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UPDATED!! SciFi Says GALACTICA Still Slated To Return In January!!

UPDATE! SciFi execs tell that the report over on Galactica SitRep is in error; the final 10 episodes of "Battlestar Galactica" will begin airing in January as planned. Find Scifiwire's report here. Original post:

I am – Hercules!!
Are you ready to wait till June or even July to see how "Battlestar Galactica" ends? Aaron Douglas, who plays Galen Tyrol on the series, just told DragonCon attendees he’s heard that fans may not see a new episode till April of next year, according to the fan site Galactica SitRep. This contradicts comments made at July’s TCA event by SciFi exec David Howe, who said Laura Roslin, the Adamas and their Cylon friends were slated to return in January. The news also suggests that the Cylon-centric flashback TV-movie scripted by Jane Espenson may hit SciFi before the final 10 regular episodes do. Read all of SitRep’s story on the matter here.

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  • Sept. 1, 2008, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Hammer Fall

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    you *know* bonnie hammer is behind this

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 7:49 p.m. CST


    by reddwarfcas

    Hope this is not true.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 7:49 p.m. CST

    What year?

    by Shaw

    This is getting ridiculous

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Don't even joke, Shaw

    by chrth

    I thought April was the rumor way back when anyhow? Frak.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I have seen the first ep

    by secretcylon

    of the last 10. Best BSG episode in a looooong time. Have also seen Caprica which is unbelievable. It is dark, and haunting, and great, and awesone and...

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:04 p.m. CST

    As Darth Vader once said,

    by RaveX


  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Shaw, please don't give them ideas...

    by br1947

    the bastards might just do it... SciFi hasn't figured out how to screw this one up yet

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:08 p.m. CST

    no way

    by JLo

    there's no reason for a delay this time.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:09 p.m. CST


    by theagonists

    They will get leaked to the internet soon, then to punish Mr Moors for such an asshat move, nobody will watch them when they air. Not that they will admit that it was a mistake.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:11 p.m. CST

    What a joke this has become

    by Mr.Meanie

    I'll just wait for 2011 for the DVD release.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Doesn't surprise me.

    by mrfan

    Sci-Fi will probably find a way to string it out. Maybe make mini episodes out of each hour. As soon as it breaks for a commercial then we have to wait another week.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:21 p.m. CST

    "We Hate You"

    by snowpuff

    Sci Fi's new slogan for their channel.<br> <br> Some of the rejected slogans:<br> <br> "Hey Viewers, Fuck You"<br><br> "Wait Until the Complete Episodes and/or Storylines Leak Onto the Internet"<br><br> "Ha Ha, Assholes!"

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST


    by fiester

    If they're finished, why this ridiculously long delay?

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Tag! Your it Eureka!

    by Ironmuskrat

    Let hope Eureka can hold down the fort while Sci-Fi strings out BSG fans like heroin addicts.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Doubleyou Tee Eff

    by bigbaldpapa

    What can you do though. I guess if I have to wait, I have to wait.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Questions for secretcylon ...

    by Shan

    I remember from a previous talkback that you said (as did Aaron Douglas in an interview) that all the guesses for the 5th/final Cylon "were not even close". <p> As, at various times people have guessed: <p> Every major character <p> Every minor character <p> Every dead character <p> Characters never seen before <p> A new character we've never even heard of before <p> One of the 11 Cylons we've already seen <p> Inanimate objects (Starbuck's Viper, The Galactica, Pegasus etc) <p> "Wonderful Gaseous Helium" <p> Various other answers covering every possible configuration of matter, be it into a live being or other object <p> It's a trick and there's actually only 11 Cylons <p> On this basis, how can absolutely no-one be even close? <p> My second question is about Simon. Why have they always given him so little screen time and are they likely to rectify this in any way by the end of the show - or at the very least in the Cylon centric movie coming out? Currently, I'm sure you could have redistributed his entire role amongst the other eleven? On a related note, will Doral who has all but disappeared get some more time as well? <p> Finally, any chance that we'll ever see one shot where we have all twelve Cylons in the same place at the same time?

