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SciFi Greenlights STARGATE: UNIVERSE!!
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A third live-action "Stargate" series, "Stargate: Universe," will launch early next year on the SciFi Channel.
According to James Hibberd's story for The Hollywood Reporter:
“Universe” introduces a team of explorers who find an ancient unmanned ship called the Destiny. Unable to return to Earth, the crew must fend for themselves aboard the ship, which has a preprogrammed mission taking them to the far reaches of the universe.
The channel's description:
After unlocking the mystery of the Stargate's ninth chevron, a team of explorers travels to an unmanned starship called the Destiny, launched by The Ancients at the height of their civilization as a grand experiment set in motion, but never completed.
What starts as a simple reconnaissance turns into a never ending mission, as the Stargate Universe crew discovers the ship is unable to return to Earth, and they must now fend for themselves aboard the Destiny.
The crew will travel to the far reaches of the universe, connecting with each of the previously launched Stargates, thus fulfilling the Destiny's original mission.
Challenges will arise though as the ship comes into range of Stargates placed centuries ahead of the Destiny, but only for a brief period of time before carrying on with its pre-programmed navigational schedule. If someone is left behind, there is no way to go back for them, adding to the drama of encountering new races, enemies and adventures.
A two-hour "Universe" movie will hit the channel in the first half of next year, followed by the series proper next summer.
"Stargate: SG-1" ended its regular run on SciFi last summer. The channel announced Thursday that spinoff "Stargate: Atlantis" would air its last regular episode in January.
Read all of The Hollywood Reporter’s story on the matter here.
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What starts as a simple reconnaissance turns into a never ending mission, as the Stargate Universe crew discovers the ship is unable to return to Earth, and they must now fend for themselves aboard the Destiny.
The crew will travel to the far reaches of the universe, connecting with each of the previously launched Stargates, thus fulfilling the Destiny's original mission.
Challenges will arise though as the ship comes into range of Stargates placed centuries ahead of the Destiny, but only for a brief period of time before carrying on with its pre-programmed navigational schedule. If someone is left behind, there is no way to go back for them, adding to the drama of encountering new races, enemies and adventures.
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Lost ship and fend for themselves... sounds like Voyager. Good thing they have a ZPM.
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Sounds lame.
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WTF? Lazy, AICN.
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i hope scott bakula is in it
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More old-hat crap from this tired franchise. Bring on Caprica!!!
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i give it 2 seasons...
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Billy sat next to Tammy on the shuttlecraft. He never notices me. Oh dear diary....what am I to do? They want a younger cast to draw a younger audience. Not better writing or improved special effects....hmmm
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Nobody ripped me off, no one ever saw it...I guess this is one of those stream of consciousness things...but how I wish I was able to get it out there, it seemed and inspired idea...and this was before or around the time of the original Stargate movie.
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lets hope they have a cute robot
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Wow, we're now resorting to ripping off Voyager. Damn, Atlantis was bad enough.
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. . . and I'm sure the characters will suck. Never see truly good character writing for this show, never watched enough to like. And, why the frak do they all speak English still? Where's my frickin' Babel Fish???
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uh, they are going to stargates, why cant they just go through one of them and head to atlantis. it's only 1 chevron away. not too much power. i've given this way too much thought then it deserves. whoops looks like a lot of people will be left behind to ramp up the excitment facto, as stargate loves chopping and changing their teams!
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I don't expect this one to last very long. Trust Sci-Fi to screw up every good property they get their hands on as they try to keep costs down. They've destroyed Farscape, SG1, BSG, and now Atlantis. They try to keep one hot property going just so it'll bring in viewers that they can then inundate with ads for their crappy monster movie of the week. Looks like Eureka will be the only thing worth watching, and it's kind of a take-it-or-leave-it show.
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And 2 hours ago, in the other SG forum) I was claiming this wasn't going to happen.
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I should never become a TV exec. Back when the Stargate feature was released I went with a friend and we thought is was an OK Saturday afternoon diversion... by Monday we were back in school and had pretty much forgotten about it. fast forward from 94 to 08 and we are on the cusp of yet another spin off?! Who knew this concept had such legs?
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Aug 22, 2008 1:12:08 AM CDT
So these guys are unoriginal shitheads with...
by stereotypical evil archer
an original series for Sci Fi.
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Stargate Leap, Lost In Stargate, Stargate Wars, Will and Stargate and Stargate in the City
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Aug 22, 2008 1:13:02 AM CDT
I suppose they'll find a lot of humans to co-star.
by stereotypical evil archer
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Absolutely terrible. And yes, exactly like Voyager.
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Who would've thunk?
