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Will There Be Further CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK?
Beaks here...
Did I miss something, or did THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK make a killing on DVD? I know the RIDDICK video game is considered one of the better movie tie-ins; did that outsell YAR'S REVENGE or something? I'm asking because Vin Diesel seems extraordinarily optimistic about the two RIDDICK sequels he's planning with writer-director David Twohy. Here's what Diesel told MTV Movies' Shawn Adler:
"David Twowy right now is writing the scripts. The only question is whether we take a page from the 'Lord of the Rings' guys and try to shoot the two chapters at the same time. There are two more in mind," he said of Riddick, the Furyan warrior first introduced in the 2000 film "Pitch Black."
Though I rather enjoyed the last film, and would gladly give Twohy and Diesel a whole heap o' cash to continue their fantasy saga, I doubt the folks at Universal are hot to bankroll another adventure on... (help me, IMDb) Helion Prime after the last movie eked out a worldwide gross of $115 million on a $105 million budget. Then again, I never thought we'd see another HELLBOY movie, so who the hell knows?
Diesel elaborates on his plans for RIDDICK 3 & 4 here.
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OF SAYING FIRST!
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Cause I think Riddick is a compelling character, and hopefully Twohy spends abit of time on the script.
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Aug. 25, 2008, 10:39 p.m. CST
fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-ta-t
by DarfurFTW
CROWNED FIRST TEH CHAMPION
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NOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...
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But that last movie was very meh.<br> Speaking of that video game there's a special edition coming out soon for next gen consoles. Can't wait.
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...featured in Angels & Demons? Sorry, thought I would post something interesing, since this article isn't.
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...but it only works on an epic scale with a big budget so good luck to them.
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came out of the Chronicles was The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay video game. One of the best games ever!
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Aug. 25, 2008, 10:53 p.m. CST
I wish someone other than Vin Diesel would say something about t
by Outlaw24
I saw both Pitch Black and Chronicles of Riddick on DVD and I thought they were pretty good. But I also knew that Chronicles hadn't done well in the theaters, despite Vin Diesel talking about the "trilogy." And I accepted Chronicles for what it was - just another "Part One" of a series we'd never see. This "Part One" trend has frankly been ruining Hollywood movies/adaptations for a while now. If you look at some of the movie trilogies that worked best (Star Wars, Back to the Future, Indiana Jones...even Pirates of the Caribbean), you will notice that they were ORIGINALLY made as standalone films, not just the first portion of a story that you won't actually like unless you get to see the whole thing. Then, after they establish that they can make a GOOD film, they build off of it with sequels and work with the original material to make it SEEM like they always intended a trilogy. All these book adaptations trying to be the next Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter are shooting themselves in the feet from their lack of understanding this simple concept. I felt like Chronicles of Riddick had a lot of the symptoms of this disease, and the only person I've ever heard championing the Riddick Trilogy concept has been Vin Diesel himself. Maybe if Universal had a rep saying something about "It's not out of the realm of possibility" or "We're developing the scripts," then I might be able to go back and watch Chronicles of Riddick again without thinking to myself how disappointing it is to never get to find out how this story was intended to end. You know?
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1st one was so-so, or kinda weak really. But! There is a universe there worth exploring. Ditch the multiverse idea and go with more riddick the con against the mercs idea... could be fantastic.
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It's a barbarian movie in space! Really hope this pans out. One request -- bring backToombs.
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I REALLY hope they make them! I love the Riddick movies. Fingers crossed.....
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Not trying to compare "Golden Compass" with "Riddick" but it's another example of a part one of a series that we'll never see. "Eragon" as well, although no one gives a shit about that. There's tons more examples out there, and I do think it's becoming a serious problem. Although as Beaks said, we did get a Hellboy II and I never thought that would happen.
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Aug. 25, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST
Fuck yes...I'd like to see 5 more Riddick films...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
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Pitch Black was great. Chronicles was an overbloated suckfest. If they're really going to continue the series (and i'll believe it when i see it) they should stick to the lean situation based model of Pitch Black and steer clear of the murky sci-fi of Chronicles.
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I've got a boner, too.
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not a big fan of Vin normally but I really liked Pitch Black and Chronicles of Riddick. The f/x were damn good, esp in the second one. Hey, it would be better than Death Race or whatever they are putting out nowdays.
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I hear the director is writing a script but, I thought Chronicles of Riddick wasn't a logical step forward for Riddick. I understand that Vin Diesel wants an Epoch, but Chronicles had a lot of fat in it, and failed to advance the story very much or take advantage of its huge sets. Stargate: SG1 stole the idea, and did it a lot better with the Ori saga. In Chronicles, save for the beginning, the prison escape and the ending, all we saw was a myriad of soldiers running around in montages...and terribly undefined ships and strangely slow and unexciting action--a deep contrast to Pitch Black, which was fun, fast, terrifying, and exciting??? I want to bring that back to the series, that sense of amusement park rollercoaster thrills and suspense.<BR><BR>I have a cool story outline that does just that. I wrote it after I saw Chronicles, and was greatly disappointed. I set the script outline I was writing aside, when Riddick failed at the box office...when I heard that there may not be anymore sequels. Well, now that talk has started again, I figured I try to pitch my outline just in case the right folks out there are reading these posts. If you're game, and work for Vin or his direct collaborators, ask Harry for my email address, and give me a chance to pitch my story. I think it's what you're looking for!!!
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Riddick was always a live action version of Heavy Metal magazine.<p> You know those Moebius stories, or the Meta-Baron saga that were really cool as long as you didn't ask too many questions. Don't try to make the world actually hang together. Just enjoy the over-the-top melodrama of the thing.
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Not hating, just saying.
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What is so special about that game? I've never even heard of it.
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Aug. 25, 2008, 11:25 p.m. CST
Riddick is a really nice change from the other Sci Fi out there.
by happybunni
Wait, what other Sci Fi?! It's all about Fantasty (including Superheroes) right now. Yes, we need more Riddick. They just need better villians for the future films, and it would do much better. Loved Pitch Black, enjoyed Chronicles.. even though it's not a favorite it's still a worthwhile movie to make and to pay to see! Moar please.
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CoR was underrated. Cheesy as hell, yes, but good nonetheless and with an ending that really made me want a sequel. Bring it on!
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It was for the original XBOX. If you have a 360, you can play it on there. It's a backwards compatible game. It's not a long game, but it's one of the best games created in the last 15 years. If you like Video Games, trust me, you will like it.
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loved the first two, and the animated movie was a decent addition to the story line. i would love to see at least one more movie.
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It's not on any other system than X box?
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Maybe they should concentrate on making one good sequel first. Just sayin.
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Love the whole Riddick franchise and would definitely pay to see moar!
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I'm fairly certain that the Chronicles did well by the numbers on DVD considering it was one of the first HD-DVD titles and it was widely offered in rebate/combo packages. I think they should keep them coming. Straight to DVD would be fine with me as long as they keep the budget on par with the last one. However, if they want to be gutsy and try to make a blockbuster with the next one, I'll be happy to fork over my $8.
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I don't mean to be rude, but you and so many others are quick to judge the box office potential of actors, but yet know nothing about their past and potential bankability. Vin Diesel has had a steady run of hits. They may not be blockbusters, but studios take notice when the word "profit" is declared. Although The Pacifer was not what many considered a homerun, the film, budgeted at aroumd $60 million, ended up grossing around $90 million at the box office, not to mention another $30 million on DVD. Chronicles of Riddick, budgeted at $105 million grossed $115 internationally and another $50 million on DVD. Even his small drama Find Me Guilty made a profit. You're what they call in politics a "low information voter." I'm sure you're smart about something. This isn't one of them.
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Chronicles was watchable. I'd put it in the same category as the Resident Evil flicks though: not bad if there's nothing much better on to look at. <p> Pitch Black was better, but that's because Riddick was just a character in it.
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Pitch Black was good and Chronicles of Riddick, while flawed, had a lot going for it. I thought though that Colm Feore was horribly miscast. He's a good actor but he just doesn't have an aura of being a bad @ss emperor typed so it minimized the threat and the final fight didn't have an epic weight. Also, the story structure didn't quite work. The time on the prison planet while good, took away from the main story so the build up to the end wasn't anywhere near what it should've been. Riddick is a good character and that universe has lots of potential.
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Unfortunatly, it's only for the original x box. But, you can by an old xbox and the game for about $50. It's very much worth it. If you go to youtube, you can watch some of the gameplay videos.
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Pitch Black was a great sci-fi thriller and Chronicles felt like real old-school 80s science fiction. That triple-pack dvd that came with the two movies and the anime was one of the best purchases for my money ever. I love seeing Vin in full on badass Furian mode (does he have another mode?). He needs a hit.
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Vin Diesel likes to talk up projects that are total long shots to ever happen, bless him.
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Yeah, I'll do that
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I, for one, would pay to see another RIDDICK adventure. He's just such an unusual and eccentric sci-fi hero - the Snake Plissken of our times, sort of. The last film was far from perfect but it had some amazing scenes and a fantastic ending, with tons of potential for subsequent installments. I think, there is great potential in continuing the CHRONICLES!!!
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..what do they outrun this time? God?
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such boring films... boooooooring
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It is available for the PC. I just searched it and found it.
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Pitch Black was badass, because we had no idea what to expect. Out of nowehre, this little nothing of a film comes out, fearlessly, and introduces Riddick, who *I* thought was gonna fucking kill everyone by film's end (hehe.)Anybody and everybody was expendable. Riddick should have been treated better in the sequel, but the "Holy shit, he's king now" ending kinda paints the whole thing in a corner, doesn't it? Besides...Chronicles was balls. And not in a good way.
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History tells me that Vin Diesel in SciFi = good times, unfortunately not many people seem to agree with me on this. If these films get made I'll go see 'em, but given the tepid reaction to the last one I just don't see it happening, not unless they chop the budgets down quite a bit.
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(shrugs) nah.
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Chronicles was the last film I went to see with a group of friends. Local cinema put prices up at that point and friends all got a little older and stopped cinemagoing together. I love the character and while the fantasy elements of Chronicles are kinda OTT the action is enjoyable and really, tell me of another big screen scifi at all. Avatar, and that's it. Not much gets me into the cinema nowadays, and this would.
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Mr. Robert Downey Jr., is trashing the Dark Knight in an interview.. He even says fuck dc comics in the interview. Which is understandable but no matter what he says, Dark Knight is the greatest superhero movie and that wil never change. reead it here: http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/downey-talks-dark-knight.html
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Necromancers.. meh. In Pitch Black was Riddick as just a pure unadulterated hateful badass. Chronicals was ok, but seemed a bit too cutesy. Still good tho, worth a follow up, just hope they don't over do it this time.
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I dunno why, just have this odd facination with her... lol
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I didn't go see the movie in theaters because I read that they'd cut stuff out and that that stuff would be in the DVD. I figured it would be better to see it with all the deleted stuff. I honestly do not know how the theatrical cut made any sense to anyone. The Director's Cut was strong I thought, and I'm kind of disappointed in the internet community for piling on the snark and not supporting the film more (I'm looking you, CHUD bitches). I would very much like to see the series continue. But if I hear of more cuts, I'll wait for the DVD again. Maybe the answer here is stop cutting the films to suit bullshit studio memoes concerned with statistics about optimum movie lengths and showtime schedules.
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I want more Riddick movies. Riddick is an exciting franchise in an industry nearly void of original sci-fi concepts. Make two more NOW. I'll see 'em both opening night just for fucking kicks.
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If AD doesnt flop, that might just convince Universal that Vin Diesel is bankable enough for these Riddick sequels. Pitch Black is a great movie. Chronicles was flawed, but I loved the prison planet stuff, that should have been the whole story, like Oz in space, and keep the shadow villains for future movies. Still puzzled how they got Judi Dench to be in there tho...
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Certainly had its problems, and wasn't as good as Pitch Black, but I thought it was a nice attempt to create a grand sci-fi universe. Pitch Black, while entertaining, was just sort of a small movie. It was well-done, but it was basically Aliens vs People. Which we've seen over and over again for about more times than I can count. I liked that Chronicles of Riddick tried to expand the scope of the universe that those characters occupy, and tried to introduce a whole sense of culture and mythology that the first movie really only hinted at. So I'd be down with more Chronicles of Riddick movies in a heartbeat. I just hope that they're better than the last one. Because even though Chronicles of Riddick was sort of ambitious, it really DID sort of stink. But there was enough going for it that I'd like to see more stories set in that universe.
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just about every line in the movie makes me cringe, but the video game was good.
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More original than most stuff coming out lately.
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The DC was definitely better. I rented the movie and that is the version I rented and I really liked it. Someone gave it to me for Christmas, but they gave me the theatrical version, which I didn't realize til I watched it and noticed stuff missing.
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The last one was a bit of a mess but it was a fun mess. Great visuals.
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definitely one of the better movie tie-ins, in fact can't think of a better one of the top of my hat.<p> I think Riddick's future will depend a lot on success of Babylon A.D.
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I honestly had no idea that this many people would be interested in seeing more Riddick.
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They've been selling it as the Riddick trilogy along with Pitch Black and the cartoon. People have bought it and watched them all.
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Vin Diesel and David Towhy. They hang out inside Vin's garage on benedict canyon smoke bowls and play out what would happen in the underverse (so gay) using retro-fitted Millinium Falcon's, landspeeder's and tin foil. No one wants to see these movies happen. Vin is 3 years away from Van Damme-land... if he's lucky.
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Riddick as a character was great in Pitch Black. Riddick as a character seemed a lil' Dungeons and Dragons in COR. I'd like to see a more PB-style, hard-R Riddick. He is kinda Snake Plissken for the 21st Century...give us more of that.
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It was good, well shot and was headed somewhere. So, what's wrong with that?
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http://blogs.amctv.com/scifi-scanner/2008/08/babylon-ad-mathieu-kassovitz.php Fox strikes again, it seems.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Chronicles was really good although I felt the ending fell a little flat. They should have introduced the furyan powers when the final battle took place rather than have him win on a technicality. Still there's a lot to do with this and if I remember correctly, Twohy was at one time calling this "The Evil Star Wars." Hope this does not go the way of Phantasm V.
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I love the character of Riddick, but as a few have mentioned i would love to see him go back to more of the criminal aspect of the character. Also brings back good memories of the game.They could make another kick ass one to tie in with new film.
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and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, CoR has been pretty popular on cable as well as DVD, one hand scratching the other. anyways I'd be curious to see where Twohy goes with another Riddick film, that guy can SHOOT, he's got a great eye, storytelling is yeah weak but man, from a visual standpoint, he's amazing
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I'm in.
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That game was one of the better games I have played as of late... and I TEST games for a living. I think that Diesel was meant to play Riddick like Ford was meant to play Indiana. It just works. Keep it up. Now speaking of Heavy Metal... Wheres my multi milion dollar XXX Druuna movie?!
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a quarter parsec at a time. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to blast my womp rat in beggar's canyon.
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Ya Bloo, CoR has done pretty well after then fact with the fan love.... PB was no-low-budget imagination, CoR was big budget Heavy Metal Space Opera Barbarianism and grand yet cheap looking world (expensive to make) fun to watch. Good switch-up. One of the only characters Vin can do well in his gravelly-voiced-love-thyself badassitude (excluding class like Boiler/Giant/Ryan or fluff like Furious), and does not come off as hokey-BS. Seeing him stick-thin doing B-Dancing on YouTube from years ago, glad he bulked up, and takes himself (on film anyways) seriously. Do not know if Arny or Sly even, could have pulled off the coffee/tea cup and key scene in CoR, classic... Lets see more Riddick, but lets go lower on the budget, make it more raw – a little PB with my CoR... Having met Sly, Arny and Vin (I work as a talent agent), of all three, Vin is the most down to earth and ironically jovial, great to converse with. Hope he gets to make more of them. Will buy tickets, DVD, and game(s)...
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Aug. 26, 2008, 2:02 a.m. CST
like watching lynch's dune, and fast and the furious at the same
by aquateenhungerbomb
was it star wars or lord of the rings? no. but it was fun as shit. saw it three times in the theater. the necromancer attack on helion prime is one of the more exciting special effects action sequences in a long time.
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...complete with campy villains and dodgy sidekicks. Compare the last shot of Chronicles with the last shot of the director's cut of Conan the Barbarian. Eerily the same. As long as it doesn't take itself too seriously and is willing to indulge itself in a little camp, I'm happy.
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Review in Total Film (UK) - 'Turn the page, life's too short' One star out of five. On the plus side it's better than Gothika :\
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Probably the best sci fi movie in the last ten years.<p> Chronicles was good, but the better prison movie in the middle made the overall storyline a bit disjointed. In any event, I'm all for more Riddick flix and bring back Toombs!
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...and I'll say it again: Twohy for the next Conan flick. Think of what he could do for the visualization of the Hyborian Age, not to mention shooting ferocious and fast hand-to-hand combat. If you've seen Chronicles of Riddick, you'll know what I mean. Never mind if you loved or hated that movie.
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...why not? If we get another sublime game tie-in, all the better.
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is a very much underated film. Yes I know it owes a lot to Dune but it was done with such balls and Pzazz. I was very disappointed when I heard they didn't want to make the rest but this is definitely good news.
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Not including LOTR, but what usually ends up happening is that both movies end up feeling similar to one another. Also they feel rushed and getting released so close to each other, makes us tire of the franchise all together. There needs to be several years between sequels. So enough time has passed where you're excited to see these characters agin. It's like seeing old friends you haven't seen in a while.
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Aug. 26, 2008, 3:14 a.m. CST
Ridick 2? Fuck Yes! Pitch Black 2? Ill Fucking Kill You
by Frodo T. Baggins
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I am a big sci-fi fan and this film was the first good sci-fi fantasy film that I has seen in a while.... I have often wondered where it was going to head next, after leaving us on such a cliffhanger....! Oh and Pitch Black was awesome.
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I liked Pitch Black but I loved the way the Chronicles of Riddick morphed the series from an Alien-like small film to a Conanesque-style epic.<p> They gotta bring Alex back though. Otherwise any sequels will be a bust...
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I'd like to see more Pitch Black Riddick myself. When I first saw it, it was the first time i "recognized" Vin and I thought the character was great. COR, not so much... Still I think more can be done with the character if they haven't already ruined him with COR. Also: The game was brilliant and gives said character a lot more depth, imo.
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so sit tight.
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I have came.
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Diesel has been talking about this since Chronicles first came out.<p> I've been dubious ever since Peter Jackson made that april fools crack about making Son of Kong and mentioned using the money that was put aside for Riddick 2 and 3, which was now up for grabs. I think the project has been sinking since then.
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nothing else matters
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Activision dropped Dark Athena back when they dropped Ghostbusters and other stuff.
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Yeah, that just about sums it up. And kudos to the guy who said Chronicles of Riddick was like watching Lynch's Dune and Fast and the Furious at the same time.
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Don't hold your breath for Babylon A.D. Just read reports that the films director is talking shit about the film. He says lawyers showed up on set, and that the studio basically monitored his daily activities to make sure they got the product they wanted. GUESS WHO he's talking about:......FOX! Vin Deisel has even been quoted as asking: "Am I even in the film anymore? Did they cut me out too?"
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try and fuck with Jim Cameron on Avatar. That would make a cool behind the scenes documentary.
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Loved Pitch Black, enjoyed COR - not much hard SF out there at the moment. When's someone going to film Clarke's 3001?
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about as much as I want a part 3 to this.
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I thought the film wsa grossly inelegant, to go from a relatively hard science fiction millieu to Necromongers and ethereal spirits was appalling, and I think a sequel would be an exercise in ego-massaging
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I way preferred Pitch Black to Riddick. The effects were nice but everything had an 'over-designed' quality that stopped me from believing what I was watching, especially the bad guys. They looked like they stepped out of 'Starlight Express'. I think Diesel gets more flack than he should, if you compare him to the likes of Arnie and Stalone back in the 80's he has much better acting chops. His performance was mesmerising in Pitch Black. I'd like more stories, but they need start with much stronger stories.
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he acted like he was actually Riddick for a whole week, without pause.
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Those prison dogs looked horribly CGI, and the ships looked like they were shot via stop motion animation, with a herky jerky feel. I prefer the photo-realistic look of Pitch Black. It had a much lower budget, but better effects...and the filmmakers forgot a main rule that James Cameron has always talked about, you never waste money on huge sets if you aren't going to use them much. They could have shot models and green screened much of the villains' ship interiors or filmed at practical locations ala in a gothic stone castle or church...saving the money for those huge sets for better effects shots elsewhere.
