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That GHOSTBUSTERS Rumor Which Wasn't True, Then Was True, Then Wasn't True (Or Something Like That) May Now Be "True" Again!!

Published at: Sept. 4, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

Merrick here...
The development of new GHOSTBUSTERS material has been somewhat confusing. There's a margin for error in my recap, but the upshot goes something like this: In no particular order... ** At one point, Dan Ackroyd was said to be developing what was identified as "GHOSTBUSTERS 3" with much of the original cast. This turned out to be a forthcoming video game written by Ackroyd and Harold Ramis, with most of the original cast returning except for the ever enigmatic Rick Moranis. ** There was talk that Ackroyd had written a live-action GHOSTBUSTERS 3 which was ginormous in scale and budgetarrily challenged. This was reconsidered, and downsized to... ** A project featuring the Ghostbusters in an existential interpretation of Hell (i.e. "hell" is actually what we make of our real lives, and would be symbolized on the streets of New York City and what not). It was hoped Ben Stiller might join this iteration (more details HERE). This film was called, simply, GHOSTBUSTERS IN HELL. ** More recently, Ackroyd purportedly indicated he might work out some sort of GHOSTBUSTERS CGI project (HERE). This seemed to be built around his HELL conceit. And here's where it gets funky: ** Then came word that other writers were working away on a new GHOSTBUSTERS project. Some reports indicated this was intended to reunite the original cast, who would hand off their business to a bevy of fresh players . Most reports identified the writers as Seth Rogen and Judd Apatow - although Rogen squashed the reports as recently as last month (HERE). Seems Ackroyd has either not heard about the Rogen/Apatow denial, or grander things are actually quietly afoot. A few days ago, Dan spoke with E! (HERE) and had this to say about a potential GHOSTBUSTERS theatrical project:

Told ya it was confusing, and I'm not sure how any of these details reconcile. I'm not even sure this means anything at all, although it certainly seems...odd. The conspiracy theorist in me feels that some level of talks may be afoot regarding the Rogen/Apatow gang ("denial" at early stages of such talks is not uncommon), but that nothing about the project is either clearly defined or set in stone. Know more? TELL ME!!!

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  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Nobody steps on a church in my town!

    by zerogundamx

    This man has no dick

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Yes, it's true.

    by Daytripper69

    The man has no dick.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    The video game can't even get released

    by jimmay

    As of this writing, no one wants to publish it, it has no release date--even tentative--and it may well be headed for video game hell. <p> I love the original movie as much as anyone, but the franchise just can't seem to get back off the ground. Let it go.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Second

    by colinjbooth

    Ghostbusters in Hell is a suckass title.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    It needs to be written by Ramis and Akyroyd

    by mr teaspoon

    I would be able to accept a new cast as long as the writing is the same.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    uh oh.

    by Vinster

    I am a HUGE ghostbusters fan (I have my own self built proton pack) and I want to see more GB stuff, but...I don't think a new Live Action movie is the way to go. I have a feeling it will just get too silly...and seeing other guys in the suits...man will that be weird. If there ever was to be a 3rd...the time has past. It needs to have all 4 original guys.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    okay, 1..2...3...GET HER

    by satman83

    i hope to good this is NOT true, any new Ghostbusters film now would just be shit.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Listen...

    by loafroaster

    ...you smell something?

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST

    I'm gonna take back some of the things I said about you, Egon.

    by loafroaster

    You... You've earned it

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Sir, almost half of us voted for you in the last election.

    by lbayniner

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Ghostbusters 3 = Ghostbusters in Hell

    by enderandrew

    They are the same concept. He's been saying for years the concept of G3 is that New York, present day becomes hell. The dead souls mingle with the living, and all suffer in the agony of what we make of our lives. The message was supposedly just like G2, in which New Yorkers need to be more positive about their town, and was rekindled by 9/11. Release the damned video game, and then you'll know if there is interest in the movie. I've also said do G3 as animation, and then it doesn't matter that the cast is old. They can just do voice overs. The other thing that Hollywood completely overlooks is that there are some Flash studios who do TV-caliber animation with Flash very cheap. Kevin Smith was going to do a Clerks animated movie with a Flash studio on the cheap. Animated movies don't have to be expensive, but Hollywood won't wise up.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Please don't let Rogen and Apatow near Ghostbusters!

    by DerLanghaarige

    Please! This would seriously be bad news if this turns out to be true! I would rather see a remake starring Jude Law, Ashton Kutcher, Colin Farrell and the rapper of the week than a sequel by Apatow and Rogen! !

