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You know, SUPERMAN wasn't born on Krypton... But The House That Birthed Him Needs Your Help! Save Superman's Home!!!
Hey folks, Harry here - There's a lot of charities and worthy causes in the world. All of them are very much worth donating to. Whether it is something like Katrina, Pediatric Cancer or whatever other pet charity you folks know of. Well - I've got one that maybe you haven't heard of.
It's one about preserving History. About a group of geeks like us, that went on a pilgrimage to find the house that birthed SUPERMAN. Popular legend has it that Superman was born on Krypton. First off, how is that even possible? Did they speak English on KRYPTON. Was it on Krypton that he leapt buildings in a single bound? Did they even have bullets he could race on Krypton? I think not. At the very least - some reporter that beheld this marvel from Krypton named him... but in actuality - SUPERMAN was birthed by Siegel & Shuster - and the house where it happened was in Cleveland of all places. The town from A CHRISTMAS STORY.
And two summers ago when I traveled to Cleveland to attend the Alamo Drafthouse's Rolling Roadshow screening of A CHRISTMAS STORY at the fabled house where it all went down... It was amazing. That major prize from Italy was in the window. And inside the house everything was as our collective memories kept it. That's because somebody cared. All the BIRTHPLACES for everything that you've ever visited that got preserved - and that perhaps you've visited, that your grandparents took you to, that your parents took you to... or that perhaps you'll take your kids one day. Well those places are there because people like us said, "NO - IT WON'T BE TORE DOWN" and we gave what we could to preserve it.
That's what this post is about - Over at OrdinaryPeopleChangeTheWorld.Com A large gathering of Comic Folks have been setting about a movement to preserve the house that gave us SUPERMAN.
Wow. Can you imagine? We could lose that spot. We could lose a spot that bore the kernal that made so many heroic. How many soldiers, firefighters, policemen, journalists, comic folks and film folks wouldn't have dreamt of SUPERMAN, been inspired by his feats - had this house not given them that comfort to dream. This is the house that incubated those dreams.
Right now - they're working on raising about $50,000 to preserve the exterior of the house before they tackle the inside. This is urgent - as without preservation, the house could go in the next few months.
Now - if you just want to make a donation - Click Here!
In addition to setting up a donation area - they've assembled a great deal of loot that they're auctioning off - with all the funds going towards saving this house. OH - I got your attention. What sort of stuff you ask?
Well, right now at OrdinaryPeopleChangeTheWorld's Ebay Store the first auction is underway including:
Brian Michael Bendis will put YOU on the cover of his upcoming POWERS issue!
Jim Lee will draw YOU with SUPERMAN and then... You Actually Get The Art!
Along with work from Neil Gaiman, Dan Brereton, Dave Gibbons, Allen Bellman, George Perez, Travis Charest, Ian Churchill and the opportunity to have a character named after you in Greg Rucka's latest work.
BUT wait - there's more! In future weeks you could end up on an episode of HEROES, own a painting by Alex Ross - along with art from a stunning array of artists - and even VIP seats on the set of THE COLBERT REPORT!!!
The point of all of this is to one day have a shrine to the man of steel and the creators behind him. It is too much to dream that an angel would come and single handedly rescue the Man of Steel's birthplace... and honestly... that's not fitting. What's fitting is if we all did it. If we all came together and justified every sense of truth, justice and the American Way that Superman taught us. That we people of Earth are worth caring about, because we care right on back.
Well... don't ya?
"Moriarty" here.
Want some exclusive artwork to sweeten this article up even more? Hmmmmmm?
I'll bet you do. Here's some that Brad Meltzer hisself sent over for you guys:

I'm talking about exclusive art from John Cassaday and Murphy Anderson.

You see what caring gets you? It gets you EXCLUSIVE ARTWORK!
Not a bad deal if you ask me.


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Everyone - give what you can, and let others know - this is a place where a real American dream was realized!
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Check out the site. Nice auction. Get a T-Shirt!
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some of those rock star comic artist and writers
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"Gladiator" by Hugo Danner?
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They've made alot of money off Superman why can't they save it? Or how about Warners?
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Because of the economy and our conveniently crooked government, I am broke. But DC and Warner, they have the money...money that has come from me and plenty of other fans buying Batman and Superman related products and movie tickets for years, and watching Wonder Woman, the Super Friends, Justice League, etc.!!! Those greedy bastards should buy the house and place it in a museum!!!! As far as money, I am tapped out!!!
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Probably not. No museum. Just some loser living off the welfare of others. Hey Fattie why not have people donate to Diabettes association you and others would have better benefit then this sham.
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was written by Philip Wylie. Hugo Danner is the novel's main character and one of Superman's two main influences. The other was Doc Savage from whom Superman comes the name Clark and the Fortress of Solitude.
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See wat I mean?
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Then again, we preserve houses for a lot less.
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Sep 03, 2008 6:42:56 AM CDT
um.... this is NOT a worthy cause. Harry, you are an arse.
by w3bzpinn3r
Rather than giving money to preserve meaningless timber and nails, why not give money to causes that REALLY could use the money... such as those that help sick children, like the Shriners Hospitals. Another great option is donating to your local battered women & children sanctuary. Many have been put under a lot of financial stress because of the recent economic woes, and they would love the support.
