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AICN Games: Quint finally gets around to reviewing THE FORCE UNLEASHED!

Published at: Sept. 17, 2008, 2:45 a.m. CST by quint



Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I meant to get this review up last night, but I’ve found myself scrambling pre-Fantastic Fest to get as many of my ducks in a row as I possibly can while at the same time arranging interviews, press screenings and my regular Fantastic Fest schedule, so I’m a tad behind. But that’s the good thing about writing a review of a video game. Even if you picked it up last night you might not have had the time to play it all the way through, so I have a little more cushion in posting a review, at least more than on a film. I will begin by saying that I love video games, but I don’t consider myself a serious gamer. I used to think I was, but after I first got onto X-Box Live and started seriously looking at gaming sites I realized I’m, at best, a recreational gamer. I don’t get the appeal of computer games, I’ve always found the keyboard and mouse fucking impossible to manage, so that automatically takes me out of the hardcore gamer circle. I get bored during (most) RPGs, I’ve never played a Final Fantasy game and I don’t like Pokemon. Makes it sound like I hate video games, right? I never, ever thought that about myself until I started exploring the world of gaming a little bit. I love the games I love. I’m addicted to achievement hunting on 360. I’m a recreational gamer, even though I own all three Next Gen consoles. So, take this review as it is, from someone who isn’t an expert on gaming. As a giant fan of the Original Star Wars Trilogy I was interested in this game, which even in the earliest days showed a design template similar to the OT. I’ve never really loved a Star Wars game. I’ve enjoyed the hell out of some of the early Rogue Squadron games (I remember breaking my N64 controller’s trigger because that was the “brake” and I’d squeeze the shit out of it when banking), I enjoyed the Battlefront games, I couldn’t get into KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC because of my disturbing dislike of RPGs, but I did enjoy the story of that game as I watched my little brother play through it. In fact, my absolute favorite Star Wars games have both been arcade games. I have very, very fond memories of playing the original Star Wars arcade game (blowing up wire frame TIE fighters) and I love that Star Wars Trilogy sit-down machine with the one trigger that goes through all three OT movies. I was really good at the lightsaber stuff… Again, all this exposition is supposed to give you an idea of where I’m coming from when I say that The Force Unleashed is my favorite console Star Wars game. In terms of graphics, scope, story and ease of the controls (I played through on X-Box 360, by the way) this one takes the cake. I think it’s because of the focus on the Force powers and the amount of choice you get in what is built up or not. I know that’s a common game technique nowadays, but the diversity of the force powers made me happy. In case you’re curious, my priorities were to upgrade Force Lightning (what it sounds like), Force Grab (the ability to pick up people and objects and throw ‘em around…) and the abilities that upped my saber attacks and get more life from those I lay my wrath upon. But what about the story? The story starts off with a bang. The Emperor is in power, the Empire is rising and Vader is on the hunt for rogue Jedi throughout the galaxy. We start off on the Wookie planet Kashyyyk playing as Vader killing us up some Wookies as we learn our force powers. (Note for XB Achievement whores like me, kill up as many stormtroopers as you can on this level… you’ll get a secret achievement when you hit a certain number) You get to the boss, the Jedi Knight and you fight him in front of a hut with tapestries with the rebel insignia as we know it. You beat the Jedi and have him in a force choke, interrogating him. Vader senses someone more powerful and demands to know where his master is. Suddenly, Vader’s lightsaber flies out of his hand. He turns to see a small child, maybe 5 years old, holding it. He’s terrified, not knowing what’s happening. Without a look back, Vader crushes the life out of this boy’s father, throwing his body to the ground as the Sith Lord approaches the child. Stormtroopers rush in, raise their blasters at the kid and, after a moment of consideration, Vader leaps into action, taking his saber back and killing the troopers. This is the birth of Darth Vader’s secret apprentice, played by Sam Witwer. The next time we see either of them, the Apprentice is in his late teens or early 20s and has finished his training, hidden from the eyes of the Emperor, groomed as Vader’s weapon. Vader tests you out by dispatching you to a TIE fighter factory where one of the few remaining Jedi, General Kota, is staging an attack, after having spent the last decade gathering an army of rebels. We’re almost into the time frame of the OT and the world reflects that. The TIE fighter factory triggered little explosions in the geek-nostalgia section of my brain (ie, almost the entire thing). What’s particularly smart about this set-up is that you get to kill Stormtroopers as well as rebels. And I love how the Stormtroopers are worthless. Love it. You could stand still and let one shoot you for 5 minutes and still not die. It takes one swipe with the saber to kill one. We get bigger and badder fuckers as the levels progress, but everyone that’s just stormtrooper (no bubble shield, no giant Robo-trooper, no fucking flame-thrower) is just how they should be: bad shots that are only strong in great numbers. The physics of the world are very much like God of War, which I like. Great game and I do like the exact series of button presses you have to hit to end bosses and big enemies (chicken walkers, Rancors, etc). I know some don’t, so you’ve been warned. Of course, anybody who has played a video game in the last 5 years knows that halfway through there’s a switcheroo and you question who your true friends are. The Apprentice is dark, but they gave him a Han Solo quality and a little light-hearted aspect to his personality, especially when dealing with Proxy, his droid. Proxy was designed as a training tool for the Apprentice by Vader and constantly reminds us that he will find the perfect place to come in and try to kill us, but he’s the nicest robot the rest of the time. It’s a good relationship that I wish they would have developed a little more. The female eye candy is Juno Eclipse, your pilot who, of course, has a giant rack that is two sizes too big for her Imperial short-top uniform. She’s cute and Nathalie Cox’s British accent is adorable, but she probably could have used a little more development to sell the last act of the game. That’s not to say the cut scenes don’t offer any depth or real emotion. I was very involved with the Apprentice as the game went on and we see him shift from Vader’s lapdog to questioning his orders. He has a great moment where he’s silently meditating, constructing his lightsaber using the force… the pieces slowly, slowly glide together and suddenly Vader’s breathing enters the room and he loses focus, his saber dropping in pieces to the ground. To avoid the hologram cliché, the game creators decide to have Proxy act as whomever is contacting you. He can change into any image uploaded to him and when he’s “taken over” by Vader’s personality, taking his shape completely, he’s always shaky afterwards. That actually leads to a really great exchange. Proxy is Vader, Vader breaks communication and Proxy falls into The Apprentice’s arms, droid again. He weakly says, “I hate being him” and the Apprentice says, “I think he does, too.” It’s a nice bit. Ultimately, the story line is greatly important to fans of the Universe, you get to play some really fun levels, but be prepared for the last few to go from “these levels are a breeze” to “What the fuck!?!?” I’ve played it through on Sith Apprentice once and then on Sith Lord (almost done with it on that difficulty) and the only real difference I see in difficulty is in the bosses, who are now much harder to kill. I greatly enjoyed the game and I look forward to playing through another time or two (took me about 7 or 8 hours to play through the first time, in case you were wondering) and grabbing as many achievements as I can. There, that wasn’t so hard. Hope you PC gamers will be kind to me. I thought movie geeks could go on the attack, but there’s something even more vicious about gaming geeks… I am very much looking forward to hearing the thoughts of others out there, though. So as you play through, feel free to put your thoughts in the talkbacks below. Now that this giant kidney stone has been passed, I might survive the first few days of Fantastic Fest! Keep an eye out for my coverage of that starting in a day or two! -Quint quint@aintitcool.com



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  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:47 a.m. CST

    First..

    by nolan bautista

    the Force is w/ me!!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Will Uncle Owen be in this?..

    by nolan bautista

    or Aunt Beru?..i have both their Action Figures

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:52 a.m. CST

    or Wuher the bartender..

    by nolan bautista

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Star Wars just got cool again

    by HarryBlackPotter

    After the suckfest that was The Clone Wars, Lucas has partly redeemed himself with this game. Let's just hope the Star Wars TV show (which I believe is set in the same time-frame) is as good!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Fifth?

    by Xandar1977

    Maybe? Can't wait to get this game. I need to get my Gorram XBOX fixed. It frezes on every gorram game I play. Stupid Microsoft. Why can't they make ANYTHING that works first time around?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Nice review

    by tomdolan04

    pretty much in line with the video game sites with it's longevity, the implementation of the lightsabre action and a few other glitches being the main bugbears.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:23 a.m. CST

    It's a good game

    by Quint

    Story's good, graphics are good, it's a lot of fun to play. My issues are small ones. The saber attacks aren't that bad, actually, but I was very frustrated with the save points at times. You can save your game, but it'll still go back to the last auto-save point. Not a fan of that. But it's the first Star Wars game to really draw me in... that's what she said... goddamnit Steve Carell!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:30 a.m. CST

    If my RROD ever gets fixed

    by landosystem

    maybe I can play this game. One week to ship me a box, which now has my Xbox in transit for at least a week, then 2-3 weeks to fix, then another to ship back. I should have bought that best buy extended thingy...

