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Is There Life On (VERONICA) MARS?
Beaks here...
I was a huge fan of VERONICA MARS before The CW sabotaged the show during its third season (by cutting its show order and forcing an on-the-fly restructuring of several story arcs). Created by Rob Thomas, it was a very slick conflation of high school dramas and detective series - kind of like 90210 crossed with THE ROCKFORD FILES (very sexy, but with fewer visits to the Malibu Pier). I'm still not sure why it failed to find a huge audience (Kristen Bell was adorable in the title role, and Enrico Colantoni was terrific as her PI father), but, as Joss Whedon demonstrated with SERENITY, abject failure in the ratings is hardly the end.
That said, we're a long way from any kind of beginning. The EW headline that has tongues wagging today reads "Bell, Thomas Orbit VERONICA MARS Movie", which is a little like saying "Scott, Weaver Orbit ALIEN Sequel". Though it's technically true that both parties have "talked" about these ventures to some extent, in terms of becoming a reality... they're incredibly far off. Obviously, Thomas and Bell are a little more serious about VERONICA MARS (I guess), but when your story's money quote begins "Kristen and I ran into each other...", it's hard to get worked up (especially when the ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT continue to taunt fans with a big-screen reunion every other week). Then there's this:
"It's very tough to focus on it right now with two pilots on my plate," adds Thomas, referring to his two ABC projects, a reworking of his '90s dramedy Cupid and an adaptation of the New Zealand series Outrageous Fortune. "But as soon as I have any free time, that's my top priority."
Hard chargers like Thomas don't know the concept of "free time". I mean, if this latest incarnation of CUPID goes south like the other one did (which would be unfortunate, since I really liked the Jeremy Piven version), maybe he'll be able to bump MARS up on his cluttered queue. But then what? Unless Bell opens WHEN IN ROME to $20 million-plus in 2009, I can't imagine Warner Brothers would be eager to pony up a halfway decent budget for a cult show that's been off the air for several years (especially after Fox's experience with THE X-FILES: I WANT TO BELIEVE).
Much as I'd love to see Thomas and Bell pull this off, I just can't get my hopes up.
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just because she is hot
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I finally really did it!
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I was so close!
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to say the Kristen Bell is incredibly sexy. The lazy eye just adds to it for me.
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one second to be exact
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Aug 20, 2008 3:09:23 PM CDT
Veronica Mars wasn't run into the ground like X-Files was
by margot_tenenbaum
There's still more story there, but I wish they'd keep it on TV and do quarterly TV movies, like Columbo or something.
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to post the seventh message on this thread!
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if this is about a theatrical movie, yeah the odds arent good. bit if its just some mini-series or tv movie or even a DTV movie well, there's a good chance there. it would be interesting to see a tv movie follow the "veronica as an FBI agent" route they were hoping for. then we could have a nice little mystery movie. hell maybe it could turn into the next columbo, as in a series of tv/dtv movies. either way, when's a nice fancy "complete series" box set coming for those 3 seasons? if shitty shows like land of the giants or whatever its called can get one, this sure as hell deserves it.
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And it would surely make 45 million. Plus DVD sales. And DVD rentals. The return would be good enough for WB to make the initial investment. These are the same people who are making Friday the 13th and Final Destination 4. Both those movies were made on the cheap and are expected to make good profit. So why not do the same here? This could be profitable as a stand alone movie with Bell front and center that ties up loose ends while opening up the possibilities for more VMars movies. Or hey, why not just make DTV VMars movies? DTV doesn't always mean bad quality. It's just another way to reach fans. That's what Ryan Murphy should have done with "Popular".
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Rob Thomas has been talking about a Mars movie for years now, and Bell has always been on board. I see nothing new here.
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? It was OK but there were other more deserving shows out there that got canceled with no uproar like this had.
