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Tonight:
Don and Duck attempt to make peace at the office; Peggy tries to find a way to participate in the high-level after-hours meetings being held by the executives; one of Duck's family members visits his office.
Next Sunday:
Don steps up in class and purchases a new set of wheels that is more appropriate for a big-time executive; Pete, Harry and Ken put their heads together to land new accounts; a serious error by Don's secretary could reflect poorly on Joan; the staff reacts to the new objet d'art in Cooper's office.
The One After:
Father Gill tries to convince Peggy to volunteer her talents to a church project; Duck and Don team to woo a foreign-beer client by marketing to a new demographic; Harry turns to an unlikely source for help when his department is overloaded with work.
Titles for season two:
2.1 For Those Who Think Young
2.2 Flight One
2.3 The Benefactor
2.4 Three Sundays
2.5 The New Girl
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2.7 The Gold Violin
2.8 A Night To Remember
2.9 Six Month Leave
2.10 The Inheritance
2.11 The Jet Set
2.12 The Mountain King
2.13 Meditations on an Emergency
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On any television program these past two years.
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Are more literary than half the shit out there. Seriously, it's amazing what gets on air these days, but shows like this make it all worthwhile. What would Don Draper do?- It has become my motto, nay- a way of life. His attitude is the one we all shall seek to emulate and embody.
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It really is better than most anything out there. WWDDD indeed.
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My new hero after last week. Also, "Meditations on an Emergency" is just an all-around good title.
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I really don't think he's someone you should be emulating. He's an incredibly sad, empty, seeking individual that I wouldn't be surprised if he ultimately kills himself in the series finale. Don't get me wrong, I think he wants to be good, and have good intentions (at least in regard to his children), but he's done a lot of awful things. Not just to other people, but you can see it's starting to wear on himself too. Or does everyone want to be a successful bigomist, who drinks at work, but hates himself?
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yes. yes, we do.
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Really.
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I suppose it's not unusual though that more people would choose money and sex over happiness though.
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Very thoughtful, you raise excellent points. Just shows what a great show "Mad Men" truly is.
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is this a new character?
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I agree that Mad Men is a good show; it's well written and well acted. However, the one thing it's missing, in my opinion, is any likable characters. EVERYONE in the show is either cheating (or thinking about it), lying, back-stabbing, has a dependency problem, or all of the above. There are no redeeming qualities in anyone on the show!
I stopped watching season 1 when Don left his daughter's birthday party to pick up a cake - AND NEVER CAME BACK! I've read that even the actor who plays Don said it's hard for him to play such a sleazeball.
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in which AMC is re-airing all of the season 2 episodes in order starting at 9 A.M. sunday, with the new episode showing at it's regular time.
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As season 2 begins Don tries harder to stand by his family. If you haven't seen the second season then I won't tell you how successful he is, but he does try to do the right thing. Both Don and Campbell seem more conflicted this season instead of just being assholes. Besides, Peggy was always a likable character. I like how the series allows the characters to grow. Personally I would love to see more of bohemian Kinsey.
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Sorry, had to be said.
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Whereby so many people who saw the first two GODFATHER movies walked away not disgusted by the life-wrecking effects of the mafia and how it had ruined Michael, but impressed by how bad ass Michael had become. I think its a weird push-pull that the creators of these things are aware of, but if you make the lack of virtue so appealing, you run the risk of losing theme.
Of course, this isn't the case for everybody, and when I watch MAD MEN, I get depressed because I see a man that got everything he "wants" -- success in business, beautiful wife, 2.5 kids, sharp suits, etc. -- and he's miserable. -
As stated above, Don Draper is miserable, and much of the show seems to be able how he copes with it. (Shades of THE SOPRANOS.) A thought-experiment I propose is to ask what would he have to do to get out of his predicament?
1. Quit the firm. He's good at his job, but I think that on a fundamental level, he's unfulfilled, and this is making his soul sick. Don is obviously a creative; he should probably be a writer.
2. Divorce Betty. He doesn't appear to really love her, and monogamy may not be his thing anyway.
3. Reclaim his old identity, and in doing so, reclaim himself.
None of these moves seem viable within the framework of his life and within the framework of the show (we've got more seasons to go here), so there's a good chance we'll be seeing more misery and greater sublimation ahead. -
I like this show a lot, clever writing, a beautiful look, well acted. But I find it hard to move it into the top tier of shows that I enjoy watching. The show has such an icy, detached atmosphere, and the tone of all the melodrama rarely varies from bleak. I have no problem with darkness, but often I feel like this show is afraid to let the characters feel the full range of human emotion.