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...yeah, with all the money we have shelled out to DC and Warners over the years they should fucking pay for it, cheap bastards. 50 g's is fuck all to those corporate whores.
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...an edit function would be greatly welcomed.
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Next thing Harry is going to want is money to save the house Obama was born in. Truly Harry, is this the best charity you can think of?
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some dude thats associated with superman lived in.. Harry you certainly know how to take geekdom to a whole different level, same with that knob with the so called $500 pledge... go buy some comics ffs
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I can see both sides of this argument going on here. Yeah, the economy is in the shitter right now for many of us which makes discretionary income all the harder to come by for anything beyond the essentials in life. For those of us in that category by all means take care of the home front first and foremost. For those of us that have got some measure of enjoyment from comics growing up, if we would donate even the cost of just one current issue of a comic book, that could go a long way towards helping to preserve this building. No one is asking anyone to save the world or cure cancer, but what's $5 if you've ever received any entertainment or enjoyment out of the character that was dreamed up within the walls there?
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How can they let such an iconic spot, nay a LANDMARK, get so close to destruction? Where's the local government to swoop in an take advantage of this in an election year? What a perfect opportunity for a politician to get notoriety and publicity while the geeks get a reprieve for this legendary place. Someone's advisory staff is really asleep at the wheel.
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oh come on... don't just play the "there are much better charities out there" card... OF COURSE THERE ARE! but this is a MOVIE SITE... do you really come here to read about charities for the homeless and puppies and else? If you're really interested, then you will go to the places were you CAN help, and stop crying about it here... jesus people, must you always find something to whine about!!!
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seriously?....HE'S NOT REAL.
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By Superman's birthplace, they mean the birthplace of modern comic mythology as we know it.
It's very likely that every comic character, storyline, piece of artwork, graphic novel, film, etc. that you've ever enjoyed would not exist if Siegel & Shuster had not created Superman.
And this is the house in which this landmark cultural icon was created.
It's ridiculous to think this historical site hasn't been preserved.
Anyone who says this is meaningless or not worth it, needs to GTFO of here.
This is a site for film fans and geeks in general, this culture wouldn't even exist without Superman.
Yeah I'd say this cause is pretty fucking important.
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By Superman's birthplace, they mean the birthplace of modern comic mythology as we know it. It's very likely that every comic character, storyline, piece of artwork, graphic novel, film, etc. that you've ever enjoyed would not exist if Siegel & Shuster had not created Superman. And this is the house in which this landmark cultural icon was created. It's ridiculous to think this historical site hasn't been preserved. Anyone who says this is meaningless or not worth it, needs to GTFO of here. This is a site for film fans and geeks in general, this culture wouldn't even exist without Superman. Yeah I'd say this cause is pretty fucking important.
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Gene Hackman should buy it and knock it down.
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WHO FUCKIN´ CARES?????????
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...shit it my bathroom! Should I flush or does anybody wnat to buy this thing? Actually it's two things, and they're pretty big.
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Are all going to hell to suck the cock of satan for all eternity! Grow up, it is a worthy cause! If you want to donate to a cancer charity etc. then fine, go ahead! But if somebody who has grown up with superman or any other comic books wants to donate to this, then its there fucking decision! Cocks!!
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Gimme a break guys.
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but this was almost incomprehensible. It really was. What was all that about speaking English on Krypton and leaping tall buildings? What? And why is it being torn down? And what is the "prize" in the window? I was thinking he was talking about the "leg lamp" from A Christmas Story? Anyway.
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Why no image of Superman on that site? Why is that kid wearing a generic handmade superhero costume?
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Seriously. You're kidding, right? Brad Meltzer filmed that as a spoof. I have to believe that. "This is how Cleveland took care of that house." If I had a drink, there would have been a great spit take. This is one of the single dumbest things I have ever seen on this site. I have a better idea. Since another hurricane just hit our fucking country, how 'bout we give that money to people who actually need it. ...
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...important in life.
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pretty ridiculous comparing something like this to actual charities... honestly harry what the hell are you talking about? do u even live in the real world any more or have you taken haven in some make believe utopia of geek heaven? and moriarty... very surprised you're in on this as well... get some perspective fellas
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You can get this house saved just by getting money from the people who are trying to save it. Look at the names. I will always be grateful to the creators for Superman. The best creation in comic books hands down. Their work will live forever. If I donate money it will be towards something important. This isn't.
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I can safely say NOTHING in Cleveland is worth saving. THis is silly. Superman lives in the minds and hearts of his fans, and anyone boring or stupid enough to visit such an "attraction" should be the ones supporting it. If its so great, charge admission to save it. But alas, its in Cleveland.
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Its obviously a joke.
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This happens all the time. These sites are historical, but since someone didn't hide themselves and their wartime diary in them, or someone's poor parents weren't given 40 and 41 whacks in them, but rather great comics and cartoons that changed the world were created in them, they are left to fall into ruin. Are you familliar with Laugh-O-Gram films? No? well check this out... http://tinyurl.com/5lcp9m
You know, all of the great goofy wackiness of the old Route 66 was abandoned and now it's just a vapor of a memory, and that should have preserved that too. But nope. It's gone, and it ain't comin' back. You don't know what you've got till it's gone. Donate a quarter, or a dime. It all adds up, and then you take some pride in knowing that you had done something worthwhile, sure, it's not grandiose and "life-saving" but it's worthwhile and you know it. -
Its a joke.