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You wouldn't need much in terms of cash to make a VM movie that rocked. You might need one or two large special effects shots (plane crash, bombing, etc...), but VM isn't Rush Hour... you don't need ridiculous car chases that last 15 minutes or a fight scene every 3 minutes. None of the regulars have a super high price tag (Forgetting Sarah Marshall had a total cost of $30 Million - I'd think that a little special effects added to that budget would be more than enough). I'd bet a $35 million budget would pull back well over $75 million in box office (outside shot at $120 - probably around $85) and a plethora (you do know what a plethora is, don't you?) in DVD sales.
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...I mainly watched to see Kristen Bell.
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...she got into a whole conversation about the eye on Leno. She was hil-fuckin'-larious, too, proving she's do great in a comedy as well as a drama. Cute girl.
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Pennsy hasn't already been on this TB doesn't he have some kind of KB chip in his head that alerts him whenever there is a mention of her herejust joking mananyways a VM movie, even DTV or something isn't that bad of an idea
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Because who the fuck wants to see a show about a cute teenage detective? The premise alone overshadows any possible quality, by managing to be absolutely unappealing to anyone with taste.
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They had a great idea for S4, and they got shafted. Move the story up a few years, have her in the FBI. BRILLIANT. It would have been greatness. Instead, we have to settle for watching Bell outshine damn near everyone on Heroes. *sigh* Wish she had gone to Lost instead.
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Make it a rock musical and I'm in!
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I'd love a Veronica Mars movie, especially if it was freed from the constraints of TV to allow proper sex/swearing.
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She got chlamydia, remember?
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Seeing a Veronica Mars item NOT in the Coaxial section for the first time ever, just to say, "nothing to see here." I know, I know, blame EW. But I hadn't read that EW item, so I kinda blame AICN. :-P
That said, while it wasn't "THE GREATEST SHOW EVER!!!" (That title belongs to Arrested Development for me) Veronica Mars was a great show, and I was probably more attached to it than I've ever been to any show, so yeah, if this ever did happen, I'd be first in line opening day. -
at least I wasn't at first attracted to Veronica Mars (the show not KB herself)because it looked like and sounded like a cheap Nancy Drew knockoffI was glad to be proven wrong, but that's how I first viewed it
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Aug 20, 2008 4:13:33 PM CDT
Article was posted just to piss me off and give me hope...
by danielkurland
Do you realize how fucking awesome a season four would have been with a Van Lowe-run Neptune?
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Isn't it?
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A cute teenage detective that is RAPED in the pilot? This show, which partly suffered due to the "cute" name, is hardly what a lot of people thought it was. And in spite of the quality of the first season, you had the network interfering by stunt casting like Paris Hilton, which only perpetuates what all the people that hated the show thought it was about.
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I'd say the reveal of who killed Lily Kane is MAYBE as satisfying as finding out who killed Laura Palmer. I just loved how all the clues were there and it was almost kind of obvious, but for whatever reason, it still managed to elude most. It's a real shame that CW had them ditch the season long mystery in order to get ratings, and then ditched the third mini-mystery in favor of standalone episodes, again for ratings, and then cancel the show. If they were going to be cancelled, they should have just been allowed to do what they wanted, and with the lack of tampering, things probably would have been more cohesive anyway.
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There was plenty of hype, and a large enough audience for a "good" X-Files movie to succeed. Unfortunately, Fox didn't release a "good" X-Files movie. Movie studios never seem to blame failures on poor quality. Failure must always be anyone else's fault. What is worse, is then they insist on holding up their broken logic to hold back or destroy other properties that might otherwise do well.
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The network, be it UPN or CW, seemed to WANT people to think it was exactly what people assumed it was. It all came down to shitty, shitty, marketing, that only cared about the network's target demographic, who, let's face, were kind of wrong for the show in the first place. I mean, I never watched a single other show on either network, but I fucking loved this show.*sigh* if only it had been picked up by HBO in the first place...
