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TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN Robot Thing Confirmed??
SPOILER ALERT !!
Merrick here...
The usually reliable tfw2005.com has received information regarding Devastator's purported appearance in TRANSFORMERS 2: REVENGE OF THE FALEN.
Seems he is in the film.
- Seven construction vehicles merge to form Devastator
- Devastator has lots of upper body strength, like a gorilla
- Not just green, some of the vehicles are red and yellow
...says the posting, which can be found HERE.
The site's sources also indicate that recently surfaced designs by concept artist Josh Nizzi for Long Haul (HERE) are legit.
Michael Bay commented on the design (sort of) HERE, although sees to suggests the big guy might be used in a future TRANSFORMERS film rather than REVENGE OF THE FALEN.
- Seven construction vehicles merge to form Devastator
- Devastator has lots of upper body strength, like a gorilla
- Not just green, some of the vehicles are red and yellow
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This talkback's gonna be fun!
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Sooo close!!
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...and then I'll talk shit about how I still hate the Bayformers designs.
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Where's MCMLXXVI?
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It's gotta be the size of the universe man!
Actually that's too limiting. It's gotta be big enough to infiltrate other dimensions man!
I love coffee! -
...well maybe it'll take Metroplex to beat Devastator and they're keeping THAT secret. :)
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You cannot kick Transformers in the balls.
Though they can pee on you. -
MB : "I'm afraid I don't understand the difference"
Audience : (sigh) "We know Michael. We know." -
Silver Today.....Gold Tomorrow (I can only imgine your excitement then)
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GET TO THE...BEEEELDING
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to the theater and see this. I can diss it all I want, but hey, it's giant f*cking robots
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This time last year he would have been all over this like a bad rash.
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I don't think he is with us anymore.
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Sep 11, 2008 9:39:29 AM CDT
I will see this in theatre and bitch about it all day.
by derlanghaarige
Then I see it two or three more times and bitch more about it. A few months later I will buy the 2 disc special edition DVD and bitch about it.
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...apart from the film itself. That's going to suck balls.
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I wish that were true, but Avatar is released Dec 2009. TF2 will pretty much have summer to itself, and people will go see it, and it'll be declared a hit, and Bay will allowed to continue to make movies, which sucks.
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I'm so over this robot thing. I'm more excited about The Wrestler than big fucking robots.
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I saw this yesterday, but I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Bay said he would release false information to throw everyone off the trail. If it is true, bring in the Dinobots to fight Devastator. Only then will this movie truly kick ass.
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Sep 11, 2008 10:03:37 AM CDT
Memories-Of-Murder was banned, and now is someone else...
by fuckmichaelbay
...but they would agree:FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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Didn't they call the tank Devastator in the movie, even though all the toys and everything else called him Brawl? And it obviously won't be exactly the same, since they already used the name Bonecrusher as well. Should be interesting to see what they do with it, but yes, it will probably be more ugly design.
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When and why?
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I haven't been on in a couple weeks. Anyway... I'll most likely end up seeing this just like everyone else... but I don't really care for it right now all that much.
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Sweet, the first movie needed more Devastator.
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Sep 11, 2008 10:17:49 AM CDT
Mr. Bay, There's only one robot I wanna see next summer
by ilovemichealbay
I don't care how many robots Mr Bay has in his movie, there's only one robot I wanna see next summer and thats Schwarzenegger as the the T-800!
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That is not cool.
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Love LOVE LOve love lOVe LUUUUV!!!!
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Can someone please tell the idiots behind the marketing of "poker" as a spectator "sport" that its deadly dull to watch cardboard cut-outs from the personality disorder handbook flip cards and chips onto a table for hours at a time? Even watching that decript granny-nun on the Catholic station reading her bible verses to an empty beige room gets the blood pumping harder.
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I hope this Devastator fella destroys Bay's trailer
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Anything is possible with FX nowadays, anything, anything that can be imagined can be put on a screen if you have the budget...So who gives two craps about Transformers or any other big blockbuster anymore...They are easy to make when you have hundreds of millions of dollars, what is at stake in terms of film making or risk...nothing...just brainwash the geeks into screaming 'FUCKING AWESOME' at every mundane little detail with a marketing campaign Goebbels would have been proud of and voila...Modern Hollywood. Geeks have destroyed the movies.
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I'm not sure about the subplot involving the druglords and prostitutes though. And Bumblebee swearing? I know Mickey B wants to give it an edge but...uh-uh.
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No no...No!...No!... NO! Nonono! NO!! NO!! No. Oh God! NO!!!
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Devastator in name only!!!
If Bay is involved then Devastator will be shit. I can't wait to see what classic design he rapes next. Well actually I can wait, I don't want to see what else he's ruined. -
Devastator in name only!!!
If Bay is involved then Devastator will be shit. I can't wait to see what classic design he rapes next. Well actually I can wait, I don't want to see what else he's ruined. -
Devastator in name only!!!
If Bay is involved then Devastator will be shit. I can't wait to see what classic design he rapes next. Well actually I can wait, I don't want to see what else he's ruined. -
I don't call myself a Micheal Bay fan. However, I dig his TRANSFORMERS, which raised the bar on the technique of blending CGI and practical effects. It's the absolute BEST way to do special/visual effects. And I'd be tickled pink...to see an epic SUPERMAN flick from Bay.
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Everytime it looks like it's not submitted my post when in fact it has.
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Got it. Thanks. He's a dinobot.
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shit toy commercial in name only!
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Are you on crack?! It's a movie about vehicles that turn into robots! Aesthetically the movie is better than the toys or the comic, but the very fact you care so much about such a ridiculous franchise suggests to me that I have wasted my time pointing this out to you.