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:40 p.m. CST

    They could do like Tartakovky's Clone Wars

    by punto

    and spread the 40 minutes of each episode over 1 season, and sprinkle it in between their 24 hours of reality tv crap.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:45 p.m. CST

    No gay

    by eric haislar

    this is lame

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Boo Hooo BSG sucks

    by dioxholster

    just like Spielberg says. happy to see that turd get flushed

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:50 p.m. CST

    snowpuff & Shan

    by codymr

    LOL! you guys crack me up

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 8:51 p.m. CST

    If This Is True...

    by dictatordaniel

    All I have to say then is fuck you Sci-Fi. You sure know how to make fans of your shows hate you.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Which will be first? BSG or Moffat's Who?

    by jccalhoun

    At this point I'm betting we'll see the first Doctor Who episode with Moffat in charge before we see the last episode of BSG. <br><br>The have 10 or so episodes left and I wouldn't put it past them to air them over an entire year and milk it for all it is worth.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 9:02 p.m. CST

    How its going to breakdown

    by ClumsyPuppy

    5 episodes in 2009, 3 in 2010, 1 in 2011 and then they'll continue splitting the last episode over the next 30 years.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST

    the final episode BSG (spoilers)

    by dioxholster

    (spoilers) starbuck kills herself.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 9:36 p.m. CST

    some BSG spoilers

    by dioxholster

    starbuck has a threesome with some guy and another guy who might be a cyclon but might not who cares no difference anyway, it was great sex thats all that matters.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    *sigh* do I even care anymore?

    by MurderMostFowl

    I was a rabid fan... I guess I still am. I was going around with my own DVD-R's of the miniseries when it came on and forcing all my friends and family to watch it, I was that much of a fan. Now, I am just so sick of being teased by these stupid split seasons. It's split up too much to care even.. it's just enough episodes to get you really interested and then... nothing. Pointless and foolish. Does the scifi channel think I will accidently leave the TV on and watch Mansquito, or Mega-Croc VII or something if they continue to do this? What you think you're gaining in the short term, scifi tv execs, you are losing in the long term.. . after BSG was over you would have had a fan hungry for something else, but instead you've drawn this out so long, I'm basically just staying for the end and then I've got a plane to catch.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST


    by Scuzzy

    Let's flush any momentum gained by the mid-season finale completely down the toilet and make people wait an entire year. Wads of money thrown at Ron Moore to re-work the finale so they can do another couple of seasons? The show is still good. Let it go out while it's still good and put this thing down the beginning of next year.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Just wait and see...Stargate Universe shall redeem

    by dioxholster

    isnt that the reason for its conception. who know it might turn out to be cooler than that wheels of fortune galagtica crap.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:01 p.m. CST

    How is this Scifi Channel's fault?

    by Lord John Whorfin

    Explain this to those of us who don't know why you're blaming the channel.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:03 p.m. CST

    SG Universe will die quick

    by MurderMostFowl

    I was a fan of SG and even enjoyed SG:A, but it became clear around the middle of the 3rd season for SG:A that the writers had all gotten Star Trek Writer's syndrome... they had been out of ideas for a year already and don't know how to make a meaningful characters or long lasting story arc. Last season they get freaking Sam Carter into the mix and they can't think of a single thing to write for her? Nothing!? So we had SG== ST:TNG and we have SG:A == ST:DS9 and so now we are literally repeating the pattern by setting up the exact same story arc as ST:Voyager 100 credits says that there is a mysterious alien and a lovable sidekick within the first 4 episodes.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:08 p.m. CST

    oh and firefly...

    by MurderMostFowl

    Gotta say, I was extremely late to the party on that. I just watched the whole series on, and really wish I watched it before it was cancelled. That show, while not the direct words of god spoken into your ear like some fans would have you think, was a solid Universe with inspired casting and just a wonderful breath of fresh air. I'm actually very disappointed that the show was canceled. I think I've only been more disappointed by Arrested Development getting canceled, which is a funny coincidence since Nathan Fillion bares more than a passing resemblance to Jason Bateman.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST

