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Schwarzenegger SALVATION??
Merrick here...
It's easy to get lost in the bewildering maze of rumors regarding whether or not Arnold will appear in TERMINATOR SALVATION. And, until we get either an official denial...or see for ourselves...the following should be treated as educated speculation at best.
The last I heard, a Schwarzenegger associate named Roland Kickinger had been hired to fill Arnold's T-800 role for a sequence in the film (HERE). This was back in mid-July.
The report over at Latino Review now says this is correct...but only to a degree. One of LR's sources is telling them that Kickinger will, essentially, do the grunt work as the T-800 - but Arnold's face will be digitally mapped over Roland's, and dialogue snippets from Arnold will be incorporated via ADR. As supporting evidence, LR's source sent in a picture purporting to show the on-set meeting of Schwarzenegger and Christian Bale.
You can read more, and find said image...
HERE!!!
This facial replacement technique has been in play for some time now. The first time I recall hearing about it was for the shot where the girl falls from the air duct (with the raptors snapping below) in JURASSIC PARK (i.e. stunt woman with the child's face dropped in). It may've been used before that, though. Not sure.
So...rampant misinformation? Wishful thinking and nice Photoshopping? Or, have the pieces of the puzzle finally fallen into place? Discuss below...
HERE!!!
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I don't care how he's in it, just get Arnold in it!
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...your average on-set meeting to us.
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in the Running Man!
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Politics is boring.
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Sep 10, 2008 2:54:41 PM CDT
So does this film fit in with the Sarah Conner TV show
by klytus_i.m_bored
Are these discrete takes on the Terminator universe or are they related?
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Look at the ass on that girl in the Arnie/Christian Bale photo. Day-um.
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No the tv show is a different time line this takes place after t3. The tv show jumped over t3.
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This reminds me of something I'd see on TMZ. Oh wait..I did see this on TMZ!! These candid photos are the most annoying things in the world...next to politicians.
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was the first to do this when Brandon Lee died to my knowledge, but for all i know it came out at the same as JP.
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Poor Brando...brought him back "digitally " for Nothing!
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Used this technique.
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This will bea piece of cake
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That is all.
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The best scene from Terminator 3 was the one they cut, where they showed the guy the Terminator design was based on, and it was Arnie with a goofy voice. He should talk like that all the time in Terminator Salvation. "Hey! I'm gonna go baack in tiiime and saaave yer mom!"
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to can the Governator's...
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/cnn-reports-palin-bikini-photo-but-fails-to-tell-viewers-its-a-fake/
Maybe Sarah Palin should fill Arnie's shoes?
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Hope it looks good. Too bad because I think the older Arnie's face is more attractive than the younger one. Which I had become accustomed too. And Im mostly talking about it teeth. Can this actually look good in the end? I hope so. And we are hearing good things from the cast and director. It would have more buzz if not FOR the director McGriddle.
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... that created the cyborgs "in his own image" but is now a beaten slave to the machines, older and haggard.
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I've already seen Christian Bale in a post-apocalyptic world with that dragon movie that ran out of budget to show more than five dragons.And Summer Glau and Shirley Manson as a you-know-what is a lot more interesting.
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To know he is he too old to play a super-buff robot from the future.
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wow acting is getting easy
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supposedly the scene where he puts on the makeup for the first time was filmed after lee had been killed.supposedly. looks good for 199?.
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Arnold would be playing the terminator were it not for the whole having the state of California to govern thing. If you think hes too old or not is besides the point I would bet Arnold doesn't think that!
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Right but he is still too old to play the character. Did you see T3? Put him in that film next to the Arnie from the first film - doesn't hold up. Clearly CG is the only way he can play this character. I'm just musing about how it might feel to have spent your life making your career from your body and then being *possibly* offered a role that would point to the fact that you're too old to do it without considerable effects work.
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Did you see that thing? That's the price you pay for success.
