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'It Will Shock You
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Draper Gets A New Secretary!!
The New Girl!! MAD MEN 2.5!!

Published at: Aug. 24, 2008, 9:55 p.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!!
Tonight:
"The New Girl." Joan might have found Don a perfect secretary; Don finds himself in the middle of personal issues between a TV comedian and the man's wife.
Next Sunday:
"Maidenform." Don and Duck try to make peace; Peggy tries to get into the executives’ after-hours meetings; Duck deals with a family visit.
The Sunday after:
" The Gold Violin." Don buys a new car; Pete, Harry and Ken strategize to attract new business; Don's secretary makes a grave error; Cooper has a new piece of art in his office.
Sixteen U.S. states, including Joe Biden’s home state of Delaware, had laws against interracial marriage until they were overturned on June 12, 1967 via Loving Vs. Virginia. (A 10-year-old Biden moved with his family to Delaware in 1953.) TV Guide talks to Bryan Batt, who plays Salvatore Romano, about his character’s 1961 marriage on the show: 10 p.m. Sunday. AMC.

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September 23!!

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  • Aug. 24, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST

    testing 1 2 3

    by xega

    test

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Hmmm

    by medicinaluser

    Is this show any good?

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    3 hours till i get to watch this

    by RokurGepta

    can't wait

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    This show is currently the best show on tv

    by RokurGepta

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    the TV guide interviewer and Brian Batt are hella gay 4 each ot

    by RokurGepta

    meow

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Mad men in New Zealand?

    by MoseSchrute

    I'm moving to kiwi country in a few weeks, does anyone know if they show mad men down there, or will I have to buy each ep on iTunes?

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Great Show

    by NudeandAroused

    Probably the best show on TV by far.

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 7:02 p.m. CST

    still amazes me that some people don't know about newsgroups

    by RokurGepta

    ...

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Love this show

    by photoboy

    I only recently bought the season 1 DVDs but I've really grown to love the show. I initially bought it just for January Jones (she really does portray Betty as profoundly sad), but the show itself is fantastic as well.

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Hasn't lost its way at all

    by SnowDogs

    I'm new to the show--I just watched all 13 episodes of season 1 and the first 4 of season 2 in the last two weeks. There's been no lag time between seasons for me. And I have to say that season 2 feels absolutely as good as season 1 did--I noticed no drop in quality whatsoever. I don't even understand where the haters are finding things to dislike in season 2. Anways, this show rocks.

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST

    there will always be haters

    by RokurGepta

    haters love to hate

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Herc- When you putting up ....

    by Judge Briggs

    The fall premiere dates for shows?

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 7:44 p.m. CST

    That Joan,

    by TELF

    Just kills me. I watch the show with my missus and luckily she just smirks at my barely contained arousal by everything Joan does, says, wears, doesn't wear and etc.<p>Great, great show.

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 8:59 p.m. CST

    TELF...bet joan arouses the missus too

    by bacci40

    can anyone please explain why duck wasnt fired after last week? and why do people not like betty? and why isnt the head of hbo getting his ass handed to him for turning down this show?

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 9:44 p.m. CST

    "It's Mozart!"

    by fiester

    Heh. Too funny.

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Why the hate for seaons 2

    by InActionMan

    I think people miss that there is no central mystery this season like season one's "What is Don Draper's secret and will he be found out?" <p> People have to realize that there is not going to be a big mystery from now on. <p> Mad Men is at its core about the moment when almost the entire culture changed radically almost overnight in the space of only four or five years. It is about the death of the patriarchy and to some degree the end of the hypocrisy that permeated American life prior to the 1960s. <p> Ad men are professional lairs and these ad men don't only lie in their ads they lie to their co-workers, families and even themselves.

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 10:38 p.m. CST

    It amazes me.....

    by RokurGepta

    that more people aren't talking about this show........

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 10:39 p.m. CST

    There's mystery in season 2

    by RokurGepta

    it's just a little more layered

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 11:16 p.m. CST

    So Draper was trying to bribe that cop, right?

    by SnowDogs

    The thing about someone from work bringing $500 the next day, even though the fine was $150?