    MurderMostFowl...Sam Carter thing was premature

    by dioxholster

    they werent prepared for it, and yeah i hardly noticed her presence in that season. i guess they only did that to ttract SG-1 viewers thats all. season 3 wasnt bad but i felt it had alot of stand-alone episodes though than usual.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:12 p.m. CST


    by NoHubris

    You could be on to something. Plans by Sci Fi to extend the show more seasons is the only logical explanation, unless Glenn Larson finally released theatrical rights and they are holding the final episodes to build up the audience for the theatrical movie.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:13 p.m. CST

    This is assuming CAPRICA doesn't get bumped, too.

    by Booster Gold Lives

    At this rate, SciFi will decide to re-imagine, bastardize, write, shoot, and air (and then cancel) BUCK ROGERS before they air the last BG eps. Whoever does their programming should be taken out and bludgeoned repeatedly with something heavy.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:17 p.m. CST


    by WerePlatypus

    I just don't get it. . . why on earth would you possibly delay this? Are the ad dollars bigger somehow next summer as opposed to January/February? Is it some issue with making more $$$ with DVD sales? I would expect the executives ar Sci-Fi would want to make as much cash off of this as they could, but I really, really don't get it.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:41 p.m. CST

    you'd better pray this is more of your bullshit herc

    by floatybrownthing

    cause I'm gonna fucking hunt you down if it isn't.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:47 p.m. CST

    fuck BSG sci fi good,

    by dioxholster

    no actually sci fi sucks now but BSG sucks more

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 10:47 p.m. CST

    I hear the delay is because....

    by TVguy4566

    They are having trouble securing the rights for Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'" for the final sequence. Heck, since they are apparently stealing The Soprano's season schedules, why not steal their ending too?<br><br> As much as I love that the cable networks are putting out better programming than a lot of the network shows, I can't stand that they do not adhere to a standard season schedule with huge breaks in between season and even between the first half and second half of a season. It's ridiculous.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:01 p.m. CST

    I hear the delay is because...

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    They are attempting to get the movie rights, yep the bigscreen. Either to leave it open for a movie sequel or to show the finale on the silver or pixel screen.<p><p><p>Just a randon guess.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:01 p.m. CST

    What the heck is a "randon guess"?

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Makes ZERO sense

    by aboriginal

    WTF!?! How can something like this get so drawn out. Not even HBO's this bad. What does a SciFi exec think to make this make sense in their world? Speak and lemme understand the words that're comin' outta your mowf.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST

    I always thought the final cyclon is a hive mind of the 11.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Earth is the final cylon!

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:14 p.m. CST

    I think I have already stopped caring.

    by erydan

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:20 p.m. CST

    So, is the answer...

    by Lord John Whorfin

    that there's no real reason you blame the Sci-fi Channel, other than your ire needs a target, and the channel is a big fat one? Seriously, nobody can answer the question? How is this Sci-fi's fault?

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    I'd kill it with fire

    by There Are Twelve Models

    but that would interrupt a loud, sleepy yawn at this news. Wanna take bets on how soon the eps leak?

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:30 p.m. CST


    by FookU

    It's not Ron Moore's fault. He has nothing to do with the scheduling. Blame SciFi for this boneheaded move.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Lord John

    by Adelai Niska

    This is scifi's fault because the episodes are done. They could show them, right now, without any delay, but choose to draw it out.

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Lord John Whorfin

    by FookU

    SciFi is the channel that airs the show. The show has wrapped filming already and could be aired much sooner than April of next year. In fact, it could most likely be aired in the fall however SCiFi channel chosen to delay it. How do you not understand these simple concepts?

