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‘I’m Thinking Of A Number Between One And Five!!’ Want To See Four Minutes They Cut Out Of IRON MAN??

Published at: Aug. 15, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

I am – Hercules!!
A bit of footage that suggests Tony Stark's secret identity was not destined to remain secret forever. Here's a clip you can see now, a month and a half before the DVD's Sept. 30 release: Courtesy Access Hollywood:

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  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    First!!!!

    by 3D-Man

    Yesssss!!!!!!

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    FIRST

    by gosassin

    first time. now i'm retiring.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    damn.

    by gosassin

    gotta come out of retirement now!

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    4th!

    by davebaxter1989

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    idiots.

    by dingus khan

    anyway, i watched the 3:31 of footage. i can see why it was cut...doesn't add much, except more of an "edge" to tony. <p>

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Good edit. Pointless scene.

    by HoboCode

    Would have dragged the movie even more than it already was.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    I Really Did Enjoy This Movie

    by Playhouse

    It was the perfect tone for this movie. If The Dark Knght hadn't have come out this summer, this would've been my top pick. Everyone nails - Favs, RDJ, the writers. Great flick. This sequence was fun. It's a bit overlong but I could've seen a trimmed version of this in the film.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    8th.

    by Roketopunch

    I'll buy it!

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST

    too bad

    by blackhole4140

    The Dark Knight has overshadowed this movie. What Marvel is doing in terms of movie continuity is really interesting.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Film Date is Interesting

    by PenguinSlide

    On the top right is a "filmed on" date. Fascinating. All the stuff in the lab was filmed 5/15/07 but there was one cutaway shot 5/21/07.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    And 3D-Man, you cheated.

    by PenguinSlide

    The time they posted this and the time you posted your 'first' are both available. And you obviously didn't actually watch the video before you posted... ...cheater.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    The minute she used her cellphone, Paltrow phoned IT in.

    by Squashua

    IT being her performance. From the big battle sequence on, with Paltrow on the phone in front of that green screen, IRON MAN failed for me; otherwise, I loved it.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Iron Man

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Better than TDK? For me, yes!

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Squashua

    by eric haislar

    I agree with you. But i would not blame her all for that. the phone call was a really lame plot device. That whole last act needed to be reworked it really does not shine like the rest of film. But it was still a great movie in the long run.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:09 p.m. CST

    my favorite movie all summer

    by Rufferto

    And I don't have to compare it to completely different films, with completely different feels and characters, to elaborate those feelings. It's not necessary. Will not watch this video. I'll buy the dvd. Thanks for letting me know, though. ;)

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Chicks were hot. Scene was pointless.

    by andrew coleman

    We already knew he was a women loving drinking party guy. Good cut. Iron Man was fun but I wish the last fight was a little more epic.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Ghostface Killah!

    by fastcars

    It's a pointless scene, but how awesome of them to include Ghost. His raps and albums have been riddled with Ironman references since '96 (even if most of them are samples from the cartoon and Ghosts saying "Yeah! Tony Starks! (sic)" And in an interview Ghost said RDJ was/is a huge Wu fan and knew his songs word for word.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Pointless?

    by Magnum Opus

    Come on, the other Tony Starks deserved this real cameo, better than the one of his video which was actually in the final cut. Both Iron Men together is worth seeing.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    erichaislar

    by Squashua

    I don't mind the fight so much (though it would have been better saved for The Incredible Hulk film); it was Paltrow's acting from that point onward that took me out of the theatre. She was OK and semi-believable earlier in the film, but suddenly she gets on the phone and is all "oh, I have no idea how to act", which bugged me to no end. (Obviously, because I'm still bitching about it.)

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    I can see why they cut it

    by Abominable Snowcone

    It suggests that Tony was still a fairly heartless carefree playboy even after becoming Iron Man. The way they cut it works better. Once he's home, fixes his heart and builds the suit, he witnesses what his weapons have done and it's "only the next mission" that matters.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    I'm sure there is an 'Iron Man' porno already..

    by Baron Karza

    With skankier chicks.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Ghostface Killah calls himself Tony Stark

    by rogerconnery

    Wu Tang members are big comic book fans; one of GFK's aliases is "Tony Stark". Good nod to Wu Tang.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Yeah Fav got this right too...

    by mr

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Paltrow looked rather lovely in this movie!

    by The Rabbit Of Carrot Shaped Doom

    That Coldplay fellow is one lucky chap.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    I'm glad they've cut this. No need to Bond it up.