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Aug 22, 2008 1:15:33 AM CDT
Ahh, Vancouver... looks like the edge of the universe.
by stereotypical evil archer
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First we complain that Stargate is ending, now we are upset that Stargate is back? Okay. I get the pattern. Wait, no I don't.
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Aug 22, 2008 1:17:02 AM CDT
Half naked green alien chicks with big boobs.
by stereotypical evil archer
If we're lucky.
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I don't care what anyone says, SG-1 kicks ass. Once I finish Season 10, I'm moving on to Atlantis, and I'm looking forward to the new one.
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Pilot directed by Mikey Bay.
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Aug 22, 2008 1:19:53 AM CDT
nascentia, way to steal my word "shitheads."
by stereotypical evil archer
Ever watch Rome? Now that KICKS ASS.
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Aug 22, 2008 1:22:31 AM CDT
Shitgate: SG-1, Oh I forgot Pierre Bernard is a fan.
by stereotypical evil archer
Recliner of Rage!
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is I've found the two spin off dvd's to SG1 and Atlantis wildly inconsistent and weaker than they should have been. To chuck them in the bin with the studio to say "Right, new setting cheaper new actors same franchise" and move forward when they should be focusing on the shit they're releasing in the here and now, it reeks of chucking the baby out with the bathwater.
I'm all for newly commissioned Sci-fi, but think this is just the Stargate leading to the land of ever diminishing returns. I hope I'm proved nicely wrong. -
Brad Wright and Rob Cooper need to be fired. If the best they can do is rehash Star Trek Voyager, all hope is lost. They are running the franchise into the ground.
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I love the concept, these guys know how to do the space exploration thing that Trek lost decades ago. I can't wait!!
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Seriously? I've never evn attempted to watch any of the shows so I have to ask before I start knocking it.
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and fucking "Firefly" gets canceled after a half season. There's no fucking justice in the world.
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Look at me not care. How many fucking stargates are scattered around the universe anyway? And how come every damn planet looks the same with all the trees, what, there are no palm trees in space?
Also, when is Stargate gonna get a hot chick? Sure Amanda Tapping and Tori Higginston are pretty, but they are no Andromeda or even Seven of Nine.
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...sure is getting a lot of flack from the geeks on this board (you know you are, as am I). Just because the elitist few who are here don't like it doesn't mean it's not awesome.
Stargate is a better series overall than Star Trek. Sg-1 was just as good as Deep Space Nine and NG and far and away better than Voyager, and Atlantis is better than SG-1. It may have lacked the budget of a bigger sci-fi series, but it had freaking McGuyver as its lead and then Browder and Black playing better roles and seemingly having more fun than they had on Farscape.
You might not like Stargate, but give it the respect it deserves. SG-1 was the longest running American science fiction show for a reason, and it wasn't because of Joe Public. Atlantis is great, and I'm sure Universe will at least be good. -
Geez, SciFi sure picked up on one of NBC's less innovative practices.
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I hated Ark of Truth but loved Continuum. Weird. I hope Universe is better than Atlantis though. There are two watchable characters on that one.
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Ok first off I would be very suprised if Sci-Fi didn't have some contractual obligation to keep some kind of Stargate on the air given the MMORPG is coming out.
I mean would you invest and spend years developing one and risk the show being off the air when it came out? Theres a reason nobody makes Star Trek games anymore...
As for this incarnation.. its derivitive as hell, but hey thats the Genre. Yeah its sounds like Voyager and yeah it sounds like Sliders, but those shows had good concepts that were just very badly executed.
If the producers get down with their derivitive selves. Take a page from lost... kill people.. leave people behind... Heck if 1/3 the cast from the pilot isn't dead or abandoned by the end of the first season I'll stop watching.
Let them run out of bullets for those MP5's let them run out of medical supplies that their doctor knows how to use. Batteries for those Radios? Force them to make do. make the prop department work overtime with endlessly changing jury-rigged stuff. Make it a running theme.
That should have been the heart of Voyager.
Even Galactica eventually began to gloss over that. Lots of clean clothes and tobacco...
So my expectation is that its going to suck, and suck badly, but it doesn't mean it has to. If they have the guts to stick with the rules of their premise they might actually produce a watchable show. -
If SciFi INSISTS on having a Stargate series, why not stick with the tried-and-true of Atlantis? It's got a proven track record, a good cast, decent writers...why not keep it around? Oh, that's right...it's SciFi, too stupid to keep their good programming around for more than a few years. Always gotta have something NEW, something FRESH, something FLY...something that SUCKS, but is CHEAP!! They should have kept Dresden, and before that kept Farscape and I-Man. Hell, going WAY back, I even liked G vs. E. I was probably the only one, though. Wow, that takes me back a ways. Geez.