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    "Gozer the Traveller;

    by DocPazuzu

    ...he will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii, the Traveller came as a large and moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex Supplicants, they chose a new form for him -- that of a GIANT SLOAR! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar THAT day I can tell you!"

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    I can't believe no one wants to...

    by eric haislar

    pick up the game. I can't wait to play the damn thing. I would think it would be a no braiier to put that out its got built in audience.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    There is no Ghostbusters 3, only Zuul.

    by photoboy

    It would be great if they could get the whole cast together again (I suspect we'd have a GB3 by now if it weren't for Bill Murray being reticent), but I don't want to see them handing off to Ben Stiller or any of that stuff, I just want the original Ghostbusters!<br><br> Maybe if they had the original Ghostbusters semi-retired in the beginning, they could be in charge of a massive Ghostbusters empire with offices in every major city worldwide. They could then have younger guys doing the actual busting at the start of the film. But then all those guys could be captured and the original team has to suit up one more time and show the ghosts how they do things downtown... I dunno how you'd work Dana into it though.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Rogen and Apatow having a hand in Ghostbusters?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Wow...this is the best news I've heard since Bush won a second term. Seriously....what the fuck? Thats like handing the keys to the Taj Mahal over to Rip Taylor and saying, "Here...spice the place up!" <P> Incompetent flavor of the week douche bags are no substitute for true comedic genius. Don't touch Ghostbusters unless its the original creators....dumb fucks.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    GHOSTBUSTERS 3: GHOSTBUSTERS IN DEVELOPMENT HELL

    by TheNorthlander

    ...would be a good movie title.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Why do all the

    by kafka07

    guys around the campfire all look like Thomas Hayden Church?

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was sh

    by eric haislar

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    It's Dany AYKROYD

    by Lou C.

    Geez. I usually let this stuff pass, but it's written about 100 times up there. Holy shit.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Venkman, shorten your stream! I don't want my face burned off!

    by eric haislar

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Boy, the superintendent's gonna be pissed!

    by eric haislar

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by BrightEyes

    You Whiney Little Cunt

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Seth and Judd are WRONG

    by krylyyk

    I love their stuff. I think they are very funny. But, the comedy style is just WRONG for Ghostbusters.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    The Fanfilm is really well done!

    by decypher44

    Sure, the acting is bad, but the editing, effects soundtrack...good stuff!

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    why are rogen and apatow considered funny?

    by LORDRANDO

    There only funny movie was funny because it was Steve Carrel. Outside of that, I have no faith in a "comedy" written by them. Their movies are half baked tripe that isnt even funny on paper. Studios follow money and they make money. That does not make them remotely qualified for this job.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    "ever enigmatic Rick Moranis."

    by fiester

    Really? What's so enigmatic about him?

  • ...both Patron and Ghostbusters

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    "ever enigmatic Rick Moranis."

    by hatemphd

    No one has seen or heard for him in a while... people think he quit acting, but they don't know.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    listen.. do you smel that?

    by ironic_name

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    listen.. do you smell that?

    by ironic_name

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:21 p.m. CST

    youre right - we can do more damage that way.

    by misnomer

    Look, if Rogen needs to be involved for a studio to actually greenlight this fucker then so be it. I am a fan. BUT, and its a big one, the original cast needs most of the screen time here and Murray has to come back for it, he really does.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:37 p.m. CST

    we'll take it!

    by ironic_name

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    "ever enigmatic Rick Moranis."

    by fiester

    Maybe he just couldn't get work. <p> But wasn't he voicing that new Bob and Doug MacKenzie cartoon?

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Murray and Harold Ramis in "Stripes"

    by fiester

    Now that's some funny, funny shit right there, yo. Watch Ramis' facial reactions in the scene where the their army squad is sitting around introducing themselves to one another. So damned funny.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Tie in Ghostbusters International!

    by Royston Lodge

    There's lots of potential from the Ghostbusters role-playing game, where the NYC Ghostbusters have realized they can make WAY MORE money by selling franchise rights than by actually fighting ghosts. I say, make a Ghostbusters III where "the guys" have become filthy stinking rich as the heads of Ghostbusters Inc, and then make the conflict all about some supernatural "corporate raider" who undermines the company and force "the guys" to return to their roots. Since the first one as really all about "the moral redemption of Peter Venkman", it would be an easy way to bring the series full-circle. Of course, it could easily get carried away with too much anti-corporate, left-wing ideology. But, getting carried away is always the biggest risk with a third Ghostbusters flick. Oh, and get someone like Jason Reitman or the people behind Arrested Development to direct it. Team Apatow would be terrible terrible terrible.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    In enjoy Rogen and Apatow...