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Brilliant

    by Sacredfun

    The interplay between Peggy and Bobbie was great. Elisabeth Moss is SO sharp. And I loved the gags this week - Pete looking at the girly mags readying to produce a sample... cut to Sterling furiously paddling the ball. And Joan's line about the ring not needing to mean everything, and yet... the timing these actors have for the material is just excellent.

  • Aug. 24, 2008, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Pete still needs a monologue this season...

    by DanielKurland

    that is equal to his "What a wife should be/hunting" monologue last season. Him talking to Don about how he should feel about his dad's death came somewhat close, but I'm still waiting.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 1:14 a.m. CST

    The social politics underlying MAD MEN

    by Greggers

    The culture of capitalism renders our lives hollow and meaningless. As drones pursuing the carrot of "success," we grow farther from our true soul, our true nature. No matter what lengths we go in searching for some measure of emotional sensation, whether through the constant pursuit of consumer goods, or the carnal pursuits of "sin," we still can't escape the void our lives have become. <br><br> Eventually, somebody on this show is going to tune in, turn on, and drop out. Either it will be Don, or Don will watch helplessly as someone else does it, underscoring his bitter predicament.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Don and Peggy

    by Prossor

    is the most fascinating relationship of the 3 main characters don, pete, peggy or anyone else. because both are kind of similar who have a strong work ethic to achieve and you can see they have a professional respect between them as showcased by how peggy becomes the troubleshooter for them, and the best conversation of the episode with don by her hospital bed.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 2:41 a.m. CST

    "Peggy, listen to me. Get out of here and move forward. This n

    by TequilaMocking

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 2:46 a.m. CST

    The mystery is about ...

    by drbambee

    Don and Peggy and who they are to each other - NO they aren't lovers or anything, they watch each other's back. Now, finding out how deep that goes will be the big onion to peel for the rest of the season. It was there all along and we didn't pick up the hints. Is Peggy the one Don sent that book to? I don't think it was Menkins any more! Also, the little comments about Don and Peggy have been flying around the office. People are picking up on something. It BRILLIANT that Don and Peggy have some "thing" between them. And NO, I don't want it to be romantic. The thing is dirty and necessary and ugly and only the two of them know this stuff about each other. And I LOVE Don's quote to Peggy, "It'll shock you how much this didn't happen!" EFFING Masterful! I can't wait to unravel more the the Don and Peggy mystery. Again, not a romantic one.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Season 2 Curse

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Some people always think the first thing is better, in music, movies, TV whatever. I guess it's true sometimes but there's a knee-jerk "their earlier stuff was better" reaction at times. <p>In regards to Mad Men, it seems strange because I honestly can't tell any difference between the two seasons. Sometimes when a show kind of changes gears, people don't like it cause it's not what they initially fell for (see: Lost), but here it's been pretty consistent.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Great episode

    by lex romero

    Love Don and Peggy's relationship. Everyone acting in this show is so fucking good, Pete was great as always, just some of his little idosnycracies, you kind of constantly feel like he's putting on a front, never sure if we're ever seeing the real him. And this episode lead me to believe even more that this series may end with Don killing himself. The whole thing about "what do you enjoy Don?" and "I don't feel anything". The idea that perhaps all his affairs are because he's constantly searching for something, some moment of emotion or connection that he can't even get with his wife.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Well that was fucking great

    by INWOsuxRED

    Don is a whore like his mother. Don's visit to Peggy was amazing, as was Peggy asking for her money back. You spend half the episode wondering why Peggy is letting Don walk all over her like that, and then you realize how much she owes him.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    There is no Season 2 curse.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Not on this show. If you go back and take a look at the early episodes of Season 1, you'll see just how alike the seasons are in their pacing and purposefully slow-to-reveal plot threads. The people who are complaining about S2 (and there are very few), seem to want some sort of LOST-Hatch reveal or an Adama-Gets-Shot moment. That's not what MAD MEN is about. Nor should it be. This is a completely different show; one that's built on relationships and monster subtext.<P>The tale end of Season 1 kicked it into high gear by focusing on the Don/Dick mystery as well as Sterling's hilarious behavior and shocking reality check. I think it's fair to say that some people may have focused a little too much on the Don/Dick mystery aspect of the show and they appear to want another character plot-line that's on the same level. (This seems to be the cause of their dissatisfaction as they prefer a show filled with some action and shockers.) But I have little doubt that Season 2 is following the same meticulous pattern that will culminate in yet another moment of choice and change for the characters.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Characters