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what a ridiculous way to write off a brilliant show. That's like saying Lost is about a plane crash. The first season was GOLD. One of the best adult shows about teenagers I've seen in a long time. 2nd season struggled a bit, got kinda incoherent, but still some great stuff, 3rd season struggled even more, would have been a good transitional season to something better, like the FBI jump. Maybe it was meant to have a short life, but a movie would be a great way to continue the story. I just wish there was more of a market for made-for-tv movies these days. I don't need a splashy theatrical release, just a good two hours on television to continue Veronica's story and not leave it on the downer note the show ended on.
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...it surprised the hell out of me. i don't even remember why i netflixed it; i think someone suggested it to me based on my love for "twin peaks"... but regardless, wow, what a good show. so fucking addictive. the world needs more veronica mars.
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Is the idea just to deflate the rumors? If so, it's almost better to just ignore it.
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Sounds like the best solution to me.
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Sorry about the extra space in that URL. You know the one.
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Sorry, the Bowie reference in the title got to me.
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Such a great little show that got lost on the shittiest of networks. I could watch Veronica and Keith Mars do their thing for the rest of eternity.
A VM movie focusing on the hard noir aspects of the show would be fucking awesome. I can't imagine it'd do great business (probably end up in the same bin as Serenity) but god, I'd love it. -
when this talkback sprung up. :)
I hope it gets done, and it will be infinitely better than Elle hooking up with Sylar for a love child, perhaps, in one of Heroes' alternate futures. -
For Kristen's When in Rome, backed by the powerful Disney marketing machine to accomplish it. Forgetting Sarah Marshall is now over $101 million worldwide at the boxoffice, FYI. I totally believe Bell could carry a movie on her shoulders.
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i got hold of the first series and started watching it through with friends maybe 2 years ago. made it about 4 episodes in before we all agreed we didn't know what the fuck was wrong with talkbackers on coaxial aicn on this one but we wanted no part of it. i couldnt believe id been given such a bad steer, still cant. the show has, literally, NOTHING i or my friends are interested in, it was completely boring, teenage tripe with a bunch of little boys and girls. i still dont understand why all the people in the lost, bsg and heros talkbacks - shows i love - kept going on about it. its just a show so wildly divergent from my tastes i was taken aback that it came often recommended by my supposed peers here. i stopped listening to what people here said was good after that.
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Aug 20, 2008 5:40:17 PM CDT
You mean there isn't a serious go at an ARRESTED movie?
by iamnicksaicnsn
Fuck! Get on that shit Howard!
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im scared already. what the hell? a guy called teh suk wants to beat me and 'my kind' up for being unenthusiastic about a teen detective show? this must represent some kind of success.
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I wonder if they would've killed Logan? I also doubt Keith won the election...I sincerely miss this show.
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Maybe this will make up for the pile of crap that was the supposed series finale.
I miss Ms. Mars, and Bell's stint on Heroes as the dimwitted whore with a real static cling problem just didn't do it for me. Why Kring feel the need to take one of the wittiest young actresses and Hollywood and turn her into a damn mouth breathing drooling blonde stereo type? If I were a blonde chick I would pissed, assuming I could divert my attention away from my breasts long enough to care about anything else, that is. -
Even with a low budget the audience the show attracted wouldn't justify a theatrical release. Serenity was barely profitable, if at all thanks to its core audience which was mostly satisfied in the firt weekend. Going Direct to Video with a modest budget would get you some decent revenue one way or the other. Everything Warner Premiere makes is low budget but guarantees a profit, even crap like Dukes of Hazzard II and Lost Boys II. Going that route doesn't necessarily mean crap if you've got the same talent. If a BSG miniseries can be a ratings smash a Veronica Mars miniseries could do the same on say....TNT or TBS.
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Why *did* Kring feel the need yada yada yada, I meant to say.