  • Sept. 1, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Didn't we kind of expect this?

    by Badass_Harry_Callahan

    You knew there was no way they would not try to stretch it out as long as possible. This is the network that brings us Man_Ape and Lake Placid 2. Lake Placid 2 was so bad it had to go to SciFi Channel before going direct to DVD. Return of the living dead 4 & 5 did the same thing and boy did they suck. Still I love this show and don't really want it to end so I am OK, with this. Even though it is quite clear who the final Cylon is and it WILL piss us all off.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:06 a.m. CST

    The only way ...

    by TheHumanBeingAndFish

    Yeah, I used to be a big fan as well. But the way I see it now, the only way in which the utter tripe that was seaon 4.0 can possibly be salvaged is if the final cylon is who/whatever the cylons refer to as "god". Please don't tell meI had to sit through all of that religious drivel for nothing.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Delay = killing interest

    by jsm1978

    Good way to lose viewers... some people will just give up on waiting, or completely forget what was happening in the first place. These split seasons, and then splitting the seasons on dvd, are just ridiculous.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:14 a.m. CST

    it all Depends on Stargate Universe now

    by dioxholster

    mess or hit. i see no other upcoming show that will make this channel worthy of our attention

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:20 a.m. CST


    by secretcylon

    I remember the post you are referring to. What I meant to say was that on the current thread or topic that I was reading at the time, no one was guessing the right person. Obviously, if someone where to guess EVERY chracter then of course they would have "guessed" it. It's just that at that point, I hadn't noticed anyone guessing it right. I only post and engage in talkbacks on this site so there could be another site where people have it all figured out. I'm just very excited for people to see these episodes but at the same time I don't want to spoil anyone out of respect to the people making the show and to those who haven't seen the episodes yet. That being said, I can tell you that I've seen NOTHING regarding Simon the cylon. Although I do suspect he will have an important roll to play considering the events of Season 2. Also, when I said that the first ep of the last 10 was so good, it had nothing to do with any reveals or surprises, it's just that the show is beginning to recapture some of that season 1-2-mini-series magic in terms of tone and epic mythology. And Caprica just plain rules.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Shan, also

    by secretcylon

    Don't know about seeing all the models together. It's VERY frustrating to me that the world would have to wait this long when there are finished eps (well one at least) just hanging aroud.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:42 a.m. CST

    The enemy is SciFi channel

    by V'Shael

    Never forget that.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:43 a.m. CST

    i liked the threesome though

    by dioxholster

    more threesomes please because thats all i want from a space sci fi show. threesomes.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:54 a.m. CST

    But how...

    by Lord John Whorfin

    do you KNOW this to be true? What's your source? I realize that logic may follow that Sci-fi is at fault, but I'm just curious to how you've formed this opinion. So, far, I've seen nothing that makes it fact. Are they truly, right now, ready to air? And if yes, how do you know? I have problems with the Sci-fi Channel, as they canceled Farscape and pooped out Flash Gordon, so I'm not defending them or anything, I'm just curious.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Well fuck me...

    by CMBat


  • Sept. 2, 2008, 1:14 a.m. CST


    by cineninja

    all these delays have really killed my enthusiasm...Sci Fi Channel is incapable of making good decisions so this doesnt surprise me. I hope they read these talkbacks and realize that there are a lot of folks that are ceasing to care due to their ineptitude and poor decisions.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    what will happen to caprica? (beware spoilers)

    by dioxholster

    i heard that after a wet t-shirt contest reveals who the next cyclon is, it self-detonates and releases toxic gases that turns caprica's citizens into sex crazed nudists. (end of spoilers)

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 4:36 a.m. CST

    Season 5

    by Spidermonkee

    You know, once upon a time, when a series aired a string of episodes ending in a finale, and then went off the air for a year and a half, you would call the new episodes a new season, not the second half of the season that started 2 years ago but nobody remembers. Hell, you might even call it a special reunion miniseries. Not "the last half of season 4", but "Return To Galactica".