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starving kids in Darfur need these people money more than your asshole friends. Be smart like Obama and ask without bring up real charities.
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I can safely say that LORDRANDO is a douche. I've lived in Cincinnati my whole life, and I think we can start bagging on Cleveland only once we've gotten a tourist attraction on the same level as the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. No, yuppie shopping malls and sports stadiums don't count...
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Excuse me but Hurricane Katrina was 3 years ago and I think that 3 years is enough time to get yourself back on your feet. Now, if you would've said Gustav...
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Hilarious, I can't believe some are taking this serious. Bravo Harry, the next Andy Kaufman.
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Didn' they just sue and win like a hundred million dollars or something? BTW, The only item I would ever think of buying in this auction is the Gaiman postcard story. In twenty years, that'll be the most valuable one to have.
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I think it is a very cool place to save. It's not just us geeks. Superman is part of american history. I my self will be donating and bidding.
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This is the toilet where Jerry came up with the Kal-el name.
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It was just the house of a guy who lived there right? I guess it's not worthwhile to preserve it when you could be "feeding starving children". Seriously, just look at some of the irrelevant crap that's been deemed important enough to preserve and then you JUST TRY to tell me that the birthplace of superheroes and modern comics isn't important enough to protect. And this is fucking SUPERMAN, the only other fictional characters who are as iconic are Mickey Mouse and Jesus.
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It's a good thing we already cured cancer and saved all the starving children in Africa so now we can focus on the important stuff like this.
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Why not? Let's do this thing.
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Did the save the apartments that Kirby and Lee were living in? Gimme a break! Save your charity for a worthy cause.
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...it's not actually Superman's house. If Clark Kent lived there fine.
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Katrina, cancer, saving the house of a dude I never met who had one good idea for a comic book decades before my parents were born. Well shit, I'd be stupid not to! Anyone who gives a dime to this should have all their money taken away.
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... who gives a fuck. Sincerly Steve Langford and his huge penis.
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Sheeit, I'll bet the guy who designed Pringles came up with the idea for them *somewhere*--and we have to save that place! Harry, this is collectibles mania gone too far. Shouldn't folks spend their money on stuff that's actually important, like say an old poster or signed baseball? (yes, I'm being sarcastic)
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but thinking that the fans should pay for it? That's pretty sad especially when you think of all the people who got ultra-rich off of Superman. I guess with the economy booming and the low price of gas they figure the average geek has money lying around that they can hand out left and right. Maybe it's just my TV that keeps playing news stories about all the people in this country who don't have enough money to save their own house. So now they're supposed to save someone else's house because they had an idea in it. Jesus. I'm even sick of celebrities asking down and out Americans to donate to worthwhile charities. This takes the cake.
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... They have the cash on hand, I'm sure... they just don't give a rat's ass... as usual.
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everybody involved in it needs a serious re-evaluation of their priorities in life.
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step right up dc/wb. they should do a joker viral campaign and get all the online fanboys to run around making donations at different locations all over the country with their joker makeup on.
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...no thanks. As has already been stated by others, there are much more important things that could use the money. What a waste.
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That the house is in a drug infested run down ghetto right? You'd be saving a house no one can and will visit. You're just helping Meltzer with some displaced white guilt. Now if they were to move the house....
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Aside from the fact that I don't give a shit about Superman, in this economy, why would anyone donate to this "charity"... just doesn't make sense.
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...honestly, shouldn't DC/WB step in and save it. They'd miss $50,000 less than I'd miss $100.
And, I'm sorry, but Alex Ross alone could eBay some originals and come up with $50,000 in about 10 days on his own, let alone all the other artists out there. There would HAVE to be 50 artists/writers who would donate $1000 worth of their originals to save this instead of it rolling down to the folks who spend $4/comic.
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Donate to one of those African charities to build wells for people literally dying of fucking thirst....then come talk to me about this horse shit.
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Sep 03, 2008 12:13:28 PM CDT
I'm pretty sure the house had nothing to do with it.
by bob cryptonight
I live just outside of Cleveland, and really, apart from those involved in raising the funds, no one cares.
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give with compassion to FIREWOOD.ORG
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Sep 03, 2008 12:24:04 PM CDT
And what's wrong his sleeves in that first drawing?!
by bob cryptonight
I mean, geez, that's even more silly than a guy having a cape!
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Funny how Meltzer is heading this thing up at the same time he releases a book about the murder of Siegel's father. If it REALLY meant that much to him, why didn't he start it when he was doing research for the book instead of waiting for it to be published.
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Meanwhile children starve because shitheads like Harry Knowles piss away money on this bullshit.
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AMIRITE?
what an asinine charity in the days following a major storm evacuation and the days ahead of not one, not two, but THREE potentially dangerous hurricanes off our coast.
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You dont have to give if u dont want to. U people say their all this worthy causes how many of u actually donate to those causes. Who the fuck are you to judge or deem what charity is worthy. As someone who gives to multiple causes i say this is also a worthy causes. And if you are pissed about starving children get off the computer and do something!