    by David Cloverfield

    I have no problems with our womanizing heroes seducing women by how awesome they are. But I hate when they try to show this buy Stark (or Bond) simply pointing at random girls. In the final film he used his charm and wit (requiring INTELLIGENCE, that Tony has in spades) to get it on with girls. I would've hated this scene. Geek fantasy of what a cool guy should be. Iron Man was better than that.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Point of the scene...

    by Lujho

    ... is NOT to show he's a partygoing playboy, it's showing him throwing a party PURELY to set up an alibi for himself while he goes off and does some Iron Man stuff. He doesn't give a shit about the foursome at all, he just wants to be seen going off with 3 girls. Bruce Wayne did almost the exact same thing with the yacht in TDK.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Just re-watched Iron Man...

    by SlyAndTheFamilyStallone

    I loved it when it came out, then it got eclipsed by TDK hype. I've now seen TDK 4 times. But after re-watching Iron Man, I think it's safe to say IM was a lot more fun. TDK is a great film; one for the mantle. Iron Man is one for the DVD player. Sorry for the rambling, I'm all Vic'd out.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Lujho, you're absolutely right

    by jackson healy

    You're the only one on this Talkback who's not an idiot! Of course that's what he did! The foursome was cover so he could do his Ironman shit!

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Good cut, but it does fill in that "plot hole"...

    by flickchick85

    Some people were wondering how he flew all the way to the Middle East and back so fast (and without recharging or anything). This would've filled in that gap. Oh well, ultimately quite unnecessary.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    meh

    by thinboyslim.

    those green screen parties are always lame.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Clarification: It explains it because the party is in Dubai

    by flickchick85

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    You're late in the US of A!

    by MattParker

    In Brazil the special edition DVD will be released early September.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    You can't PAY me enough to watch this again

    by Sithdan

    Enduring it the first time was torturous enough. Talk about overrated, Christ.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Ehhh....

    by PirateEmery

    Good cut...<p> Another good cut would involve cutting those bikini straps. I'm all for a Rated R Iron Man 2.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Sithdan

    by Sixtyhurts

    Awwww...did you pee-pee in your Batman underoos again? Iron Man was a fun, flawed, but fun summer popcorn flick. No more, no less. I can't wait for number 2!

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    there is reasons they delete these scenes

    by joevfx

    and this is the reason.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST

    that was stupid

    by Stengah

    wasted 3 mins of potential internets.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST

    I think there was a point to the scene . . .

    by Petro45

    we just can't see it because it's out of context. Remember the scene in the movie where he flew in the Iron Man suit all the way from California to the Middle East? A bit hard to swallow. I think the idea of this scene was that he set up a party in Dubai so that he could fly in the armor to the village the terrorists were attacking. The party/foursome was his alibi. But then Favreau changed his mind, thinking "hey, I'm already asking the audience to believe that this guy could create a limitless power source to plug into his chest, it's not too much to ask them to suspend their disbelief that he could fly from Cali to Berzerkistan." So this scene got cut.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    supporting my theory . . .

    by Petro45

    If the scene was just supposed to show Stark as a hound dog, why was he being such a dud? Downey was definitely portraying Stark as disinterested, having something else on his mind . . .

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    First!!!! Only in my mind

    by CloneWars

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Iron man was like a PG family friendly super hero movie...

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    so i can't imagine why they would cut out a scene implying a foursome.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST

    pretty big waste of 3 minutes

    by Crow3711

    Except when he gets the girl to leave the fat guy and join them. I bet Downey has down that before.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    I wish I was super rich having sex w/ women around the world

    by kirttrik

    Hell, I'll just take the having sex with a woman part.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    The whole movie was pointless

    by SpencerTrilby

    I never understood why so many comic book movies were dumbed down to fit the lazy "action-comedy" formula when the source material called for another genre altogether. No crime drama for Daredevil; no wacky sci-fi for the FF. Hardly any political allegory in the X-flicks. Stark is supposed to be Marvel's answer to James Bond (as the Silver Age characters drew most of their traits from the genre movies of the 50's/early 60's). And yet there are no espionage or science-fiction themes in the film. Just effortless rom-com banter, cynical use of hot topics, slapstick gags and meaningless action that looks good in the trailer but falls flat in the movie. <p> Let's be honest, TDK made it look like a saturday morning cartoon with no merit other than putting an underdog actor on the limelight for good. Except the sympathy we have - or had - for Downey, the movie was unfathomably silly. To me, it's the Marvel equivalent to Batman Forever: charismatic lead phoning it in, lost in the middle of the most brainless plot they could've found. The shameless whoring of the director worked beyond the suits' expectations, but so did Jan De Bont or Emmerich movies.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST

    I've seen Batman and Iron Man 4 times each

    by blindambition238

    and if I had to pick one to watch one more time I'd side with Shellhead. It was just more enjoyable, though less ambitious.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Also Spencertrilby

    by blindambition238

    You're right on. Hopefully they'll realize that comic-books are just a format. Each story and character falls into their own genres of fiction. I think Dark Knight came the closest to reaching beyond that, though it stumbled a bit.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Of course, when I wrote Batman I meant TDK

    by blindambition238

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST

    ummmmmm...

    by DigitalBeachWar

    ok?

