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UPDATED! Johnny Depp Hosting Tea Party For Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND! And Saddling Up As Tonto For Jerry Bruckheimer!
hey folks, Harry here at fantastic fest.... just got a blackberry message from Mr. Beaks, who is currently at the studio's version of Disneyland, where they have just announced that Johnny Depp will be playing the Mad Hatter in Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND. Beaks will be back at this spot with more on this story. stay tuned.
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here. Beaks just called me to say that there was another major tease at the end of today's all-day Disney event, also involving Johnny Depp. At the very end of the presentation, the USC Marching Band came out to play "The William Tell Overture" as Disney made the official announcement about THE LONE RANGER. As Dick Cook asked, "Who could possibly play the Lone Ranger?" Johnny Depp snuck out onstage behind him, dressed as Captain Jack Sparrow, but wearing a very familiar black mask over his eyes as well. Is that an announcement? Not exactly, but it sounds like Disney's in the Depp business in a big way, and I'm guessing we'll hear a hearty "HI-YO, SILVER, AWAAAAAY!" out of him in a few years time. We'll have much more about today's event from Mr. Beaks as soon as he can get to his computer.
Second Update: According to IESB and Variety, Depp will be playing Tonto, not The Lone Ranger. Depp is part Cherokee.
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Wasn't this announced already?
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the thing that comes before second.
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Dead-on perfect casting.
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Some actor named Daniel Craig is supposed to play the new Bond in Quantum of Solace!<p> Seriously, this was something that YOU GUYS alerted us to earlier this summer.
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or am I going mad? Too much mercury I guess.
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Probably this is the first official announcement. Just guessing.
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And I've pretty much come to expect that barring scheduling conflicts, any quirky off beat roles are going to be played by Johnny Depp. I guess that's just his typecasting.
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Don' give no kinda shit.
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I like Depp, and I like Burton but I am just tired of the Burton Depp thing. And the Helena Bonham Carter casting wears me down too. Nepotism!
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How can people say "Perfect Casting?"... It's not like Burton would choose a film where he COULDN'T cast Johnny Depp (Or Helena BC, for that matter...) It's not like much thought was put into agonising over who would be "right for the role"...
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I guess "just announced" is the new lingo for "reported three weeks ago." Good grief.
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Now that would've been an actual surprise (and one I wouldn't mind). I thought Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was really bad (Gene Wilder was vastly superior in that role, as was the original film) - Tim Burton (to me at least) is more miss than hit. But then again, my favorite film film of his is Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
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Helena Bonham Carter has already been cast as the Queen Of Hearts right?
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I think Johnny Depp can be a terrific actor, but like any of us he makes bad decisions at times.
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I guess it was just a rumor but somehow I had it in my head as an already approved fact. What's up with Tinseltown these days? Things seem to be really slow. Is it still that SAG-thing that's keeping things from happening? Well...it may just be a misconception.
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The question is, will Elfman score it? And will it be the old, awesome Elfman or the Spiderman-Willy Wonka unspectacular Elfman?
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Am I right?
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Been a while. I think it was only rumored up until now. Perhaps, more like "a foregone conclusion" Depp would play that role. seems right, but really not at all surprising. <P> what'd you think of Indy (told ya it'd been a while)? Was Deutschland just as disappointed with it as we spoiled Americans?
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Thanks for the laugh. <P> But in this case you're probably right. But take your word for it? After all that fake Indy stuff crap last fall??
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Really?
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Big surprise. Is there a movie of Burton's that Depp isn't in? Seriously, you two, get a room already!!
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Depp in a Burton movie?!?!? What a shocking revelation! What's next, making it emo-dark and semi-creepy?
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Walken, Nicholson, and Sarah Jessica Parker. This needs to be a fuckin' freakshow.
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That would actually make it worth watching, lol
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Burton, once hailed as an original, continues to rehash other peoples works. He's laughing all the way to the bank but in a way it's sad.
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Nightmare Before Xmas <p> planet of the Apes <p> did I miss any in that long list?
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Seriously. Get the fuck out.
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Sorry, I try not to be trollish ever, but Tim Burton is just lazy.