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:31 a.m. CST

    Rogue Squardon

    by boardbrtn

    You should, or should have, checked out the Rogue Squardon games on the Gamecube. They were a TON of fun and really easy to get into. Plus you said you liked the old one. When I played the demo of this one, it reminded me of Psy Ops, which kicked ass. Side Note: about the TV show, what if this was sort of a starting off point for the story of the TV show. The character looks like the actor and he isn't an actor too huge to do some TV show... Interesting, I think.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:37 a.m. CST

    You sound pretty hardcore to me Quint

    by photoboy

    PC fanboys might tell you you're not a hardcore gamer for not liking keyboard and mouse, and JRPG players might tell you you're not a proper gamer because you don't want to spend hours on a level grind, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't consider yourself a proper gamer.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:37 a.m. CST

    Play length

    by Thenedain

    While I'm eager as hell to get my paws on Force Unleashed, I'm pretty disappointed to hear that it's only got about 9 hours of play time to it. As much as I love the current crop of games, they all fail in the length department. It seems that just as I'm really getting into them they end. Achievements are a nice idea and all, but I'd really like to get my $50 out of the basic gameplay at least.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Does it have JJs new Enterprise?

    by MattInTheHat

    Or the old school one?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:52 a.m. CST

    I'm glad this game is out...

    by my liege

    ...maybe now they finish that Indiana Jones game that they've been working on for the past million years.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Wow! A useful Gaming review

    by onezeroone

    Quint! You *HAVE* to review Metal Gear Solid 4. Your review sounds more like a gamer than a game critic, maybe coz that's what you are. Now, only if all movie reviews on AICN sounded less like movie-critic, I'd be smiling always.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Why no Jedi?

    by dioxholster

    this sucks they only allow you to play a troubled sith, not even a good one? what happened to rightousness and loyal characters; everything now is bad guy is a good guy and good guy is a bad guy. its like every character got an identity crisis im sick of that, we need real heroes.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:33 a.m. CST

    Super...

    by tomdolan04

    Empire Strikes Back and the original Tie-Fighter games are the Star Wars benchmarks for me. <p> I tried to get into KOTOR but it just didn't grip me. A shame as I like RPG's (FFVII and Oblivion have sucked more life out of me than my girlfriend)

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST

    As a PC Gamer, take this olive branch...

    by raw_bean

    I'm a die-hard PC gamer, but far be it from me to sneer at anyone for how they enjoy their gaming. And even though the controls and lightsaber combat (based on the PS3 demo my flatmate downloaded) aren't as good as the Jedi Knight games on PC, I'm sorely tempted to play through this on my mate's PS3 for the story.<p>Addendum though, it mystifies me how anyone who regularly uses a computer can have trouble finding their way around a keyboard and mouse?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:39 a.m. CST

    replay value & game prices in Australia

    by Amy Chasing

    I've heard a number of people say we get ripped off in Australia when it comes to games. I know some shops that still sell things like Super Mario Galaxy & Zelda: Twilight Princess (can you tell which console I have) for $99. Thing is those games take, well they took me, something like 30+ hours to complete fully. So when you compare them to a 2 hour movie for $15, $99 for a 30 hour game kinda makes sense. <P> Now Quint says he got through Force Unleashed in 7-8 hours. Would it still be worth its $90+ price tag? Does it have alot of replay value or something? Or should I just go and buy Dance Dance Revolution so I can feel like I'm getting some exercise.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:40 a.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by tomdolan04

    Seconded on the 'troubled' character angle. Everything now has to be many shades of grey as opposed to black and white. Sure people will say 'doubt and introspection reflects them more as a human-relateable character' but feck that. Its fantasy. <p> That's why Vader was the most iconic bad guy ever made for 20 odd years until we learnt inside lurked a whiney conflicted ragamuffin.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:50 a.m. CST

    tomdolan04, im not playing this game for one reason only

    by dioxholster

    because i want to play jedi and not sith, jedis are awesome and playing a truely good guy is much harder since star wars world is a dark one already so it only makes sense to show the main character as a symbol of hope. being jedi is much more touching and emotional for me than playing sith; who i cant relate to anyway.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:59 a.m. CST

    re: playing on keyboard & mouse, heck even gamepads

    by Amy Chasing

    When it comes to keyboard & mouse you're using something that wasn't designed with gaming in mind. Console gamepads are but they're still a clunky interface between gamer & game. Motion sensors is getting there, but not quite yet. Basically at the moment it's down to what you're most comfortable with and what you find most fun. One day (hopefully soon) it'll come down to what gives you the most immersive experience. Let's face it, having to hit a bunch of plastic buttons - we only do it because there's nothing better.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:04 a.m. CST

    Length

    by Quint

    I know it's repetitive, but some of the joy I get in playing these games is going through and playing it a second time. Unlocking achievements, searching for hidden things (glowing gold cubes in this one) and just kind of enjoying the world. The way this one is set up (much like Resident Evil 4) is you can start again with all your shit if you want. Granted, RE4 was like 4820 hours, but I think the trend in gaming is to make you play it multiple times. At least that's what I've been seeing... then again, I'm playing shit like Lego Indiana Jones, so...<BR><BR>diox, if you did decide to give this a whirl I think you'd find something interesting in our lead and what he accomplishes in the game.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:05 a.m. CST

    It's dreadful

    by youhatestarwars

    I stole it yesterday, not because I wanted to play the game, but because as a SW scholar I'm greatly interested to see how Lucas can allow shit like this to be shovelled while endorsing it with more than the usual enthusiasm he permits for EU produce while keeping a straight face. The answer: he hates you, because you hate Star Wars. Oh, and as I've been playing games seriously for 23 years, I can tell you that 99% of games to come from outside Japan are worthless.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:07 a.m. CST

    Amy

    by Quint

    Good point. I was a long time coming to the original X-Box, but it was renting it and playing Halo that sold me on the system because of the controller. I loved the N64 controller (although looking at it now it's bulky and hard to manage), but the PS controller doesn't sit right in my hands. Plus I'm addicted to the achievements. So what if my 360 shits the bed every 8 months or so... My PS3 just recently stopped outputting video for some goddamned reason and now my Blu-Rays are stacking up. They're all flawed, but controller is probably the #1 reason I lean toward any console.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:13 a.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by tomdolan04

    No absolutely agree. It's just the point that in literature and film at present there is no shining symbol of hope. Heroes when they do show up always have to be 'conflicted'. I fear the success of Batman will ensure we never get such a clear cut hero again. Rough and ready seems to be the only angle to take and in a world full of shittyness thats depressing <p> This is why the next Superman will be an interesting yet potentially depressing feature. Chris Reeves embodied that gentleman 'adult' sensibility so well. The studios now just think angst ridden hormonal easily swayed 'Heroes' knock-offs are the only way to go. <p> The way to go about it is exactly how the guy who plays the Apprentice in this describes in detail Luke Skywalker/Mark Hamill in the interview conducted a few days back. Seriously. Hamill has his critics but he conveyed it perfectly.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:18 a.m. CST

    youhatestarwars

    by Amy Chasing

    99% of anything is worthless - the Internet proved that a long time ago.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Can't wait for this!

    by Brody77

    Looks great, demo was great, review was great. Soooo...1138 Stormtroopers by any chance? Isn't Sam Witwer the guy doing Doomsday in Smallville? If so, then I question how much of a geek he really is.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:34 a.m. CST

    No PC No Sale!

    by pax256

    Unless they had an option to play with kb and mouse on ps3 or xbox 360... which Im sure they wont do so screw them.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:35 a.m. CST

    'Juno "Eclipse"'?

    by Ghostball

    Really?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:54 a.m. CST

    Amy Chasing

    by youhatestarwars

    "the Internet proved that a long time ago." - Actually its popularity coincided with Y2K and the death of culture as we know it. The internet didn't prove anything. It was merely there to witness said passing. We've been using it a LOT to lament ever since though.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 6:08 a.m. CST

    The Story

    by vadakinX

    I really don't want to give anything away, but if anything I think the story cheapens the movies, including the OT. <p> The game has done more to turn Vader into a pussy than the prequels ever did and the story ultimately makes no sense whatsoever. <p> The game itself is mostly hack and slash. There are some basic puzzle elements and tossing stormtroopers around is always fun, but Knights Of The Old Republic is far better as an action/adventure game and KOTOR II has a far deeper story. <p> Overall, The Force Unleashed is a shallow game both in story and gameplay. It's still fun though. Just don't expect greatness. <p> Now then, Quint. About that Star Wars competition...