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Holy Shit, Tony Stark meets Tony Stark!

    by ganymede3010

    I was wondering why they didn't give the Ghostface Killer any props. Since he did his part in keeping the legend of Tony Starks alive when the franchise was in a lull. Good Shit Faveraue, or however the fuck your name is spelled!

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    That edit was nearly as beautiful as the women!

    by JDanielP

    Smart. Such behavior (from Tony Stark) was already implied in the movie we saw. Nice edit.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Spencer - TDK was all wrong, too.

    by ZeroCorpse

    People are going gaga over it, but really, it's the same faulty Batman movie formula they've always used: Batman as James Bond. <p> He has a "Q" to make gadgets. (Lucius) <p> He always has a romantic interest who is in danger. <p> He gets involved in car chases <p> He relies on gadgets more than fighting skill. <p> He lets the computers and brainy folks do the hard detective work. <p> He's a rich playboy with expensive sports cars. <p> He's after a "terrorist". (his words)<p> That's not to say I didn't like TDK, but that I think Heath's death propelled it into a level of admiration that it wouldn't have otherwise gotten. There was a LOT wrong with that movie. It wasn't perfect, and it wasn't very loyal to Batman's lore. It was essentially James Bond wearing a bat-suit. <p> Iron Man was very true to the current Iron Man comics. Maybe you're into the Silver Age, but that version of Marvel's characters hasn't existed for a long time, and Marvel was pretty good at getting the current version of Tony Stark onto the screen. <p> I didn't see any romantic comedy, except for the almost-kiss between Tony and Pepper. I saw a lot of Tony Stark acting like Tony Stark, and I saw an Iron Man that did justice to the source material. <p> Batman wasn't Batman. He growled and needed a lozenge. He barely fought. He barely did any detective work. He was dressed like Robocop lite. He was barely even in the movie! You could count all his lines and scenes on your fingers. <p> They should have called the movie "The Joker! (plus Batman)" or better yet, they could have just called it, "Heath Ledger's Last Movie" because that's what really made people give it more credit than it deserved.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST

    I hope it's not your credit score.

    by Det. John Kimble

    Peace.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    Liked Ironman moreso than TDK

    by Stalkeye

    yeah, we all know how good Dark Knight was, but it's not worth all the hype and besides how many Batman movies it took to finally get it right/ Which IM does on the first one.The main saving grace was not realy the CGI or Faveraus direction but Downey himself who nailed it as Stark. most of us scoffed when we first heard of his casting and now he we stand corrected.The fight between Shellhead and ironmonger was a bit rushed and reeked of Frank Miller's Robocop 2.But overall it was my pick of the Summer as Indi IV did'nt do it for me. <p>Already I preordered the Blu-Ray from Amazon but in the meantime I'm gonna watch the leaked screener.:P

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 5:07 p.m. CST

    I liked Incredible Hulk and TDK more then Iron Man

    by UMAGA

    That's not to say I didn't like Iron Man. I just enjoyed Hulk more and TDK made me it's bitch.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    "James Bond wearing a bat-suit"

    by UMAGA

    Umm..hellooo? I thought he didn't do any detective work?

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    enjoyed Iron Man more than TDK

    by Cedar_Room

    perhaps Batman and the clown will improve with repeated viewing, perhaps Iron Man will suffer. But honest to goodness I came out of my screening of Iron Man with a massive grin on my face having enjoyed every minute of it. It was EXACTLY what this sort of film should be doing. RDJr deserves all the adulation he is getting and I for one cannot wait until Iron Man 2.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Very glad this was cut out.