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Maybe it goes without saying but last night's episode reminded me how many great characters there are on the show. <p>I'm wondering also if the credits pretty much give away Don's fate. Obviously, his type is on the way out. I guess the artistic chip on his shoulder is a hint he may escape this end, but I think that may just add to the eventual tragedy.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Yes! The Don and Peggy relationship...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...just may turn out to be the most fascinating turn of all. I'm glad to see others bring this up in Talkback. Actually, I think Peggy may be the type of person that Don seems to always be looking for. There is definitely something about her that stands out from the rest of the rabble that he deals with on a daily basis. I think he sees her as genuine, intelligent, talented, and unique. As a result, he seems to respect her quite a bit.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Season 2 Curse Redux

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    If you read what I wrote, the idea is that the "curse" is that the PERCEPTION - among some - is always that's it's a step down from the first. Not that it actually is.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    lex romero

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Quote: "And this episode lead me to believe even more that this series may end with Don killing himself."<P>Very interesting idea! I remember after re-watching the Series 1 marathon, I had a random thought that by series' end, Pete Campbell will end up killing Don with that now fabled .22 rifle!

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Thunderbolt Ross

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Agreed. I think I was backing you up on that.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Another fantatstic episode.

    by HoboCode

    The scene with Bobbie, Don, and Peggy in the car was classic, as was the scene with Pete and his wife. Fucking treats her like a child. I don't think there's anything deeper between Don and Peggy beyond his covering up her pregnancy for her perhaps. The meeting between her and Don in his office was interesting. He treated her like shit even after she saved his ass the night before and she specifically asked him that all she wanted was to not be treated like shit becasue she remindedhim of the incident. Don really is an asshole. It was interesting to hear Peggy call him Don instead of Mr. Draper for the first time, seemingly taking Bobbie's advice and treating him as an equal. Will she continue to follow Bobbie's lead and "be a woman"? I took this to mean using her feminine wiles or to not be so cold. Nice to see Rachel back as well if only fleetingly.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Peggy and Don Dynamic

    by OliviaFarts

    I agree with everyone else that the revealed dynamic between Peggy and Don is the most interesting relationship on the show. The two of them have each other's dirty little secrets under each other's rug. It was interesting in the previoulies that they showed Pete being a rat fink, then in the episode Peggy was shown to be discreet and in charge. That speaks volumes for how Don feels about everyone in the office, except Peggy. There is no way Don will willingly promote Pete, Cosgrove and the rest - maybe Sal - but look for Peggy to go very far with Don's help. Peggy is Don's protege and he clearly showed that in sticking up for her after he promoted her, after he found out about her pregnancy. He knows he's back the right horse. And Peggy can kind of find some relief in the fact that she doesn't have the burden of a secret and that Don won't nag her about it, like her family does. In a sense, I'm waiting for Don and Peggy to break from their families and be who they really are. Both are wearing masks, and both see behind each others. I love this new Don and Peggy dynamic, I frakkin' love it.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Was Don Really at Peggy's Bedside.

    by C.K. Lamoo

    Or did Peggy just imagine Don was there?

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Best line: "Title?! I'm KEN!"

    by HoboCode

    What a douche. Jane is ultrahot by the way.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    C.K. Lamoo

    by HoboCode

    I kind of thought the same thing too. She was kind of nutso.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    She didn't imagine him there ...

    by OliviaFarts

    ... Don hunted Peggy down because she didn't show up for work after he promoted her. She didn't imagine him. Its significant that we know about the ties that bind Peggy and Don, according to the writers of this show, obviously. It will come into play later on.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Is next week a new episode? I thought they

    by skimn

    were running a second season marathon in its place.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 11:55 a.m. CST

    AMC is running a contest where the winner

    by skimn

    gets a walk on role on Man Men..well slap my face and call me Shirley!