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I hope this turns out well. The Disney Alice is one of the most haunting movies of my childhood. The scene with the sweeping dog thing always creeped me the hell out. The whole feeling of being alone, Alice is confused by everything around her. And the adults aren't any help cause they're all insane. The crazy characters in that film are creative and cool, but they feel dangerous and threating too. And as a kid I had a fear of strangers, I always was wary of being kidnapped, mustve been all those commercials about not talking to strangers and fliers at school about suspicious vans in the area at three o'clock.
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I like it.
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I am a fan of Burton's but I know he's made some bad films. Depp can be great,especially in small doses. without Depp,POTC wouldve tanked. I personally disliked them all. anyhow,this sounds like it could be great,or a disaster if rushed. Burton always had a vivid imagination. much,much more than Michael Bay. can't wait for a trailer. peace be to all who seek it. namaste
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And let him and Johnny got nuts together. Reubs could also do a mean White Rabbit. Now I can say I warmed up a role for Johnny Depp (was the Mad Hatter, in a straight-jacket, in a play way back in high school). Let's just hope this thing doesn't lag or is as balls-awful as Charlie and the Chocolate Oompa-Loompas. Oops, should I have gone there?
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I find you feigned lack of concern highly amusing. After all, you bothered to take the time to actually post that you didn't care about something. Meaning you schmucks cared enough to let people you've never even met know how much you "don't" care. The irony is lost on you, I'm quite sure. But you're morons, so you don't even realize it. Good day.
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MARS ATTACKS! and BIG FISH. Other than that it's a Depp-fest.
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needs to be in this. It could be a really cool reunion. Maybe have him and Depp in the same scene somehow. I have'nt read Alice in Wonderland in a long time though so I have no idea what he could play. Oh and DeVito as the Cheshire Cat is genius.
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Paul Giamatti as the Cheshire Cat. Dickie Attenborough would be an awesome White Rabbit, though perhaps too old.
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...as the Walrus.
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It is a shame, cause I love the guy. he has got some serious acting chops. But man!!!! Seriously, aren't we seeing a little too much of him in these kind of roles? He likes to choose challenging parts. Characters that don't exploit his pretty boy looks, and I commend him for that. But he has dug himself into a hole and chooses nothing but kooky. And Burton really needs to look other actors. Stop being safe!!!!
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I called it.
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...how about Simon Pegg as the White Rabbit?
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Now that has got me smiling :)
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I like Johnny Depp but he's trying to wear too many, er, hats lately. He was awful as Willy Wonka and I fear the goofy Mad Hatter will be Depp's Wonka on acid. I pray he's not the Lone Ranger. How the hell would he play him? Straight ahead as he should, or fey and/or off-kilter like he's prone?? Please say it aint so Joe.
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Helena Bonham Carter as Tonto?
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Johnny Depp is now officially playing Seth Rogens Grandad...can't say i see a fmaily resemblance
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Certainly good to see you around. Well...I was disappointed. You know, I thought about a lot of shit they would or could fuck up but it didn't occurr to me that within a decade of script-quest they wouldn't be able to think of some Indy-worthy set-pieces and basically manage to kill Indy off in the second half of the movie. Even huge amounts of some of the magic stuff (Apfelwein) couldn't wash down the bad impressions. It is what it is. There certainly were things in it, that I enjoyed, though. What did you think?
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everyones tired of burton and his wifes oiled tits
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dressed as Captain Jack Sparrow, but wearing a very familiar black mask over his eyes as well." <P> Am I the only one who finds this slightly surreal? I'm sure people (yes, women & men) were swooning everywhere, but it just seems as a marketing ploy to be quite wacky - if not a little insidious... At least that's how I'm picturing it in my mind not having been there myself.
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..this sounds like the opposite of perfect casting to me
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sell out. Guess that's the point of acting. Find a career. HAHAHHA I'm a millionaire. That's what I'd think.
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It was actually Disney chairman Dick Cook whom Depp "surprised". More in a bit on this event.
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The Lone Ranger!? Miserable!
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After reading the previous posts it's a fair assumption to say Burton is a hack, with a few lucky hits in his career and all but like 2 people agree. Why is he still getting work? Seriously people! There are like 10 directors/actors who do all the work in Hollywood. It's getting sad, like government, we need new, talented blood!