    by beastie

    ...but I don't know about them for a Ghostbusters project. No. Based on Pineapple Express, I think Rogen could write a good script that blends comedy and action, but not Apatow. The ideal people to revive (not remake or reimagine) the franchise in my opinion are Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    How to work in Dana

    by Darth Busey

    Easy. You don't. Dana was a love interest for Murray. Bill Murray does not need a love interest in any future Ghostbusters movie. This franchise is ripe for a remaking/sequel, and there is too much money laying around for this not to happen. I like the idea of having the OG Ghostbusters being semi-retired and being lured into one last job, hand off the keys to a new team, and let Ackroyd take on the on-screen advisory role. Just make sure William Atherton has a cameo.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Try to imagine...

    by Dr. Egon Spengler

    all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light. Do it! Do it! Give us a third movie!

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Yes it's true...this man has no dick.

    by JediRob

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    If Rogen/Apatow are involved

    by Darth Busey

    Can we please get Bill Hader involved in some capacity? Thanks in advance.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Wait, they're SKIPPING a generation?

    by Squashua

    Man, I was hoping that they'd hand it off to Stiller, Wilson Bros., Vaughn and Ferrell. To hear it's going to the Apataw Gang is... eh. His films are starting to feel like the same joke over and over. If they can evoke the tone of the FIRST film, I'm good with it; the SEQUEL, not so much. And no Slimer, gratuitous or not.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST

    I'm picturing Ricky Gervais as a minion...

    by Royston Lodge

    My mind is running with the Ghostbusters as corporate scum idea. I totally see Ricky Gervais as a human minion of whatever supernatural baddie is trying to undermine "the guys". Ooh ooh ooh!!! What if the "baddie" is Death herself, and she's pissed because the Ghostbusters corporation is really screwing up the fabric of the universe by containing free spirits in holding chambers all over the World!!! So, "the guys" are faced with a catch-22 because the "baddie" is actually a "goodie" with an important role in the Universe!!!

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    BETTER YET!!!!

    by Royston Lodge

    The "guys" are retired and filthy stinking rich because they sold their interest in Ghostbusters Inc. It has gone on to be a huge corporation. Ricky Gervais is the current CEO and - get this - he doesn't believe in ghosts! He is the weak link in the corporate chain that allows the supernatural baddies to strike back against that which has been a thorn in their side - Ghostbusters Inc.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Save the aging comedy legends!

    by subtlety

    Seriously, if only Harold Ramis and Dan Aykroyd could rekindle the brilliance of their younger days... <br>Ramis' "Analyze" movies are good for a chuckle at best... "Bedazzled" was a near miss for me, coming close to the kind of wild, semi-surreal comedy that made his career, but sagging in the acting and production. "Ice Harvest" was a great dark comedy/drama as far as I'm concerned, but come on Harold, make me laugh already!<br><br> As for Aykroyd... the less said the better. "Crossroads" are you fucking serious? The man hasn't even written anything since "Blues Brothers 2000"...its pretty much been all lame cameos since then. <br><br>And yeah, you know you want to see Ernie Hudson's name at the top of a film poster again. It just feels right.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    SOUNDS LIKE THE STUDIO ARE PLANNING IT WITHOUT THE ORIGINAL CAST

    by Ray Gamma

    If the studio is planning a new Ghostbusters WITHOUT the original cast, then they will truly deserve the enormous flop it will turn out to be.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    What did you do Ray?

    by Dr Gregory House

    So be good, for goodness sake...whoa....somebody's comin', somebody's comin'

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Fan Films

    by malpaso

    The barnacles of the film industry...

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Sounds like Producer-speak

    by agro23

    The clip sounds like Producer-speak for "we're haggling rates".