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Babylon A.D. is going to bomb hard and so will Hannibal. Fast and Furious and Riddick are the only things that's keeping Vin from filing chapter 11.
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There. Someone had to just say it in the subject line. It was god awful dross of which the kindest thing I can say about it is that it was a Krull rip off with a bigger budget.
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That's the distinct feeling I got at the end of Chronicles of Riddick. So, yeah. I'll take some more of that, please.
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Aug. 26, 2008, 6:38 a.m. CST
Can't wait for more creative names. Underverse! Crematoria!
by Stalin vs Predator
Furya! <p> <p> Let me predict some: Aqualon - the water planet! Desertia - the sand planet! The Barbanoids - a race of savage warriors who inhabit Desertia's only part that has forests... and is called Woodelia! <p> <p> But, for some reason, I have a feeling that instead it will be set on the small, dull and dusty planet of Lowbudgia, in Vin's adapted hometown of Nocareera.
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I seem to remember reading somewhere (does Twohy have a blog?) that they'd received an amount of money from someone who wanted to see it happen. It was a smaller amount, and it would probably come out to more of a Pitch Black Budget than a CoR budget, but I think that's probably for the best. I just hope Twohy nails the script this time out and it's better than CoR.
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Let there be more Riddick...
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by doing Babylon A.D.
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Good to see ya. I also like the idea of more Riddick. Loved Pitch Black. Found Chronicles of Riddick good fun. They come up with two more, I'm all for it. <br><br> Sometimes movies get made just because someone really, really wants them to be.
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True story!
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I haven't checked in a while, but still visiting the halls of the past?
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Take a smaller budget, cut everything down to basics and then make a badass movie with what you have. A good filmmaker can make a $30 million movie look like a $60 million movie. They could learn a little something from Rodriguez and Del Toro. Twohy has experience with smaller budgets (Pitch Black is the perfect example). It all depends on if Diesel is still demanding a ridiculous salary or not (I'm guessing he's not).
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Chronicles is one of my favorite movies.
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...pretty much killed this franchise... or should have. That shit was nigh-unwatchable.
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..Love Riddick. WOuld love to see these sequels done with a lower budget.
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won't affect this. Seriously, here is the director himself talking about Babylon A.D.: <P> "Talking to AMC, French import Mathieu Kassovitz ripped apart his own movie. "I'm very unhappy with the film," he admits. However, he's not taking any of the blame. He says, "I never had a chance to do one scene the way it was written or the way I wanted it to be. The script wasn't respected. Bad producers, bad partners, it was a terrible experience." The result was a film which he categorizes as "pure violence and stupidity." Kassovitz wanted to say something substantive with the film, but instead he ended up with a movie that plays "like a bad episode of 24." <P> As for Riddick, I loved Pitch Black and thought Chronicles was watchable, and would be quite happy to see more, but I think a scale-down might be a good thing-as long as it's a scale-down that is known from the script level.
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if you hated CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK, you squat when you pee.
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My expectations have just been raised for Babylon A.D.
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Harry nailed it in his description of the second one. If felt like something you'd see on the sci-fi channel. It was really cheap. And while a lot had obviously been put into creating the mythology, I'll be honest with you... IT WAS STUPID. It was just dumb. I'm sorry. Dumb dumb dumb. And those two things are what made the movie so dumb. I thought Twohy was a genius after Pitch Black. But then I saw "Below" (remember how heavily that was pushed on this site?) and what a wandering unfocused piece of shit. Was it a submarine movie? A supernatural movie? A ghost movie? The fucking thing could never decide. What an awful film. So as far as these two sequels being made? I don't know. Go talk to Uwe Boll I guess and figure out one of his weird every German dollar is worth 10 American dollars and the movie can gross one fourth of its budget and still make a profit scams. Otherwise, I have no idea how these get made.
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You know it and I know it.
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The moment that Riddick held back from killing the bounty hunter sent after him at the beginning of the film, I knew they'd neutered the character to make him more "family-friendly." Plus, the film had more gaping holes than a 40-year old porn star.<p>One of the few times I honestly felt ripped off after leaving the theatres. NO MORE!!!
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so know what you know.
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Chronicles of Riddick was just way over the top. I would be down for more sequels if they tone it down this time. Focus on Riddick the bad ass fugitive and not make him a religious figure.
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Yes, CoR was a very different style of film than Pitch Black. Yes, it was verging on space opera rather than the caustrophobic terror of the original. But it was also great stuff, esp the sequence on the prison planet and the general hotness of Alexa Davalos.
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... but that final scene where Riddick doesn't quite realize what he's done and takes a seat at the throne . . . Su-fucking-perb! A great set up for whats to come.
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was the move from a somewhat hard sci-fi story to a more fantasy based space opera. Too much Necromonger, Elemental, Furyan stuff dumped into a world that didn't seem to accomodate them originally. And they were not fleshed out to exist in the world. <P> Everything with Riddick and the bounty hunters and Kyra and Crematoria worked fine. And while toning Riddick down was silly, they didnt make much of his percieved conversion at the end of Pitch Black. I don't mean a religious conversion, I mean man rejoining the humn race. They could have built that sacrifice made for him on the planet a searing iron burning it's way through his heart, and still kept a hard edged bad ass. As it was, we got Riddick the comic book. Most of you might have been happy with that, but the pieces were there for a superior film to Pitch Black, but we got an inferior one. Still, Im up for a sequel.
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Tough guy (Vin Diesel) in the future.
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Do it.
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He and Riddick can team up.
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Ouch
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of a '70s prog rock concept album by Yes or ELP, and I mean that in the best possible way. I actually thought it was fun.
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I didn't like Chronicles all that much up until the last scene which looked like something from Conan the King and then I got it. This was Conan in space. I want more Conan in space.
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Aug. 26, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST
Did Vin Diesel finally realize he's a shitty actor again?
by Alkeoholic77
And that he doesnt' ever need to try to do those tough guy mob comedies or those little indy films.
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Which is why DocPaz has said Twohy would be a great choice to do the new Conan.
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Every one of his lines is just pure awesome. "Theirs only one speed...my speed." Come on. Lighten up. Thats some funny cool shit.
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Just askin'.
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Come on, you gotta admit it was a silly ass movie.
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Great Atari 2600 reference...and a game inspired by the Warner (now Time Warner) brass who had made Ray Kassar head of Atari back in the day. Ray reversed is "Yar" of course. Thus the programmer turned the head of Atari into a space mosquito. And yes, I want to see more big screen adventures of Riddick. I loved how the last film invoked Conan a tad bit at the end.
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Know what also kicks ass? The fucking music. We need this shit NOW! Please don't let this die.
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Fuck this. Check out an awesome breakdown of the ENTIRE War Journal debacle: http://tiny.cc/YvanV
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Who cares about the punisher and the war journal.
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Have cum again.
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no one really, but the blog post is a facinating look at how LionsGate fuckes things up. Even Midnight Meat train, which I WAS looking forward to. Read it an you'll see what I mean.
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yeah, after reading that blog post, it seem that YOU are the only person who's going to see it in theaters. which sux.
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The f/x on Creamatoria or whatever it was called; That cool looking black chick; the way that traitor guy melts away; and even though most say thet Colm Feore was miscast, I disagree, in the early scenes where he was wearing his helmet he looked like he jumped out of a Drulliet "Lone Sloane" comic. Very cool.
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I just thought it was boring as hell. I didn't like how they had to run from light instead of the dark in one scene and that guy with the space mullet...
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Diesel is turning into a one-trick-pony with these style flicks.
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Wasn't Vin 'the bald' Deisel touted as the next big muscley action dude and then everyone realised his best work was grunting like an iron giant because xxx and fast too whatever were shit.
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...like your talking to someone educated in the poenal system.... In fact, don't pretend."<br><br>Ah, Riddick quotes.
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"It's been a long time since I smelled beautiful."<p> Awful. The rest is bad ass.
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I just finished watching my PITCH BLACK and RIDDICK DVDs over the past 3 days, and was pissed off there isn't more of them. The movies aren't perfect, but there's more good stuff going on then bad. I get a major FLASH GORDON vibe on the 2nd one. I love how there are never any clear cut good guys or bad guys. I love the design of everything, even if the CGI gets a bit cheap. The director's got a great style. And the cliffhanger at the end of the 2nd one really needs closure. Can't give Riddick enough love without going gay.
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PS3 and Xbox360. Don't kill yourself trying to track down an old copy if you have either of those systems.
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Keep the story claustrophic, and have just a few characters up close. How about the Lord Marshall has a trap that throws Riddick into the Under-verse? I always thought telling us but not showing us the Under-verse was a major story weakness, something beginners might do. And NO EXPOSITION! AT ALL! Just let Vin find himself armed with a knife, facing gigantic monsters and not having a clue how he got there.
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I haven't ever seen the animated movie, but I would like to. Where does it fit in, storywise? Before PB or between PB and CoR?
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"Sista, they don't know what to do with ONE of me."<br><br>Ah, Riddick quotes
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I think the best thing about Riddick as a character is that if you capture him...well it's because he let you. He's always in control and is always two steps ahead of the other guys. Probably one of the most promising anti-heroes we've had. Plus the ending reminded me of the ending for conkers bad fur day. Yeah.
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First, you took the job. Second, you came light. A four man crew for me? Fucking insulting. But the worst mistake you made...empty gun rack." Ah Riddick quotes.
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More suspenseful, tighter story. Chronicles was like Conan in space, which isn't terrible in my eyes. I just wish the story was a less like a Sci-Fi Channel original. <br><br>"Under-verse" please. Under what? Our own Universe? Is there an "Over-Verse"? A "Slightly-to-the-left-Verse?
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...that thinks that Vin Diesel actually has a bit of talent in him? If he stopped doing crap lake 4Fast4Furious and fucking Pacifier, he could shine. Not like some other great actors, but every so often I see a bit of potential light up.<br> <br> I haven't seen Pitch Black. I saw Chronicles when I was younger, and didn't think it was that bad. Maybe I'll give them another go. Babylon's director is REALLY talking shit about his new film though. Congrats Fox, you've done it again.
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Fucking non-existent edit button
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Starring Vin Diesel
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Merceneries. Elementals. Necromongers. Shit, I've never been so popular.
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there;s charisma under that oafish exterior. But being a big guy in hollywood means you MUST do action roles. Unless he got really fat, then he might be taken seriosuly as a performer. A bad wig and a courtroom drama isn't going to cut it, even if it is directed by Lumet.
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Aug. 26, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST
Probably shouldn't tell 'em what happened to the last crew.
by knowthyself
Lesson Learned. No such word as "friend"
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I bleieve the animated film takes place between PB and CoR.
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...there WAS no "Underverse"... it was just a system of control, kinda like we have here on Earth with churches and their ridiculous notions of "heaven" and "hell". Figure this stuff out, for crying out loud. Anyways, CoR still sucked ass. And, abbreviating the title makes it sound like an old British exclamation.
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Where di the emperor dude get his powers then?
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Just as they reached the first big scene, where the flying birds come out to attack Claudia Black, a drunk went walking down the aisle stood there, and blocked my view. Then, at the end when the things come back after the blond, the drunk gets up into the aisle, stands there, blocks my view again and then leaves. I could have killed THAT fuck with a teacup.
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Where di the emperor dude get his powers then? <br><br>I would've prefered your explanation, but sadly, there was an Underverse in the movie... right underneath our own Universe.
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Absolutely loved it. I'd love for them to make a sequel.
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The Underverse. So yes it does exist.
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with spiritual thingees like elementals flying about, an underverse isnt far fetched. It would have seemed off in Pitch Black, but not the world of COR. <P> And my guess is that Riddick will take the body of Kyra to the underverse, in hopes of reviving her.
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was okay. Sort of. Riddick was an interesting character anyway. COR was over blown, self indulgent bollocks. Judi Dench's entire role was basically exposition. Those dog/wolf beast things in the prison were laughable.
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But some of the sets and costumes were awful, the whole underverse plot seemed retarded to me, but I loved the sequences w/ the bounty hunters and in the prison, and Vin was perfect in it.
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Aug. 26, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST
Babylon A.D. + Flop = No Riddick = Vin Diesel waiting tables
by Nerdgasm
I've always wanted to be served a hamburger and a beer by a has been actor. I wonder which sports bar he will be working at?
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...than "The Hobbit", no matter how good that turns out to be. "Riddick" may be a series of sequels, but at least they're an original property. Weird to think that "Pitch Black" is almost 10 years old, though...
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Pitch Black is a cool little sci-fi flick, low budget but entertaining for what it is. Chronicles of Riddick....SUCKED, a mish-mash of ludicrous situations (compared to Pitch Black anyway), bad FX, and poor editing (can't stand that big fight where the sound FX are muted and the only thing we hear is from the shitty soundtrack). Pitch Black was modest in execution but very effective in delivery....while CoR was like cramming a elephant into a shoe-box, it just dosent FIT IN.
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Didn't catch Pitch Black until everyone had already talked about, but was intrigued. I LOVED Chronicles of Riddick -- and I can't quite explain why, but part of it was the general ambiguousness that someone else mentioned -- no clear-cut "good guys" or "bad guys", and a twisty narrative that just went for broke in the fantasy and casting departments (Judi F'ing Dench?!). I liked its ambition and its relentlessness, and would have loved to have seen a trilogy, but the film hasn't done well enough to warrant them. Unfortunately, if they get made at all, they'll now be relegated to low-budget, all but direct-to-dvd hell, which kind of makes them not worth doing anyway... Do it BIG or don't do it at all... Twohy's an interesting dude, for sure...
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I actually preferred the *Theatrical Cut* over the Director's cut -- I liked the tight, intense narrative in the theatrical version, vs. the extraneous characters and cheesiness of the extended (or original) cut.
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this trilgy died years ago.
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but the game was really great.. I think it'd be better to expand on that character continuing the video game format. if you haven't had a chance to play it, please do. It's a fun and great game..
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I agree he's got charisma. But it'll take something like meaty American Gods to convince other people. Who knows if anything like that will ever happen, though.
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Remember, he's Satan incarnate. I'd like to discover in the next episode that the denizens of the Underverse are the light-hating flying reptiles from Pitch Black. Only bigger, and smarter. Of course I'm stealing ideas from the vastly-underrated "The Mist", where the critters that were killing everyone were just vermin from the other dimension, and not its rulers.
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I made it thru that easier than that turdball Serenity. The SciFi movie well is so dried up....give me something!
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....so stop all the hate. A lot of your standards are just way too high. NAME 5 BETTER SCI-FI MOVIES SINCE COR CAME OUT!
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Best line in CoR. Bring back Nick Chinlund as Toombs!
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...the one where he's fleeing from the Merc's across the alien terrain, is one that stands out in my mind even to this day when discussing sci fi action. That was just a cool scene!
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At the end of the day it comes down to whether or not the movies made enough money to justify sequelization, passionate fanboy opiniions aside. I can't see them bringing this thing in at under $100 mill for it to not suck unwashed donkey balls, and I am equally unsure there is $150 mill gross out there for a theatrical release, given the quality of CoR.
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that hs to be one of the most boring fucking movies.
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It felt epic without overdoing it. The direction and art were wonderful. Excellent tie in's overall with the 2004 PC game (which still looks awesome today in 2008). More Riddick movies please!
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is what COR is for me - it's a lazy sunday - you're slightly hungover - throw COR in the dvd player, kick back and enjoy, what feels like an 80's action/sci fi fest. I'll be there for more
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There were some great moments throughout the movie, a few surprisingly good lines, and some intriguing ideas, but a lot of the writing was just really sloppy and the special effects weren't all that special (with that lame-ass CG tiger-thing easily being the most painfully retarded effect ever put on film). Mostly, I think the problem was they were trying to do entirely too much with the movie. It's obvious that they wanted it to be epic, but they rushed it and, as a result, they were just all over the place and the writing, the pacing, the story, and most of the dialogue really suffered. Of course, the forced and juvenile attempts to revel in the bad-ass-osity of ALL the characters didn't help. A lot of it was just so over the top it was ridiculous. If they managed to bring that down a notch, really sharpen up the writing, and maybe scale things back to something a little smaller and more intimate like Pitch Black, then they might be able to rebound and save the franchise. Though, sadly, I'm not optimistic.
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I loved Pitch Black. Chronicles of Riddick too (stylistically, it was very tight - the baddies reminded me of something out of Warhammer 40k). Bring on the sequels.
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One more in line with Pitch Black, and one more in line with Chronicles' LOTR view. I like when someone said "Conan in Space", if they really want to get it right, the LOTR part, they need to go in the direction of the first Conan film, hard core, that was a good/great film!!! The last shot of Riddick in Chronicles, as he sat back in the chair and realized what was going on around him was amazing.<BR><BR>I wish that the whole film had been made out of moments like that. The villain was too clean, too proper, too verbose and too available to the the audience and his people, he should have been in the shadows, and quietly sinister like James Earl Jones in Conan, and the same for Riddick, for that matter. We need a villain who is more Trent Renzor or Marylin Manson in terms of demeanor, sort of like Health Ledger in Dark Knight.
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Aug. 26, 2008, 10:19 p.m. CST
Yes Please! If they can make a sequel to Fantastic Four....
by Stormwatcher
Then why not a movie franchise that was actually good? Besides, they owe us, that ending while awesome needs resolution. Even if just 1 more movie to finish the series. Conan in Space. Like it. Glad to see all the love here on the Talkback. Means we all realize that we were bitching cuz it wasn't perfect when instead we get shit like Transformers and stuff and just accept stupid loud movies now. Seriously, why would anyone here NOT want to see it get made, even those who say they hated it, they know they would watch it.
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I don't care about box office, your an asshole if you care how much a movie makes to determine your feelings on it. What I care about is something original and badass. This had both, plus a great xbox game. Damn that was a fine game.
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...and not in a good way. They better up the ante and make sequels as good as the first one.
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Just saying...
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Someone brought this up earlier, and this is one of the things that just pulls me out of a movie. Yes, I am aware that It is hotter in the direct sunlight than it is in the shade. Of course, generally speaking this can depend on a number of factors. For example, if you are in a frozen wasteland, it might actually be COLDER in the sunlight than it is in the shade, depending on whether or not the shelter that provides shade for you also captures your body heat and insulates you from the cold wilderness outside. But generally speaking, let's say that it's hotter in the sunlight than it is in the shade. Still, as long as there is an atmosphere, won't that RETAIN HEAT? As in, suppose you're living in Florida in the summer. You're on the beach, and it's hot, so you stand under a tree to get some shade (not that there are many trees on the beach, so let's change that tree into an umbrella). You're now in the shade, and it's cooler. But here's the thing...it's not THAT much cooler. Because won't the hot air still be mixing with the cool air under the umbrella? Granted, the situation seen in Chrinles of Riddick might work on the MOON. Because the moon has no atmosphere. So there's no atmosphere to protect you from scorching solar radiation. And there's no atmosphere to retain heat, so that you don't freeze solid when the sun goes away. But when we're talking about a planet with an atmosphere (the characters in Chronicles of Riddick weren't wearing space suits), doesn't that sort of go right out the window? I mean, yes, it's hotter in the shade. However, direct sunlight INSTANTLY INCINERATES PEOPLE. If this planet has an atmosphere similar enough to normal human conditions to allow people to run across the surface of the planet with 100% efficiency and not DIE, then how is getting in the shade gonna help? Yes, direct sunlight might raise the air temperature to 4000 degrees Celsius. But the point is that the sun is going to raise the AIR temperature. So when you try to hide from the sun by getting in the shade, it very well may be cooler. But the surrounding 4000 degree air is going to mix with the air in the shade, raising the temperature in the shade to a good 2000 fucking degrees. It's cooler, but who cares? You're still dead.
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Everything since then has since degraded what made it great. This is the perfect example of studios mining a thin but compelling sci-fi/fantasy story for bucks, but only succeeding ing strip-mining it and barely making a profit. Personally, I preferred my own wistful speculations on Riddick's origins and the fate of the survivors to what the Chronicles have delivered. It's just possible that it might still be saved, or at least improved (shouldn't be that hard), but I get the feeling we're going to see some Furyan homeworld battles in flashback, some parent/family tragedy a la Conan, re-hashed space-opera revenge story, finally seeing Riddick become either lonely hero flying off into the sunset to be subsequently worshipped by the slaves he's freed, or crowned ruler of the newly created/discovered Furyan nation, or, less likely, sacrifice himself for those same pitiful dependents/slaves/worshippers. Shit. This is Conan in space.
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Although it ripped off David Lynch, Frank Herbert and HR Giger, it did it in a very entertaining way. I try to watch it every 3 or 4 months.
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Boll MUST work with Diesel. It has to be. I have foreseen it!