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Indy and Munich vs Wonka and Sweeney, I prefer Burton. Comparing Burton to Spielberg, Shyamalan, Zemekis, Lucas, I could go on, Burton is doing better work in my eyes than those guys.
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Alas, I felt similarly, AllieJamison. I was trying my hardest to stop myself from doing doubletakes in the darkened theater at what I saw on-screen. Especially in the first 15-20 minutes. And I felt pretty let down by the underuse/under-written role for Marion. I don't know if Karen Allen was just so thrilled to be reunited with the Indy crew or what, but this was not much of the Marion we saw in Raiders. I suppose Ms.Ravenwood must have mellowed over the years and after having a kid. I never really dug the aliens part, but got over it in hope it'd come out ok (I mean, people probably felt similar about the Ark of the Covenant before Raiders), but in this case it just felt incredibly contrived and like that or didn't really cover any novel ground, or at least do it in an engrossing, novel way. <P> I found myself questioning why the characters were doing certain things a lot of the time. It just felt like everyone was going through the motions for the sake of making another Indy movie and wasn't worried about how well the story held together or even made sense. <P> it felt like "Diet Indy" compared to the red-canned boldness of "Indy-cola Classic" (Raiders). That was how I felt about it when I walked out of the theatre. I wanted to see it again. Without all the release hype, without my expectations, and just watch it. See if I could enjoy it after some time had passed, but I never got back to the theatre again for it. Still want to, though. I've since been trying to read post-release stuff from the filmakers to help illuminate the reasons for why they went with the story and details they chose, etc. And I just keep finding the stuff over and over: they made it for "the fans"; they made it "for fun"; Lucas finally wore everyone down and beat them into submission about doing the aliens thing. But no real explanations about why things had to happen the way they did in the film. I read the big-ass Complete Making of Indiana Jones book that recently came out (fascinating details on the original films) and for as much detail as they go into on a film made 27 years ago, there's comparatively little thought revealed on Crystal Skull except that people wanted to make another Indy and that's it. <P> so, crap in, crap out I guess. That was pretty long-winded of me. <P> all the negative stuff aside, I did really enjoy seeing Indy on-screen again doing some Indy-like stuff. Shia wasn't the bane of the film. And there were some fun, enlongated chase/fight scenes. I just have a lot of unanswered questions about things in the movie that I hope to iron out with future viewings.
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Alas, I felt similarly, AllieJamison. I was trying my hardest to stop myself from doing doubletakes in the darkened theater at what I saw on-screen. Especially in the first 15-20 minutes. And I felt pretty let down by the underuse/under-written role for Marion. I don't know if Karen Allen was just so thrilled to be reunited with the Indy crew or what, but this was not much of the Marion we saw in Raiders. I suppose Ms.Ravenwood must have mellowed over the years and after having a kid. I never really dug the aliens part, but got over it in hope it'd come out ok (I mean, people probably felt similar about the Ark of the Covenant before Raiders), but in this case it just felt incredibly contrived and like that or didn't really cover any novel ground, or at least do it in an engrossing, novel way. <P> I found myself questioning why the characters were doing certain things a lot of the time. It just felt like everyone was going through the motions for the sake of making another Indy movie and wasn't worried about how well the story held together or even made sense. <P> it felt like "Diet Indy" compared to the red-canned boldness of "Indy-cola Classic" (Raiders). That was how I felt about it when I walked out of the theatre. I wanted to see it again. Without all the release hype, without my expectations, and just watch it. See if I could enjoy it after some time had passed, but I never got back to the theatre again for it. Still want to, though. I've since been trying to read post-release stuff from the filmakers to help illuminate the reasons for why they went with the story and details they chose, etc. And I just keep finding the stuff over and over: they made it for "the fans"; they made it "for fun"; Lucas finally wore everyone down and beat them into submission about doing the aliens thing. But no real explanations about why things had to happen the way they did in the film. I read the big-ass Complete Making of Indiana Jones book that recently came out (fascinating details on the original films) and for as much detail as they go into on a film made 27 years ago, there's comparatively little thought revealed on Crystal Skull except that people wanted to make another Indy and that's it. <P> so, crap in, crap out I guess. That was pretty long-winded of me. <P> all the negative stuff aside, I did really enjoy seeing Indy on-screen again doing some Indy-like stuff. Shia wasn't the bane of the film. And there were some fun, enlongated chase/fight scenes. I just have a lot of unanswered questions about things in the movie that I hope to iron out with future viewings.