    by Royston Lodge

    I really loved Iron Man. My one complaint (there's always at least one) is how they dropped one of the most interesting parts of Tony Stark's character. No, not the alcoholism (though it would have been nice to see that in there at least a little). I'm talking about how one of the big reason's Tony takes on the Iron Man persona is simply because he's BORED. He's climbed every mountain. He's won every corporate battle. He's invented every device. He's conquered every women. It's no longer a challenge. He no longer cares. His trip to Southeast Asia where he gets the shit kicked out of him isn't a fun little jaunt. It's a boring-ass business trip and he hates every second of it. Robert Downey Jr's version of Tony Stark enjoys his life WAY too much for his Iron Man project to ever become more than just a hobby. It's the movie's fatal flaw. I simply cannot imagine this shallow, hedonistic playboy to have that massive moral conversion. It doesn't really make sense. In the comic books he doesn't stop manufacturing and marketing war machines. Stark Enterprises still sells death and destruction. He doesn't become a saint. He just commits himself to a new project that he knows he won't get bored of and that he can commit to for the rest of his life. If this scene had been left in, it would have increased the vapid nature of DowneyStark's character exponentially. Tony Stark needs JUST a little of the moody Christian Bale magic. Not TOO much, mind you. Tony doesn't become a hero because of some childhood tragedy. He becomes a hero because he's bored of being rich. If you added a Bale-esque emo attitude on top of that he'd become a real whiny little poseur.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Cedar_Room,,,,

    by CloneRangerUK

    ....agree with you 100% there buddy.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 6:08 p.m. CST

    ZeroCorpse

    by Dingbatty

    I concur with your assessment.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    wow...

    by hulkbuster

    glad that got edited out that was boring as hell

  • Leaving aside whether Iron Man or The Dark Knight were overrated, why the hell would anyone want only one flavor in superheroes? Thank God Iron Man was nothing like The Dark Knight.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 6:34 p.m. CST

    As for the deleted scene

    by Chewtoy

    Obviously, it needed work still if it were to be part of the whole film (I always love the musicless dancing in footage like this.) If they had decided to use it, I'm sure it would have been trimmed down some more. And yes, for those who don't catch it, Iron Man is seen leaving during the fireworks... in the context of the film it would be quite clear that he doesn't bang the three hot babes.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Nice Cl@ss

    by Dark Doom

    Nice arm candy, but no story. So why are we even seeing it? Yea Tony is tappin somehard core @ss, but didn't we already know that?

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 6:53 p.m. CST

    terrible

    by Reelheed

    this is why i never make purcahsing decisions based on "extras".

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Iron Man's final fight scene was fuckin weak...

    by TheWaqman

    I don't know how some of you guys enjoyed this movie more than The Dark Knight. It was very forgettable. Just a nice enjoyable summer movie, something you forget after a week. The ONLY thing holding it together was Downey Jr. Without him it would be generic garbage. Honestly moreso than any other superhero movie I've seen, this was the one that completely relied on the one actor.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 7:07 p.m. CST

    robert downey on tdk

    by bacci40

    "My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'," said Downey. "I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? F-ck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from."... He added that if he never works with DC Comics, it will be fine with him. "You know, you're never too old to burn your bridges because I believe I have offended everyone," he said. "I think I've got a couple more. 'I'll burn that bridge when I come to it' is my favorite phrase I've ever coined."...let the battle royale begin

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST

    and tdk was still formulaic bullshit

    by bacci40

    also, the joker didnt get to kill enough people...shoulda killed thousands...

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 7:55 p.m. CST

    How do you Cut Ghost face Killa

    by Phategod1

    No seriously it was a good edit, I appreciated GFK on the bigscreen on privat jet. Good looking out jon

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Good points ZeroCorpse

    by mrfan

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Iron Man is a more enjoyable film that TDK

    by MattmanReturns

    But Dark Knight is a better film. I think it's funny that Downey Jr. has managed to singlehandedly start a Dark Knight backlash. Of course, the Marvel fanboys were always destined to start talking shit eventually. I guess I'm lucky that I loved both movies.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Iron Man was definitely the movie of the summer

    by amrisharmpit

    I kind of wished they had done more than just an origin story, which is basically all that it was. But the film was well-made, well-acted, fun to watch, and set the stage nicely for a sequel. It was also great to see Downey getting the accolades that he deserved.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Director 4 Avengers

    by Henry_Krinkle_from_FairLawn

    David Fincher nuff sed

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 8:52 p.m. CST

    LOL like David Fincher would actually direct an Avengers movie?

