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Sci Fi Channel Permanently Submerges STARGATE ATLANTIS!! As A Series, At Least...
Merrick here...
STARGATE ATLANTIS looks to be wrapping its run as a series after its current (and now final) season. Plans are to continue the franchise via direct-to-DVD feature projects, a la its progenitor series STARGATE SG-1.
The current season, the series' fifth, will end in a cliffhanger that will be resolved on the first DVD project.
"We're excited to tell Atlantis stories on a bigger canvas,” Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper, co-creators of Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis and currently executive producers on Atlantis, said in a statement. “The successes of the two original Stargate [direct-to-video] movies The Ark of Truth and Continuum have shown us the opportunities that the movie format offers. We have plans for both SG-1 and Atlantis to remain vital as we expand the franchise."
...said series overlords Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper in a statement printed at multichanel.com. The same posting includes quotes from Thomas Vitale, Sci Fi Channel VP of Programing and original movies.
GateWorld indicates a more detailed statement from MGM should arrive at some point today. We'll update this article when that happens.
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this is OK, as long as the new direct to DVD stories are better than Continuum, which was pants.
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you can't replace 4 main characters and keep the momentum. sorry scifi, you've fucked up the only franchise you had. Wright & Cooper are becoming the berman and braga of stagate, leave guys, let the franchise continue with fresh blood and ideas instead of rehashing the same old stories.
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Aug 21, 2008 9:06:35 AM CDT
Nice way to circumvent a return to the Theater of the original S
by norm3
by Roland Emmerich & Dean Devlin. So the hijacking continues by Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper. These guys are going to milk this thing for everything its worth!
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Never could get into these shows. Don't know why, nothing I could ever put my finger on. Between SG1 and Atlantis they have what - 15 years of shows? Figure they have scrapped that buck of ideas and starting beating the horse with it at this point.
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the return of GvE and Mansqueto: The Series
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These series worked much better when they were TV programmes than they do in a TV movie format?
Although Atlantis lost its way a little the last series, it could have gotten back on track, what are Sci Fi gonna out on that gets more viewers? Nothing probably?
This is a popular series around the world, not just USA.
The Ark of Truth was an ok movie, but Continuum, was rubbish.
I wish they would just give them one season more once they know its canned, so that they can warp up the stories quickly but bettre than the everything happens in 2 hours TV movies they made for SG1.
Oh well, maybe Sci Fi are going the reality TV way like everyone else, there are hardly any good Sci Fi shows left on TV, they all seem to get canned now.
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I like the show, it wasn't something I would plan my week around like BSG, but it was a fun show.
So what does Sci-Fi have left now for original programming? BSG, which will end sometime next year and Eureka. I miss the old days when Sci-Fi was making an effort to put out at least one full night of new programing for fans of SF. -
I suppose five seasons isn't too shabby, but still. There aren't too many reasons to watch Sci-Fi these days, and they just got rid of one more. Never got into Eureka, and BSG is a part-time show at best. The best thing on Sci-Fi these days are the re-runs of old shows. Very sad.
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why they killed SG1 in the first place is a mystery, like nixing Angel after arguably the best season. I think a decade is probably about as long a show should run before it totally loses its appeal (eg: X files)Oh well, I can see Michael Shanks on Burn Notice if I want to. Nice to see him getting work.
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Aug 21, 2008 9:35:18 AM CDT
Bonnie Hammer and Mark Stern's destruction of Sci Fi channel com
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As usual, 2+2=7 on Sci Fi and anything the viewers want is canceled.
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Stargate gets cancelled and Eureka has its worst ever episode, not a great week for them, after the disaster that was flash gordon and BSG finishing they are really screwed.
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It's too bad, but this series has been treading water (sorry for the pun) for a couple seasons now.
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Stargate Atlantis; poor man's DS9. I never understood the appeal.
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I'm guessing they would have to put a gun to Patrick Stewart's head to get him back for a movie. Don't know about the others actors, I guess they could scape together enough of them from TNG, DS9, and Voyager to make something (Michael Dorn has got to eat).
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By killing its two largest franchises at the same time with no established show in place to retain viewership on Friday nights, we're going to see a couple hundred thousand nerds roaming the streets with nothing to do on Friday nights once BSG and SG:A are over. That's scarier than all the Bikers, Gangbangers, and Chuds that are out there now put together.
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So...why, exactly, would any science fiction fan want to watch this channel anymore? BSG is ending...Stargate is dead (it ran a good five years too long)...Atlantis (which always sucked) is finishing...etc. When I'm really bored or in a silly mood, I can watch Eureka, but it needs a fair amount of work to ever draw me to the channel. Will we just have daily movies about moths/alligators/ants/frogs going bad and attacking humanity? Whenever I watch those movies, I wonder if I have the SciFi channel wrong and it's actually an anti-science fiction propoganda channel...