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST

    New GBust=great idea

    by bobbofatz

    Sasha Cohen= Ramis type character, Jack Black= Akroyd and vince v.= murray type

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Fuck GB. Nothing But Trouble 2!!!!!!

    by darthpigman

    I'd love to see how Seth Rogen handles a ride through Mr. Bone Stripper and to see that bitch Catherine Heigl play poker with Bobo and Lil' Devil.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Let's show this prehistoric bitch how we do things downtown...

    by NeoMyers

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    AIM FOR THE FLATTOP!

    by ironic_name

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    The "They Go Up" line...

    by darthpigman

    Was ad libbed on the set by Moranis. They gave the line to Murray. I'm Ivan Reitman, by the way.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    I like Rogen, but he is no substitute for Murray.

    by tbransonlives

    Can anyone see Bill Murray coming back to this franchise? I don't.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Have Venkman punch Janine in the face

    by darthpigman

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST

    There's your problem right there:

    by Rufus

  • And that's not a difficult thing to do either!

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Have Jonah Hill bust Penis Ghost

    by darthpigman

    Penis Ghost can be the new Silmer.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST

    I'd rather a remake.

    by Irina Spanko

    Handing it off to new people is a terrible idea. Ghostbusters caught lightning in a bottle. It was a combination of those particular actors and their sense of comedy, as well as a million other things. A remake without ties to the original would at least be new, and wouldn't drag down the name of the original.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    "Back off man, I'm a scientist"

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    We've been dealing with this for years

    by WolfmanNards

    I'm a huge fan. I have prop replicas of traps and proton packs. Have the GB symbol tattooed on my upper arm. I live and breathe that shit. And I've heard rumors like this time and time again. I've come to learn, especially when it comes to Ghostbusters, not to believe anything until it is right in front of your face. However, no matter what they do with the franchise next, it won't live up to the expectations I have. I've spent all this time imagining what would make the perfect sequel and I know they won't come anywhere near what is in my head. I'm happy with the first 2 movies and we should leave it at that.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    One simple rule: Ghosts must not be dead people.

    by Royston Lodge

    Think to yourself, what's the really big reason why Ghostbusters was funny but the Casper the Friendly Ghost movie wasn't. After all, Casper was supposed to be a comedy, based on a pretty funny comic book. Beyond the obvious (talent, writing, etc, etc), there's one key factor: In Ghostbusters, the ghosts are not dead people. They're just "ghosts". You never find out who they were when they were alive. We don't care. They're like Stormtroopers or Droid Army soldiers. They just "are". Casper, on the other hand was a dead freakin' boy. That - isn't - funny. Why do I bring up casper? Because the same concept was the fatal flaw of the second Ghostbusters. The bad guy ghost was a dead person. Sure, he was bad when he was alive and stuff, but it still doesn't add to the comedy. In the first GB, the big bad guy at the end was a god, not a dead person. It's a whole different soft of mojo. IF a GB3 actually gets made, it is VITAL that none of the supernatural beings are dead people. They can be gods, or "beings", or "forces", or "mummies", or "zombies", or even plain ol' "ghosts". But they cannot, under any circumstances, be dead people. Dead people aren't funny.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Has anyone consulted Tobin's Spirit Guide on this?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Anybody?

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST

    You never studied.

    by Royston Lodge

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Actors who don't know shit

    by Conrad Straker

    This is just like Robert Englund talking about having heard Billy Bob Thornton's gonna be Freddy Krueger. Where'd he hear that one from? A journalist who doesn't know shit. Ackroyd is probably in the same position. He probably "read it on the internet" and took it as true.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Even the Real Ghostbusters reboot was a poor imitation.

    by Royston Lodge

    Maybe that should be the big warning that GB3 cannot be done. The Real Ghostbusters was one of the best Saturday morning cartoons ever made. When they did the reboot with Egon leading those stupid kids, I wanted to pull by own eyes out. The cartoon is evidence (if not proof) that for a GB story to fly it NEEDS the original characters, though not necessarily the original actors...

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Bedazzled was awesome

    by David Cloverfield

    But unfortunately the last good an original "team member" made. I'm all for Royston Lodge's idea though. The second one had them come back from obscurity, let's start the third one with the GBs as the king of the world. It even has some real world parallels. They're comedy legends, Murray fights for an oscar, but they have to reunite one more time. The rich asshole Ghostbustes have to assamble one last time to face some Gozerian nightmare. I would donate money to see that shit. They're old now - use that. Indy didn't - they tried to convince us Ford can still jump around like Prince of Persia. Can you imagine the ego of a millionaire franchise leader Venkman, and him getting cut down a notch?

