Sept. 19, 2008, 1:54 a.m. CST
Sept. 19, 2008, 1:54 a.m. CST
by Amy Chasing
Braga = well...
Sept. 19, 2008, 1:57 a.m. CST
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Sept. 19, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST
I'm sure this will be pretty shitty too.
Sept. 19, 2008, 2:41 a.m. CST
Sawyer's a little out there. He's kinda hard sci-fi. The book is interesting - although it basically plays into the same question that all of these shows/movies pose: Can you change your own future? One of the more fun things that happens is when a few people only experience black during that 2 minutes - meaning, of course... they dead!
Sept. 19, 2008, 3:23 a.m. CST
Yes, tt had its share of faults but was actually pretty good once it got going. Watching Fringe these days, I am reminded of nothing but how Fringe seems like a superior version of Threshold (rather than its obvious comparator, the X-Files).<p> Also it had Carla Gugino.<p>
Sept. 19, 2008, 3:36 a.m. CST
by Horace Cox
I hope it is, cuz last night I had a dream I was judging blowjobs from the lineup of the Miss Universe Pageant. Oh PLEASE be a glimpse of the future... Thank you science!
Sept. 19, 2008, 5:01 a.m. CST
Threshold was pretty bad initially. It started to get better though and by the end I was pissed off that it was gone. It also had 2 absolute hot chicks as regulars in Gugino and the girl from Jag. Was looking foward to watching them for a long time but no..Braga is a hack though, lets face it.
Sept. 19, 2008, 5:58 a.m. CST
Threshold wasn't always strong, but, it was always interesting. The story potential was huge.<BR><BR> I liked the characters a lot. Hot smart female leader, all brainiacs, horny dwarf. How many horny genius dwarf characters do see on TV? Even in sci-fi?<BR><BR> Haven't read FLASH FORWARD. Sounds like a worthwhile variation on the time travel theme. May have to read the book.
Sept. 19, 2008, 6:06 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
Of course it's an easy concept to fuck up.
Sept. 19, 2008, 6:30 a.m. CST
I love the concept. But I think they should wait at least until Lost is over.
Sept. 19, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST
this reminds me slightly of that
Sept. 19, 2008, 6:50 a.m. CST
by Dragon Man
Check out Calculating God if you want to read some good science fiction. Excellent read.
Sept. 19, 2008, 7:14 a.m. CST
by Kid Z
...does this manage to get stretched out into an entire series?
Sept. 19, 2008, 7:23 a.m. CST
I see the possibility of a movie or miniseries that explores it ... but a whole series? Something tells me that they're going to change the premise somewhat (select people experience the 'jump' in different episodes and to a different point in the future is the most likely change)
Sept. 19, 2008, 7:36 a.m. CST
I read "Flash Forward" a few years ago, and it's a pretty badass, huge-concept book. The final chapter is so huge, I have no idea how they'd film it for television.<p> But characters and their personal dramas in the novel built to a nice crescendo. I don't know if Goyer and Braga will keep the characters in the book, probably not, but hopefully they'll honor the tone of Sawyer's story. It's not really light-hearted stuff.<p> I agree with chrth that a whole series will demand they change certain premises. But depending on where they go with it, maybe it'll be somewhat interesting. I hope so.
Sept. 19, 2008, 8:52 a.m. CST
I dunno. I like Goyer, but his stats are pretty bad outside of the superhero stuff. Send me the pilot and I'll get back to you.
Sept. 19, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST
Yeah, can see it going this way - sounds like another idea that would be an awesome 6 or 12 episode miniseries that tells the whole story stretched out into a series that gets cancelled after 10 episodes and doesn't even get 20% of the story told...
Sept. 19, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST
by Drunken Rage
I associate him with a lot of very mediocre stuff. And "Blade 2 and 3" were both pretty awful.
Sept. 19, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST
bring it back! he also time travels but he gets back to take care of his family unlike my dad!
Sept. 19, 2008, 9:41 a.m. CST
Journeyman. NBC really dropped the ball on that one. It was one of the better shows last year. Way better than Chuck. How the hell did that one get renewed for a 2nd season?
Sept. 19, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST
Sept. 19, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST
in which everyone on the planet disappears, except for the people that were dying during the exact moment of some science experiment gone wrong
Sept. 19, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST
Braga AND Goyer working together? How are these two even still getting work, let alone their own goddamn tv show? Why in God's name does our society keep rewarding mediocrity? Arrrggghhhhhhh!<br> Sounds like a cool concept though, I'll have to remember to check out the book.
Sept. 19, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST
Blade 3...that's all that needs to be said...of course, the brain-washed masses may beg to differ...
Sept. 19, 2008, 11:41 a.m. CST
Braga is a hack and Goyer is hit and miss. Cancelled in 13 weeks assuming its actually picked up.
Sept. 19, 2008, 11:52 a.m. CST
the season after Lost debuted, which is not saying a lot. Had a much better concept than Surface or Invasion, but got bogged down too much in bad guy of the week scenarios. When it finally began to pull together it was cancelled. <p><p> This appears to be another great concept, but we'll see how the episodes play out.
Sept. 19, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST
Multiple-cast members all interconnected somehow doing time travel...?!
Sept. 19, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST
Thanks for reminding me of the title, RokurGepta. I saw it once years ago on TV and it stuck with me. It's one of those films which keeps getting mentioned on messageboards, so there must be something different and a bit special about it.
Sept. 19, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST
I agree, Goyer is hit or miss but Braga is a bull-headed turd- I'll never forget or forgive "These Are the Voyages."
Sept. 19, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST
and it was a great read up until the end. The whole blackout deal when, then glimpsing the future for two minutes, yea that's big, but I hated the ending. It's just freaky weird. Also an entire series? Mini-series maybe but not an entire series.