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 6:48 a.m. CST

    BSG to crossover with Wrestling! Coming to SciFi!

    by V'Shael

    Honest to god, how fucking retarded does a rumour have to be before this site refuses to run with it?

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Fuck Sci-Fi.

    by teethgnasher

    I always say that.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Great Idea!

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Let's only release an episode a year. We can drag this out for another decade and not have to film another frame! <p> Brilliant! <p> Fuck Sci Fi!

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Thanks secretcylon ...

    by Shan

    So, would it at least be fair to say that the Final/5th Cylon is like ... well ... a person and not something more esotoric? That shouldn't be too much of a spoiler I hope - and the only other thing I'd like to know at the moment if I'm not pushing my luck - a live person?

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 7:37 a.m. CST

    such a joke

    by Judge Briggs

    not like you keep this show in the fridge while it marinates... just put out the damn thing!

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 7:54 a.m. CST


    by secretcylon

    A person...

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 8:04 a.m. CST

    I was at the panel he said that

    by WickedWing

    And James Callis (Gaius Baltar) said that the Sci-Fi channel couldn't market water to a man in the desert. The cast was very negative about how Sci-Fi had been handling Battlestar, and were pretty pissed off at it all.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Also Shan,

    by secretcylon

    By the time the episode is over, the 5th will not even rank amongst your top concerns. That's the best thing about it. Moore and co. put the whole guessing game to rest and bring you back to caring about the characters and the show. Just quality stuff. (imo) Oh, and I love Caprica very much.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    To be honest secretcylon ...

    by Shan

    ... Every time the show has gone off the air in the last few years, I've all but completely forgotten about it. A major reason is as listed above, the wretched scheduling. <p> The major thing that (at least partially) killed the show for me are the characters of Helo and Athena who I now extremely loathe (and yes, I can separate that from the actors who play them). <p> I can't say I liked the characters of Jammer or Ellen Tigh all that much but Jammer, I especially identified with because I think that would be the character I would have been most like. Desperately trying to do what I thought was the right thing, making a mess of it and getting punished for it. We got to see that play out over quite a lot of screen time (mainly the webisodes) and how it got him shot out of an airlock with the people responsible not knowing nor seeing the reasoning and struggle of his decision - nor would they have cared for the most part at the time anyway. That was much like real life can be time and time again. Those parts of the show can be done well. <p> However, Helo and Athena get free passes for anything and everything they do with no or disproportiately light consequences for their actions again and again and again. The audience can buy a lot of things in the context of this universe including the mysticism but this is one thing I've seen that a lot of people cannot. When Athena shot Natalie for reasons that can be best described as "spurious" I think a lot of people threw up their hands after the penalty turned out to be go stand in a corner for a short while before we act like nothing has happened. As a general rule, I think at least some of us would like something approaching consistency in terms of behaviour in how characters are treated for their actions. <p> Helo started off as a noble (though naive if not actually slightly thick character) to ending up so dense I was worried he was going to collapse into a neutron star. Such arguments as to why his wife couldn't possibly turn on the Colonials because "she said so" - well that's convincing. It went downhill from there. Especially when it gets increasingly obvious that the way the character is played has shown multiple instances of putting herself first before everyone - including Helo. <p> I think another talkbacker summed up perfectly how I felt in one of the early 4th Season talkback when he said something along the lines of "I want to keep enjoying this show but why is it now feeling like watching it is like doing homework?".

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST

    So are Adama and Roselyn...

    by papa_palpatine

    The Adam and Eve characters in the cave... oh shit, thats something else. It's been so long since I have had my BSG I am mixing up series. And just to be sure, Lee doesn't have a secret government super computer in his brain and is protected by a semi-hot blonde and Jayne right? Off to buy the dvd's for me...