And too busy working on current projects? Cupid, Rob? Really? Shoot and arrow through the heart of that POS already and get busy with getting the ol' Mars Band back together. -
I think the reason why Veronica Mars didn't do well with audiences is because it was sold as yet another teen drama with a detective angle. Doesn't sound all that interesting. And really, how else would you sell it? The show was decent in the first season but nothing special. And teh suk, if you have a problem with my not thinking Veronica Mars is the greatest show that ever was, too fucking bad. You should be banned for the shit you said aestheticity.
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Mm hm.
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I was afraid there's be no room on the couch, what with every mid-teen girl in the family all parked in front of my LCD watching it.
From a distance, it just looked like a series written for teenage girls, and I tend to not have much in common with them. -
Someone just lost all credibility. I'll give you a hint: It's you.
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Not that it would ever happen, but from all those Big Lebowski references this show had, you can tell Thomas worships those Coens and would kill to have this movie directed by them.
And for the record, I liked the ending of the show. Veronica was a noir hero - they never get happy endings. Hers was an ongoing struggle, and I liked it that way. Still, because it was a non-conclusive ending, adding to the story would work just fine (and fantastic!). -
geez. We need "edit" buttons, dammit.
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That's all I got to say.
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Thomas could probably get his friends Michael Cera, Paul Rudd, Jeremy Piven, etc. to appear in the movie. They're all rather big right now.
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:D at your comment. It's pretty definite that Kristen will be ending her Heroes stint by the end of the year. But there's still too much of a stigma, IMO, to direct-to-video. No matter how many times Disney does it, the general perception seems to be that DTV is where Eddie Murphy's last 5 movies should have wound up. Not good enough for theaters, that is.
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For one thing, Veronica's on-again off-again romance with Logan. The guy was a douche. I never understood the attraction, and it's not like the show ever delved into whatever baggage caused her to come back to the asshole over and over. For another, the high school characters were written with far too much baby boomer hip dialogue. I'm sorry, but what high school cheerleader in the year 2004 knows the words to The Police's "Don't Stand So Close to Me"? I also was never fond of what seemed like a subconscious or even conscious desire on Veronica's part to rejoin the popular kids. I didn't like that Veronica basically guilted her dad out of dating, but that was a minor complaint. I should add that I actually liked the show overall. I'm one of the few who preferred the 3rd season to the first two (I liked the shorter arcs, the college age range). But the show had problems.
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I just went back and read the posts before mine (I just wanted to add my 2 cents, then thought I should see if anyone else said similar). Danielkurland brings up a point of contention I had with the first season, actually. Yeah, she was raped. And when the truth comes out and the audience is clued in on what really happened, it's treated soooo shitty. SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS I was insulted by the implication that just because it was her fucking boyfriend and he was a mental case and she was drunk that somehow it isn't as big a deal. The show almost seems to say, hey, it's okay now, let's all forgive and forget. Well fuck that. That was the worst thing about Season One. You don't blow off the rape of the main character. SPOILERS ENDED. SPOILERS ENDED. SPOILERS ENDED.
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Get it? Is there life on V Mars? Spray some on her belly? Eh? Eh?
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Aug 20, 2008 8:37:21 PM CDT
New it was too well written to be a Herc post
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
before I noticed the name.
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we're talking 2006, heroes is in its first season and hasnt reached the finale yet. i LIKED it. lots of people did. i stopped liking it since then. so have a lot of people. don't make me go back and discover you're one of the frequent heroes talkback posters at that time. that would be embarrassing for you.