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I love Superman as much as the next guy, but come on. It's not like the house holds the secret of his power and if it's torn down history will reverse itself and it will be as if Superman never existed. We don't need the house. How about some of S&S's original art and manuscripts in the Smithsonian or something, that is interesting and actually somewhat important.
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Exactly! I don't donate to all the so called "worthy" causes so I'm sure as shit not going to donate any money to this fucking waste.
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...is showing me video of starving little african kids who need my charity.
Starving african children orrrrrrr the house where the idea for Superman came about...
Superman wins. Sorry starving african children. You probably have aids anyhow and superman can never get aids.
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How about INSTEAD, we all donate money to stop the genocides happening all over the world, or to the BILLIONS of people living in poverty across the globe. Friggin' A Harry, pull your head out of your ass.
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Superman is a part of Americana. The house should, at least, be on the historic register. Superman has been a significant cultural influence, and he's something uniquely American (cue "no, he's really Canadian" comments here).Sure, there are plenty of really worthy causes out there that desperately need money, too. But that doesn't make this cause unworthy -- and, they're not asking for that much money. If Cleveland had any sense, they'd turn this into a historic site and make money off the deal.
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there is a battle going on right now....and that battle is me NOT giving a shit....and me REALLY not giving a shit...i mean, how hard can someone NOT give a shit???....well now we know
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make money off the deal???.....can't imagine people traveling far and wide to visit a house a FAKE character grew up in.....silly stuff eh?.....but some people eat this shit up, shit it out, then eat it again....so
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I never said starving African kids were more worthy of my money than the Superman house. I'm not donating to either.
If I had to choose though it would be for the Superman house.
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...how many of you who denigrate this initiative spend even one iota as much time, effort, or money on the charities you bring up as you do pissing on ideas that other people who actually try and do something have organized?
No one is saying there aren't worthier causes - I guarantee you that most of the people involved in this effort contribute far more individually and collectively to the world's charities than anyone griping here.
And as far as having any impact on Cleveland - of course, enabling the city's pride in pointing out to its residents that something amazing came from right there in the middle of what is, yes, a neighborhood fallen on hard times, and working to provide it with a landmark that would ultimately bring people there couldn't possibly do anything to help the urban development of the area.
On the other hand, I'm wasting my time trying to have a civil discussion of salient points, when I could just write "fuck" a lot and pretend that I'm doing anything more noble with my time, too...
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the dave matthews band playing in the backgroud. ha ha.
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Metropolis, Illinois has made an annual festival from the character Superman, which brings in a fair amount of tourist revenue. You use what you've got, you know?jsherry -- wish I'd said that. Kudos.
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did you forget what website youre on???
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I'm just not a fan of the material (Superman) so i can't really relate to the importance of this....but fans and their fanaticism can't be held down....i consider myself a big fan of Star Wars but ive NO desire to go to any shows or "celebrations" or whatever they call it, its just not my thing to think that i have to honor objects or locations to immortalize my hobby....i mean, they could tear down Skywalker Ranch, stop having celebrations, and stop doing Star Wars altogether and it wouldnt phase me, i have what i need to always remember what matters to me. tis not the case for a great and many people though, some just enjoy the spectacle of visiting and seeing these things....me, not so much.
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People are right. There are many, many, many other more worthy causes to contribute to other than this. But, there is a cultural significance to this house. Obviously the person who holds the deed to the property does not care about its value... so why not donate the property to the city of Cleveland. This happens all the time with properties of historical or cultural value. Then let the city restore it and set it up as a museum - problem solved.
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it's a health risk. make a memorial there or something.
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Sorry but your writing on this item was horrible. Hope the house survives though.
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Good God, the ire and rancor on this site! It's obvious a lot of TBers seem to get some perverse thrill out of bagging on Harry or any cause/movie/whatever. I guarantee you Christ and Buddha could post a talkback that they were planning on feeding every one in the world and eliminating disease if everyone would just say a small prayer for hope and SOME of you would find something in that to bitch about... In fact, you could wake up tomorrow in fucking Utopia and would complain that you didn't get enough ice cream on your goddamn belgian waffle. Why don't you just go back to kicking puppies, robbing the sickly and elderly, and boring your parents with your pompous dreams of greatness. Assholes.
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He is terrible. I've said it before and will no doubt say it again. He tries so hard to be clever or funny but it never, and I mean NEVER works!
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Oh brother! Let the fucking family or WB save it. WB has plenty of money so why is it up to US?! What a bunch of shit.
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After seeing the stupid video attached with that pussy whining about the poor Stupidman house falling down I feel like i'm going to barf. Damn, I can't belive Harry put this up. And that dumbass WienerPenis donating $500! LOL! What a tool. You know what they say about a fool and his money.
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well if he "cant write shit" WHY do you read it???.....apparently you all know coming into this what to expect.....so why come here and look STOOPID-as-fuck (yes i know i mis-spelled it on purpose)bitching about it???.....the audacity of it all, its just pathetic
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...it's just that with the horrible shape the world's in there are, literally, thousands of better causes to contribute to. I like Doctors Without Borders myself but there are many, many, many others.