    by TheWaqman

    I don't think so.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 8:56 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight = much much more enjoyable than Iron Man

    by TheWaqman

    Iron Man put a smile on my face....until he made the damn suit. That movie proved that it was all Downey Jr. Take him out and no amount of special effects could save that movie really. I would have preferred the movie to be "Tony Stark" rather than Iron Man. The Dark Knight however really didn't have many weak parts. Except for maybe Rachel Dawes all the characters brought alot to the table. And when you have a supporting cast that includes Gary Oldman and Michael Caine to name a few, well you can't really go wrong to be honest. Also, when Joker is upside down staring at Batman at the end, his monologue is so....Joker. The whole "We're destined to always fight." Thats what the Joker was. And in Alan Moore's Killing Joke he was known to use moral dillemas.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 9:11 p.m. CST

    The Avengers...

    by Henry_Krinkle_from_FairLawn

    requires a skilled director's hand, not mike from swingers

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 9:15 p.m. CST

    call me a queeve but i loved iron man

    by kamar

    the hulk hellboy 2 and the dark knight ... all of which had plenty of flaws but nonetheless made for a summer unlike any other in my lifetime of movies that mattered to ME. If my only memory of this summer had been Indy 4 i'd ask you kindly to lobotomize me. lucas should learn from these movies how not to fuck up a good idea.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Yeah Mike from Swingers sucks...

    by TheWaqman

    The ONLY good decision he made was to push Marvel into accepting Downey Jr. for Iron Man. But Marvel won't get Fincher. Hell I'm still shocked that Christopher Nolan (Memento) directed Batman Begins, I never thought he would make a comic book movie.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Loved Iron Man

    by robotdevil

    I can see why they cut this scene though. It doesn't really tell us anything we don't know.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST

    IM vs TDK

    by oisin5199

    Put me in the camp that says TDK is a better, richer film, but Iron Man was WAAY more fun and enjoyable. Iron Man brought out my inner comics loving child who was all about Marvel growing up. I had so much fun watching the movie - partly because I was at a fan pre-screening. So many scenes I was giddily laughing, clapping and cheering. TDK was an excellent film, but was just operating on a different level, and wasn't so much about the fun, as about, well, the suffering. I think both films did everything right in that they accomplished exactly what they set out to do (and I'd say Incredible Hulk falls into that category too). But the two are just two very different films in very different genres that just happen to feature a superhero as a main character.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 9:44 p.m. CST

    gee, I wonder why they cut that stuff?

    by Commander Rah

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 9:48 p.m. CST

    I don't know I still found The Dark Knight waaay more enjoyable

    by TheWaqman

    Chalk me up as the guy who was waiting for a good portrayal of the Joker. And after sitting through the shit that was Batman and Robin (while being a Batman fanboy then and still am) I'm so fucking grateful for Nolan. Iron Man was more fun, with all the jokes and Stark living it up and everything. But I enjoyed The Dark Knight much more. Opening night, going in with little to no spoilers. Man it was incredible. And the whole theatre cheered when the credits came up.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 9:56 p.m. CST

    hot coffee

    by repligin

    i heard theres a patch you can download for this dvd.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 10:08 p.m. CST

    We can all get along, right?

    by Juggernaut125

    <p>I loved both Iron Man AND TDK. They are actually the only two movies this summer that I have seen on the big screen twice (each). Movies cost too much nowadays for repeat viewings unless they are spectacularly awesome, and that's how I felt about both flicks.</p> <p>That being said, I disagree with ZeroCorpse, based upon my interpretation of TDK. The second movie is still a Batman story. His SECOND story. Bruce has faced the usual suspects of criminals until The Joker comes along. Someone so over-the-top nutso that he pushes Batman to the brink of giving it all up to save lives. And discovers that other Gothamites (Gordon and Dent, etc.) believe in what he is doing. In the end, TDK is about the reinforcement of Bruce's crusade to wear the Batsuit, even when, in the end it means making him a criminal vigilante.</p> <p>I don't see that as being a Bond story. Yes, he has a Q, but this serves as a much better way to explain where Batman's gadgets come from, rather than.. Bruce invented them himself. I mean... he's not Tondy Stark.</p> <p>From what I saw, he used both hand to hand combat AND his gadgets to fight the bad guys (and the good guys). That's just smart. </p> <p>I will agree that they don't show enough of Bruce being the detective. So, I don't have a counter-point for this arguement.</P>

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST

    TDK not overrated, but

    by chromedome

    almost not a Batman film at all. There is a lot wrong with the film if you watch it as a Batman film: Batman is a cardboard cutout background figure with a stupid voice.<p>Ledger's death had nothing to do with the evaluation of his superb performance--if NOT for his performance, it would have been a pretty dull film. BECAUSE of his performance, none of the other low-rent stuff matters. Bale phoned it in--so what? Ledger's Joker owned the screen and film in a way that surpassed the flaws of the film, nearly making them invisible, as the Joker is all you see, all you want to see....<p>As a whole film, Iron Man was better and more interesting. But for a performance, Ledger's Joker is untouchable.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 12:04 a.m. CST

    "I think we're destined to do this for a long time"

    by blindambition238

    In retrospect, the fact that it was Ledger's last performance sort of made his performance made it a bit more meaningful for me for some reason... like it made the whole endeavor seem that much more precious and made me appreciate it more. <p> That's not to say his force of nature performance still wouldn't of knocked me over with its sheer awesomeness, but it did make it more meaningful for me. Odd considering how sadistic it was...