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Sept. 24, 2008, 7:27 p.m. CST
Oh Jphnny Depp....is this really what it's come to?
by IndustryKiller!
Appearing in character as Jack Sparrow as Disney press events? You gotta be fucking kidding me. And the Lone Ranger? Really? ANOTHER big budget Disney franchise? Integrity where art thou?
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Sept. 24, 2008, 7:30 p.m. CST
And Burtons last seven films have all been mediocre to awful
by IndustryKiller!
Yes including the dour, well art directed but passionlessly directed and acted over-all Sweeney Todd. The last thing I need to see is Depp team up with Burton again. Their last two outings have been as straight down the middle and boring as it could possibly get. It's safe to say at this point that Burton has completely lost it. His latter films are mere poseurs devoid of any real wonder compared to his earlier work.
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How could I forget those. It's actually suprising Depp WASN'T in Mars attacks given how many other cameos were in that film. Though, I think there's definitely some "Depp residue" in Lukas Haas's character. And portman would be a vast improvement over Helena "tired oil tits" Carter
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I don't know why, but I have hopes for this film. (At least before I know anything about it.) I was pretty doubtful when disney announce a movie based on the Pirates ride and it turned out far better than anyone expected up front. (Speaking of which, what happened to the Jungle Cruise movie they announced last year?) It's about time somebody did for Westerns what Pirates did for, well, pirates.
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Whoever said it up there about him and Depp riffing through a few scenes together nailed it. <P> but Reubens could also make a pretty good Queen of Hearts ;-) Hoskins for White Rabbit anyone?
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Wow, they actually translate "Wilhelm" into all the different languages? That's weird. Just as Depp's surprise performance. <br> I agree with each one of your points, finky. Marion, Ford's weird delivery of lines in front of the warehouse and then there's Mac's legs, "the skull told me this and that", even John Williams recycling Last Crusade's theme when the film is already at a low ...and so much more. And I'm still asking the same questions you hinted at. I also can't help but think of this film as a huge misunderstanding. Does Spielberg really think he did well? I guess I'll pay your blog a visit.
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No. Bad. Go back and watch V For Vendetta and then Fight Club, two good movies - only one good performance though.
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To each their own, friend
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They must have payed him a shitload of money to come out as cap'n jack..I can just hear it now..Now Mr. Depp where would you like us to back the truck up at.. Oh!! to that big offshore account. No problem.. You can keep the costume too..auction it off on e-bay..no really we don't mind a bit..Yep!! The Johnny Depp business is a good business to be in.
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There's method behind my madness. What's yours?
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Er, yeah...I've been bad about posting for a while. Work's kept me begging for daily doses of the Apfelwein it's been so damn busy. Anyone that tells you Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac is in danger doesn't work in the multifamily mortgage industry! <P> but I digress :) <p> all your points are dead on. I really felt underwhelmed by William's score, too. I didn't really like the continum keyboard effect, though I think it kind of fits for a sci-fi film, but not an Indy film. The parts I ended up liking a lot were often the recycled pieces from earlier Indy films. Which is too bad. But I felt somewhat similarly when the SW prequels first came out and over time, much of the "new" music grew on me, some of it a lot more than I ever expected. Maybe in three years I'll feel the same way about Crystal Skull's score. <P> Depp as Lone Ranger, huh? I guess we'll see how that turns out. I don't think a fey Ranger is necessarily the best way to go with it, but it seemed to be okay for Pirates. Then again, it's already been done with Pirates.
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a guy who discovered how much fun it was to play pirate, and now he gets to play the Lone Ranger. It's all about childhood heroes. Depp doesn't strike me as a guy who feels he is qualified to fill these roles, but rather as a kid who can't wait to play dress up. And I don't blame him for that one bit. It's going from "work" to "play". And who's more fun to play with than his best bud, Tim Burton?