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And that was...you know...real.
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years back...? Didn't that need a TON of replacement work?
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We need Arnold, not to legitimize it, but to separate it as much as possible from the abysmal Sarah Conner Chronicles. How dare they dumb her down.
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I mean dead on Exactly like 25ish to 30ish Arnold so why go to all the trouble??? Just use his deeper voice. They should be doing this with Shatner in the Trek movie though for fucking sure
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Sep 10, 2008 3:34:19 PM CDT
~~~Guess this solves Heath Ledger problem w/ Batman 3~~~
by the marquis de side 3
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http://tinyurl.com/ywh249... Crazy!
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i am just saying
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That's where this pic was taken. T4 is filming in New Mexico. Arnold doesn't even look or sound like he used to.
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j/k ;)
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The "Blue Crush" replacement of Kate Bosworth riding the waves was horrid! Horrid! She was like that water tentacle thing in "The Abyss", with her face jutting out of her head.
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talked over lunch!
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Sep 10, 2008 3:41:02 PM CDT
why don't they use a headcast from t2 and make prosthetics
by ironic_name
for roe-land
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"The Sarah Connor Chronicles". I just don't like when they replace actors for roles.
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Sep 10, 2008 3:42:29 PM CDT
"We have to get out of hee-ah! Go Now-ah! Do it!"
by the winged doucheman
Aiiirghhhrrrah!
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And sell us Direct TV?
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You know he wants to run up and hug Arnold and say, "Daddy!"
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google it, its a robot with a rubber face.
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more skin replacement.
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I'M IN duh moohfie!
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Well, my body does.
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of a cyborg age? Arnie can be an old Terminator. :D
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"Ice see you!"
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I never saw the movie, but I assumed there was a lot of work.
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'nuff said.
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I like a good Ahnold impression. Even in text.
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I'm really curious to see what David Fincher has developed for Benjamin Button..I hear it is cool.
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Will, could...Notch Johnson also make an appearence?
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It's real - here's the vid of Arnie and Bale.
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He is.
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And we should be.
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I'M HEE-AH KILL ME! I'M HEE-AH KILL ME KEEL ME NA-OWWW! NA-OWWW!
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Why wouldn't he show up at the set, especially if its in Callyfooornya? My guess is someone saw him there and put 2 and 2 together. While I hope that it's true, there is nothing really to go on here.
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true
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He's old and flabby
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Sep 10, 2008 4:55:41 PM CDT
Kickinger - that was the Arnold dude in Son of the Beach, right?
by thenorthlander
Perfect choice if you ask me. But why don't they just let him play the role as he is? He can do a pretty solid Arnie - face, voice and body.
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That just made my day.:) And those commercials suck!
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Considah dis a duhvaws from any intruhst in dis moovee.
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i just started watching it, and its actually pretty fucking good. it really treats the terminator universe with respect. WAY better than terminator 3, and they actually come up with a clever way to keep sarah connor alive (which also gives them new story lines.)i know i sound like a plant or a commercial, but if you're vaguely interested in what the show is all about, id say do yourself a favor and watch it. in fact, im so into the show i would say that the movie should use the actors from the show more than the previous movies. its better for current continuity anyway.
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I hope it's true.
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you guys were talking about is awesome. it's really campy, but its still good.
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Sgt. Candy!!! They explain the voice too.
gfy -
Considadisadevoaaaarce!
Sorry, I will bring the wrath of the TB'ers down on me but unfortunately Arnie sucks!Most of his movies would be improved beyond all recognition if the digitied Rutger Hauer into them.Total Recall? Great film with a great role that required some genuine acting chops to sell the ambiguity!Conan - the characters is a cunning intelligent warrior!Terminator - the whole idea of the T-800's is to blend in so they design a giant wardrobe that can barely speak English!End of Days - Jesus wept - 'YOAH THINK YOAH BAD? COMPAIHED TO ME YOUAH A BOUYSCOAAAT! A BOUYSCOAAAAT!' -
Christopher Lee's face was superimposed on a stuntman for much of Dooku's screen time.