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why not MY crap movie. Brendan Fraser...Fantastic Four...Plan 9...
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Necromongers - they are deathdealers! Furyans - they are furious! With this kind of shite, you would have thought George Lucas was behind it. Also the ability to take a surprise hit with a lot to recommend it, Pitch Black, and fuck it up royally in the next film. It's almost a condensed Lucasian arc, I tells ya! Let us all pray that Riddick and all he entails remains in a quiet grave. Amen.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 2:12 a.m. CST
Video game had a better story than the movie...sad.
by WhinyNegativeBitch
The movie was a giant pile of mish mash shit. The concept of some rouge criminal in outer space was cool. But then the retards wanted to go and make DUNE/STAR WARS/KRULL instead. And it sucked.
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I'm taking your challenge to name 5 better sci-fi movies since CHRONICLES came out. 1. CHILDREN OF MEN. 2. WALL-E. 3. SUNSHINE. 4. WAR OF THE WORLDS. 5. SERENITY 6. STAR WARS PART 3 (sorry, it's true) 7. There must be other sci-fi movies that have come out in the past 4 years.<p> Let's be honest, CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK is not a great sci-fi fantasy movie. It's silly and dumb and full of unintentional laughs ("I haven't smelled beautiful in a long time" is my personal favorite) and betrays its whole "serial killer chosen one" concept by opting for a PG-13 rating and not having him ever do anything bad at all. I was hoping for a genuinely smart and good lowbrow movie like John Carpenter used to do or early Schwarzenegger, but this is not that good of a movie. Let's not fool ourselves.<p> But... I still like it. I would've preferred "genuinely good" but "weird, stupid fun" is also acceptable. And it has that great ending so yes, please, make another one. I approve of Vin's mission of getting somebody to accidentally greenlight this.
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CoR looked like an afterthought. A cash-in on PB's success. Vin should have created a new character for CoR instead of using Riddick.
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...being better. But Episode III? hhhhhmmmmm.......there are good chunks of that film. But as a whole Riddick is more consistent. If Lucas just cut together the 20 minute chunks of goodness and made the greatest 60 minute film of all time, it would be unstoppable.
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but when I rented Chronicles years ago I gave up after 10 minutes of space/planet gibberish. If I need all that exposition just to know whats going on, then screw it.
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Neigh means Neigh! Oyage!
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And I have to say the film has aged well.<p> I actually watched it sober and have to say they could explore the story further as Riddick struggles with burden of leadership.<p> I would check that out.
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Isn't there like 1 minute of exposition followed by 2 hours of non-stop action? That's what I remember.
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I think Pitch Black worked well because it was fresh spin on a creature sci-fi story and the characters were given a little depth.<p> It also was fun to watch Riddick struggle with the fact that he actually started to give a shit about the others and needed to help them.
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CoR has been added to my queue. I feel asleep after 30 minutes as I was bored to tears and didn't wake up until I was elbowed during the closing credits.<p>The movie was a huge departure from Pitch Black and that, along with the PG-13 rating, probably killed it at the theater as the base audience felt like they were no longer in the same universe.
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is what we want to see. I can seem him fleeing the responsibility, or as I said before, taking Kyra's body with him, and using his Necromonger clout as a way to find the underverse. <P> Personally, I don't want to see any Necromongers in the new film. Let's have Riddick dissolve their following, pronounce the Lord Marshall a liar, and then head out himself, perhaps with a crew to find the Underverse. Most importantly, it should involve Riddick having a fresh adventure that is more sci-fi based.
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...but did Riddick really do anything nasty in the first? I know he has the killer back-story....but refresh my memory. How is he more villainous in the first?
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I was not paying attention
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BTDKYD was fucking great! by HoboCode Aug 27th, 2008 09:13:36 AM Really loved it. I have to say the ending threw me for a loop. I should have seen it coming. I spent the whole movie trying to figure out how Andy was going to pull it off and then after he got shot and his wife left him I was like WTF? Brilliant ending.
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He was basically thrown into this situation of leading these people. He doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. To have a new race of baddies invade Helion Prime and look to Riddick for leadership has a whole lotta great possibility.
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...his new kingdom looks to him for leadership, not the baddies.
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One of the struggles would have been leaving as leader and deciding to come back.<p> Yes, Riddick as a leader of a kingdom would be contrary to his character from Pitch Black, but I would like to see him have to make the decision.<p> You know a part of his selfish side woould like the pampering and power, but his true 'animal' side (Like when he pulled a Crocidile Dundee on that prison poodle) would be a very strong thing to keep bottled up.<p> But those that know me also know that I would like some creatures as the villians in the next.<p> Maybe an evolution of the creatures from Pitch Black as they leave the other planet to look for darkness.<p> Also have one of them larger, a superboss of the rest that is smarter.
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It was not awful, but it was not good either. It suffered from the bigger is better syndrome. Jettison al the midchlorian/furyan crap. Take him back to a single adventure. In short Pitch Black II not Riddick 3.
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I think a Riddick sequel should start out with Riddick escaping fro mhis newfound throng of zealous Necromonger worshippers and then going from there.
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He was running from his past in Pitch Black and he started exploring it in Riddick.<p>
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Take us on a whole new set of "chronicles."
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in this one he should dealve headlong into his past and come to terms with it. Possibly relate this to the Underverse.
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I know. Thats what I thought. It didn't seem that drastic to me. It felt pretty smooth. And he is a changed man now. He is not the same locked up killer from Pitch Black. In between the two he was on the run for years, and it seems he realized he would rather have the company now. People act like he was Charlie Manson in the PB and Richard Simmons in COR.
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...but I'm just not interested in seeing another green-screen world, and that's what it would be.
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Danny is right, he wasn't that different. And, whether people admit it or not, Pitch Black was about the man reconnecting with his humanity. Any other genre flick would have ended with Riddick being only slightly good enough to sacrifice himself for the others, leaving him a vague villain/hero. Most movies wouldn't have the balls to take the hardcore character and let someone else SAVE him, and let him be rocked to the core by it. Him screaming into the rain "Not for me!" was a big step for that kind of movie. And it totally worked. <P> So, I expected to see a changed Riddick, not a pansy, but a man who knows he is different and is dangerous in a new way, to a diff group of people. <P> But COR's problem is they only sort of reflected this change, and didn't make it much of a grappling point. Also, I thought there would be more struggle against the change in Riddick, and the false rebirth the Necros are trying to sell. Instead, it all seemed muddled, thematically speaking, and Riddick came off as less of a hard edged character and more of a comic book-esque hero. I didn't hate that, but felt that the meandering is what hurt the film. <P> Also, the script wasnt half as good as the original. <P> Yes, I absolutely believe in God, and I absolutely hate the f---er."
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In a March 8, 2006 article on Comingsoon.net, it was reported that Vin Diesel claimed that a sequel to The Chronicles of Riddick was in the works. According to him, he had already written a storyline that covered a trilogy which began with the Chronicles of Riddick. <p> Another article on Comingsoon.net written on March 11, 2005 reports that Vin Diesel states that Chronicles 2 was to deal with The Underverse, while Chronicles 3 was to conclude the series with a return to Furya. <p> An article dated November 10, 2007 on countingdown.com, further indicates that a sequel may be in works - "We're talking about it". David Twohy indicates however that it "probably won't be a Universal movie and probably will be an independent movie" seeing a much smaller budget.
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Personally I can't see him staying king or leader, but going into exile to shore up his past (which includes the fighting, creatures, killing) and in the end being alone again.<p> After Pitch Black you saw that despite having the role of leader, he was basically alone again (which was confirmed in Riddick as he had lost touch with his passengers).<p> And yes, I'm harping on the creature bit, but what I liked about Pitch Black was despite him being human, deep down he was an animal just like the dark dwellers.<p> That primal instict so close to the surface would seem to me a sort of tragic route for requiring a solo future, not one as a leader entrenched in society.
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come back. She is the only character link all the way to PB, besides Riddick, and I think that could be interesting. Especially, if there some thematic tie that will connect the Underverse stuff to the events of Pitch Black. <P> I think someone above mentioned what if the Underverse is populated by monsters similar to those on the planet in PB.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST
I'll watch Pitch Black and Riddick back to back...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
...this weekend and see how CoR stacks up. I'll use a coffee I.V. if I have to in order to stay awake.
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I think I'll do the same. Havent seen Riddick since theaters.
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..in PB. Its the situation that was impactful in Riddick's life. The fact that it was probably the first time he had helped a human being. The monsters are not important. I don't like the idea of them playing some larger role in the universe. They are just monsters on a planet...there are probably thousands of other planets with different monsters.
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I have zero problem with his character change, it was all the mythological junk they saddled him with. The Furyan crap. The Necros. Just garbage. He was a bad ass, but their was no need to backload his story with so much crap. And the Necros were a dumb concept. Keep the character growing, jettison all the backstory. I agree with Node, have him escape the necros, crash land somewhere and do the one man gang thing against a planet of pitch black aliens.
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...with that much ass-kicking. Its like dozing off in a strip-club....a visual feast!!!
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but monsters are cooler than Intergalactic Space Mullets..
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Link it to the creatures from Pitch Black, but have a main creature that has more intellect and cunning.<p> Sort of like a queen xenomorph, but even smarter.<p>
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Aug. 27, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST
toad.....why would you want a movie thats a rehash of the first?
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
I don't get it. How is that interesting? It would feel bizarre to introduce this massive world in COR and then go backwards to a small, simple story with a few characters. That would be like setting Return of the Jedi entirely on Tattooine and having Luke battle a dozen Tusken Raiders for the climax.
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was not that the Underverse is like the PB planet, but that it is a savage, alien place with "biological creatures" and not some spiritual force persay. Maybe, that's part of it. All of the spiritual stuff in the first movie was suggested by Kieth David, and he found hope in what he saw as an invisible hand in practical things: Riddick coming back elicits the "There is my God." <P> If Twohy reveals the Underverse to be a sham, a dangerous vile place, that turns out won't aid Kyra or reveal anything to Riddick, it would force Riddick to look elsewhere, to go beyond the mythology and back to reality. Getting beyond the mythologically reasoning for things, and back to a sci-fi based story. The power the Necros and the Furyan's posess originate from the Underverse, but ina different way then they expected.
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Trust me, Riddick is better at fighting the monsters and sort of moving to their level as in Pitch Black.<p> Yes, I'm a sucker for the creature feature, but in Riddick it seemd to me that he WAS the monster.<p> It was role reversal, as the Church of Uppity tried to figure him out as they feared his power, just like the survivors did as they crashed the dark planet in Pitch Black.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST
I like monsters Chitty....and I think there should be some...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
..I just don't like the idea of a link to the monsters in PB. I didn't think their design was great. There could be something a lot better. I really liked that one guy with his face in the mask that could detect the people they are looking for. I forget what he does exactly. His design was fucking crazy!
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Kyra survives the events of COR intact, but changed somehow. Riddick in control of the Necros, but the Underverse is actually a trap, housing a dead alien race who would give power to any who would seek to ressurect them,or something. Then you have Riddick vs. this sinister force, that vies for control of the Necromonger legion.
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I don't recall that.
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as an elemental, I don't she would be a human foil for Riddick anymore.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST
The Necromongers have him on a chain leash.....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...on Crematoria. His head is in a scuba mask sort of thing, and his face looks a little like The Predator. He makes this weird clicking sound when he scans the area...
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Aug. 27, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST
DGDB, I saw Riddick after putting in a half day at work...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
...driving 5 hours to Atlanta, tossing back a few beers and then heading out to the late show exhausted. In all fairness to CoR, I never gave it a shot. I guess I always assumed that because I fell asleep it was one of the worst movies ever.<p>It gets a second chance this weekend though.<p>Good to hear you're enjoying Feeder. Silent Cry is their newest album that came out last month. It's some of their best work.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST
but saying Kyra is alive is soap-operaish.....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...I hate that. They milk the emotion with her death and bring her back in 3 for convenience of story, saying her wound wasn't that bad after all.
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Like HOD, I saw COR very late one night during the summer, a summer I was pretty stressed out, what with planning a wedding and looking for a job and finishing up a degree, and I almost fell asleep myself. I should really see it again. The kicker is a few months ago, Target was selling the Riddick trilogy for 10 bucks, and I didnt buy it. <P> Has anyone see the DC of COR? I heard it references Riddick's wife on Furya or something?
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they totally did that with Blade 2 and almost everyone loves it. And I don't mean, wound wasn't as bad. We never saw her actually die, and we still don't understand the power of the Necros. And if Star Trek can do it, so can Riddick.
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I haven't watched it in a few years. But there are a few quick flashbacks and small character moments. Nothing big....but it does add to it.
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That took itself too seriously, a'la Matrix Reloaded. They grafted too much crap on to him. My suggestion is to return to his roots. Sort of like what Star Trek II wrath of khan did. Emphasize what made his character great, get rid of the extraneous Necro junk. Riddick alone fighting monsters, and mercenaries, and saving a family, is afr better than any Chronicles rehash
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Aug. 27, 2008, 10:14 a.m. CST
Blade is dealing with vampires...thats different.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
And Star Trek blows. I don't think they will bring her back. It's all about Riddick....not Kyra.
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..I think there a few lines mentioning he had a wife though. And they give Riddick a couple F-bombs to throw down, which is always good.
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—The first reveal of Kyra on Crematoria (7m33s-8m52s); <p> —A fellow Furyan, Shirah (Kristin Lehman—all her scenes were cut from the TC), hints at Riddick’s fate while he is in Cryo-sleep (8m52s-9m50s); <p> —The Purifier’s (Linus Roache) speech to the Helion Prime public (extended - 32m); <p> —The first confrontation between Riddick and the Lord Marshal (extended – 36m); <p> —Shirah appears to Riddick again during his interrogation (40m40s); <p> —At Home with the Vaakos—Lord and Lady Vaako (Karl Urban and Thandie Newton) get a little rougher with each other than in the TC (48m25s); <p> —One of Toombs’ team (Christina Cox) finds herself attracted to an unconscious Riddick (50m16s-51m26s); <p> —Riddick, Kyra and ‘The Guv’ (Yorick Van Wageningen) in slam on Crematoria (1h05m14s-1h06m14s) <p> —An uncut fight scene between the slam guards and the Mercs (1h15m00s); <p> —Another quick scene between Christina Cox and Vin Diesel (1h17m40s); <p> —An extension of the scene between Riddick and Vaako on the surface of Crematoria (including another appearance by Shirah) (1h34m40s); <p> —At Home with the Vaakos II—more ambitious discussions about bringing about the Lord Marshal’s downfall (1h41m21s);
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I dont think she is his wife though. She talks a lot more about the prophecy involving Riddick defeating this evil force I believe....
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if she doesnt come back, I doubt anyone will return, and the ENTIRE story from COR will be discussed in passing. They will need a smaller budget, and therefore the Necro empire will be absent.
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Have the third start out with Riddick holding Kyra in his arms and her whispering something in his ear.<p> He gives the look of desperation and rage as she passes away.<p> He now knows he has a son being held in the underverse.<p> This was the male Furyan the Necros were after.<p> They travel to the underverse at the end of the universe and battle creatures and the sort of leader of the region of the underverse they are in.<p> Make the leader not human, but a sort of humaniod creature that can disquise himself.<p> Maybe Billy Zane from Demon Knight.<p> Make the kid very small, so he doesn't try to fight creatures with an underverse slingshot or try to hug Riddick, who makes the WTF face to the camera.<p> Make it a true infant with a legacy that Riddick HAS to protect and maybe even sacrifice himself for in the end.<p>
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since it is suggested that Lord Marshall defied death. So Kyra being resurrected isnt too off.
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come from and how would Kyra know him? It cant be hers. She was a freakin little kid when Riddick ran.
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the monsters in Pitch Black aren't important....they are there to instill fear and survival instinct in the character which in turn creates "character development" especially in Riddick, when he realizes they won't survive without him. the monsters were cool, but they aren't important enough to be followed up on.
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Even a trilogy, about a Fly thingy shooting at a big moving sheild thingy, like to get 'Revenge' and stuff, and hiding from spinney things in a gig orange vortex thingy. Or something. That would be cool!
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are saying,myself included, is this: <P> Riddick is better in a savage and wild envrionment against wild and rugged opponents, be it monsters or bounty hunters. He just didnt seem to fit into the political/religious epic Dune stuff of COR. I think seeing him in a wild, rugged sci-fi landscape, battling alien life and what not is what people are advocating. Not that Riddick 3 be a "monster movie". <p> Also, it makes perfect sense for Riddick to try and bring Kyra back, if we think this is Conan-esque. One of the arcs attempted to be put into the Conan films was Conan's desire to resurrect Valeria.
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Not Gig, like a Shed 7 show at Drummonds.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST
The Pacifier of the Fuyrans: The XXX Chronicles of Riddick 2
by ChittyChittyGangBang
I know how the studios love to throw kids in there.<p> I was trying to be funny in an underverse-underhanded way.<p> In all seriousness I think Riddick + some sort of creatures = my interest and $$$.
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You mean to say if the Kyra character doesn't return people won't see this? What the hell? Everyone I know that loved the hell out of COR could give a shit if she came back. I just wanna see Riddick kicking some more ass....I don't really care whose ass it is (Necros, monsters, vampires, Republicans, the government of China) as long as Vin is crushing somebody's face, I'm in.
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Exactly what should be done
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Aug. 27, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST
Riddick's kid being the chosen one is pretty cool...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
He nailed a lot of chicks when he was on the run.....it could work.
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I have to say I'm overjoyed to see that this guy has finally accepted that audiences just want to see him grunt and punch. That 4 Fast 4 Furious trailer is great and hopefully this new positive attitude to sequels is an indication of the end of Vin's dillusions that audiences want to see him do Shakespeare or whatever.<br><br>I mean, it doesn't bother me that Statham is doing like 4 movies a year, and I personally prefer him over Diesel, but it's nice to have another dude who will help in churning out meathead cinema and re-establishing the glory days of the meathead action vehicle.
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what I mean is that regardless of what the handful of fans thinks, I think that when Twohy looks at a new one and back at the last one here is what he sees: <P> What is worth keeping: <P> Necros-too expensive and they have already had a run as villains, and most people didn't like them. <P> Elementals-if we cant get Judy back, should we bother with a replacement? If no Necros, then elementals? Nah. <P> Kyra-well, she did fit in well with making Riddick bad-ass-gave him something to fight for, and helped develop romantic energy as well as a strong female lead. She also is a very strong representative of the Conan aspect. If you want to tie Riddick 3 in without bringing back Necros or referencing the PB planet, you have but one link left: Kyra. <p> That's all Im saying. Kyra is the most interesting thread of the Necro storyline left hanging, and if they pretend she never existed, or just died and move on, I think it would be the wrong move. <P> As is, I don't think Twohy is going with the Necro storyline, but he might attempt the Underverse. As such he could bring along Kyra, giving Riddick a reason to find the Underverse, and Twohy gets to keep his Furyan story, refs to the Necros, and give us a Conan-esque story that might not feel like COR.
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That's the one where Vin has hair.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST
why do you keep saying it has to be Conan-esque?
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
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It wasnt great, but it does make me lament that Vin hasnt tried more non-tough guy stuff. Riddick is great, but I don't need to have every character he plays talk like the rockbiter from Never-Ending Story.
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Thats his voice!! What do you want the guy to do? <p> I enjoyed the hell out of The Pacifier by the way. Great family movie....Vin was hilarious in that.
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because most everyone, and I thought you too, referenced it like being Conan in space. Maybe not you, but if you read above-the average comment is "I thought it was crap, til I realized it was Conan in space." <P> So..you either want one of three things: <P> go back to a smaller, isolated storyline with hard-scifi and maybe creatures. <P> continue on with this story but jettison the epic one man stands alone and seeks his kingdom story, and then dear lord, I don't know what you have. <P> continue on with the feeling of a Conan-esque story of a warrior loner fighting his way across the universe.
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...during Find Me Guilty, while you were staring at Vin Diesel with hair? I dunno if I could do it. I wouldn't hear a word he said...I would just marvel at that fantastic whig.
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but in those tough guy roles it comes down to little terse sound bites..so when he is doing something awesome, and then speaks, all I hear is "MMM.DELICIOUS LIMESTONE."
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did you see Boiler Room? There is a good example of him giving a good performance.
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That is an ignorant comparison....why, because the main guy has muscles, kills a lot of people, and he is a one man army? So The Transporter films are like "Conan in a BMW" ?
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..they'll figure it out. This is a harder question than how to rid the world of poverty.