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 6:33 a.m. CST

    loved the story...

    by j2talk

    the novel fleshes things out a bit, and makes it a worthy predecessor to A New Hope. I hope we see more games/novels set during this time, indeed I look forward to the Live Action series.........

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 6:35 a.m. CST

    Anybody else see 'Bring Back Star Wars'

    by kwisatzhaderach

    on Channel 4 here in the UK? I'm amazed Lucas let it go ahead without complaining.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 6:40 a.m. CST

    PS3 vs. 360 controllers

    by Ckuouka

    Quint, you're the first person I've ever seen say they like the 360 controller better, but I guess to each their own. Still, I agree, you have to get your PS3 fixed and review MGS4. What is the problem exactly with your video output? Have you tried different cables or even, just calling Sony tech support?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Here ya go, Quint.

    by GeekySciFiAnimeFreak

    AWSD are the main directional keys. The mouse looks around, aims, and fires. Aiming is much easier on the PC. ;-)

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 6:56 a.m. CST

    by all accounts this game is THE SHIT!

    by Maniaq

    the Goldeneye of the new Millennium - and because Lucas didn't write it himself, the plot DOESN'T SUCK <P> PLOT DOES MATTER George. I think I read that on a T-shirt once...

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Lich King Nov 3d

    by Judge Briggs

    I'm getting that for shure... best game ... ever because of the replayability.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Quint

    by Grrrr....

    Thank you for that mate! I really enjoyed this review not just because I think we are the exact same type of gamer but also because you reviewed it as a gamer and not a game reviewer. I preordered it and was getting a bit worried about all the negative reviews but now I can't wait till Friday. It's only being released in our neck of the woods (South Africa, yes.... we have 360's and PS3's) then. Thanks again!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Helped get the movie out of my head

    by Calihoma

    My kid and I were playing it, and it didn't take long for it to trump the Clone Wars 'movie.' In fact, I'd say it passed it during the opening crawl. Not long after, it passed episode one and two, and maybe by the end it will pass ROTS. There are creative people out there making great Star Wars stories, so why has Lucas allowed such huge missteps in the Star Wars legacy?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Never any love for Jedi Outcast

    by BoStrike1

    It seems like I'm the only person who loves this game. It had great force power use, and so far (haven't played Unleashed yet) has the best Lightsaber system...It wasn't perfect, but the 3 stances and direction key controled swings made for some nice versatility. The levels were well designed and it was tons of fun to tear into a room with 20 stormtroopers, running along the walls while pulling their guns out from their hands and throwing your saber through 5 at a time. The multi player CTF was just awesome, I lost many hours playing it.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Why would Lucas complain?

    by Jedibobster

    Why would Lucas complain about a programme (Bring Back...Star Wars) about a programme all about someone's huge love for the Star Wars trilogy? It never said anything bad against the films really, and in any group of people working together some aren't going to get along too well. Although most seemed to anyway. Some are saying that it painted Mark Hamill in a bad light for not appearing - I don't blame him, he's got other stuff he's doing. And some saying Anthony Daniels came across a bit pompous or aloof. No, he's just a well mannered guy who quite rightly defends his character. The man IS Threepio, back in '77 and still now in '08. Well done for him.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Yikes!

    by maddox

    For some reason I thought this game would be more like KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC. I was looking forward to more of an RPG feel.<p>Hey! What's wrong with the stormtroopers? I thought these guys were supposed to be awesome bounty hunters! Now they are relegated to droid-level dundering idiots?<p>Button combos to kill bosses... ugh...

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    "Oh, and as I've been playing...."

    by BangoSkank

    "Oh, and as I've been playing games seriously for 23 years, I can tell you that 99% of games to come from outside Japan are worthless." <p> Brahahahahahahah. Fanboys make me giggle. Enjoy the misery, I'm sure you lap up every bitter drop with both pride and relish.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Jett

    by BoStrike1

    I don't know if you were serious or not, but I'm biting anyway. Aside from the obvious fact that a button is a button, whether it's on a controller or a keyboard, the real reason that hardcore gamers prefer KB/mouse is mousespeed. Simply put, I can instantly face in any direction that I want with a mouse, and it takes time to face with analog. That being said, when two gamers of equal skill go head to head, one with mouse/kb, one with a controller, the mouse/kb has an advantage. It may be a slight one, but you should know that to a competetive gamer, any advantage is worth taking. Lastly, KB's have sooo many more bindable keys than any controller out there, making them more versatile.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST

    it sounds good but

    by etantao

    i'll have to check more reviews and if it's indeed that short maybe i'll rent it cause even a kick ass SW game is not worth full price for 8 hours of gameplay.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    the story sucks

    by Gungan Slayer

    Vader's "secret apprentice" Oh PUH-lease. We all want to PLAY AS Darth Vader, not some dumbass character created for the video game who now enters part of the Star Wars canon. Game's "ok" I suppose. Certainly not the AAA title that LucasArts was hyping, but it is ok nonetheless. Hell, as a Star Wars fan I've gone through and survived such things as "Force Commander" and "Super Bombad Racing."

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Lucus lost 30 programers at the end of this cause he's a dick

    by g-ride9000

    pretty much all of the people who made this game left Lucas Arts. It puts a bad taste in my mouth....Won't buy it but I will play it at your house.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Tough life, eh Quint?

    by dr sauch

    You get to play video games and talk about them online, and thank heavens you finished before your awesome film festival starts! I need some Haterade.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Quint you fool, play this on the Wii

    by Rickey Henderson

    Fuck graphics (although Rickey loves his 360) how does using the wiimote as a lightsaber NOT appeal to you?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    i watched Bring back Star wars too

    by theycallmemrglass

    It was pretty damn funny and a bit sad too. I never knew Baker and Daniels hated each other. Baker was the one who came across sour and whining "I'm not coming if Tony is there". The one who talks bad about another, is the one I have no respect for. As for Warwick, man, he has a heart of gold. Always bloody happy, its annoying. It was really sweet when he turned up all suited up with his wife all big smiles despite no one else yet turning up. Billy Dee, Mayhew, Fisher rocked! They are so sporting despite the geek gate crashing their homes! And Carrie Fisher filming a hologram message apologising for not being there and asking Obi Wan for help was brilliant.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST

    I'm so glad I rented this...

    by OBSD

    I would have been pissed if I spent $60.00 on this thing. It's a repetitive, glitchy, (wonky camera, invisible walls)stingy, (with the power-ups)not as cool PG ripoff of GOD OF WAR. The story line may be cool, but the level design is the same old thing. Walk down a hall for a bit, kill a bunch of bad guys, keep walking, kill more bad guys. It's not a bad game, but like a lot of stuff Star Wars related lately, it doesn't live up to the promises it gave.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST

    The Wii version has a higher rating

    by Sith Witch

    than the PS3 or 360. Can't wait for my copy to show!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Spoiler, please

    by Jodet

    I will NEVER play this game. Can someone please tell me the big 'plot twist' at the end?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST

    And BTW, whatever happened to the AICN gaming section?

    by Rickey Henderson

    AICN ran some sort of contest to find a new columnist, and no one was ever selected? Come on now folks, Rickey is disappointed (especially because Rickey submitted his name for consideration for aforementioned column!)<br> <br> By the way getting back to this game, Rickey would point out that it does have a number of problems that wouldn't get a pass if this wasn't a Star Wars game. The game features a samera that would make Ninja Gaiden jealous and load times that would make Motorstorm jealous. What's worse, there's a rough/unfinished feel to the game and some serious issues with the targeting system. But LucasArts do deliver what they promised: a badass Star Wars brawler with a lot of destruction and a pretty solid story. Rickey gives it a B. (for Bantha).