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digitally mapped over my dick. I'm that rich!
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Everything else = cash in. Why watch two great films getting their reputation trashed? Save your money for Avatar.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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And he still managed to be digitally added to Gladiator. Seriously though, how can you have Terminator movie without Arnold?
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still rules...case close /thread. I loved all of his movies except for the ones where he thought he could be a comedian. And Raw Deal , that sucked.
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Same digital face mapping technique to be used
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Shadows and dust Maximus!!!!
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you gotta add 'end of days' to the dislike pile.
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Arnie needed to be in this in some capcity. He needs to get back into movies full stop.
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JING-AH ALL DE VEY!
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T4 is already shaping up to be good and just this extra effort on McG and the crew's part just shows the enthusiasm this movie has got going for it... that's only if this is true, but once again this rumor is just icing.
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Loved them all, even a few of the comedic ones. Twins? Not bad. Kindergarten Cop? Also good. Compare that to something like Vin's 'The Pacifist.' UGH.
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Sgt. Candy will be the Chris Tucker to John Connor's Jackie Chan, letting Scwarzenegger age into the role. John Connor will be killed by a T-800, thinking that the T-800 was resistence sergent/buddy cop Sgt. Candy making up after they have a melodramatic falling out in Act II, which had forced them to go their separate ways until Act III. Candy, after hearing about the ambush on Connor, will make up another Terminator in John's likeness, this time programming it with sense of humor. Hilarity resumes!
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JUST LIKE IN THE RUNNING MAN!!!!!!
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And it seems that for Arnold he doesn't have to do anything but without him there wouldn't have been a franchise here to begin with. And he's still busy being governor anyway so he can't be expected to do much really.
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Cause, seriously, look at that pic at the site and the chick in the middle, she has a nice ass. Got some bounce n' jiggle to it. Someone CGI that chick's ass into the flick, please. I'll buy two tickets.
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Digitize likenesses of Bruce Lee, Elvis, and John Wayne also.
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because the machines have no creativity, so they have to get their designs from somewhere. I know about the Sgt. Candy thing but that's gay and just a DVD extra, so I figure its not canon. It would be cool if Schwarzenegger and Patrick were prisoners and made cameos, or had small parts, or at least their faces did. This digital face technology has so many cool possibilities.
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On Countdown, pretty cool. Was wondering if the man made black hole had swallowed up the world yet, he hasn't had a chance to check "Aint It Cool News" for the update.. Nice
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and i don't remember a Freeze cameo
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Digital face replacement has been around for a while. It was uses quite often in LOTR particularly noticeable after Gandalf's "death" whe nBoromir picks up Frodo -who was actually a midget - then they just CG'd Elijah Wood's face on screaming/crying and I think they did a bloody good job of the Digital Doubles in that film as well. The tech is there they just need the right team of creative people to do it and a pedantic director to oversee it
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Or at least that's what his lawyers said. And he was acquitted, so....
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Solo project of the lead singer of As I Lay Dying. Every single song is about Arnold Schwarzenegger. Standout tracks include "Get to the Choppa" "I'm A Cybernetic Organism, Living Tissue Over (Metal) Endoskelleton", "If It Bleeds, We Can Kill It", "It's Not A Tumour" and "Screw You (Benny)". Seriously, go listen. NOW!
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OK, this is essentially a new beginning of the Terminator series, but whenever anyone says 'Terminator' they think of Arnold. His presence in Salvation would be the icing on the cake. Does McG have the balls to pull this off?
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And that's precisely why I think it's authentic.
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will be playing the Riddler in the next Batman movie that starts filming in ten minutes. It's so blatantly obvious. Why else would it be that specific shade of green? It's like you guys have never been on the internets before.