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Wall-E > The Dark Knight > Iron Man

    by mefrog

    There you go, my top three films of the summer. I've already expressed my untamed love for Wall-E and defended TDK ferociously in other TBs, despite the minor flaws I see in the film. Iron Man was a great comic adaptation of a comic book. I don't think I'd rate in along the lines of X2, but I'd put it there with Spider-Man 2 (really the only one I liked of the series). It was still a great and enjoyable movie - I saw it twice and will buy it on DVD - but it can't match the complexity of Wall-E or TDK.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 12:17 a.m. CST

    And as for this clip...

    by mefrog

    ...yeah, unnecessary. Perhaps in context it would have worked a bit more but as a stand alone it doesn't really do much.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Nothing against Iron Man...

    by Kevin Bosch

    I loved it, and I get how a party in Dubai was supposed to be an alibi. But for the money that it cost to shoot this pretty pointless and ultimately unnecessary scene, I could've shot a decent low budget feature, or at the very least paid off my mom's house.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Wall-E Sucks Robot Dick

    by Akira Cowabunga

    Iron Man was more fun, Dark Knight was almost as good, but not quite. Extremely flawed story. Not sure why it's getting as much praise as it is. It's a very good movie, but there are so many plot holes. Bale is boring as hell as the Batman, but Ledger makes up for it with his bravura performance. Now you all go fuck off, ya hear?

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 2:57 a.m. CST

    Iron Man? I've already forgotten it...

    by The Grug

    I'm pretty sure I enjoyed it at the time, but I couldn't tell you what happened in it. Just forgettable summer fluff.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 3:02 a.m. CST

    That cover is awful.

    by TheGoddamnSiege

    You'd think with the film being the box office smash that it was, they could spring for a BluRay cover that doesn't look like it was made by a high school student using a freeware Photoshop knock off.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 3:30 a.m. CST

    COMPLETELY worthless scene...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Thank goodness they dropped this 3-minute "dead zone." What was the point of it?<p>Oh, and yes... that apparent DVD cover for the film IS terrible. Looks like it's for Marvel's animated version of Iron Man. Try using the movie poster art, so people know what they're actually buying.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 3:37 a.m. CST

    And Wall-E remains THE most SUCKTACULAR film...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    I've seen all summer. An astoundingly boring, clumsily preachy, yet technically beautiful cartoon that LITERALLY put me to sleep while watching it. NOT a good sign.<p>And can someone PLEASE explain to me why Eva — whose mission was to discover if life had re-sprung on Earth and preserve it — was equipped with a laser blaster and tried to DESTROY anything that moved, once she was on the planet???<p>Little details like that tend to keep me from enjoying a movie.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Wheres the hulks footage

    by therealwebby

    That was pointless now where's the extra footage from the hulk we were promised eh!!!!

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 6 a.m. CST

    Never intended to be in the movie

    by Diagnostic

    Favs just wanted some hawties around.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Lame

    by kafka07

    This is the kind of crap they're offering if you dish out the extra cash for the so called ultimate edition?? Using the word "ultimate" instead of "special" will not make this edition suck any less. To be fair, the movie itself is fine, but the extras on this are looking bad. Lucky for them, this scene was not exposed until long after the movie's theatrical release.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Once again... the Talkbackers show...

