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These Do-Gooders Have Gone Full Retard! Free Speech Is Under Attack!

Hey folks, Harry here - I love comedy & satire - moreso I love how throughout history comedians and satirists are continually lined up against the walls, offered a last cigarette and then machine-gunned with the stupid demands of reactionary do-gooders without one iota of a sense of humor. What has my ire up today? Well, a series of Disability Advocacy Groups has decided to attack TROPIC THUNDER for the character of "Simple Jack" - a hilarious send up of - oddly not mentally handicapped citizens, but the actors that use those with mental handicaps to Oscar bait their way into getting their golden trophy. Well, Stiller's character is an action star that attempts to "get his Oscar" and gets nailed for it. The world turns on his character - and suddenly he finds his entire career at risk. The humor isn't so much at the sake of the mentally handicap, but at how bad Ben Stiller's Character is at bringing it to life. Well about a week ago Paramount was assaulted by do-gooder groups that decided to meet with the head of PARAMOUNT to get SimpleJackMovie.com and all references to SIMPLE JACK on TuggSpeedman.Com removed. Now the problem was PARAMOUNT did something that they never should have done. They actually removed the references from the "offending" websites. If you give these bastards an inch, they'll take a mile. Nevermind the fact that a lot of the very powerful families behind this movement are amongst the biggest and most powerful Liberal families that purport to support free speech. They're trying to target specifically Robert Downey Jr's brilliant "Full Retard" observation for removal from the film itself. They're trying to label the sequence as HATE SPEECH - nevermind that the monologue in question isn't about anyone with an actual handicap. Nevermind that it's about the technique that an actor must use in portraying those with mental handicaps and where the point is - where the actor ceases to be considered positively, and is just hated. The monologue is a brilliant observation and criticism on the history of modern film portrayals of the mentally handicap. It is a moment where one actor is advising another on why his character was hated, while others were loved and rewarded. It actually has nothing to do with anyone that has ever actually had a mental disorder - unless you count acting as a mental disorder - which I think we can all agree actors are nothing but a breed of goofy bastards. TROPIC THUNDER is a hilarious send up of Hollywood and its practices. Ok - now I'm trying to justify what Ben Stiller did in this film and in the writing of the film. Fact is - Ben Stiller doesn't need anybody's permission. Ben Stiller is a fucking American - and in this country - an artist, comedian and satirist has the ability to make fun of anything he or she bloody wants and YOU the audience has the right to laugh or not. The fact is - TROPIC THUNDER is fucking funny. It's real fucking funny. Now the good news is this - I've spoken with Paramount and Dreamworks about this - and despite the bellyaching of these various do-gooders - they're not touching a frame of the film. What we screened here in Austin, what you folks at Comic Con saw.... that's the film that's getting released. And if you're a member of these groups and you're thinking of protesting this film, of going to Congress to tear at this film - you really should watch the entire film. The mistake that PARAMOUNT / DREAMWORKS made was in clipping the scenes out of context. You found yourself reacting to something you haven't the context for. There is a plot twist where the character of SIMPLE JACK actually saves Ben Stiller's life. Because some people found the portrayal touching. Someone out there embraced the character - just as we've all understood and respected someone with a mental handicap. There's a lot of groups out there that grotesquely overreact to situations because they react to a moment that they can't conceive of the context, much less care to see the context. These people have tried to shut any number of films down in the past. They've all seemed silly at the end of the day. Personally - I was expecting the NAACP to get pissed at this film, but apparently they've grown a healthy sense of humor. Now - if only they'd cut that size-ist unfunny hate crime bullshit that Jack Black pulls in the film. He seems to portray us fatassed bastards as nothing but people that sit around stuffing our faces and farting at each other. It's not true... ok, well it is only mainly true. Dammit, it's true, that's all I do. Stuff my face and fart. Here's a statement from Dreamworks on this whole affair...

STATEMENT FROM DREAMWORKS STUDIOS REGARDING ‘TROPIC THUNDER’ AND THE STUDIO’S ONGOING DISCUSSIONS WITH DISABILITY ADVOCACY GROUPS “’Tropic Thunder’ is an R-rated comedy that satirizes Hollywood and its excesses, and makes its point by featuring inappropriate and over-the top characters in ridiculous situations. The film is in no way meant to disparage or harm the image of individuals with disabilities.” “We have had productive discussions with representatives of disability advocacy organizations and look forward to working with them closely in the future. However no changes or cuts to the film will be made.” -Chip Sullivan DreamWorks Studios spokesperson

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  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Good, no cuts

    by Charlie Murphy

    that's all i needed to know.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:13 p.m. CST

    although free speech about allah, muslims and the koran

    by Mr_X

    will have you --//\/\/\/\ carrier signal lost.../\/\/\\\/\/\----

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Just for that shit you tried to pull Do-Gooders...

