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Carefully Hidden From The Critics, The CW’s 90210 Makes Its Two-Hour Tuesday Debut!!
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Think of the worst show you’ve ever seen – “Freakylinks”? “Carpoolers”? “The Single Guy”? – and rest assured that franchise has rabid fans within the Ain’t It Cool News readership and all around the world.
I am astonished at how many readers hold in high regard the shitfest that was Darren Star’s original “Beverly Hills 90210,” a show with such relentlessly flaccid dialogue even the combined twentysomething hotness of Jennie Garth, Kathleen Robertson, Vanessa Marcil and Tiffani Thiessen could not help me endure it for more than 10 minutes at a stretch.
Following an 8-year layoff, Garth, West Beverly Hills High and “90210” have emigrated to the CW, with a whole new batch of beautiful twentysomething actors primed to pretend they’re high school teens.
Once upon a time “Veronica Mars” mastermind Rob Thomas was to oversee the new “90210,” but when a better-paying network took an interest in two other Thomas projects, Thomas moved on. Now Gabe Sachs and Jeff Judah, who scripted a pair of “Freaks and Geeks” episodes just as the first “90210” was completing its final season, serve as the new “90210” showrunners.
Will the new show follow CW sister series “Gossip Girl” in its depiction of privileged high school teens indulging cocaine, alcohol, blowjobs and premarital fornication? Hard to say, as the CW has elected not to provide screeners or screenings of the new two-hour “90210” pilot, just as NBC failed to screen its “Knight Rider” pilot movie last February.
Take up valuable bandwidth with your predictions and reactions.
8 p.m. Tuesday. The CW.
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...that the apocalypse is upon us (well in addition to all the others).
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to say "Who gives a shit about 90210."
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There's always your Buffy DVD collection where Spike audibly unzips Buffy's pants and fucks and fingers her for an entire season. What a fine example that show set.
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Where'd I be without it???
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and its even become a parody of itself...this show will stink...and who needs teen drama when we can just watch the palin family for free...if i was a hollywood producer, i would be approaching the palin family to star in their own reality show...ratings gold
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i will only watch 90210 if Annalynne McCord's character is anything like her NIP/TUCK character, Eden Lord.
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Sep 02, 2008 3:03:25 AM CDT
Degrassi is the only teen soap that hires actual teens...
by boomers_lips
to play teen characters. that Emma Nelson sure grew up.
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Sep 02, 2008 3:05:02 AM CDT
exactly how many AICN readers hold the original in high regard?
by newc0253
because one would be too many.
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i used to watch it when i was younger. not reliously mind, just occasionally. like i watched knight rider. but since nbc fucked journeyman, i'll neer watch the shitfest that is knight rider nor 90210. you can tell its not going to be a smart show like veronica mars or wonderfalls. more like a complete pile of cack.
there is one thing i owe 90210. the fact that it allowed me to fill out internet forms and provide a zip code for.. ( uk based!) -
Dylan McKay was the best character ever. ------
DYLAN
(super intense eye-squinting whisper) "Bren." -
Steve Sanders was the best charater ever... don't make me hurt you
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Emily Valentine (Child's Play 2) had a terrific arc in the original show where she drugged Brandon and then tied him to a chair and tried to set him on fire. I'd like to see this further explored in the new series.
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So I'll give this fucker a shot. Reaper is still the best thing on that network, though.
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It's actually a lot better than I expected.Yeah, I know this is off-topic but 90210 is rubbish and the reboot is gonna be rubbisher.
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"Whether that's a good idea remains to be seen, because the network did not make the show available for preview, out of a desire, it says, to keep 'riding the curiosity and anticipation'. Hiding the show from critics doesn't necessarily mean it's awful, though that's usually where the smart money lands. Until now, there has never been a case in which a network has kept a show under wraps because it was afraid the reviews would be so good they'd spoil the surprise, but there's always a first time."
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Hey Herc, I just don't get how you can trash that show and defend Buffy. Buffy used monsters as symbols for real teenage problems. 90210 actually dealt with those problems head on those first few years. Maybe if Shannon Doherty made snarky comments in between staking vampires you'd be a fan. I hate to defend a crap show like 90210 but its 2008 man are you really going to have your Whedon hard on forever?