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I think the show definitely got into Veronica's baggage with being with people that treat her badly. She was definitely fucked up, and she knew it. She tazered people. She put tracking devices on people's cars that trusted her. In addition to having her best friend killed, being raped, her fucking MOTHER stealing the money she earned for college, thinking she wasn't raped, and then finding out she actually was raped, and got a VD because of it, and the plethora of other things she experienced, Veronica knew she was not a functional person who immensely had to struggle to just deal with others. I also don't think she had any desire to be with the cool kids. She was apart of that and I think just saw how horrible it was. Sure, to some degree she probably abandoned it because she was forced to, but I don't at any point in the show, do we see a Veronica that is trying to regain that. If anything, she at times attempts to be "normal" and do "normal" things, so she can trick herself into believing she's not as dysfunctional as she knows she is. I do agree with you, that I do think subconsciously Veronica resented her dad for dating. She loved him more than anything else, but fundamentally, Veronica was just a greedy person. You can see this in how she treats Wallace and Logan, and these are her best friends. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Veronica's a bad person. If anyone experienced half the stuff she did, at her age, they'd go insane. Veronica has just been burned so many times, she's incapable of trusting people, and that makes her do terrible things. She doesn't want to, and she hates herself for it. But that's who she is. The entire show illustrated what sort of baggage Veronica had.
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if one of her movies in 2009 opens big and makes here the "next" Reese Witherspoon/Kate Hudson/Katherine Heigl. Sarah Marshall didn't open big enough nor was it really her movie. She has two romantic comedies coming out next year and romantic comedies are usually star makers for actresses. One or both hit and she will have the clout to get a Veronica Mars movie made.
The question is if she become the IT romantic comedy actress of the minute, will she want to do Veronica Mars? Romantic comedy actresses A-List careers are really short lived. Just ask Brittney Murphy, JLO, Drew Barrymore, Alicia Silverstone, Sandra Bullock, etc. Bell could want to milk the sappy movie gravy train for as long as she can. -
But I see Bell as being grateful to the show that "made her" (as well as being close with the cast), and for whatever reason, don't see her succumbing to the typical Hollywood Star Syndrome that everyone else does.
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I was going to come on here and say "If the show isn't your taste, then it must not be any good, right? Cause it's can't possibly be that maybe you just don't have good taste in things?" But then 'teh suk' posted what he did, as a supporter of VM, and made the rest of us look bad. So I apologize, in general.
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this has no chance of surfacing. i love the show, the characters were engaging and witty, the stories were great. butnot getting my hopes up, sorry. too many times its happened only to be let down again.
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There is a difference than being grateful and not tanking your career to play a role that helped to make you famous. Bell could tell Thomas that after she does so and so movie, she will do a Veronica Mars movie and that just gets pushed back.
If she is getting offered role(s) of a lifetime, it will be might hard to refuse them for a Veronica Mars movie that will probably only be a modest hit at best. You see that happen all the time in Hollywood.
Do you think the Arrest Development movie could be slow to come together in part because Michael Cera's career is smoking hot right now and is doing a half dozen movies? I am sure he is grateful to Arrested Development for making him well known enough to get Superbad and Juno, but he is doing at least three other movies that I know of right now. -
Well argued.
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Those things you mentioned sound more like personal problems that you had with the characters rather then something that was wrong with the show. The show had irrational, flawed characters, like real people tend to be. If Veronica had been perfect, and always made all the right decisions, and never didn't anything wrong or unreasonable, then it would've been boring. If anything, it was those little touches that made me love the show more. The fact that sometimes I hated Veronica, and sometimes I could get behind the person that was supposed to be the bad guy. My favorite thing of all was how people were never really who they seemed like at the beginning. Weevil became Veronica's ally, Logan became her protector, Beaver became a villain, and Piz became the right guy for her (yeah, i liked Piz, shut up). But also, the show was a fantasy of sorts. There's no way any high school girl could be as smart and savvy as Veronica, so when some of the other kids seemed a bit too quick witted or knowledgeable, I just suspended my disbelief. And, I may be remembering Season 1 wrong, but wasn't the outcome that Logan DIDN'T rape Veronica? Just that he was there? And then in Season 2 [SPOILER] it was revealed that it was Beaver that actually raped here?
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...but wasn't the outcome that [Duncan] DIDN'T rape Veronica...?