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Must agree with erydan

    by Jason B. Swaim

    My apathy grows more and more every announcement they make.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Tyler Durden is the Final Cylon ...

    by Shan

    ... and he's right there - in your head.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST

    If true, SciFi network deserves to have the conclusion spoiled

    by smudgewhat

    seriously. it's like they're deliberately messing with the fans. i feel bad for Ron Moore b/c HE certainly doesn't deserve to have his show's ending spoiled, but SciFi does.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST


    by secretcylon

    Everything you're saying is valid and I can't really argue with any of it. I'm just going with the whole "We've become a gang" angle to rationalize the inconsistencies and lack of Athena justice. My friend and I have a running joke regarding Helo: Ice Cream. Adama keeps a secret stash of ice cream aboard the Galactica that no one gets to have but Helo. Shot your wife? Here's some Ice cream son. Didn't wanna kill the cylons? Have some ice cream Poor Helo, has to go on the demetrius, make sure he has plenty of ice cream! And a little part hat too! Talk back to the president? Ice Cream!!! Poor little Helo. Turn your back on all the 8's? Don't worry Athena still loves you, oh and here's some ice cream. Adama walking around the galactica all solemn with a helo Sunday in his hand, etc. There is a scene in the new ep that encompasses everything in your last post, helo and athena having a great time, etc. I'm sure they'll get theirs though. Moore wouldn't set up this situation without addressing it. I have faith.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST


    by Audio_of_Being

    Imagine if ABC shelved a finished season of Lost for almost a year? Same with FOX and 24, or CBS with....Ok there's nothing really worth watching on CBS....<P>My point is, no other network could get away with doing this to their top rated shows, so why is Sci-FI being douches about it? Because they're a speciality channel? Because their ratings aren't in the high millions? Because they use a collection of hamster wheels rolling across a giant calendar and where the hamsters stop on said calendar is when they air the show? It is getting betond annoying and mindboggling having to put up with this. Oh well, only 11 more hours of TV time 'til I stop caring about this.<P>And for the record, the final cylon is the Starboard Flightpod on the Galactica. It let those Cylon's on the ship a little <i>too</i> easily in the episode Scattered.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST


    by secretcylon


  • Sept. 2, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Well, various mystics said ...

    by Shan

    ... All of this has happened before and all of this has happened again, which means that Athena should be chucking herself off a cliff at some point - and that's not a spoiler because I don't know anything, I'm just speculating from prior information in the show. <p> I always was a Doctor Who fan from decades back but I felt that BSG was initially more consistently better to start with than the new Doctor Who episodes on at the same time. It didn't escape my attention that for me personally, a point came where I was enjoying Doctor Who a lot more than BSG. Yes, various inanities abounded in Doctor Who (have always done so) but I always found it fun. BSG started becoming too much work and I was starting to watch it out of a grim sense of obligation. <p> I will be watching the last 10 episodes but I won't really be anticipating it like I did the show a few years ago. Primarily I would blame that on scifi stretching the whole show out far too long between blocks of episodes. <p> Athena as a character doesn't really make any sense to me unless she's a sleeper agent, even from herself where she thought she was running out on the experiment on Caprica but in fact was continuing it for the other Cylons - after all they completely rewrote Boomer's mind. Sadly, I see insufficient evidence of this being true. There could be supernatural manipulation but that's different. <p> Boomer was another storyline that seems to have been crashed. There was a marked jump in the character going from pro-peace/compromise to destroy all humans. I know there was a fair chunk of her storyline deleted but it rendered her character rather wasted, which is a shame given that it was once a major character. <p> Other dud bits concerning Athena included her telling Adama that she didn't have any hidden sleeper commands (by pulling a gun on her no less). How would she know? That's why they call them "hidden sleeper commands" (see Encyclopedia Galactica under Boomer). Really one part of the show that took a major logic bypass. <p> Well, thanks for taking the time to talk to us about the upcoming show a bit more with us. Much appreciated ...

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    By pulling a gun on HIM I mean ...

    by Shan

    ... HIM = Adama *sigh*

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Does anyone watch that tub of shit?