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I used to do homework with the TV on, so I could watch a show and then get back "to it". I had The Simpsons on, watched it, and left the TV on to do my homework, all while Dylan was hanging out surfing or someshit. Yep, accidentally somewhat watched the first episode of 90210. It wasn't till months later when I caught a new episode (after the craze had started) that I realized I had watched the very first episode. I think it also had that blonde girl - potential girlfriend - for the brother who was a drug addict or something. I don't remember and I'm glad I don't; maybe I made up plot points to fill in the blanks.
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It hired teens and pre-teens to play characters their age. Or at least, mostly did.
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Not screening the show for critics, eh CW? Yeah, you sure have a masterpiece on your hands...Can't wait for the reviews on this one.
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teens who sleep around, have no worries because they live off mommy and daddy's credit cards all the while backstabbing each other? Gee I must watch this as it's such an original concept.
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I think the attraction to Primetime soaps such as this was the on-going story lines, something that was very lacking in late 80's, early 90's TV. It can't have been the writing or acting as I recently caught a 90210 rerun and had to abandon it after a few minutes. Seeing as how I need to catch up on Mad Men, BSG, The Shield, Rescue Me, and Dexter I think I shall give this one a miss.
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without the super powers.
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But damn those girls sure are purty!
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They need to re-introduce Ray Pruett to teach Donna Martin some more lessons.
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Gets my full undivided attention. She is one of the hottest chicks on TV.
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You get killed off in the second season in order to give David's character more depth; the show goes on for another 8 years and the cast all become millionaires. Meanwhile you now work at Dairy Queen.
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Yeah, I was hooked on these shows. It was fun to watch them with my girlfriends (first few years with one, remaining years with another one). I just don't have a desire for this new series now that I am older and married with children. That, and they lamed out on adding Token.
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I was one of the few here that did not watch Freaks and Geeks. I was able to see the Pilot recently on some site. Now I want to see the entire season/series. Went to Blockbuster yesterday and they didn't have it. Kind of a bummer.
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...stay as far, far away from Blockbuster as you can. That'll solve most of your TV- and movie-watching problems.
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Which itself was a semi-ripoff of 90210. That show had a white family with a black adopted son who moved to Cali and experienced the faster life. But at least "SON" had the main character being a closeted Lesbian plot twist. 90210 just so far has nostalgia. Can it be as edgy as early Degrassi and SON?
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Sorry, but 90210 was a nighttime soap that even when dealing with real issues treated them very superficially. Some of their storylines were as much fantasy as Buffy eventhough dealing in a real universe (cults, the mob, etc.).
Although I don't have as much love about all things Buffy as Herc does, Buffy was like the ocean and 90210 was a puddle when you compared the depth of the two. 90210 was pure sugar candy. It tasted good at the time you consumed it, but later you were unsatified and felt guilty about consuming it. Personally, I would never had watched it except my girlfriend at the time loved the show and if I wanted to get laid, I had to watch it. It did provide me a guilty pleasure at the time, but it was one step up from a daytime soap. -
the difference between buffy and 90210 is simple (and it generally reflects the difference between good shows and bad). buffy = character-driven. 90210 = situation-driven. 90210 simply put its characters in situations (Steve enters a yacht race! Kelly kisses someone! etc.), as opposed to Buffy, where the stories and situations evolve from the characters themselves.
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After being carefully hidden from television audiences, 90210.v2 has been cancelled.
While all cast members were awarded severance pay, Tori Spelling was given five bucks and an Arby's coupon. -
for that one episode. I believe he had spent his summer on a ranch in Texas and came back a cowboy, which I guess made him even lamer than he was before and easier to kill off.
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90210, what are you, 5? How come there was no talkback for Prison break!
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The first 2 seaons were pretty good. I mean it started out as degrassi with an edge but slowly turned into shit. But yes the original episodes are still fun to watch.
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That does suck, the kid was a good sidekick and his name was even in the opening credits.
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Hell where's the talkback for the Hills? What about Keeping away from the Kardashians or Denise Richards; I'm constipated? Maybe we can have an Oprah/Dr. Phil talkback? Dancing with the Stars?
Aint it cool news indeed!
Good day sir!
GFY -
lets watch a show about people living normal lives cause ours are too boring to live instead. gay.
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Honestly, as good and witty as the show was,because it was about a chick at a Cali high school, automatically it had to be a chick show. That's sadly how my peers were.