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...when there was actually Sci FI on this channel...and was excited to see new things from them. So there's no longer any Stargate, Farscape, Flash Gordon, Dresden Files, and soon to be no more Battlestar Galactica. Hell, I couldn't even tell you if there's something new coming from them that might be exciting. Why? Because there's nothing on the station anymore worth watching that would cause me to inadvertently see a promo for any of their "shows." This isn't a channel for Sci Fi anymore. It's a channel for shitty movies that are ashamed to go directly to DVD and make Hammer Films blush at how bad they are. It's becoming the Sci Fi equivalent of TV Land...a repository where good shows from the past get repeated ad nauseum. Sigh.
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Yeah, that's what I've been thinking. And if it's tough to get all the cast back (I'd bet Patrick Stewart would want more money than the rest of the cast put together) do something with Captain Riker or do a TNG/DS9 and Voyager mashup with whoever you can get from each of those shows.
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Doctor Who.
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More room for ECW, cause that made sense for the Sci-Fi channel to start airing anyway. Watch them completely change formats after BSG ends. I think it's time for MGM to take their ball and go home. Pitch SGU to another network that'll be a little more competent and allow them to do what they want (Ronan's hair) and not make stupid and repeated changes to cast (Everyone but Sheppard, McKay and Teyla). Who is this new guy running Sci-Fi anyway? Seems like a complete idiot that doesn't understand how the world works now that we have DVRs. Either that or they couldn't figure out how to wedge Degree product placement into Atlantis.
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and FUCK Star Trek comparisons. They're two different shows. DS9 was depressing.
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They cancel anything good. I suspect Eureka will be next on the chopping block. But don't worry, more wrestling coming soon.
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The movie was good. Both series were utter crap; direct-to-basic-cable, syndicated pap-smear leavings.
SciFi is almost always disappointing. If they didn't have Battlestar Galactica, they could be confused with 1980s WGN easily.
Oh, yes, they play Doctor Who and Torchwood, but they put in adverts, cut the shows up, and screw up the pacing. I can't believe anyone watches those shows on SciFi, considering how fucked-up they are by the time SciFi is done with them. -
Jesus. The original movie was an abomination; why would anyone subject themselves to multiple series based on it for years? Geez, go watch MAD MEN or something, you uncultured fucks.
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I can live with Atlantis DVD Movies. It can only get better. But if they drop SG1 movies to do the Atlantis DVDs, I say screw that swimming spacetown! SG1 was, and still is much better.
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I can't watch those shows on SciFi, the way they are hacked to pieces for commercials. I find... alternate ways to see them.
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Despite several attempts to get into the STARGATE shows, they've never hooked me.
When I think of all the potentially awesome series based on comic books that Sci Fi could develop (GLOBAL FREQUENCY, PLANETARY, THE UMBRELLA ACADEMY, AMERICAN FLAGG, DOKTOR SLEEPLESS, THE DOOM PATROL, RIP HUNTER: TIME MASTER, etc.), it just annoys me to no end. If it wasn't for DOCTOR WHO and THE SARAH JANE ADVENTURES, I wouldn't even watch their shitty channel.
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Good guess, though.
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then i'm all for this.
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we finally get Jewel Stait on the show and back to work and they end the series.....SciFi would rather air the cheap to produce ghost hunters or ECW then give scifi fans a place to watch good programing...IDIOTS
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for movies about giant alligators and grasshopper swarms.
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needs more Snake vs Snake movies. and Ghost Hunters. and other shit I won't ever watch.
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I watched this series more out of obligation from SG1 than actually caring about it. I enjoyed it for what it was, but I knew it couldn't stand on its own. I hope they take some time and relaunch the franchise with a whole new spin.
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Aug 21, 2008 10:54:30 AM CDT
Stargate, the movie is OK, The rest bore me.
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I saw and absolutely hated the movie, just as I hate everything nowadays by Devlin and Emmerich. What I've seen of the show albeit a very small amount it seems just as corny and laughable.
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It has always sucked, now it is unwatchable. When it first came out I think we all expected good things, classic old sci-fi shows and movies, maybe a little sci-fi oriented horror, and quality new shows. But none of that happened, but for BSG and perhaps the Stargate stuff, instead ya get HORRIBLE made for SCI-FI movies....truely unwatchable, piss poor quality, bad CGI efforts. For FUCKS SAKE, they even had a rip off of the movie "Twister"...WHY WOULD YOU RIP OFF SOMETHING THAT IS BAD TO BEGIN WITH..THEN MAKE IT WORSE!!!!
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Wow, that's a weird typo there.
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Remember that the first few seasons were actually on Showtime, not commercial TV. Production values, acting and writing were superb. There were some incredible story arcs and I loved watching how the United States Air Force kept integrating the alien technology they discovered. In one episode, an actual space shuttle saved the day! That was brilliant! Also awesome was how Jack wanted to name every ship they managed to take possession of "Enterprise" but Sam always said no... That said, it did go on a bit too long, but it never got as bad as X-files did at the end. Atlantis was good solid entertainment, never spectacular, but always enjoyable. Only thing left to watch is Eureka now, and even my 13 year old son realized that it has become a deodorant commercial (A trend I hope hollywood will NOT continue). They should rename it the Horror Channel, as most of the movies they show are of that genre, not scifi at all.