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Don't Frak With Us, Chief

    by frakthetoasters

    We have to wait longer? Give us more Galactica, dammit.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Lord John

    by Werthead

    In the last few weeks various people behind the scenes - writer/producers Jane Espenson and Mark Verheiden, composer Bear McCreary, CGI creator Mojo, various actors - have confirmed that filming for the show was finished around the 12th of August and the final batch of episodes are now in post. On his blog McCreary reports he is now scoring the last four episodes and the CGI guys are reporting they're nearly finished as well. Producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick have been cutting the last few eps and have found there is enough material to extend the finale to three episodes, which has been done. Post on a modern TV drama, even an effects-heavy one, shouldn't take any more than a week per episode. So the finale should be complete, with CGI and music in place and the final cut in the can in the next few weeks at the absolute latest. If they started showing the next episode tomorrow, they would still be able to complete post on the remainder of Season 4.5 with weeks to spare. What makes this all the more inexplicable is that it has been suggested that the finale is Emmy-worthy, but by pushing the season back to April the final 3-4 eps will miss the Emmy nominations period, so that explanation is out. The only hopeful thing is that the last official word from a Sci-Fi Channel exec was that Season 4.5 would air first or second week of January (I think it was even specified to around the 9th), whilst this latest report seems to be a rumour circulating around the actors. Let's hope they're wrong and the SFC sticks to its original date. Or Sky One in the UK hear about this and say, "Fuck that," and show the season as planned in January, which they have the power to do since they cofunded the series in the past (unless they want to piss off the SFC so they don't get Caprica).

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 12:41 p.m. CST


    by Werthead

    That's "Don't want to piss off the SFC."

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 1:23 p.m. CST

    They are advertising the dvd's of season 4...

    by ahdvd

    as 'the complete fourth season' even though it will only be the 10 episode's aired, this is how they are stretching the show out over 'five' seasons, by splitting 4 in half. Sci fi does this, and cancels stargate altoghether, in the same year, cheap bastards!

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    At this point, all I care about...

    by PotSmokinAlien that they air the last chunk of episodes without any further breaks between them. Whenever this fucking thing hits the air, every week I want to be able to count on there being a new one on, until there are no new ones left to be on. That will make me happy.<P>That and the end of the show not being a total copout, of course.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    I'm a big fan but at this point really don't care

    by GreatCzarsGhost

    The best way to screw up the ending is to drag it out for so long that by the time the last episode is aired we have all moved on to other shows. This is also making it harder for us to move to the new Caprica show.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    A million deaths are not enough for SciFi.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    That being said, I'll be there with bells on for the premier. I'll have a chip on my shoulder about the possible delay but I'll be there. Frakkin' programming execs...

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST Calls Bullshit

    by _Maltheus_

    It'll be back in January.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    _Maltheus_, web pages can be changed...

    by ckane123

    If the SF execs decide to push back the air date, they can do that. I was at that panel Sunday when Aaron brought up the date and trust me, he wasn't BS-ing us. He was pissed. So was James Calllis. They are DONE with the show, save for the DVD movie that Eddie Olmos is working on with the cast. Supposedly Eddie had DVDs of the first six of the remaining episodes WITH HIM at the con so he can work on story ideas for the movie whenever he could. These actors want the show back so the fans can watch it. They want it back so that we can see them and their WORK. Ron Moore is probably even MORE frustrated. Betcha ten bucks that if the ate is pushed back, Ron Moore himself will spoil the whole damn thing "accidentally".

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Rumor Debunked, Show Returns Jan 09

    by fedrich519

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Thank you, fedrich519

    by Heckles

    I was about to bitch and complain like never before.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 6:09 p.m. CST

    BSB back in January 09.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Frakkin' A.<P>Steady on then.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 6:09 p.m. CST

    That should read "BSG".

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Bloody typos.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Video evidence on CNN of the Fifth Cylon:

    by Arch Nemesis

    Not CNN anchor or the stuffy former rebublican national committee chairman Jim Nicholson....look in the background at the stage. THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION IS THE FINAL CYLON.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Post production anyone?

    by The7Returns

    I know they have frak-ked with us in the past, but they just wrapped shooting in July, they're prob still in post on the final eps at least.