    by Drafthouse_Slave

    ... just how freakin' ignorant they are. Iron man was dead on. Played to perfection by Downey. The movie was the perfect kicking off point to what will likely be a hugely successful franchise. I can see those sequels pulling in amazing numbewrs. WALL-E, anyone who hated this movie knows absolutely NOTHING about film making, so that would be 99% of the fools who post here. That film is pure film making from start to finish. Was not bogged down by stupid, mindless dialogue. Beautifully put together and I'm not surprised it hasn't made as much as some would have expected... it's a REAL movie. The Dark Knight, with minor flaws (the over-exaggerated gravelly voice of Bale to be my only distraction) was still a fantastic crime drama. Taske away the Batsuit and the Joker make-up and you still had a great movie. The gadgets in no way bogged the film down. To his credit, Nolan has created a Batman that DOES use his fists and the gadgets are a supplement to that (The Sonar use in the building during the fight with the Joker's men/Cops). Ledger's Joker is a complete anarchist with NO conscience and no remorse. He brought his A game to the role and had he not died, he'd still be being praised because he was amazing in it. I saw the preview last year at Wizard World Chucago. The Panel with Bale, Oldman, Eckhart and the Nolan's and when the footage rolled, I knew we wwre getting something special from Ledger. His death, yes, made people morbidly curious, but the film is bringing in numbers that haven't been seen in a long, long time and the truth is, if it wasn't a good movie, the curiosity of seeing a deadman play his last role would have died down by now. It's legs are because it's a good movie.Titanic's legs were the teenage girls flocking to see Leo over and over again.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Wall-E was pure cinema.

    by rbatty024

    It was a truly great film and arguably Pixar's finest to date. So many directors fail to realize that cinema is a visual art, and then they dumb down their story with too much on the nose dialogue. <p> Oddly enough, that was one of my nitpicks with The Dark Knight. There were too many monologues telegraphing the themes. At times it was a bit heavy handed. The first film was a little better at dealing with similar themes without hitting the audience on the head with them. Of course the second film is better in almost every way. Nolan sometimes uses his script as a crutch. <p> Iron Man was great entertainment. While it wasn't a better film than TDK, it was a lot more fun. Robert Downy Junior owned that role, and Favreau showed he wasn't just a one hit wonder. I would nominate him for an Avengers flick.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Why bother saying IM or DK is better?

    by WhoDis

    I'm buying both when they come out on DVD, both are awesome movies in their own ways.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Seriously folks...

    by robotdevil

    It's not like IM and DK are sports teams where you have to pick one and root against the other. You all do realize you can like both... right?

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Liked Iron Man, Loved Dark knight

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    Different movies. But Dark Knight is the kind of movie you watch and go "I want to make movies some day." while Iron Man is the kind of movie where you go "I can totally make movies some day." I know that sounds like a hit, but it's not. looking forward to both sequels. Also, i haven't seen a movie more than once in the theater in a long time (too broke to consider it) but I've seen Dark knight twice and will prob sneak into it again the next time I hit the theater.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Is this the 'Goat-Boy edited version'?

    by pokadoo

    Bill Hicks would have wanted it this way.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    I agree with yous guys

    by pokadoo

    I liked both movies. It's ok to like 2 diffrent films, you get more enjoyment out of cinema that way! Wall E was great too. People used to say E.T. was shit too when it came out, only because they were ashamed they had a lump in their throat & sweaty man-tear eyes after watching it.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Isn't alcohol illegal in Dubai?

    by fiester

    So why would Tony Stark want a place there?

  • Aug. 16, 2008, noon CST

    I bought the Iron Man Threesome Playset at Target

    by Iowa Snot Client

    Extra bikini model action figures sold separately.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Alcohol isn't illegal in Dubai

    by Chewtoy

    The sale of it is somewhat more restricted than some other countries. You're also not allowed to drink in the street or public places that don't serve alcohol. That wouldn't stop anyone from serving alcohol at their home, though.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 12:33 p.m. CST

    An open letter to Dark Knight super-fans

    by Chewtoy

    Calm the fuck down. The movie doesn't need your tireless support. It's a hit. Relax and stop bringing it up at every opportunity.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    TDK=BORING

    by Earthquake WestCoast

    TDK was really slow. Batman Begins was far superior. IRON MAN was more fun and exciting than TDK. I don't understand why all you TDK fanboys are acting like "preteen screaming schoolgirls at a Hannah Montana concert!". I'd take THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, RETURN OF THE KING, most films from JAMES CAMERON, and THE INCREDIBLES any day over TDK.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    I'm sitting here in shock

    by the podosphere

    because I actually agree with ZeroCorpse about TDK.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    THE DARK KNIGHT and IRON MAN - arguably best superhero flicks of

    by JDanielP

    Neither is perfect. Neither is flawless. But with Hollywood, these flicks are about as close as it gets to true greatness (within the genre). I enjoyed the hell out of both. -Only wished for a pinch more visual artistry for TDK (while still holding on to that life-like feel)...and more climatic power in the IRON MAN flick, within the story and the visual/special effects.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    ...arguably best superhero flicks of ALL TIME.

    by JDanielP

    Don't you hate it when you can't finish a sentence?