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I don't think anyone would buy it as a main plot device unless the kid was a newborn.<p> Look at what adding a kid has done the past to movies like The Mummy Returns and The Phantom Menace. <p> It worked in Willow because it was an infant that was helpless and was the prophecy and not a comedic tool flicking buggers into enemies eyes to make them fall off a horse.<p> I don't think anyone wants to watch Riddick changing a daiper while fighting off bounty hunters.<p> Oh lord, I can see him flinging the little cloth shitbomb in an attackers face while holding the kid up to use as a piss cannon.<p> You can't have a kid anymore as the fans will balk at the concept.
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It's Conan in Space, because a warrior rogue whose family was destroyed by a religious cult, and who teams with a bandit woman, fights his way into the company of that cult, is captured and sentenced to death, only to return, kill the leader, lose his bandit woman at the hands of the leader, and then be left with the entire cult looking to him, and it ends with this weary warrior sitting on a throne, with the weight of a kingdom in his hands. <P> That is the plot of Conan the Barbarian.
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Riddick fucks one of the monsters from PB, and you get some weird hybrid like Alien Resurrection.
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That game REALLY made me appreciate the movies more, ESPECIALLY CoR. I played it for years before I picked up Pitch Black and also CoR. I guess for me it is why the 2nd movie actually felt "right".
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yea a baby alien Riddick. Perfect. Someone call Uwe.
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It would be the first child afraid of the light and not the dark!<p> And make that little fucker go overboard like Son of the Mask.<p> Call it the Rascal of Riddick!
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i would have rather seen a prequel to Pitch Black, showing him at his most ruthless, showing the man that caught him and HOW he caught him (can't remember his name, the dude that got his head bitten off by the monster) and have it end with him bording the ship leading up to the events of Pitch Black. THEN have a sequel to Pitch Black....just not the bloated mess that is CoR, none of this "prophecy" and "necro-monger" magical shit....it just didn't fit in with the spirit of Pitch Black at all IMO.
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It will fall into the same trap as Alien Cubed, where they tried to go back to the more claustrophobic suspense roots of the franchise and got shit on for it.
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Awww...its that close to Barbarian? Damn. I thought the Conanesque thing was referring to the spirit of the character in general,. not following a specific plot structure.
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the reasoning for my preference in a prequel is simply his relationship with that dude that caught him, it seemed complex considerding the small dose we got in Pitch Black. i don't HATE CoR, im just not a big fan of movies going from small to HUGE...its like fitting a 300lb man into a 5 year olds shirt, it looks funny and just dosen't make a whole helluva-lot of sense.
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and the spirit of COR was far more pulpy than Pitch, which is why several here are complaining. The appeal of Conan was a brutal but ultimately heroic guy who spent most of his time not being that hero, but more of an opportunist and a rogue, always being thrust into responsibility, not seeking it out. <p> Yea, that's alot of characters but the fantastic bits and the proximity of the plot to the original film, as well as specific shots-last shot is almost identical, is what makes it seem that way. Many reviewers said the same thing at the time.
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I could live with a Pitch Black prequel...that would rock. They should do the prequel, and close it out with a COR sequel.....maybe reveal things in the prequel that will come back to haunt Riddick in the COR sequel. That would tie the whole world together nicely.....
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Aug. 27, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST
I suggest to Mr. Diesel that Riddick die at the end...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
..of this saga. Like he has to give up his own life in the underverse, for his people, thats the deal. They could pull it off in a way that diarrhea shits all over the face of Matrix Revolutions. And I'm talking pea soup green diarrhea, just pouring off the front of Hugo Weaving's face.
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Fuck that. What is with this shit about the hero sacrificing his life all the time. That Christian allegory shit is getting OLD.
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Other than gay ass Neo. Fuck him....
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its a bit cliched but its such a suitable finish for films such as this, anti-hero becomes hero...hero becomes martyr to make up for a lifetime of wickedness, saves alot of people. Riddick is a such a "character-rich" kinda guy, he oozes back-story and deserves a worthy end.
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The Lives of Others was a fantastic film. I loved the ending. Hell, I loved the whole movie.
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I can only recently think of Ripley in Alien 3, which of course she was cloned for 4.
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glad you loved it. Great film, huh?
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I'll tell you, I was sort of apprehensive in the beginning, but then it just sucked me in. The writer dude, wasn't he in The Blackbook?
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What did you have in mind with the hero sacrificing himself getting old Christian allegory thing? Matrix? I admit, it does seem cliché....but if you think about it, its barely been done in films.
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I dont think there are many here who are discussing Riddick now save for us, and I think we have nigh exhausted conjecture.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST
I hate to mention this since I despise the movie..
by just pillow talk
but Bruce in Armageddon sacrificed himself.<p>I feel so dirty now.
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There certainly was sacrifice there, though not a specific hero.
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Didn't Josh Hartnett sacrifice himself for Ben Affleck in Pearl Harbour???.....ewww...now i feel dirty, and who the fuck would take a bullet for Ben Affleck???...what an idiot
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Well maybe not main heroes. I can't really think of much off the top of my head so maybe it only seems like it. Neo, Aslan, Children of Men, Deep Blue Sea Gladiator, Braveheart, TTRL, SPR, etc.
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on that other asteroid die in Deep Impact? God I need a shower now.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 11:41 a.m. CST
pillow.....I'm saying more of a lead hero in a franchise sorta t
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
I think its just Ripley and Neo. <p> Affleck and Bruce screaming, "I LOVE YOU!!!" at one another. Comedy gold. I wish there was a flashback to Affleck and Bruce laying in a park together and Ben is playing with animal crackers on Bruce's tummy, and Bruce giggles when the tiger gets too close to his pierced belly button, and his giggle sounds like the Downey bear.....that would have been sexy.
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Twelve Monkeys-though some will say it wasnt purposeful, it was def christ metaphor with bruce's arms outstretched. <P> Frodo is intended for that sacrifice, is spared it, but is still sort of ushered away because of the journey he undertook. <P> 30 Days of Night. <P> Vader. <P> The Iron Freakin Giant. Also Vin. <P>
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Beowulf, Gladiator, almost all those big epic films end with the death of the hero.
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That scene is in the deleted scenes on the super deluxe DVD.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST
Aslan doesn't count.....that allegory is in yo' face....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Fuck...maybe there is sacrifice everywhere!! I'm wrong again.
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at least its better to type this shit about horrid rancid movie than hear yourself speak it. and thats the funniest shit ive heard in a while DICKBLOOD.....Ben and Bruce with a box of animal crackers its batshit crazy / hilarious....what a parody that would be.
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at the year 2001 in film? We have done 98, 99, 00. 01? My memory is that it was an excellent year.
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...what else does he have going for him?
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brilliant.
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if then a meteorite came crashing down right on top of them.<p>Roll credits.
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Have a little respect.
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I always pictured the Downey Bear sprouting teeth and claws and slaughtering a family.<p> When the cops show up he just turns back the cuteness and nobody knows what happened.<p> Sort of like the Devil's Gift, but with a Downey Bear with a gaping maw and razorblade claws.<p>
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somewhere on the internet, where a little kid's teddy bear has to go into the closet to retrieve the boy who owns him after he was kidnapped by the bogeyman. It was pretty awesome. <P> Also, scour youtube for the Tales from the Darkside ep, Ursa Minor.
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I love that fucking bear. He is a cool dude.
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..Teddy in A.I. = Brilliant
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Bar none!<p> Loved that little fella.<p> If we are out drinking and one of us goes to do something stupid I always say "you will break."<p> Of course we laugh and do it anyway.<p> I think this last time was blowing up a propane tank with a 270 rifle.<p> We are bad about doing shit like that.<p> And that tank went up hard. You could feel the heat wave.
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Very underappreciated film.
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SHUT YOUR MOUTH!<p>I'm talkin' bout Snuggles<p>THEN WE CAN DIG IT!
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You blew up a fucking propane tank?
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Okay I'm pretty late here on the whole Riddick thing, but why not have a prequel where he is sort of a villain? Pitch Black always dealt with him as a real source of fear, then CoR fucked all that up by making him a straight up hero type. I say, make Riddick what he was supposed to be before the first movie: a dak, frightening, unpredictable outlaw. It could be something like a group of bounty hunters tracking him on this exotic world, with a great variation of characters and personalities. All of them are tracking and hunting Riddick. Go ahead and have the planet be inhabited by strange monsters too. For the first half of the movie, Riddick is the movie monster, stalking the bounty hunters and taking them out in clever ways. Then in the second half, after the audience has become accustomed to the remaining hunters' personalities, and find that one or two are like Riddick in that they are simply grudgingly doing what they must to survive, have the monsters on the planet get more intense and aggressive, and make Riddick their savior. Eventually, thier bonds become stronger, and Riddick sacrifices himself to fend off a tremendous monster so the rest may escape (the climax). A fierce battle ensues, Riddick succeeds in getting them into the ship and killing the creature but is nearly killed by the monster in the process. The ship returns shortly after or something to pick up Riddick's body. One of the bounty hunters is the guy from Pitch Black.
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Man....98 and 99 really blew 2000 away....what am I missing? <p> The 6th Day <p> Bring It On <p> Cast Away <p> The Cell <p> The Emperor's New Groove <p> Frequency <p> Gladiator <p> Hollow Man <p> Lost Souls <p> Love & Basketball <p> Titan A.E. <p> Vertical Limit
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then we can expect you to turn up on one of those "ooops, he killed himself" websites?
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Propane tank is some serious business.<p>You best check yo' self before you wreck yo' self, dude. Don't need your wife explaining to your daughter in a few years that she don't have a daddy because he blasted one propane tank too many.
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Awww....2001 is a much better year overall. <p> <p> 3000 Miles to Graceland <p> Ali <p> Artificial Intelligence: A.I. <p> Crazy/Beautiful <p> Exit Wounds <p> Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within <p> Freddy Got Fingered <p> Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone <p> Heartbreakers <p> I Am Sam <p> In the Bedroom <p> Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius <p> Josie and the Pussycats <p> Jurassic Park III <p> Kiss of the Dragon <p> A Knight's Tale <p> Lara Croft: Tomb Raider <p> Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring <p> The Mexican <p> Monsters, Inc. <p> Moulin Rouge! <p> The Mummy Returns <p> The Royal Tenenbaums <p> Thir13en Ghosts
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You'll get your new kit tomorrow. So you're good to go for the next little while. Glad you enjoyed the bunch. I was worried everyone was going to wonder why I was sending them cinematic crap.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST
Yeah....Chitty....that is pretty crazy man....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
..heroine is probably safer than that shit. I would be concerned a piece of metal would hit me in the face.
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yeah because Back to the Future II and III are so 'omg this is the same movie' amirite?
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stuff I liked and loved: <P> A.I. <P> Ali <P> Amelie <P> American Astronaut <P> Atlantis <P> Atanarjuat:Fast Runner <P> Bandits <P> A Beautiful Mind <P> Blow <P> Bridget Jones's Diary <P> The Bunker <P> Brotherhood of the Wolf <P> Captain Corelli's Mandolin <P> Cat's Meow <P> Charlotte Gray <P> Devil's Backbone <P> Dogtown and Z-Boys <P> Donnie Darko <P> Enemy at the Gates <P> Enigma
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I'm lost. Refresh my memory. What are your lists..<p>All this propane and Snuggle talk has got me confused
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And don't worry, the last bunch was cool too. Might I ask what's in it?
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We were listing our favorite films of each year on the last TB. We started at 98.....and our now at 2001.....but I guess its just me doing it now and I feel like a twat. <p> Oh well....feel free to list yours!
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Fucking dumb ass!!
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the JLH Tits film.
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I agree with Dogtown, Enemy at the Gates, and Bridget Jones.... <p> Captain Corelli's Mandolin? Ouch. That burns like a good case of Chlamydia. One of the few films with Cage I just can't watch....
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Final Fantasy: Spirits Within <P> Ghost World <P> Godzilla: All Out Monsters Attack <P> Gosford Park <P> Harry Potter <P> Heartbreakers <P> Hearts in Atlantis <P> In the Bedroom <P> Iron Monkey <P> Joy Ride <P> Jurassic Park 3 <P> Kate and Leopold <P> Kingdom Come <P> K-Pax <P> Lagaan <P> Last Castle <P> Legally Blonde <P> Lord of the Rings: Fellowship <P> Majestic <P> Metropolis (animated)
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Aug. 27, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST
No joke-- I can jerk off to Heartbreakers....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...any time of day, any day of year. Christmas morning....if Heartbreakers is on TV.....fuck......about to leave for my Grandmother's funeral.....if Heartbreakers is on-- I'm not leaving!! I am NOT leaving!!
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ha! Yea, I'm basing that off watching Corelli's once and enjoying it. Thats all.
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Gosford Park, Majestic, and K-Pax....all fine films.
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Mexican <P> Millenium Actress <P> Monsoon Wedding <P> Monster's Inc. <P> Moulin Rouge! <P> Mulholland Drive <P> Man Who Wasn't There <P> No Man's Land <P> Nowhere in Africa <P> Ocean's Eleven <P> The Others <P> The Pledge <P> Princess Diaries <P> Royal Tenenbaums <P> Scotland PA <P> Serendipity <P> Shrek <P> Spy Game <P> Spy Kids <P> Tailor of Panama
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http://tinyurl.com/5jwmhf
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Vanilla Sky <P> Vidocq <P> Series 7 <P> Session Nine <P> Memento <P> Happy Accidents <P> Thirteen Conversations about one thing
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Tell them Kloipy says all is right in the world.
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But man did that movie get slaughterd by critics.
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It was a good psuedo sci-fi drama. It had good performances and it was one of those films that was a staple back then-the big popcorn drama. In the early 2000s, there was one of these every week. And they were somewhat popular, especially in the weeks after 9-11. Last Castle. Hardball. Hearts in Atlantis. K-Pax.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST
what the fuck....I keep posting on the wrong TB's.....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Jonah... <p> Did you read the write up about The Spirit? That movie looks like its gonna stink worse than Dan Akroyd's asshole
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Aug. 27, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST
JLH went and lost an insane amount of weight...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
...after those photos of her in a bikini hit the nets. She looks too thin now. But still, she's smokin' in Heartbreakers and it was a passable movie to boot.<p>Enemy at the Gates is one of those movies that I put on a pedestal. Can't explain why I go gonzo insane for it......*thinks*........headshots, Hoskins, Pearlman, Harris, Law and Weisz's sweet dumper, OK, I guess I can see why.<p>Gosford park on the other hand, everyone knows what list I put that on, right?<p>DGDB, I got your e-mail and responded.<p>Kungfu, good question. Let me see if I can remember. I think it's mostly titles that will be foreign (pun intended) to you: Open City, Musa, Shinobi, Sinking of Japan, Protege, I'm A Cyborg, The Restless, and per your request Sukiyaki Western Django, which unless you have a DVD player with DIVX capability, you'll have to watch on a computer.
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What the hell is there to complain about? Space and Bridges give awesome performances...its a touching film. Were people pissed he didn't turn into some fucking green alien that looked like Mike Wazowski at the end, or what? I really really dug the photography and original score.
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Im quite excited for the dvd shipment. Whats in mine again? Though I could prob wait til tomorrow and see then.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 1:10 p.m. CST
Jarv will be gone for at least another week I think
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Pillow is lurking around here somewhere. Abom avoids our TBs as he told me he wants to "stay on target" so we won't be seeing him.<p>What TB is Kloipy hiding out in?
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Ever seen Dragon Tiger Gate? It's a kungfu movie from China starring the great Donnie Yen. The action doesn't really compare to Sha Po Lang since it's a lot more fantasy and superheo oriented, but it's still a fun hour and a half and is certainly worth your time in my opinion.
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It actually did decently at the box office, but I think all critics saw were a slow drama that was too understated. Ebert, to his credit, saw it for what it was and praised it.
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Funny thing about reading the Spirit review, it made me think it sounds silly, but for whatever reason gave me a FIERCE desire to rewatch Sin City. I don't know why. I wasnt much of a fan the first time.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST
By the way, that list is what EVERYONE is getting...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
...although Chitty, Mavra and ThereWolf are also getting the stuff from the first kit.<p>Jonah, since I know you have DIVX capability, I also threw in Going By The Book, The Guard Post, The Show Must Go On, Empress and Her Warriors, Three Kingdoms, Red Cliff and The Chaser.<p>I burned through 200 DVDs between both kits. That's more DVDs than I've burned for myself in 3 years.<p>My computer said "No mas!" last night.
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What the fuck does, "Stay on target" mean? Whats the target? <p> I think the founding four got a little upset about us taking over the TB's while waving the flag of the CoC. Thats why I don't bring it up anymore....thats more a pillow, abom, jarv, kloipy thang......we're something different.
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Got the package. Wow your better then the jackass who's got my money from E-bay. Awesome man. I'll having something to do while looking for jobs when i move.
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...and Chitty....just say no to blowing up propane tanks!!
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I think everyone has missed the point as to why Pitch was so much better. <P> Keith David.
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I wish I could unwatch that one. It made Flash Point look like Oscar bait. It had some neat visuals but it was just incoherent.
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he was kick ass in both Men at Work and Dead Presidents....and fuck me-- check out his IMDB....this guy works non-stop!!
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Aug. 27, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST
there is a Behind Enemy Lines 3....set in Columbia?
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Fuck yes!
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Im hooked on korean crime thrillers..When you sent the first batch, my heart initially sank when I realized so many were crime films of some sort. Then I watched them, and as I perused the unknown titles of this batch, as I saw the description crime thriller, I became interested. Nice job HOD. You have brought to a new appreciation of an entire sub-genre.
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is like a black ron perlman. Works alot and is always awesome.
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Love that guy.<p>Jarv and Pillow are great sports because they contribute just as much as we do to these TBs, but I can only talk about the TB topic so long even if it's religion and politics.<p>And I'm going to lay off the burning until Thanksgiving. Then you all will get your Christmas batches.<p>Series, since you have DIVX capability as well, I did send you Red Cliff and Western Django, right?
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Emilio wrote and directed Men At Work? What a fucking genius.....
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you don't need to send anymore packages. Thanks for all your effort. I havent forgotten about repaying you, just haven't figured it out yet.
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I seem to recall you saying you had a lineup for friday night? Are there movies you sent you still havent seen? If so, Ill try to synch up and we could discuss them.
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I found that the Koreans are the new kings of the crime thriller genre. In fact, it's really the only genre they do consistently well the past few years. And 2008 has been a banner year for them.<p>Was Behind Enemy Lines 2 any good?
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We took the precautions of getting behind a ridge of dirt, but the heat wave still rolled over.<p> Best thing (or worst) was when we started making bombs.<p> I mixed up a solution of chemicals (I really don't think I should say what, but it is sort of well known) and placed the compound in three five gallon buckets.<p> I then got the fuses from model rockets (They have two wires that merge into a ignition-type material). This way we could run the wires to them and not have to light a fuse (bad idea!).<p> So we ran the wires together in a series circuit hybrid and jumped with a battery.<p> Nothing happened at first and all of a sudden the ground felt like it dropped a few inches!<p> We got back home and one of my friends neighbors said he heard it thundering back east of his house.<p> We laughed and laughed.
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Kloipy sent a shout out to you and me on the Twitch TB. He said to pass along he good wishes to all. Danny, none of The Four are upset with you, or us. jarv and Pillow post al the time. Abom means he likes to stay on the topic of the TB, and not go all over the place. It was DocP who did not like your casting aspersions on Aliens.
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I jizzed when I saw The Host!<p> It wouldn't play on the dvd player (old RCA) but it played just fine on the computer.<p> That is just as well, as I have a nice set of headphones (the kind that cover your ears completely) and I can watch and not wake up teeny.<p> Thanks a bunch! Geez tonight cannot come soon enough.
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I guess turned off is more like it....I could sense the random topics wasn't their thing. I just mean Kloipy and Abom really....Pillow is always around. So Kloipy really did leave AICN like he said he would? Good for him for sticking to his guns.
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I've never checked it out...
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Saw Open City, Going By the Book and The Show Must Go On over the weekend but I watched Red Cliff and The Chaser the week before that so I've watched everything in your batch save for The Guard Post so I apologize if it's a turd.
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all Labor Day weekend.<p> I'm going to have to start a meth habit to see all of these this weekend.<p> Will watch The Host and Choclate tonight.
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I think he is busy at work. Pillow knows. Kloipy was pleased with the direction we have gone in under the banner of the CoC. Abom simply wants to post in relevant TB's, nothing wrong with that. Quite a few people do that.
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Hated it.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST
Chitty, I fear you'll have to watch everything...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
...on your PC then. Everything I sent you is from my original copy so you don't have the DIVX/MPEG thing to contend with but it sounds like your DVD can't handle burned discs, just like poor old Fred. So long as you don't mind watching them on your PC then I guess it's all good.