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...getting too high for Sci-Fi? Now they can replace it with a show about a crew of morons hunting ghosts or bigfeet or whatever without ever actually finding anything. Or maybe they can remake Buck Rogers, but set the entire show in a suburban shopping mall in Vancouver. (All malss have that futuristical look to 'em... and it'll be cheap! We can add in CGI giant lizards.)
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... they should rename it The HorrIBLE Channel
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Dude, Sci-Fi used to be a pretty decent channel. They had good original programming, they had some pretty good TV shows, and on top of that they actually showed good movies, and on frequent occasions classic sci-fi/horror movies and tv shows. That was pretty cool. Sci-Fi Original movies started, which was alright I suppose, because most cable channels have their own films made, but damn dude, that's like ALL they give now. They just crank out all these retarded movies and for the most part have done away with all the older, classic films, as well as most theatrical films. In terms of TV shows, we've got all sort of dumbass reality TV shows, ECW Wrestling...note to sci-fi...WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOUR SCI-FI PROGRAMMING? sigh
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The Sci-Fi is leaving the Sci-Fi channel. It's a sad day.
I'm going to miss Atlantis. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me. I like the character development and interaction. It's just a "fun" show.
I think Sci-Fi was the best when it had "Sci-Fi Friday." Both Stargates AND FarScape on one night! Those were the days. I think they forgot they are a network catering to Sci-Fi fans. What's next? A "So you think you can dance" marathon???? -
... that claimed the Sci-Fi Channel was moving away from science fiction (as if it ever showed anything remotely comparable to science fiction in the first place. They want to "broaden their audience" by programming more shows geared toward a female demographic, such as reality shows, etc. Said they wouldn't change the name right now because people recognize it (Yeah... in order to avoid all the shit they program!). Whatever... program toward women... end up with a schedule full of shit. (Women have the absolute WORST taste in music, film, literature, everything else imaginable. Yeah... thank you, I am a misogynist!)
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I was a huge Stargate Atlantis fan, but seasons three and four I thought were awful. Season five has been ok so far but nothing compared to the first two. I figured I'd be sad hearing this news, but I'm not. I'm okay with the direct to DVD movies, I'm hoping with that format they'll tell better stories instead of whiping out lame stories to fit into the hour slot.
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Atlantis and SG1 had something sorely lacking in alot of scifi these days: a sense of humor. At comiccon Robert Picardo commented that going from Voyager to Stargate was kind of like being let out of prison - they are allowed to have fun on Stargate. I haven't really seen much outside of Wheedon's stuff that has had a good sense of humor about itself anymore, without being corny(although I'm sure everyone will enlighten me.). My favorite part of Atlantis are the Canadian in-jokes that they do with McKay - references to Participaction (a Canadian education fitness programme that every Canadian kid, including myself, had to put up with) Coles notes (our version of cliff notes). They even poked fun at CSIS. Stuff they didn't have to do but it was a bit of fun. The other stuff - that Robert Picardo's character's idea of changing into something more comfortable is to wear a suit; references to The Princess Bride, 42, amongst others. The fact that the wraith were a way more scary badguy than the Goa'uld. After all, you could sort of hide out as a slave in disguise with the Goa'uld - hiding out as humans near the wraith is kind if like a cow hiding out at a slaughterhouse. Biggest problem I had with the entire show is that Michael is not nearly as interesting a villian as the average wraith queen and his plot is dragging on wayyy too long...
What irks me is that at the Atlantis panel at comiccon San Diego there was a lady there from SciFi and she was asked directly about whether SciFi was behind Atlantis and would support it. She was very affirmative that they would support Atlantis and also the new show being developed(at least this is what I remembered - anyone else remeber that?) Hmmmm....
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According to this article in the LA Times the Dr. Who people are not that pleased with where the show is on the schedule and how it's treated. http://tinyurl.com/5krx9t I'm sure it's a negotiating ploy, but never misunderestimate the ability of Sci-fi to screw up a classic franchise.
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Worst series ever.
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Cuz they seem about as on-the-ball about their programming lately.
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The Stargate shows were abominations. Farscape 4life!!!
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Remember when Sci-Fi actually tried to get give us decent, original Sci-Fi Programming? Remember These?
First Wave, Farscape, Sightings & then they used to pick up shows that had potential (although they destroyed what was left of Sliders). Besides Eureka & BSG, I have zero reason to tune anymore, thanks Sci-Fi... -
You are totaly correct about a sense of humor. That is one reason I don't particulary like BSG as well. I don't think ther has been a single humorous event on that show. In wartime you need some humor. Just watch MASH!