    by smackfu

    I've decided to increase my usage of the word 'retard' by 300%. My goal is to bring it back as a commonplace word that is used daily by everyone. Retards.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    the world has gone to P.C

    by harrisonfnord

    there s too much emphasiss on pc these days. the world is a worse place for it

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST

    This is what happens

    by jvblhc

    When they first started legislating against "hate speech" (and who defines what that is, anyway?), it was inevitable it would lead to stuff like this.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    I dont have much to add

    by Mezzanine

    to what Harry said other than the fact that these people must be a bunch of fucking retards.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Fucking PC do gooders

    by photoboy

    Downey Jr fully blacked will be in their sights next.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    yay! go hollywood

    by princess432

    give them an inch is right on. Don't do it. a great short to lift up your spirits:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSuEhu6Elxc

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Free Speech is under attack in the Script Girl TB too....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Only a "retarded

    by DougMcKenzie

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Do-gooders is the wrong word

    by TroutMaskReplicant

    It suggests they might actually be doing good. Where I come from they call them busy-bodies but meddlers would be good too. I imagine said parties haven't seen the film?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:36 p.m. CST

    It's bad on both sides.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    Can't just lump anti-free-speechers to the right or to the left. The sad fact is that the extremists of any political leaning want to get rid of speech, and to them I say "You can suck my big fat cock you retard extremist bastards!" <p> And don't you fucking touch my internet you infantile cum-buckets! </p>

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    I agree Harry

    by JimBobCooter

    While I do think it's in poor taste to belittle those who cannot defend themselves... I agree that we are in America and the market can decide. Society absolutely has a right to look out for the less fortunate, but the whole point of a ratings system is to make sure adults (i.e. discerning people who get the joke) can watch. <p> Paramount and DreamWorks did the right thing. And it was ballsy to do, too. So yeah for America!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Of Course As You Can See...

    by TroutMaskReplicant

    The mere mention of the phrase P.C. in Harry's article has brought out the right wing nutjobs. I'm going to bed.

  • to make him "white" again so its not offensive to the african americans.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST

    At least

    by Magma Suit

    RDJ's role is getting by with a minimum of flack. I think that's a good sign for this country. RETARDRETARDRETARDRETARD

  • dammit.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Thank god no cuts

    by SpencerTrilby

    it doesn't change the fact that Stiller + Cruise + Downey means rental to me, but I'm glad the studio grew some balls for once. The lobbies and pressure groups totally lost their cred by focusing on art instead of pointing out the REAL segregation, be it in school, sport, medias or work. Way to alienate good-willed people keen on making a change. Dumbasses.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST

    I'm a Mormon

    by krushjudgement

    And I fully support free speech. 100%- Censorship offends me.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    These groups are using

    by Turd Furgeson

    terms like "Political Correctness" to undermine the constitution and actually control what people can say or write. They hide behind their 501c3 status, pass judgement at guys like Ben Stiller, and demand his first amendment rights infringed upon because they have no sense of humor and no understanding of the constitution whatsoever. If something offends you, don't read it, don't watch it, don't listen to it. That is your right. Our right is to watch this movie, in context, and make our own decisions about its' moral compass. The United States is being over run by the Neo-Liberals/marksists, we have to start standing up for free speech. If we don't, eventually sites like this will be taken down because the word "Fuck" will offend someone. Get involved in the process everyone, take your country back, please. I don't want to end up like our friends across the pond.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    FUCK PC! FUCK IT!!!

    by spud mcspud

    It's wrecking the USA just like it's wrecking my beloved UK. Do NOT give an inch to it. Free speech is the most important freedom there is - without it, there can be no questioning of anything. And a true patriot will ALWAYS question their government and elected leaders.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Josh Brolin

    by Sparhawk38

    I don't think it is fair to slam stars playing the mentally handicapped until we have seen Brolin play "W." for ourselves.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:50 p.m. CST

    good job harry

    by ddog

    great speech harry !!! feel the same way. hate people that get offended so easily and want everyone to be so politically correct. is there a specific reason why most people have no backbone and get offended at such things as now in tropic thunder ? i mean granted some of us expected it to happen cuz of downey jr being black face and all. its just irritating to me that we live in a place where its expected. you think if they didnt like it they would simply do a bigger injustice and not buy a ticket to the show. i mean who goes to the movies not knowing what its about? sometimes i think these people have it planned ahead of time for publicity or some quota they must achieve. im so for being politically incorrect and utilizing our rights at free speech and see no reason why when its used its then taken away by people like that. . . . once again. good job harry for speakin your part in this "issue"

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST

    sparhawk38

    by ddog

    I don't think it is fair to slam stars playing the mentally handicapped until we have seen Brolin play "W." for ourselves. thats hilarious man.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Has the gastric band has cut off Harry's irony valve

    by palimpsest

    See the ScriptGirl TB for details...