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Herc,
Where's your big pilot review for the fall? I have got to set up the DVR with your predictions. Besides testing out Fringe and Dollhouse, I would be interested to see your list of shows to try out this season. I have seen a lot of those shows get cancelled (Studio 60, Fillion Lost/Race show, etc.), but it's cool to check out the shows that appeal to your geek sensibility. Please advise. -
Nathan Fillion is on The Late Late Show tonight.
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Yes, I said it. Where's the frakkin' DVD?
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And apparently there are blowjobs in the first ep - so the sex obsessed prudes at the PTC will probably have a collective bitch-fit (rewinding and reviewing to see the moral decay again and again and again)
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Anyone here (in the states) watching Skins on BBC America? That show is absolutely fantastic. 90210 v1 or v2 have nothing on it.
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How about some other town full of bimbos, morons, and idiots.
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How could they dis the glue that held the original together ? Also bring back Emily Valentine because she was the only character we could actually relate to ? I mean, who among us didn't get high on Euphoria at a high school party, get a mouthjob in the coat room from a half decent looking bitch and then find out she was bat shit crazy and days away from lighting our homecoming float on fire to prove her eternal love for us ?
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I read that somewhere.
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Don't dig the Pit though. Missing Malt Shops and Minnesota Twins jerseys.
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Put the BJ on the back burner for at least the 1st half hour.
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Why am I liking this?
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SUPERNATURAL Watch it.
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I watched the original, and I thought there was just enough oldies, but the new characters were well developed. I really cared about them! Flame me all you want.... but i will be getting laid tonite~
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He was awesome in The Wire. Played a young hitman (hitkid?) in training. Fuck this show. Let's just watch re-runs of The Wire.
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I thought he was dead. Seriously - he hasn't done a thing in 7 years. Was he just waiting for Nat's big return ? I would have thought the 90210 producers would have at least watched the original, and realized that Tata, Spelling and Carteris were standouts for suckitude even on that cringe inducing cast.
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I'd love to, but since I'm sure there's a character limit in the talkbacks, it'd take you 10 or 11 posts to give me the full list. And I'm sure you don't care enough to bother.
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I would rather have my daughter watch anything other than shows like this and the Hills. I can't believe the world we are creating.
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It's certainly no work of art, but hey, it's a teen soap on the CW. What does one expect? less GossipGirl/OC, more One Tree Hill.
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the blowjob was over in the first five minutes, and definitely not worth the hype
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The nostalgia factor is probably an inch deep. I didn't like 90201 in it's first incarnation, and this'll probably suck too.
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When is Brenda gonna go CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!
Loved it. Can't wait til next week. Blew the first series out of the water. Oh, and flymeawayguy will be a total Dick. Date rape is in your future. -
this was surprisingly not that bad.
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It got a little dusty in the attic when Brenda and Kelly had their scene in the Peach Pit together and a slow version of the old 90210 theme came on. --- Not so sure about these other kids though. The standout stars to me are the teacher and the "new" Brenda. Don't like how Brandon's black though. Brandon Walsh isn't black!
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I won't watch, but at least my man Tristan Wilds(Michael from 'The Wire) gets some work(even though he gets one 'token' line/reassuring a doubting White character when their in doubt...."Everything's gonna be okay"....aka 'THE BAGGER VANCE TREATMENT') Hey, there's not that many jobs for us brothers......Thank God for Don Cheadle!
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Shallow teen girls and immature young women. Young gays and young men who haven't yet figured out they are gay. Oh, and few boyfriends forced to watch that dreck with their idiot girlfriends
Didn't this show air opposite of the later football games on Sundays? -
... if you watched it, you were one of the above. Just saying that's who it was made for and who made up most of the audience.
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Who the fuck is it supposed to star? It's like the producers are trying to go with as many plots/stars and see which ones "click" with the audience.
The chick from Degrassi needs acting lessons - squinting, sort of smiling and looking confused which she did constantly is not acting. -
Because of the CUBS last night. I had to hit a bunch of shows to DVR to make sure it's on there for tonight. On TMZ Shannon forgot it was on today. Shows how important it is to her.
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I may be on my own here, so what. The original was idiotic. Perfect rich kids leading the perfect prime-time soap opera life. The cast was in their 30's playing late teens. And combine that with talentless, lantern-jawed hacks like Tori Spelling and it adds up to an idiotic show. There was nothing impressive about the whole thing. Now, they make a sequel? Define a generation my ass. It defines prime time schlock and shit acting.