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cause he said he felt like his kids wouldn't be able to sit through most of his current back catalog. <p> Hey, at least he's not doing The Haunted Mansion 2
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Updated again.
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depp is great actor, but this is more of the same. can't we see him do his keith richards impression again?
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so viggo as the lone ranger then?
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I saw a clip of the 80's Lone Ranger Movie on some TV show the other day. I thought to myself... how long before the reimagining of The Lone Ranger. In time everything you love will re-imagined. <br> <br> I'm not againt a new Lone Ranger. He's a pretty positive character, and it could be fun. Don't know about Depp in the role, but it could be worse. The guy at least knows how to have fun with a role. <br> <br> Now... who's Tonto?
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sounds like a buddy film with TLR and Tonto.
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and here it comes with shit on its heel....Seth Rogan as the Lone Ranger...Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear. When the Lone Ranger rides again...God how I used to love to hear that opening...oh well
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Depp as second banana? Who gets the lead saddle? Some young newcomer like Chris Pine? The story of the Ranger would seem to suggest that it would be someone young, and Tonto would be like his "Obi Wan," helping him get revenge on those who killed his brother and the other Texas Rangers. Please... not the Beef...
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What the fuck is he wearing the mask for..As for remaking the Lone Ranger I have two words for Disney...Clinton Spillsbury...Yeah he starred in the remake which was just ok but flooped pretty bad when it opened and did so-so on video..Somethings should just be left alone and I think the Lone Ranger is one of them.. Westerns are a hard sell unless more adult themed in general now a days..I for one love a good western but the days of public consumption of western comedies may be gone..
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see Charlie & The Chocolate Factory yet? I contend it's one of Burton's best, and that rather recently you still hadn't seen it yet. Your thoughts in a few sentences?
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Ok I rescind my former comments. If he's taking the supporting role in a big budget film that is way out of his type then thats fucking cool. I know hes part native american and has always had a fascination with the culture so possibly.....
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Does this have anything to do with American McGee's Alice game to movie adaption?
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You are right sir Jarmusch's Dead Man is an awesome piece of work.. And a fine performance by Depp
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Even though Lloyd was in the tv alice, he'd make a great older, stoner caterpillar. And of course Burton will make the queen of hearts a transvestite, and he should. Alan Cumming? Crispin Glover? They both have to be something in this movie. <P> IMDB says Alice has been cast and it's Mia Wasikowska. Can't say I've seen here in anything.
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Just finished 'Abre los Ojos' and am doubting my surroundings.
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...there is only one man who can play the Mad Hatter. And that man is Steve Buscemi.<P>"I'm so mad, I wash my hands 100 times a day because they smell like my mother!"
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No disrespect meant - you are entitled to your opinion but are you out of your fuckin mind? Willy Wonka one of Burton's best??? Really? To each his own I guess, but I'll stick with Beetlejuice and Ed Wood myself.
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I think there are plenty of talented American Indian actors who could play Tonto - Wes Studi, Adam Beach etc. but I guess they aren't box office draws so whatever. I'm sure Depp will be great in the role of course, just sayin.
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I've been waiting to see this one it seems for years now. And I agree he needs to stay the hell away from "the goth one." Venture out like he did w/ Mike Mann recently.
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Sept. 24, 2008, 11:08 p.m. CST
Burton's Wonka probably wouldn't have pleased Roald Dahl.
by Amy Chasing
But then he was reportedly a sour-puss when it came to adaptations of his work so no surprises there. But otherwise it was big, colorful, entertaining (especially the songs), well made and a good adaptation for my money. What more could you ask for? Seriously, what did other people want from that flik?
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Wasn't horrible, just a pale pale imitation of the original movie...it really was not any different then the first movie except that it did not have the charisma of Gene Wilder and the great music. I think that Chris Walken would have been the better choice for the role...a rare bad performance by Depp-he was just creepy (not in a good way) and weird - not a good protaganist.
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I like Depp in certain roles, but this entire film just seems wrong for him.