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST

    There's a difference between being un-p.c. and just being an ass

    by terry1978

    Most people can't seem to differentiate though.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST

    If we can't make fun of retards...

    by fiester

    ...then the retards win. And the whole world becomes one big Special Olympics. Which, come to think of it, is a lot like the internet.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    oh, and can we have an 'edit' button?

    by palimpsest

    Purleeze? I'll tidy my room, I swear.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Fuck these cunts up their stupid as fuck asses...

    by Dr_Zoidberg

    Unfortunately the people that help and often volunteer to help those with a disability are also often self-righteous assholes. Does their good deeds balance out their assholiness? Probably. But it doesn't make them any less moronic and I can call them stupid cunts all day long. But I still respect what they do because it's not easy, especially helping people with mental disabilities. But free speech works both ways and they can campaign all they want, and I'll ignore all their shite. Because I can.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Did they go after Something About Mary also?

    by mrfan

    I laughed my ass off at the scene where Matt Dillon talks about all the work he is doing with retards, how they got Mongo on a leash with a clothesline, and Mary's brothers antics.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:15 p.m. CST

    This is not a matter of free speech

    by EyeofPolyphemus

    The first amendment only guarantees the government cannot censor what you say. this is a matter of private citizens or groups exercising their free speech to have something they consider offensive removed. paramount has the right to remove the offensive material or not. <p> This incident is actually quite healthy. all parties had their say and a compromise was reached. There was no censoring. I do not see why anyone is getting worked up about it. It all worked out exactly like it is supposed to.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:16 p.m. CST

    NO EDIT BUTTON!

    by DocPazuzu

    It would be the end of talkback.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Scumbags!

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Fuck these people .. What a bunch of tightasses. Makes me sick. Sick, I say!!!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Pressure group gets publicity...

    by palimpsest

    Film gets publicity. Everybody happy.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:23 p.m. CST

    IS A "SATIRICAL" COMEDY MADE FOR THE SAKE OF PROFIT

    by BringingSexyBack

    worth the humiliation, hurt, insult, and offense wrought upon mentally-handicapped people? <p> Do you really need to laugh at their expense? <p> Does having such a laugh outweigh the dignity of the less fortunate people who must suffer for your entertainment? <p> Is this really a free speech issue, or is it a moral issue? <p>

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Good on YOU Mates.

    by Evil Chicken

    “Political correctness is the death to humor.” – Mel Brooks. Don't change a thing - LET FLY!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:26 p.m. CST

    OKAY - PEOPLE WHO HELP DISABLED PEOPLE ARE STUPID CUNTS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Got it. Who says you can't learn something new every day?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST

    As a liberal, I find talk of a Voight blacklist absolutely disgu

    by IndustryKiller!

    if you want Jon Voight for your film because hes good for a character, fucking hire him. And if you don't because of his commentary, then you are the unpatriotic asshole. I'm a liberal who thinks what he wrote about barack Obama is ridiculous, but you know how I take it? As an out of touch old guy and his misguided rantings and it has no effect on how I see him or will ever see him on film. he's an actor, not a politician. He's not putting in place any policies, writing any laws, or starting any wars. Just like George Clooney nor Alec Baldwin are on the other side of the spectrum. And anyone who wouldn't see one of their films because of a political bias frankly doesn't deserve to enjoy the art form. They have every right to speak their minds in whatever fashion they feel like given that they are taxpaying American citizens, and I could understand how anyone with passion and a voice that could be heard, may feel an obligation to do so. I'm so sick of the fucking human jokes who go around being offended for the sake of nothing more than giving their pathetic lives a modicum of excitement. You don't like what Jon Voight or the Dixie Chicks or whoever are saying? Step up to the fucking plate and offer a counter argument or wallow in your insignificance with your boycotts and blacklists. If you don't like that your voice isn't as loud as theirs, blame the silly American society that deifies celebrity above everything else rather than the performer, who has no more obligation to shut up and sing or act than you do to shut up and file accounting reports or whatever the fuck you do.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST

    "absolutely disgusting" that should have read

    by IndustryKiller!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:31 p.m. CST

    I hate people that overreact to free speech!

    by ChocolateReignWasBanned

    I'm off to write some fan-fic about busty half-asians and the fecal matter that is often hilariously finding it's way to their chests. Ta!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Jonathan Violence, Danny, johnnyjlawless

    by Herb West

    No shit. How many people have been banned by now? 7 or 8?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Do you know what would have been cool?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    An AICN article and Talkback on the recent USA Today photos taken from THE ROAD. That's some serious movie news that flew right past this site. I find it strange that there has been nary a word of coverage on the film here.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:35 p.m. CST