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How could you expect to be taken seriously and make such an ignorant sweeping statement? You think all women like to hang out at the mall, shop and watch rom coms? You must know some lame women or have your head so far up your ass that decent women don't want anything to do with you. As a matter of fact, my favorite authors are Vince Flynn, Daniel Silva, Lee Child, Stephen Hunter (his "Point of Impact" was recently made into a movie called "Shooter", read the book) and David Morrell to name a few, look them up if you don't recognize them, collectively they write some pretty amazing spy/assassin thrillers. Lee Child's Reacher character will soon have his own movies... I heard the rights were sold to Universal I think. Maybe you prefer romance novels? Probably my favorite all time movie is Gladiator followed by The Matrix. Your news about the Sci-fi channel is troubling, but Sci-fi has been shitty for a long long time. I don't know where they get their scripts for their "Sci-Fi Original movies" but they suck, and that's being kind. They're poorly written and plotted freak-of-the-week shows. I actually quit being a sci-fi channel fan a while back when they cancelled Farscape, so it was no surprised when they screwed up The Dresden Files and so what do they air instead? Flash Gordon. That was a big 'WTF'? Did anyone watch that piece of crap? Sci-Fi is really missing the boat. As far as I know, the shows that look like they'll be decent sci-fi (Fringe, Dollhouse)are heading elsewhere. And don't lecture me about Battlestar Gallactica... bullshit soap opera in space. That's NOT sci-fi, it just happens to take place in a science-fiction background.
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SGA has always had a great cast, good character and dialog writing, but the plots and premises were stupid beyond belief.They kept proclaiming themselves as the "best and brightest", but each plot relied upon them doing the STOOOOOPIDEST possible things to get into a problem, and then being Genius Savants to get out of the problem by the end. I really wanted to like this show, and watched multiple seasons, hoping hoping hoping it would improve. It did not. So I gave up on it last year. A shame, too. So much potential squandered there.
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While I've stayed with SG:Atlantis for five years, it's more out of habit and the "bits," rather than the story arcs. The Wraith just never did it for me as a villain. The Goa'uld had an interesting concept, as much variety as all of Earth mythology, an alliance/in-fighting/political kind of setup, and enough of a human face that actors like Peter Williams and Cliff Simon could actually perform. The Wraith are scarier, but pale on all other fronts. Naturally, they tried to introduce a half-Wraith (see also Voyager and Seven of Nine the half-Borg). The humanform-Replicators didn't fare well, either. Without a decent villain, the series has kind of fallen into a mix of so-so Wraith stories and "disaster/disease of the week" stuff (Jewel gets possessed by a plant, McKay goes senile). Ronon and McKay are still interesting, and they've done some decent/humorous stuff (last year's alien princess bit). So it never really got worse... but it never got better, either.
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I think BSG has humor of a sort(favorite scene - the paper shortage dialog between Adama and Tigh) - I love BSG but I think they are two different shows. BSG is much more serious because it is a different subject matter - humanity has been nearly wiped out - I'm not even sure if MASH is a fair comparison as they were in a war but their homes still existed. Once you create a situation where the character's homes, home planets, almost everyone they knew is dead, it kind of makes it somewhat difficult to have alot of humor. I also think it's possible to like both shows as I do. I notice lots of posts about how 'Stargate sucks' etc. and it seems to be from people who haven't watched much of it. I actually avoided SG1 for years when I first heard of it because I just had a hard time with the idea of Macguyver being on the show. A friend(who ended up becoming my wife) re-introduced me to the show about 4 years after it started. Sometimes it takes a bit to get into a show. It took me over a year to like BSG as I was a big fan of the original and didn't like the re-imagining of it. Now I like the new one better. It seems to me that while we all complain about networks not giving shows a chance, we end up doing the same thing...
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Oh crap!!! Sorry about that!!!
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All these years and never watched a single Stargate episode. Looking forward to missing it on DVD. I don't care how many ex-Trek or Farscape refugees they hire. This franchise is crap.
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I say good riddance. I watched it and I didnt really take to it. Guess I'm spoiled by BDG and other better shows. Star Gate overall is kinda lame.
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...those terrible, shit eating original movies they put on.
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You have never watched a single Stargate episode but "this franchise is crap"?
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And its name is 'Charlie Jade'. Probably the best show you're not watching. Of course, nobody even knows it's on because SciFi gave it one unpromoted shot at Friday evenings, and then when it didn't do gangbuster ratings, exiled it to the coveted Monday morning 3:00 AM time slot. Presumably bumping a very-late-night infomercial about ginsu knives.
Charlie Jade is a joint Canadian/South African production and I promise you've never seen anything quite like it. So, to the "smart kids" in the room who think Skiffy has nothing worth watching besides the amazing-but-ending 'Battlestar', you might want to check out Charlie Jade. It's the kind of intelligent, adult science fiction we all say we want, but never watch when somebody takes a shot at it. The rest of you can go back to gushing about 'Eureka' - it apparently trounces BSG in the ratings. Can't say Skiffy doesn't give the masses what they want. *sigh* -
I personally have enjoyed most of SG-A. KaelOmont nailed it for me: Stargate the series have always had a certain sense of fun. They have never taken themselves too seriously.There's a scene at the start of season 4 or 5 of SG-1 where Richard Dean Anderson is talking to a new character while captured, essentially trying to reassure him by pointing out how things usually go and what the main bad guy of that episode is likely to be like, essentially making fun of their own writing.