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Anyone wanting the story but not wanting to play the game:

    by Amy Chasing

    The comic is out, and it's quite a good adaptation of a video game.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Why isn't it "The Dark Side Unleashed"???

    by RobotDevil007

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST

    PC Gaming Equals Hardcore? Bullshit.

    by TheLastCleric

    There just happens to be some very vocal PC gamers who moonlight as anal swabs all the while extolling the virtues of their platform. What these douche-nozzles never bother to mention is how many outstanding games don’t see a PC release, including most fighters and various platform exclusives, like Metal Gear and God of War. That isn’t to say PC gaming doesn’t offer some awesome games but the consoles offer software just as good and without the hassle of hardware upgrades. Also, I’ve played my fair share of PC games and I’ll take a double analog stick over a mouse and keyboard every time.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    What did you think of the Star Destroyer, Quint?

    by PirateEmery

    I nearly spent an hour last night trying to bring the damn thing down from the heavens. It was the hardest thing I've ever had to do in a video game, to date.<p> But I do see your point: the game really does go from "this is actually rather easy" to "what the fuck, how did this get so hard all of a sudden."

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    "Xbox" not "X-Box"

    by Ayii

    Microsoft has never released an "X-Box", Sony has never released a "PS-3", and Nintendo has never released a "N-64". Don't put dashes in words that don't have them, it makes you look like an amateur.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    How do you spell Vader's breathing?

    by ReekPoodoo

    Witwer also plays the voice of Palpatine in the game.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    "What happened to the game section"

    by ArcadianDS

    There were a grand total of about 4 emails that floated around. They had selected about 8 contributors, and then said, "If anyone can travel to LA or Austin for visits, let us know" and that was the last email I got.<p> Maybe I just got dumped because I sometimes disagree with Harry's reviews.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    bring back star wars

    by jackalcack

    Was kind of obvious he wouldn't get Harrison Ford, a shame about Mark Hamill though. I well didn't buy what they were all saying about him trying to distance himself from Star Wars though. He still speaks to George Lucas and he even sent up his performance in Jay and Silent Bob with that bong lightsabre fight. I'd have to disagree with you Mr. Glass though about Daniels and Baker. Daniels seemed like a right up his own ass luvvie prick whereas Baker just seemed down to earth and normal. The impression I got was that he seriously looked down on him (no pun intended) cos he's a thespian snob. Warwick Davis though - sound as fuck.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Are the powers of the Force greater than,

    by skimn

    less than, or equal to the psi powers from that ol' PS2 game Psi-Ops? That game had the great ability to take over someones body and have then walk into their doom (fall out of tower, walk into machinery, etc.). Very satifying, and well done for a PS 2 game.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to playing

    by Doctor A

    I think you are wrong about KOTOR, but I'm looking forward to trying this one out. I think I will go with PS3 instead of XBOX360 for this game though.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    No mouse & keyboard

    by DocPazuzu

    = fail.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST

    ReekPoodoo

    by vadakinX

    Kkhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhh.....kksssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Funny video on YouTube...

    by mbeemer

    A kid posted a video of him mock-whining about his SW:TFU for the Wii. He complains that the bloody game won't work(!) because Darth Vader won't walk left when he pushes left on the nunchuck controller. (Also points out that he tested his controller on another game and it IS working.)<p> The kid mock cries and has some fun with it, but it's clear that he is PISSED!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    3 Words: WiiMotion Light Saber

    by PornKing

    That will be a game to play. Now if only the wii had decent graphics capability.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    This game is a lot of fun for a Star Wars fan

    by MattmanReturns

    I'm three hours in and though it's not a masterpiece, this game is pure fun, which is more than I can say for most Star Wars games. Everything is really well done and very cinematic. I haven't found it repetitive yet.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Seriously

    by Jodet

    What IS the big 'plot twist'?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Bought it, haven't played it

    by Heckles

    Circuit City gives you a $5 gift card and a lame t-shirt. Better than nothing. Looking forward to Force choking some bitches!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    ummm

    by fartedinthefaceofhollywood

    i played the demo of this game and i must say....gameplay-wise its about as deep as a kiddie pool and about as fun as playing in a kiddie pool. i would play this for story only which means....rental. anyway, as for controller differences....the 360s controller is heavier but i like the spacing of the analogs better....the ps3 controller is lighter and while the analogs arent spaced like id like them to be....they do FEEL better when it comes to the smoothness of movement. so your ps3 displays no video now???....hmmm, did this just happen or did you fuck up the video settings??? anyway, the Shitbox360 has the best games but owning one is like playing russian-fucking-roulete and until they release a console thats fuck up-free...im holding off, ive already been burned once and that was from a launch console i owned for ever 2 years.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    rented the ps2 version

    by El Borak

    suprised at how good it is. very very short though. you can unlock a bunch of costumes and play as vader if you want.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST

    spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by El Borak

    spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br> <br>dude does evil, turns good, helps founders of the rebellion. two endings....fight vader then palps and die = good ending, kill off vader = dark ending. main twisat is that the dude helps form the rebellion and thy use his family crest as the rebel symbol. cameos include leia, bail organa, vader, palps, hologram of obi-wan and lobot.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Arguing about controller comfort is pointless.

    by Johnno

    Only the most asanine people seem fit to do so. Unless there's some remarkably incompetent ergonomic design work involved, people will simply prefer controllers they are used to. Or in some cases, some games are better suited to a certain control scheme than others. Me, I prefer the keyboard and mouse for RTS games, though I see poetential in the Wiimote to make it work on consoles. THe PS3 allows for mouse and keyboard support, it's really up to developers to allow for it but they wont due to 'balance' issues or some bullshit. I personally prefer the Dualshock controllers from the PS for most of my gaming. I'm used to it and it's second naure to me. No problems whatsoever... Most of the time it's usually the game that has shitty controls.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Johnno

    by fartedinthefaceofhollywood

    just wanna let ya know, im not arguing ANYTHING about controllers....just giving MY opinion. but ya know whats strange, i own Call of Duty 4 on 360 AND ps3 (stupid i know....but i have friends on BOTH networks) and my accuracy AND kill to death ratio is MUCH better on ps3...and i firmly believe its due to the smoothness of the analogs increasing the effectiveness of my ability to aim. but thats just me.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST

    I FUCKING LOVE MY PS3 but...

    by SpreadLegsNotWar

    ...I find the 360 controllers much more comfortable and easier to wield than the PS3 controllers and I find that's the general consensus among my gamer friends.<p>I'll probably pick TFU up, I've heard lots of good things about it.<p>And Quint, definitely check out MGS4 when you get your PS3 fixed, it's awesome.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Sith Witch...

    by SpreadLegsNotWar

    The Wii version does not have a higher rating, check MetaCritic.<p>Wii, fucking lol.<p>"Look! I'm waggling imprecisely and my graphics suck but hey, good graphics doesn't equal good gaming!". I find every single Wii game I buy, save for Nintendo properties, I play for about a week then my Wii collects dust until the next fad for it comes out and the cycle repeats. Have fun with Wii Music.<p>Disclaimer: I own all three

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST

    SpreadLegs

    by fartedinthefaceofhollywood

    thats pretty much the attitude of MOST Wii owners....at least from what i gather. MOST run out and buy one so frantically youd think there head will explode into a cloud of red confetti if they dont get handed a receipt and bag PRONTO. they get home...play it and think "this is the most fun ive had since learning about masterbation" then a few weeks later and a few lame ass games later...they realize wow, what a pre-mature ejaculation that was...oh well, something has to attract all the dust in my house. i dont HATE the Wii and i know it has a loyal fanbase...but i think it gets alot of its popularity from bullshit word of mouth and some (not ALL) of its games being such gimmicky things that are made to cash-in on the whole "motion controls" venture.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    oh well

    by fartedinthefaceofhollywood

    but thats the nature of the beast right...companies are in it to get your money, and of that means imploring gimmicks...so be it...i mean...remember Crystal Pepsi???