    They're LIBERALS...what do you expect

    by rutan07

    Seriously, the Fairness docturine, silencing any scientist who has misgivings about man-made Global Warming, the list is huge. Liberals only believe in freedom of speech as long as that freedom protects them and their interests. Anything else has to go including satrical send ups that aren't hate speech at all.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:36 p.m. CST

    what the hell

    by antonphd

    these groups aren't run by mentally disabled people... they aren't speaking for mentally disabled people... they are probably related to a mentally disabled person and they are over sensitive about it all... all of the mentally disabled people I have known in my life from being a foster kid to church and community centers and school... they laugh their asses off as often as they can... they don't want to be rejected or hated, but if it's just good fun then they are laughing too... just like everyone else... you can laugh at something funny that a mentally retarded person does and they'll laugh with you as long as they know you aren't shitting on them... just like all people. It's the superiority propaganda mockery that is fucked up and it's easy to see from this film that it is not that kind of movie. And I bet half these people love to watch Curb Your Enthusiasm but they aren't mentioning that.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:37 p.m. CST

    EyeofPolyphemus

    by Xiphos_2

    That was a reasoned and well written post. Thank you you for that.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST

    rutan07

    by antonphd

    I don't know a single liberal who is the way you just described. Not a single one. And I expect that you don't either.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Banning folks?

    by HEADGEEK

    I don't read the Script Girl talkbacks - haven't a clue what happened. BUT - we do have a policy about pissing on our carpet here. We don't tolerate actual HATE-SPEECH. The point of this editorial is that Tropic Thunder is not HATEFUL in anyway. Some talkbackers, I, sadly, can't say the same for. They're sometimes just hateful.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:42 p.m. CST

    And then you guys guys lowering the discourse like Rutan

    by IndustryKiller!

    Who just spits pod people like invective rather than actually making a point. Congratulation Rutan on the douche bag of the talkback so far award. In a political talkback on AICN that's a real feat

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:44 p.m. CST

    To paraquote Starship Troopers 3...

    by Alientoast

    "People can say what they like, as long as they do it alone"

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Lame

    by mcwheels

    As an individual who is physically disabled from having muscular dystrophy his whole life, perhaps my perspective is valid in this case. This kind of thing really pisses me off, because when advocacy groups like this get all bent out of shape about something in the media, it just ends up giving more attention to the media in question (all press is good press) and pissing everyone else off at the group in question. In this case it is even more infuriating because the film is not making fun of the mentally handicapped per se, but making fun of those who use the suffering of the mentally handicapped for their own financial or social gains as actors in hollywood. So here you have a great piece of satire which is funny because it's well written and performed which would only create more open discussion and thought about the treatment of the disabled in general. For the most part I'm of the opinion that any presentation or discussion of the disabled (mentally or physically) community in pop culture, whether "politically correct" or not, is a good thing. The fact that most disabled people are overwhelmingly ignored or unrepresented in pop culture is the biggest thing hurting our community, because the unknown is always what we fear the most. If there was a movie that's main comedic premise was torturing the disabled for laughs that would be a different argument all together, but in general we all need to realize that nothing is sacred and everyone is worth being satirized and stop taking ourselves so seriously.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:46 p.m. CST

    @terry1978 and EyeofPolyphemus

    by Handiana Jolo

    Thanks. You both made the points I was going to make, and in a more succinct fashion than I am capable of. Thank God there is still some reason left on the talkbacks.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST

    if you don't like this, don't vote Obama...

    by blue1622

    did you know online speech throughout most of the EU is censored by strictly enforced/loosely interpreted "hate speech" laws. The US is one of the last holdouts to protect such speech, but many on the left would love to see this instituted here, in the interest of supporting protected class minorities. Me? I'm reluctantly voting McCain, as I enjoy the precious freedom to hate on Scientology, hadicapped activists, and make MoonMan sites on ytmnd.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    EyeofPolyphemus FTW.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Well said.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    It'd help if you stopped using the phrase "handicap" you twat...

    by Mr Chuff

    Go look up its origin dick-feeler...

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Making fun of the disabled

    by Rustle

    Or actors playing the disabled.. Harry you can't expect retards to get that kind of subtlety..