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Sept. 24, 2008, 11:29 p.m. CST
I didn't see Burton's Wonka as imitating the original.
by Amy Chasing
The original was a musical while Burton's wasn't. It had songs but it wasn't a musical. But Burton's stuck closer to the original text, so I guess it was imitating something from the start.
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Why the fuck would he appear wearing a mask if he's Tonto indeed. Shouldn't he be wearing a feather or something? Please do comment, Beaks.
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and film it. burton could quasi-direct it too
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Seriously... awesome, disgusting, heartfelt, perverted, and sweet.
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Everyone I know always claims to be one quarter Cherokee. Maybe to seem part mysterious or cool. Probably why some name their daughters "Dakota."
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Without being racist it's a similar thing in Australia. There are Aboriginals here whiter than I am. Like I said, not being racist, just an observation.
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Sept. 25, 2008, 1:02 a.m. CST
Steve Buscemi as The March Hare. Peter O' Toole as The Cheshire
by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET
<P> Willaim H Macy as the Walrus <P> Pee Wee Herman and Pauly Shore as Tweedledum and Tweedledee. <P> Philip Seymour Hoffman as The Queen Of Hearts. <P> Steven Wright as the Dormouse. <P> Christopher Walken as The Caterpilla <P> Michael J. Pollard as the White Rabbit. <P> Jon Heder as The Cards.
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I so wanted to see those made into movies<p> Until I read the end<p> Now can't get far enough, fast enough away from it
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Sept. 25, 2008, 1:38 a.m. CST
re: burton, depp, and bonham carter should have a 3-way
by Melvin_Pelvis
ahh, umm, errr<p> wink, wink, nudge, nudge<p> Your absoultly correct<br> They should
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Movie voice guy died<p> I can't see Peewee Herman doing the voice over<p> From The Mind Of Tim Burton
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Hoping this scene is all sorts of fucked up- Like the Dinner Scene in the original 1974 Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Since gore could be an issue- You cut away to shadows on the wall when the clam killings begin. Hearing them scream for help, watching their shadow silhouettes being ripped apart with black goo splattering onto the walls, as the Walrus tears them out of their shells and devours them. A nice messy close up of the clam guts dangling from his Mustache when the Carpenter comes back out ready to eat..<P> Oh please make this scene terrifyingly bliss, a true child giving nightmare!
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next up the casting of bonham carter as the queen of hearts.
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What the fuck ever happened to The Rum Diary?
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This could be great. Depp as Tonto is perfect. The music alone will instill a certain classiness in the film. This could be the new Indiana Jones. It will also make a tonne of money!
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That brit comic Matt Lucas is playing both Tweddle Dum and Tweedle Dee. Haven't read all the talkback so maybe they did.
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I had hoped the rumors were true. It will make this project much better having Johnny. As for scattered talk that Michael Keaton should be in it, NO WAY. Keep Keaton out of it. I think Burton, Depp and Carter will make a great flick, doubters be damned.
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I agree, I like Burton's last couple over Spielberg's last couple, as well as Lucas, M. Night, Zemeckis, etc. While Burton's last few efforts before Charlie and the Chocolate Factory weren't to my liking, i like it and Sweeney Todd quite a bit. I haven't enjoyed Spielberg's, Zemeckis, Night, last few films at all, and I've only liked one Lucas directed movie, and that was from 1977.
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and im pretty damn sure my source was this very site.
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Depp was actually offered the Michael J. Fox role, but turned it down. What could have been, I guess.
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Sept. 25, 2008, 3:44 a.m. CST
Burton's good when he sticks to what he's best at...
by L. Ron Bumquist
like Corpse Bride and Sweeney Todd but is truly awful when he tries to diversify, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Charlie and the Shit Factory more like. Alice will fall into the latter category.
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OK, this is just me, but I adored the role he played in DONNIE BRASCO. He was amazing in that film. But somehow, he has decided not to revisit that sort of role (NB bar his role in the new Michael Mann, which I think I'll like) and do - to my mind - rather too many of those 'child-like' characters. Now, when he does them with sensitivity - like Edward Scissorhands, or William Blake in Dead Man - it's wonderful. But enough with the Willy Wonka/Captain Jack shit. Please, enough! DEPP, YOU ARE A VERY TALENTED MAN! USE THAT TALENT!!!
