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Diesel & Cohen To Return For xXxXx??
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Sony is in talks to bring back Vin Diesel and director Rob Cohen for a second Sony sequel to 2002’s “XXX.”
No word on whether the decision to drop Ice Cube (who starred in Lee Tamahori’s “XXX: State of the Union”) as the franchise’s central action hero had anything to do with the fact that Elle Fanning might be able outrun the chubby rap superstar.
If Diesel returns, that return will mirror somewhat his participation in Universal's "Fast and The Furious" franchise. He starred in the 2001 original, skipped 2003's "2 Fast 2 Furious," made a cameo in 2006's "Tokyo Drift" and stars in next summer's fourth installment, "Fast & Furious," which will reteam him with Paul Walker, Jordana Brewster and Michelle Rodriguez.
Find all of Variety’s story on the matter here.
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Oh boy those guys must need to pay the mortgage bad..
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Some turds just won't stay flushed.
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My "turd" reference was in no way aimed at you. My good friend Burt Reynolds thinks your name is hilarious.
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ooh this could be an epid disaster. They'll do this but we can't get a decent Spiderman movie? Really?
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Fast & Furious is going to do gangbusters at the box office because the first film is well regarded and there's a heavy nostalgia factor. xXx isn't a well loved movie. The Ice Cube sequel bombed because they replaced the star and because of the "Tomb Raider factor." It's a case of a film making a large amount of money even though the vast majority of those that saw it hated the film. I couldn't see a Cohen/Diesel reunion pic doing 100 million under any circumstances.
I don't know why I bothered throwing this wisdom on an AICN board filled with know nothing shutins, but what the hell... -
Diesel was in Tokyo Drift, not 2 Fast.
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hahahaha, no offense taken. My inspiration comes from Burt and that skit.
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Nobody did the fake news like him. However, I hear he is slated to be xXx in xXx 3: 3D. Can't wait.
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Have them rewrite the script every day, throw in a bunch of bald English dudes and a dicey rod puppet and call it XXX³.
Okay, forget I said that. I love ALIEN³, so fuck you all.
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For some dumb reason, I remember that in XXX2, Sam Jackson said Vin Diesel's character died...hence the replacement.
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they would do each sequel with a diffetent "XXX agent", starting with Ice Cube. If I'm remembering that correctly, they would've dropped him for part 3 anyway.
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so that a studio will accidentally greenlight Riddick 3.
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Ice Cube was badly cast, and a few scenes could have been tighter, but it was actually a better movie than the original XXX. And the special effects largely provided by ILM were very good at points. Why Vin Diesel refused to do XXX: State Of The Union, I'll never know, as it makes no sense it would have really been good for him!!! He should also do a Pacifier 2 and 3...as that was a fun family film. Why they haven't made more, considering the great box office, is yet another puzzling issue???
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Sep 15, 2008 12:10:47 AM CDT
Who the fuck cares when AVATAR is fucking our eyeballs in 2009?
by motoko kusanagi
nobody
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I also miss Norm MacDonald. Every day.
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Vin wanted to do an original "superhero" franchise. There's a debate circulating in the internet about Vin's not yet done a character from a comic book/popular TV shows/Disney fairy tales/popular book series author franchise?
Why not? He wants a career of a Mel Gibson and Harrison Ford , Bruce Willis and perhaps Clint Eastwood.... who can do it all, direct, comedy, romantic, horror, drama, animated, and action. To me, Vin has a potential to have a long career as those actors but I think he's got a potential to be like Clint Eastwood, an action actor, and director/writer. Clint has not done successfully comedy, romantic, just action but he's an even better director. I believe in my heart that Vin as an actor at heart whereas Clint is a director but who knows...Vin can do both. We haven't seen that yet....but it's going to change very soon with Hannibal.
Vin is a cross between Clint (monosyllabic, squinty glare, gruff, not so handsome, tough guy action star) and Mel Gibson (being very spiritual/religious, has similar roles and facial expression, personality, mannerism, bi-polar/ADD-like temperment, child-like, addictive personality, esp. women, God, and a smoker.) Vin is a mixture of Clint (actor/director) and Mel (personality/actor/director). But I think he's more Mel Gibson than Clint....career wise and personality, political views and religion.