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I mean, the show is all about repression, so the characters aren't feeling the full range of human emotions by design. And they don't come often, but when there are moments of actual passion and emotion (Don's kiss on the roof with Rachel, for example), they're that much more satisfying and/or shocking for how rarely they happen. If you watch it from the beginning you'll see what I'm talking about.
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It's seems that they are pointing toward Don actually becoming self-actualized, with all the poetry reading and what-not.
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Totally moving! It's writing like that that makes this show what it is.
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So beautifully crafted! I love this show!
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He's the head of account services, its his job to bring in clients and make sure they stay happy with whatever Donny Draper sells them
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what sells. Any monkey thinks they can do this job." oh, Don... i'm watching the marathon now. I shoud be doing something production but its a holiday weekend. screw it...
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maybe if i drank, i could write. yes, hemingway!
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Is Frank O'Hara's title: the title of the book of poems Don read and then mailed to someone.
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during a time when the dream was real and a family could make it on one salary and families still ate at the dinner table together...its not supposed to be an uplifting show, its supposed to hold a mirror up to ourselves, much in the way the wire did...much in the way the sopranos did, until it became a parody....you arent supposed to admire anyone on the show...you are just supposed to relate...brilliant direction, brilliant scripts, brilliant acting...and weiner who has totally captured the age of camelot
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So much of the writing and direction on this show borrows from The Sopranos. Weiner was paying close attention when he worked on that fine program. I think the problem with the Sopranos was that it started out as a very plot-driven show and, therefore, made the last season seem disappointing because of its increased focus on the characters rather than the plot. I think that Weiner learned from that mistake and made Mad Men about the characters from the very beginning so that no one would feel let down if there wasn't a life-changing plot twist week in and week out. He has perfected his art.
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I don't want him fixed, I think. I don't think we're going to see him fixed though. He could divorce Betty ad maybe be happy, but it would ultimately be someone else. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Don together with Jimmy's wife in season three, only to have him doing some fucked up secret relationship with Betty on the side. It's not an issue of who Don is with, he's just destined to be unfulfilled. You see him with his liasion in season 1 doing the same stuff, or how he just asks Menken to pick up and leave immediately, ABANDONING his children. Don't get me wrong, I think Don loves his family, but he's still just a scared person, who runs away. He's good as hell at his job, and dealing with business and others, but he's still just scared. And it's completely understandable when you see he ran away from his previous life, and was ready to do so again at the end of season 1. Again, don't get me wrong, I love the show, and love Don, and think the "I feel nothing" scene in the car last week is one of my favorites of the series; it's BECAUSE of these flaws that I like the show. Don is never going to be consistently happy; I don't think he even knows how to, or at least what he'd do with himself if he found it. That's why he spends so much time at work, and perfecting that aspect of his life, it's because he's avoiding the fact that he doesn't know what the hell to do with his wife, and that he's got a family to go to at the end of the day; not a sales account.
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If you ever worked in advertising, you'd understand why Don is so miserable. It is the emptiest, most vapid and soul sapping creative endeavor ever devised by man.
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Hit nail on head...the money's good though.
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Tonight's episode was all about characters. Great from start to finish. The looks went a long way.
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Shich song opened the episode?
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It's "The Infanta" by The Decemberists
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How does she not get an Emmy nomination?
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Aug 31, 2008 10:16:38 PM CDT
What was the name of the person who told Bobbi about Don?
by goon bighead
I couldn't make it out when she said it.
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went to St. Paul's. So did I. Does that say anything about me?
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Wasnt she the artist that Don was having an affair with at the beginning of season 1?
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The Decemberists to start the episode? I thought it was strange that it wasnt an era appropriate track. Have they ever done that before?
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Bobbi said the name (don't remember) from Random House. It wasn't Midge, just some other exec he's nailed
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It was Sally Menken. Don dealt with her father's department store last year and had an affair with her. It's who he wanted to run away with. And MeBlueo, I don't think they've ever used different era music except when making a point, like the finale ending with Dylan.
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The Decemberists' song was a bit distracting, but so were the women dressing. Peggy looked like a total fox in the strip joint scene. Don seems to be spiraling head first into a mid-life crises. I'm really interested in where they're gonna take us with him.