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OK, this is just me, but I adored the role he played in DONNIE BRASCO. He was amazing in that film. But somehow, he has decided not to revisit that sort of role (NB bar his role in the new Michael Mann, which I think I'll like) and do - to my mind - rather too many of those 'child-like' characters. Now, when he does them with sensitivity - like Edward Scissorhands, or William Blake in Dead Man - it's wonderful. But enough with the Willy Wonka/Captain Jack shit. Please, enough! DEPP, YOU ARE A VERY TALENTED MAN! USE THAT TALENT!!!
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Hey I know it's off subject but does anybody know where I can find the Wolfman trailer that was screened at comic con? also when is Depp's Public Enemy's going to be released?
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Really. That should go to Timothy Spall. <p>I mean, just LOOK at that ugly fucker! He's PERFECT!
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WOW! Burton is really upsetting all our preconceived notions of his one-note, waning, faded, failing abilities at the edge of his career's dissolution.
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'Nuff said.
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Ok cool, I had the exact connection wrong between Green Hornet and Lone Ranger...but I do think its fascinating how concepts come around again(same way Indiana Jones and a Batman vs. Joker movie resurfaced after 19 years) Somewhere the creator of Green Hornet and Lone Ranger (George W. Trendle and Fran Striker) are smiling. Unfortunately two different companies have the rights here, so you can't really get away with a little reference...although here's an idea..cast SETH ROGEN AS LONE RANGER...he'd effectively be playing how own uncle (which I'm pretty sure how it was done on the old Radio Shows-same actor)
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It starts here!
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will be doing the same character as he played in willie wonka..
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when the other disney story mentioned Depp as Tonto i thought to myself "i thought this site said he'd be the Ranger himself"..well now i know why so who's wrong? is Johnny the Tonto or the Ranger?
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I'm pretty sure I heard Matt Lucas from Little Britain say he was going to be playin these parts (via the magic of CGI). But given that they don't appear in the Alices Adventures In Wonderland book (but in through the looking glass) are we to assume that this film is essentially a remake of the Disney cartoon?
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...but Depp is from the South. EVERYONE in the South always claims to be "part-Cherokee"! The Cherokee tribe will officially admit anyone who can prove to be even 1/16th Cherokee. And 1/16th ain't a whole lot of Cherokee, IMHO.
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Sept. 25, 2008, 7:27 a.m. CST
ok, first, everyone and their mom knows about the Mad Hatter...
by LORDRANDO
So thats not an "announcement" and second....what the hell, Lone Ranger. I hope they keep it racist as to not upset purists. BOOOOOORING, uninspired, and I hope all these projects sink the house of mouse. Why dont they make movies of other shit from the past? Oh wait, they are running out of shit from the past. Thats why they are trying to make shit from the past seem new. God Almighty, please give us some ORIGINAL films!!!!!
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Kevin Dunn as a dad in one of their flicks....I just assumed the guy would be the Hatter and here we are...it would have been cool if you got Michael Keaton to do it, with a bit of Beetlejuice shining through. Or maybe I jst want a Michael Keaton career re-launch...but so far this seems predictable and like most recent Burton flicks, it'll be good, fun yet not spectacular...
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Sept. 25, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST
Depp as the Lone Ranger? Wasn't Mark Valley available?
by Leafar the Lost
I kid, because I love. Johnny Depp can play any character he wants. Whatever role it is, he will be prefect and kick ass. Cast him as the Green Hornet, the Shadow, and Lex Luther too.
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ala Lee Marvin in Cat Ballou. A drunken soused one, and a one-eyed badass other. Depp could play the hell out of both. Hell, just remake Cat Ballou, no one remembers the original. Except they'd cast Lindsey Lohan...I'd go with Allison Lohman.
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You're welcome.
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So 2010 is going to be the year of the sidekick deconstruction? Can't wait!
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That is the most uninteresting news I've heard in about 10 months.
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doin'?