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Loved it!<p> See what happens when you have a creature feature with great characters?<p> There really is no telling how many times I will watch it this weekend.
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A sometimes comic, Korean monster flick with a dollop of horror.
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You mentioned Negadon a few days ago. Great short animated monster flick. I loved it.
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I actually like it on the PC, as I can cram my face up to the screen and use the headphones which have amazing sound.<p> Also my beer is right next to me on the desk and I have a big leather chair.<p> I haven't tried the PS2 yet, or the other dvd player though.<p> But if it is PC only then I will not complain one bit.
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I'm guessing it will play the discs but if the computer suits you fine, then you're golden. Enjoy!
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Journey to Center of the Earth. Gertrude just made her entrance. Little does she know what fate has in store for her!
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Your pyrotechnic escapades reminded me when I was a kid, we would mix lye and water in a pop bottle and add in a wadded tube of aluminum foil. We'd cover the bottle top with a balloon. The gas produced by the eroding tin foil was a type of hydrogen (we guessed). The balloon would fill, and we would tie it off when it was big enough. We'd light the bit of string at the end as the balloon ascended. When the flame reached the balloon, yes, it was like a mini-Hindenburg. It was fun till one time I burned my eyebrows off, because the balloon had a pinprick hole that caught the flame as I lit the string...but still, good times..good times.<p>But damn man! You're gonna blow up a neighborhood!!
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Aug. 27, 2008, 2:05 p.m. CST
That's Playstation 2 but I don't know if it will play it
by ChittyChittyGangBang
But as long it plays somewhere in the house I don't care.<p> Will check out Machine Girl tomorrow night and maybe another.
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Stay away from the BBQ sauce!<p> Bastards!
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Arlene Dahl was smokin even in milfhood
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Yeah we have settled down quite a bit now that I am married and all.<p> Got a family to think off, so really don't do that stuff anymore.<p> But we did the tin foil trick and put the balloons in a big garbage bag. The we would put a few small rocks in the bottom to give it weight and toss it on a camp fire.<p> We also put dry ice in a plastic bottle with water (boom!) and wrapped up a shitload of sparklers in a wad of electrical and duct tape (Very Big Boom!!).<p> Ahhh precious memories, how they linger.
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was the fight scene in the restaurant. What the fuck was up with that main bad guy? What. The Fuck?
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did anybody get Red Cliff? I have been dying to see that since I saw that huge seven minute promo thing on another site. Looks like a blast. And I have been a fan of the three kingdoms stories since the first time I played Dynasty Warriors. Is Guan Yu in it? What a badass.
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Heard it described as Little Miss Sunshine meets Godzilla. Not a bad description.
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Awesome monster flick, i really dug the monster design also....slimy and original. Loved that scene of the young girl running up its back while its sleeping trying to grab the chain only to be caught mid-air by its tail, frrreeeaaaaky.
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That was a truly great scene
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it was a bit nerve racking watching that scene of the dude begging and pleading for them to let him go only to have them calmly strap him into a hospital bed and drill into his dome....nicely done, and a bit confusing....can't remember WHY the fuck they did that.
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It's that kind of dillusion that has put a potential great action stars career in the toilet.
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Jonah, Series and ThereWolf got/are getting Red Cliff because they are the only ones who responded when I asked about DIVX capabilities. I'm sure everyone has a computer at home they can watch the movies on but I held off this time. As soon as I get either "I don't mind watching on my PC" or "My DVD player is so kick ass it can play files not yet invented" then I'll send Red Cliff and a bevy of other movies out to everyone, especially since I want to see what people thought of Red Cliff, Assembly and The Chaser. And I still need your thoughts on the stuff you just watched.
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is he seemed smarter after it...I was like "wha?"
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It really is. I think that movie is Korean cinema firing on all cylinders. It has the inappropriate slapstick, the familial themes, and it has a great monster and mistrusting the government. Perfect.
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when the girl was going up the back of that creature.<p> My favorite was the opening scenes of the creature.<p> Only Tony Jaa could have made it better.
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after a discussion of blowing stuff up=gold.
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if that director is doing anything new? Memories of Murder(the movie not the poster) and The Host are both masterpieces. What's next?
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I could not believe the budget they had for that thing. Something like $80 millions US dollars?<p> Geez, imagine if they spent like Hollywood on movies.<p> You better believe we would get that giant kung-fu robot movie then.
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Save the Green Planet. Another great korean film. Is it just me or do the koreans OWN asian cinema right now? I recall they got off to a rocky start with some lame comedies and tepid sci-fi like Natural City and Yesterday.
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If you want to have fun with propane get several large bottles, more then five gallons, and hit them with tracers rounds from a M249. Or if you can pull it off, get a large tank like they have at a gas station and test the force multiplier theory. Hit it with a .308 launched from a M40A3 from at least 600 hundred yards out. Man that explosion is fantastic. <p>Chitty, it seems we both liked to experiment with field expediant munitions as kids.
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Just ask me dude. I'm your source for Asian film news.<p>Joon-ho Bong is currently writing Host 2 and directing a movie called Mother which is another crime thriller about a serial killer.
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I quite enjoyed Negadon, but it might have been because of it's placement in our all day film fest. We watched four feature length films, starting with Kamikaze Girls and then Place Promised in Our Early Days(an anime), Cypher and finally Great Yokai War. <P> In between the features we showed short films- Kakurenbo, Voices of a Distant Star, Jasper Morello, Call of Cthulhu, Cat Soup and Negadon. <P> I think all the pieces together made each more entertaining than on it's own. But, we started at like 8:00 a.m. and finished at like 11:00 p.m. and I think some people were turned off after the first one. Save for the geeks of course, who were there for every movie.
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I usually watch movies on my PC because it's in better shape than my TV/DVD (my tv is about 20 years old and my DVD player is a cheap Big Lot's special), but I am appreciative of whatever movies you are setting up for me. Thank you.<p>I've got to check out these Riddick films, I guess. I haven't ever seen a Vin Diesel movie, as far as I know. Reading all this stuff about them got me interested. Pitch Black is the first one, right?
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a fine specimen indeed. All she needs is a little ginger, nutmeg, cloves, honey-- some fresh parsley on top. a little bit of plum sauce, topped off with a little mango chutney. Roast for about 30 minutes......mmmmmm what a fine bitch.
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Yeah I got those two DVIX movies. But man you sent me Shinobi? You really want me to like that movie.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST
Red Cliff is the longest erection you'll have...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
...without looking at T&A. It is just gorgeous. Every frame. And the performances are sublime.<p>Keep in mind, it's the first of two parts so we have to wait until next spring to see what is shaping up to be the grandest battle sequence every put to film. Might even surpass the Battle of Pelenor Fields.<p>Jonah will be the one guy here to have a dissenting "it was a'ight but not the second coming" opinion I project but everyone else will go cuckoo bananas for it.<p>I'll send it out to everyone as soon as they are done the current batches. With luck I'll have the actual DVD release by then so DIVX won't be an issue for some.<p>Jonah, so far the Koreans own 2008 theatrically, but Hong Kong really is nipping on their heels. I'd say the Koreans are the top dog but 2007 still leaves a foul taste in my mouth. We just need the Japanese and Thai to catch up and we can give Hollywood the finger.
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I actually still have all my stuff in storage until I move into my apartment in September, so I have been watching everything on my laptop. So I have no problem with that. Sorry I didn't chime in on the Red Cliff question. Like I said earlier, I have been gone a lot lately. I would love to see it at some point though.<p>I have to go soon so I really only have time to discuss one movie. I'll start with Mr. Socrates. First of all, that "teacher" was a great actor in my opinion. when he went all crazy for a second it was so shocking. The protagonist was really cool too. The first person I have ever seen who made a double chin seem badass. Also, i loved how often he beat up that long hair guy with the "viagra." Every fucking time was hilarious. And the guy that gets caught and has to pretend to get beat up so that he can get put back in jail. Do you know who that guy was or what else he is in? He was fucking hilarious. A great comic actor. Especially when he is looking for "blood."
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You have a little sister that had about 1,000 stuffed animals?<p> Well mine wanted to get rid of hers, so me and my cousins gathered the best ones.<p> We sliced around the neck very carefully and pulled out some stuffing. Then placed inside a cheap ziplock bag (they are thinner) with Karo syrup, red food coloring and canned dog food (got that from the Jaws Log if I remember correctly).<p> Then get the gun powder for a muzzle loader and grind the powder up real fine (burns faster).<p> Pack it in a pipe or really anything sturdy and BAM! bloody stuffed animal corpse.<p> We also did the head with the blood and dog food mix and shot it with a 12 gauge against a white sheet on the side of the shed.<p> That way you could see the splatter better.<p> Are you surprised I enjoyed horror flicks?
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was just brilliant. Totally brilliant. I would love to discuss that more later when I have lots of time.
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You will always be a poor man's Cock Tease.
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I didn't realize you had seen Shinobi and it wasn't your thing. Oh well, maybe your girlfriend or future kidlets will like it. But you got Red Cliff so all should be forgiven.<p>Mavra, now that I know DIVX discs won't be an issue for you, you'll get the motherload in the next shipment.
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"Red Cliff is the longest erection you'll have without looking at T&A." <p> So sayeth THE DONOR!! <P> August 27th, 2008
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You rock!
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Grab a 12 gauge shotgun shell and empty out where the lead pellets are.<p> Then fill that chamber with more gunpowder.<p> Now tape nails or whatever sharp objects around the plastic tube.<p> Then tape a heavy ball bearing to the flat end with the firing cap and attach a kite string like ribbon to the other end for balance.<p> Throw in the air and it will land on the ball bearing, which pops the firing cap and ignites the powder.<p> See? A half-ass Daisy Cutter that works.
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after the first all-day event. I havent done one since, though I'm seriously considering one this fall.
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He posts on AICN when he has down time on the Straight Talk Express, between stops at Nascar events and Country Music Festivals.
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I've tried to get friends into Mr. Socrates and never got a nibble. And here I find a group of people I've never met who loved it. Go figure. A Bittersweet Life would have been big here among Tarantino fans. I don't understand why Dragon Dynasty hasn't released it. Even Shadowless Sword just got a release yesterday.
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HOD I've got no room to complain. I will definitely give it another shot.
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why do you think I will think that? Only movies I felt that way bout with last shipment were Bloody Tie and Machine Girl. Red Cliff has been one of my most anticipated movies all year. It will either rock, or I'll probably hate it.
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Here's your FedEx tracking number although it won't be "active" for a couple hours as it hasn't left the building yet but it's scheduled to arrive tomorrow.<p>974562071858
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Fred bought a new DVD player. NOt hooked up yes. BUt looking forward to all the new batch of movies from you. Thank you.<p> Hello Mavra Chang!
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How are you feeling today? How's Dirk?
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I just have a suspicion that you'll see it as a more elaborate Warlords or Mongol. Some people get tired of seeing massive armies slice and dice each other. Me? I could watch it all day. I can't see you hating it. It's too beautifully shot and acted to hate.
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Dirk dealing with DT's. Apparently fortified wine and Amoeba's do not mix!
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Now you can watch your movies over the long weekend. I assume it can play any file?
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to the first person who brings me the fingers and keyboard of egg salad
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Mongol, I'll love it. I really dug both of those movies. But then, neither of those was directed by Woo, and I think it will make all the difference.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST
Damn Fred! I had sheriff posse looking for you again
by ChittyChittyGangBang
Were you on Ninja Fred mission that you cannot speak of?<p> I understand.
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is attacking Egg, you know his schtick is done.
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i mean 10 grand, BIG fuckin oops
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Aug. 27, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST
"It's been a very long time since I've smelled beautiful."
by rbatty024
I only saw the first one intermittently on cable, and even then it was for no more than ten minutes at a time. Vin Diesel's career ain't exactly on fire right now so I think rebooting old franchises is the only way to go. Unless he decided to hone his acting craftsmanship in order to receive more varied roles. Actually, I'm just joking about that last one.
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were the ear biting scenes.<p>I want to discuss the movies more but I really don't want to spoil them for anybody who hasn't seen them. Who has seen what?
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I knew it...you diseased cunt.
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Fred will be off Friday! Can't wait to watch movies
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Was that the one from Wal Mart?
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I have seen all of them. I quite enjoyed Mr. Socrates. Good film. And the ear biting was probably the best scene.
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Fred was possesed by an alien Pos that spoke Scottish! It infected Dirk first. Mavra Chang and ThereWolf exorcised it out of Fred with Thunderbird - they did not have any EverClear. Fred feeling fine today, but Dirk suffering withdrawal symptoms. It
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Aug. 27, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST
I said I'd only agree to the embargo if I got the payola...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Egg will be banned within a few minutes anyway. He always slithers off to his local church to visit Father O'Reilly.
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what did you think of running wild? I was surprised how much I liked that one.
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Yes Mavra Chang - it was from Walmart
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because I thought you meant Alien P.O.S. and then I could imagine Nick Nolte growling "infected by some alien P.O.S that spoooke...SCOTTISH!" And with that he downs the everclear after popping ecstacy.
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Geeez, that is like koolaid with rubbing alchohol mixed in.<p> Also doesn't it cost like two bucks per gallon?<p>
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That made Fred laugh! <p> What the word? Thunderbird! What's the price? Twice as nice!
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Like it wasn't a good alien, but sort of a crappy one.<p> Sort of like comparing a xenomorph with the alien from My Favortite Martian.<p> Ha, I got myself chuckling.
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That means I might be able to fit one into my budget soon. I'm doing slow tech device updgrades. The tv will probably be my finale, as it still works well, despite it's age.<p>I'll be back later. I've promised to try to fix my neighbor's computer problems today. Ciao!
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Aug. 27, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST
Fred did not mean it that way - but it does seem funnier
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Fred not mean to swear though. Might have to wash mouth out with soap.
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Fred loved Pitch Black. It is in Fred's top ten all time sci-fi. CoR is not so good. Fred would like a return to a simpler storyline. Fred think the idea of a Prequel to Pitch Black is excellent. But they would not do it, because that would be admitting they were wrong about CoR.
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Fag.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST
dont forget to spit on your hand first salad
by fartedinthefaceofhollywood
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"1. CHILDREN OF MEN. 2. WALL-E. 3. SUNSHINE. 4. WAR OF THE WORLDS. 5. SERENITY 6. STAR WARS PART 3" <p> (3) sunshine, fails so bad in the 3rd act it erases a possible great sci-fi film into pure shit. failing to make the list (4) war of the worlds? come on. its ok, but its not better than CoR. (5) SW3??? Noooooooooooooo. Don't even get me started on the silly dialogue in this thing. Wish I had been on something during my viewing of SW3, it might have been an ok comedy then.
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How dare you speak ill of a Star Wars film....how DARE YOU SIR!!
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Surely you can mean classic cinematic vernacular as a robot coughing?<p> Oh crap I have made a remark against a Star Wars movie!<p> Rage, Lucas lovers, Rage!
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i agree Sunshine got a bit "WTF!!!" towards the end...mainly when Mr. Crispy showed up, but other than that...i really enjoyed it.
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was a little long, but a really good movie nonetheless. Not as good as A Bittersweet Life in my opinion, but it had a really great evening. A pleasant surprise since, like Daisy, I had no clue what it was about prior to seeing it.
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Twohy originally planned on Dick Riddick getting killed in PB but test screenings favored the character so much that he flipped the death scene in the end (no spoilers here if u haven't seen it!).<p>I agree with the above....the Dune-like politics didn't fit his character...proverbial shoving of a circle through a square hole. Get him back to the raw and edgy with any antagonist being INhuman...not simply gothic-y humans and Colm Fiore (yes, horribly miscast) with that silly vampire-blur speed thing. Plus, the fight at the end of CoR was pure shite...I don't believe Diesel has any specific training or did any training (I read about some mutt version of martial arts but it looks like brawler shit to me) but that one simply and quick fight in PB was about a million times kewler. Even the line "Did NOT know who it was fukin with" works. Roots will bring Riddick home...not political intrigue and a hundred new side characters (and even tho Alexia is a superhottie, I still didn't see her as a badass....much...anyway.
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I've got just one word for you...<p><p><p><p>"NOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!"<p>End of discussion, no?
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Just saying, it had giant robots.<p> And the scenes where the tripods attack the ferry and when they rise up out of the ground trump anything visually I saw in CoR.
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All the Chronicles of Riddick love is a little confusing. The main bad guy was obnoxious, tame, unintimidating (especially compared to the protagonist), and totally worthless. The dramatically increased scale only seemed to distance me from the film. It didn't have the personal stories of Pitch Black. Also, the visuals were lazy, mediocre, and similar to so many other things thanks to all the CG. Whatever happened to CGI being used to effect in the first movie? I've mentioned this before, but remember when the guy with all the lights gets separated, and he expels the liquor on the fire, illuminating all the creatures? What a great shot. Another cool one was when Riddick got in the face of that one monster so he couldn't see him, and he was mirroring his movements. What a cool, clever scene. I can't think of anything in the sequel that even compared to those parts, but I welcome somebody to think of something as cool. Anything to enhance the feel of that totally mediocre effort.
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amazing visuals in WOTW. But overall COR is a better watch for me. Its all about the fun factor for me......WOTW depresses me. Its not really fun.
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was it just really stupid. It could have promise? Right? Guys?<p>(Goes back to corner, curling into a ball, murmuring crappy movie ideas to himself once again, and nodding occasionally)
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War of the Worlds was great....when the shit was hitting the fan as in...humans getting dusted left and right. is it just me....or should Tom Cruises character have beat the shit out of his son then dragged his lifeless body off the hill???...that scene made ME want to beat the fuck out of him
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That one dude walking out into the sunlight on Creamatoria and melting away after he reveals he is a Furian.
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convinced me to see the movie!<p> I saw the creatures and had to check it out.<p> Very good scene, sort of the so-called money shot of that movie.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST
Riddick putting out the candles in that room...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...and proceeding to beat the fuck out of all those guards while machine gun fire strobes the room. <p> That crazy bomb device that slam into the floor that incinerates everyone standing around it....
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I like the fact that it was depressing as the fall of man should be just that.<p> But guess what?<p> The ending contradicts the mood he was building the while time, wrapped in a neat little package on the porch.<p> Sort of gave me mixed feelings.<p>
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....but it was a bit funny in a way, he walks out there and starts disentigrating...hes damn near skin and bones and he falls down....im thinking hes gonna stay down cause he got FUCKED UP, next theing ya know he gets up and takes a couple more steps....now THAT is a bad mother fucker
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how far into the movie is that part?
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When Thandy opens the trap door on the ship and city is spilling past below.<p> I liked that visual. Simple and effective.<p>
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like how he dislocated his shoulders to get away in Pitch Black....to wrapping himself in that chain he was hanging from only to unwrap and snap it....very cool to watch
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only Keith David is tough enough to play the guy that keeps walking!!
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I enjoyed "Pitch Black," but thought "Chronicles of Riddick" was a huge misstep. It was trying too hard to be gamer-friendly and forgot about drama and plausible explanations. I mean, in the first movie, Riddick is just Riddick. He had biologically upgraded eyes to see in the dark, yes, but he's just a dude. Which was fun. "Chronicles of Riddick," however, got too giddy with fantastical "what ifs" and forgot about character-specific issues that make them interesting. Also, is there any explanation AT ALL for why Riddick can do the things he does? Because if there isn't, then the whole story is silly fantasy of the worst kind. What does being a Furyan mean? Is Riddick bioengineered to be a supersoldier, but was cast out with the rest of his race at some point? Because that's a far more interesting and compelling, not to mention badass, basis for a story. All this Underverse shit is just silly gamer fantasy.<p> Unless Twohy brings something more compelling to the next film, which I hope will be a low-budget ($70-85 million) production. That way, Twohy will have to work for every effect and dramatic moment to work, instead of assuming that every huge budget effect "Chronicles" presented WILL work. Lean and mean is always better than bloated and overhyped.<p> I wish Vin well.
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but this is all just a matter of taste. Personally I find the bio engineered super soldier concent to be boring as fuck. I much rather prefer a mythological spiritual explanation for his abilities. <p> Like "The Force." Spiritual mythology = good......scientific midiclorians explanation = shit. <p> And after thinking about it...I think the underverse is the most interesting thing this franchise has to move forward with. If I wanted to see bio engineered soldiers I would watch Universal Soldier or Soldier-- starring Kurt "Fuck me 'till it hurts" Russell.