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It will make Kristen Bell a permanent member of your spank bank. Especially during season 3, where she approached nearly catastrophic levels of cuteness.
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Aug 20, 2008 10:06:13 PM CDT
Definitely valid points, but Bell seems unusually devoted...
by flickchick85
To Rob Thomas. I mean, she's not just grateful, she's said several times she'd work with him again in an instant no matter what the project was. Maybe it's just my romantic idealist side (wasn't aware I had one of those) talking, but I think that might trump any random career concerns she might have about it. Plus, I don't think a VM movie would be above-the-radar enough to tank her career in any way. Plenty of actors alternate between big movies and small movies. VM could be one of her smaller movies.
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Duncan didn't "rape" her (though they did have sex that she doesn't remember), but Cassidy sure did.
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Sorry, I just read my post and it sounded like I was correcting you or something. I was actually agreeing.But I still hated Duncan.
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Thanks
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Aug 20, 2008 10:13:06 PM CDT
"She's said ... she'd work with him again ... no matter what the
by docbosch
That settles it. Rob Thomas' next project is a porno.
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It isn't that a Veronica Mars movie would hurt her career, it is that she could end up missing out on a once of a lifetime part that puts her in the elite actress category. Say for example, Leonardo DiCaprio passed on Titanic to do a Growing Pains reunion movie (ok, I am using an extreme to make my point). What would that have done to his career?
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...an artful, tasteful, witty, smart, deep, complex porno. With a lot realistic, flawed character and girl-on-girl action.
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But if a part is TRULY once in a lifetime, then right after that she should have no problem with any other scheduling conflicts. ;)
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Aug 20, 2008 10:19:55 PM CDT
TVGuy, I believe it's just When in Rome as Kristen's big-ticket
by pennsy
for 2009, since her other one, Serious Moonlight looks like an indie film; it was filmed in about 3 weeks, on a limited budget, per IMDB. She's got acting ability in spades, and made Gracie's Choice compelling. She's got the personality to parlay her TV work into a successful transition to film.
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so it's DEFINITELY a little indie flick. And probably pretty darn good. Honestly, I don't see either of these movies being smash hits, but who knows.
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Ok, Juno is a rare occurance, but it could happen with Bell's indie flick. It does have a decent enough cast (Meg Ryan, Justin Long, Timothy Hutton along with Cheryl Hines from Curb Your Enthusiam as the director) to make waves if it is really good. But I agree that When in Rome would be far more likely be her star making vehicle.
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on her cuteness and five-alarm hotness. I truly believe, after seeing her twice (two times more than I ever thought I would), Bell is the kind of woman a straight, red-blooded guy would climb over a hundred of his fellow gender for the chance to go out with her...
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clarification there.
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He got a bad rap, IMO from all the shippers who wanted Veronica and Logan to get back together. But I liked him, and Chris Lowell pulled it off nicely.
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I actually see When in Rome being another 29 Dresses, Sweet Home Alabama, How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, Never Been Kissed, etc. type of movie. It all depends on when it is released and how it is marketed. It does have the cast to make it a big romantic comedy hit (also stars Josh Duhamel, Danny DeVito, Angelica Houston, Will Arnett, Jon Heder).
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Sad, but true. 27 Dresses was GOD. AWFUL. But it was a hit. I guess the same could happen for When in Rome, but for some reason, I have my doubts. Can't really put my finger on why.
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Aug 20, 2008 11:07:45 PM CDT
Maybe it's because the co-stars haven't had hits lately
by flickchick85
I mean, DeVito? No. Heder's last "romantic comedy" was that bomb with Witherspoon and Mark Ruffalo, right? I love Angelica Houston and Will Arnett, but Will Arnett's last attempt at a major role (Brothers Solomon) was a MAJOR bomb, and Huston doesn't really bring in box office. The only other draw would be Duhamel, which I could kinda see working, but his TV show is also now cancelled, and he wasn't exactly major (or memorable) in Transformers. His last time as a love interest in a rom-com (Win a Date with Tad Hamilton) didn't work out so well, either.