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THE HOBBIT! There has been no real cool news about it. THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! Who is being cast? THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! What is the script like? THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! Concept art? THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! CGI news? Anything! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT! THE HOBBIT!
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nothing would please me more than it to come out of nowhere and amaze us all.
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I liked the story and the songs. <P> Just not together.
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Sept. 25, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST
Paul Reubens would make a PERFECT mad hatter!
by The Ghost of Marcus Brody
fuck tim burton.
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Haha, nice, so any complaints about the character being played by a guy who is ostensibly white are void then, yes? It's funny, fanboys can whine their pelvises loose about Beyonce playing Lois Lane or whatever, but white guys are allowed to play whoever they want. First person to say "PC" is a cunt.
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According to the voices in my head, Depp is doing his interpretation of Tonto... In Depp's interpretation, Tonto is actually a Caucasian who thinks he's Indian, and was raised by wolves (that partied a lot) near some indians. He designed his own indian costume from thrown away garments, and while it comes across as rather patchy and effeminate, it's Depp's spiked hair that really sells his version of Tonto. He also has an unusual walk as it's part-wolf and part-human - some might think it looks gay, but they're just homophobic! Finally, he has an addiction to fire water, but this is mostly played for laughs (and tastefully done) as to not offend any Indian viewers. Did I mention his Tonto also slurs his delivery when speaking?
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That would be more entertaining.
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in Tonto's tribe's language. How amazing would it be if Brando were still alive - fat, old, nutso - to play this legendary role?
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I think it's awesome that Burton is not "above" making movies for his alma mater, Disney. In the early years of his career, there seemed to be a discord between his artisitic sensibilities and Disney's, so he left. Later, his NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS was a big hit for Disney, but it by no means signalled a long-term collaboration. Now, it looks like he's back in the Disney fold. I guess he trusts his vision to work anywhere, and he doesn't care about being perceived as selling out. Can't wait for ALICE.
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Always thought MJF didn't really fit in that role. Not that it nec was any more "fitting" for Depp, either. In fact, the whole movie is pretty "un-Burton" except for the Martians and the stuff they do.
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Apes is his only out-and-out bad movie. If only we had got to see the potential Cameron/Schwarzenegger version.
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Willy Wonka did not need to be remade. Still, don't have a good feeling about this...
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Mad Hatter Isnt A HUGE Role. It Would Be Nice To See Depp In A Smaller Part. I DO Agree With Helen Bonner Farter Being Over-Rated & Just Weird To Look At. She Will Prolly Be The Queen. Which Is Like..Type Casting? Shes A Weird Ugly Lil Thing
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Alice in Wonderland. I'd much prefer Assy McGee's version.
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One: It's sad to see the day when Johnny Depp and Tim Burton--previously two of Hollywood's most unconventional and interesting artists--have become utterly predictable. <p> Two: I'm noting all the "Paul Ruebens would be the best Mad Hatter evah!" comments, and find them just as quixotic and groundless as the claims that Crispin Glover would have made the perfect Joker or Willy Wonka. <p> Three: I knew it was coming, but the Lone Ranger movie is going to be damn near impossible to make convincing. Pirates are easy, people like Pirates; but cowboys haven't been cool since the early sixties. Good luck, Disney.
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Sept. 25, 2008, 2:21 p.m. CST
Thomas Jane, Aaron Eckhart or Josh Holloway as Lone Ranger!
by RobertBaron
In case it doesn't fit... Thomas Jane, Aaron Eckhart or Josh Holloway as Lone Ranger!
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That'd be pretty cool
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Why not?
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Are there any pictures or video of Depp in Sparrow costume coming out to "Tonto" everyone?
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Sept. 25, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST
I haven't been excited about a Tim Burton movie for a while
by hallmitchell
And I'm still not. Alice in Wonderland. Do we really need another version?
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I wish he'd leave his Gothic Americanization away from this children's classic and do something else.
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Tonto should be Colin Farrell. They should fuck in the movie.
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Except for his horse Silver, which would be CGI and voiced by Eddie Murphy.
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...She's much better suited to the woman with the screaming baby that turns into a pig... Pepper, is it? Makes more sense if they're looking to cast "names" in smaller, cameo roles.
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