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Much better way to continue the franchise www {dot} bigfinish {dot} com.
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totally agree dude.
when Voyager launched I was thinking about how cool it would be to see a federation ship covered with scavenged alien tech with no starbase for repairs or re-fit...
and for one episode it finally happened when Seven Borged Voyager up...
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While the premise allows them to play with some concepts like "Zomg, what would they do if the Airforce or IOA wasn't there 24/7 to tell them what to do", it also severely limits their ability to tie into the old show. I mean, how could you do a cameo? Gilligan's Island style? "Oh shit, somehow this planet has Rodney and Carter on it! They're trying to rescue us. Oops, they got to go back to Earth and we failed to do so!". Much like Voyager, I'm sure they'll run across familiar stuff, but with a twist or something. A system lord that somehow ended up out there, some pre-genetic modification Asgard, some replicators that are good guys, etc.
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So first I was sad when I heard the news about Atlantis. Then I was happy when I heard the news about Universe. Now I'm sad again after hearing the details about Universe. Damn you skiffy... my heart can only take so much.
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Rumour has it that Amanda Tapping (Sam Carter) and Paul McGillion (Dr Carson Beckett) are already all but signed for the new spinoff, and that there has been strong talks with Michael Shanks (Daniel Jackson), David Nykyl (Radek Zalenka) and possibly feelers put out to David Hewlett (Rodney McKay) as well, although the problem with Hewlett is that they still talking about doing regular Atlantis movies, so they don't want to dip too hard into the main Atlantis cast for that reason. The plan is for the show to have a bigger than normal (for Stargate) cast though, more along the lines of a Trek crew, including a strong mix of familiar faces, and yes, they will be picking up a new T'ealc/Ronan/Teyla/Vala type character in their travels as well. Or so I've heard. Personally, while Stargate has never been the best thing ever, it's enjoyable enough popcorn hokum, so I'm sure I'll watch this just like I did the previous two shows. You know, unless this is Voyager levels of horrible...
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or there is no way I will watch that crap.
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Now I read the press release that says they want to fill the cast out with "fresh faces" to appeal to a "younger audience"...hmmm. Doesn'y line up with the mixed cast of familiar faces and new ones that I was told they were looking at. Be interesting to see how this shakes out...
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After ripping on Sci-Fi the other day for appearing not to care about creating new SF series I won't complain about a new SG show.
I could even make a smart ass comment about Stargate: Voyager, but I won't.
I will suggest that the producers and writers for this new show take a look back at Star Trek: Voyager and learn from that shows stumbles when dealing with premise of being lost in the middle of uncharted space. Limited number of crew and equipment, turning your back on all established good and bad guys from your old series, just to name a couple of things.
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and I love that all your Trekkie cunts hate it even more. *bliss*
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when some shitty Roland Emmerich movie gets three different TV spin-offs? When is the Universal Soldier TV series coming?
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so they cancel atlantis and say "dont worry, the universe will continue in some form", only to create a new series? yeah that makes complete sense.
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Last week it was 19.99... this week you're getting hosed again...
...or you could walk into any one of your local dealers and purchase it for the previously stated 20 bucks...
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could not care what that shitty channel does anymore. put infomercials on for 24/7 and call it "international commercial hunters." seriously. i could not give a fuck.
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looking forward to CSI:Fresno.
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dont even joke about that. or they might get ideas to make a CSI:Sci-FI
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...Farscape? Are there going to be cheap knockoff muppets? Stargay... good one banzai! Ghost World's new tagline: "efore Scarlett Johansson was one of the beautiful people, she was just a dumpy punk chick playing second banana to that actress who sort of looks like a better-looking Kelly Osbourne."
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As I said yesterday, Sci Fi wants a Stargate show with no name actors who they can pay 10 cents. By sending this ship away from Stargate Command, they don't even have to have a guest spot by Michael Shanks. Plus they can probably use just about any set they can find each week. Stargate: Cheap Channel coming soon!
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Isn't that an old title? Hey, maybe they'll hire some NEW writers with ORIGINAL and/or FRESH ideas.......but being its produced for/by the SciFi/SG universe it's very doubtful.
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Shit channel
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“We’ve had great success with ‘Enterprise’ repeats on Monday night, and there’s clearly an appetite for space opera as ‘Battlestar’ goes away,” Sci Fi president Dave Howe said. So.....that explains why you cancelled both Enterprise and Battlestar Galactica then.