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First, just watching the video one can see just how bad it is. It is going to cost a lot to fix this.Obviously more than they think. Then you have to add in the upkeep. Throw in the fact that somebody is going to have to be the curator of this place.Second, if this is done than how many other comic creators places will need to be saved? It will go down hill after that.
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seriously that is the coolest superman i have seen in a while...
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...so that they can make a decent Superman movie for cryin' out loud.
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If all the artists that gave auction items donated they wouldn't need to ask for money......for fucks sake Seinfeld has loads of cash why the hell isn't he donating cash I'm sure he could afford it.
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With all of the goings-on in the world today, let alone here in the United States...how the hell does this even get on the radar of being a worthwhile charity?
Sorry, but with all of the sick, underprivileged, and starving (a feeling that a certain someone on here obviously hasn't felt in quite some time) out there...how can paying for a bunch of wood and nails that a fictional character was "born" in even be deemed worthy of a penny?
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Since WB and Siegel(family) have been suing the pants off each other for decades, I wouldn't hold my breath on WB coming forth with funds any time soon.
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why the city doesn't cash in on Superman's birthplace. I would love to have a statue of Superman in the heart of the city. Perhaps we could even have a comic book museum. It might invigorate a failing economy.
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Was typing late, and got the names backasswards. In the Newsarama article, it's revealed that the house is currently occupied: http://tinyurl.com/57uggk
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Speaking as a Superman fan, I can honestly say no. If either Jerry Siegel or Joe Shuster were living there and needed money for house payments, I'd be sending him 50 bucks right now. But neither they, nor their families live there anymore. So why should it be saved? I'm glad that it housed the co-creator of one of my favorite characters, but this "charity" is clueless when it comes to things that need to be saved.
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Sep 03, 2008 4:15:37 PM CDT
It's amazing how little people actually know about this whole to
by averagejoe_6
First - there is no Siegal estate to come up with the money. The legal battles with Warner Bros and DC have gone on for decades with the family receiving very little. If you check out the fundraising site, you will see that Siegal's widow is donating some persoonal items to help in the effort. Second, we are talking about the comic book superhero that started it all (Gladiator and Doc Savage were prose characters). Would comic books still have been created in some form even without Superman? Sure. But this is recognized as the definitive starting point. And the tone of this character affected everything that came after. Third - we are talking about one of the top 5 fictional characters that are recognized worldwide. Right up there with Mickey Mouse and Snoopy. This is the house where the character was actually first created by a teenage kid in his bedroom. While I TOTALLY agree in theory that this renovation should be paid for by people with much bigger pockets than the fans, the bottom line is that it hasn't. Is it unfair? Absolutely! But the reality is that nothing has been done for way too long and it is now down to us. Can I afford it? Not by a long shot. Will I still scrape up whatever I can? In a heartbeat. Yes, there are charities that are much more important than this. One's that save lives. But this is an effort that really doesn't cost that much realize and is achievable in a short amount of time. Everyone has a choice, and many will chose to pass on this. That is completely understandable. But if recognizing this effort (and taking all the shit for doing it) generates any revenue then I say it was worth it. Thanks, Harry!
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Both Siegal and Schuster deserve better than this. Let's say that this project gets done. Then what. How many people are going to actually get the chance to see it? Give them something that can be shared with the whold world.
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Smash the fucking thing into little pieces,sell the pieces to anyone gullible enough to buy such shit and give THAT money to REAL worthy cause!
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I already contributed to the McCain/Palin campaign. >:)
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he's the best cover artist of all time.
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Sep 03, 2008 6:41:20 PM CDT
".. but in actuality - SUPERMAN was birthed by Siegel & Shuster
by chiefpapa
When I first read that sentence, I was like preserve Toronto, wtf?! Yeah, that's not cool, need to preserve the House of El.
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What the fuck is that supposed to be? A scowling Superman with a receding hairline and fucked up sleeves? And the shading makes it looks like he's wearing shorts without tights. Really... What the hell is going on with his forehead and hair??? If it weren't for the S logo and the tops of his boots you wouldn't even know it's Supes.
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Now, does anybody want to donate money to save America's crumbling schools and poor neighborhoods? All that "truth, justice, and the American way" kind of stuff? Thought not.
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Sep 03, 2008 7:54:20 PM CDT
Meanwhile, Millions Of American Kids Go To Bed Hungry Each Night
by laserpants
Fuck them though! SAVE SUPERMAN'S HOUSE! Wait, no, not his house. The house where the guys who made him up used to live.
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LOL! You made my day
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... he's gas, isn't he?
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Some of your comments I had to post and save so I can laugh again when I'm straight. Very funny stuff.
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That bloke who directed Superman?
Well he did a huge turd that blocked the toilets at Warner Bros.
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I was trying to figure out what the hell you were talking about in that rambling post you call news..I couldn't even continue reading after a while, you just went on and ON..can you get to the POINT in some of your posts? Can some give me the details here? Who's house are we trying to save? Just give me a name!
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It’s truly a shame we routinely bulldoze history these days. Good work, Mr. Meltzer… good work. Thanks for the head’s up Mr. Knowles. Good stuff.