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Holy shit, that's some terrible spelling

    by David Cloverfield

    and structure. My own post is fucking my eyes.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Phoenixmagi2 - You hit a nail right into my head!

    by Royston Lodge

    How to write Moranis into it: Lewis Tully has long wanted to be one of "the guys", but c'mon who does he think he's kidding? So, while "the guys" are off figuring our how to deal with Death and still save Ghostbusters Inc., Louis Tully uses his mastery of the mighty powers of ACCOUNTING to bring down the useless CEO played by Ricky Gervais! After the dust settles, "the guys" make Louis Tully the new CEO, safe in the knowledge that only he has the true interests, and the real spirit of Ghostbustin', to keep the company on the right track. Fuck, I'm tellin' ya, this shit writes ITSELF!!!

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Some year's Little Miss Slimer!

    by Phillyflopper

    C'mon, you all were thinking it. Or perhaps you prefer, "like Die Hard on a Roller coaster".

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Listen - do you smell something?

    by Samson_K

    And is Dan Aykroyd turning into Stephen King?<BR><BR>After Indy, Die Hard et al - I don't know which I'd like to see - a new team or the old team. If Bill Murray doesn't want to do it then I don't want to see it because the Ghostbusters without Venkman would be like Smokey and the Bandit III - Smokey is the Bandit!

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Royton...

    by wyvern

    What about the librarian ghost and the the survivors coming to the dock from the titanic?

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    David Cloverfield: Man, you just gave me more ideas...

    by Royston Lodge

    I totally envision a scene with Venkman making some guest appearance at one of those Franchise Expos that are always held at some airport hotel. Ricky Gervais' character is selling Ghostbusters like it's Amway, and Venkman does very quick convention appearances cuz it pays for his Faberge egg habit. At some point, he realizes that Ghostbusters Inc. is in danger of becoming what Walter Peck originally accused it of being, a big scam. And it's only come to this because, with so many free spirits imprisoned around the world, there's little REAL work for GBI (Ghostbusters International) franchisees to actually DO. That's why the CEO doesn't believe in ghosts, why Death is so pissed, and why "the guys" are in such a catch-22. THEY HAVE TO DESTROY GHOSTBUSTERS IN ORDER TO SAVE IT!!! Where's my million dollar genius writer's cheque?

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Get Ron Moore to reboot it...and make it "dark"...

    by Jim Jam Bongs

    Just kidding. I hope.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Royston Lodge

    by David Cloverfield

    I think there's a tiny bit more thought and work to put into it to make money. But it would be fun to watch them trying to put the genie back into the bottle. They realize something is using the whole organization to collect entities, to form one huge supernatural army. All the containers blow in the same time around the world, etc... Neh, I'm drunk. Have fun writing it.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Wyvern: I was waiting for that question.

    by Royston Lodge

    a) She's "the librarian ghost". We never find out how she died. We never find out when she died. We never find out what her name was, if she was married, if she was a mommy, if her death was tragic, yadda yadda yadda. Her story begins and ends as "the librarian ghost." She's not a dead "person". To qualify as a "person", we have to know who she was when she was alive. The librarian thing is just aesthetics. The same pretty much goes for the Titanic survivers. While we technically "know" how they died (the ship sank so they drowned), it's still a funny gag because that's as far as it goes. If one of the survivors was given any LINES about trying to find their luggage, or worse wanting to meet one of their descendents, THAT would cross the line from "ghost" to "dead person". A "ghost" is sci-fi, but a "dead person" is horror, and horror-comedy IMHO never works. As further evidence, I could go on to contrast The Nightmare Before Christmas (funny) and Corpse Bride (not funny). It's the same sorta dilemma.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    FYI: When are we gonna get an 'edit' feature on talkbacks?

    by Royston Lodge

    I used an a) when I didn't actually have a b) to follow it up with. ;-)

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST

    I get what your saying..

    by wyvern

    I wouldn't want ghostbusters to turn into the sixth sense with back story on the ghost.Beetlejuice and the Frightners or the only movies I can think of off the top of my head that also tried comedy with some horror.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Shit happens... someone has to deal with it,

    by Rufferto

    and who ya gonna call? How about you Mocap the movie? I don't want to see new Ghostbusters, especially Ben Stiller and the other fucks that have been mention. But if the video game is having a hard time being released then forget about this happening.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST

    What about the Twinkie?

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Ah man, greatest one-liner in the flick. And the fan film, "Freddy vs. Ghostbusters was pretty good too.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Needs more Janosz!

    by DocPazuzu

    "It is Vigo! You are like the buzzing of flies to heem!" <p> "Yes, yes, the joyfulness is over!" <p> "Why you are came?"