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Apparently the budget for the new show is larger than that of either Atlantis or even the latter seasons of SG-1 (a show that was ultimately cancelled because it was getting too expensive for sci-fi's tastes), in fact the bigger budget demands of the new show is part of the trade to kill off Atlantis. Strange but true. Now of course where the majority of that money ends up, well let's just say I doubt the producers will be crying broke any time soon...
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One of the stargates should go there.
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I've seen every episode of SG-1 and Atlantis, and I will say that this sounds stupid. I'm pretty much not interested in this at all.
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Wow, enough with the Stargates Why not just change Sci Fi's name to the Stargate Channel?
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Voyager and stop whenever they want to. The 'Destiny' cannot. Whatever they encounter for each Stargate they have to sort quickly or not get a ride out of there.Sounds pretty tense. And I love the SG mythology of 'seeding' another galaxy with stargates.
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What was wrong with Atlantis? Good ratings, established show, why cancel it? It could easily go onto Season 8.
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Gerry Anderson should sue. Fuck Stargate - give me Space 2099!
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Lolz.
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Wake me when they do a prequel to equate Enterprise.
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...Buck Rogers where suddenly he was on a wandering starship exploring Planet Cheapset every week with Different-Voice Twikki and Dr. Erector-Set-Robot. They actually had an instrument panel on the ship that was made from a recycled Boggle game. As cheap as you could possibly imagine, even for the 80's. Only good thing was the anime-esque miniskirted sailor suit uniforms the female crewmembers all wore... paired with 80's style high-heeled disco boots, of course.
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.. as it is coming to Earth. Actually they could throw out a line and get towed back.
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who said Atlantis was being cancelled?
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Could someone please start up a new cable channel that airs '60s STAR TREK, DOCTOR WHO (both classic and modern versions, with the 1996 TV Movie thrown in), QUANTUM LEAP, BUCK ROGERS, THE GREATEST AMERICAN HERO, BABYLON 5, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA (both classic and modern versions), SPACE: 1999 and FARSCAPE? You know, a channel people would actually watch.
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...if she ain't in it, I ain't watchin...
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There is waaaaaaaaaaay better TV than this. Or just watch paint dry. Now that's exciting!!!!
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In ne of Harlan Ellison's books he tells the story of being handed comic books by a TV exec and being told to get develop scripts for a movie. When he explained that it would be plagarism, he was told by TV exec that no, "It's just ideas".
Universe looks like they took everything ever used in a Science Fiction series (especially Trek) and used their "ideas" to mishmosh a TV series. -
I prefer the movie version to the scfi channel knock off!
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This doesn't sound that great.
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As previously noted, is this not just "Stargate: Voyager?" And we all know how "great" that series was.
Kill one series today, spin out another one tomorrow - does *anybody* at SciFi see what they are doing? How little respect they have for science fiction?
Even looking at the mediocre Stargate world, they need to take a break from the series and not go back to it until they have a good idea. I enjoyed the first half of "Stargate." It was never great, but it had its moments, had some charm, and did have an interesting premise.
It definitely ween on too long, though, and then Atlantis had no point. Gee, a city in the water? To this day, I don't know what the point of the wraith was. And the new idea is just people in space trying to get home? With the weekly wacky adventure? And let me guess, every week they are about to get home...ohhhhh...until something bad happens at the end? Or they have to do the "right" thing of not going home so they can save the current wacky, weekly planet/universe?
Booorrrriinnngggg.
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hhmmmm yeah. anyway, this is definitely made to tie in with the upcoming Stargate MMO.
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Skanky looking women, check, cheapo special effects, check, OK, let's greenlight this!
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I'm a Science fiction fan, ok? I enjoyed SG1, a lot. For a show on 10 seasons it the consistency of the quality was pretty amazing, and way above ANY of the Treks. SGA was enjoyable. I'm sure SGU with have a lot to offer. I'll be looking forward to the dvd's since I don't watch cable or broadcast tv.
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Voyager didn't invent the idea of being lost in space. There had to be at least 1999 space shows with people sliding around uncontrollably from place to place...That being said, it sounds like they are trying to "sex it up" when they include phrases like, "breaking new ground in the relationships between mostly young and desperate explorers" in their press release.
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...a Stargate show with no Stargate? I thought the whole premise was you didn't need a ship to travel through the universe.
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It's a premise mash-up no one asked for, starring people from other failed sci-fi shows no one wants to see again.
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Keep on rattling off shitbag Stargate shows, meanwhile Firefly is treated like a retard at a picnic. Wait, my metaphors need work this morning. Haven't had my coffee yet.
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Another lost in space sci-fi show? What's the point, to keep the franchise going with lesser paid actors on a smaller budget? Oh, I just answered my own question.
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WHY WON'T YOU DIE, STARGATE! For God's sake just bring back Farscape! Instead we have to endure more years of actors parading around the Canadian backwoods and pretending its outer space...