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Sep 11, 2008 10:39:37 AM CDT
Devastator is another iconic robot w/no character.
by stereotypical evil archer
Devastator has very little character, it's true; but always looked cool. A perfect little giant robot for Michael Bay to play with.They shouldn't mess with the color scheme, but it sounds like they did.I like the gorilla idea, have it be a massive giant knuckle walker that just demolishes stuff, no need for lasers and rockets when it's so massive. The supposed gorilla design is brilliant; imagine a 100 foot tall mechanical gorilla! Mecha Kong! Homages, dudes, homages(if Bay knows how to homage).The only constructicon that had any character was Scrapper, a pay-loader; the rest just followed him, like a hive mind. The constructicons in the new animated show get drunk by drinking oil barrels. Yep, drunk off oil.
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What's he like?
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Sep 11, 2008 10:41:21 AM CDT
grueman, that's a question none of us can answer.
by stereotypical evil archer
Take a deep breath and the Christian Slater commercial will pass.
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THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!
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His posts have definitely disappeared but that has happened to him before. So, it's hard to say whether he actually received the Ban Hammer this time around. Funny though how FMB thinks Memories already has another name. If that's true, then where is he? It's not like he's all that hard to spot.
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some kickass flashy CGI, Shia saying "No,no,no,no,NOOO!!!", Megan Fox with bullshit "worried look" on her face, and Optimus Prime saying some pun-intended shit like "you want a piece of me" er something...totally Michael Bay-ish
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The original cartoon clearly calls for Devestator to be comprised of SIX MOTHERFUCKING ANGRY SPACE ROBOTS, not SEVEN!!! Micheal Bay is clearly not suited to bring this cherished property to the silver screen!
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Five visually incomprihensible robots combine to form one pentuply incomprihensible robot.
Fuckin loved the original transformers, and Devistator was the shit. But Michael Bay isn't. His first installment of "Tranformers.... or Gobots, or whatever" lacked character, depth, and soul, with no respect what-so-ever for the fans, or the original material.
T2 won't be any different, and I won't be going. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... -
what the hell did he possibly do???...he is VERY opinionated but he keeps it clean, seems strange
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That's not a pentuply visually incomprehensible robot. That's a septuply visually incomprehensible robot.
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who truly believe that this robot will truly remind you of Devastator? I am positive that when you see him, you will not be able to tell the difference between him and any other transformer- you might not even be able to tell that his any bigger unless you specifically see him standing next to another transformer- you certainly won't be able to tell that he is made out of several constructicons. Let me point out that Michael Bay named the tank in the first movie Devastator. This was laughable to me since I could tell that Michael Bay had no clue about how cool Transformers were, and likewise he wasn't aware of how cool Devastator was, so he didnt mind using up the name on some other crappy bayformer. Now all of a sudden someone seems to have clued him in on how cool Devastator was, and he has to reach back and convince people that the tank wasnt really named Devastator after all. The ONLY people excited about this news are people that vaguely remember who Devastor was because they never really liked him that much in the first place, or people that had to look up his name on wikipedia, and then they say "oh yeah, I remember that green transformer that was made out of a few other transformers- I think they were construction vehicles if I remember right, Yeah DEVASTATOR IS AWESOME!!! I TOTALLY LOVED THAT TRANSFORMER, HE WAS BADASSS" Please people, don't pretend to have loved transformers if you actually have to look their names up to remind you who they were- you people are the ones supporting Michael Bay. The people that hate Bayformers are the ones who know the transformers backwards and forwards because they actually loved them when they were kids and learned all about them the first time around. I hate these johnny come latelys.
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Sep 11, 2008 11:19:15 AM CDT
um, I was always able to tell the TFs and their sizes apart.
by thegreenstyle
but then I'm a hardcore fan. Samus Aran, you may be named after my favorite video game character, but I disagree. I was with Transformers in the lean years and know it backwards and forwards, and I still like the bay film and anticipate the next one.
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i guarantee you that no one besides a transformers geek will care or notice that one of the robots in this movie has the same name as one of them in the previous.
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I love it when firstards fail.
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my dead gay son!
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Then screwing them with a fun 2 hour crap fest
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See you at the convention! >mwah<
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Rickey is curious how you feel about Optimus Prime finding the key to the greatest power in the universe on eBay. Please share your thoughts with us!
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Well that is obviously true, but my point was to make fun of how michael bay just slaps NAMES on robots in his movies, and this is supposed to be sufficient to convince us that this story bears enough resemblance to toys that we really loved back in the 80s. Now he painted himself in a bit of a corner because he now has to use one of those names correctly. Since I will not be seeing Transformers 2, it doesn't matter to me. But speaking as a Transformer geek that really wanted a live action Transformers movie that had all of the appeal of the original toys, I just like to point out what a cluster$!@& this whole movie series has been. And please tell me, if you are not a transformer geek, then why in the hell are you even going to see these movies? Is it out of sheer boredom? If you didn't like robots enough to love Transformers the first time around, why do you care to see them now? Please explain this weird shit to me. Is it just that you follow whatever hype is going around at any given time?
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That's what this is. Will it be fun? Possibly. Will it be a "great" movie that is also respectful to the source? Not likely. I've learned to lower my expectations and not hold moviemakers to my standards, because they're almost never met. I've also noted that when my expectations are exceeded, it was because I had no real expectations at all, eg No Country for Old Men, in which case I'd heard very little about it except that it was getting good word of mouth.
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Or will they instead finally show the Transformers "Dropping some Scrap? I mean the fans have always wanted to see a giant Robot take a Giant dump...
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At least it says so on my passport... But it also says I was in Paris last week... But I've never BEEN to Paris... Strange.
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or more stupid breakdancing robots and stupid dialogue that no one would actually say as such events were unfolding.
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I prefer to listen to Cheap Trick.
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"...THEN went to see it in person."Wow. So, the online experience wasn't enough for you to come to your conclusions? HA! OK then.