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Controls and Lucasarts Games...

    by Darth Macchio

    I've been playing Lucasarts games since way WAY back in the day (I'm thousands of years old). As in X-Wing, TIE Fighter, X-wing V TIE Fighter, Rogue Squadron 1&2, Dark Forces 1&2, jedi knight (df2), Outcast, Academy, KOTOR 1&2 and SWG (never played Battleforces, or the RTS games, etc).<p>The best saber play I think got good in Outcast and became totally kick ass in Academy. Outcast is a better game storywise but Academy has the martial aspects of saber fighting, including SW's martial art "Teras Kasi" skills, down pat. You can replicate the fighting style of Maul and it's non stop fun. Flip the decapitation cheat and you can be master cuizinart with kick ass force powers (nothing like seeing a room full of troopers blasted into orbit from your lvl 3 force lightening blast!). Dual bladed sabers, 2 sabers at same time, fighting stances, etc...max your force powers and combined with the sheer amount of player control, just jumping around and hitting power moves is fun all on it's own. That game would provide the best model for any FPS w/lightsabers in any Lucasarts game, period.<p>And I think a fight between console gamers and pc-gamers is stupid. I will say that for those who think keyboard and mouse is back asswards, that I and any other kb/mouse gamer would light you up quicker n shit as the response time for those input devices is MUCH lower than those dedicated consoles. Granted, I do not own any of these consoles so I could easily be wrong now but I remember playing FPS games online and people would use gamepads and they were like having a combat match with ninja against old people or kindergarteners. Easy pickins, in other words.<p>Gameworld (or whatever) actually did an article a couple years back where they put gamepad players up against kb/mouse gamers and it was a slaughter. The gamepad gamers were horribly stunted by their controller's slower response time (you have to hit a button or push a lever, and 'wait' to turn around whereas I can turn around as fast as I can physically move my mouse. which is based on my own hand-eye coordination and quickness. I'm sorry but this is worlds above a gamepad that doesn't allow my skill to be determined purely through hand-eye and simple quickness but on who pushed the lever first).<p> While it may take some getting used to, having access to so many 'single button' actions (via keys) and the tracking of good optical mice, there's just no competition that can match them that I've seen personally. So before you call keyboard/mouse gamers "gay" realize that they could easily own your ass in any game you played them in if you put your gamepad up against a kb/mouse. I've got a gamers kb with over 40 keys all reachable with one hand...a 2000 dpi mouse that tracks literally as fast as I can move it...i can spin so fast in an mmorpg that to others it looks blurry! I don't believe you can match that with a gamepad...but I could be wrong.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST

    bought it yesterday, played it a bit last night and . . .

    by Richard Richard Mayhew

    I've got to say a couple of things about it, by god. First of all, what twist? There is no twist. If that thing about the rebels was supposed to really be a 'twist' to the story then they really telegraphed their punches. You see it coming from halfway into the game . . . and that's not a criticism. Second, as far as 3-d platformers go, this is good. It's not the best. It's not the worst. It's solid though. Third, accepting that this and the Star Wars movies (all seven of them) are "products" and Star Wars canon . . . ST:FU is better than half of the movies. And as for this whole ridiculous controller debate, anyone who says any controller is better than the PowerGlove can lick my ass. "I love the PowerGlove."

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 1:21 p.m. CST

    You should get used to the PC controls, Quint

    by SlickyVonBoner

    Mouse and Keyboard are unrivaled, compared to any controller. They are alittle overwhelming and confusing at first, but you can't beat the sensitivity of the mouse. Though depending on the PC game they might not use them efficiently. Watch for mouse/keyboard setups for consoles, and watch those setups rule on-line gaming.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    People ragging on the Wii

    by Toonol

    Are every bit as much myopic fanboys as, say, people who claim 99% of games not from Japan suck, or that in seriousness utter the phrase "you're not a real gamer because ______"

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Wii version is better than Xbox version...

    by Giario

    I own an Xbox by the way. Played this on friend's Wii and it's the better version, although there's not much in it. Am buying a Wii plus this game this weekend as a result.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Sega Genesis

    by mrbong

    can't find a copy of it for it, anyone have any ideas?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Whatever Toonol

    by SpreadLegsNotWar

    I own a Wii and I can say it sucks if I want to, doesn't make me a fanboy.<p>The thing has Xbox 1 graphics, waggling sucks and gets old quick and every single game I've played outside of the Mario, Zelda, Metroid realm has wonky tacked on motion controls and shitty graphics.<p>It's a fucking peripheral producing shit hole also. The console isn't good enough as is so please buy 80 million pieces of plastic to make it better is the Nintendo philosophy. Wii Fit was cool for about a week until I realized that it doesn't do shit other than make you look like an idiot and once the wife realized that as well, it went in the closet never to be seen again.<p>It's a great emulator and Nintendo franchise player but other than that it can lick my balls and again, saying so doesn't make me a fanboy of anything other than quality gaming.<p>Fucking thing doesn't render in HD, doesn't even fucking play DVDs, doesn't have a hard drive and everyone and their mother is making shovelware shit for it because everyone's been suckered into this lame-ass mantra that "good graphics doesn't equate good gameplay"<p>Tell you what, you can have both, get a 360 or PS3. As an owner of all three, I'm of the opinion that the Wii sucks and how they've managed to be the "winner" this generation is a fucking mystery.<p>Oh and have fun with Wii Music, Nintendo's big holiday game. FUCKING LOL

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    targeting system is shit

    by bluebottle

    maybe it's just me.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    I had a Wii. . .

    by Richard Richard Mayhew

    But I traded it in on a PS3 because I realized that, personally, the only reason I was holding onto it was that I WANTED to love it and NOT because I was playing with it (that's what she said) regularly. WiiSports WAS fun but it didn't have enough staying power and too many of the other games got so hung up on the novelty of the controls that they didn't bother to go past that. I DO agree with Nintendo's point though that games don't need to have better and better graphics to be better games, but Nintendo is dropping the ball with the Wii the same way they are dropping the ball with the DS. More games. They need MORE GAMES.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Quint: Have you ever played

    by Arch Nemesis

    the Return of the Jedi arcade game that was out in the mid-late 80s? If old school star wars and the trilogy game are your favorites you may really like this one too.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Nice review Quint

    by DarthJedi

    and you are absolutely right about PC gamers as I'm one of them. This type of game, a FPS, is meant for a PC platform as there is no other controller or combo that can match the quickness and agility you get with the keyboard/mouse. When you say the MB/M combo is impossible to manage, you're right at first. But once you get it down there is absolutely no comparison. Ironically, it was the first Jedi Knight game that got me to switch to KB/M from a controller or just keyboard. I am more than pissed that Lucas isn't releasing this on PC as every other game they've put out has been and the game itself looks like they took the previous games up a notch. DAMN YOU LUCAS ARTS!!!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    DarthJedi. . .

    by Richard Richard Mayhew

    Uh, this ain't an FPS. . .

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    The Wii, from an Owner's Perspective

    by PirateEmery

    I own a Wii and a 360. When the PS3 starts coming out with worthwhile games, then I will buy it (with one month's worth of a paycheck, Sony).<p> The Wii is a very fun console. For first parties.. only... Apart from that, it does indeed just collect dust. The thing with the Wii is that it is a "grass is always greener" type thing. If you don't have one, you're trying to get one. If you have one, you don't touch it in six month spans.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    The Wii version is held to a different standard.

    by TheLastCleric

    The Wii has a shit third party library and a dearth of action games (the last great action game was No More Heroes and that was released in early spring) so even though the scores are comparable, the Wii version is a much different beast than the XB360 and PS3 versions. The Wii version is actually the same as the PS2 version but comes with a duel mode which could be fun but looked horrible in the videos I watched. The Wii version isn’t better but it does appear to be a decent action title and I may eventually get it after a price drop. That said, the XB360 version is very, very good.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    PirateEmery...

