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Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles 2.1 FAQ

What’s it called?
“Samson and Delilah.”

Who's responsible?
Teleplay is credited to series mastermind Josh Friedman (2005's "War of the Worlds").

What does Fox say?
“Rocked by the Jeep explosion, John's 16th birthday forces him to confront the reality of his destiny alone. Meanwhile, Agent Ellison faces off with his faith and the Feds in the aftermath of Cromartie's massacre, and a new player is introduced, Catherine Weaver (Manson), who is the CEO of a high-tech corporation. Cast: Lena Headey, Thomas Dekker, Summer Glau, Brian Austin Green, Richard T. Jones, Garret Dillahunt, and Shirley Manson. Guest Cast: Dean Winters as Charley Dixon; Sandra Purpuro as Agent Norgaard; Marcus Chait as Justin Tuck; James Urbaniak as Sarkissian; Shane Edelman as Matt Murch; Carlos Sanz as Minister; Robert Guenveur Smith as Sac Federici; Noemi Amarilla as TV Filed Reporter; and Max Perlich as Walsh.”

The big news?
The Connors find themselves confronted by a mechanism from the future they’ve not been menaced by before.

Last season ended with Cameron caught in an explosion. What’s doing with the Connors’ cyborg protector?
Cameron is so damaged she is of little use to the Connors in this installment.

What else is Fox not telling us?
Weaver’s company wants the Turk chess computer many believe will evolve into the murderous, robot-dispatching SkyNet.

How is your beloved Shirley Manson in her acting debut?
Tall, beautiful, dialing back the Scottish accent (mistake!) and slightly less charismatic without the rest of Garbage standing behind her.

What’s this business about Ellison’s faith?
Ellison doesn’t know why he was spared in the first season finale. The bureau puts him on six weeks' paid leave.

What’s doing with Sarah’s ex-fiance Charley Dixon and John’s uncle Derek Reese?
They largely stick to the sidelines for the bulk of this week’s installment. For reasons unclear to me, neither Sarah nor John ring them up for assistance when things go from bad to worse.

What’s good?
This is the best episode of “Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles” since the series’ two-hour pilot. Any fan of the series should love it, and anyone iffy on the series is not likely to be bored. The best scene this week (possibly the best scene in the series so far) involves what’s left of Cameron and two large trucks; Summer Glau sells it hard and sells it well. Catherine Weaver’s introduction is highly memorable. Garrett Dillahunt, now a regular, remains gratifyingly creepy.

What’s not so good?
The Connors in the TV show remain about 90 IQ points stupider than the Connors in the movies. The TV Sarah is a serial blunderer, and her vehicular blunders this week make the terminators' job much too easy. In order to get the writers out of a corner they’ve written themselves into, John does something no human being with a half a brain would. Something the movie Sarah would never let him do. The TV Connors need to smarten the fuck up, and fast, before they squander all the good will banked by the far better movies that spawned this series. Also? It’s still unclear why a terminator would ask Sarah to call to John when we all know terminators can impersonate human voices flawlessly.

How does it end, spoiler-boy?
With a scene, designed to set the online “Sarah Connor” fanbase afire, evoking a memorable sequence from that other ‘80s cyborg masterpiece, the original “RoboCop.”

8 p.m. Monday. Fox.

This is the noise that keeps me awake.