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The original 90210 came out at the same time as the original Degrassi, and many up here in the Great White North regarded it as a Holywood attempt to replicate the Degrassi formula. This time around, they ACTUALLY went so far as hiring a Degrassi actress. For shame...
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When I was a freshman, the television rooms on the female floors of my dorm were PACKED every 90210 night. It was MASSIVE. It was friggin' creepy. I heard some engineering students tried to patch in to the central cable line in the elevator shaft in order to pipe some porno in on 90210 night when all the girls had their eyes glues to West Bev High. I dunno if they ever pulled it off.
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Here were the half-hour breakdowns:
8-8:30: 4.2/7
8:30-9: 4.0/6
9-9:30: 3.8/6
9:30-10: 3.7/6
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after each 1/2 hour. Not a huge drop but enough to show that several who started with the show didn't stick it out to the end.
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I did like "The Single Guy." Much better than the average sitcom of the era... or even of the right-now. Certainly it was superior to, say, "Madman of the People" or some of the other crap shoveled at us during that time period. Hell, for all the work they put into that "Joey" spinoff, it still wound up being weaker than The Single Guy by a sizable margin.
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It wasn't a better paying network that took him off the project...The CW wanted an edgier show with drugs, sex, and all that typical high school stuff....
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that spelling and others tried to buy the american rights to degrassi...and ctv wouldnt sell...so spelling made his own version, and the guys who produced saved by the bell made theirs...neither which touched the quality of the original degrassi...
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the original degrassi came out in the early 80s, it was called Kids of Degrassi Street...then came Degrassi Junior High which evolved into Degrassi High, all in the mid to late 80s. by the time 90210 came, Degrassi was pretty much dead. all that said, they all sucked muchly but yeah.
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I was sure Degrassi started around the time I left High School (which is why I never got into it). I looked it up and Junior High began in '87. The series ended in 1991. The movie "School's Out" was in 1992. Beverly Hills 90201 began in 1990. So there was a bit of overlap.
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a turd floating back up from the flush. Well, un-originality is back again on TV.
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The history between the shows is that Spelling wanted to by Degrassi and move it to the US but was denied by everyone involved with Degrassi and so Spelling and Star created 90210.
Depending on what happens to the new 90210 (which I thought was really good) it was the smart move by the Degrassi people cause Degrassi Next Gen is popular not only in Canada but in the US as well.
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I loved the Kelly and Brenda reunion. I could just tell they hate each other IRL. The girls are hot and they don't look like 16 year olds either unless there really is something in the milk. I can't wait to see who Kelly's kid daddy is...Dylan? Brandan? Time will tell. Nothing else on anyway til Smallville comes back.
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lol i totally agree... but not just any turd, a really ugly boring turd with no imagination and nothing to make it noteworthy...like corn in it....lol
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the no screening of the episode was predictable from my standpoint...when u put out a cheesey preview that makes everyone go blah....then u realize how much of a steaming turd u got that u go out of your way to BEG people that were in the original to come back....i swear i must have fell off my chair in a stream of vomit when i heard that tori spelling didnt want to appear because she wanted more money....is she fucking kidding...most of, wait, all of the old stars have no careers now...they should be gettin paid with a big mac and not complain...dont like it ? go on dancing with the has-been stars...another steaming turd
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she has her own reality show with her husband. For some reason people watch it so they keep making more shows. But that aside, wtf does she need with MORE money. She's was on a hit show for 10 years and is Aaron Spelling's daughter. This chick craps money and she wants to be given more? Don't listen to me, I'm just bitter because I'm poor and all I had for dinner was eggs.
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Tried watching it tonight and could only stay tuned through the first hour. It is apparent that the producers just decided that it would be easier to just give EVERY SINGLE GIRL on the show the exact same personality but then give them different outfits and hope that flies. Heres the popular bitch, heres the drama class bitch. Heres the gay guy with a video camera bitch. Try harder folks. I was ashamed to see Rob Thomas' name attached to the credits for this.
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Where was all the blunt negativity regarding the original show in earlier posts, when "Veronica Mars Mastermind Rob Thomas" was attached to it?
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Writing was terrible and show is almost unwatchable.
Are kids really this annoying these days?
Are they that pretty?
I fast-forwarded my Tivo through the second hour.
Best part was the Kelly/Brenda reunion.
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