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I am not dissin' Cheap Trick. I listen to them.
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How fucking hard is that? I'm so fucking tired of these lame-assed secondary titles, mostly because they try so hard to sound cool or snazzy or badass, but they sound fucking retarded - and only serve to remind us of other movies. There needs to be a millennium long ban on using the words "Rise" and "Revenge" and "Return" in movie titles. Fucking stop it!
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Seriously, as a child of the 80's who's mind absorbed so much of the shit thrown my way on TV and Saturday Morning Cartoons, I can say I loved Transformers, Voltron, He-Man, GIJOE, and many many other things. Do I get upset though when they adapt something that may be wrong? Sometimes. But in the case of Transformers, a cartoon, a cartoon used to sell us toys, a movie property now geared to kids to sell MORE toys, how can I be upset? It's an action movie with giant fucking robots fighting. And while the plot was thin, the action WAS there. And there was more action in Transformers than there was in the AICN critical darling Iron Man. Michael Bay may not be some prestigious Oscar Winning director, but you have to give him credit when it comes to creating a mindless Summer Spectacle.
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Actually, I think "Rise of the Fallen" refers to Michael Bay's erection in reaction to how much money he made from the first one, which he didn't even want to do to begin with.
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Honestly, that is what it boils down to. Nolan went the Shakespeare and did it pretty well, Ang Lee tried to do it and failed somewhat. Not every single property from our childhood can be given a complex story filled with pathos and drama, because it was just a toy, or a book, or a badly animated cartoon by DIC. Gotta deal with it.
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What? How the hell do you put question marks after the word "Confirmed"?Either it's confirmed or it's not. If you don't know, then guess what... it's not confirmed.
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Sep 11, 2008 1:06:27 PM CDT
HOLY FUCKING SHIT-- RICKEY FUCKING HENDERSON?!!!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
HE LIVES!
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Like a Gorilla! Let me see...hmmmm. So he's a giant, hydrolically powered robot, which means, like most giant machines, he's incredibly powerful. But not only is this machine giant and powerful, he has MASSIVE UPPER BODY STRENGTH...LIKE A GORILLA!!! That, my fellow Sat. morning cereal addicts, is all this geek needs to know. A Robot with the STRENGTH of a GIANT GORILLA! God Lord! Talk about your basic high concept. This is almost to much concept for mere mortals to digest. And please, DO NOT tell me if he has lazers shooting out his ass. That...God, I can't even imagine...the horror of it...
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snarky towards each other, I'll be happy. By far the best part of the 1st movie.
Starscream: I live to serve you, Lord Megatron...
Megatron: Where is the Cube?
Starscream: The humans have taken it!
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wow, nerd heaven. if i posted a picture of a vagina i bet it would be an epic thread and crash their server.
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I get shit for my taste in film all the time because it is so damn easy to please me. I don't want Shakespeare, I just want a film that doesn't suck giant gorilla cock. The first film did-- so I shall avoid this like the fucking plague.
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Thoughts on the Mets and the resurrection of Delgado?
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id full of shit. I did not like Transformers either. but i will still be curious to watch the next one. (i will just ask for my ticket using another movie that could use the money)
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...when that first movie was coming down the pike, I used to check the various TRANSFORMERS fansites/messageboards to see what was up. And BatRastard is right: TRANSFORMERS fans make STAR WARS geeks look sane. I don't care if you're a browncoat Whedonite who dresses up in a Leia bikini to attend your annual FARSCAPE vs. HARRY POTTER LARP themed Christmas Party. The TRANSFORMERS fans are one obsessive fucking bunch.Anyone who creates and posts a video on YouTube to show how the latest version of Starscream transforms is going through a serious reality crisis.
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I'm serious. I will never EVER sit through the next Transformers film. I might watch 10 minutes of it late at night on T.V. when I'm hung over-- but thats about it.
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...are some the best & craziest this site has ever had.
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bet on it.
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If so, it will blow like a category 5 hurricane. Or, if you prefer, it will suck like everything else they've written.
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I bet the air craft carrier robot is designed to go up against devastator..Why the heck would they pay someone to design a robot for a movie that isnt being made yet? They have a plenty of work on a TF movie being made now. MB is just trying to throw people off w/ his t3 comment on "longhaul"..devastator is in this movie for certain.
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I am really happy to see that Devastator is getting back into the flow of things. It has been a rough few years, what with the transvestite hooker and the cocaine addiction troubles. I hope Michael Bay keeps him in this movie so he can rebound, much like Iron Man did for Robert Downey Jr.
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Is Robin, played by a mister Zachary Efron. <3
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Oh yes, Rickey lives. Rickey derides AICN's banhammer of ultimate nullification! If anything could coax Rickey to post again, you'd goddamn well better believe it would be a Transformers talkback. Rickey eagerly awaits more of these in the coming months, if only for the opportunity to mock the self righteous mother goose talkbackers who pop up in them to inform the rest of us poor ignorant fools how a movie featuring giant space robots should be made.
Pillow: Delgado is a man-god. The fucking ubermensch. Rickey said, make every year a contract year for this guy. That having been said, he shouldn't be brought back for 2009. -
Is it me, or do those links prove absolutely nothing about what this "news" is supposed to suggest?
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Sep 11, 2008 2:34:55 PM CDT
Question: Does Devastator Have Union Representation?
by rickey henderson
Let's say the backhoe is falls under the category of Laborers Local 123, but the dump truck is represented by Operating Engineers Local 649. Wouldn't there be a problem with these two machines combining to form one massive robot? Wouldn't arbitration be necessary? Should there be a collective bargaining session before the separate machines merged? Bay's clearly going about this all wrong. Devastator should be a giant inflatable rat.