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Done on the cheap more like B5 than Star Trek. When people walk around a space ship and their footsteps sound like they are walking on concrete because it's a TV set kind of breaks the feel of the show. This is just one minor thing of low production values on this series. Bad production values, terrible C level actors, and poorly conceived stories make anything Stargate not on my TeVo to do list
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I always wanted to see more of t'ealc's son. He was established as a great warrior, and he seemed like a promising young actor. I always hoped they would being him to Earth and put him in the Air Force Academy. Kind of a student exchange program.
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I can't wait!!! I say keep Stargate going forever!!
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That concept kind of intrigues me.
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Nick Tate can star in it. It can be set 30 years after the series with about twenty survivors barely hanging on and Alpha a bombed-out wreck. Also, Amanda Tapping needs to nude up soon. The clock is ticking, Amanda.
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And I keep falling asleep. Really. I'll give it another try, but for all the sound and fury I'm surprised at how bland it is. Shepherd is the only sort of interesting character, and they write him EXACTLY like Jack O'neill. I wish they'd take some chances, write some bigger.
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Atlantis was originally supposed to be folks stranded off in another galaxy with no way back, no resource to fall back on, and a whole new series of worlds to explore. The writers/producers can't resist navel-gazing on their own continuity: within a year or two they'll figure a way to gate back to Earth and have every previous actor they can sign on to gate in every 3-4 episodes. Also, what drama? "Oh no, redshirt #2 didn't get back to the ship in time: guess we'll never see him again." It'll make a nice clicking countdown timer a couple of times, but even then we know it's not like the regulars are going to get stranded. Unless an actor is leaving the show for good.
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...Really..does anyone put an ounce of thought into these shows?
Why would an advanced race build a ship that has no way to return or even stop? Why, if it is a automated survey ship, does it even have a place for living organisms to live..are we supposed to believe some advanced race was incapable of creating a space surveyor that was completely automated. I mean for Flying Fucking Sake...make Sci-Fi that is more than just a tossed off premise...put some thought into it. -
...which is saying something.
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The entire idea of a "Stargate"(Singular) is also friggin dumb. You have ONE Stargate per planet? Why only One? If this is the accepted means of interstellar travel for a civilization made up of, one would expect, millions or billions of people...wouldn't ya want more than ONE fucking portal? Can you imaging the wait of you had to fly from New York to Los Angeles and there was only ONE airplane avaiable to service EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE ROUTE? It just makes no God Damned sense.
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"parading around the Canadian backwoods and pretending its outer space..." Made me spit up a Cheez-It.
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it's such a shame to me that a once great series ends like this. SG1 was quite good until almost the end. atlantis had potential but never really lived up to it. but this sounds bad even from this point.
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No No No - you do not improve your franchise by turning into STAR TREK!!! I like Stargate, but this doesn't seem like a good idea to me...
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It must be a reboot of the old Nickelodeon sci-fi kid's show, that was written by Peter David and Bill Mumy! And talk about synchronicity... Jewel Stait was in the original show, also.
http://tiny.cc/K3LVx
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I seem to remember during the Atlantis Panel at comic con that a fan directly asked the Lady from Sci Fi if Atlantis would still continue if the new Stargate Series was greenlit - she said something about there being enough room for both I think(anyone else remember this?) - it seems to me that in a sense Atlantis hasn't been cancelled, it's just being folded into this new show.
That being said - they could possibly pull it off. I liked what they did with SG1.
Oh, and to all those who complain that planets on Stargate look like backwoods Canada - have you guys ever watched Battlestar Galactica? All planets on BSG look like British Columbia, just like Stargate, because they are all filmed there. Kind of like how location shooting for most US shows looks just like California. TV shows do not generally have much for location budgets - although the last Stargate DVD movie was on location in the Artic circle with a real submarine, but I guess nobody cares about that. -
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The funniest part of your episode guide is the fact that most of the shows WILL follow your formula. I can't wait to see Richard Dean Anderson again!
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To quote another scifi geek fest, "I've got a bad feeling about this."
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Sounds like this idea has been done before. Hope they can make it work, Atlantis hasn't been very successful and I doesn't seem like the writters know what to do with this show. There's currently no real story arc.
But if this one does work out, how about this. A SG team discovers an Anchient device, and they soon discover it allows one memeber of the team to travel back in time at any given point of his life, within his own body. But the machine malfunctions and the team member, lets call him Beckett keeps jumping from moment to moment in his life, hoping the next leap will be the leap home. -
I'm still waiting for Fincher to make that film, darnit.
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Show it on Saturday mornings. That would rock.