Sept. 19, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST
Sept. 19, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST
Threshold data mines a plot by the aliens.<br> Field team investigates.<br> Team member taken hostage.<br> Team member rescued.<br> Alien/s shot with *electro* bullets.<br> Alien plot stopped.<p> Also in every episode:>br> Molly, scary black dude, or macho field agent reminds us that Molly came up with the Threshold Protocol.<br> Data bitches about being drafted to work for a secret government agency, and about one or more of his ex-wives.<br> The dwarf tells us how uber zexy he is and just how unbelievably super smart he is.<br> *The Kid(tm)* invents the gadget that stops the alien plot all while mopeing about having to deceive his fiance.<br> Scary black dude or macho field agent bully's the dwarf or Data.<p> I love Carla and the show was starting to get better by the time Jag chick joined, but it was to late.<br> People would tune in, and think *I've already seen this episode* and change the channel, for the above reasons.
Sept. 19, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST
also google spell check is broken by the site these days
Sept. 19, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST
He doesn't know how to end his novels. I enjoy most of them, and he has great science fiction ideas, but they tend to fall apart near then end. Perhaps an ongoing series can sidestep that problem.
Sept. 19, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST
I'd rather see this as a short mini on Sci Fi. Or do it as an 8 episode series on BBC.<br> <br> But as an American hour long? I don't see it. Nice to see Sawyer's work being developed.
Sept. 19, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST
Sept. 19, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST
test <br> test
Sept. 19, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST
Melvis_Pelvis's typos ("Also in every episode:>br> Molly, scary black dude,") helped me figure out how to do paragraphs. <br> Thanks, Melvis_Pelvis! :)
Sept. 19, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST
That was the best example of a cool series rapidly going downhill I've ever seen. Just the two-part premiere with Carla walking up all sweaty in her lingere was worth the price of admission (and the Lost dude was pretty creepy). The final episode was a freaking "the Aliens are just like us" wacky episode where they stumble on a town of aliens living a small town life. Are you kidding me?
Sept. 19, 2008, 6:56 p.m. CST
He is everything that is wrong with the television industry.
Sept. 19, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST
Bring it back, bitches.
Sept. 19, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST
how is the man responsible for the POSSIBLE DEATH (maybe JJ can save it, maybe not) of a successful franchise like Trek allowed ANYWHERE NEAR a property EVER AGAIN???
Sept. 19, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST
This boring crap like Warehouse 13 and everything else being excreted from the assholes in charge.
Sept. 19, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST
I don't know who the hell said that, at about the time that Threshold was starting up, but ever since then I've never been able to get that disturbing image out of my mind at the mere mention of his name. Ew!
Sept. 19, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST
i personally love ....surface, invasion and threshold... i really think invasion should have gotten a 2nd season..but i thought the end was appropriate..surface ended completely open..i would have loved to see how they woulda dealt with the enormous population of the creatures, and i had envisioned that the end of the series would have seen the kids pet communicating with the other creatures to live in peace with the humans..i dunno, woulda been cool... and im with all the "bring back journeyman" people....that show was amazing, cut short too soon...but the ending for that was semi appropriate as well...
Sept. 20, 2008, 10 a.m. CST
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Shame they rushed it at the end to make it all tie up. Had a great cast too. <p> Maybe thios will be ok. We dhall see. Cant be worse than that abomination unto man that is True Blood.
Sept. 20, 2008, 12:16 p.m. CST
Braga to me screwed up the memory of the original series with the abomination Enterprise. 1 trick story Enterprise-C is all I could take. "Enterprise" was a hack attempt to "reinvent" a classic stealing the glory of Roddenberry, and practically trashed the franchise. (i remember the arrogant pre-commercial "Before Janeway" Before Picard, and BEFORE KIRK!", WTF? how can this pre-Enterprise be pushed on ST to be more classic than the classic Kirk Enterprise!??) hope jj can save it.
Sept. 20, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST
Voyager was comparable to being forced to give a blow job to a homeless and Enterprise was the bad taste in my mouth afterwards. I'm staying right the f*ck away from this show.
Sept. 20, 2008, 6:54 p.m. CST
At the mere mention of his name, I can't help but imagine fans actually leaning up and sucking that mother's milk from Braga's nipples. Isn't it absurd hat such images come to mind? It's the main reason I've never been able to give VOY or ENT a second chance. The image is just too deeply burned into my brain, and there's no way I would ever be seen as that person sucking his milk (Although I suppose if you liked DS9 you're at least partly redeemed). All the same, I hold him the most respononsible for ruining Trek.
Sept. 20, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST
by alice 13
omg talk about taking the longest route possible.
Sept. 20, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST
by alice 13
Sept. 21, 2008, 3:15 a.m. CST
I'm not a Galactica fan but I can see why it has a rabid fan following and a critics fave- very well made, brilliant concept, but just not my cup of tea. Anyway, it pains me that Moore didn't win the Trek battle and Braga should've been kicked to the curb- imagine a real prequel to Star Trek with ships barely going above Warp 2, crew firing bulky laser guns and ships armed with nukes, the conflict between the exploration and military wings of Starfleet, action and political intrigue instead we got rehashed TNG and Voyager. Manny Coto tried and mostly succeeded with the last and best Enterprise Season 4 but too little, too late. BermanBraga pissed away a great opportunity to tell the beginings of the Trek universe and wasted a great cast- Connor Trinneer and Jolene Blalock my personal faves. The final BermanBraga fuck you was the "valentine to the fans" known as "These Are the Voyages," better known as the worst series finale ever made.