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Ghostbusters 2 sucks.

    by Rev. Slappy

    I love the first one, but the second one was a lazy cash grab. I would love to see a third one, but only if it's as good as the first one. I think Vince Vaughn would be great in something like this and after seeing Tropic Thunder, why not let Stiller write and direct it? He can clearly handle big scale comedy.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST

    That's a big Twinkie.

    by mrfan

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    You lot are a bunch of negative creeps

    by deanamatronix

    You constantly shit on everything. And I do mean everything. There is not one piece of "news" that appears on this sorry excuse of for a site without tirades of abuse aimed at whoever is even mentioned in the report. I'll admit Apatow's ovure is a mixed bag, but if he and Rogen (who is pretty good at what he does, fuck you whoever disagrees) want to give Ghostbusters 3 a shot, so be it. It's not like your petty whining is going to stop it. Indiana Jones sucked. No amount of whinging from a bunch of faceless no-names stopped that from happening. If even rabid Harry Potter fans cant get a film's release date changed, there's nothing you people can do to stop these cogs from turning. Just accept it and thank your lucky fucking stars you have such a wide range of movies to chose from and whinge about.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    just watched the first one the other day

    by Charlie_Allnut

    One of my favorite movies from my childhood along with Star Wars, Indy and Back to the Future. These guys are all a little long in the tooth but why not?

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    A Twinkie Story

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Ah man, I love this line. One day at work, we had this huge chick who we really disliked. So one coworker is like yo, she could fuck your ass up. My other friend said nah man, I'd throw a twinkie on the floor to distract her and when she goes to eat it, I'd kick her right in the head. I had missed out on the joke cause I only heard the laughing. My friend says tell him about so and so and the twinkie. So, I did my best Murray impersonation from the flick. Ah, timing is everything.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Wyvern: Beetlejuice is a great example of what I'm talking about

    by Royston Lodge

    Everybody who is a "ghost" is funny. The "dead people" aren't funny. Geena Davis and Alec Baldwin's characters are sad and depressing. The football team gag is also creepy and depressing, because we can't help but think of how tragic that situation actually is, even if we only get it on a subconscious level. The gag is saved somewhat by the "he survived" line, cuz it relieves the tension to know it's not ALL bad. The rest of the ghosts, particularly Beetlejuice himself, are merely "ghosts", and therefore have license to be funny. I shutter to think how creepy the movie would have been if we learned what he (the worst, nastiest, most corrupt, most amoral and deceiptful ghost in the afterlife, remember) was like when he was alive! He was probably a serial killer or something!

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Deanamatronix - not true.

    by Royston Lodge

    I truly believe it COULD be done, but there are plenty of clearly identifiable pitfalls that have to be avoided to pull it off. The pitfalls are NOT unavoidable. It COULD be done. I'm just thinkin' out loud about what the pitfalls are. Whether the writers/producers/directors are also able to recognize what elements MUST be included and which ones MUST be avoided will remain to be seen.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Its too bad...

    by Charlie_Allnut

    That some of these guys just lost their comedic brilliance -- The early SNL guys just killed and made amazing movies for about ten years then just lost their mojo and stunk up Hollywood. Comedy hasn't really been the same for me since.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST

    There's but one question: will Shia play the spunky new GB...

    by Stalin vs Predator

    ...who is a new addition to the old team, or will he play the leader of a whole new group of spunky modern GBs?

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST

    C'mon, Bill Murray's still brilliant.

    by Royston Lodge

    Even his brief cameo in Get Smart was funny. Harold Ramis and Ernie Hudson would be fine. Ramis' cameo in As Good As It Gets was a perfectly serviceable performance for such a small part. The weakest link is Dan Aykroyd. Aykroyd's problem, IMHO, is that he's become too identifiable as "Dan Aykroyd". He's made his living for too long as himself rather than the characters he plays. There's his House of Blues radio show, his winery, his stint with that awful show about supernatural phenomena, etc. He's too much of a persona unto himself now, so it's really hard for the audience to suspend disbelief and see him as whatever character he plays. It's like when a news anchor does a cameo as an unnamed journalist in some movie. You simply can't suspend disbelief. But, I still hold out hope that Aykoyd could slip back into the Ray Stanz character. If William Shatner can manage to own a character outside of his own persona as well as he does on Boston Legal, surely Dan Aykroyd can do it.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Ghostbusters 2 is funny, period.

    by BadMrWonka

    sure, it's not as good as the first one, but what is?<p>seriously, the lines my Venkman when they're frozen and he's trying to distract Vigo are SO FUNNY. if you don't laugh at them, you have no sense of humor.<p>"Not so fast Vigo! hey Vigo! Yeah you, the bimbo with the baby. Did anybody tell you the big shoulder look is out? You know i have met some dumb blondes in my life but you take the taco, pal. Only a Carpathian would come back to life now and choose New York. Tasty pick, bonehead! If you had brain one in that HUGE melon on top of your shoulders you'd be living the sweet life out in Southern California's beautiful san fernando valley."