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knowing him, 3 year contract!I was at last Friday's game (aarrrgghh!!), and will be at next Friday's game too.Tomorrow is the Yanks (hah-hah!)...free tix.
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Bay has a problem of over-loading his movies with shit, making them 30 or 40 minutes too long. example, Bad Boys II...sucked because he turned a buddy cop movie into a 2 and a half hour mess when a simple hour and a half would have sufficed (which is why Bad Boys 1 was enjoyable, short and sweet), then theres Pearl Harbor...okay....if ya wanna make "Titanic at war" then fuck off...the battle itself was 40 minutes...so whats left...2 whole fucking hours of lovey dovey two friends bangin the same hoe SHIT...completely unnecessary, then theres Transformers...they could have shortened that movie up as in, trim the damn fat...cut the bruises out of the banana...you may have less banana...but at least your not eating a shitty banana, i would have been fine with Transformers had they nixed the dumb shit...as in...pissing robots, chihuahuas with broken legs, a 20 minute dumb as hell scene of giant fucking robots hiding in someones back-fucking-yard (that part irritated me the most), i could do without robots from space using modern human language ("my bad"...WTF???), and scenes involving pointless characters that do nothing but kill screen-time (those damn hackers). Michael Bay movies are just bloated bloated bloated, what could be fun little action films turns to overly drawn out drivel with no soul what so ever.
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im not a BIG Transformers fan, i grew up watching the cartoon and all (as most 80's kids did) but it was never an obscession. what pissed me of greatly, was the total lack of screen-time for the Decepticons...in the sense of them communicating with each other and planning this and that (loved the bickering between Megatron and Starscream in the cartoon...and Starscreams schemes to take over as leader). i could have done without that 20 minute scene i mentioned earlier of the robots hiding in a backyard...that was perfectly good time that could have been used for something...i dont know...interesting???
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its sad....but i wouldve rather had Roland Emmerich do the Transformers movie...and even that is pretty low.
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They were hiding, exactly. It's all about "robots in disguise"...and getting peed on by a dog. I wish Devastor would wreck havoc on this franchise and end it already.
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I never saw the first and won't see this one either. There's plenty of non-Bayfest bullshit out there to enjoy. I don't need to sit through this crapola.
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couldnt they have busted the block er something???...i know seeing a caravan of cars (including a Big Rig truck) drive around in a neighborhood is weird....but not nearly as weird as spotting 4 GIANT fucking robots "attempting" to hide in a backyard...everyone in his neighborhood must be 90 years old or BLIND as fucking bats.
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(and be sure to boo Jeter for Rickey).
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...when the CGI shitfest begins.
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I don't get a shout out? After all that time spent hijacking threads with sports talk that you, me and pillow did. I'm hurt man.Okay, I'm over it. How ya been?
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ORCI: I'm thinking would could have a conversation between Megatron and Starscream where they discuss how the Earth is loaded with vast amounts of natural resources. Megatron gets all pumped-up as Starscream relays all the newfound possibilities. Then as Megatron declares his intention to bleed the Earth dry, we cut to a scheming look on Starscream's face.KURTZMAN: Oooo, I like the sound of that. Maybe we can juxtapose it with a shot of the Autobots reminiscing on how fertile and robust their now burned-out homeworld used to be.ORCI: Great idea. Keep working on that.BAY: Guys, there is no way I can possibly hold a camera still for that long. Besides, it will take ILM forever to animate the big fucking robot's faces for that stuff. I need you to come up with something else that I can plug in between 'splosions. What else ya got?ORCI: Ummm...KURTZMAN: Well, we got this throwaway scene where Bumblebee pees on Turturro...BAY: Bang on! I'm sold. The kids will eat that stuff up. AWESOME WRITERS! AWESOME SCENE!*click*BOOOMMM!!!
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Hey Finky and Abom, long time no see.
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Call me crazy, but the first Transformers movie was the only Michael Bay movie I actually enjoyed. A lot of the story was blah... but I thought the FX work on the robots was well done - even the flames on Optimus.
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I don't think anyone out here is asking for Transformers to be anywhere in the realm of Shakespeare. If anyone is wanting Shakespeare, it's that cockgobbler Michael Bay. "I had to make it about a boy and his first car, and how that totally changes his life, because that's something I - and I think everyone - can totally relate to." Fuck that! Transformers is supposed to be about giant, badass robots just trashing the hell out of Earth while blasting and beating the fuck out of each other. The worst part about the cartoon was the fucking humans. Take the humans completely out of the equation and focus on the robots and I'll be happy.
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in my opinion the CGI is brilliant in Transformers, seeing all the moving parts and all the exquisite attention to detail IS a jaw dropping and quite the technical achievement...but it amounts to nothing but "spectacle" and not at all an impressive film, which seeing movies for the spectacle they are is understandable...its still irritating as fuck to have to watch the in between shit thats NOT AT ALL interesting in its execution.
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duuuude....people that bitch about THAT stupid shit....pft *jerking off motion*
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are we going to get an explanation why Barricade disappeared at the end of the first movie?
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What? Did she suddenly come out of retirement? And why the hell is she associating with Transformers? Hey MIA, I saw you at the Gorge. You were amazing!
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HI!! How are you....thanks for the input on the uhhh thing...you know....
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Sep 11, 2008 3:57:25 PM CDT
Bay is now the name for "Summer Blockbuster" more than...
by iammrmonkey!
..Spielberg. If you see an advert for something by Michael Bay then you know:(1) Summer has arrived (2) you can see lots of things getting shot/blown up/totally fucking destroy(3) You'll love the soundtrack (if you're 15 that is)
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...if Soundwave were up your ass you'd know where he was!Sorry, I just like saying that.
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...the Limbo of the Wrongfully Banned. Where in the world are you these days? It has been a while for me. But, as they say, the TF talkbacks bring us out of the woodwork. Looks like things haven't changed much around here though. But it wouldn't be right if they did.