  • Sept. 2, 2008, 8:36 p.m. CST

    January it is then

    by The7Returns

    Thankfully I have football to get me by.

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 3:44 a.m. CST

    dioxholster - you're citing Spielberg?!?

    by irishraidersfan

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Director of Crystal Skull says BSG is crap - oh noes! Spielberg is now a dreadful has-been. And you think StarGate is better? You, sir, are without a clue.

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    What, so now we're supposed to be GRATEFUL?

    by V'Shael

    That SciFi is still holding the second half of the season until NEXT YEAR? <p> A kick in the nuts is better than two kicks in the nuts, but I'm not gonna thank you for it.

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    MNG: Dammit, you got my thoughts up

    by chrth

    I thought BSB wasn't going to post here until January! ;)

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    HA! Sorry buddy. And did you mean your "thoughts" or your "hopes"?

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Ever get the feeling that ...

    by Shan

    ... they wanted to push the date back to April 2009 and they floated the idea as a "leak" to gauge the reaction? Being as poorly received as it was, of course we get this 'clarification'.

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    MNG: Yeah, I meant "hopes"

    by chrth

    Don't know what I was hoping when I wrote that

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Emmy worthy?

    by Lord John Whorfin

    Who said this about the finale?

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 4:22 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Now worries. Somehow, I understand...

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    "No" -- not "Now"

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ugh. It must be contagious.

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    So, the episodes, then...

    by Lord John Whorfin

    are not actually finished, as many people here have claimed. If they wrapped filming three weeks ago, there's no way they'd be ready for the fall television season. And there's a mini-series sometime before the year is out? Sounds like January is the logical time for the rest of the season to come out, then. Here's my next question: why is the filming schedule for BSG so strange? Why wasn't season 4 finished in time to end last spring?

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Lord was the strike

    by The7Returns

    The strike interrupted the shooting schedule, that's why it didn't wrap sooner.

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 6:39 p.m. CST

    The strike...

    by Lord John Whorfin

    okay, sure, I can see that. But hasn't BSG had a history of production interruptions and bizarre scheduling throughout its run? I think the last episode, despite how I feel about the quality of the last season and a half, was a good way to end the season. Almost Farscape-esque, actually.

  • Sept. 3, 2008, 6:57 p.m. CST

    I think they wanted to push it back...

    by ckane123

    ...and the reaction on line (and to the SF channel via other media) to the "leak" was so quick and so negative they had to backpeddle and put out the statement. Aaron Douglas sure as heck didn't seem to be "intentionally leaking" this when he expressed his frustration about it on Sunday. We may never know (until, perhaps, Olmos, Moore or someone else on the show puts out a biography).

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Lord John, you just HAD

    by Cartagia

    to bring up Farscape didn't you? To reiterate everything that has been said so far. FUCK SFC. Fuck Bonnie "I don't like space shows" Hammer. And Fuck all the reality bullshit they put on.<br><br> Once Galactica is over I'm going back on my SFC boycott. I dig some Eureka, but its not enough for me to watch the network. After the crap they pulled with Farscape I completely removed SFC from all traces of my mind. I took it off my cable tuner and everything. I only started watching it again when they aired The Peacekeeper Wars, which, while aired on SFC was not an SFC production. The Henson Co. funded it without the aid of the "Sci-Fi Crushing" Hammer.<br><br> And sure, BSG has had a screwy schedule, but the schedule is always dictated by one of two things, long planning in advance by the network, or the crews finishing the shows just fast enough to get it on the air (the second half of Lost last season is a prime example). Sure the entire season isn't in the can, but they could beginning airing next month (maybe earlier) and show one episode a week until the show was over if they did not stop production.

  • Sept. 4, 2008, 9:29 p.m. CST

    This has all happened before...

    by thewizardofoz will happen again.