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This isn't my pet project. I didn't start it. I read a blog by Bill Morrison (of Simpson's fame) about it and decided to pass it along - if you go to the site - it's not only about Saving The House Where SUPERMAN Came From - but has links to about 150 other charities of all types. SUPERMAN either means something to you or it doesn't. History means something to you - or it doesn't. But by following that link and looking around - you can help ANY OF THE CHARITIES you can think of. And learn a little something about SUPERMAN.
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To the person who can erase the memory of Superman Returns from my brain. I never thought I would think that Superman 4 the quest for peace was NOT the worst Superman film, until I saw what Singer Shat out. Oh and I would donate, but I don't really care. Let them tear it down and build a Wal MArt for all I care!
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Thank you sir!
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DC should skim just a little bit off that Dark Knight money they've got stashed in a warehouse somewhere, and take care of this shit themselves. If it's not important to the people who run the show, why should WE care? They should also take care of all that legal bullshit with the creators' families, I mean the least they could do is give some cash to the people that gave them their boy scout cash cow. Greedy fucks.
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DC should also publicly acknowledge Bill Finger's involvement in Batman's creation. I mean Bob Kane's cool and all, but damn.
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its so stupid... kane lived there for a bit... the damn house has nothing to do with anything
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it's not about the money.. it's about sending. a. message.
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And the sad part is...all the stuff you hear about Fat Harry is TAD untrue. He came from a privileged backround, he didn't have to 'work hard' to create this site.
He had money, he's too lazy to actually pick himself up out of his sloth, and he hit the net at the right time. That is ALL.
I am a REAL disabled person with no privilege, and at 44 I am still struggling. Contacts and privilege mean EVERYTHING, don't let him or anybody fool you.
Footnote: Yes, you can still make it without, your chances are just much, MUCH slimmer.
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not to interrupt 7returns' stalky subtext, but i must digress- why does Superman have a pregnant forehead in that sleevey pencil drawing? and fuck YOU, 7returns. Maybe if we all cry you a river, you'll drown in an ocean of privilege.
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...first appear in a newspaper as a bald mad scinetist supervillain? Was that created in the same house? Or is that splitting hairs a little? Hairs! Ah, oh... stop looking at me like that...
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I am not giiving any money to Katrina. That bitch owes me $20 bucks!
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You weren't talking about the multiple charities. You were flogging the charity of "Save Superman's Home" . It's in the title of this page for goodness sake. And it isn't just about caring about history. It's about sending hard earned money in the direction of something worthwhile.
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I've actually quit commenting on these talkbacks & just come to AICN for the news now for the same reason. What a bunch of worthless assholes on these boards using this as an excuse to be outraged & try to crack a lame funny. If you think it's worthwhile, then pitch in. If you don't...then shut the fuck up.
Tootin' my own horn (but behind the mask of anonymity in the talkback), I'm involved with 3 good charities already that I'm not gonna bother to name here. Of course there are worthwhile charities out there that also deserve attention. Of course DC/WB should step up with their oil tankers of liquid cash. Even the city of Cleveland, which is quick to point out that their city is the actual birthplace of Superman should also be steppin up...but you're right. They don't care. Thanks for pointin out the obvious as usual.
BTW, I'm also a regular artist @ the Annual Superman Celebration in Metropolis, IL...and all of those great regulars that attend are steppin' up too. What do any of you guys bitchin about real causes do? Seriously. I'm talkin to you clever retort guy that works @ Blockbuster & lives in your Granny's basement until you die. What the fuck do you do to better your community? I know I'll probably get torn up after postin this, but if you do you'll just be proving my point that it's nothin'. Lead by example you dicks and maybe the big corporations that control the character will follow. You guys are the same ones that bitch about how shit is bad & why doesn't someone do something about that whenever it suits you & sits on you fat ass doin' nothing while doing so. No wonder you're bitter. -
Just HOW much money has Superman earned over the past 70 years?!? And DC won't stump up for this? You know, I hear poor Michael Jackson's Neverland is going to be sold. Hey, I mean, that's where the KING of POP lived!!! Shouldn't we donate to keep that? Hell, no. This is ridiculous. History, indeed...
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Fuck off you prick.people have better causes to donate to,they just don't come on here bragging about it.Try saving peoples lives over a shitty fucking building.
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There are people who see this as an important piece of Americana. I'm a lifelong Superman fan -- I think it would be a kick to visit the place.Certainly there are other worthwhile charities. Taking an interest in this particular charity does not denigrate any of the others. If that were the case, every time you buy a comic book you would be taking food out of the mouths of starving children, Katrina victims, etc., because you don't REALLY need that comic book and there are people in need that the (comic book) money could be used for.It's one worthwhile cause out of thousands. Support it or don't. But Harry's not the antichrist for having brought it to public attention.
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I know its been mentioned before, but why does this need to be here at all? DC, if it is important to them, should just step up and buy the place. It could easily become a tourist attraction in the long run. There are plenty of people who work in hollywood, who've worked on Superman, who could buy this without even blinking. Sorry, I just think this is all silly.
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with Siegel and Shuster for decades. There's no way they're going to spend a dime on Siegel's old home. Ain't gonna happen.Now Cleveland, that's a different story -- the city MIGHT be convinced to do something (but I doubt it).