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you all know stargate rocks so why bash it now? just because it got canceled even though the ratings were high. find something else to bash fuckheads; because stargate already proved itself as a long lasting show that triumphs over any other sci fi out there even better than that 'current issues dead serious' show that everyone likes for no reason.
i think they fucked up canceling a show like that when they still got a lot of stories to tell for it and im not sure what stargate universe is but it sure sounds exciting. the worst part is that we wont see shepard or mckay again, i love these characters and how they are portrayed so it sucks not watching them again. the other thing that scares me about SGU is that the producers are making it abit non-stargatish, they want something totally different that appeals to a broader audience, something more like BSG, which is a scary thought. because i want it to stay more like SG_1 and ATLANTIS there is not point changing something that cool. -
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I was skeptical when SGA came out, but it's grown on me. The last 2 seasons, I think MGM was trying to shake things up. First by bringing Amanda Tapping, and then this year bringing Robert Picardo, trying to rev things up for the show. The problem is that the episodes rehash alot. So the thinking I believe is to have a ship be able to travel through the SG Universe that they've created. Two things that irk me a bit about spaceship shows.
1.Every single planet they're on, the inhabitants speak english. so no new language(though i would say that would be hard? or not? to create a language a la Klingon)
2. The inhabitants also tend to look very human, being bipedal.
3. It's rare for them to meet a non-air breathing race.
Also, I believe Amanda Tapping is signed on for Sanctuary, so I can't believe that she would be in both shows.
I would also prefer a whole new cast anyhow, maybe you could throw in a fav actor here or there, but really. I prefer a mix. It would be cool to have one of Thor's people on the ship as an actual participant rather than just 'oh there u are'
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If they are literally travelling in the Universe, not the Galaxy it seems like it would be impossible to ever have recurring characters, or an serious enemy. Given how many galaxies there are, the odds of visiting the same one twice should be impossible. I never liked that idea that the Wraith feed on the entire pegasus galaxy. I mean come on, there are trillions of possible planets. They should have come across other civilizations who had never heard of the wraith.
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If it has already been said then I'm sorry.
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hey Fincher...make the freakin' movie already.
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they all committed mass suicide remember? no more asgards they are all gone. i would like mckay to join SGU why not i think they need him. im not sure if i want new blood.
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You can't stop the signal.....
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Teal'c with hair? thats what upset u? wow how superficial. i actually like him with hair it showed that he adjusted and became part of SG1.
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They'll probably still speak english, as it's simply a time-saving consideration due to the constraints of the TV format. Do you really want them wasting 1/2 an episode learning a new language every week? A movie can do that since they can spare the time. Tv has to come up with some kind of "the ancients seeded the language somehow" explaination and just move past details like that so they can focus on the characters, story and action.
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SciFi have found their Berman and Braga! Good luck to them - poor fools... poor RICH fools...
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Episode Eight: "Near-death Experience Hallucaination"
Sample dialogue: "Oh no, I'm trapped in a hermetically sealed room, running out of oxygen, and no way to contact the rest of the crew! Hopefully, my imaginary friend Teal'c will tell me what I need to do!"
Seriously, they've done that at least three times. (Not with Teal'c... yet.) I'm a loyal fan of all the Stargates, but I can laugh at it too. -
David Hewlett's performance is by far the best thing about SGA, and they would be mad not to have him on SGU. If he's on board then sign me up, haters!
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You know, I thought Painkiller Jane and Flash Gordon were as low as Sci-Fi could go. Now they're ripping off Voyager. Sigh.
And I actually enjoy Atlantis, too... -
It is funny to read some comments on here from people complaining about how the shows changed over time and they actually made some advances with the technology they recovered. "OMGWTFbbq teh show isn't exactly the same as it was when it started!!!"
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I'll go with CSI
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Aug 22, 2008 9:49:00 PM CDT
Stargate: B.C. The British Columbia Prequel Sequel
by stereotypical evil archer
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Aug 22, 2008 10:13:04 PM CDT
Here we go again . . . No greenlight without remake/spinoff link
by kabong
They could make this series without the "Stargate" content.
D-O S-O-M-E-T-H-I-N-G O-R-I-G-I-N-A-L.
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they can do its possible the problem is hell problem miss out on the Atlantis movies. so its either mckay in Atlantis or stuck on destiny in SGU; poor guy hes always trapped somewhere which is why its perfect for him, hes the john mcClain of stargate.
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It's pure irony that behind some of the best television of our time there are studio execs who haven't got a fracking clue what makes a successful show in the eyes of a viewer.