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    The more I think about it, the more I think Aykroyd COULD pull i

    by Royston Lodge

    I'm thinking back to the last time (as far as I remember) that Dan Aykroyd did SNL. Dan Goodman was the host, and The Tragically Hip was the musical guest. Aykroyd was REALLY good. He slipped into the characters perfectly. The "da bears" sketch with Aykroyd, Goodman, AND George Wendt was hysterical (I even think Brian Dennehy did a walk-on for that sketch). Even though there were three (four) big-name personae in that sketch, they owned the characters they played. So, I think Aykroyd can do it, theoretically.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Status of the video game

    by Liverstealer

    The Game IS coming out. According to protoncharging.com, Sony has found a publisher (and had to beat off the suitors with a 10 meter cattle prod). Again according to P.C., they should be announcing who the publisher is and the release date in a few weeks. It was never in danger of cancellation. For all intensive purposes, the game is Ghostbusters 3. There's been a few game plot points revealed and some of the major components line up directly with the GB3 script review done by Stax from IGN a few years back. The game will be great and fitting continuation of the story. Judd and Seth working on it? I know they have love for the material, but I'm not sure their particular style can fit into the Ghostbusters universe. It would be cool however if they could do a CGI movie as a companion piece to the video game, but I doubt that would happen. The game is coming. The original cartoon on DVD is coming. Some great GB stuff is in the pipeline even without this new Apatow nugget.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    BadMrWonka: Agreed, to a point...

    by Royston Lodge

    But I still firmly believe that the key element that prevented GB2 from being REALLY funny, enough that it could compete in our memories with the first one, is the villain. Gozer is funny, even though he/she is really quite evil. It's not just because he/she becomes the marshmellow man. It's also because the situation of these goofball Ghostbusters having to save the planet from this deadly serious Sumerian god is just so freakin' absurd. The way Vigo is written, it's like they couldn't quite decide how to handle him. Is he supposed to be funny? Is he supposed to be scary? In the end, he's neither. He's just sorta disturbing. He either has to be a much bigger character, like a god of a freakin' force of nature (like, say, Death, for example), or much smaller like a "ghost". GB2 would have had a much better chance at greatness if Slimer was the big villain. Write some excuse for Slimer becoming freakishly powerful and "the guys" have to stop him. He doesn't even need to be evil. There's WAY more opportunities for comedy there. They could have even tried to find a way to make subtle connections with the cartoon. Vigo just made me think of a tired old man, or Dracula, or something like that.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    We REALLY need an 'edit' button.

    by Royston Lodge

    Of course, I meant John Goodman...

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Have to agree with Liverstealer

    by Bob Samonkey

    As of two weeks ago I have heard that this game is on the fast track to release. People were confused as there was another game around the same time about the franchise but they did not have the rights to it.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Don't stare at me, you got them bug eyes.

    by nick lang

    Janine...sorry about the bug eyes thing.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    "Why am I drippings with goo?"

    by spire_walk

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Bob Samonkey

    by jimmay

    I don't know about another game, I've only ever heard of the one, but there is considerable doubt as to who by, when, or even if, it is going to be published. <p> Activision, who was originally set to release the game as early as next month, dumped the property when they merged with Blizzard, and has washed their hands of it. No clear explanation was ever given as to why, but popular conjecture/rumor holds that the game simply cost too damn much; presumably due to the star voices and celebrity likenesses (of which reportedly Bill Murray's was by far the priciest and most reluctantly granted). <p> Sony, who owns the original license, is shopping it to other companies, and everyone involved has taken pains to assure fans it hasn't been cancelled and will be published, but at this point no one really knows what'll happen. All manner of rumor surrounds the projects apparent woes, and a recent boost to the uncertainty has been the fact that Gamestop has cancelled all preorders for the game, scrubbed the title entirely from their website, and is refunding any existing orders--something Gamestop is characteristically want to ever do.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Royston:

    by Rev. Slappy

    The reason GB2 is it's essentially the exact same movie as the first one. You have Vigo in for Gozer, you have the Statue of Liberty in for Mr. Stay Puft. It's incredibly lazy on the writing level. Murray's riffing can't save it.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 9:53 p.m. CST