    by SpreadLegsNotWar

    I don't understand how anyone can make the kind of statement you made concerning the PS3's library. I mean, this isn't a year ago when I would agree that the PS3's library was lacking. It reached a point quite some time ago where the cross-platform games are now equally rated for the PS3 and 360.<p>Below is a list of the PS3 exclusives, are you telling me that as a gamer, you don't care for any of these games?<p> LittleBigPlanet<br> Uncharted: Drake's Fortune<br> Resistance: Fall of Man<br> Resistance: Fall of Man 2<br> MotorStorm<br> MotorStorm: Pacific Rift<br> Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots<br> Heavenly Sword<br> God of War 3<br> Killzone 2<br> Gran Turismo 5<br> inFAMOUS<br> MLB '08: The Show<br> SOCOM: Confrontation<br> Hot Shots Golf<br> Ninja Gaiden Sigma<br> Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction<br> Tekken 6<br> Time Crisis 4<br> Warhawk<br> SIREN: Blood Curse<br> Calling All Cars!<br> Flower<br> Fat Princess<br> FF Versus<br> Massive Action Game<br> Metal Gear Online<br> Nucleus<br> Pixel Junk<br> Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty<br> Super Stardust HD<br> Wipeout HD/PS3<p>I mean, I know it sounds fanboyish to come to the defense of the PS3 like this (again, disclaimer: I own all three and love my 360) but to say that it has no games just comes off as some pre-programmed Sony hatred or something because there are a TON of awesome games for the PS3 now.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    BangoSkank

    by youhatestarwars

    "Brahahahahahahah. Fanboys make me giggle. Enjoy the misery, I'm sure you lap up every bitter drop with both pride and relish." - Maybe after you've washed your own shit off your hands perhaps you can explain this moronic statement.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Star Wars Unleashed

    by youhatestarwars

    This game has glaring problems that are standard videogame design 101 faux pas. There's no reason to fight the enemies, and because it's a chore to do so anyway, simply running from A to B without confontation is preferable. Huh. The attacks, such as they are, offer no practical incentives for selective use. They look different, that's it. The bosses don't require any actual tactics, they simply have retardedly extended lifebars to make battling them a test of endurance, not skill. It's lightweight, repetitive and bug-ridden. Anyone championing this shit is an inbecile. It's bad Star Wars, and a bad videogame. Don't buy it.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:39 p.m. CST

    the big twist SPOILER

    by GavinVanDraven

    Vader is initially intending to use Starkiller to overthrow the emperor. the rule of two sith, one to have absolute power, the other to crave it, is a central theme in star wars. Vader tries to turn Luke to the dark side to overthrow Palps in ESB and ROTJ. Starkiller is not a sith. he is not a jedi. he becomes one or the other based on your final choice in the game. the canon ending has him become a jedi posthumously, in the alternate ending he becomes a sith and supplants vader as palpys apprentice. when palpatine learns of Vader's betrayal, Vader makes it look to the emperor that he has killed the apprentice. Vader then sends his apprentice on a secret mission to start an alliance of rebels to draw the emperor's focus away from Vader's plot to destroy him. the apprentice gathers all the enemies of the empire together to form the rebel alliance, not knowing that Vader allowed this to happen only so that all of his enemies would be lured together at one time so he could wipe them out all at once. Vader unwittingly starts the rebel alliance, and by starkiller returning to the light side of the force and nearly taking down the emperor single handedly... he inspires the rebels and makes their resolve all the stronger. his family crest is now the familiar symbol for the rebellion. how about that for a twist? the rebellion is Vader's idea.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Youhatestarwars

    by BangoSkank

    It means that my guess is that you enjoy being a miserable twat. You're a hater, and a fanboy. 99% of all non-Japanese games are crap? I don't know why I commented, it's one of those ridiculous generalizations that really doesn't warrant a response... <p> Fans believe in something they like the best, fanboys believe that there is a universal rule that what they like, is the best. <p> You've been playing games for 20+ years? That's got to make you close to 30, but you've got the mentality of a six year old. What I like is awesome! What you like sucks! Whatever. Yeah, we live in a consumer culture where mediocrity is the rule, but you keep those blinders on, you're going to miss out on a lot of joy. <p> Not that I give a shit.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST

    if they still do the live action tv show

    by GavinVanDraven

    this story should be a part of the show. it is canon now after all. Sam Witwer is already the apprentice character, the Chad Vader guy does a fine job replacing James Earl Jones... (all you need is a huge guy to wear the suit and Vader can be a regular on the show.) Ian McDirmad can make guest appearances as the emperor, jimmy smits can be a regular... i think you have at least a piece of the story already there. you cant have a star wars show without some jedi action, and this would be a perfect starting point.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    are they still doing the live action show?

    by GavinVanDraven

    somebody who knows answer this?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    BangoSkank

    by youhatestarwars

    "Not that I give a shit." - Way to disprove by posting there, champ. Yeah I'm a fanboy, because the thing I'm a fan of consistently delivers. Crazy!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Dark Forces

    by Willips Brighton

    ...was the shit. It would probably look pixelated and crappy to me if I fired it up now, but at the time...whoo boy.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Gavin: I think you're a little off... (SPOILER)

    by mbeemer

    ... on who planned what. In the end it's clear that the whole thing was the Emperor's idea and that all the play acting between him and Vader was simply to embellish the deception.<p> It does quite nicely underscore the fact that Palpatane is a lying, boastful sack of @$#* and that "Everything is transpiring as I have foreseen" in ROTJ is just spin to make himself seem invincible - he had regained the upper hand at the time, but his plans backfired on him BIG TIME.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Some Star Wars Games really kick ass

    by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET

    And this one looks to be the type that is in the "Yes it Does indeed Kick that Ass" category. Too bad this one's not on PC. Rouge Squad was the best Star Wars Game ever, KOTOR was interesting but I didn't like the RPG combat system. Not a big RPG guy either. I like seeing the action happen as soon as I depress a button. Shadows of the Empire rocked my world. The Battle Arena series- Mmm not really digging it... Wish it was Factor 5's Rouge Squad. Damn we need a massive online Rouge Squad game with death match with Factor 5 involved! and on the PC. Because controllers work for the PC now. I play FPS game using my wacom tablet, but I still hate the WASD way of playing.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Never thought i'd be jelous of Wii owners

    by FILMFUNK

    But they get to play this propper like by weilding their sabers in real time and using the other thingy to do force powers!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    I thought the Wii lacks

    by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET

    Some levels and that PsyX system.. Right????

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    SpreadLegs

    by PirateEmery

    Is God of War III out? Because, last I checked, it wasn't. Actually, FF Versus isn't out either...<p> As for the rest of those, I couldn't care less. As I already have a 360, I see no need to get a PS3 until an exclusive that I want is released. $399 isn't exactly pocket change...<p> I'm not decrying the PS3 as a console or its players: I'm just saying that it isn't for me. Yet...

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST

    SpreadLegsNotWar..

    by Fixthe Fernback

    Do me a favour, 50% - 60% of games on that list are not even out yet, some not until 2009!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Console Wars

    by joker2thief

    Since this is turning into one... I'm a recent purchaser of a PS3, which I bought after A LOT of hard thinking about where to put my money. What was the deciding factor? 2 things: First, the network. Yes, there are more people on the Xbox network, but it costs a $5.00 monthly fee. So even though the box itself is cheaper, you've got to add $60 a year to the tag. PS3 has few network members (even though it is growing), but has free, dedicated servers. Thats a big deal for me. Second, Blu-Ray. For those of us who don't have $100 a month to spend on HD TV programming, HD movies are the only way we get to enjoy our HDTVs. After blu-ray won the format war, buying a console that doubles as an HD movie player just makes financial sense, especially if money is somewhat tight and you don't want to shell out the cost of a second console just to own a dedicated blu-ray dvd player. Now, for gamers who have the money to own multiple consoles, I guess the sky's the limit and they can have their cake and eat it too. For a new console gamer on a budget who wants to get the most out of his already-decent-investment in an HDTV, the PS3 was the right choice, for what it's worth.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    mbeemer

    by GavinVanDraven

    well, i did beat this game at like 6am... so i might have missed that little tidbit. so is it safe to assume that Vader planned to take down the emperor, but when his plot was discovered he went into the "rebel alliance" deal with palps after "proving his loyalty" to him? i dont believe the apprentice was the emperor's idea.....

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Not trying to start a system war

    by Ckuouka

    Just saying he's the first person I ever heard say they preferred the 360 controller. I'm happy with my PS3. I'm sure people are happy with their 360's. Don't see any reason for us to actually fight, as I don't think either of us have stock in Sony or Microsoft. <BR><BR> That said, I still think nothing will ever beat the six-button Genesis/Saturn controller (although when they made the "Nights" analog controller, it was huge and cumbersome).