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    The R-Word

    by pjvance1973

    I think it's a good thing when a minority speaks up about something that bothers them - it helps make other people aware of when they are doing something hurtful. Some people compare the r-word to the n-word - in some ways this is a fair comparison, but in some ways it's even worse - as the r-word is a disparaging term used against a group of people who literally cannot defend themselves. It is even frequently used against people who do not have anything mentally wrong with them, but are unable to communicate effectively due to their disability. I would also disagree with characterizing this as a liberal vs. conservative issue - I have met many people with disabilities from all over the political spectrum, and to a man they will tell you that this is the most hateful, hurtful word that is, sadly, still used against them frequently. Because most able-bodied and able-minded people think it's ok. In the transcripts I've read, the places where the term is used don't seem to have any humor value apart from the fact that that term is used in them -- without it, it's not funny. By that metric, with the word present, it's still not funny. It's just the strong mocking the weak - and no matter how you choose to dress that up, that's not something we should aspire to as human beings. Anyone who thinks that it's ok - I suggest you try replacing term with the n-word, and see if you still think it's ok - if you do, then fine - that's your right. If you don't - then it really wasn't funny in the first place, was it?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:53 p.m. CST

    What EyeofPolyphemus said

    by chrth

    Don't let No Man screw you around

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Harry

    by Herb West

    I can honestly say that none of it was HATE-SPEECH. Somebody is just got an itchy trigger finger over there when it comes to banning people today.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:55 p.m. CST

    read the Script Girl TB Harry

    by kungfuhustler84

    it's ugly stuff you should probably know about, and it's the same stupid shit every week.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:01 p.m. CST

    You ought to just do away with Scriptgirl

    by fiester

    Seriously. It's not worth it. She can post her junk on youtube and those who want can see it there.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Kate Winslet made the same type of speech

    by SID 8.0

    on "Extras" first season. She was talking about the best way to win awards. She was playing a nun at the time.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Another simple minded view of freedom of speech

    by The Funketeer

    This isn't a freedom of speech issue. No one is denying Paramount the right to say what they want. Paramount chose to remove the references from the web and if they come out of the movie it will once again be Paramount's choice. Harry, no one is forcing them to do anything. Only the government has the potential power to restrict speech. And really, when you think about it, what you're doing right now is no different than what the "do gooder" groups are doing to Paramount. They have opinions and a right to express them. It's sad that you can get this worked up over a couple of retard jokes being taken out a dumb comedy but Polanski gets a moral pass from the site even though his crimes (and they were actual crimes) were far more heinous.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Is Harry's "Clone Wars" review an example of hate speech?

    by fiester

    Cuz, man, there's a lotta hate in that review. Will he get banned?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:34 p.m. CST

    I love freedom

    by Perceptor

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Oh, and my new catch-phrase will be....

    by fiester

    "Best cut it out or I'mma go FULL-RETARD on yo' ass!"

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:36 p.m. CST

    I thought the title of this article was sarcasm...

    by Feral Aristocrat

    ...and it was going to be Harry's response justifying the pyre of usernames over at SG! As one of the banned, I'll take my medicine, but as a number of us said over there, let's have some clear rules around this place.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:39 p.m. CST

    I love freedom

    by Perceptor

    There should be a common sense test that every American has to take before they are aloud to enact their freedoms because I guarantee you that "Do Gooders" that like to infringe on everyone elses freedom, not just limited to speech, would fail such tests and allow the rest of the country to move like a well oiled machine. Of course such a test would itself be unconstitutional but hey, if they can enforce their idea of what's okay on others and say it's constitutional then what's the difference.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Perceptor: You'd obviously fail the test.

    by chrth

    I recommend reading EyeofPolyphemus' and The Funketeer's posts.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:45 p.m. CST

    IT DOESN'T OCCUR TO ANYONE THAT THESE ADVOCATES OF THE DISABLED

    by BringingSexyBack

    could be Conservative and not Liberal? Well, can't it occurred to me either.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    THAT

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:48 p.m. CST

    THAT'S "CAN'T SAY IT OCCURRED TO ME"

    by BringingSexyBack

    Fuck me I'm typing in the dark

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Capn' Jack finally banned. Good!

    by Mavra Chang

    And a rule list is being formed. About time for both.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:49 p.m. CST

    WHO WATCHES THE WATCHMEN?

    by ChocolateReignWasBanned

    And by that I mean I wonder who's modding the Script Girl talkback where Pondscum, ChocolateReign, monster2Bpitied, WeinerPenis, NukedMyFridge and VolatileMix were all banned in a period of less than 24 hours? A lot of people over there, people that visit this place frequently think that person has some 'splaining to do...

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Moderation be gettin' draconian up in this bitch.

    by F-18

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:16 p.m. CST

    ARE YOU GUYS WATCHING WOMEN'S GYMNASTICS WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN?