That said, SG-A has had some great episodes, and some clunkers. But as much as I made a note to watch Season 5, it shows how little I tune into SciFi these days that I only realized a few days ago that the new season had started already! No big deal since, despite what many of you think, it is watched by many geeks and one of the faster things to bittorrent back episodes of. But SciFi has canceled or delayed so much, I have no idea what they run any more. Loved B5, Farscape, BSG, Enjoyed SG-1, sort of OK with modern Dr. Who (preferred the old stuff myself). Never liked Eureka, shut off the TV after 5 minutes of Flash Gordon out of embarrassment for the show. SciFi channel is pretty much done for me these days. A shame. -
No, I have never watched a complete episode. I know, "how can you judge a show that you've never fully seen, blah, blah, blah." The chunks I've tried to endure were just terrible. Even the commercials for the show looked idiotic. Suffering through hundreds of hours of shit to prove it is in fact shit is not quite logical, either. I'm sure the show has great fans who really dig it. Right on. People for some reason like Babylon 5, too. It's a wacky, wacky world we live in.
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Like that hot bodied girl that plays Teyla showing up naked on some DTV movie now that she's outta work. What a pig I am.
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Atlantis was occasionally better than most people give it credit for. The main problem they had is that most of the characters suck. Rodney was good and so was the doctor they killed off, but Teyla, Weir and Shepard (in that order) were horrible. I felt bad that they ever brought Sam on the show for that aborted stunt of a command. And Woolsey could have been alright, if they didn't change his character into such a pussy after making him a regular.
While never a great show, I will kind of miss SciFi Fridays. I'll unenthusiastically finish out BSG, but this announcement is like hearing that the SciFi channel itself is going away, because there will soon be no more reason to watch it. Odd, given that I'm a SciFi fan. I've been a fan of SciFi Fridays for over a decade now. They completely pissed it all away. And the people who've done it actually get rich for their efforts. Amazing. It's like watching what happened to HBO happen all over again. We'll soon be out of channels.
What pisses me off even more, is that I just heard an NPR story about what a genius Bonner Hammer is for making USA the top rated cable network. Of course, I never watch that channel, nor do I understand how she even has a job after completely trashing the SciFi channel. Apparently, she's a superstar for catering to wrestling fans. This country is so in the toilet right now.
Redshirt was right about renaming it the Horror Channel. I know people who love it just for that reason and that's fine for them. But the quicker they rename it, the quicker someone else can step in and make a real SciFi channel. Fuck, maybe they can even find a way to bring Farscape back. The best scifi show ever!!!
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At the very least they did shitcan 'Tell Me You Love Me' what has to be the worst show they ever put out and one they had hoped would appeal to the female audience and become the next BIG thing after Sopranos. I still can't believe they ditched fuckin 'John From Cincinnati' for that POS :( Adult Chick Flick of the Week Drama. Do you hear that SciFi stick to what you at the best of times are semi decent at(excluding BSG).As for SGA I actually like the show but agree 5 years is enough.... anyone know when the new show set in another, another Galaxy is expected to air????
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Um , thanks for the earlier correction, hadn't seen that before!
Yeah, MASH is supposed to be a comedy, so maybe that was a bad example. How about Generation Kill? In a shit situation someone will say something, or do something that just cracks everybody up. It's a human reaction to stress. I honestly don't remember once laughing during BSG it is just way too heavy. Serenity is another good example. Just about to be destroyed between the Reavers and the government "I am a leaf in the wind." "What does that mean?" Classic and totally appropriate if you think you are just about to die. -
I wanted a guy like Simon Baker to be Flash. He was a burnt out astronaut. It took place entirely on Mongo. It was like in Indiana Jones in space with a clifhanger every week in homage to the original show each week. They looked at me like I was a freak. They had no clue what to do with the show. So the guy from Charmed got the gig. Charmed! Tony Opticon (cool name, if he was a transformer) was totally f-ing clueless. He was head of creative...probably got his job at Sci-fi bcs of his last name. Stern and Hammer piss on sci-fi. They won't do a zombie series or a vampire series either. Instead they greenlite mow's about killer ants. All a bunch of clueles twats.
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I also like Babylon 5. Now. Not at first. I tried watching the pilot and part of the first season and gave up. Then a friend showed me some cooler later episodes and I started watching it from the beginning. Oddly enough I've leant my DVD set of B5 to several people, asking them to be patient with season 1, that things get very interesting in season 2, and every single person has ended up liking the show. I can understand someone not wanting to watch a show because it isn't their cup of tea, etc. but saying something is crap when you haven't watched even a few episodes seems a bit much. Also, I don't think commercials or promos for a show are necessarily a fair way to judge a show - most promos tend to be a bit over the top to get your attention. The B5 promos on the DVDs are painful to watch(and I LIKE the show) - so were many of the stargate ones.
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but says nothing about cancellation. The only mention of cancellation I have seen so far is the one on multichannel.com, and what they hell site is that anyway? Not saying it isn't true, I just think it's really odd how two sites now confirm the movies, but say nothing about cancellation of the series.
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Was it canceled to make room for some more terrible Sci-Fi produced TV movies like 'Snakehead Terror' and 'Flu Bird Horror'?