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Riddick getting back to battling creatures or a more simple villian than CoR.<p> Maybe smaller budget with more intimate feel for a few characters to wrap up the trilogy.<p> Came in small, went big budget, and now leaves with small budget.<p> I don't have a problem with that.
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*BEYOND SPOILERIFIC*<p> .<p> .<p> Dragonheart<p> Star Wars: A New Hope (technically Ben didn't die, but...)<p> Constantine (he tried to, anyway)<p> Armageddon<p> Star Trek: Nemesis<p> Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan<p> The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe<p> Space Cowboys<p> Arlington Road<p> Saving Private Ryan<p> Children of Men<p> Troy<p> The Notebook<p> The Guardian<p> Cold Mountain<p> Braveheart<p> The Cowboys (or any number of John Wayne movies><p> The Poseidon Adventure<p> Backdraft<p> ALL the Terminator movies<p> just to list a few off the top of my head. yeah - this HAS been overdone.
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I think the next Riddick needs to be partly based in the big universe we now know and partly small. Riddick can go off on some journey with a small group. But we must see elements of the larger world. To just completely go small again would be even more jarring......in 10 years time it would make the 3 films feel really stupid to go small, big, small.
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I wanna see a prequel first, something explaining how that Cop (Cole Hauser) caught him because as bad a mother fucker as Riddick is....that cop had to pull some SHIT to catch him....perhaps hiring some mercenaries to help him catch Riddick, then the cop murders the mercenaries after hes caught, i mean he IS corrupt after all, then Pitch Black then CoR THEN end it on a personal but VERY important note....CoR handled all the BIG shit and they could still end it cheaply but effectively, something personal and seemingly small, but HUGE in meaning.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST
They may not have choice on budget after CoR though
by ChittyChittyGangBang
But yes, they can make it feel bigger with a smaller budget, but maybe it is my love for Pitch Black talking about feel and budget.<p> But I do not mean Pitch Black small, but really not a whole lot bigger and certainly smaller than CoR.
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..as I was saying earlier it would be cool to introduce characters and details we do yet know about Riddick....something that will be very important for the 4th film.
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I know you love this series like no other, DannysDickblood, but in order to give a fuck about characters in a film, I need something to base my feelings about them on. The first film presented a wily, enigmatic badass who could see in the dark and dislocate his shoulders on cue. The story is lean and focused, and the effects, when used, are startling and scary. It leaves a person wanting to know, "What's going to happen next?"<p> As opposed to "Chronicles," which I was bored by after ten minutes due to the story's plodding enormity. The tame, unscary bad guy, half-baked ship and costume designs, lack of explanation for anything, and overblown plot left me furrowing my brow. You maybe don't need explanations for why characters are the way they are, Danny, which is fine, but I do. Think of John Connor in the original Terminator without a backstory. How compelling would that have been? Riddick feels like that to me.<p> I know you see things differently, Danny Dickblood, but in a created fantasy universe (since Riddick is now pretty damn far from science fiction), the best storytellers provide character-specific reasons for things to happen instead of just winging it. Riddick now feels like he's winging it, which I'm not a fan of. I want more.<p> I hope Twohy provides it.
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and I'm like the king of off-topic. if you don't believe me check this out<p> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34974<p> I am unable to be on in the day anymore. But I still post from time to time. The only person I really ever had a problem with on here was Glovedone
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I want everyone to love the third film.
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They are selling Riddick in a 3 pack DVD collection at Best Buy which includes, Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddick and Dark Fury. I think they may also be selling it at Wal-Mart. Anyway, I have seen all three and Chronicles of Riddick is not very good, save for the opening scene, the prison escape and the climax. Dark Fury, a animated cartoon which features the character, is more the direction the sequel should have gone in and I have heard some say that about the video game Butcher Bay. Pitch Black is a great film though, that is the one you want to see. I know a girl who loves it and I just sent her a DVD...that's how I found out that the film has been a favorite of her's!!!!
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It was called Into Pitch Black.<p> Looks like it was filmed documentary style.<p> Anyone seen it?
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Target sells good DVD/VCR hybrids that are cheap (affordable). The Samsung unit is really nice. I think Toshiba may also have one.
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More Riddick, that movie rocked!!!
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I don't blame Twohy for getting ambitious. I'd rather see a director stretching beyond himself than settling into a safe niche.<p>That said, I thought COR was too ambitious too soon. Pitch Black 2 needed to be a small step forward, needed to cement Riddick as a proper hard case and maybe, on the fringe of the story, just give a hint of the Necromongers and of things to come. Then with 3 - blast the Universe open. It's too big a jump from a tight little claustrophobic movie to a full blown space opera.<p>I didn't mind COR, I liked the 'Dune' thing they had going on and I thought Linus Roache's character was the most interesting - they should've done more with him. Though the hell hounds weren't convincing, it was a smart effect when one of them sticks its head through that waterfall.<p>Having set up all this stuff in COR I can't see Twohy backtracking to a prequel, but who knows. Wouldn't like the series to go DTV.
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<br>The last film I can recall with that many tilted shots was Battlefield: Earth. And we all know how well that film turned out.</br> <br>Personally, I liked "Pitch Black" a lot, but "Chronicles of Riddick" was an illogical mess. Particularly the part where they're on the planet Crematoria. Even if Riddick hid in the shadows, the planet would still be so hot that he'd get fried no matter what. And if anyone could give me a semi-coherent description of the plot, I'd love to hear it.</br>
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Much obliged! Seems to be not as much admiration for the second Riddick film, but it wouldn't be right to skip over it just for that reason. In for a penny...<p>My vcr is pretty good. I bought it myself. The dvd player was a gift, though, from someone who bought several for different people because they were a good bargain. Mine is the only one of the group still running, so I'm betting it's time is limited. Never hurts to do some advance comparison shopping.<p>Tell ChocolateReign it's ok if he passes along my email address to you, if you want to chat sometime.
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I think that Pitch Black was super cool and CoR was mired in idiocyncratic and self-fulfillment daydreaming. But something about CoR keeps me from hating it and wanting to see more. I don't know... It has my odd support behind it.
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I saw Into Pitch Black when it was first broadcast on SciFi way back when Pitch Black opened. I'm also the proud owner of the Japanese special edition DVD of Pitch Black which contains the "prequel". <p> It's not very good. Very cheap looking and Diesel's hardly in it.
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are always way better than any other version.<p>Speaking of which, where the hell is my Director's Cut of Kill Bill with the full color House of Blue Leaves sequence and the totally unedited scenes?
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Skip right over Egg Salad tosser and Cock Tease postings because those are Glovedone/Braffed. You would think that a person who claimed to have graduated, alegedly, from Duke University and has a "thriving" mental health counselling business would have been more orginal in his thinking, but no.
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Yeah, i figured that was him. I saw him say 'pumpkin and baby boy'<p> dude the 'Duke University' thing is HILARIOUS! and if he is in the 'mental health counselling business' than I feel so sorry for the poor saps going to him, people probably killing themselves left and right
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CoR was problematic but not complete shit. (unlike Babylon AD by the looks of things)<p> <p>Pitch Black felt like a geat science fiction short story done with style but not overblown and happy with what it was.<p> <p>It may not have been up there with The Thing or Predator but it was good stuff and a nice surprise.<p> <p>Personally I'd prefer 4 or 5 small(ish) (relatively of course) smart movies like Pitch Black to a bloated needless enfranchisement.<p> <p>P.S. going to watch Red Cliff soon.
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Egg Salad and Cock Tease's identities are known?!
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Yes sir, salad tosser and cock sucking tease are the same numb nut, one glovedone/braff. The wierd talking to himself under two names, the use of the term pickle, babt boy, pumpkin and the general loserness of the post, plus the insatiable need for attention all point to little braffy boy as salad tosser/cocksucker.
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Things are well. How goes it for you?
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Aug. 27, 2008, 11 p.m. CST
...and now an excerpt from Stephen Baldwin's book....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
..."The Unusual Suspect." <p> "I can honestly say that part of God's plan for my life was for me to ignore the advice of my managers and make a movie that was universally panned by the critics. Yes, God wanted me to star in a film about two brainless slackers who spend their days watching television, making out with their girlfriends, and drinking large quantities of various substances… The film was brainless and pointless and hilarious and God wanted me to make it. I didn't think like that at the time. Making Bio-Dome played right into my usual, let's have a good time attitude. God had other plans, I just didn't know it at the time." <p> When I say God wanted me to make this movie, I do not mean to imply that He approved of everything in the film. The film contains stuff that does not reflect the life I now live. I haven't even allowed my children to see it. <p> I know some people think the movie kept my career from really taking off the way it could have after The Usual Suspects. People who think that don't realize that without Bio-Dome I could not have the career I have today, and I'm not talking about movies. <p> The critics may have hated Bio-Dome, but kids loved it. They loved it when we first made it and they still love it today. Everywhere I go I have some kid in his late teens or early twenties come up to me and tell me that this is their favorite movie. Most have never seen The Usual Suspects, or 8 Seconds or Fled, or One Tough Cop or any of my other sixty movies, with the possible exception of The Flintstones In Viva Rock Vegas. But they've seen Bio-Dome over and over again. That's why God wanted me to make the film. <P>I didn't know it ten years ago when I agreed to become Doyle Johnson, but God had already called me both to know Him personally and to impact the youth culture in America with the Good News of Jesus Christ. I didn't know it because I didn't know Jesus at the time. One of the reasons kids will listen to me today is because they recognize me from the movies. But not just any movie. One movie: Bio-Dome."
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Bio-Dome is my 16 year old sister's favorite movie.
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Aug. 27, 2008, 11:47 p.m. CST
Of course by this point you all know what I am talking about.
by Series7
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That's the defining moment for Riddick for me. It was not about shadowy monsters, Pitch Black was about one man's redemption, and the love he almost knew.
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Just what the hell are you talking about?
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HOD WAS WRONG! <P> You can no longer believe the lies this man is feeding us. STARSHIP TROOPERS 3 is one of the best god damn movies in years. It was seriously awesome to most awesomeness of awesomes. If you have not seen it consider yourself banned until you do. I don't know why or how this movie didn't get bigger then it was, but it was fucking amazing. Its just so fucking bat shit crazy. Everything is ridiculous for ridiculous sake, like they were trying to appease some unnamed god with its over the topness. <P> Any movie with the line "Dix saved my ass every day." has to be classic.
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I thought Salad was Braffed, too, but on closer inspection I think he's in fact the reincarnation of the legendary Gabriel Grey. <p> Or he could be some new guy. Braffed had a similar style but Salad cuts much much deeper.
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got it Series. I will definitely check it out now.
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That needs to be seen with beer. Doctors orders.
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ST3 looks fucking awesome. I'm gonna watch it as soon as my weak heart can handle it.
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I've been wanting to watch ST3, is it really one of the greatest cinematic achievements of the last 4 years? Does the abundance of Dix make this movie worth the price of an entire small country?
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Its quite possible the greatest DTV movie ever made. Like half the shit that happens, you are just like, I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY ARE REALLY DOING THIS SHIT! Its awesome. I don't want to blow it WAY up and let you down. But its tons of fun, and you can tell that they just ran with any idea that anyone came up with. Just wait till you see the music video featured on the DVD.
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I'm sticking with the Braffed theory.
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ST3 is out I guess?
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Aug. 28, 2008, 12:42 a.m. CST
came out a few weeks ago in the states Xiphos...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
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Don't tell me it's better than Shark Attack 3: Megalodon.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 12:43 a.m. CST
alright good nite peeps......gotta let my dick rest...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Xiphos...stay safe over there. <p> Series...always double bag it, you don' know where that bitch been! <p> PEACE!!
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Its a good day to die, when you know the reasons why.
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Passing out to Redbelt. Later fulls.
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There is one small let down with ST3, in that Dix doesn't get his ass blasted in the end. Seeing that Casper has been waiting to do any movie since the first one (has he done anything since the first one?) he should've just killed Dix.
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Can I? C'mon where the Aussies at? or the Early rising English for that matter hell any Europeans. I'll even except a Frenchie at this point. Jesus people help me out here.
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The lovely Mavra Chang has coerced me to start posting again on these long threads. <p> I've tried to stay away from AICN because of the banning fiasco. It was particularly ironic that on the day many of us were banned, Harry and Mori gave out long diatribes about free speech and embargos and not kowtowing to corporate bullying - hypocritical shitbags. <p> I've been out partying a lot and need to catch up on what's going on. So what's going on?
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Whole lot of nothing going around here. Same old, same old.<p>I don't know if you caught my post to you on that infamous SG TB I welcomed you to the banned wagon. It's a place I know very well.<p>Between parties did you get a chance to work on Mall Ninjas vs The Zombie Hoard?
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I neglected to mention that Mavra Chang is good people. It needed to be noted again, now that she worked her wiles on you and got you to make an appearence.
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Sorry Xiphos, haven't even started the script for Mall Ninjas, but I will do...and then I'll send it to you and make you read it! <p> Still love the way none of the Mods have had the balls to say which one banned me and why. Bunch of cowardly douche nozzles (as the young people say). <p> Anyways, I liked Chronicles of Riddick, but mainly for the production design, it was a great looking movie and no mistaking. <p> My guilty pleasure this week was watching Tales From The Crypt: Demon Night on cable again. If you've never seen it, then bear these facts in mind - <p> The protagonist looks like Gordon Ramsey from Kitchen Nightmares. <p> Mrs. Will Smith is in it as a sassy, tough, ghetto chick (quelle surprise). <p> Billy Zane actually puts in a great performance as Satan, despite having drawn on eyebrows. <p> But my favourite bit of the movie is when Gordon Ramsey says to Mrs. Will Smith 'When did you get out of prison?' - He says this to her because she's still wearing her prison denims. Fuck me, she's been working in a hotel for several weeks and is still wearing her jail clothes. I know minimum wage is shit, but there is a thing called Wal-mart. <p>
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seeing how I'm the only one about at the moment.<p> I need Jarv to get back from his Holiday. That gave me somebody to talk to while all you lazy folks are in your beds over there.
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Of the seven or eight times I've been banned I never knew you did it and after like the third time I quit trying to find out.<p>I thought that CoR, was uneven but sort of fun. I liked the over the top set designs and of course riddick was cool and it had some good action pieces but it was uneven.<p>However it must be stated for the record, Alexis Davalos is one tasty looking bisquit that I wouldn't mind buttering up.<p> I don't think I've seen Demon Night, or if I did, I'll have to check it out again because it ain't ringin any bells.<p> Gordon Ramsey you say? I always want to crack that smug bastard one, right in the chops, every time I see a comercial for Hell's Kitchen.
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I told you you'd be welcomed! Now if I could get ChocolateReign to drop in as well, things would be a little closer to being right in this site. I would also add Monster2BPitied to that catagory, but I don't know his address. If you know it, would you please pass along my best wishes?<p>Xiphos, how's it going? I'm glad you were here for Pondscum's visit. You guys take care and I'll catch up with you sometime soon. Cya!
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Who's seen it? <p>Started off slow for maybe the first third or so, but damn, it got pretty damn funny.<p>Anytime you end up with a midget tied up on acid = high quality entertainment.<p>Series...speaking of quality, that was a great recommendation for ST3. I'm sold. Added to my queue. I will now wait for enlightenment to arrive. Perhaps I will fast in the meantime.
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JPT, I liked Death at a Funeral, and anytime Peter Dinklage shows up, it's a good thing. Viva la Station Agent!
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Do we have a new addition to the group? Hello Pondscum is Banned. Fred very happy today. Boss on vacation! Hee hee
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Sorry, I should have given a big shout out to people....so Hello! <p> I'll also take this opportunity to thank Mavra, Chocolate Reign and Media Messiah for keeping in touch and to Xiphos, johnnyjlawless, FMB and D.Vader for continually contesting the bannings. (and for coninually giving JackNanceRevenge a hard time). Cripes! Even WhinyNegativeBitch was being supportive at one point - how weird is that? <p> As for AracadianDS, Nice Gaius and Lord John Whorfin - words cannot describe the loathing, contempt and disgust I feel for you. <P> Other then that, the TV show Andromeda was on telly this morning and I've noticed that just about everyone on it looks like an ex-porn star.
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Last post for me this morning. I'm falling asleep! I haven't seen Death At A Funeral, but I did see The Station Agent. That was a great movie. I enjoyed watching the neighborhood people insinuating themselves so easily into FinBar's life while he tries to remain aloof and dignified, despite their various quirks.<p>Several people here recommended the book "The Walking Dead" to me. My copy arrived yesterday and I just finished the first chapter. I'm already certain that I'll be ordering the rest of the series (and have a fellow zombie-fan coworker waiting to borrow this one when I'm done). Thanks for telling me about it. Later!
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Goodbye Mavra Chang sleep tight, don't let space bugs bite - or make sure you have Marvin the Martian gun that can deliver extreme predjudice!
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shall we continue our exploration of movie years? To everyone new, over the past few days we have been recapping years in movies, starting with 1998(for no real reason) and we have done about two a day amidst all the other random chatter. <P> So, we are up to 2002. The good? the bad? the great? <P> I recall really enjoying that year of film , but I was in college having a great time, and later that year I met the woman who would be my wife, so it might have colored my vision a bit. Above all else, I remember 2002 being a HUGE year for re-releases. <P> I saw E.T., Amadeus, Cinema Paradiso, Metropolis and Lawrence of Arabia all in re-releases that year. <P> As for the year itself, does it hold up? I don't know. Lets check it out.
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take care!
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Lilo and Stitch!
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Blade 2<p> Two Towers <p> Bourne Identity
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Fred, good choice. I remember going to see that, and it being sold out so a whole team of us went to Minority Report instead. Somehow, I missed Lilo and Stitch after that, but a friend gave it to me as a christmas present, and I remember we all sat and watched it the first time I introduced my wife(girlfriend at the time) to my family. Typically I have already seen stuff by the time I watch it with my parents or whomever, but I hadn't watched it either and I didnt expect it to be as touching as it was. By the time he is wandering around, crying out "Family!" I was done.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 7:35 a.m. CST
I don't know what's worse, being Rick Rolled...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
...or being slandered by one of my own.<p>I don't remember trashing ST3. In fact, I proudly remember saying last week that I was probably the only one of us regulars who had taken the time to watch it.<p>It is by no means a great movie but it was so outrageous I had a good time. And even though the production budget is way down from the first movie, a lot of the wit from Verhoeven's is present here.<p>I'm not a fan of DTV movies, but ironically I have watched 3 in the past two weeks which is 2 more than I've watched my entire life. Between ST3, Pathfinder and Pistol Whipped, ST3 is the clear winner. Pathfinder wasn't bad and although Vern and DGDB told me otherwise, I watched most of Pistol Whipped at x2 speed.<p>I need to go find my post because this is bugging me now. I'm certain I said ST3 was mostly entertaining and certainly worth a rental.<p>Stephen Baldwin is a douche. He and Kirk Cameron need to combine forces and formed the Washed Out Ministries. The Church of Chang will steamroll them.<p>Death at a Funeral was hilarious and not only was Peter Dinklage awesome, but so was Alan Tudyk.<p>Pondscum and Xiphos? Wow, this TB is really heating up. Sweet!
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when I saw that saying you disliked ST3, I thought you were one of the few who saw it and recommended it. I think you recommended it with alocohol, but nonetheless, you liked it.
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Jonah: A Veggie Tales Movie
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Did I read you right, contempt for the good MNG?<p>And I'm pretty sure Hawaiian did not slander ST3 either.
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wow...it's stuff like that I find rather embarrasing. So, Stevie does this mean your new ministry is making Sci-fi channel originals? Or Scare Tactics? How did that fit in?
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should I not have admitted that?
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But thought that would be too much geekiness for an Amoeba to handle. He would get teased
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Heh heh heh - fair warning countdown in 5...4...3...2
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hah! <p> Hi Fred long time no see!
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I have to admit i chuckled at Scoody Doo. HOD you did indeed defend ST3 I think whoever said you did not got confused or was drunk.
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Fred enjoyed Scooby as well - it a guilty pleasure. Fred loved Scooby's laugh! Fred forgot about Transporter, that was a darn good movie.