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PUSH IT!
by Loosejerk
Sep 8th, 2008
12:14:08 AM
Calling John
by vadakinX
Sep 8th, 2008
12:17:08 AM
#1 Crush
by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl
Sep 8th, 2008
12:23:12 AM
Herc, please answer me this?
by the_knightfall
Sep 8th, 2008
12:45:32 AM
Well, actually episode 6 was quite good.
by Shan
Sep 8th, 2008
12:48:41 AM
OK, that was spooky.
by Shan
Sep 8th, 2008
12:50:12 AM
I actually have a screener of this episode
by Eternal Watcher
Sep 8th, 2008
12:53:03 AM
So looking forward to this
by Aloy
Sep 8th, 2008
12:58:08 AM
"they've" not "they're" - you did it twice
by Iron-kong
Sep 8th, 2008
01:05:34 AM
is it just me
by Iron-kong
Sep 8th, 2008
01:06:34 AM
kinda hard to imagine Manson without a scots accent
by newc0253
Sep 8th, 2008
01:17:18 AM
"The best episode since the pilot?"
by newc0253
Sep 8th, 2008
01:24:29 AM
Other than cheese curds and brats
by Kurutteru Yatsu
Sep 8th, 2008
01:37:45 AM
Oh yeah, and James Urbaniak? WTF?
by Kurutteru Yatsu
Sep 8th, 2008
01:39:38 AM
The second half of season one
by TequilaMocking
Sep 8th, 2008
01:47:31 AM
any more 90210 cameos?
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Sep 8th, 2008
02:38:41 AM
Strong in areas, weak in areas
by ides
Sep 8th, 2008
02:42:47 AM
I'm with TequilaMocking
by Reelheed
Sep 8th, 2008
02:46:45 AM
Shirley Manson: She Who Must Be Obeyed
by Sans Souci
Sep 8th, 2008
02:59:45 AM
D'oh!
by Sans Souci
Sep 8th, 2008
03:09:18 AM
I remember when she was cool
by ironic_name
Sep 8th, 2008
03:36:19 AM
I remember when she was cool
by ironic_name
Sep 8th, 2008
03:36:21 AM
The two hour pilot was shit
by photoboy
Sep 8th, 2008
04:52:22 AM
Shirley enjoys watersports...
by Karl Childers
Sep 8th, 2008
06:03:33 AM
I would be willing to participate in water sports
by Itchy
Sep 8th, 2008
06:07:43 AM
If you like Garbage...
by lord_zedd
Sep 8th, 2008
06:44:19 AM
Speaking of Sci-fi...
by emeraldboy
Sep 8th, 2008
06:50:58 AM
When I heard Stupid Girl like in 1995
by I Dunno
Sep 8th, 2008
06:58:38 AM
Robocop vs Terminator
by TheJake
Sep 8th, 2008
07:17:42 AM
Terminator/Prison Break/24 Crossover
by EvilWizardGlick
Sep 8th, 2008
07:23:45 AM
Robocop wins in a T shootout.
by EvilWizardGlick
Sep 8th, 2008
07:24:38 AM
Terminators can't shoot for shit.
by EvilWizardGlick
Sep 8th, 2008
07:26:28 AM
Re: I Dunno
by Kizeesh
Sep 8th, 2008
07:52:57 AM
HELP: Saw this on Friday. Did he rape Sarah in front of John??
by Russman
Sep 8th, 2008
08:01:23 AM
Afterglow
by turketron
Sep 8th, 2008
08:06:49 AM
yeah dexter 301 is out.. but it's not that good.
by V'Shael
Sep 8th, 2008
08:27:43 AM
If you like Garbage...then you'll love Sarah Connor Chronicles
by nytivofan
Sep 8th, 2008
09:08:34 AM
Shirley enjoys watersports?!?!?!
by redfist
Sep 8th, 2008
09:23:08 AM
calling John theory
by Bouncy X
Sep 8th, 2008
09:33:17 AM
T1000 Question
by codymr
Sep 8th, 2008
09:41:10 AM
Can
by SpyGuy
Sep 8th, 2008
09:46:59 AM
Can't wait for the return of the Glauminator
by SpyGuy
Sep 8th, 2008
09:50:04 AM
Gotcha Bitches...
by Bill Brasky
Sep 8th, 2008
10:27:25 AM
*spoiler* Am I too nitpicky? *spoiler*
by digitalcos
Sep 8th, 2008
10:35:52 AM
"Call to John. I know this hurts"
by greyspecter
Sep 8th, 2008
10:45:10 AM
Terminator sex
by turketron
Sep 8th, 2008
12:02:28 PM
About continuity, nytivofan...
by Raymar
Sep 8th, 2008
12:18:58 PM
Urbaniak is the Man
by Aquatarkusman
Sep 8th, 2008
12:34:43 PM
delaying judgment day