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the shit. the sheer spectacle. As for now,i hope to be enjoying the new Coen Bros flick this weekend.
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i dig the occasional spectacle as well and Transformers isnt the biggest "throw away" movie ever....its just the most expensive and uninspired.
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He was a cool concept, but as a character, he was lumbering, big, dumb, and ineffectual. I am interested in seeing a character composed of different colored components, a la Voltron. The green and purple never did anything for me. (Hmm, was that supposed to reference Hulk?)
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curious...how does one go about getting banned from here???...i mean, what the HELL did you guys do
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But it was just a tank. I just read something about them changing the name to Brawl for the dvd, so I'll have to check on that. But I remember it in the theater. It's subtitled and says something like "Devastator mobilizing"
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He could soooooooooooooooo go away and not be missed.
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Sep 11, 2008 4:46:47 PM CDT
M-O-M was a victim of the August Scriptgirl Massacre...
by fuckmichaelbay
...wherever you are...whoever you are, know that MNG is waiting to call you on the carpet for something asinine.
FUCK MICHAEL BAY! -
Stick around long enough and you'll see it. Sometimes it happens to incessant trolls (Braffed!). Be sure to check out the next "RIP" post for a celebrity. They always bring out some of the most racist and opinionated folks (for some reason), which devolves into a fight among two or more TBers, one or both of which are often banned for wasting the bandwidth. Most of the bannings are deserved, but occasionally the "powers that be" wrongfully associate some TBers that get in middle of the frays for being part of the problem. And once you're gone, you're gone. You can easily create a new profile, but getting your old one back 99.9% of the time falls on deaf ears. Of course the other easy way to get banned is hijack an thread, particularly a long dead one, and stir up 1,000 posts in one day. Harold & the Gang don't like TBers hijacking bandwidth from their other, more Bayfriendly stories.
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... that is all.
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that Engrish-speaking twit has been a source of occassional amusement with his idiotic "opinions" on things, but mostly he's just a douche who pretends to know how to speak English and has miserably poor taste in, well, everything.
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but no, one main voice to satisfy the "fans" was enough for Bay and the studio. I'd rather have Chris Latta outakes from old TF episodes melded into the movie than some "celebrity" actor voicing Starscream or anyone else. Then again, I ain't wasting money on this film, so who cares...
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How is that possible?! He was posting long after that debacle. Methinks you've got wrongful information.
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A little less of a mess than the ones from the last movie.
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I mean tires are Too Big! Skarekroe's got a point though. At least you can find the face on this design.
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Sep 11, 2008 5:33:11 PM CDT
SORRY! M-O-M was killed by telemarketer in early Sept...
by fuckmichaelbay
...that was the "wife" he was referring to.
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many people loved the movie for those first few months now hate it. I can't more then 15 minutes on cable and the action give me head aches.
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10 characters
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Sep 11, 2008 6:18:40 PM CDT
"Devastator has lots of upper body strength, like a gorilla"
by laserpants
Or, you know, like a GIANT FUCKING ROBOT.
My prediction for TF2 -- its dumb as a bag of hammers, subtle as a bag of dead dead babies, and shot "for the edit" whilst snorting through several hundred pounds of uncut blow bringing us a movie that is 70% awful, 25% really fucking cool to look at and 5% making me wish someone would take this technology and make an AWESOME Giant Robot movie like EVANGELION, GUNDAM, MACROSS, or GURREN LAGAAN (aka the new best Giant Robot Anime EVAR).
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Predicting epic Avatar trailer to be shown in front of Transformers 2.
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Take a joke asshat...Christ. Daddy get your lip caught in his zipper when mommy came home unexpectedly today?
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I like James Cameron alot. Aliens, T1&T2, Abyss and even Titanic were great. Does he always hit home runs? No, so why pass out all the kneepads?
Avatar is just as likely to fizzle as Strange Days did at this point and I haven't seen anything compelling to think that it won't.
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But why?
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I think Bay thought he was directing Gobots the movie. Bay should stick to the got milk commericals. That was the best directing he has done to date.
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I don't think Avatar is going to come out in 2009. James Cameron is worst then Blizzard Entertainment when it comes to meeting a projected release date. TF2 is going to be Dark Knight big. I won't beat the Dark Night, but it's going to get over 500 million domestically.
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What's up you crazy bastard?Well, it does indeed look like Mammaries is gone. And if it was the ol' Ban Hammer, then I have little doubt he was running his mouth about how people's taste in films are "shit" and how anyone who disagrees with him is offering "bullshit apologetics" and "Bayformers" this and "shit hack Bay" that.And I don't know what FMB is smoking but I'm pretty sure M-O-M had nothing to do with ScriptGirl or telemarketer.
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...is weed. I think we established that already.MOM is gone, what does it matter to you how? Just rejoice like I know you want to and be done with it. It's a happy day!
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...I previously said I smoke great weed, and then you took me to task for the quality of my herb and said I've probably never smoked in my life.Cough, cough...'ere dude.
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If you say so!
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I did, Quotemaster General.
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When and where did this "great weed" conversation take place? I don't recall ever discussing that with you. If you had told me directly that you smoke weed, my response probably would have been nothing more than, "Shocker."
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I'm sure that in addition to your acerbic wit and penchant for using quotes to dismantle people, you also possess a photorealistic memory that allows you to remember everything about everyone from anytime.I bet you're thinking about googling yourself to see if it actually happened just to prove me wrong.Have a blast, my friend!
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That's so funny because for some reason, they do. That's why they're called "fanboys."
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TBs, it brings out the fucking morons that like this shit.
Seriously, get neutered(not that any of you retards are having sex anyway) and out of my gene pool. -
And how high are you right now?!Well, since I knew you were wrong to begin with, I'll tell you what I think just happened - YOU Googled yourself to see if you got me mixed up with someone else. Does that sound about right?