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thrillers, both good and bad: <P> Ghost Ship: ridiculous, but not so terrible really. That kill in the opening was worth it. <P> Below: Ok, I thought I'd like this more, but it was atmospheric and the idea of a ghost who likes playing Glen Miller to scare people amuses me. Loved the setting of the sub for a ghost story. In fact, now more than before I want to see Therewolf's vamp sub movie. Overall I enjoyed this, and it was Twohy's movie he did right before Riddick. <P> Dragonfly: remember this Costner mopey weepy ghost flick? It was pretty silly, but it actually had a great ending. That, I didnt expect, since I had given up on the movie long before the ending arrived. <P> Mothman Prophecies: the better version of "the older ladies man actor loses wife and sees strange crap" story. Richard Gere here, instead of Costner, and the director was Mark Pellington. It's a cool creepy flick that still holds up. Will Patton is good too. Where did he go these days? <P> The Ring: saw this on halloween, and had a great time. It's fun. It aint the original, but it had naomi watts and brian cox, and a horse getting run over by a ferryboat. <P> Wendigo- just felt creepy in it's chilly setting and understated story. Loved seeing Dewey from Malcolm in the Middle as a haunted little kid. <P> Frailty- awesome. Loved this one. What a great idea, and what an excellent direction of said idea.
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Hero - martial arts mayhem with some mental orientals! Hiya! I loves me some chop sockey action. <p> Equilibrium - Matrix Batman Ninja Priest goes over to George Orwell's house and does a big poo on Brave New World. <p> Road to Perdition - Tom Hanks grows a mustache and shoots people in the face in this heart warming depression era comedy. <p> Bubba Ho-Tep - Elvis vs. The Mummy, nuff said. <p> Spider Man - web slinging emo fags have a bit of cry and touch each others' hairless bonkers. <p> 28 Days Later - enjoyed the first half and then it went shit. <p> The Ring - Gore Verbinski did a pretty good job of translating this Nipponese horror classic. However, the notion of people watching a film on VHS was pretty laughable. <p> Phone Booth - great low budget 10 minute indy film idea blown out to a feature length film. Good stuff nonetheless. <p> I'll post more when I can think of them.
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is an often overlooked disney effort that I really took a liking to when I saw it. With that and Lilo and in the same year, I thought Disney was poised for a traditional animation comeback. I was wrong. <P> Loved the design and voicework and writing for Long John Silver.
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It really does hold up well. I had no idea what to expect when i saw it, but was thouroughly entertained.
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After the banning fiasco, he couldn't wait to crawl up the Mods' assholes and praise them for the bannings. No one likes an ass kissing, brown noser unless they're in a film called Butt Licking Lesbians.
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the notion of watching stuff on vhs was plausible. I didnt even get a dvd player until winter of that year, and video rental outlets were still renting both formats, with the bulk of stuff being vhs. <P> Also, didnt see Hero until late 2003, and it wasnt released here until 2004, but technically it's a 2002 movie. Bubba Hotep wasnt released here til 2003, same for 28 Days Later. <P> I sort of enjoyed Phone Booth, felt Road to Perdition was uneven with great performances, and liked everything else you listed there. <P> Recall going to see Equilibrium with only a Moriarty review to let me know what it was, and walking in completely blind without as much as a preview. It was odd not even knowing what the film would look like.
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Two Towers was not only my favorite LOTR movie but probably my favorite movie of the year. Lots of good indie's came out that year but a lot of the high octane and shiny Hollywood stuff won me over and took many top spots.<p>Minority Report, Blade 2, Catch Me If You Can, Road To Perdition, We Were Soldiers, The Mothman Prophecies, K19, The Count of Monte Cristo, Gangs of New York, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Treasure Planet, Undercover Brother, Chicago, Reign of Fire, Phone Booth and Spider Man all entertained the bejeezus out of me. And then the indie stuff like Auto Focus, Super Troopers, Adaptation, Bubba Ho-Tep, About Schmidt and 24 Hour Party People was spot on.
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But Jonah is right it was 2003 over here. I did not see Equilibrium until last year! Bubba Ho Tep - same thing. Enjoyed the hell out of them both.
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Secretary - spanking perv fest you could watch with your girlfriend. <p> Confessions of a Dangerous Mind - the Gong Show dude meets up with Clooney and kills loads of commies. <p> We Were Soldiers - kind of like Hamburger Hill but good and starring everyone's favourite alcoholic racist. <p> SW: Attack of the Clones - just kidding, what a pile of CGI shit. <p> 8 Mile - wanted to hate this movie cuz of Slim Wigger. But it was suprisingly not bad. <p> Showtime - TJ Hooker rules!
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but did. <P> Walk to Remember-yes, go ahead and slam me. It wasn't genius but I liked it. I somehow expected Mandy Moore to go in a diff direction than she did, but she showed potential here. <P> Four Feathers- the original is an excellent film, and this doesn't measure up, but I honestly liked this one a decent bit. This was where I really started to notice Ledger, and Honsou was great as always in it. <P> Eight Legged Freaks- I can't help it. Im a sucker for creature features. <P> Stuart Little 2: It was cute! It was! <P> Tuck Everlasting-It was a bit cheesy, but having actually met Hurt while he was here filming it, and this being the first movie I saw with my wife, it gets something of a free pass. And it had Ben Kingsley as a villain! In a yellow suit! with a yellow hat! It could only have gotten better if he had a monkey named "Furious George" that would chase the children.
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Thanks Pondscum. I knew zero about that movie when I rented it and was dazzled by the gunkata stuff. I watched it again the next day. And Frailty was great.<p>I watched ST3 stone cold, but I recommend HIGHLY (I can't stress this point enough) that you have a couple drinks before you put it in and a constant drink in your hand throughout. Guaranteed good time.<p>I'm the Hawaiian Organ Donor and I approve of this message.
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BOTW - what a great film, I really, really liked it even though it was full of French people, like talking in French and shit. <p> 8 Legged Freaks - spiders are freaky fuckers. The jumping ones killing off the kids on their dirt bikes was particularly groovy. <p> Still had VHS outlets in 2002? Where do you live Jonah, South Ossetia? Just kidding, I suppose it was plausible but VHS had really been killed off by then especially as people could watch DVDs on the Playstation.
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Spiderman-Quite a bit of fun, and it was refreshing because at this point we were used to superhero movies never respecting the source material even a little. Yea, the goblin's suit was weak, but this got far more right than we ever expected. And in a world of largely crappy comic book movies, something that was just good made us cheer. <P> Attack of the Clones-y'know, I liked this. I did. This was like a 200 million episode of Flash Gordon. For better or worse, if this technology was available in 77 I think this is what Lucas would have done with Star Wars. Overlook the stilted dialogue, and this has a cool, pulpy feel. <P> Sum of All Fears-It was ok I guess. It was odd watching my hometown of Baltimore obliterated by a nuclear weapon so soon after 9-11. The rest was forgettable. <P> Spirit: Stallion of the Cinnabon Saw it with a girl. Sue me. It wasnt that bad. <P> Undercover Brother-wow, that was funnier than it should have been. NPH ripping out someone's spine. <P> Insomnia-good remake. Creepy Williams. Creepy Alaska. Pacino sure looks tired. <P> Windtalkers-No John. Bad John. Hopefully Red Cliff makes up for this and MI2 and Paycheck. <P> Bourne Identity-no one expected this to be good. And no one expected to be involving and exciting. But it was, on both counts. <P> Minority Report-maybe I have no taste, but this is one of my fave Spielberg movies. Loved pretty much everything about this, and saw it a couple times in the theater. Second or third best movie of the year. <P> Men in Black 2: meh. best part, clan of aliens living in a locker. <P> 8 Legged Freaks-I had fun, that was all. <P> Stuart Little 2-same as above. <P> K-19-oh so slow, but not bad. <P> Reign of Fire-dragons, it had draaagoons!! Can't dislike that. <P> Spy Kids 2-wow, they vomitted this up quick, and it showed. Uggh. <P> Signs-yea, I love this movie. The invasion stuff is silly, the first I saw it I thought when all the actors point and stare at Shymalan that it just became some sort of meta-film where all the characters saw the director and recognized the source of their anguish, and Gibson would end the alien invasion by killing shymalan. oh well, I liked what they gave us. <P> Big Fat Greek Wedding-I laughed. <P> XXX-nope, didnt like it.Though the inclusion of Ramstein helped briefly. <P> Road to Perdition-overrated. Law was great though.
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The movies I had over the top expectations for but walked out feeling like someone had just kicked me in the ribs.<p>Windtalkers (one of my all time cinematic letdowns), Collateral Damage, The Time Machine, Attack of the Clones, Men in Black 2, ST: Nemesis (idiots broke the cycle) and Die Another Day.
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Every one of those I agree with, save for Clones, which I had zero expectations for due to Phantom Menace and enjoyed a little as a result. Windtalkers is the worst of that lot, followed by Nemesis. But I would add another to that list, though it might tick off some: Gangs of New York. It wasn't bad like the others, but it seemed almost irrelevant and after hearing of it for years, it was almost a bitter disappointment. Save for Day Lewis' Butcher, it was a bust.
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Gangs of New York - over hyped drivel. <p> SW: Butt Attack of the Clowns - George rapes my wallet again. <p> ST: Nemesis - ugh! <p> Resident Evil - Paul WS Anderson. <p> Austin Powers Goldmember - pounding those horses' bones into fine dust. <p> Van Wilder - why? <p> Windtalkers - I didn't go Woo. <p> Undercover Brother - not a black comedy. <p> MIB 2 - just when you finish wiping, another turd emerges from this asshole. <p> XXX - ADD spunk heaven. <p> Mr. Deeds - oh look, Adam Sandler's playing the same fucking character again. How cute. <p> I Spy - with my little eye something beginning with shit. <p> The Tuxedo - too old to fight, too crap to act, Whackie Chan is turd-tabulous in this trainwreck. <p> Boat Trip - again why? <p> Pluto Nash - Eddie Murphy...in space! <p> Ballistics: Ecks vs Sever - can't even remember it, it was so bad.
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Russian Ark-Definitely an art film, but I think it's mesmerizing to watch. One supposedly continuous unbroken shot, through a huge swathe of Russian history. <P> Rabbit Proof Fence-I love this movie. See it. <P> Intacto-luck vampires. And Mx Von Sydow. A very good thriller. <P> Spirited Away-it wasn't overlooked at the time, but I meet alot of people that didnt see this. This was my fave of 2002, right in front of Two Towers. <P> Adaptation-just great.
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...can you ask him if he got the package? FedEx site says it was delivered but I just want to make sure it was to the correct address.
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That was a nifty little film. Anyone see this? And Invincible with Tim Roth, directed by Herzog.
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If so, Ill stop by before I got to the gym and pick it up.
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I got a kick out of that movie.
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I had forgotten all about Boat Trip (although I think the Latina lead was one of the hottest women I'd ever seen up to that point), The Tuxedo (even JLH couldn't save this with her dripping hotness), I Spy (whoever signed off on that script must have been looking at a ransom note and a box with his son's finger in it) and Mr. Deeds (words fail me).
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So you should have it this morning I'm guessing.<p>974562071847
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Truly is a great film even without the creature. But it does have it and that is icing on the cake.<p> Forgot how much I love the brother that went to college.<p> Although my favorite character may be the homeless guy that helps in the end.<p> I mean he lets a guy crash on his mat, then busts him over the head with a bottle, then calmy helps builds molotav cocktails in a car and even more calmly pours gas on a creature and just stands there watching.<p> Man that guy was amazing!
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adding him in there helped give some humor to the end, which isn't really in humor mode at that point. The family, previously amusing, are focused deelpy on rescuing the girl but the bum still gets some funny moments. I also love that crazy firey dance the beast does right after they light it up, and the look in the eyes of the sister as she walks away as it burns. Wow. That is a definite 4 out of 4 star movie.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 9:06 a.m. CST
Chitty, it stands to reason you'd love molotov cocktails
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
Glad I could make your evening enjoyable. Wait until you see the other stuff.
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but what are your top ten asian films?
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for the asian goodness onslaught that will be my day off tomorrow. <P> Might change, but right now my schedule will be Guard Post, Red Cliff and Shinobi. And I'm gonna rent starship troopers 3 to round it out.
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She had a smoking body and that cool calm look after she shot the creature.<p> So fucking amazing.<p> Also when he dropped the cocktail and the camera show the broken bottle burning and all of the sudden the arrow comes down and pokes the flaming wad.<p> So fucking amazing.<p> I have never seen a series of shots and angles that could make running around the underbelly of a bridge so cool.<p> Also the initial creature attack early in the film was among the best I've seen in a long, long, time.<p> I know I'm rambling, but I will watch that film at least four more times before the weekend is over.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST
I'm taking tomorrow off just to catch up on movies
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
I'll be watching The Guard Post and then going with something not so recent that I never got around to watching, like PTU or Seven Swords.<p>I expected more Fred with his boss away today.
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The forestry service came in with a small fast bulldozer and made a loop around the field to contain it.<p> I don't know what was hotter, the grass or my dad's temperature.<p> We never fucked with those things again.
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It sets the standard high for creature features. Actually, the odd thing is I have a friend who loves cheesy monster crap, all of it, and when I showed him Host he just shrugged and said it was o.k. I can only imagine that he was so looking forward to the cheesy obvious motions of a monster flick, that the originality and unpredictability of the Host caused him to lose his footing. <p> To think I saw that film, Children of Men and Pan's Labyrinth in a 3 day period. The first and third at the theater, and The Host fresh from Ebay.
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naawww. I'm just kidding. <p> Jonah....Steve is probably the coolest religious person on the planet, what do you mean?!! <p> And Pillow-- Death At a Funeral was fucking awesome. I didn't find any of it slow....it had an incredible build. The main guy is great...and I love the shit on the finger sequence.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST
the CG of the beast in The Host was incredible....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...its motion in those slow mo shots is so fucking real it makes me piss myself.
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was interesting. I think I saw a truncated version. It could have been better. <P> PTU was good, at least I thought so.
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once caught the last bit of Dateline episode or something like that. They were trying to create a hook for a piece of unlikely and debauched individuals coming to Christ. The tagline was this. "Reborn? A stripper...a prostitute..and a Baldwin brother." Loved how they kept the last bit there like being a baldwin brother is far more debauched than the previous two. Suffice to say, I didnt stick around to watch the segment.
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The Host isn't going anywhere. It's yours now. We need you to get on the bus so we can discuss this stuff.<p>That opening is impressive though. You gotta love that they threw the creature at us right out of the starting gate.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST
"Reborn? A stripper...a prostitute..and a Baldwin brother."
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oh fuck.....I'm giggling. People are looking at me funny....hahaha.
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I love the scene where it runs into that packed trailer and you just see it rocking, and the bystanders looking on helpless, and they we see it burst forth, chasing that overweight guy who tries to trundle away. <P> Love too how they don't know what it is, and someone suggests an "amazonian river dolphin"
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might have bypassed Gojira as favorite asian monster flick. Need to re-watch Gojira before I start saying that though.
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I wouldn't even really call it a monster movie.....its a family dramedy first and foremost. It could have easily been a kidnapping film about the family coming together and kicking ass to get back their girl. The family moments were great. Without them...it would have been a sci-fi channel monster movie with really good effects.
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watch Chocolate and Daisy. They rock. As does The Warlords. Running Wild and Mr. Socrates are good too. And you will likely be amused by Machine Girl.
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That's three hard core movies in three days.<p> Can you imagine back in my hallucnagenic days and me watching those three back-to-back-to-back?<p> I would be sitting beside Carl Childers in the nervous hospital breaking out into blubbering coniptions every 30 minutes.
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but ultimately the monster is in there, and the parts containing it are true to the genre of monster flick. That's the genius of it. It really is two movies spliced together. You could just throw the family into the monster movie and have a diff flick, or throw the monster into a family movie and also get a diff flick. But the genius here was the monster movie and the family movie collided with one another. My admiration grows as we speak.
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Pan's I saw Painted Veil and Letters from Iwo Jima back to back. Seriously, that was the best January at the movies ever.
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...the casting was top notch. That seems to be what I have noticed with Korean films....they are very naturalistic with their acting style. There are scenes I'm sure are scripted, but they play almost improvisational.
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...but have held off the last couple years watching it due to mixed reviews. I really need to get it over and done with. Do me a favor Jonah and watch them in this order: Shinobi, Guard Post and Red Cliff. And let me know immediately what you thought of them. Send me an e-mail if you have to.<p>The Filipino family that lives across the street from me are born agains. Every Christmas they put a put out a huge "JESUS" sign on their front lawn, along with a life-sized nativity scene and other assorted Christmas crap. They have 4 girls, all under the age of 8 and I just noticed the wife is preggers again. I guess they'll keep trying until they have a boy. They annoy the phuck out of me.
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I woke up in a cold sweat last night with this on my mind.... <p> Name some films with amazing original scores that are far better than the film itself.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST
Jonah! I say the Nay! Better than Gojira? Take that back!
by toadkillerdog
I liked The Host for the silliness of the family dramedy, and for the very cool monster effects. But it in no way comes close to Gojira.
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That is an excellent observation! My wife and I were trying to figure it out the other day watching Running Wild. It has the same setup as an american action film, it has the same basic plot, and similar scenes but the whole thing feels more real and natural. The villain, when being chased, behaves the way any person being chased would, not the way a "villain" might behave. <P> In Host, when they have that slapstick breakdown at the mass memorial, and as the fighting brothers are being pulled apart, the younger bro leaps up and kicks the other. I always wondered. Was that in the script, or did the actor do that last minute? I think not, since someone could have been hurt(this isnt thailand after all) but it feels like it is, and it gets a huge laugh as a result.
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they annoy you because they are christians or other reasons?
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The great use of the wide shots.<p> In the day and age of everyone trying to find the new "wicked cool" way to place a camera and get the trendy new angle, you have several simple wide shots that add to the scope.<p> The wide shot in the lab, when he tells the guy to pour the chems in the sink.<p> The wide shots of the creature in the first attacks (both in the parking lot and the lady on the train looking down).<p> Granted there were some great angles and positions, but those wide shots balanced and spread them out.<p> Titties!
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Aug. 28, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST
I have no problem with Christmas decorations.....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
And even though I'm pretty anti-organized religion, I am able to disassociate Christmas and Christianity. I think taking "Merry Christmas," out of it and making it "Winter Festival," or whatever the fuck they try to call it-- is fucking horse shit. Its fucking Christmas!! In our modern age it doesn't have to have anything whatsoever to do with Christianity or Christ. I know Muslim families that put up Christmas lights and get a tree every year. For them it is just a great family holiday......<p> So I'm cool with all the in yo' face Christmas decorations. Its my favorite time of year...
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Is just an awesome actor. He was also in Antarctic Journal, Memories of Murder and The Show Must Go On and pound for pound he can give any actor in Hollywood a run for their money. I'd watch him and the guy from Oldboy in a movie about door to door deodorant salesmen.
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I didn't. I plan on re-watching Gojira very soon. I just wonder if the actual movie-making quality is as strong, or the fact of the bomb metaphor and the cultural impact of Godzilla are what make Gojira such a favorite. I would never talk trash on the big guy. Believe me. I watch that movie almost every year.
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In my yoot. Fun stuff I must admit!
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I remember not instantly recognizing him from Memories when I watched Host, and then seeing him in Antarctic Journal made me see what a great actor he is. A good part of the reason that film worked at all was him.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST
I think the store scene was somewhat improvised
by ChittyChittyGangBang
When they are past the quarintine and sneak back into the store.<p> The father is chastising them for making fun of their brother.<p> The stuff he is saying and the way the other actors look say to me there was some fun outtakes from that scene.
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I have my eye on you Jonah Echo. I tolerate lots of movie bashing -but nothing touches Gojira. You are in danger of receiving extreme unction!
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he passes gas whether he is having a good day or a bad one." Or something like that.
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per our copious kaiju conversations, I have seen many many many giant creature flicks. Gojira will always have an exalted place in their pantheon, as the granddaddy, come what may. That stark black and white imagery cannot ever truly be matched. And most people don't realize how strong the story of the original flick is. Gojira is as much one of Japan's finest cinematic hours as something like Seven Samurai is.
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how are you today?
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When done safe and properly of course.<p>
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I borrowed Cider House Rules from a co-worker. I'm gonna give it another go round this weekend, and see if anything has changed since 99.
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Had my bocce league last night. Little rough around the edges.
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There is nothing like a fire mission when you get to drop an HE round or twenty on a target. I loved being in Artillery!
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didnt accumulate any bodies you cant explain this morning?
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Aug. 28, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST
Not to change the subject, but has anyone seen..
by ChittyChittyGangBang
Time Life's documentary The World at War?<p> I caught an infomercial on it and good gosh that looks like some hardcore shit.<p> I find all that WWII footage both grotesque and jaw dropping at the same time.
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Bocce and hungover are terms I have never heard in the same sentence before. Bocce and maalox, yep, heard that one!
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I saw TL series over twenty years ago. Not sure if it is same thing re-packaged. But only so much WWII footage exists - so it must be.