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darthcreep is right, it was someone at Random House. The actual name was unfamiliar to me.
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Not Sally.
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It was a Sarah T.....y at random house. I couldnt understand the last name. I caught the last 20 mins of the encore. Clearly we have not seen all of Don's numerous affairs.
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Sep 01, 2008 12:09:47 AM CDT
Last two episodes= best of the season. Lots of notes here...
by gravitysrainbow
-A little bit weird hearing The Decemberists in a show set in the 60s. Granted, I'm sure they've played lots of songs post '63. -While last week had the most impact of all episodes this season, I think the scene in which Don stood up with the vets and the final scene were incredible. -Although the mirror shot was terrific, do we have to end every episode zooming out of a room? I'd prefer for it to be done sparingly, and not become a gimmick. -Anyone wonder if Pete has an infatuation with having sex on a couch (remember Peggy in the office)? How old was that girl? I think it's clear Pete is very much in love with Peggy. He was so... polite to her in her office. -The actor that plays Duck was the best he's been so far in that sad scene with the dog & the booze. Seems everyone's got demons here... -Mckinzy (sic) sure does look like Orson Welles.
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That last scene...I'm not exactly sure what the look that crossed Don's face was about but...damn.
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Maybe something jogged a memory when his daughter said she wouldn't talk (so he wouldn't hurt himself)? I dunno. I'm in California, so the encore has about another 30 min left to go. I'll have to check it out again.
Meanwhile, just to get back to How to Fix Don Draper for a moment, in last week's talkback, I made the snarky but perhaps not entirely inaccurate observation that the pov behind the show was Marxist. (Yeah, that's right, I said Marxist: Critiquing a rotten, market-driven culture perpetuating itself at the expense of the human soul seems to be the underlying theme of what's going on. Think about it.) And as such, the only fix is to "drop out" like I described today.
But on the other hand, the writers might pull a fast one, and reveal somehow, someway that Don's problems aren't sociological but psychological, just like DanielKurland is suggesting.
I'd have an easier time buying that if Don were the only one miserable on the show, but there's more unhappiness in MAD MEN than in an Anton Chechov play. Again, the finger seems to be pointing at their way of life.
But back to the episode:
* Complex relationship between Duck and the dog. Was the dog his only outlet for his repressed love for his family? And when his family seemed to reject him, was it that much easier for him to ultimately and utterly reject the dog?
* when the comedian's wife commented on how she was surprised he was still interested in her, I had to agree with her. She offers him very little.
* I think the children on this show offer NOTHING in the way of hope for the future.
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because he is a whore like his mother and somebody called him on it.
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"Mad Men" is virtually the only thing worth watching on TV for people who know how to read. Matt Weiner learned a lot on "The Sopranos" it's true but he also brought a lot of the same nuanced writing, character development and I would bet fighting for his ideas to that show. MM also sports arguably the greatest production design in the history of television. Like "The Godfather" it romanticizes the characters without making them likable or by whitewashing them. None of them is any more or less than human and virtually all motives can be or will be understood with a little thinking. Duck for instance seems to be at the head of a terrific bender which is not unprecedented. Like Pete and Don, he is falling through this world in which he must seem in control while usually untethered hence the motif in hte credits. Don hates liars but knows he is one. He's decent enough to hate himself for what he does. He is the dual "woman" one in the day time one in the night that he so enthusiastically pitched to the bra people. His distress at the end calls to that dilemna, Who is Don Draper to Don Draper? And when your daughter says "I won't talk so you won't hurt yourself" after you've just told your mistress to stop talking (so you won't get hurt) that's not exactly obscure. Rather, it's almost to on the nose as is the mirror image of Draper after the shot pulls back. Interestingly, Don unlike Pete is not looking for the most attractive woman when he goes in search of escape. He's got that at home and he's bored of it. Notice that none of Don's women aside from Bets is a stunner. Don's already been down that road and like the disaffected heroes in books of the 40's and 50's Don is familiar with, he's looking for a true counterpart, someone wounded like Rachel or who owns their power like Bobbi. But they never heal him, not yet anyway. I wish the show was three hours long because with all the characters and the supporting characters being as potentially interesting as they are, we still only get references to the times instead of full immersion in the times the way the series does at its best - it transports you to virtually a different planet. When that airliner went down, which is based on a true story, I don't think there had ever been a major airplane crash in the world.