by JLohnny
Sep 8th, 2008
12:40:43 PM
I know she references Golden Showers
by hst666
Sep 8th, 2008
12:59:03 PM
Weaver? As in Sigourney? Nice...
by NivekJ
Sep 8th, 2008
01:01:07 PM
Re: Terminator/Prison Break/24 Crossover
by Raymar
Sep 8th, 2008
01:26:33 PM
Shirley
by Karl Childers
Sep 8th, 2008
01:32:46 PM
Shirley's watersports comment....
by Karl Childers
Sep 8th, 2008
01:33:26 PM
ths show is good
by Judge Briggs
Sep 8th, 2008
01:35:09 PM
RE: Urbaniak IS the man!
by halsolo
Sep 8th, 2008
01:37:45 PM
"Call To John."
by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon
Sep 8th, 2008
02:29:57 PM
I don't watch this show. Terminator ended for me at the end of T
by DOGSOUP
Sep 8th, 2008
02:46:31 PM
Blood from her veins ...
by DennisMM
Sep 8th, 2008
03:20:08 PM
Thanks for info about song in tonight's episode
by Eternal Watcher
Sep 8th, 2008
03:36:11 PM
Samson and Delilah
by Sans Souci
Sep 8th, 2008
06:20:11 PM
This show is a perfect example
by DarthJedi
Sep 8th, 2008
06:32:04 PM
I Have To Admit...
by Aquatarkusman
Sep 8th, 2008
07:09:01 PM
That's quite a
by Melvin_Pelvis
Sep 8th, 2008
07:16:31 PM
Can't wait for this....
by SlickyVonBoner
Sep 8th, 2008
07:17:31 PM
first 15 minutes sucked
by Rupee88
Sep 8th, 2008
07:30:23 PM
Ruven76...
by TheRealMoriarty
Sep 8th, 2008
07:34:27 PM
Obaminator: The Sarah Palin Chronicles
by Stalkeye
Sep 8th, 2008
07:37:31 PM
Then watch Rachel Maddow try to change the future on MSNBC
by BrandLoyalist
Sep 8th, 2008
07:38:27 PM
Calling John...
by MrD
Sep 8th, 2008
07:39:05 PM
Manson is tall?
by fiester
Sep 8th, 2008
07:57:21 PM
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
by kyle051554
Sep 8th, 2008
07:58:33 PM
Sorry, Lorna
by Aquatarkusman
Sep 8th, 2008
07:59:53 PM
Someone tell me what happened
by erichaislar
Sep 8th, 2008
08:00:27 PM
oh my god what a piece of shit episode
by Rupee88
Sep 8th, 2008
08:07:28 PM
Holy FUCK. There's a T-1000 in play?
by SpyGuy
Sep 8th, 2008
08:09:02 PM
kyle051554
by Rupee88
Sep 8th, 2008
08:10:36 PM
Robocop?
by seanny_d
Sep 8th, 2008
08:10:48 PM
Stfu...this was a good opener
by Alientoast
Sep 8th, 2008
08:11:38 PM
"You Forgot To Flush!"
by attackpatterndelta
Sep 8th, 2008
08:11:49 PM
TheJake
by Rupee88
Sep 8th, 2008
08:12:29 PM
Way LAMES
by NivekJ
Sep 8th, 2008
08:16:33 PM
Decent ep with some nice moments
by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl
Sep 8th, 2008
08:16:52 PM
I Enjoyed It... Good Episode For Me...
by BojTrek
Sep 8th, 2008
08:19:13 PM
Holy crap!
by REDD
Sep 8th, 2008
08:19:55 PM
Er...
by REDD
Sep 8th, 2008
08:20:16 PM
one thing kind of stupid to me...
by MoseSchrute
Sep 8th, 2008
08:24:36 PM
one thing kind of stupid to me...
by MoseSchrute
Sep 8th, 2008
08:25:15 PM
Re: Rupee88
by kyle051554
Sep 8th, 2008
08:27:13 PM
"I cleaned her chip really good with this rag.
by Mose Schrute
Sep 8th, 2008
08:27:23 PM
Herc, you're on crack
by jdb1972
Sep 8th, 2008
08:36:50 PM
Ya think Skynet would use more T-1000s
by Raymar
Sep 8th, 2008
08:44:12 PM
This show is for retards.
by splungiest
Sep 8th, 2008
09:03:08 PM
Yeah...
by attackpatterndelta
Sep 8th, 2008
09:06:07 PM
Awesome Fucking Episode
by fedrich519
Sep 8th, 2008
09:12:55 PM
I wish...
by jebuslovesyou666
Sep 8th, 2008
09:14:25 PM
HAHAHA HAHA HA
by turketron
Sep 8th, 2008
09:17:45 PM
Many people in this talkback are stupid, and it's depressing.
by NinjaRap
Sep 8th, 2008
09:22:38 PM
"Hi, I'm Sarah Connor!"
by darthuser
Sep 8th, 2008