    If ever there was a franchise...

    by Rakafraker

    ...that needed to be resurrected, it's Ghostbusters. I could care less about the next Superman. I could care less about the Wolverine movie (!!!). I could definitely care less about the next Nicolas Cage movie. <p>I WANT ANOTHER FREAKIN' GHOSTBUSTERS MOVIE!!!<p>The dream is to have an incredible script, the original cast, and $120M for a budget. I swear on my life that I would go and see Ghostbusters 3 at LEAST 5 times in the theatre, and buy the DVD for everyone I know at Christmas, AND buy every super-extended box set that comes out, if they can make it all happen. <p>Heck, I've bought the Ghostbusters on Beta (yes, I'm that old), VHS, DVD, and when I finally decide to buy a PS3, I'll get them on Blue-ray. (And yes, I will buy the game WHEN it comes out) <p>If there are any studio-folk reading this: Yes, there are people out there that are THIS goofy for a great Ghostbusters sequel. Even if it has to be the last one with Bill Murray. <p>As for Apatow and Rogen, I don't see this as their style. They tend to be anti-action IMHO for the most part (yes, I've seen PE). Stiller would be alright if he was behind the cam and wasn't on-screen. The ideal IMHO, would be to have a good action/story writer (Goyer?), a good action director (Favreau?), and let the actors improv the comedy. <p>Fantasy fini.

  • Sept. 5, 2008, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Gawd, PLEASE NO! Not Seth Rogen that stupid fucknut.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    That jerkoff is annoying as hell.<p>And horribly overrated.

  • Sept. 5, 2008, 5:26 a.m. CST

    "horror-comedy IMHO never (NEVER!) works"

    by half vader

    American Werewolf in London! Jesus! I take it you're against black/gallows humour then. On a more Ghostbusters level, Little Shop of Horrors worked too. What about Evil Dead 2? Gremlins? Dawn of the Dead? Peter Jackson's earlier stuff? Fargo? The end of Life of Brian? The Producers probably qualifies at a literal if not a conceptual stretch. Geez, what about European films? And if the footballers weren't funny, are you telling me that the smoking (literally/figuratively) corpse in Beetlejuice wasn't funny? 'Cause the whole point of that one is knowing how he died and it doesn't get more tragic and simultaneously stupid than that. Why would you try to protect yourself by saying IMHO and then cancelling that out by saying never? And you say it's just about knowing how they died, then say no, ALL horror-comedy. What the fuck ever dude. But let me say it again to deter you from making idiotic sweeping generalisations. American Werewolf. <p> O.K. I'm nothing like the GB expert you are but I don't think you got the librarian thing at all. The reason you don't need any backstory for her is that you've already GOT it - it uses the worn old stereotype so you 'get it' straight away. The meek bookish librarian woman who nobody ever notices. You already KNOW she never married, had a family, you know how she died - she just faded away. And the thing is, even if you knew her when she WAS alive, you'd never remember her name. She WAS a person, but also a ghost. So even in a brief flash you know everything about her because it's such a broad joke. God forbid they wrote a funny, economical gag (much more concise than my explanation!)! The whole thing depends on you knowing this about her when she was ALIVE/it's ALL about her BEFORE she died. - Whether she's dead or alive she's just a/may as well be a ghost. THAT'S the stereotype of the librarian. Geddit? "Just aesthetics" my arse. And if you were "waiting for that question" (how snotty can you get?!), it comes off like you missed the forest for the trees. Maybe you're TOO close to this stuff.

  • Sept. 5, 2008, 9:41 a.m. CST

    "for all intensive purposes"

    by ArcadianDS

    just so you dont EVER type that phrase again, the proper line is, "for all intents and purposes..."<p>

  • Sept. 5, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    That YouTube Video

    by Nearside

    Was pretty neat. Nice job.

  • Sept. 5, 2008, 11:04 a.m. CST

    GhostBusters TV Series

    by magnius

    I wish that someone would make a multinational GB franchise, with a GB TV show set in New York, then maybe a couple more US locations (GB:Vegas, GB:Miami, you know the kinda thing) and then get other countries to make their own, so we would have GB:London, France would have GB:Paris etc....

  • Sept. 5, 2008, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Better Late Than Never

    by pr1c3y

    Thats right think about it on both levels quote but also true statement so layered.