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Is that what the opening title suggests?
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Nice play off of the maiden form ad and Hamm's acting as the wave of depression hit him was amazing. You could see it building in the country club when all the vets stood up.Fucking sling box, have all the episodes been this good so far?
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is winning me over. just started watching this season. not really a show that should interest me, but i find it interesting every week.
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Thank for the answers Darthcreep.
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with the same sad camera pullback. It's starting to feel a little cliche.
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Even with the 200 dolly shots.
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I like to watch this show and think about which of these folk are most like my grandparents. I know they're trying to be honest to the times, but all the sexism is a little hard to take. My wife absolutely hates this show.
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Of course he's a sleezeball. But I'm not commending the guy for his actions, it's his attitude. When he pitches in meetings, he's strong and confident. And while he may be a nervous wreck at times, he can also be quite sensible and rational (at least compared to the others in the office). I believe this comes from his rough upbringing. He knows how rotten it was and for that reason he seems to never be inclined to hit his child. For a man with a stolen identity, he seems to be 50% sure of himself, which is better than what most humans can say. He continues to put himself out there, for Peggy, for Roger, without expecting anything in return but loyalty. And that's one thing Don Draper's got in abundance.
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Of course he's a sleezeball. But I'm not commending the guy for his actions, it's his attitude. When he pitches in meetings, he's strong and confident. And while he may be a nervous wreck at times, he can also be quite sensible and rational (at least compared to the others in the office). I believe this comes from his rough upbringing. He knows how rotten it was and for that reason he seems to never be inclined to hit his child. For a man with a stolen identity, he seems to be 50% sure of himself, which is better than what most humans can say. He continues to put himself out there, for Peggy, for Roger, without expecting anything in return but loyalty. And that's one thing Don Draper's got in abundance.
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For the sexism are using their disdain for unfair treatment of women to discredit the show, and I think that's ridiculous. Look, I'm Jewish, but I don't hate "Schindler's List" because I see terrible (and factual) things happen to a group I belong to.
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of people Don may have sent the book to, seeing as he is now linked to another literary person. Here I was thinking Peggy was the only answer, but now maybe not. After all, the timeline seems odd. How much time would have passed between Don going to see Peggy and her returning to work? I wouldn't think much time at all. Don could have just given her the book at work, and there wasn't anything preventing him from seeing her if that happened while she was away. On the other hand, he might have no other choice but to mail the book to someone he can otherwise no longer see.
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This episode was a nice play on the Playtex, faux Maidenform, ad they were trying to pitch. I think the two scenes that bring everything together is when all the boys are pointing around at the women in the office and saying all these women want to be either a Marilyn or a Jackie, the Madonna or the Whore. They're all laughing and joking at these women's expense, then when Bobbi tells Don he's the talk of the town, he realizes he's being laughed and joked about too. Just like the women in the office. He's an object, he's the whore to these women he's slept with. Turnabout is fair play, as they say.
And Pete needs to get over his obsession with Peggy. He's a bastard and its going to turn out bad.
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was used twice in this episode in regards to his realizations of what makes him a bad person (she smiles and stares at her father with admiration when he stands up as a vet, and she stares at him when he's shaving). the "innocence" of children and how they reflect the parents of this show is a very interesting theme. the neighbor's son is the only male who treats betsy with respect and actually listens to her.. and he's about eight year olds. don excuses his son's behavior because the child's lying habits are very much in line with his fathers.
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I am a fan of old movies, and when Don compared Peggy to Irene Dunne I yelped with glee. For those of you not in the know, she was a 5 time Oscar nominee (check out The Awful Truth with Cary Grant) who was just as brilliant in comedy or drama. And I loved Freddy Rumsen's reaction - "Oh I love Irene Dunne." For me, knowing a bit about her, I smiled after knowing how much of a compliment that was to Peggy. It showed the developing complexity between her and Don. I love this show. And I admit that it could be hard to "love" for some, but I love it for the same reason that I love Julianne Moore. It can be complicated, cold, and even dark at times, but there is this lightness and joy at times that balances it and makes the whole thing so worthwhile.
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THE SWIMMER with Burt Lancaster? I find Mad Men has a similar "oddness" quality that that film had... And that is a very good thing.