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Answer #1: Very!Answer #2: Umm...no, that's not right at all.FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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...I'd like to come visit you.OBAMA in 2008!CHANGE IS GOOD!
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...to his more annoying Clark Kent. Whenever MNG's in trouble...you'll be there!
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No, he ain't You-Know-Who4Prez. That was Jeff Albertson; a much smarter individual. FMB is clown shoes.
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although he did expertly fuck the fans in the first film giving them moments of what he hoped to pacify them while keeping it real to studio budget by focusing on humans for less CGI. I must say to see the film what Transformers fans want it would cost a gagillion dollars. I guess we should be thankful we get anything at all that resembles what most of us (like me) in my late twenties remeber as G1! It could be as bad as the Dragonball movie. Cheer up!!!!!!
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Just when I thought you couldn't be more of a tool. Time for your meds Mr. Gauis.
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Sep 11, 2008 9:35:55 PM CDT
MNG is a tapered high-waist dress w/ sweetheart neckline!
by fuckmichaelbay
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You wish that was true.
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...already used the name Devastator in the first one for the character Brawl against Hasbro's wishes.
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Mmmm...french fries!
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That's what it needs.. or some Australian robots dancing to Weird Al. On second thought...
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I rode in a car with two lesbians yesterday. And that was way better than the Transformers movie.
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Transofrming robots with that cool transforming sound and Megan fox bending over things.
And a bottle of JD, coke and ice or if I am feeling classy, some 18 year old Oban and a cuban. -
I want everything to be Shakespeare. And as a paying customer, it's my right to have expectations. If i'm going to be sitting still waiting to be entertained for 2 hours (2 1/2 in TF's case), I want to be goddamn stimulated. Explosions, explosions, explosions, hacking and bad baxploitation do not cut it. Megan Fox was pretty though.
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I got to see it at the Paramount lot screening with a producer I Was working with. I stand by every goddamn word...
Hey guys, BadMrWonka here. got to see an early showing of Transformers here in LA tonight, and I thought I'd weigh in. hopefully you can use it. I am going to reference a lot of things from the movie, but I'll try to be vague so as to not spoil too much...
First off, since this is such a divisive movie, I should let you know briefly where I stood before seeing the movie. Although I'm the prime age range, I never really got into Transformers as a kid. I saw the cartoons, and I remember having a couple toys, but it sort of passed on by without leaving too much of a lasting impression. So I hold no glorious standards for the source material. If that differs from your take on it, hopefully you'll take that into account when reading my review. On the other hand, I really don't care for Michael Bay that much. I don't hate his films, I just don't like them very much. I don't like the fact that I can see little cliched moments that are virtually identical in every one of his movies, I don't like that he seems like a dick in real life, I don't like his little beard. But I also don't expect his movies to be anything other than what they are. I just hope they're not quite as bad as the one before. I don't think Micheal Bay has ever ruined a movie...he simply chooses projects, or develops them, or has them developed for him, that are innately unsalvageable as "real" films. (Tell me how Bad Boys, as a concept, could have been an Oscar contender...) Well, maybe Pearl Harbor could have been good...
So anyway, on with the show. I got no intro whatsoever for the film, no one said a word. Which isn't surprising since it's obviously finished by now. The first action sequence is amazing, the sound is incredible. After a few cliched characters giving a few cliched lines in the midst of cliched moments, it begins in earnest, and knocks the wind out of you. Then we get onto Shia's story, and it's actually good! The jokes are funny, the car buying sequence is hilarious...everything is actually WORKING! There's a Judd Apatow reference?!?! Are you kidding me? Transformers? good? Even VERY good?
Then it all kind of goes to shit. The inevitable diarrhea you were expecting from eating a Michael Bay-rrito starts to rumble in your stomach. The glimpse of a well-made movie that could have been, falls by the wayside as we get into the "plot" of the film. The traditional Bay stereotypes are all there, saying all the same crapola you've heard them say a million times. There's the hot girl with obscene amounts of knowledge on a specific topic, and yes it comes in handy. There's the black stereotype, yelling at the top of his lungs, because that's what black stereotypes do. There's the military guy who just wants to see his wife and kid. There's BadMrWonka burying the hopes he had in the first 20 minutes.
As the movie plods along, it can't seem to decide whether to take itself seriously or not. There are a host of in-jokes, from references to the old series, to actual references to other Michael Bay movies. I am NOT joking. It's truly cringe-worthy. But the worst part is how awkward the explication is. When Megatron gives the all important "this is what the hell's going on" speech, it's the same as the audience got in the opening intro before the title. So we're sitting there going, "yeah, we got it, are you going to DO something?" And then they fart around in Shia's yard for 20 minutes. A house being accidentally destroyed was funny in Harry and the Hendersons. Here, it goes on WAY too long.
The rest of the movie is a huge fight scene, wrapped around a couple twists in the plot that are so silly, I half expected a new character to be named "Deus ex machina" (perhaps in the sequel?). There are HUGE gaping plot holes, and things that make no sense plot-wise. And here's a tip, if you have robots that can't really emote in their faces, and you want to have a touching moment, and Michael Bay is directing, and Steve Jablonsky is doing the music? Just go ahead and shoot yourself. Cause it ain't happening.
It seems, when the Transformers are first arriving to earth, that they simply choose the first car/truck they see, and change into that. and when Bumblebee is made fun of by Shia's girl for being a junky old car, he transforms into a snazzy new version. so it seems they can change into anything at will. so then why does it matter if, say, your legs get cut off? make new ones! why not be a different car, if someone is chasing you and knows what you look like?
The worst part is they do what I REALLY hate about this big movies, they SHOVE them full of smaller characters, introduce them, give them a little personality trait and a little thing to do, and then we NEVER get any resolution to their story. Only Shia and his chick and one other character get ANY kind of resolution.