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Just saw Iron Man again today

    by Larry Sellers

    It's pretty fun, easy to swallow, formulaic. RDJ and Bridges hold it together while Paltrow and Howard are wasted. RDJ really made it enjoyable for me, and if his bragging is any indication he contributed more to the film than acting. Any other actor would have made it a whole lot more underwhelming, but it was still a good film! COMPLETELY different from TDK. TDK is better cast, written, and tells a more interesting story...but like someone above said it lacked a comic book splash that Iron Man and Hulk had in spades. But it didn't need it to sell Batman because Begins shook off that image. They're both really, really well made films and Hulk exceeded my expectations as well. Iron Man and TDK are pretty good examples of how truly different DC and Marvel really are and how they can still manage to produce exceptional stories and characters. How can you choose one over the other when there's so much to be enjoyed about each one?

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST

    watch it while playing with a beat music on.

    by Se7en

    Scene works much better.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 7:36 p.m. CST

    DK is better but not enjoyable than IM

    by chien_sale

    let's get real here.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 7:36 p.m. CST

    I meant "not more enjoyable"

    by chien_sale

    gergergtrh

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 8:17 p.m. CST

    TDK, Iron Man, Hellboy & the Hulk...

    by DeeJay

    ... was an unforgetable slate of comic book films, this summer. Though I tend to lean in favor of Marvel products, I give the Dark Knight my vote for the top film in the pack. Iron Man, however, get the prize for the strongest performance by a lead/hero.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 8:38 p.m. CST

    How did he get the armor on there in Dubai?

    by DennisMM

    We know that he needs the gimbal and waldos just to get into and out of the armor. The whole process is computerized, operated via an interface with Jarvis, Stark's household AI. I find it difficult to believe that he managed to pack the hardware for the trip over and make it look like a whim. The scene is a decent way to explain his reaching Dubai quickly but doesn't hold up. (Those who mention the need for a "recharge" on the way to Dubai - in the movie the armor is powered by Stark's chest-mounted arc reactor. Theoretically, the reactor could power the armor for "an eternity," if I recall the dialogue correctly. Given this, Tony might have been able to go very high, nearly past the atmosphere and make a ballistic-trajectory approach to the terrorists' base. Just a passing thought.)

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Pointless and *unlikeable* Arrogance

    by RockMSockM

    This scene was CORRECTLY left on the cutting room floor. It offers nothing to the viewer except for the counter-productive effect of making Tony Stark look like an unlikeable ass, as opposed to a "lovable" playboy. Good call, editors.

  • Aug. 17, 2008, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Deleted for a reason

    by The Sliver

    It's purpose is unclear until the very end--so for three loooong minutes you're just bored.

  • Aug. 17, 2008, 3:39 a.m. CST

    What was the point of that.

    by Cotton McKnight

    Seriously? What was the point? Anyway, I don't count TDK or Hellboy as "comic book movies" because the both transcend that narrow genre. Those movies are classics. But the rest, I would rank The incredible hulk first, iron man second, and whatever else came this summer third. Hancock?

  • Aug. 17, 2008, 5:44 a.m. CST

    liked the howard hughes -y hand gel - otherwise meh

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 17, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST

    and now we know...

    by jimbubble

    the reasons why they cut this pointless scene. Why oh why then offer it up online,as these are scenes that deserve to lie on the cutting room floor! Just wanking material for the fanboys!

  • Aug. 17, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    It features the Joker in it?

    by Vesuvio

    No? Sorry, not interested.

  • Aug. 17, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Why Couldn't Tony & Tony....

    by Annie The Pod Racer

    greet each other like old friends & trade misdelivered mail that was meant for the other Tony? That would of been a barrel!!!

  • Aug. 17, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    I don't need to know how he got the middle east

    by WolfmanNards

    The movie sets up the premise that he is resourceful, so the minor details are unimportant to me. To complain about the lack of explanation as to how he showed up in the middle east would be the same as complaining that it would be impossible to make an iron man suit to begin with.

  • Aug. 17, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Ghostface Killah's first album

    by Broseph

    Named Iron Man is a true hip hop classic.to bad he wasn't put ack in he movie.other then 3 hot asses that scene was pointless

  • Aug. 18, 2008, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Note to MARVEL:

    by Mr Gorilla

    Watching this clip has put me off buying the movie. Think I'll wait until it's on the telly.

  • Aug. 18, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    glad that scene got cut

    by StovetopStuffin'

    now if only someone had told Paltrow that she was in a good movie, she might have tried acting a little. What is it with the girls not taking the comic book movies seriously. The best one was Dunst in spidey 1 and 2. but she dropped the ball on 3.