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    But maybe the "Ties" between them....

    by C.K. Lamoo

    are all in Peggy's deluded mind.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST

    I don't think this show is Lost.

    by OliviaFarts

    I don't think Peggy imagined Don at her bedside. Why would she? Yeah she was heavily medicated, but that doesn't mean she imagined Don. That's too fantasy/fairy-tale for this show. She is heavily indebted to Don. He kept her job open for 2 months. Of course Don has to know the reason for that. I'm not going to argue. I'll leave my opinion at that.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    My guess is that Peggy was suffering from...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...post-partem depression. Anybody else get that vibe? And I definitely don't believe Don's appearance was a product of her imagination. He was definitely there...and what he said to her rings true to them both.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST

    ... post-partem depression ...

    by OliviaFarts

    ... is a very good call. In those days it was simply dismissed as "the baby blues". Well, those high-charging hormones can really do a number on someone, make them completely irrational - sometimes women will kill their children. Its something they can't control. They can't, no matter how much you think they can. Well, Don and Peggy have each other now, in their own way.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Give Robin Veith a Peggy Spin-Off...

    by DanielKurland

    Easily the best episode of the season; perhaps the series. Peggy, Don, Betty, Pete, and Joan were written PERFECTLY here. "I don't feel anything", "Why can't Daddy eat salt?" "Because we love him" and so much more. I love how Pete just so matter of factly talks to everyone. Him talking to the doctor and just being blatently honest about himself was great. And it's great seeing how fucking methodical every little thing Peggy does is.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Peggy and Don

    by jmac4ever

    These two have the absolute best and most honest relationship on the show. Don's line, "You'll be SHOCKED how much it didn't happen," explains Peggy's nuanced behavior towards her current situation. She didn't come to this decision alone. She had the guidance of someone who knows a little about drastic life-changes. Don sees in Peggy someone who, like him, wants something more out of life regardless of the boundaries that society puts on us all. Don defied those boundaries when he stole his current identity and left his parents thinking he was dead. Peggy defied them when she decided to pursue her dream rather than play mommy. Don connects to Peggy in a way that is purely emotional and not at all sexual and that intrigues him and encourages him to use whatever knowledge he has to help her live her dream better than he's lived his. As far as I'm concerned, this is the most complex and important relationship on the show.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Word. God bless the seemingly built-in ambiguity of internet message board posts!

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    AshokO

    by garveysc82

    The Don/Dick mystery is solved. What else do you want them to do with that. Yes it was an interesting arc, but it's over and it's not like it just completely ended. It has left us with a rich characterization of Don, as well as Pete. And yet, it's not gone at all. Pete still has all of the information, and just because Cooper didn't care, it doesn't mean that it can't somehow be used against Don at the right moment in the future.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Post-partem depression ...

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    ... yeah and I'd imagine it's a bit more than that - after all, she did give the kid up (more or less; I'm not quite sure what that situation actually is).<p>Also, I for one am glad to see the obvious "who is Draper really?" mystery not make a major reappearance. It was done well, but seemed to exist the way it did mainly as a hook for less subtlety-minded viewers.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    BTW

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    This show should be more popular, and this TB more active.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    The Mystery ...

    by OliviaFarts

    ... is we know all we need to know about Dick Whitman. The mystery now is, how exactly did Don help Peggy? He let her have two months off. jmac4ever, I agree. Don and Peggy's dynamic is the most honest and interesting one on the show. They aren't using each other private information to topple each other (hello, Pete), in their own perverse way, they are helping each other. Goodbye Sterling Cooper. Hello Draper Olsen.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    So Don's staff is basically....

    by C.K. Lamoo

    three copywriters, an artist and a secretary?

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    not enough people know there's cool shows on AMC, and A&E

    by RokurGepta

    the lemmings are all watching celebrity survivor on CBS/ABC/FUX/NBC

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    The season 2 mystery...

    by Voice O. Reason

    ...is putting all the pieces of the missing year together. Obviously the biggest part of the is Peggy and Don.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 6:13 p.m. CST

    why are these brain-drooling neanderthals

    by Prossor

    saying the season sucks because there's no surprise reveal arc spelled out for them? i believe we're still in the early part of the season. if you cant wait for your cliffhangers i suggest watching something more fast paced, i hear Clone Wars is still in theaters.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Only 5 episodes in......relax people

    by RokurGepta

    The mystery is there, it's the Peggy/Don "situation" sit back and enjoy the show, forget about looking for something to hate, you'll be amazed at how much you didn't realize what was going on.........