So, what you really want to know:
The fights: they are pretty cool, but there is SO much going on, and SO quick a pace, and the camera is SO shaky and in need of Ritalin, it's hard to make out what is happening a lot of the time. And then, after 10 minutes of flying pixels and explosions, and one-liners, there will be a long, EXTREMELY slow shot with a Transformer doing some maneuvre over a pedestrian as the "camera" pans just right to catch it all. Isn't there anything in between the frenetic, what the fuck did I just see, type of shots, and the "ok, I get it, you spent a lot on this film's FX" shots? christ.
The acting: Shia, again, ESPECIALLY in the first 20 minutes, is gold with the funny lines. he's really good, honestly. I would seriously challenge anyone to say otherwise. when he has to be tough, well, he's not really tough. But neither is his character. Other than that, he just runs a lot. When he has to deliver the funny, it's not bad. Overall, I doubt any young actor could have done any better, and a lot could have done worse. He is in NO WAY the problem with this movie.
John Turturro seems like he's drunk. Literally, I mean that I think he may have been drunk while filming some of the scenes. But it works, and he has some funny lines and bits. It feels like one of those things where he said, "yeah I'll do it, but only if I get to be quirky". better than being a Bay cliche, I guess. Everyone else hams it up. The girls are hot, and uninteresting. Voight is wrinkly. Duhamel is not really acting, just yelling military jargon and shooting. Except for delivering the dumbest line of the movie to Shia. The entire theater actually groaned and chuckled in what was supposed to be a serious moment. Then he does the most unthinkably ridiculous and implausible (yes, even for a movie with giant fighting robots) stunt I can recall seeing in a movie in a long time. And he goes a little crazy for a second. And then he goes back to his jargon immediately. fucking retarded.
The source material: it felt, to me, like they tried to make up for the fact that all the Transformers look completely different from their 80's counterparts, by making them talk and act EXACTLY like their 80's counterparts. Which, to me, seemed silly. But people I was with, who read comics and had more affinity for the original series, said the dialogue rang true. I just thought it was silly. To me, the old cartoons saying these completely unrealistic lines was fine. When you have this new, sleek, fast machine, saying things that are, at best, cheesy. It sounds ultra-cheesy.
is it a boy and his car? well yes and no, but if you're afraid that's all it is, don't worry. plenty of robot on robot fighting...well...blurring past the digitally created camera at super speeds, to be exact. Shia's relationship with Bumblebee is actually fairly decently done, and it didn't feel like it was too much. The house/garden scene was, though.
Overall, I think Spielberg directed the first 20 minutes, stuck his name on, and never looked back. I simply do not see him in this movie after the beginning. It's all Bay all day every day. And they stole a line exchange from From Dusk til Dawn. fuck that.
If you are predisposed to like this movie, you will find plenty to like, and a little to bemoan. If you are predisposed to hate it, you'll find plenty to hate, but I gaurantee you'll laugh a few times in the beginning and get your ass kicked by the first fight scene. And Scott Farkus is in it.
If you're in the middle, well, it will depend on how patient you are with Bay. Did you see Bad Boys, Armaggedon, The Rock and Pearl Harbor? Ever want to see them again, but with gigantic robots from space? Transformers is playing at your local theater.
BadMrWonka
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TRANSFORMERS WAS SHIT!I just saved you a 1000 words.You're welcome.
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it's over 1500, but whatever...a better summation would be: it makes no sense, it's retarded, there is little to like at all, only mindless people will enjoy this.
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FALLEN?
or
Jimmy Fallon?
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A movie about a bunch of giant cats running around. You guys talk about it and James Cameron with such blind obedience that you sound like Republicans at the 2004 Republican convention. The movie is basically a sci-fi retelling of THE WIZARD OF OZ. This guy goes to another world where there's giant "cat people". I bet Cameron uses a very sysmetric style with the 3-d tenchnology in the beginning. Then when the guy goes to "cat world" the technology will be more abstract. Geeks will think its a masterpiece because it has special effects and it "says something" (abeit, something that we have all figured out for ourselves in grade school ...or the first time we watched THE WIZARD OF OZ). Moriarty will praise it as some sort of revelation that will change movies and make all the women and little children of the world join hands in a moment of peace. And we'll all die a little inside. 300 million for a 3-d cat people movie. Jesus.
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Giant Fucking Robots 2 = TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION!!!
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Perfect review.
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I'd like to know what movie you are excited about seeing in the future?
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Fucking result. Where's the fireworks?
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aww, what's wrong, did he insult your masturbatory, slavish worship of james cameron?
tsk, tsk.
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this one or THE ROAD? I am trying to decide which one to see. thanks
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...MAN-CATS!!!
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We may not see him too soon after all, thank God. Someone mentioned something about AICN banning becoming more difficult to circumvent recently.
Hope springs eternal. -
...without Lion-O.I'm a HUGE Cameron fan, but it does appear that AVATAR is kinda stealing thunder from any potential THUNDERCATS theatrical movie.
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James Cameron made it. It's pretty simple.
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Transformers was just an average popcorn movie. Transformers 2 will be the same. Everyone that is hating on the first one will be first in line to see the second.
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Without a moment's hesitation, THE ROAD. (But you know that's a loaded question anyway.)
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I really wish you would fuck off, you miserable twelve year old stuck up cunt.
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The rallying call has not been forgotten! Let's hope Big Jimmy C. can bring the cinematic goodness.
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Stealing the thunder from Thundercats? are you nuts? and wouldn't they just be CATS without the thunder?
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Sep 12, 2008 11:01:17 AM CDT
thehoebo -- uhhhhhh whoa. Transfomers fan, eh?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Ok. I got nothing to say to you.....honestly. Wow.