09:22:50 PM
I agree with NinjaRap
by whoanecron
Sep 8th, 2008
09:32:12 PM
When the stationary 400-lb Terminator Girl
by mcgowanleg
Sep 8th, 2008
09:50:57 PM
I want to see it again
by Melvin_Pelvis
Sep 8th, 2008
09:55:27 PM
"Hi, I'm Sarah Connor!"
by Lisa Bent
Sep 8th, 2008
09:59:05 PM
aaaaand more
by NinjaRap
Sep 8th, 2008
10:08:18 PM
John wasn't thinking straight
by arby64
Sep 8th, 2008
10:10:19 PM
I'll say it again....
by Cheif Brody
Sep 8th, 2008
10:18:22 PM
Why was it called Garbage?
by quadrupletree
Sep 8th, 2008
10:20:28 PM
The complaints...
by seanny_d
Sep 8th, 2008
10:23:59 PM
I think NinjaRap writes for the show
by mach5jack
Sep 8th, 2008
10:30:25 PM
Sigh
by CloseLight
Sep 8th, 2008
10:58:00 PM
You guys realize...
by Voice O. Reason
Sep 8th, 2008
11:01:46 PM
I Don't Care...
by TheRealMoriarty
Sep 8th, 2008
11:10:11 PM
Cheif Brody
by StaticSyndromeXX
Sep 8th, 2008
11:10:12 PM
I liked the episode but....
by TVguy4566
Sep 8th, 2008
11:10:38 PM
I'll Rate the Episode if Herc Won't
by Aquatarkusman
Sep 8th, 2008
11:10:40 PM
Cheif Brody
by Toonol
Sep 8th, 2008
11:14:35 PM
Would have worked much better...
by jdb1972
Sep 8th, 2008
11:17:56 PM
So, he left Heroes because the character
by jimbojones123
Sep 8th, 2008
11:23:53 PM
Here's what people should be complaining about
by NinjaRap
Sep 8th, 2008
11:25:46 PM
GOOD EPISODE! EVIL CAMERON=HOT!
by Earthquake WestCoast
Sep 8th, 2008
11:26:58 PM
WHOANECRON
by Earthquake WestCoast
Sep 8th, 2008
11:31:14 PM
jdb1972
by Hercules
Sep 8th, 2008
11:31:23 PM
Was the magic rag John used
by jimbojones123
Sep 8th, 2008
11:33:07 PM
JOHN WASN'T STUPID FOR SAVING CAMERON
by Earthquake WestCoast
Sep 8th, 2008
11:35:56 PM
Still better than it deserves to be
by Anakin Whoopass
Sep 8th, 2008
11:48:51 PM
The new opening narration...
by catlettuce4
Sep 8th, 2008
11:52:54 PM
The harsh truth is that this show....
by The Eskimo
Sep 9th, 2008
12:24:33 AM
The harsh truth is that this show....
by The Eskimo
Sep 9th, 2008
12:25:41 AM
Why not go back further and kill baby sarah...
by digitalcos
Sep 9th, 2008
12:45:03 AM
Ashok0
by codymr
Sep 9th, 2008
12:52:47 AM
Stalkeye
by codymr
Sep 9th, 2008
12:54:24 AM
Rrrrr...
by codymr
Sep 9th, 2008
12:55:36 AM
It's Amazing...
by codymr
Sep 9th, 2008
01:00:24 AM
Many of you are missing the point about John.
by digitalcos
Sep 9th, 2008
01:12:36 AM
The harsh truth about this show is...
by LordEnigma
Sep 9th, 2008
01:14:29 AM
"Call to John"
by Chief Joseph
Sep 9th, 2008
01:31:07 AM
And another thing...
by digitalcos
Sep 9th, 2008
01:37:20 AM
seanny_d, Robocop reference (and then my thoughts on episode)
by Dreamwriter
Sep 9th, 2008
01:46:47 AM
haha...enjoying this Talkback
by Rupee88
Sep 9th, 2008
02:20:20 AM
Really, Rupee88?
by Toonol
Sep 9th, 2008
02:36:58 AM
Toonol
by Rupee88
Sep 9th, 2008
02:50:16 AM
I hate the "spoon fed" arguement
by David Cloverfield
Sep 9th, 2008
03:18:37 AM
Records destroyed during the war
by bellwether
Sep 9th, 2008
04:46:10 AM
If you want to try to enjoy TV again guys, feel free, ...shit.
by champvinyl
Sep 9th, 2008
05:30:32 AM
champvinyl
by champvinyl
Sep 9th, 2008
05:32:16 AM
Avatar of Skynet
by Alientoast
Sep 9th, 2008
06:16:19 AM
Major death coming?
by Dazzler69
Sep 9th, 2008
06:58:12 AM
chamvinyl
by champvinyl
Sep 9th, 2008
07:13:48 AM
"If a machine can learn the value of human life..."
by seanny_d
Sep 9th, 2008
08:08:01 AM
Robocop VS Terminator
by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon
Sep 9th, 2008
08:22:00 AM
My Take...
by MurderMostFowl
Sep 9th, 2008
09:03:37 AM
Shirley Manson =Toni Halliday rip-off
by BackStJoe
Sep 9th, 2008
09:10:58 AM
LAME.
by HoboCode
Sep 9th, 2008
09:37:38 AM
It wasn't the rag
by Melvin_Pelvis
Sep 9th, 2008
10:12:17 AM
Hobocode... where are you getting love story?
by MurderMostFowl
Sep 9th, 2008
10:39:03 AM
Not Great, But I Liked It
by _Maltheus_
Sep 9th, 2008
10:44:52 AM
Enough on the Calling John stuff
by MurderMostFowl
Sep 9th, 2008
10:49:25 AM
MurderMostFowl
by HoboCode
Sep 9th, 2008
10:51:44 AM
To Bill Brasky!
by nyj_et
Sep 9th, 2008
10:54:17 AM
Cleaning the chip
by arby64
Sep 9th, 2008
10:54:32 AM
Terminator SCC has "cleaned the chip."
by HoboCode
Sep 9th, 2008
11:27:39 AM
Of course you can fix the chip by cleaning it off
by punto
Sep 9th, 2008
11:29:30 AM
Look for a Young Lena Headey in "Remains of the Day"
by Aquatarkusman
Sep 9th, 2008
11:31:19 AM
Liked last year better
by matineer
Sep 9th, 2008
11:40:14 AM
It's going to get cancelled
by Volllllume3
Sep 9th, 2008
12:04:45 PM
Hobocode, you're right
by MurderMostFowl
Sep 9th, 2008
12:53:39 PM
HERC
by LarryTate
Sep 9th, 2008
01:04:52 PM
John is learning to trust his future self
by MattmanReturns
Sep 9th, 2008
01:48:24 PM
I like the idea
by LarryTate
Sep 9th, 2008
01:55:25 PM
LarryTate
by Hercules
Sep 9th, 2008
01:56:05 PM
A little
by LarryTate
Sep 9th, 2008
02:21:46 PM
LarryTate
by HoboCode
Sep 9th, 2008
02:30:32 PM
HoboCode
by LarryTate
Sep 9th, 2008
02:47:01 PM
Not bad, must try harder though.
by DarthScotland
Sep 9th, 2008
03:21:31 PM
More thoughts on Cameron = Skynet
by Alientoast
Sep 9th, 2008
03:29:22 PM
Theories
by Alientoast
Sep 9th, 2008
03:31:22 PM
Liquid Metal Garbage!!
by Oldnewbie
Sep 9th, 2008
05:32:04 PM
Why Skynet can never retro-abort Sarah Connor
by Anakin Whoopass
Sep 9th, 2008
07:55:20 PM
My thoughts on the haha continuity haha
by Mockingbuddha
Sep 9th, 2008
08:11:03 PM
Stop whining, guys.
by Chief Joseph
Sep 9th, 2008
08:44:32 PM
HoboCode
by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl
Sep 9th, 2008
10:18:16 PM
Too much Connor family stupidity.
by kabong
Sep 9th, 2008
10:37:01 PM
Yeah but what happened in the bedroom????
by Russman
Sep 9th, 2008
11:02:31 PM
Wait...was Sarah raped?
by Dreadlock Holmes
Sep 9th, 2008
11:11:08 PM
emerald boy
by slkboxrman
Sep 9th, 2008
11:53:02 PM
anakin
by slkboxrman
Sep 10th, 2008
12:02:47 AM
the urinal
by slkboxrman
Sep 10th, 2008
12:06:46 AM
Awesome.
by SlickyVonBoner
Sep 10th, 2008
01:09:01 AM
Cromartie
by SlickyVonBoner
Sep 10th, 2008
01:39:42 AM
Resurrecting Cameron idea
by Alphi1
Sep 10th, 2008
06:31:32 AM
terminate this show
by joe90025
Sep 10th, 2008
09:11:46 AM
Ok, look...
by digitalcos
Sep 10th, 2008
10:36:25 AM
Giving her the gun
by Melvin_Pelvis
Sep 10th, 2008
11:15:17 AM
I'm going to assume John's gun was unloaded
by drewlicious
Sep 10th, 2008
11:45:32 AM
drewlicious
by LarryTate
Sep 10th, 2008
12:17:50 PM
truely fucking awful
by Mr_X
Sep 10th, 2008
01:59:29 PM
Cameron express shock when she woke up
by drewlicious
Sep 10th, 2008
02:11:53 PM
Do you guys know ANYTHING about guns?
by RokurGepta
Sep 10th, 2008
04:46:38 PM
mattman
by slkboxrman
Sep 10th, 2008
06:41:37 PM
Such a STUPID show...I don't know why I watch..
by IAmJack'sUserID
Sep 10th, 2008
09:04:14 PM
I like this show but John is too dumb
by aversiontherapy2
Sep 10th, 2008
11:32:39 PM

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