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:16 p.m. CST

    good! fuck these do-gooder assholes

    by GLENN_THE_TOOL

    i hate people who say "I'm all for freedom of speech, BUT..." if you're for free speech, then there is not BUT. and when it comes to comedy and satire, that becomes essential, because comedy is about pushing the envelope and going beyond boundaries.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:16 p.m. CST

    I hate PC NAZI's!!!

    by andrew coleman

    Fuck these people they don't live in reality. I've never heard of a group more needing to die then people like this. Yes I said it. I hate people who try and curb free speech because it might "hurt feeling". Fuck you I'll hurt your face.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:18 p.m. CST

    BSB: You're the one using the computer in the dark

    by chrth

    Just saying, buddy.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST

    CHRTH, YACKSTER

    by BringingSexyBack

    I was typing in the dark before cuz we were watching The Bucket List with my in-laws ... and I must say: no one does off-screen-letter-reading than Morgan Freeman. He made me cry ... but nothing lifts my spirits more than women's gymnastics!!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:33 p.m. CST

    YACK

    by BringingSexyBack

    All I'll say is one of my all-time favorite comedies was Everyone Loves Raymond, and that show never once had to shit on minorities or mentally-disabled for a laugh. So all I'm saying is it takes real talent to pull off the funny without having to demean the disadvantaged, something Ben Stiller and his ilk are obviously incapable of.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Bravo pjvance1973!!!

    by antibody

    First of all, I agree this is not a censorship issue -- it has nothing to do with the government. This film studio has the right to say whatever it wants. And this advocacy group has the to right to say whatever they want. Still I just want to take the occasion to encourage you guys to think beyond yourselves every once in awhile. "Somebody wants to keep me from laughing at somebody less fortunate than me -- boo hoo." Do you really think you're so special that you deserve to laugh at whomever you want -- regardless of how much you're devaluing other human beings??? I have a nine year old son with Down's Syndrome who is a delightful young man. He is also a cool geek-in-training [He considers Ep. 5 the best of the Star Wars films; he thinks the Incredibles is the best Pixar film; Star Trek TNG is his favorite TV show; and he listens to TMBG (both their kids and adult stuff) regularly]. It really sucks that he happens to have been born with an extra chromosome that makes him learn things at a slower pace than a typical person. Therefore it feels like a slap in the face any time I hear the "R-word" used in casual conversation. It's a cruel and hurtful word. The shame of it is that my son's got such a good heart -- he would never even think to use equally hateful words to describe jerks who think its okay to be offensive as long as it's wrapped in "humor".

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Chilli?

    by Godovhellfire

    They all had chilli for lunch!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:58 p.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by BadMrWonka

    and all I'm saying is that Everyone Loves Raymond is not really all that funny. it's palatable to a lot of people, hence its success, but that's not a true measure of success when looking at comedy as an art form. otherwise that piece of trash "I kissed a girl" song would sweep the grammys this year. <p>to be truly side-splittingly funny, I think you have to push the boundaries a little bit. <p>this is why The Family Circus has been in syndication forever, but no one really likes it. I, in fact, am offended my it's unfunniness. Raymond I got a chuckle out of at least.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:03 p.m. CST

    holy shit

    by BadMrWonka

    as a creative writing major, and former writing teacher, that last sentence I wrote offends me deeply. jesus it's ugly!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Don't get me wrong, I love retards

    by smackfu

    But all that 'retard strength' makes them a bit grissley, so it's best to slow marinate them.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Liberals

    by Wrath4771

    That's what I love about Liberals - free speech is good as long as you agree with them and/or are politically correct. You know what? As a Republican I find retards, gays, and cripples funny. Sue me. I think the Liberals should just be happy that the "quota" of "mentally handicaps" was met. Now tell us how drilling off the coasts for 1-3 million barrels of oil a day will do us no good, but suspending 70,000 barells a day in the Strategic Reserve will make everything all better. Then go worship at the Temple of Obama.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:28 p.m. CST

    BADMRWONKA, YACK

    by BringingSexyBack

    I'm no Puritan as I'm an avid XM Comedy listener, but Raymond struck me as hilarious and I was aware of how it never once used offensive humor. Just an example - I'm sure there are others. <p> As for Pineapple Express, I'm not interested. I need a long vacation from Seth Rogan. Also, I watched Harold and Kumar / Gitmo yesterday and it was criminally unfunny. Shit, the only show that consistently makes me laugh nowadays is America's Funniest Videos. Am I getting old?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:36 p.m. CST

    YACK

    by BringingSexyBack

    I can't wait for floor exercises! Nice!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Yack, YES!!

    by BadMrWonka

    that movie is RIDICULOUSLY funny...<p> fuck, I need to find that, is it on DVD do you think? I haven't seen it in 5 years, but it's really damn good.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST

    QUICK CHANGE - NEVER HEARD OF IT

    by BringingSexyBack

    But it's going in my queue like, NOW. Thanks Yacksta.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Whats the point of all this?

    by Series7

    Who gives a shit if people are offended. People who get offended, offend me.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST

    THERE'S A MALE SWIMMER FROM GREAT BRITAIN NAMED "LIAM TANCOCK"

    by BringingSexyBack

    Now that I find humorous!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Quick Change is guaranteed laughs...

    by BadMrWonka

    I defy anyone who loves comedy to watch it and not laugh their ass off...