Vin is iconic, smart and very successful because he's a new school version of old school. He's never done a franchise based on popular and successful franchise based on books/comics/popular tv shows.... Just original stuff like Mad Max or Dirty Harry or Die Hard with Riddick, Xander Cage and Dominic Furious Toretto.
Vin talked to his father recently and his father told him "Vin, people will never get tired of you doing action."
Vin is going all out action in the coming years and then direct HANNIBAL.
Vin is a rebel and true artist and does not seem to be wanting to follow something that's going to guarantee success. Vin's tempted to do a Marvel villian and maybe he'll give in. Even if the franchise failed...Speed Racer, Daredevil, Electra, Sahara, etc the actors are doing just fine and still on top of their game and got to do what they want. Ben is directing, Jennifer garner,and Matt Mc Counaughey seems to be going strong in their career...
Noticed that all the unknown/struggling actors are all propelled A-list or superstar status after they do a character based on these popular franchises. See what I'm talking about on the list below...
Anne Rice/Interview with Vampire: Brad Pitt
James Ellroy/LA Confidential: Russell Crowe
Romeo and Juliet: Leonardo DiCaprio
Planet of the Apes: Mark Wahlberg
Elmore Leonard/Out of Sight: George Clooney
Philip Dick/Blade Runner: Harrison Ford
The Lord of The Ring: All actors involved...
Harry Potter: Dan, Emily, Grint
Robert Corman/Conan: Arnuld Schwarzenneger
Robert Corman/Death Race 2000: Sylvester Stallone
King Kong: catapaulted Naomi Watts and Jack Black career
Mighty Joe Young: Charlize Theron
Dark Angel: Jessica Alba
Alias: Jennifer Garner
The Pirate of the Carribeans: Johnny Depp
The Men in Black: Will Smith
X-men: Hugh Jackman.
Superman: Brandon Routh
Transformer: Shia Le Beouf
Batman: Christian Bale
Iron Man: Robert Downey Jr.
Spiderman: Tobey McGuire
Dirk Pitts Adventure /Sahara: Matthew Mc Couneghey
Robert Ludlum/Jason Bourne: Matt Damon
Tom Clancy/Jack Ryan: Ben Affleck
Anything DC: See actors above
Anything Marvel: Ditto. See actors above
Anything Frank Miller: Mickey Rourke
James Bond: Daniel Craig
Now, all A-list actors involved are jumping the bandwagons ... it's all going to be up, up, uphills for these fellas. I think the movies over all is going to do non-original blockbusters.
The Green Lantern:
Luke Cage:
Wolverine:
GI Joe:
The Avenger:
The Watchmen:
The Spirit:
The A-Team:
Star Trek:
Wanted:
300:
Sin City:
Anything Frank Miller:
Anything DC: See actors above
Anything Marvel: Ditto. See actors above
Anything Robert Ludlum, etc...
James Bond:
etc....
Vin, "Stan Lee" Diesel
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for more Vin Diesel movies?
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i'm really hoping they call it Triple xXx.
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It's offically called "X: The return of Xander Cage."
No xXx. Got inside info on that. -
Pacifier 2: Suck it
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Launch another franchise in the meantime and skip that sequel due to Riddick responsibility.
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this is so awesome! xXx is the best movie ever! yes! I love the avalanche scene! awesome! vin diesel is such an action star bad boy! Actually I'm just hopped up on a red bull drink and I really really hate all things vin diesel.
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Sep 15, 2008 1:19:03 AM CDT
~~Logan's Claws like "X3" Could Be Used for XxXxXx Poster~~
by the marquis de side 3
seems to be the thing now... as if all we needed were three fingers to flip someone off... =0p
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Copyrighted [2008], bitches!
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xes are too many exes. i say 7.
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Just my opinion.
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Now that Daniel Craig's revitalized OO7 into a Bond that could kick the fuck out of ten XXX's, this vapid tripe doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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did such a good job directing the new Mummy film he already has his next gig lined up.