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the guy met, swapped stories with, and went to the home of Al Leong. Yes, Carpenter's Al Leong. Leong who was Bill & Ted's Ghengis Khan. Besides, Judd Apatow likes his handle.
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I have been coming to this site for 10 + years but rarely post. I just have some questions...
Was Skorpinok (sp) a Gov. created creature borrowed by the decepticons. I swear I saw a US Gov symbol or "Propery of Army". Is it mentioned in the movie. I do not recall. Also, since he basically lived (minus tail) I wonder if they will touch up on that in the sequel and the Mountain Dew machine..Did it survive? I know...stupid questions but I wonder? Also....I wonder if the title "rise of the fallen" doesn't only refer to Megatron but maybe the rest of the decepticons...returning in different forms (i.e. contruction vehicles to create Devistator)? And when they state Devistator would have other colors such as yellow and red...makes you wonder what else they are using to create Devistator...GM cars with CAT (Caterpillar) equipment? Just curious. Thanks! -
...would be nothing but pussycats. Suggesting otherwise is what would be nutty and I do not believe that is what Cameron has in mind.And it would also be nuts to deny the similarities between AVATAR's Man-Cats and the the THUNDERCATS, especially if you have heard about the description of AVATAR's Man-Cats.As I have said, I'm a major Cameron fan and AVATAR should be a wild-ride, but let's be real here.
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You have an incredible memory.
But really...I just don't get the attack from this douche-bag thehoebo. I attack people all the time-- and I make sure to smear a handful of wad in their face when I'm done with them.....but there are a ton of other TB'ers on here slamming the shit out of the atrocity that is Transformers, and this nipple decides to hone in on me just to make a name for himself. Well fuck you pal!! Until you've gargled a mason jar full of my urine, you shall never EVER walk in my shoes! -
It took Rickey nearly 24 hours, but good to see you too, friend of friends.
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....at least urine is sterile, now hop to it
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I agree to with most of what you're saying, but Peter Cullen was never "washed up". He purposely quit doing "violent action cartoons" (he still wants nothing to do with Voltron) because of his own beliefs and has worked steadily doing Disney stuff and movie trailers. He also says he never got one fan letter during the '80s for Transformers, so I can't really blame him for walking away from it.(That being said, there was really no way for kids to know who played Optimus back then; the actors names were all splashed on one title card for literally about one second without accrediting for who played whom.
Don Murphy claimed _he_ was the one pushing to get Cullen for part 1. I don't know which one to belive. -
Yeah, that was his only line in Transformers: The Movie. The good one from the 80's.
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I knew that the idiot "bIg fUkkin robOts" crowd would eventually turn on Bayformers. I call the phenomena "Phantom Menace Syndrome". Remember all the idiot apologists that were saying it was the "best Star Wars ever"? Don't hear that one anymore.
I just wish people would learn. Don't believe Murphy and Bay's lies about how "this one will be better" or "we promise more Transformers, less people this time". People, you're going to get the same old crap as the last time. (It will probably be worse than the first, sequels usually are.) Accept that fact, the fact that Murphy and Bay don't give a damn if you liked the movie or not and will say anything to get you to pay. -
Lynda Carter on Sarah Palin, Philadelphia Magazine:
Don’t get me started. She’s the anti-Wonder Woman. She’s judgmental and dictatorial, telling people how they’ve got to live their lives. And a superior religious self-righteousness … that’s just not what Wonder Woman is about. Hillary Clinton is a lot more like Wonder Woman than Mrs. Palin. She did it all, didn’t she?
No one has the right to dictate, particularly in this country, to force your own personal views upon the populace — religious views. I think that is suppressive, oppressive, and anti-American. We are the loyal opposition. That’s the whole point of this country: freedom of speech, personal rights, personal freedom. Nor would Wonder Woman be the person to tell people how to live their lives. Worry about your own life! Worry about your own family! Don’t be telling me what I want to do with mine.
I like John McCain. But this woman — it’s anathema to me what she stands for. I think America should be very afraid. Very afraid. Separation of church and state is the one thing the creators of the Constitution did agree on — that it wasn’t to be a religious government. People should feel free to speak their minds about religion but not dictate it or put it into law.
What I don’t understand, honestly, is how anyone can even begin to say they know the mind of God. Who do they think they are? I think that’s ridiculous. I know what God is in my life. Now I am sure that she’s not all just that. But it’s enough to me. It’s enough for me to have a visceral reaction. And it makes me mad.
People need to speak up. Doesn’t mean that I’m godless. Doesn’t mean that I am a murderer. What I hate is this demonization of everybody but one position. You’re un-American because you’re against the war. It’s such bullshit. Fear. It’s really such a finite way of thinking about God to think that your measley little mind can know the mind of God. It’s a very little God that way. I think that God’s bigger. I don’t presume to know his mind. Or her mind.
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a guy switching sides in an occupational war and going on the cat-people's side. And having "cat-like" aliens may sound stupid, but I'm willing to bet that James Cameron will make it look amazing.
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Damn you Michael Bay!
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Shia was a limp member in the first Transformers movie. Much prefer the cartoon where it was just the Autobots, Decpticons, & Dinobots... loved the redneck dinobot.
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I know they wher all pretty much retarded. THe ony Transformers that sounded like rednecks was Ironhide, Powerglide, and Cosmos.
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Devastator was the bad-assiest robot in the original cartoon.
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That's a total fucking insult, honestly.
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Transforms was dumb the only thing that was better is Shai LeB--- is funnier then Jar-jar other then that TPM was edited and shot a hell of alot better then TF and the Scene with Darth Maul,Kenobi, and Qui Gon Jinn is better then any scene in Transformers And I Hate The Phatom Menace with a passion of a million suns.
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I am in a fetal position humming "Dare" by Stan Bush.
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