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Check this out. Look at the pics in order, and read the captions if you can. It's an epic tale of man, bee and fire. All real photos. <P> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2243176
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I believe you.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST
Make no bones about it, I'd ban all religion if I could
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
But I tolerate it because it's easy enough to ignore and this may come as a surprise but even here in the Bible Belt I can avoid it. And I'm a hypocrite. Christmas is my favorite time of the year. I love decorations as does my wife and we put up lights, holly and the tree every year.<p>But the born agains bug me. They are usually the ones trying to convert others (our neighbor has made attempts at both my wife and myself a few times) and chances are you were born right the first time. You just liked the bottle and lines of coke.<p>So long as the religious types realize that being gay is NOT a choice and they let the woman decide what she can do with her body even if they find it reprehensible, then I have zero issues with religion. We'll get along just fine. My wife believes in reincarnation which to me is the zaniest belief of all but we're soul mates so I can let just about anything slide.
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It's really all about the bar afterwards though. We went undefeated in the regualr season last night. Lots of celebrating.<p> It also reminds me of a favorite movie line. Guess the film:<p> "The Statue of Liberty serves as a symbol...for naked women everywhere. BOCCE BALLS!!!
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Excellent.
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...I have no problem with religion as long as it doesn't encourage prejudice, hatred, and converting others.
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That just didn't give a damn about the swingset!
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Remember in The Host when the creature throws up all of those bones and fluid.<p> That's what the next morning is like after a night of Everclear.<p> You'll start calling friends to make sure it was strangers you were throwing up and not freinds.<p> Good stuff though!
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a christian, though I don't really use the term "born again", I'd actually agree with pretty much all you say. Though, I even try to have tolerance for those who seem a bit confused with it all, and play the "let me tell you how to live" game.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST
Everyone in my life believes in the Big Guy upstairs...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
...and is a carnivore and I love them all the same so even though I have a reputation of being the most intolerant jerkwad on the planet, I'm really not. I'm a "whatever floats your boat" kinda guy so long as it doesn't involve hurting women and children. And that's the last I'll ever say on the subject.
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My fave line was "It's so beautiful. I'm so proud to be an american rigt now."
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...why did nearly every "Born-again," do coke off a hooker's ass? Fuck....they live it up more than I ever have.....
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Galactus?
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Remember the Born Again Busey phase? Dear Jeebus, that was scary.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST
Busey is the one guy that could convert me....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
....he makes life look fun.
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the bees vs. rednecks with fire link? Danny, Chitty, HOD. Check it out. For all I know, that's chitty in those pics.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST
Jonah, I read somewhere about a dude blowing his house up
by toadkillerdog
Trying to get rid of insects. I do understand the law of disproportinate escalation though. If a critter wont take the hint with a can of Raid, nuke the beast!
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"Whatever floats your boat...." <p> Equinas loves you for your acceptance...
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look at how well shot the pics are. Those are some beautiful photos..of a totally insane irresponsible event!
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I dont recognize the qoute. what is it?
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...its odd. I like bees more than rednecks....so....<p> But I did get a kick out of the line, "12/23 NEVER FORGET"
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I agree. I felt bad for the burned bees, but got such a laugh out of the insane euphoria those guys seemed to get from nearly incinerating their house.
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Who the fuck would throw a can of paint thinner into a fire....about 15 feet from your fucking house? Douche bags.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST
yeah....the quality is good. Looks like digiSLR....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
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Splash. When Hannah first walks out of the water and walks i nfront of the SOL tourguide.<p> What's the 12/23 quote?
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I need to go pick up a set. I saw The World at War probably 25 years ago on PBS. It's an excellent series, the DVD set is nice but for my money Ken Burns' recent series is the best documentary ever done about WWII from an American perspective. For an all around perspective and to appreciate the British once and for all, the BBC History of World War II is awesome, maybe the best on the subject.<p>And thank Flying Spaghetti Monster for Channel Four as they gave us our first good doc for WWI called The First World War - The Complete Series.
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follow the link I sent above. That will explain it.
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The hillbilly put a caption on the bottom REMEMBER 12/23.....like mocking REMEMBER 9/11.......except this is a the fall of the Bee Towers.
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I'll watch them in that order, and since I'll be at home, I'll give you a play by play as I see them. I'll just post here, unless you want me to send more detailed emails.
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That saddens me more than Holocaust footage.
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did you want a go at it?
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Aug. 28, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST
Jonah, give me a play by play here if you want
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
I'll be watching movies all day myself so I guess I'll just keep the laptop by my side.
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we are such movie geeks. I'll do Guard Post first. I'm looking forward to it.
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that was this morning. I didnt do the typical giant list, but we had a long discussion on 2002. It was a pretty great year.
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<p> About Schmidt<p> Adaptation<p> The Adventures of Pluto Nash<p> Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever<p> Big Trouble<p> Blade II<p> Blue Crush<p> The Bourne Identity<p> Catch Me if You Can<p> Collateral Damage<p> Die Another Day<p> Eight Legged Freaks<p> Frailty<p> Ghost Ship<p> Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets<p> The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers<p> Minority Report<p> One Hour Photo<p> Orange County<p> Panic Room<p> Phone Booth<p> Punch-Drunk Love<p> Rollerball<p> Signs<p> Spider-man<p> Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones<p> Stuart Little 2<p> The Transporter<p> The Tuxedo<p> Undercover Brother<p>
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Aug. 28, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST
2002 was the first list I had comedies on i think....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
The Tuxedo, Undercover Brother, Orange County, and Rollerball (funniest fucking movie of all time)
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no Lilo and Stitch?
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I thought that was supposed to bad? I never actually saw it. Not really a Murphy fan to begin with.
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And let me preface this by saying I probably haven't seen half the movies you gents have seen (like Pluto Nash, which I can guaran-fucking-tee wouldn't be on my list anyways:<p>Black Hawk Down, Bourne Identity, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Catch Me if You Can, Reign of Fire, Road to Perdition, Sum of All Fears, Transporter, Collateral Damage, Count of Monte Cristo. I realize that I ain't seen shit from '02.
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The backlash was fucking ridiculous. It is a well made family comedy basically. It is an innocent, goofy, family sci-fi. Eddie is good, Rosario is fine, Randy Quaid is cool, and Sam Rockwell's fucking hilarious.
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Road to Perdition, and Count of Monte Crrrrrristo. <p> Sum of all Fears?! Fuck me....is that like my Rollerball nomination of so bad its fucking hilarious?
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It was like watching paint dry.
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You have no soul if you don't love Catch Me.
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I was expecting time to stop and Eddie Murphy emerge from my TV a la The Ring and force me to do unspeakable things with a ear of corn where every kernel is a harsh reminder of just how godawful the movie is.<p>As it turns out, it wasn't nearly as bad as the critics would have you to believe. It had a few laugh out loud moments which is a few more than Fool's Gold had.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST
HOD....you fucking fast forwarded through Pistol Whipped?
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Thats like saying you wore multiple layers to a strip-club to ensure you didn't feel a thing...
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I mean I wont go seek it out likely, but if its on tv, Ill stop and give it a whirl.It's one of those movies that everyone seemed to hate,but I dont know if I ever met anyone who actually saw it. Thanks for the heads-up Danny. I do like sci-fi comedies if done well.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST
Randy Quaid and Rockwell are both great in it...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
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stuff I liked and loved: Overall, it was a pleasant year with great movies, but more likes than loves here, I think. <P> 21 Grams American Splendor <P> Big Fish <P> Bon Voyage <P> Bruce Almighty <P> Calendar Girls <P> Code 46 <P> The Company <P> The Cooler <P> The Core <P> Elephant <P> Elf <P> Finding Nemo <P> Girl with a Pearl Earring <P> Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S. <P> Holes <P> House of Sand and Fog <P> The Hulk <P> I Am David <P> I Capture the Castle <P> I'm Not Scared <P> Identity <P> Intolerable Cruelty <P> Les Invasions barbares <P> The Italian Job <P> Japanese Story <P> Kill Bill Vol. 1 <P> Kitchen Stories <P> Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life <P> The Last Samurai <P> Looney Tunes: Back in Action <P> The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King <P> Lost in Translation <P> Love Actually <P> Luther <P> Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World <P> Matchstick Men <P> The Matrix Reloaded <P> A Mighty Wind <P> Mystic River <P> Natural City <P> Oldboy <P> Ong-Bak: Muay Thai Warrior <P> Open Range
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Open Water <P> Osama <P> Peter Pan <P> Bubba Hotep <P> In America <P> Pieces of April <P> Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl <P> The Reckoning <P> Runaway Jury <P> The Rundown <P> School of Rock <P> Schultze Gets the Blues <P> Seabiscuit <P> Secondhand Lions <P> Shanghai Knights <P> Shattered Glass <P> Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas <P> The Station Agent <P> The Statement <P> The Story of the Weeping Camel <P> Sylvia <P> Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines <P> Tokyo Godfathers <P> Touching the Void <P> Les Triplettes de Belleville <P> Veronica Guerin <P> Whale Rider <P> Willard <P> Wonderful Days <P> X2: X-Men United <P> Zatoichi <P> Zhou Yu's Train <P> Winged Migration
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Could put out Minority Report and Catch Me in the same year. No wonder I'd be willing to be his personal ball washer.<p>So what movie from 2002 did we all agree on?
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Aug. 28, 2008, 11:32 a.m. CST
I think we should name our top 3 from every year....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
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And underused Lance Henrickson. I tried, dude, I really did. Any one of us could have written a more engaging movie.<p>And you gotta understand that I'm new to the DTV thing. Maybe I just need to warm up to this low budget schlock.
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Yikes. That's a flame war waiting to happen.
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Minority Report, Punch-Drunk Love, Signs
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Yeah...it is a much different viewing mindset I shall admit. I just have fun with those movies. Pistol Whipped is another one where my buddy and I were laughing non-stop throughout the whole fucking thing. And have the time I couldn't even hear what Seagal was saying...we had to put subtitles on!!
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Aug. 28, 2008, 11:42 a.m. CST
...but Seagal is tough as fuck in that movie...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
when he rocks that cop in the police station or smokes those fools in the bowling alley and then bows to the cleaning guy. And that fucking poor man's Jimmy Caan mobster guy, "....when I fucker her in the ass....I promise not to wipe my dick on her drapes when I'm done..."
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When Ahnuld said "Freeze in Hell" we lost it.<p>
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Loved that film. I recommended it to a friend, though, and he's still never forgiven me for it.
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...I've heard many personal friends say it really disturbed them. It shows the ugly side of people and people just cant accept that in a so-called romantic sort of film.
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Pistol Whipped was excellent for that sort of straight to dvd cheap action film. It was one of the best I've ever seen in that genre. But when the fuck did Seagal become full on Creole?
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"SHUT SHUT SHUT SHUT SHUT SHUT SHUT...SHUT UP!!!" <p> <p> You saw a little of that chracter in BTDKYD. Have I mentioned I loved that film?
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...and the Dennis Farina clone getting shot in the restaurant was OK, but Seagal mumbles his lines and the editing was done so quickly to avoid showing that the Zen master has lost a step or two. I look at Sammo Hung who is twice as fat but twice as fast as doesn't require quick cuts to make him look faster.<p>The shootout at the end has a few neat moments. With a bottle of rum and a friend it might have been loads better.
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It is not a bad flick. It aint for the hardcore scf-fi geek, and definitely not for the Eddie Murphy haters, but it is enjoyable for what it is. A goofy moon based mostly family friendly movie.
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This is where we get into some very contentious territory. And my skin is too thin today to take a beating from every single guy here.
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Did you see that commercial for the mattress store on PDL's special features? PSH is like, "Are you lookin' for a mattress?! Then come on down!!" and then he jumps off I think a bus or something with a guitar and bounces off a mattress and just smacks the pavement. Its so fucking funny.....
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Aug. 28, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST
Oh shit...here it is!! Everyone watch this...funny as FUCK.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
http://tinyurl.com/3ad7m4
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Only watched it once, I guess I need to see it again.
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For comedy and nice naked chicks I go with On Deadly Ground.<p> For best flick I have to go with Above the Law.
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Interesting statement considering the nature of the bannings. I'm sorry you feel that way.
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Daaaaaamn! We're getting close to having every AICN regular up in this mug.<p>For the record, I don't have a problem with anyone on this site. I'm like Fred in that regard.
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Maybe.
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But I also like the jerks. We shouldn't be so quick to judge the jerks - they need love, too.
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In PDL....Sandler uses the Snack-Pack rewards to fly around. He buys like a thousand things of pudding because he realizes some loop-hole where its actually worth like 100 times as much as the pudding cost in flier miles. That part is based on a real story.
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See Hellboy II yet? I can't remember if it's out tomorrow for you or already out...
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I'm gonna cheat and say Executive Decision since I think it's the best movie he's been in.
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Return of the King<p>The Last Samurai <p>Master and Commander <p>X2<p>Runaway Jury
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Out For Justice, Under Siege, Pistol Whipped
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Boss gone, Fred off work Friday (Fredday). Fred do nuthin rest of day but chat online, eat gummie bears and suck air!
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My daughter loves gummie bears. It's her "reward" if she "goes on the potty".<p>aaahhh, the joys of parenthood.
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Wow....2003 was pretty lame. Here is what I had fun with.... <p> <p> Bubba Ho-Tep Daredevil<p> Darkness Falls<p> Dreamcatcher<p> Final Destination 2<p> Freddy vs. Jason<p> Hollywood Homicide<p> House of the Dead<p> Hulk<p> Identity<p> Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life<p> The Last Samurai<p> The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen<p> Looney Tunes: Back in Action<p> The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King<p> Lost in Translation<p> Malibu's Most Wanted<p> Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World<p> Seabiscuit<p> Tears of the Sun<p> Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines<p> Willard<p> Wrong Turn<p>
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1998-Dark City, Babe: Pig in the City, The Truman Show <P> 1999-The Iron Giant, Toy Story 2,Magnolia <P> 2000- Crouching Tiger, Color of Paradise, O Brother Where Art Thou? <P> 2001- LOTR, A.I., Donnie Darko <P> 2002-Spirited Away, Minority Report, Two Towers <P> 2003-ROTK, Master and Commander,In America
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Aug. 28, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST
if someone fed me gummie bears more often...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...I wouldn't be so depressed.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST
Jonah...didn't we start this countdown on the last TB?
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
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If you look at my list, I bet you will see at least some of those you are worried bout listed there. At least one of the Matrix sequels is listed there.
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X2<p> Return of the King <p> Love Actually <p> 28 Days later <p> Bend it Like Beckham <p> Underworld<p> Master and Commander
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Aug. 28, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST
Fred thinks Gummie bears should be required eating
by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar
Then again, if not, it leaves more gummies bears for Fred!<p> Greedy Fred
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Just passing by, thought I'd do the hello thing.
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1) X2 <p> 2) Return of the King <p> 3) Love Actually
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I enjoyed all your movies, except Bend it like Beckham which I've never seen.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST
Bend It Like Beckham is a very sweet film...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...it makes me feel happy when I see it.
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It very funny, and it shows a different culture that Fred never knew much about. Fred recommend it for a rainy day.
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And that movie, for me is Equilibrium. I walked out of the theater stunned by how much I liked that movie.<p>Malibu's Most Wanted is one of those movies I will always stop and watch if I come across it on TV. Always a good time to watch Malibu Most Wanted. That and Houses of the Dead.<p> Yeah technically it sucks but it is entertaining as all hell. Plus it had Lois Lane from Smallville whipping out her sweater meat. If House of the dead had midgets in it it might have been a perfect movie shit movie.
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like 5 in the morning with huge pitchers of coffee beside the computer?
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Should do a script that involves zombie midgets. Feel free to jump on this idea. Just make it cool and throw some tits in the story.
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Bend it Like Beckham and 28 Days Later aren't on the list I had. Both good movies.
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These talkbacks are full of drivel now....
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Open your mouth and I'll drivel a little urine in there for you to gargle with before bed.
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Don't assume its morning for everbody. It nine PM for me.
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Just caught that recently too.<p>Hugs and kisses matalo!
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Stomp any alien bug infestations lately?
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Though I may need another cup of coffee soon. Must stay away during my class tonight...
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28 Days Later <p> Lost In Translation<p> Master and Commander <p> oddly enough I have done a marathon of these 3 films back to back which was a terrible, terrible idea. It made me hate all 3 of them for about a week.
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http://tinyurl.com/5oe9ce<p> Love the little phone jerk by PSH in the beginning.
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Damnit. In that case I replace 28 with Seabiscuit.....and Equinas agrees, that is one FINE film!!
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Aug. 28, 2008, 1:13 p.m. CST
Any year with a Tarantino or Wachowski Brothers...
by Hawaiian Organ Donor
...film is a year I don't want to post my favorites because each and every one of you will be lining up to paddle my arse into hamburger.<p>So I'll just go the safe route and say Gigli, How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days and Just Married.
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DannyGlovers need to change list - yet again!
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I really enjoyed Matrix Reloaded when I first saw it. Not up to the first and it made some mistakes, but it's a good action film. Revolutions sort of ruined it for me, but I went to see Reloaded twice in the same week when it came out. <P> Kill Bill Vol.1 is a great time. I think it's the perfect line between the high end stuff and the schlock. I dont really like Tarantino, but I think these movies represent the kind of thing he tries for every time. And that soundtrack was K-I-L-L-E-R.
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I remmeber it from the DVD. I wonder if PSH actually did that? It looked pretty real.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST
HoboCode -- you were born with an artificial heart!!
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
No love for Catch Me or Seabiscuit?!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!
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is reason enough to like it. He really captured the heart of the movie. Man, that was a great role, wonderfully acted.
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...and see if I can narrow it down to 3.<p>ROTK, X2, Oldboy, T3, Love Actually, *gulps* Kill Bill, Last Samurai, Master and Commander, School of Rock and Seabiscuit.<p>Matrix Reloaded and Ong Bak get honorable mentions.<p>It really was the year of the quality blockbuster.
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I'm mainly addressing the likes of HOD and Danny
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Fred enjoyed it. Fred was rooting for Leo.
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I missed: <P> Hero with Jet Li. Man this movie rocked. I saw it in 2003, even though it was released here in 2004. <P> Man Without a Past. Now this is a great foreign film. Anyone here actually see it? It is ABSOLUTLEY worth seeking out. <P> North Fork. An odd film that really works. It seems too stylized or too precious initially, but it all works together in the end. <P>
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It's elitest and offensive to working people. I was enraged watchign it.
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Why do you think Seabiscuit was elitist?
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Just too many awesome movies. And I didn't even include the other blockbusters I loved or enjoyed like PotC, LXG, Matrix Revolutions, Underworld, Finding Nemo, Underworld and The Hulk.<p>What a great year for cinema.
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Hey my man. Nope, no bug stompings have ocurred lately, unfortunanly. I did, however, get to embarrass the living hell out of a pompous ass French Foreign Legion Captain. Fred, my friend, life is all about the little things like that.<p>And with that I'm going to bed later folks.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST
I thought 2003 was one of the weakest years...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
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It wasn't earth shattering, but it was good.<p>Hero was a great film.
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What? The whole point of the film is how the country was in such shitty condition, the working people needed something to make them proud again and lift them up. Its all about how oppressed the poor were! Elitist my ass. Why...because Bridges is a rich guy that happens to be nice? So thats putting down the poor?
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Maybe some Space Bugs will land in middle of night and provide entertainment! Legionnaire tipping probably as much fun as cow tipping.
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...one of the worst soundtracks of all time and just gimmick after gimmick after gimmick. Its a less interesting Blade film. Scott Speedman is a weak leading man...and that film makes me sick to fucking death of the color blue. Len-- white balance a different color tone once in awhile motherfucker!!
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I'm West Coast...so I come on at 7am when I get in to the office. I was on last night at like 10pm my time....I sleep like a fucking bear.
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Here we go again!<p>Scott Speedman is indeed horrible. I liked it solely for Bill Nighy and you know who in the tight leather.<p>At least I know I have you in my corner for LXG, DGDB.
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It's one of those movies that just feels cheap, like there aren't any real people in it, or like the sun never rises in that world. There are a couple of scenes with the characters interacting with the 'real' world, but they seem like backdrops, or stage sets, or something. (I know they actually ARE stage sets, but they shouldn't seem that way) anyway, hard to explain, just something kind of off about it, besides the obvious complaints.
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Aug. 28, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST
Bill Nighy is always cool....it got so soap operaish...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...at the end if I remember correctly. <p> LXG is pure fucking entertainment.
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Fred liked Underworld.
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It was a pretty straightforward drama, and it was inspiring for what it was.
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Good to see you. Almost never 'run into you' except for political TB's.