Stargate SG1 had a 200th parody episode where it poked fun at itself and some of the industries tendencies towards sci-fi...and now we got a third Stargate series coming fast and I can't get the "young SG1 clip' from that parody episode out of my head.
They try to explain it away - "It's hip and fresh and will bring a breath of fresh air to the series"...but all I hear is the studio exec doublespeak - "How do we squeeze more money out of this series? We need to market it to younger viewers...that will open the door to new toy lines, cereal box promotions, etc...so we will need a hot young cast of 90210's to fill the show out."
Why must the movie/television industry re-invent every flipping show from past eras with "hip young new casts". My god, it's stuff like the new "The Fog" remake that are ruining the credibility of the industry. Why must every new show come out where we have to believe there is this magical place where adults don't exist? There's 20-something actors everywhere and no one over the age of 25...its pure marketing crap - the belief that the more teen angst and hot bodies we pack into a 42 minute episode the better ratings it will get.
If there is anyone at all connected with Stargate Universe reading my rant just take away this one idea - successful sci-fi is successful because it is intelligent. It takes a step above a regular television episode and does not pander to industry sleaze, sexism, violence and exploitation. It assumes a certain level of intelligence in it's viewer and challenges them with ideas, not images. Go back to the SG1 200th episode parody special...watch all the parody clips very well...and don't use them as a basis for a new show. Be creative, come up with a new idea, and do it the way the fans would want it - not to how it is being dictated to you by a studio who only sees dollar signs on the script.
Please lose the whole "younger audience" angle...younger viewers have a notoriously low attention span. You may just be sacrificing the future of this great series to make a quick buck in your first year and see it fail when you audience moves onto the next "must see" show.
The industry has changed over the last 10 years...it has become a more unstable setting than before and studios are less inclined to keep a series on screen too long and chance ratings going down. The new formula is 1) Create new show, 2) Open said show with big glitzy big bang opening to grab viewers attention (I sympathize Mr Whedon), 3) Dump all your good ideas into the viewers lap to try to keep that "high note" through the first season, 4) Repeat maybe for 1 or 2 seasons, 5) Market the DVD box set for first season or two 6) Once we've made some coin off the DVD sales cancel said show 7) Green-light a newer better show, 8) Rinse and repeat.
The future of television is bleak indeed if the above formula is followed. When you cancel a show at the height of it's popularity, you burn the viewing audience. Burn the audience enough and they stop watching the new shows because they don't want to start giving a damn to only have it yanked out from under them.
My advice. If Stargate Universe isn't going to live up the standards that it's parent series' did...then perhaps it's time to shelf the series. I'm willing to give it a chance though, but if it sucks as much as I think it's going to by what been said so far I will have lost any hope for this industry's future.
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bad series are made when creativity is tossed aside and they start looking at the show as a product nothing more. SGU sounds like a 'trendy' product meant to capture mainstream audiences but abandons everything that stargate is about. i will watch it no matter what though but i might be disappointed because stargate series was the only thing on TV that i ever truly cared about because of how different it is and how it didnt cave in to whats trendy at the time. but i can see it now SGU will have a young cast full of blonde models romancing their way through each episode, a couple of sex scenes here and there, and the unexpected death of many characters. they could trivialize the show. lets hope that doesnt happen, but im really scared now. the idea of them canceling a good show in order to replace it with a lesser quality one is a scary thought.
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1. If there will be a large cast,(a la Star Trek) half of them should be characters from both SG1 and Atlantis. (McKay, Carter, Beckett, Vala, Mitchell) If they do that, I"m sure we could put up with the other half being 90210s. B. They have to use the stargate. What would be the point of calling it "Stargate Universe"? As for making more DTV Stargate movies, both SG1 and Atlantis, those movies could be set before the third series. I rest my case.
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the "1." and "B." thing was a little joke.
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as for the comments that atlantis has no plot arcs, u obviously have not been watching...stargate sg1 and atlantis have had the best special effects of any sci-fi show on TV...and if anyone mentions "dr.who cares" ill smack u...u have to be blind and nearsighted to think that there is even a comparison.... im glad that they are letting atlantis go off the air before the ratings do start slipping...sg1 did seem to be milkin the years towards the end..let the show go off the air while its still strong..dvd movies are fine.....universe should be really interesting ...and i concur with the above statements that mckay should be on the show....hes the second best character on the show right behind sheppard
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BUT:
Farscape > Stargate
Babylon 5 > Stargate
DS9 > Stargate
Firefly > Stargate
Doctor Who > Stargate (though not by much)
If that's 'elitist' so be it, I'm pretty sure the word elite means better anyway...so I'm not sure what's wrong with liking better programming.