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Alien 3 is flawed (thanks Fox) but still brilliant.
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Sep 15, 2008 2:51:31 AM CDT
Sam Jackson only SAID Diesel's character was killed, right?
by jim jam bongs
I never saw the sequel, but Diesel's character's death was only mentioned, but not actually depicted, right? If so, then they can just say that Jackson's character lied for some reason.
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No one with even a modicum of taste will be able to answer your question.
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the original XXX is ok, but lacks any good action (for an action director Rob Cohen sure sucks at directing....action)
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IMHO was light years ahead of the first one in regards to superficial popcorn fun. If you get down to it, I felt that Vin Diesel was miscasted also. He just seemed too old to play an XGame junkie...Hell, Paul walker would've been more appropriate for that role, and he sucks. Btw, Rob Cohen is a hired hack.
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First of all, I take exception to this bullshit where Herkkkules makes fun of Ice Cube for being "chubby." He's the father of this gangsta shit, and this the muthafuckin thanks he get? xXx2 was actually a little more fun than the first one. And don't call him Dough Boy.
Second, they did say in part 2 that Xander Cage died, and in fact the DVD includes a hilariously terrible short film showing him die. He's played not by Diesel but by his stunt double, so they mostly show him from the back. If I remember right he gets blown up and it shows a chunk of skin with the xXx tattoo laying on the cement.
Also, the end of part 2 sets it up for there to be a new agent, presumably played by Bill Murray or perhaps Judi (Chronicles of Riddick) Dench.
I am actually all for them making a part 3 even though the first one sucks and the second on is mediocre. If they could follow through on the braindead ridiculousness of the opening scenes of the first one it could be alot of fun. Vin Diesel as an Amp-drinking, x-treme sportin avenger of senators who "censor video games and rap music" is a hilarious idea. It's only when the plot kicked in that it just turned into a more boring than usual James Bond movie. I can't remember if Samuel L. died or not, but they could at least bring back Xzibit as the provider of vehicles. He's kind of like Q.
Finally I know they already used the Washington DC setting but I hope with Rob Cohen returning he will fulfill his promise to have Vin Diesel ride a mountain bike up the capital dome. Because America needs to heal.
p.s. Herc I spelled your name that way as a reference to Cube's classic debut album and in no way infer that I have any solid proof that you are in the Klan. so no offense please bud -
Did you mean to type he's "the father" or "the fatter" of all this gangsta shit? Because Ice-T was the father.
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He lost all respect when started doing the "Are we there/done yet" movies. Fuck him, he aint gangsta anymore
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but let's face it, they'll go with XXXIII and leave people not knowing how to pronounce it when they're gonna buy a ticket.
And VANILLA ICE is the father.
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His OWN franchises. No more ruining others. >:(
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good point
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If you think this movie will be bad, don't go see it. I know I'm not. Also, oil has already dipped to 97.11 a barrel.
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give it an ancient greek feel
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What?
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i know Bruce and Sly tried to do it, but c'mon, man - move on.
no amount of rocket=powered skateboards can make an old guy "street".
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it just occurred to me that some asshat has probably already made "Stop or my Grandpa will shoot".
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like the previous two films? Cohen is douche anyway. Xander is too.
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Poor Vinnie Diesel, those $20 million cheques just aren't coming in, are they?
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but didn't he come out in all F&F movies? 1st one = star, 2nd = cameo of him in Mexico in the Chevelle (or was that for the DVD only?), 3rd = cameo in the parking garage in Tokoyo, and now #4.
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Call it XOXOX (kisses and hugs)
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Seriously, the guy went from the "Next Arnold" to the "Next Van Damme" in lightning speed. This guy was the next big action hero. All he needed to do was pick halfway decent projects. He decided to pick a lot of big budget, Direct to DVD quality movies.