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Needs to have their tiny brain squeezed in a fucking vice. Fuck you.
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Go watch The Terminator and compare him to the Arnold of today. Even the creepy voice is gone.
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...like building a particle collider or something. You can easily do this on your home computer....
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And I believe it is... then all we need to do is get Nolan to face map heath Ledger's face onto a stunt double. There you go bat-fans! Problem solved!
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I almost wonder about if this is a good idea or not. When it was reported that they might just use a new face I was enthusiastic, because by tieing the face of the T-800 to Arnold you can ONLY draw comparisons to the original two movies. Its the same reason I think that the Sarah Connor Chronicals works aswell as it does- it provides its own twist on the concept. Essentially it comes down to the basic idea that if The Terminator always looks the same, then why don't the other characters tie to eachother in looks? Christian Bale is not Nick Stahl, and Nick Stahl is not Edward Furlong...
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With Jon Nolan's involvement, this is looking strong.
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It's been well established that the T-800 isn't produced until the war is almost over.
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...in the TV movie about Arnold running for Governor. He looks enough like a younger Arnold that with dark sunglasses and spikey hair he could pass for the original T-800 in quick shots. Just because Schwarzenegger had lunch with Bale doesn't mean that Arnold's in the movie.
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alien transmitter. It should take about 5 years for those little fuckers to reach Earth from whatever bug-planet they're listening from. Right around 2012. Get your manual labor faces on, people of Earth.
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The general mannerisms/expressions of the people around arnie dont seem right. Plus I dont think bale would speak to arnie with his arms folded like that
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www.tmz.com/ tmz_main_video?titleid=1780578437just remove the space after the slash
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....The Arnold Fans had the video up yesterday,been on the net a couple of days.
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nuff said
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than Arnold 2008 does. It makes more sense to simply use Kickinger as is. No offense to Arnold.
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I just had to say it.
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GET OUT OF HE-AH!
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I'm going to ponch you in da stomach!
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I hope this is true. McG you've got Schwarzenegger now get Brad Fiedel!!!
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The man is going to surprise the world. Do YOU believe? I sure do!
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I'm he-ah McG, kill me!
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Because what are you going to do about ALL OF THE OTHER ASPECTS OF A PERFORMANCE? The way an actor, moves, his mannerisms, his speech, etc. This thing with Arnie might work because he would most likely record the lines himself instead of Chip Rommel, plus the performance is robotic so it ought not to be too hard to duplicate. That said, I don't know what I think about this rumor. That T3 deleted scene was pure velveeta, like Verhoeven without the satiric bite.
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isn't that Cameron out of the TV series? if you can have a proper look without wanking, let me know what you think.
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who cares about The Flabbinator? I was staring at the ass of the chick in the blue jeans. Now, THAT might get me into T-4:Return of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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I'd do a "diplomatic mission diorama" with her. Yeah!
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I'd like to give her my 12-inch Snake-Eyes. yeah!
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I'd Jones her Young Indiana figure. yeah!
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I'd scale her stormtrooper in 1:6. Yeah!
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I'd like to be On her Bubble. Yeah!
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Her aragorn probably has a legendary scale bust. Yeah!
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I'd like to show her my Alien 12-inch real action hero!
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I'd like to show her a Fist of Legend. Yeah!
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An ass liek that can be a gir's Own Worst Enemy. yeah! (huh?)
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An ass like that is NO Dragon Dynasty. Yeah!
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That Jet Li movie, The One, used this technique as well, since the there were two of him from alternate futures or something. I remember seeing a "making of" featurette which showcased one of the stunt martial arts coordinators or something wearing a green-screen mask type fixture.
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I'd love to see him in a sasquatch movie! I don't care what political party he pretends he's in.
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With today's CGI this can totally be done realistically. You can't have a Terminator movie without Ahnold!
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"Chick in the blue jeans" < "Chick in white T/black leggings combo". That is all.
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