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One of the most oddly surreal movies I've ever seen, and yet you can tell the filmmakers burned far less calories than David Lynch on a good day. I can see some MAD MEN elements there: American Dreams versus Tragic Reality. But if Don ever decides to try to find soul redemption by literally swimming back home, the show will have gone to a new place.
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Oh yeah you are definitely right, Mad Man is it's own thing... and I hope it stays that way. But, as you said, both have this optimistic facade of the American "pursuit of happiness" and just under the skin there is this unconformable creep... little hints here and there that things are just a little off... that things are not quite right... even a bit sinister. But is hard for the characters to see through all of their material possessions and social niceties as people move through their daily lives. This Matthew Weiner guy is REALLY good as what he does... the Sopranos gave me the same feeling.
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"it's" should have been "its". I just fell victim to my own grammatical pet peeve.
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well, they did.
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Sigh...could this show be any better? It's ridiculously great. Every moment is a slam dunk. Peggy was lookign HOT a tthe strip club. Definitely not looking al ike a "little girl" then.
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I think it calls back to Don's last discussion with Bobbie. Bobbie had told him he had a reputation; Don left and told her to quit talking. Don's daughter said she wouldn't talk so Don would not cut himself. Her words echoed Don's words to Bobbie; Don realizes that Bobbie is going to cut him by breaking her silence. Don has been a philanderer and assumed that people kept such things secret and quiet. Bobbie, as a woman scorned, will have no such discretion. I think this is what leads to Jimmy Barrett calling up Bets in the preview for next weeks ep.
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You are one clever dude... that is what I was thinking to myself when I saw the episode with my GF. We often discuss the details of that night's MAD MEN after it airs, but I couldn't quite explain what I was getting at with the shaving scene. The way you are able to articulate it makes sense. thx
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I dont think its a literal 'forecasting' of the end of the show. I think its all symbolism in that he's already jumped from a spiritual and psychological point of view. he's in that 'freefall' between jump and impact, watching all his life scroll by like giant billboards and retail promotional marquis signs. Its as if his soul jumped from a building the moment he told it, "im the one in charge here, not you." and he's been a spiritual/emotional zombie from that point forward - he's walking the steps and just hobbling along like a corporate drone, getting no benefits or rewards for it. He's doing it because 'thats what men do.'
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The baby brother Murray...last week the musical zipper, this week, giving Peggy instructions to write some "tittilating copy" for Playtex...
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This show has used music out of time and out of place before. At the end of one of the earlier episodes last year, they used a song by The Cardigans, not "Love Fool", but some other song on that same CD, "First Band on the Moon". And there have been other times, but mostly the music in in the end credits. I just figure the anachronistic music puts the episode into perspective for us modern viewers; and maybe it was the better music choice to put a button on the episode.
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by MrBlueo
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Sep 02, 2008 9:00:10 PM CDT
Damn, one of the best talkbacks I've seen on this site
by mockingbird girl
Actual discussion and analysis, without the ranting fools and poseurs. And no one who thinks their life's complete if they post "first!" I... I think I love you guys. ;-)
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I went to sleep and thought I was so-and-so. I was actually starting to feel sorry for Duck until he dumped the dog. Now I just want Don to bury him.
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I thought it was the long weekend that kept it off surfthechannel, but tonight still all I got is 9 hours of bittorrent staring me in the face, and I don't love this show *that* much. Can anybody help a dude out?
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Well said Mockingbird Girl. and Back at you.
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Also remember..he ends up on the couch at the end of that sequence, cool as a cucumber..
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I wanted to hint at the Jimmy Barrett thing two wees ago. He insisted to see Don at his office, and his behavior was if he were 'analyzing' Don. Then he told him that he "couldn't tell when Don was serious and when he was negotiating/putting on a front", and told him that he was 'cool', and called him 'Donny'. Interesting
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I often tell people that Matthew Weiner writes this, and I assume it's this good because a talented, yet grounded person is in control. He paid attention from what David Chase did wrong, and then perfected it. I'm sure he wanted to write some interesting stuff for The Soprano's, but Chase had his own vision, which crippled some aspects of the show(Christopher suffocated by Tony?WTF?!). He's in control, and being creative and professional.