Deisel deciding to go back to remake all the movies he did that had moderate to good business is a last act of desperation to salvage his career. I don't think it is going to work. I don't think people will care about a XXX sequel. I don't see Fast & Furious doing all that well either. The series had already played itself out. -
getting work?? Really don't understand why certain actors, directors, writers, ect in hollywood and keep failing on a colossal scale. Are certain creators just unabashed fanboys of certain actors like Vin Diesel, Nic Cage, Nicole Kidman, Eddie Murphy, ect. With Vin Diesel is it them clinging to the tired old MTV-esque shoving the biracial hiphop thing down every ones throats till they choke?? Don't really care I prefer Hong Kong Cinema anyway at this point but just wondering why. They can't really be that profitable on home video to justify B movies with 100 mil budgets.
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Sep 15, 2008 10:14:54 AM CDT
Do a sequel to Swordfish instead,as it's a vastly better film
by greenflame0
Most readers would fully concur the first XXX film was mostly total crap. Tell Joel Silver Productions to bring back John Travolta's awesome anti
James Bond character Gabriel Shear in another film, as there's so many cool things that can be
done (both story and action wise)with the character in a post 9/11 world.
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KINGS OF CRAPTACULAR
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I think he doesnt like to be typecast as just an 'action hero', and thats why his career seems to be going nowhere as it probably comes down to poor script choice on his behalf. But if he just accepted his action hero image, then maybe he could start to make some truly great action or maybe some comic hero movies.
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Like Diesel faked his death so that he can now fight the agency he was once working for or something else that doesn't really make sense when you think about it. Or something involving cloning.
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Funniest shit I have ever seen.
treble x was a comedy wasn't it?
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this so deserves the treatment only todd could give. sigh.
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Sep 15, 2008 12:04:31 PM CDT
"Remember when 'Starring Vin Diesel' was a promise, not a threat
by biggusdickus
Saw that line in 'Empire' and it cracked me up.Until we get a decent new Riddick film - one that is all Pitch Black-y and not in any way Chronicles-y - then Hollywood can keep the big gay galoot, as I'm not interested.
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I haven't seen the second one. The first was ok (slightly retarded). But a third with the 2 agents on opposite sides of the missiion would be interesting. xXx vs XxX
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Cube & T together again. Plus Bill Paxton.
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Well Schoolly D was before Ice-T. But Ice Cube had the lyric I quoted, and I would say that musically N.W.A. was way more influential than Ice-T. Also he went on a longer stretch before his albums started sucking. But you're right, Ice-T should be the new xXx.
And if you want to get technical I believe Biggie was the fatter of this gangster shit, although I wouldn't rule out Fat Joe. -
XXX sucked...baaaad, its not even fun in a stupid way and State of the Union looked just as abysmal.
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Wacky D is in the house (shakes leg)
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in XXX 2, there is a reference to Diesel's character as being dead and/or if I can recall correctly, presumed dead anyways, no bodies were found. What would be kewl would be for Diesel to become a renegade (for appearance) only in this 3rd installment. He could have found something going on with world shocking effect, and he's playing the bad guy so to speak, but really he's just trying to get close enough to screw it up. the "good guys" wouldn't know about that, so, there could be a battle of XXXs :P Anyways, having Diesel resurface and have an explanation behind it, would be nice and most of all, would fit.
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Let's do something never done before in the history of AICN and have a talkbalk where we bitch about Vin Diesel and Rob Cohen and Vin Diesel movies in general. Because it's impossible to have a movie come out that doesn't look good to us and just kindof...ignore it and not pay to go see it and just pretend it doesn't exist...
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I think Vin Diesel could have been a great action star ala arnold and bruce but he has made terrible choices in movies. I hope he can turn it around at some point, but the guy is in his 40's now, so I dunno...
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Sep 15, 2008 2:32:04 PM CDT
Ice Cube plays the same character in every movie.
by banzai rootskibango
So does Vin Diesel.
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I was just curious if its explained anywhere just how Vinny comes back after getting 'all dead and stuff' in the 2nd outing. Apparently i'm out of luck in that department. It was worth stopping by just to read the hilarious "who is the bigger gansta rap god" by two of the whitest men in history.. you cant make this stuff up. Its pure GOLD.. I can't wait to hear your review of FUBU's autumn line on BET this month during a commercial break from the "BRIAN MCKNIGHT-A-THON"... by the way, Biggie was a fat fuck too, but a hell of a rap artist.. Ice Cube ought to embrace that shit get some more of that good fried chicken into him and dose up on some fucking buttermilk pancakes. The "ICE CUBE IS FAT" commentary shouldn't offend because it in no way diminishes his title of rap's "Daddy", unless of course its a personal thing, and you're taking offence to fat comments in general, then masquerading them as a defence for ICE CUBE... whatever it is... he may be a rap god, but he sure is a porker.