Am I elitist for refusing to watch reality TV crap too? Ah shucks. -
Farscape and Firefly get axed, and this shit lives on? Weak.
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It was canceled. Season Five is the last.
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If you are even close to being right, I'll pull an enterprise, meaning I'll watch only the episodes that may sound good.
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Not at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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With *Doctor Who* pretty much on sabbatical for the next year while they retool for moving to HD and having Steven "The Moff" Moffat produce the show, I guess that left SciFi little choice on what to greenlight. Well, that and *BSG* ending. Speaking of, did anyone notice how many times *Doctor Who* got name-dropped on this week's episode (which involved a time loop) of *Eureka*? How nice of them to do that. Plus, its the second genre show that the actor - who did the name dropping - was connected to a *Doctor Who* reference...the first time being when he was on *Supernatural* as the conspiracy theorist who thought a killer robot was robbing banks.
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"That's World Health Organization." "I knew that!"
Thanks for the tip, lynxpro. I've never seen Eureka before, so this time loop episode was a great one to start off with.
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The show that just won't die. I think it's always sucked. It's just so boring. And an ancient race just can't figure out to make a weapon shorter and easier to use than a 10 ft. long staff?! Lame.
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It's been awhile! I know that Christopher Eccleston didn't make the cut as The Joker...so what did you think? (Though I don't expect a response since this thread seems to have died yesterday)
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They do have shorter and easier to use weapons than the staff, like the ZAT gun and hand-ribbon device. But as far as the staff weapons go, the show addresses that to a degree- there's an episode where SG-1 is helping equip Jaffa rebels who feel P-90's are less effective weapons, so they demonstrate that the staff weapon is meant to be more a weapon of terror and intimidation, but compared to the P-90, it's not as accurate or deadly. The Staff does lend itself better to melee combat, however. Also keep in mind that the Goa'uld rarely ever have to face a technologically advanced foe, so a staff weapon's intimidation factor and accuracy is more than sufficient to enslave more primitive peoples, while giving the Jaffa melee combat options when Goa'uld forces fight anmongst one anopther (likely to the amusement of the respective system lords in charge).
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I love All things STARGATE (period!)
You guys can go and suck a ZPM. -
Stargate ain't great, but it's fun. Atlantis had plenty of good episodes and while this new series might be using the Voyager concept, it's not such a bad concept. Most SciFi channel shows are of lower quality (except for Farscape of course, sorry BSG never got there) so I adjust my expectations accordingly and I'll enjoy it for what it is.
They need to pay special attention to casting and that's what prevented Atlantis from getting off the ground. They did good with McKay, but I think that most people can agree that Teyla is one of the worst character in all of fiction. One of the most poorly acted as well. She must have been blowing someone to be (practically) the only one who avoided being kicked off the show. In fact, if she gets carried over, I won't watch the new show (which is stupidly named btw). Vala also turned out to be pretty entertaining on SG1. But the "commander" will be a tough one. They have to stop trying to cheaply clone O'Neil's character and come up with something new already. And although I once really loved Sam, she really bores the shit out of me these days, so move on there. -
Darkseid always called it a stargate back on the old DC cartoons, and I always thought that was a cooler name than Boom Tube. In fact I thought, as a child, that Stargate sounded like a good name for something, but I had no idea where such a titular gate would lead. If only I knew it would lead to all this blandness!!! I'm sorry, but I'm comfortable with Stargate ending completely as a franchise. Yeah I'd like space shows on Sci-Fi channel, but this franchise is like half a step above Andromeda. That stuff like this gets 19 seasons and Firefly doesn't even get 19 episodes is a gross statement of what's wrong with TV. This new thing sounds like Star Trek: Voyager, and Farscape, and Sliders, and even the first season or two of Atlantis. I'd be disappointed if I didn't already think they were unimaginative.
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Stargate Atlantis seemed unfocused. What was their mission supposed to be?
At first they were stranded. Then ships could travel back and forth to Earth.
The Wraith were universally united, then split apart. The stuff about Micheal being a Wraith they 'cured' and made human...? Did that mean all Wraiths are former humans or what? -- never addressed.
They actually moved the city to another planet. What happened to the locals on the previous planet? Never addressed.
What was the mission? Find a way back? Did that. Defeat the Wraith? Made a lot of fairly uninteresting progress doing that? Defeat the replicators? Who cares about another recyled storyline?
The stuff with the replicators? Didn't SG1 have an episode that explained they were created by a child as a toy that got way out of hand? What the heck were they doing in another galaxy. Never addressed.
The show to frequently degenerated into likeable characters fumbling with technology. Again and again and .....
Stargate Atlantis R.I.P. You will be missed, but, you're passing is understandable and no real surprise. -
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