wrong, I like more story line with Joan and Peggy, but somehow I think they've lost the building suspense that they had with the Pete Campbell character last season. I guess now that Betty has stood up to Don, I'm not sure where that story has left to go. I kind of like Duck, so I guess he's doomed, but maybe once he's gone it will pave the way for the Pete/Don rivalry to return since Duck has the job Pete wanted. Also, will Peggy's decision to sleep with Pete EVER be explained?
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I thought their rivalry and dynamic would be a staple of the show. I have been disappointed by the lack of Pete this year. The description for one of the later episodes makes it sound like he may eventually get something. I hope so, because don't get me wrong. This season is amazing, and Betty is getting a chance to sign. But I'd like to see more of Pete. All around, a fucking fantastic episode.
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i know her rise wont stop at pete's, i mean when she gets to his level she will be in a position to challenge him for all the shit he has caused her, and revenge will be oh so sweet! of course she'll keep going higher after he is vanquished.
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the battle between Pete and Don will heat up in other seasons, i agree he's more background than season 1, but this has been the Betty season, with most focus being on her, i think each season will have a character more focused on. Season 1 was a sort of introduction to all of them. season 3 could be pete's.
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just, wow. This show continues to surprise without resorting to cheap gimmicks or stunts (pants wetting notwithstanding). More amazing than Mad Men - the fact that this site has a talkback for it!
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Don't get me wrong, I like Dexter...but it's like chocolate cake or some other sweet. It's nice while you're viewing it, but it's not very lasting. Nothing amazing about Dexter or thought provoking at all. The sub-characters are all 2-dimensional...which is fine for what the show is. No way does Dexter deserve even to be nominated for anything. Again, fun to watch but nothing really there. Mad Men though...well, it's the best thing on TV now. Nuff said.
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Anyone think he might commit suicide?
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If anyone wants to learn the art of character development, here it is!
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The actor who played Pete's dad died before the season started filming, so they wrote his character off the show (quite well, I may add). I do agree that it's a shame that we haven't gotten more Pete this season, but we have seen is pretty solid:. The fight he had with his wife over having children was big, but his little moments are great too.
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