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Thunderbolt

    by HoboCode

    Just be glad we have this TB at all. I begged for one all last season to no avail.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Agreed!

    by drbambee

    Voice O. Reason, Prossor, RokurGepta! People clamoring for a "mystery", as if this were some episode of Agatha Christie, are missing the genius of the show. Basically its slowly unraveling the hypocrisies of Post World War II America. Happy Days this is not! And as I recall from last season, it took a few episodes before it was revealed that there is a mystery to Don Draper, and even then it wasn't played out on a weekly basis. Its like MTV and all these "reality" shows have shot dramatic pacing in the foot. The great thing about TV is that plot and character can be fleshed out, as its so beautifully done here. Drink this show in like a fine wine. Don't swallow it like cheap tequila. But if someone wants their Agatha Christie, then here it is: Peggy and Don. Two years gone. What went on?

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 7:50 p.m. CST

    The book from the first episode.

    by HoboCode

    In light of this episode does anyone think the book Don mailed in the firstod might have been to Peggy?

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 7:52 p.m. CST

    This season is GREAT so far

    by PumpyMcAss

    The Three Sundays episode last week was flatout genius. Reminded me of some of my favorite episodes of The Sopranos. This week wasn't quite as stellar but it had plenty of great moemnts. Pete's sexual prowess discussion, Don's frankness with Bobbi before the accident, Betty's final line, the great Peggy/Don flashback. Shit, this is more than we've been "let in" to Don's life since when we found out how the identity switch went down. Fuck the childish haters, now that Generation Kill is over, what the fuck else you gonna watch?

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Brilliant! Probably the best episode yet!

    by MetalMickey

    Peggy kicks ass! Smoldering & intellectual, tonight's show was this season's "Pine Barrens".

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Thus far

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    The DNC is unwatchable. I don't know why I even put it on. I'm just posting this here for the sake of more hits to tha TB

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Also

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Don did reveal something about his past to Betty. I wonder if that's significant in the sense of what's to come.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:35 p.m. CST

    I mean

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Especially because the revelation was of something so negative ...

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 9:49 p.m. CST

    About the book.

    by drbambee

    It also crossed my mind that Don sent Peggy the book. I can't think of who else he would send it to, now that he's been 2 years out of touch with Rachel. Peggy sure does have lots of books in her apartment? And who helped her to get that apartment? I think that Don revealing that he wanted to murder his father for beating him is another chink in the armor that is Don. He couldn't get it up at Valentine's, he doesn't want to physically punish his children, he has high blood pressure ... Betty is slowly wrapping her fingers around his neck and he's going to suffocate more than ever.

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 10:12 p.m. CST

    A&E show I like...

    by RokurGepta

    The Cleaner starring Benjamin Bratt

  • Aug. 25, 2008, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Mysteries

    by CalamityJay

    Did anyone else notice that Peggy's sister was heavily pregnant in one of those flashbacks to the hospital? So, whose kid is it and, if it's not Peggy & Pete's, where is it? And Pete & Trudy can't conceive. It's all rather soap-y, but something is building here.

  • Aug. 26, 2008, 12:30 a.m. CST

    New vs HD

    by INWOsuxRED

    My cable company doesn't carry AMC HD, but does run HD Mad Men on HD OnDemand a day later. I like the advertising on the broadcast episode. But then again, the HD version just looks incredible. I'm starting to think I may have to watch both. AMC should be able to charge ten times what any similarly rated show does, as I actually sit and watch the commercials on Mad Men, which I generally don't do for any other show.

  • Aug. 26, 2008, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Book to Don's S1 artsy girl

    by Himbo

    Whatshername? Who else would a book of beat NY soho poetry remind Don of?

  • Aug. 26, 2008, 2:02 a.m. CST

    It's Beethoven!

    by Prossor

    anyone else laugh at that guy doing the symphony with his zipper? AWESOME!!!!! funniest part of the episode

  • Aug. 26, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    CalamityJay

    by HoboCode

    I bleieve they hqad kids at the same time because i nthe first or second episode Peggy went in to say goodbye to her kid and there was another one in there. They probably just said that her sister had twins to protect Peggy's rep.

  • Aug. 26, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Who did Don send the package to in the first ep?

    by Goon Bighead

    he wrote, "reminded me of you"? I figured it was either the bohemian chick or the Sally, but Sally showed up this week so I figure it's the bohemian chick

  • Aug. 26, 2008, 5:41 p.m. CST

    It was Mozart

    by OliviaFarts

    He played Mozart on his zipper. "Eine Kliene Nachtmusik" or in my better spelled English, "A Little Night Music". Sally is Don's daughter. Its up for grabs who the book went to, but I'm going to go with Peggy until someone flames me into changing my mind. Meditations in an Emergency: seems more for someone who's trying to forget she had a kid.