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Sci-Fi has a sister channel called "Chiller" that shows old horror movies, and they rerun the original "Kolchak: The Night Stalker" episodes, and old Alfred Hitchcock Presents.USA has been succesful because they run "Law and Order" on a loop, with some breaks for "Burn Notice."-----later-----m
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NBC ownership is was screwed it up. USA Network, also. Sci-Fi's probably gonna end up joining USA in showing Law and Order: SVU and CI nearly 24/7/365.
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I always say that.
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Why couldn't there have been an 11th season.
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classic BSG, Star Trek, Buck Rogers, Hulk, Hercules, Xena, and what the fuck ever else was cool in a subculture way.
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...whenever I'm in my car listening to Les Savy Fav and some chick exclaims "What's this crap?" and promptly switches over to some commercial pop station so she can hear a Rihanna song. Yeah... I'm just a misogynist. Whatever.
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Assholes.
I was just getting into it and enjoying the characters.
Apart from Teyla, she cannot act!
I blame the chick from Firefly - at comic-con she was asked what's better about this show than Firefly and she answered "this one didn't get cancelled!"
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Just like I laugh my ass off at THE SHIELD. There is plenty of humor in both. It's not like the characters are telling jokes - that almost never makes me laugh, anyway - instead, it's more like something unexpected happens or somebody makes a pointed observation out of nowhere and I just crack up. I laugh a lot harder during these dramas than I do during so-called comedies.
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come on. BSG is better than any sci-fi show, ever, in every single way imaginable.
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Now that they don't have Atlantis, Battlestar, and Who is going away for a year SciFi is in serious trouble. Watch for them to change their name to Sizzle or some other name of an Arena Football team and just air reruns of NBC shows all day long.
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and steal my book collection? A Reacher movie would kick unholy ass. I'm thinking The Rock he's one of the few people big enough to play him. And he could nail that character easily. This sucks about Atlantis. It Dr.Who and BSG are the only things to watch on Sci Fi. Which is becoming less and less Sci Fi. How sad is it that the traditionally non sci fi networks are have better genre fare?
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Once this and BSG are gone, the only thing worth watching on the network will be Eureka.
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Aug 21, 2008 3:28:53 PM CDT
I have found the perfect way to vent my Sci-Fi channel frustrati
by arcadiands
call the customer service dept of your cable company and complain about the quality of that channel. by the time they say, Sir we're not responsible for what shows they air and do not air for the 100th time, you can't help but laugh a little bit.
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Just to expand upn the Dr. Who situation. They are only doing 6 hours, not 13 hours worth of episodes next season, so Sci-fi will be stuck. Also with the growing success of BBC America, BBC may keep the show "in-house" and have the U.S. first-runs on BBC America by 2010.-----later----m
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Just to expand upn the Dr. Who situation. They are only doing 6 hours, not 13 hours worth of episodes next season, so Sci-fi will be stuck. Also with the growing success of BBC America, BBC may keep the show "in-house" and have the U.S. first-runs on BBC America by 2010.-----later----m
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And it had serious typos!! I really feel stupid now.--m
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The BBC went on the warpath at YouTube two weeks ago and purged every episode they could find and an awful lot of fan videos. I gather they are paving the way for BBC America to be the only source for Who.
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What we need is some good old ass kicking non-skank filled American Sci-Fi.
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is the totally false way they enforced all the non-earthers to speak in this fake non-contraction english. No one can say things like "i do not think i will be able to do that" verbatim while under fire without it sounding like sour goatshite.
Data made it sound good in the next gen but thats cause he was a bloody android! jolene blalock was rubbish because of it in enterprise and the Tela character remains the worst character ive ever watched on tv because of the way she has to speak. -
sci-fi is losing ground these days
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It's interesting, I met a guy who used to work for Sci-Fi Channel and he said they're moving away from Space Opera/set shows because they're too dark and lack the warmth of shows set on Earth like Eureka. I pointed out that Star Trek the Next Generation was plenty bright and cheery, and compared to Battlestar Galactica it was Leave it to Fucking Beaver in the warmth department. He then blasted it for being too well let and more like a waiting room loung than a space ship. I should have told him flat out, you can't have it both ways. I gather that Earth-based shows are also cheaper, although how they were able to make space shows back in the day but now, when technology has improved so much that it's suddenly too expensive I do not understand. This Eureka fad will get old pretty fast either way. It's a cute show, but I sure as hell do not want exclusively 4400 and Eureka style sci-fi shows with people walking around Vancouver or Wherever, Canada with occasional CGI effects thrown in to make it all science fiction-y. Any format will suck when the material and the producers are lame. No offense to Stargate Atlantis, but I found its whole approach quite dull. I prefer more compelling characters and a little more of an arc. Just like Stargate SG-1, they beat everything to death. Oh no, the Wrait have found Atlantis again! Bored of them? No prob, the Replicators are building a quantum neutron gate to reach Earth this week! I'm all for a fight the villains formula, but give me some fucking gravitas! Star Trek managed that up through Deep Space Nine. Voyager lost it. Enterprise recapped it a little, but I had no confidence in the producers by then and they didn't change show runners until the show was already doomed. I guess basically it'll take Star Trek's return to TV to save this category of sci-fi show because Network beancounters are stingier than ever about it.