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Its from his 2001 release "2001"
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how about vin diesel and rob cohen stop sucking at everything they come w/in 15ft of?
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Cohen is nothing more than a reliable hack, just like Paul W.S. Anderson and Brett Ratner. All of them are the poor man's Michael Bay! These guys always get the call to direct when a reliable hack for a scriptwriter (and I'm glad I can't remember their names...besides there is enough shame in the dick sucking they did just to get the job). I bring this all up because I'm more worried about the quality of the film than the fact that Vin Diesel is rehashing old rolls. Yeah, it's an obvious sign of desperation when everything else has gone wrong in a film career. But I think if Diesel coughs up the cash to get a top level CAA agent, he'll get the opportunity to do more A-list work instead of B-list bullshit kiddie films for Disney -- yeah, they make money but no one respects them for it.
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I like the first xXx, and I REFUSE to explain myself to you all, bitches. I like it and that's that. xXx2 wasn't for shit. Fatter, shorter, less able to act... Ice Cube can fail it all. Any props he got from his days in NWA disappeared during the ARE WE SOLD OUT YET? movies.
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Good call! Have Vin be the villain but actually be a good guy just really deep undercover. But who for the new xXx guy?
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Tipp: Me and Herkkkules are just flippin each other some shit, you're taking it too seriously bud. But give me your email I'll write you a compare and contrast essay about Ice-T's Rhyme Syndicate versus Cube's Lench Mob.
Sark: You're right, Cube was quoting the line from Dre when he used it in his song "Child Support." I should've used a different line but then Herc wouldn't have had his "fatter" line so I think it all worked out positively for humanity. thanks -
Remember when it looked like Vin DIEsal was going to become an actor? He was in 'Saving Private Ryan'. What the fuck happened?
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It would consist of 90 minutes of dull monolgues and angry sneers
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Went through Sly's entire career in only a 1/4 the time. Too bad we didn't get to see him sing in a country western. Though we did see him in a kids movie.
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Ok, let's face it, Vin Diesel is.. Vin Diesel, not so much an actor, but a genre. So, when one writes a movie, and one has Vin Diesel in mind for the part, then he writes the part for Vin Diesel. What's I'm trying to say is that Vin Diesel is not an actor, but more like a performer.
For the longest time, movies with Will Smith, Martin Lawrence, Eddie Murphy, Steven Seagal, to name a few of these so called actors, was all about these actors performing roles which were written for them first and foremost.
(Note: Got to give Will Smith some credits with Ali and Pursuit of Happyness, however).
Now, if you take Dennis Quaid, Robert Downey Jr., Anthony Hopkins, Gary Oldman, these are what I call, real actors. Why? Because when they immerse themselves in a role, you forget who they are, they are the characters they play.
So, in the end, Vin Diesel has no range, no real "acting" talent. It doesn't mean he's not able to play a good movie, it just means that he's limited to roles made for him. He can't become a role. That's pretty much it in my honest opinion. -
I laughed almost the whole way through! like the scene where he slid 500 ft on a dirt bike,then came up to a 50 ft tall fence and just bunny hopped it! classic comedy! what a piss poor script and terrible acting by everyone! sorry but an action star Vin is not!
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I woke up a few times and was like...I could've just stayed home and played SSX. Then I woke up to the cool credits. Best part of the movie hands down.
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ha ha ha. bone! ha ha. Harry is constantly on about Diesel playing Richard Corben's Den and for you to throw Bone out there... X'D
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Diesel always gives the impression of a poser. I had no problems buying Ice Cube as the antihero. Xxx1 was a total borefest.
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who lent me his FX so I could get home PDQ to catch some ZZZZ's.
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That really made me laugh.
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