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There would be a Veronica Mars, Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Serenity 2: Whedon Returns movie marathon opeing next weekend.
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I liked Piz probably for the same reasons others disliked him. He was a doofy, nice guy that should really have no chance with Veronica. Ah, fuck it, I liked Piz because he was ME! I'd be the guy that could make acquaintances with a girl like Veronica, develop a huge crush and only manage to be awkward around her. And it was cool when she gave him a chance and realized she liked it. So I think that just makes me as bad as a 'shipper'. But it was nice to finally she her with somebody where it wasn't all drama all the time. This all coming after my big "VM is a great show because of the flawed characters and irrational behavior" post.
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C'mon guys, you're slacking today. That one was obvious.
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VM the girl/woman, always gave me that underlying chill vibe. A teasingly unreadable girl you knew would turn to women - one day (mummy issues). But, just to make you squirm, gave a small amount of hope that getting in there was possible, though never to last. Always thought it would be interesting to see VM turn darkly in adulthood, and a play cat and mouse game, with a younger version of herself (FBI, et al). Sexy, dangerous, and deranged.
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If you know what I mean.......
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A babe at 25, says she? Ewww... She still has no chest to speak of, and is just as sexy (not at all), an actress, as she was opposite Val Kilmer in Spartan years ago. Her only real sex appeal coming from her cold-frosted demeanor. Kristen says, yes. But, not to the boys...
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Yes, Mr Spork, we do know what you mean. By calling your Unit of Tastefulness 'Junk' I am guessing, like me... You keep it in a can in the fridge or in the pantry. Oh wait, I was thinking of Spam. Sorry. You meant your p*nis, yes?
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Kristen Bell:“The victim’s penis was found behind the air conditioner”; William Baldwin: “Can you say 'dicksicle'?”
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Such a wonderful, yet terrible line. I never liked Piz, but if you look at any of the behind the scenes footage, Bell and Lowell had AMAZING chemistry. Just so much fun to watch. For that alone, I could maybe justify the two characters together. What DIDN'T work was Logan dating Parker, and doing shit like going on a scavenger hunt, or making a cake with their fucking faces on it!
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Shame!
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Even the X-Files, which to date has pulled in 20.5 million ( a soul-crushing number to a fan of fifteen years, minus the last two seasons, mind you) will wind up being a mini-success when the dvd comes out. I don't see how that in any way relates to a Veronica Mars movie. If Carter had given us the movie we deserved (I actually kinda liked it, with all its many flaws)and expected we would be having a very different conversation. I don't believe an X-Files movie would ever make mega-bucks, but we could have seen it pass 100 if the story had been tighter, scarier and faster paced. Oh well, learn your lesson the easy way Hurwitz and Thomas.
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be DTV.
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nuff said
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You put Veronica Mars ON MARS, right? And she's trying to buy a home on one of the many vast run down beat up old "pre-terraforming" colonies - only its all tied up in paperwork by some family run real estate company with a whole slew of wacky relatives and friends. The oldest son tries to keep it going, but barely manages to stay sane and out of trouble with the law in his own right.
So she hires Captain Malcom Reynolds and his ship to ferry her belongings on/off the Mars colony and gunfights, bison, and mystery ensues.
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but I don't know, i've been let down before.. lol but who knows, anything will do whether its a theatrical release or dtv, I just want it made!
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Quality aside, Fox shouldn't be pissed about X-Files. I think it's obvious they knew they didn't have a blockbuster on their hands, hence their lackluster (pitiful) marketing. But the film made its budget back in (I want to believe) its first week in release, to say nothing of the business it'll do with folks waiting for rental (or were otherwise indisposed with Dark Knight etc etc). Don't be surprised if Carter gets another sequel somewhere down the line... he played smart by spending only a relative crumb of Fox's money and immediately making it back, even if he ended up making a dumb movie.