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Yeah, I'd have to agree... as much as I think The Sopranos is a masterpiece, Chase did take it in some odd directions and made a misstep here and there. Let's hope Weiner is able to avoid this with Mad Men. BTW, what's up with the dislike for HBO? I'm in Canada and HBO is not part of our cable package so we often have to wait 6 months or so until an HBO series shows up on the Canadian specialty channels (there is now more simulcasting in an effort curb torrent downloading). Anyway, HBO is sort of revered up here for its quality... even if they did cancel Deadwood. Is HBO turning into the BBC - a once great broadcaster known for brilliant programming, but now in decline? Gosh I hope not.
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Oh man... I can't believe I just said "gosh"
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People are pissed at HBO for cancelling Deadwood in favor of John from Cincinnati, allowing Chase to derail The Soprano's, and passing on Mad Men and many other quality shows in favor of Tell Me You Love Me....I still respect them for their groundbreaking programs, but as of late, FX, Showtime, AMC, & USA are stealing their swag
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And pay cable-wise, Showtime is stealing a bit of HBOs thunder with Weeds, Dexter, Californication (interesting to see what happens after Duchovney's sexual addition admission), and I've heard good things about Brotherhood.HBO seems to be hung up on sex and psychiatrists...
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Maybe that look on Don's face was him staring into the void and the void staring back?
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i know shhe wanted to be involved in their after hours stuff and she was told last week to use her femininity. But sitting on the guys lap? As if she's no better than an object like the stripper? Surely she should have tried to sit back and drink with the others on par with them?
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I yelled at the TV when Peggy was listening to the guys talk about meeting at the strip club, "Peggy don't do it!" Of course I knew she would. Ugh. She tries to fit into the boys club so badly, but - with our current viewpoint - the boys club is slowly on its way out.
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My guess would be Duck. Wife and kids are gone, dogs gone; time to loosen up and go a little crazy (looks like he's on his way).
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Many of the bigger HBO shows all seemed to come to an end around the same time, and were replaced by seemingly lesser shows(or nothing). People are angry at the way Deadwood and Carnivalle. Carnivalle was essentially cancelled on a cliffhanger, and it was suggested Deadwood would get at least a final movie to wrap things up, but that probably won't happen. I think the way Rome ended also upset some people. Inside the NFL has been on HBO for decades and they cancelled that and Showtime picked it up. HBO passed on Mad Men, suggested it was going to make a Preacher show and then didn't. Many of the channels that have copied HBO's formula are doing it very well now, and HBO just isn't.
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Hmmm...could be. Although Himbo's well articulated post leans most in the direction that I was thinking. Don's past indiscretions may be coming back to haunt him.Whatever the case may be, the look on his face (and the way it was shot) was very eerie - Hamm definitely conveyed that sense of the ground opening up beneath his feet. Great stuff.
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I'm placing my muttonchops bet on Cosgrove. He's still single. He's going to try to keep up with the young girls - be hip.
Duck's son is probably going to die in Vietnam unless the new hubby can get him a college deferment(sp).
I think Don's son is just going to miss being drafted.
Don's real mirror was Sally. First off at that shindig where he had to stand up as a proud veteran. There was Sally looking up, proud of her daddy; there was Don, shame coursing through every fiber of his being. And then of course, there was Sally mirroring what Don was saying to Bobbi about not talking; Don once again feeling the burden of shame overcome him. Of all the female characters on this show, its Sally's "I love my strong daddy" eyes that gut him the most. Its important for young girls that their father be the hero they think them to be and Don knows this just isn't the case and he's starting to have a crisis over it. Powerful. -
poor chauncey
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Was a great episode, and some excellent observations in the talk back. Dons been kind of playing it off the rails recently with the car crash and all, with the break with Bobbie he's bound to end up getting punished, and badly I suspect. Should be interesting to see how it plays out. Certainly the best drama show on TV at present by a long way.
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Yeah,excellent points. It's almost like Draper is leading two lives; what Sally said to him when he was shaving opened a crack in the mental wall he puts up to seperate the two. Maybe he's borderline schizophrenic?
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Sorry I'm late
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But I just watched the episode now. I wanted to point out something no one else did about the mirrors. Earlier in the episode, Pete looks himself in the mirror, pauses for a second and then grins, pleased with himself for getting away with cheating on him wife. Don, on the other hand, can't look himself in the mirror. There's stome conscience inside Don worth saving.Oh, and ya gotta love, "Marilyn's a Joan". Does anyone think it's actually much more significant for television in general that Joan is so much of a sex symbol on the show. She's so much bigger than a typical "hot girl" on TV, but watching this show, you kind of don't realize it.
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