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:02 p.m. CST

    tehDude...

    by SpreadLegsNotWar

    True but most of them will be out by the end of the year.<p>My point was that people who say there are no games for the PS3 are kind of talking out of their assholes.<p>With the many cross-platform games and the very good exclusive PS3 games that are out and the PSN offerings, there's plenty of good shit to play on the PS3 and much more awesomeness coming.<p>And yeah, I hear you PirateEmery, if there's nothing on the PS3 exclusive or PSN list that floats your boat, that's cool, but that doesn't mean that there's no games for the system, a mantra oft repeated by 360 fanboys.<p>We're all gamers right? It's silly to argue over which console is best, the 360 and PS3 are both great consoles and we're lucky to be able to experience the awesomeness contained in each.<p>Except for the Wii, it can suck my balls. Anyone want to buy a used one? Just kidding. Kind of.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:14 p.m. CST

    SpreadLegs

    by PirateEmery

    And when I said no games for the PS3, I truly meant no games for the PS3 that I am interested in. Totally not decrying the console on a whole. With the Blu-ray and everything else in there, I really do believe that the PS3 could be the superior console.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:14 p.m. CST

    And the comment on the Wii.

    by PirateEmery

    True dat.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:16 p.m. CST

    The Wii

    by Ckuouka

    I third that. System for old ladies, children, and retards.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:38 p.m. CST

    $60 games, $30 movies

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    $60 is not bad for a game, and 7-10 hrs is a decent length - if you look at games like this one as "movies you are allowed to participate in" - a blu ray movie is $30 and about 2 hrs, and you can only watch - silly analogy, but it works for me - this game seems steeped in story, it is "the next installment" of the saga - it happens to be a game too - i loved "resistance" and it was kinda short - but it was a cool story - playing it was like being in a cool sci fi movie - im sure thats the case with tfu - i just finished "assassins creed", same analogy applies - good story, cinematic, wish it were longer but didnt feel cheated

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Ckuouka

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ps3 is the best system in my opinion - developers arent designing games that take full advantage of it capabilities (yet) - because 360 seems to get first dibs on cross console titles - for example, the last splinter cell game debuted on 360 - a year later it comes out for ps3 (a more powerful system that uses discs with a 50 gig capacity) - but the ps3 version pales next to the 360 version, its actually scaled back reather than expanded - ? - i hope this changes and we start getting big expansive ps3 titles - im still pissed that theres no "mass effect" for ps3 - i actually got a ps3 to watch blu rays with - the games are a bonus

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8 p.m. CST

    You can't give an honest review after one day of playing.

    by ganymede3010

    I've been playing the DEMO since it was released last month. Each and everyday I find a new combo, I new way to kill multiple enemies at once. When I look at the game videos, I can honestly say that they fucking suck. They do the same combo over and over. Even the Demo had a myriad of combos, that I have yet to see anyone duplicate on any videogame site. Please take your time, and patiently play the game before you review it. I bet you quint went through the entire game using the same remedial combo. Guys, I you love Starwars, you'll fucking love this game.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Actually

    by Ckuouka

    EA noticed that too and started doing the opposite, so as to get both versions equal. "Mirror's Edge," "Burnout: Paradise," and "Dead Space" were all done on PS3 first and programming was transferred to the 360.<BR><BR>The problem arises when games are scaled back so that they are equal, but the developers would've been able to do more had it been PS3 only. ID software recently spoke out about the game, "Rage," that is due for PS3, 360, and PC, and stated that it was being gimped on the PS3 and PC because they can't fit everything they wanted to put in it on the 360.<BR><BR> "During my talk today I mentioned that we originally wanted to have around 5 or 6 smaller wasteland environments but later decided instead to have 2 larger wastelands," he explained. "Mostly because we were going to be shipping on two DVDs for the 360 and felt that it would play better with one large wasteland on each disc so there would be no loading between wastelands."

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    I agree with Quint on the controller...

    by virtual_ninja

    I own all 3 consoles, but I buy every single multi-platform game on my 360 because I like the control a lot better. Other factors I take into consideration are xbox live and achievments, so yeah, xbox 360 is my favorite console but I enjoy the ps3 as well.

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Wii = gimmicky kids toy

    by BrowncoatJedi

    a few good 1st party games, but other than that it's a crap system

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Ckuouka

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i read the same "rage" article - looks cool too - i saw some youtube of id's tech show - im eagerly anticipating a "mass effect" type game for ps3 - i almost got a 360 just to play that game - a deep vast rpg that takes full advantage of the ps3 processor and format would be nice - i heard its hard to develop for the ps3 - well at least theres "dead space", "heavy rain" and "resistance 2" on the way - they all look to be very cool - and theres still "ratchet and clank", "msg4' and "drakes fortune" - havent plated them but them yet, but they look great - i did play the "drakes fortune" demo, a lot of fun

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:27 p.m. CST

    i meant "played"

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:27 p.m. CST

    honest question:

    by Amy Chasing

    If you have a current PC, why would you buy a 360 or PS3?

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST

    a star wars rpg that plays like "oblivion"

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    would be cool - with speeders, ships and ridable beasts (like taun tauns)

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Picked it up last night [SPOILERS]

    by watch_the_world_burn

    First of - yes, very short. Finished it in under 7 hours and didn't feel like I was rushing through. I did have fun though. Basically it's an action game like Conan or those LOTR games, except with a lightsaber and the Force. </p> I story was ok, kept me interested. I realise they're a bit limited setting it between episodes 3 and 4 but they did well. It can't match the story of the KOTOR series. I don't really see how it was "pivotal" to Darth Vader's history as claimed, it pretty much just reaffirmed his position as Palpatine's bitch. In the end I was left with the impression that Vader never intended to overthrow the Emperor using Starkiller - that it was all just an elaborate ploy concoted by the two Sith to bring the Empire's enemies to the surface. </p> Gameplay-wise it was good fun. I didn't really try that many of the combos, mainly because I didn't have to! Beating the shit out of enemies with the lightsaber while chuking in the odd push/lighting/throw seemed to do the trick most of the time. I enjoyed the jedi fights, it harkened back to those in the Jedi Knight series (but not as good). The timed events were a bit easy though. The only part I got bogged down in was bringing down the Star Destroyer, but after a couple of attempts I was able to take out the TIE fighter squadrons pretty quick which made it a lot easier. </p> The different planets looked very nice on the Xbox. Re-visiting them halfway through the game seemed like a bit of a cop-out, but it tied in well with the strength/power progression: In the first few levels while taking out enemies was a bit of a chore I was able to admire the scenery, but when I came back to the same planets I didn't mind cos I was just having fun with my new powers and enjoying how easy it was to kick the ass of enemies who had given me a bit of trouble earlier in the game. </p> I'll play it through again tonight to check out the Dark Side ending, although a friend just told me there are 3 endings so I'll have to look into that. On the whole, a good rental for most people. I paid $78 AU for it which is alright, but it could be cheaper given the length. Then again, most of these hyped-up games coming out nowadays are quality over quantity anyway. Only RPGs like Oblivion or multiplayer games like Halo have any longevity. Bring on Fallout 3!