  • Aug. 27, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST

    The book

    by zer0cool2k2

    I'd always assumed Don sent the book to Midge, the bohemian chick. She seemed to me to be the one he came closest to giving a shit about. Although I think it's the idea of freedom and lack of responsibility that she represented that attracted Don. <p> What I can't figure out is why he seems to be developing actual feelings for Bobbi.

  • Aug. 27, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Bobbi

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Interesting question as to why Don may be developing feelings for her. Maybe he isn't: his mercenary side simply enjoys the company of a similar spirit. No strings attached. She's the very opposite of the Bohemian chick, too.

  • Aug. 27, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Midge/Bobbi

    by Goon Bighead

    I do hope we see Midge again this season. I don't think he's developing feelings for Bobbi. I think he's taking what's available at the moment while pining away for Midge.

  • Aug. 27, 2008, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Bobbi

    by zer0cool2k2

    After the cooch-grab, I didn't think don gave a damn about her, and pretty much figured he was done with her after using her to get his libido back on track. However, after he called up to check on her at Peggy's, he seemed to have actual concern. Maybe it was concern for Peggy, or just covering his own ass. <P> BTW, i don't think he was treating Peggy "like shit" in the meeting after the accident. I think he was being professional, and treating her as he would have anyone else who came in unprepared. Sure, he knew why she wasn't ready (after spending the night bailing him out of trouble), but he couldn't let on to the others, or show any favoritism. Looks like some shit is gonna' go down next week though.

  • Aug. 27, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    zer0cool2k2, I agree

    by OliviaFarts

    Don and Peggy have this quiet agreement that things need to stay the same, while knowing that those two have something between them, which was solidified when Peggy used Don's first name and he didn't correct her.

  • Aug. 27, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    First of all...

    by Rich Malone

    Not to judge anyone's opinion, but lets let go of this 'this season isn't as good as the first because there isn't a reveal similar to Don's true identity", complex. They were showing a piece of a character, but it's over. Now you understand a bit more about Don and his motivations. To expect the show to reveal something every season is to cheapen the Don 'mystery' reveal that they used ONCE in one ep of S1. Then, it becomes similar to how there's a mole on 24(which I love) every season, and who really wants that?! More and more I'm convinced that this show is the best written, designed, and acted show on T.V. Every time the camera catches Pete, you don't get if he's designing a lie in his head, or about to reveal his true feelings. The stillness and control of the actress that plays 'Peggy' is amazing. She conveys everything through her eye-contact and 'matter-of-factness'. She seemed shy and unconfident S1, but she a thinker and a reader of people. I assume that's why Don see's himself in her, since they share similar qualities, and she's someone he can't bullshit. Also good was Betty holding Don up to his initial fib about the 'high-blood pressure'. Now all of his meals will be bland, and he has to 'live his lie'. Like they say, 'one leads to another'. I love Joan telling the new girl to 'show off the goods slowly, so to speak. Who's gonna but the cow if they can get the milk for free? Was Jimmy Barrett putting Don on in the meeting?(Well, it seems that everyone got what they wanted), and telling Don(Donny) that he was a 'cool cat'? Was it because he knows that Don is a boozing, screwing, cheating, late-to-work, typical human like the rest of us? Matthew Weiner brought a lil Sopranos humor to Mad Men tonight with the Pete masturbation/Sterling playing with the paddle-ball gag, used just the same way they did with Vito and his lover were in bed about to have sex, and they showed Bobby's model train going into the tunnel. Great usage! I always dig the scenes btwn Joan and Sterling. He plays joe cool, and she's his equal that has his number(another Don/Peggy dynamic)...not sure if Sterling sees Joan as the wife he could've had, or the daughter he always wanted......not sure....... This is what real TV and film SHOULD be people......Get a drink or smoke a doobie if you have ADD and can't sit still and watch a drama for 47 minutes........ Someone told me that this reality TV craze confuses us into believing that that's what reality really is, and we begin acting similar in real life............I hope she was wrong