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 10:49 p.m. CST

    SOFA KING WE TODDED

    by F-18

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:25 p.m. CST

    What happened to the Clone Wars tb?

    by the_scream

    Talking about free speech! Harry's review of Clone Wars has been removed!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:30 p.m. CST

    yeah where the F is the clone wars TB. did Warners pull it

    by THX--1138

    was gonna be my first post as well...

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:31 p.m. CST

    This is exactly like AICN DELETING POSTS

    by Stengah

    free guilt trip, compliments of stengah.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:32 p.m. CST

    clone wars tb

    by THX--1138

    guess Harry is out buying the BIG M Falcon... SUCKER

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Maybe

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Ari was yelling at Harry, "No giftbag, Harry! No fuckin' Clone Wars giftbag, Harry!"

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Blame the PC crap on...

    by SithScorp

    The liberal BS agenda of the 1990s. I find it ironic, as Harry pointed out, that the people that want to squash expression are the "tolerant" liberals in this country. You can call the President of the US a "retard" on TV, in songs, and in print, but someone cannot use the term in a movie when it isn't even directed at an individual. Regardless of your opinion on W, and you are entitled to it, you cannot honestly sit there and say that this is right.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    star wars is officially dead then

    by THX--1138

    until the live TV series

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Where is the Clone Wars talkback?

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST

    this is now the clone wars TB

    by THX--1138

    move along

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:38 p.m. CST

    So does this mean that Chocolate

    by Series7

    Will be banned from being shown in the states? Since it has an autistic girl who has the ability to learn Kung Fu and kick ass, these people are going to try to say that it will prompt people to teach mentally disabled kids to fight.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:38 p.m. CST

    What the hell is going on?

    by Chief Joseph

    People getting banned, Clone Wars talkback vanishing...<br> Did you guys get hacked?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Did the Do-Gooders kill the Clone Wars TB???

    by Bill Clay

    Talk about PC censorship! Who has the juice to get Harry to pull a bad review of Clone Wars?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Harry, what happened to your review?

    by the_scream

    Seriously, if it is a simple technical error that's cool. But if that review magically disappears into the void, you have officially sold out. I have defended your reviews in the past so will be very disappointed if you've pulled it from external pressures.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:40 p.m. CST

    anyone got the clone wars TB in their cache?

    by THX--1138

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:40 p.m. CST

    WTF happened to the Clone Wars TB?

    by CatVutt

    Because nobody asked that yet...

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:40 p.m. CST

    I sensed tremors in the Clone Wars TB...

    by SpencerTrilby

    and then nothing.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:41 p.m. CST

    can someone recap waht harry said

    by Prossor

    in the clone wars tb?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST

    I went back to Clone Wars node and saw strange...

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    things, very strange things.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST

    well Hary said Rotta the Huttlet sucked

    by THX--1138

    worst character since jarjar

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Hey, has anybody seen the Clone Wars TB?

    by CatVutt

    It just disappeared!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST

    was teh strange things

    by Prossor

    girls ribbing one another? (rubbing their pussies against each other)

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Harry hated a Star Wars for the 1st time.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    It was painful to read.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:43 p.m. CST

    and he didn't go home and play with all his SW toys this time...

    by THX--1138

    Harry just delayed buying the $200 big M Falcon

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Something weird is going on.

    by CatVutt

    I could've sworn there was a Clone Wars TB.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Harry said that it was shit

    by SpencerTrilby

    Bad story, terrible score, 'splosions instead of direction. And not one, but TWO Jar-Jar-like characters that'll make the fans puke. After that I stopped reading and started posting. First time in YEARS Headgeek answers to one of my posts, and now it's lost in oblivion. I'm gonna weep.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Yeah

    by Series7

    Harry hated something about some Fe-male Jabba the Hutt. Worse then Jar Jar the Hutt.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:47 p.m. CST

    embargo

    by HEADGEEK

    which nobody told me about - so as a result I had to not say it sucked ass.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:47 p.m. CST

    the music score sucked as well, lots of explosions

    by THX--1138

    oh and the director is a hack job

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:47 p.m. CST

    This is the node that was Clone Wars, WTF?

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Check out the publication date and weird layout. I think they've been hacked. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37874

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Harry hated Clone Wars

    by the_scream

    Not just a mild dislike but absolutely loathed it. The first time I have seen him post something like this about Star Wars. Don't suppose anybody copied and pasted it (except for you Harry, of course).