  • Sept. 17, 2008, 11:02 p.m. CST

    any new n64 game in 1999 was $60

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    thats what i remember paying for pod racer, rogue squadron, turok and golden eye back in the late 1990s - the price of a new game hasnt changed in 10 years - and nowadays you get a lot more for that price imo

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 12:35 a.m. CST

    DIDN

    by Series7

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 12:37 a.m. CST

    'T LIKE POKEMON!

    by Series7

    Fucking internet... everyone played the first Pokemon. Admit it, you loved it. I was a blue edition myself. Bought Pokemon Pinball to see how the rumble pack worked on Gamboy then gave up on Pokemon. I think I bought that Pokemon Battle game for N64 played it once and never did anything with it again. I did that a lot with N64 games.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Just pre ordered my Lego Batman Game

    by BrightEyes

    Not enough cash for this but when I get some I definitely want it.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Quint...

    by tattooray

    Loved the review. Pretty dead-on. Just out of curiosity, what's your gamerscore? I'm an achievement whore myself. I'd ask you what your gamertag is also, but this ain't the place to be handin' that out.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 3:01 a.m. CST

    This game gets a...

    by tattooray

    9 out of ten from me. It started out as a 7.5 and slowly grew to a 9. The frickin' environments are gorgeous, Especially Raxus Prime. It's a bit buggy and repetitive which is why I don't give it a 10. It's sayin' a lot that this game can get a score like that from me on the strength of presentation and fanboy service. I enjoy the combat as well. There're quite a few different ways to combo the Force powers if on takes the time to explore. If you're a Star Wars fan of any kind, pick it up.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 3:13 a.m. CST

    And...

    by tattooray

    if I hear one more person utter the words "Shitbox 360" or "Gaystation 3", I'm gonna beat a kitten to death. ALL of the systems have there merits, even the Wii. Where else are you gonna play Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles or Mario Galaxy or Twilight Princess or Metroid Prime Corruption or um, yeah, that's about it. I still love the thing, though. And I can sympathize with Quint. My PS3 just stopped playin' Blu-rays. Packed 'er in the coffin to ship back today. My favorite of the three, though, is the 360. I've had 2 red rings so far. One a premium and then an Elite. I was furious at first, but I'll replace the thing ad infinitum "cause I love it so much. In my OPINION, better online, better controller, and way better exclusives. Metal Gear Solid 4 was the first game to come out on PS3 that made me glad to own one(besides the Blu-ray, that is). I used to recommend the PS3 to people 'cause I thought the hardware was so solid, but oh well.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST

    SW:FU.....How Fitting

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 3:48 a.m. CST

    The Game is mediocre but with excellent Physics Engine

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    The story is the strong point here. I endured repetitive gameplay to see what happened to the Apprentice. Spoiler Alert: Donald Trump does make an appearance...

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 4:10 a.m. CST

    XBox 360 outselling Wii and PS3 in Japan?!?

    by Stalkeye

    "Say it isn't so..it isn't soooo..say it isn't sooooauuooo.." Who would have thought that Sony's promising PS3 would be eclisped by an American Console in the land of the rising sun.Both systems have grat potentual especially the Playstation 3 but in the end it all comes down to the games.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 5:22 a.m. CST

    anyone who knows games knows Nintendo is KING

    by Maniaq

    The only reason there even IS a PS3 is because Sony and Nintendo had a disagreement on the CD (Nintendo has always been memory-based - no load times) and OK Microsoft has arrived down a very different path (they introduced DirectX into Win95 to get developers to stop writing for DOS and in the process created a DirectX-box - which became the X-box) but the true INNOVATORS have always been, still are, and always will be Nintendo... <p> They will be the ones bringing out direct neural interface tech while the competition is arguing over who's got better graphics. <p> And Donkey Kong will still be there in some form or other!

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Gavin: more thoughts...

    by mbeemer

    I'd guess that when Vader first found the young apprentice he hoped he might use him against the emperor, but eventually decided he wouldn't be able to hide him long enough to get to that point. The emperor was pretty dang strong with the Force, and knew how to play Vader like a fiddle, so Vader probably 'knew' he couldn't pull it off. So, he came to the emperor and they cooked up a plan - raise and train the boy so he could kill off the remnants of the Jedi, while leading him to believe he was being prepared to destroy the emperor[*]. When the dissatisfied factions started to become a problem, they came up with a new plan to have the apprentice recruit them into an alliance they could destroy with one fell swoop. They had to sell it as a continuation of "Vader's" original strategy, so the "confrontation" with the emperor and Vader's betrayal to demonstrate loyalty to the emperor was all play-acting on their part.<p> 1) The emperor would know that Vader would be able to resurrect the apprentice, so he wouldn't have accepted a body being thrown out into space as the end of it.<p> 2) Killing a minion is a pretty weak test of loyalty, and it wouldn't have been good enough if the emperor didn't already know he had Vader in his pocket.<b> But the drama was enough to convince a confused young man who had been conditioned NOT to think for himself...<p> [*] Both had ulterior motives. If the apprentice could take out the emperor when the time came, Vader would have been happy to watch - he just wasn't going to count on it happening. The emperor was also only too glad to have another potential protege to replace Vader with if he proved weaker than the new recruit. They were both Sith, after all.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    tattooray

    by fartedinthefaceofhollywood

    i refer to the 360 as a "shitbox" because according to the statistics and personal experiences of ALL my friends that have owned MULTIPLE 360s....it IS a "shitbox". the RROD isnt even the big issue if you ask me...EVERYONE i know that has owned a 360 has had one crap out and its been from Disc Drive Failures...im the ONLY RROD out of 9 people that i know. i DO plan on buying another 360 sooner or later, but not until the release the 45nm equippred versions that are "supposed" to keep the 360 from crapping out...and with this recent price-drop, i wont feel so bad buying a potential piece of shit. the ps3s failure rate is like 5% or less....the 360....well, that depends on WHICH issue you are referring to.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Re: price of games

    by skimn

    I may be hallucinating, but I recall paying retail price of 99 bucks when Virtua Racing came out for the Genesis...does anyone recall?

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    PS3 lifespan

    by skimn

    I do believe my local Blockbuster has a PS3 enclosed in a plastic tomb, playing demos all day. And the thing doesn't overheat, or blow up? Or sound like a buzzsaw? Amazing...

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    skimn

    by fartedinthefaceofhollywood

    YES...i DO remember that, what a complete rip-off that was (i remember renting it, NO WAY i was spending a $100 for a game). you may or may not remember THIS, remember Killer Instinct Gold for the N64...that game dropped for $79.99 and some places were selling it as high as $89.99.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    NEO-GEO

    by fartedinthefaceofhollywood

    im not sure how familiar many of you guys are with the NEO-GEO console...it wasnt very popular here in the U.S. games for it were anywhere from $200 to $400...could you imagine playing $300 for Samurai Showdown???...no???...me either

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    tattooray

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    your ps3 probably went out because it over heated - they get warm and need to breathe - but you got burned by 2 360s and still think theyre the better system? - the biggest scam microsoft ever pulled on consumers was shipping a product (360) that is destined to break down less than year after purchase - they were designed to malfunction beyond repair - i might get one if i had more assurance from microsoft that it wouldnt die inside of a year - and what truly sucks is the games for 360 are awesome (halo, mass effect, gears of war) - but the machine they run on is undependable - and the ultimate "fuck you" is that if you see the red lights you know thats it - game over - time to get a new machine

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Fart & JImmy...

    by tattooray

    Fart...that's cool, I'm just tired of all the Sony & M$oft fanboys, which you don't seem to be.Jimmy...I don't know about over heating, as all my systems are in well ventilated areas and I take great care of all my electronics. That's my big issue w/ these companies (esp. M$oft)... I shouldn't have to purchase a warranty or anything, 'cause if they fail it ain't my fault. As far as 360 being the better system, its not. It is my favorite 'cause of LIVE and all the awesome exclusives.When I got burned on my first 360, I was livid. That was before the extended RR 3 yr. warranty. I had to hassle with 'em forever before they fixed it at no cost. The 2nd time, I just ordered the repair and sent 'er off. I don't think M$oft made a flawed system on purpose. That would be stupid esp. since they ate about a billion on repair cost. I thought it was cool of 'em to fess up to their screw up $ fix all of 'em out of pocket. In short, Jimmy, go ahead and grab one, if it fails, send it in. They get it back to you promptly and extend the warranty another 3 yrs. from the time you receive it back. I wish Sony did that. When I get my PS3 back the warranty will run out in about a month. I guess I'll break down and purchase an extended one after all. Thanks for being cool, guys.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    tattooray

    by fartedinthefaceofhollywood

    hopefully thats not the case with your warranty. my ps3 got fried from a power surge and they replaced my ps3 with a BRAND NEW one (MS sends you a refurbished console as a replacement)AND they gave me a new 1 year warranty to go with my new system. hopefully you receive the same treatment, if not....id actually ASK them for a new warranty.

  • Sept. 18, 2008, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Sam witwer on tonight!

    by hairy's fat ass

    hey guys get your chance to talk to Sam Witwer live tonight. he will be on the Bigfanboy podcast tonight live. he will be covering all things Starwars, movies and anything u guys want to talk about. Link http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=10514&cmd=tc

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