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BSG is ending. Doctor Who will probably go to BBCA, which also has Torchwood and Primeval. They never tried to cultivate an audience for Chalie Jade and bailed on it after two episodes. All they have left is Eureka and that's in it's third season. It's debatable whether Caprica will get past pilot stage. Ice Planet ended up stillborn. So that leaves SciFi with barely any product. Joe Prophet and SNAP are not going to bring in any viewers. And Stargate is MGM's second most valiable franchise, after Bond. You'd think they'd syndicate it or something rather than just pack up the tent. These moves don't really make any sense.
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BBC doesn't control BBC America as far as I know, it would not be keeping Dr. Who "in house" for BBC if it skips the Sci-Fi Channel and goes straight to BBC America. As far as I know, BBC wanted a lot of money for US rights to Dr. Who, more than BBC America could afford. The only reason I think Sci-Fi could lose Dr. Who is if they don't want to pay for it anymore, which could happen for any number of reasons.
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Just like the History Channel running 'Ice Road Truckers', seriously what the fuck does that have to do with history? I'd rather they run reruns of Star Trek(s), X-Files, Babylon 5, MST3K, or anything that is actually science fiction rather than the killer critter of the week crap they run. Good ridance to Atlantis, SG-1 was good up until about Season 6, all else since then has been crap (with Claudia Black being the one exception).
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I love watching this on HD
Now.. it's not as well written as something like Farscape, which I've just started watching this year, it's a little under budget and unambitious. But the characters are very good.
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It's funny they're avoiding the use of the word 'cancelled'. They're getting better at canceling shows since Farscape.(not creating shows) They don't want to aleniate the fans. But they don't have any real SCI FI left. I expect caprica to be a huge low budget FAIL.
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Stargate Universe "maintains the spirit of Stargate, but opens up a whole new 'universe'.
It is "a completely separate, third entity" – as opposed to Stargate Atlantis, which was created as a spin-off from the first series Stargate SG-1
The show will be "set on a ship that was part of an Ancient experiment" to seed the galaxies with Stargates millions of years ago but that was prematurely ended by the Ancients' ascension. After placing Stargates throughout multiple galaxies, a second ship would follow up and explore. The basis of Stargate Universe is that the ninth and final chevron, the purpose of which was previously unknown, would serve to get to the first ship.
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Despite this seeming to make no sense, it may be true because Sci Fi wants a show they can hire all new actors for peanuts. But I can't imagine how much less they can pay what they were paying the actors on Atlantis.
If they make Stargate Universe, except the new universe to look very cheap indeed. -
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History channel showed planet of the apes, Weather channel has shows, Headline news has programs that are more than just headlines, BBC America showed Dancing With the Stars, SciFi shows wrestling, TV Guide channel has shows. And people are surprised when television viewership keeps dropping...
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Stargate Atlantis was and is unpretentious fun!! I love the characters in the show. Why cancel a show that has a big fan base and is basically good fun? The Stargate franchise is SF for the whole family. Dont forget we grew up with these kind of series. And it made us fell in love with Science Fiction. The DVD movies will stop after 2 or 3 shows, because they are simply not profitable and mostly disappointing. I love BSG, but I want to see SF in different variations. Why everything has to be so death serious. Probably Eureka is next.
Frack you Scifi with all your B-movies and bad Mini series.. and frack you NBC for killing Journeyman and bringing the abomination Bionic Woman last year.
Frack you USA network for killing the 4400 without an decent final. You all despise your viewers.
May you all burn in network hell!! -
20009 will only have: 10 BSG, 4 Dotor Who Specials, 5 Torchwood, and a SGA 2 hour movie in a pear treeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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Left out the "c" in "Doctor" in my last post. Speaking of the Doctor, someone in an earlier post said we only had 6 hours of Doctor Who next year, that means each special will be 90 minutes? That would be nice, but, as they say in that song, "I can dream, can't I?"
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And that's coming from a huge SG1 fan. There were 2 problems with Atlantis. Beyond Joe Flannigan, the cast sucked. All were robotic except for McKay, who was in a constant state of panic trying to solve the crisis each episode. And worse yet, this show had apparently no budget for location shoots. Every episode was getting trapped in a puddle jumper, getting attacked by something in the city, and on and on. Season 1 was good, but this show nosedived after that.
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They canceled it after two seasons because they claimed the invisibilty special effects were too expensive per episode. But out of all the shows Sci-Fi reruns(even shows previously on other channels) they don't acknowlege Invisible Man ever existed.
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this is what they should have done for star trek ds9, direct to video movies. its a crying shame we will never get to see a big screen version of Deepspace Nine.
I havent really ever seen star gate atlantis, but i was a big fan of SG1. i should probably go and check out atlantis. -
find a REAL fucking job. Help mankind, don't hinder it.