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I have been to India six times and built schools out of bricks with my own hands. I took with me school textbooks that were purchased through donation money and some very nice collections of books from local universities. As for my own financial contributions, air fare and my own personally paid provisions and lodgings amounnt to more than what I pay per year for my truck - so Im covered there. I dont think Im going to siphon from that pool to pay for a run down house in a high crime area of a metropolitan city just because a cartoonist grew up in it. Its bugnuts
And you failed it harry (it is covering up for yourself) when you mentioned that there are lots and lots of other charities linked to the site you directed us to. This update wasn't about UNICEF or World Food Bank, or any other worthy charities like that. It was about a house that has a VERY LOOSE CONNECTION to the Superman mythos. VERY. LOOSE. That was the subject of this article, and that was the appeal you made. You didn't say, "hey guys here's a page full of links to charities" - you tried to sway us with a rediculous and poorly written sonnet about some guy's old childhood home, and tried to make it sound like it was an important landmark.
How about donating to Mount Rushmore? Did you know its upkeep and maintenance is ENTIRELY FUNDED BY DONATIONS?? If you want to save and preserve a landmark, I would think something like Mount Rushmore might be higher on the list than the house you just tried to get us to pay for. This has about as much cultural importance as Conway Twitty's House (which yes, you can visit and take a tour of. I swear it.). -
...for proving my point with that very well thought out reply. I'd also love to hear what you do & what worthwhile causes you support. What lives are you saving? By the way, I wasn't bragging about what I donate my time & efforts to. How is it braggin' if I don't list my name & what they are? (March of Dimes is one of em by the way, & I am very active in my local/regional chapter of that. That is literally saving lives my man). If I want to add a 4th and make it this cause if I choose, then that's my choice. You're obviously not doin' anything like that or I'm guessing the post wouldn't have struck such a chord w/you & prompted such a witty response.
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Seriously, I'm not being sarcastic here. That is awesome work. My comment was never meant to be directed to anyone like you. Anyone that has done work like that should be commended. I respect your opinion in regards to not saving the house even if I don't agree with it. To me this just goes a little deeper to some than buying a t-shirt to save Screech's house or some shit like that.
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It has come to my attention that the toilet originally used by the creator of "Chilly Willy" is scheduled for demolition. It MUST be saved! Please Headgeek! Your our only hope!
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Is that about knowing 'the real Harry'?
Umm..yeah...I know what a slimebag he is and what a liar he is. What's creepy about that?
Harry Knowles is the Gene Simmons of the 'movie web'. He will try to tell you and sell you anything. Sadly, a lot of you believe it.
The only reason I still come here is because of some of the writers like Capone and Vern and maybe 1 or 2 more. And they'd prob disagree with my rant against Harry. But they don't know what I know.
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SHUT YOUR FUCKING CREEPY MOUTH ALREADY!! you are embarassing yourself. Buttwipe.
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"So I will fuck a retarded pig in in the winky before I donate to this." - So it's a mom-on-son anal incest thing?
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Come say it to my face. Bethlehem,PA> Anytime. You just might ....might....get a chance to know fear.
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I run 10 marathons a year to raise for cancer research(raised over £8000 last year),I donate £100 a month to the NSPCC and I work free of charge at weekends for the British Heart Foundation...a fucking building is not high on my list of priorities.Twat.
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They started a charity to...fix the roof for the current slumlord owner and losers who live there!?
How about 1) buying the house 2) petitioning the City of Cleveland to name it a historical landmark 3) buy the adjacent worthless properties 4) fix the house up and add a statue and gift shop 5) put a fence around it (trust me, I live in Cleveland) and 6) open Geek Mecca.
I would do it myself, but it looks like the author-guy gets the right of first refusal to buy the property from the slumlord.
This isn't about the merits of various charity's or whose responsibilty it is to save this house. It's apparently about a pointless, commie way to save a house instead of making it a viable landmark and tourist destination. Trust me, there are plenty of dilapidated properties in Cleveland for this family to move into. -
You don't creep me out. I think what you're saying is fascinating and something that's been suspected for a long time. Please give us more to go on. I think we need our eyes opened.
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Sep 04, 2008 4:53:20 PM CDT
I will pay anyone 100$ where they can point out I've threatened
by the7returns
Oh...I know the law, so.....'interpretations' don't count. Show me , in LEGAL terms that would be acceppted in a court of law, where I threatened or stalked.
This is a public web page, I have had dealings with MR. Knowles and know what a shister he is, and anyone who's read his stuff knows what a slimebag he is.
I don't do cryptic messages. I don't feel the details of what went on need to be discussed. I CAN say that AICN holds a grusge against me for simply calling them on their BS. -
Whatever Darren. You win. I'm not gonna sit here & waste my time or yours arguing w/you on a talkback. Congrats if you really do that. If I met you in person I'd commend you for it. Oh, and you wouldn't have the balls to call be a twat to my face either I'm sure...but that's fine. That's why everyone is such a punk on AIC talkback. The anonymity on here is the problem where even two people that try to do positive things in the world can go at each other on here, huh? If you truly do those things, then the first comments were never directed at you in the first place anyway man.