This is really the only mark of success non-blockbuster movies can hope to have these days. And future filmmakers, remember this - make enough money to offset the cost of the making the goddamn picture, and (almost) everyone gets hired in the future. -
Rumor has it she's also Spielberg's choice for Glinda in the movie version of the musical "Wicked"..
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Chenoweth.
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But I agree, no one can play Glinda like she did. Some of her Broadway replacements were good, but none of them THAT good. And because each one of them tries to out-funny the previous one, the character has just become more and more cartoonish. I miss the days when Cheno made her an actual human being. (yet still hilarious)
But since she probably will be replaced by a younger, more well-known star, Kristen Bell or Amy Adams seem like best choices to me. -
That fucking show just sucked. WHO watched and SUPPORTED that shit?
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http://tinyurl.com/6ktxvw and read about an elaborate hoax that almost, but not quite, came to be...
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And let's face facts, this was a one season show. Yes, season 2 had a lot of good in it, but the "story" of Veronica Mars was mostly contained in the first season.
And to anyone who gave up after a few episodes, I made that mistake once myself. All the threads come together so well at the end of that first season that I really consider it one of the best seasons of any show on TV.
As for Veronica herself, I kind of hated her character, even if I could admire her. She's not the kind of friend or girlfriend any sane person would want to have, and the "Pussification of Logan" didn't make much sense in that context. Hell, the "Pussification of Weevil" didn't help the show much either.
If the show were to continue, I wasn't too hot on the FBI thing, but I would have liked to see a prequel season of some sorts. I loved Lilly and wanted more.
Would I see this movie? Hell, yes. Should it be made? Probably not. Will it be made? Hell no, what you smokin'? -
Totally agree about VM season 1. So many shows set up a great mystery premise and then drag it out and then never deliver the goods. The payoff of the VM season 1 finale is excellent and possibly unmatched.
I agree that the other seasons were not up to the same level, but I think they were both pretty good. The whole whiny, vulnerable Logan did start to grate on me, but I still thought the shows were quality, and I think they handled the transition to college about as effectively as you could handle such a massive shift.
I don't know how the whole FBI thing would work, or any movie for that matter, because so much of the appeal of the show was her taking on these little cases, snooping around, bantering with her dad and the other regulars. I don't know that that kind of pacing and scale would translate well to the big screen.
On the other hand, if they just try to do an FBI-Silence-of-the-Lambs type deal, that's got a good chance of disappointing, because that's been done to death, and you would lose the essence of what makes the show unique and appealing. But... -
The show is the show, and it's over, so I am all for them taking a crack at a movie. If it works, that's fantastic. If it doesn't, I'm not out much, and at least they tried.
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thanx for the link... that art that dude made was pretty kool.. and can u imagine how crazy people would of went if they went through w/ the hoax.. lol
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It's the sort of thing that people would have wanted to believe, making it that much more disappointing when it's revealed to be false.I found Batgirl's ears sticking out to be distracting.
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I don't know why no one's corrected you on this, but if you kept watching the show, it wasn't her boyfriend who raped her - that was just a red herring. Both her and her boyfriend thought that they had had sex because they couldn't remember. In the 2nd season, we find out, despite Beaver's earlier protestations, that Beaver in fact DID rape her, which made us feel a little more okay about his death at the end of season 2. So the rape was NOT swept under the rug. Although, I had issues with how they made Beaver really evil in the end, despite the fact that he had been sympathetic throughout the show up until the last 2 eps of season 2.
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It's a pipe dream.
The first season was nearly perfect, it played out like a novel. The second and third, while good, had some problems, though I really enjoyed them when I watched them again on dvd. Keith Mars is the best tv dad ever. . . best casting ever. He didn't look like a typical tv "badass," but he was.
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