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Enterprise and Star Trek Voyager are shows that never should have been produced to begin with. No cast chemistry, no excitement, no good scripts, no character development and, worst of all, boring! Goodbye.
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Yeah that new Stargate series should arrive right after Godot.
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Yeah, but they both hate Jews right?
I hear their new tag line is:
BBC, antisemitic and proud.
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If only they would have a channel or two for classic films... Planet of the Apes is a great movie but there are a ton of other movies that should be on History channel before it -- any of a million WWII movies for one thing.
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--like a remake of LEXX, which could be real fun. How about Henson doing a PIGS in SPACE series?
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IT'S NOT HISTORY!!! Wrestling should not be on Sci-fi!! Cartoon Network should not be running purely live action movies, Roger Rabbit & similar stuff they can get away with, but they've been showing all live action stuff lately. They are niche channels, that's the whole POINT! I get that they are trying to build bigger audiences, but you don't do it by abandoning your core audience and gutting the few shows that are actually working for you!
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Was firefly or saab offered to sci-fi to save? I vagely remember a story sbout this in the past. If true the channel is officially run by morons.
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I was dragged into watching the original "SG-1" by a friend, and grew to tolerate, even somewhat enjoy the show for what it was: cheesecake science fiction. I generally prefer my shows more creative, though-provoking, and ass-kicking, but "SG-1" had its moments.
Unlike "Atlantis." The cast and crew of this spinoff seemed committed, but the show never went anywhere. Two things brought its downfall: 1) a brainless, one-dimensional, yawn-inducing "bad alien" race, and 2) Tela, or whatever her name was, as the one-dimensional, yawn-inducing, cringeworthy feminist warrior. The actress who plays her seems like a nice woman, but goddamn did the writers ABSOLUTELY strike out with her. And the Wraith were one of the worst, most cliche-ridden baddies in the history of science fiction. Seriously, they sucked hard. There was nothing compelling or interesting in any way about them. But "Atlantis" for some reason committed to their development, which pushed me, after two episodes, to never want to see another episode. And I sort of never did.
Cheesecake science fiction has a built-in audience, and I quietly respect the genre even though I don't seek it out.
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arguably one of the best shows they've done in years and they let it slip through thier fingers. yes, to global frequency as well, that show needs to be made
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wtfuck this cant be the ratings were high no one asked for a movie it works best as a series. what now? and i like ATLANTIS alot. i dont know what universe is, does it even have a stargate?
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seriously, Atlantis was SHIT! I almost gave up on this show after S1, but S2 opened well and I gave it another chance.
Unfortunately, they settled on a formula: great season opener, FILLER, MORE FILLER, ok mid-season , MORE FILLER, end of season cliff, RINSE, REPEAT...
About as sad to hear about this as I was excited to hear about Clone Wars...
Only thing, tho - the DTV movies were a BAD BAD BAD way to finish (?) SG1, so why make the SAME mistake AGAIN again? -
its the only decent show on the channel and they cancel it? its beyond absurd and yes BSG sucks why cant they cancel that instead. atlantis was unique and that city was so awesome makes you wish you were there. if it existed in real life i would totally be there no matter how dangerous.
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I've watched a season and a half on dvd. . . it's hard to stay awake. Not terrible, just. . . bland.
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SciFi channel lost a lot of respect when it canceled SG1 and started showing wrestling about the same time. Although wrestling was scarier than the Wraith.
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Watch n learn bad boy, watch n learn.
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I mean I certainly don't proclaim to be the all knowing God of "Hollywood" but they give us Mansquito and cancel one really decent to excellent series? SciFi channel is doing to SciFi what MTV did to music . . . killed it.
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I like both shows. Sure, they are paranormal, but that's a whole lot closer to "scifi" than wrestling or Law & Order repeats. As for *Doctor Who* moving completely to BBC America, I am totally against it. BBC America is simply not a basic cable channel - unlike SciFi - and it will cause viewership to drop. Plus I hate how BBC America televises the program. I hate their Doctor Who bumps when going to commercial; people talk about the cuts SciFi makes to the program but at least they don't kill the atmosphere each time they go to commercial like BBCA does. SciFi just needs better management. Perhaps NBC Universal should spin off the channels. Maybe Liberty Media could administer them better.
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Congratulations. I don't think that I have ever seen one geek resurrect a dead thread from a year ago by spamming 260 posts.
Is this the first zombie thread on AICN? -
...it's just a tv show. Really.
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Expect to be banned for this. The mods don't like spamming, brotha.
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Watched the Stargate shows?
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Because, guess what, I really liked both shows!!! Dioxholster, my friend, Spfiy (That's what I call that cable channel.) was too cheap to spring for another season of SA. We all hate it, but, we have to live with it. I don't watch the channel anymore, if I see something on it I want to watch, I watch it, but not by turning to Spfiy, best revenge.
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Die.
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Papillon, Outlaw Josey Wales, Every Which Way But Loose, Any Which Way You Can, and more 80s tv appearances than you can shake a stick at. Get on it before the Black Widows come for you. Hit it LordofHell.
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