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The comments about the ' instead of the g is coming from someone that has a "rulz" in their name spelled w/a "z"? Awesome.
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I'll call you a twat anytime to your face mate,it's more a term of endearment here:).
For what it's worth,I truly never meant to insult you personally,just think it's a dumb idea when there are so many other worthy causes.
P.s-how do u know my name???
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Sep 04, 2008 5:40:28 PM CDT
Looks like they won't have any problems raising the money.
by royston lodge
The Jim Lee artwork is already over $2,000, and it's only week one. I don't have enough disposable income to get in on this. If it turns out that Jerry Seinfeld wins every auction, I'll be pissed.
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Now you've gone too far.You had to push it,didn't you?You had to ruin it for everyone...;)
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... wow, what an amazing pile of shit you've emitted. I love when people show up with all these cryptic denunciations of Harry or me or whoever, but they never actually seem to follow them up with anything. Vague defamation is the best kind, since you never actually have to back it up with anything.
I'd say your own continued struggle is a sign that karma works, but you still have access to a keyboard, so maybe it doesn't work well enough. -
Love the cause or hate it, the creation of the fund is a national news story that is all over the AP wire and countless national news sources. So by all means feel free to crucify Harry for posting it on a website that is devoted to MOVIES and COMICS.
I swear, sometimes I think free speech is the biggest mistake our founding fathers ever saddled us with. They should have specified "free intelligent and at least moderately civil speech". -
SO sorry clark
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Harry isn't exactly Jenny from the Block as far as movie geeks go. He grew up not geeking out on the industry, but living in a tent pitched on the outlying borders of its home turf. He was babysat by Hollywood insiders. His family held backyard screenings. He grew up with kids like Elijah Wood.
While I think he's taking these archeological pig teeth and attempting to build a Piltdown Man out of them, I think he probably, to some lesser degree, on the money with his assault.
The problem is: who cares? If Harry Knowles is the third cousin to the step-brother of Elijah Wood (I made that up, btw), does that matter? If he's George Lucas' step-nephew (also made up), do we really care? If his father was involved in the teamsters union and their crime family associations in regards to their contracted business with major Hollywood studios (made up also, but wouldn't that be AWESOME?), does that make this site any better/worse?
The whole 'stalker' aspect reduces his issue, which may hold an ounce or two of validity, to a minor disturbance in the force. Be on notice, Harry. The retard on the phone is already in your forums. -
I'm annoyed that a comics professional is asking me to pony when they should really be paying for this all by themselves. I love Superman. Have for years. And for years I've been shelling out money to read his books and see his movies. Now I should pay more money to save a house that no longer has any connection to any members of the Siegel or Shuster families? How about Alex Ross, who has made a substantial amount of money off of Superman alone, pony up a little more cash and pay for it along with all the other pros who have used Superman to further their careers?
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Right on man! I completely agree with you. The more I think about the more pissed off I get too. Seinfeld is a HUGE Superman freak and he has, what... a BAZILLION dollars?! So where the fuck is he on this? And, like you said, all the people who have made a MINT off of Superman. Where is WB and DC??Harry screwed the pooch on this one. BIG time.
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LMAO! That shit was great! I havent laughed that hard in a while LOL!! I'll help save Lucas' childhood home! Shit. Funny stuff man.
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for being the birthplace of an American icon. Comic books have been an integral part of the longetivity and impact of genre entertainment in this country, and comic books wouldn't have survived if it weren't for the early popularity of Superman, Batman, and Captain Marvel.
I agree that it would be better for someone like Seinfeld could buy the property outright for several million, and the old couple could go retire in luxury in Boca Raton. The surrounding properties could serve as parking and a giftshop/restaurant. Bribe the hell out of corrupt Cleveland officials/the mob/land owners, gentrify Glenville, make quality low-income housing available as well, and clean up that part of town. Meltzer's charity would better serve by providing constructively creative art programs for inner-city kids. -
ser-iously. I have been laughing my asses off. for fucks sake. thanks everyone, I wish I could meet you all.
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Lest we not forget Mr Shaq O'neil. This guy could buy one of the rarest superman artifacts without even blinking. The guy has a gigantic "S" on and hanging over his bed if memory serves which both cost more than the house itself.
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Several million!? I don't think there's a house in that neighborhood worth more than 80K.
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...then I'm done. No I wasn't implying that you didn't know how to spell the word rules. I figured you had gotten that far, but it's just lame. Like the t-shirt shop that ends in "teez" because they want you to know that they're the shop that's different and has plenty of attitude. Very passe. In fact, I think the early 90s wants their "xtreme" attitude & lame spelling variations back. They no longer show individualism, but rather serve the purpose to show who the cheezenutZ are. Kinda like the square who got an earring in their left ear after everyone else already had retired theirs. I'll bet you're also the white kid that comes in the room and/or answers the phone & says "What up, yo?".
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To quote the Thursday 9-11 Cleveland Plain Dealer, "The online auctions to save the house where Jerry Siegel created Superman took off faster than a speeding bullet. Nearly three-fourths of the $50,000 goal had been raised when the first of four sets of auctions...ended last week"
Not to sound too corny, but it looks like the ordinarypeoplechangetheworld.com people will surpass their goal in a single bound. Nice job people!
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