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST

    mmmm so the same review will be up on Friday 15th?

    by THX--1138

    mmmmmmmmmm

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST

    So, will you post it later Harry?

    by the_scream

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Hutt sex

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Like two slugs going at in the garden? I'm warming to this!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Ahh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up Harry.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    I was worried. <p> About the site.<p> Not the Clone Wars.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:50 p.m. CST

    no embargo over at TFH they have a review

    by THX--1138

    so does the Hollywood reporter who also said it sucked

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:50 p.m. CST

    two jar jars

    by Prossor

    there needed to be TWENTY JAR JARS. in fact i was dissapoitned that episode 2 and 3 had less jar jar. they were actually worse because he bowed to the audience. jar jar shoulda been in the marriage and the mustafar duel.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Clone Wars

    by JLo

    maybe George called Harry and bribed him with a $200 Falcon.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Trade Federation Embargo, Harry?

    by SpencerTrilby

    The evil Lucas Empire strikes again!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:51 p.m. CST

    TFH = TFN and CatVutt NAILED It.. well done

    by THX--1138

    guess u knew that

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:55 p.m. CST

    so Harry how did they replace the 20th Century Fox fanfare

    by THX--1138

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:55 p.m. CST

    I wrote this marvelous piece on why Yoda is a useless character

    by Zeke25:17

    in the Clone Wars thread...and the whole thing gets yanked. I DIDN'T DO IT, DAMMIT! Anyone wants me to type it again, yer gonna haveta ask. My hands is all cwamped up now.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:57 p.m. CST

    bad Clone Wars review

    by JLo

    that could cost Lucas a few million for sure especially on AICN. Now what does an embargo mean for a review?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:57 p.m. CST

    I have the TV Guide CD-Rom for Clone Wars

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    It doesn't seem too bad, but the music is...weird. Heavy metal guitars wail when the droids fly their on their flying-gun speeder things.<p> <p> They should've used hand drawn animation like old Disney. <p> <p> According to Harry's "future" review, I'd guess they should've hired a writer to write a good story with less cutsie crap.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Write it up again Zeke

    by the_scream

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:03 a.m. CST

    THX--1138 - 20th century logo

    by Womb2dooM

    They didn't. Warners uses it's chirpy tune, completely out of place. It than goes into the Lucas Film which features a radio type montage and than the text on star back ground "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away..." and than BAM shitty Star Wars rip-off music, a montage of useless images and a Starship Troopers like voice over. They fucked up EVERYTHING!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:04 a.m. CST

    when does the embargo end

    by THX--1138

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Womb2dooM

    by THX--1138

    cheers, I wont rush to see it Friday.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST

    "Satire is what closes Saturday night."

    by Larry of Arabia

    I'm a do gooder liberal and I gotta say pulling that is just so fucking gay. Way to hurt your own cause.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:09 a.m. CST

    As I said in the other TB

    by Womb2dooM

    Ahsoka is FAR WORSE than the 2 Harry hated. She is painful. Nicknames are her gimmick. Artooey, Stinky, Sky Guy and she even calls Grevious's bodyguards "Stick Tinies"! A pox on her!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:10 a.m. CST

    the fact that people on this site freely hurl words like...

    by beamish13

    "cripple" and "retard" is proof of why most of you here are not getting laid now, nor will you in the near future.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:10 a.m. CST

    any pooh gags?

    by THX--1138

    or fart jokes?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:12 a.m. CST

    And the Right has no sense of humor either

    by Larry of Arabia

    Unless you count O'Rilley saying, "Now, I have a sense of humor..." before he calls some anti-bush satire tasteless and unfunny.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:12 a.m. CST

    OK scream, here goes:

    by Zeke25:17

    My 10-year-old nephew and I often revisit the subject of Yoda being basically useless whenever we want a good laugh....Here's a creature who's supposed to be at least 900 years old, a Jedi Master, well-versed in the ways of the Force blah blah blah--yet when anyone asks his opinions or advice, they boil down to variations on "The dark side clouds EVERYTHING" and "Impossible to see the future is". Translation: I don't know JACK. Hell, when Obi-Wan comes to his "master" looking for answers as to why a planet seems to be missing (which admittedly would not have taken a genius to figure out in the context of the story), Yoda makes a cute little joke at Kenobi's expense and then asks the roomful of "younglings" to answer the question instead! Nor does he seem to have a good word for anyone: not even Amidala gets a "how you doing, you're looking good" sort of comment; instead, Yoda can't wait to tell her what grave danger she's in, while offering NO advice as to how this impending danger might be stopped or avoided. (And if his "something's fishy" glance directed at Palpatine represents the extent of his insight into the Senator...how, then, are we supposed to believe that this is a wise character, worthy of the title of Master? Old, yes. Pessimistic, yes [at times, Yoda makes C-3PO sound like an optimist]...but when does he ever show ANY sort of wisdom?) And as for his lightsaber skills? Sure, he can hop around like a hyperactive flea and spin like Sonic, but his reach and saber beam are too damn short to even touch Count "Chocula" Dooku; the best he can do is fight him to a draw...kinda like what happens in the next movie with the lightning-throwing, "true" Palpatine. And he doesn't even let the good guys enjoy their brief feeling of victory; instead he throws cold water all over that one with "NOT victory...begun, the Clone War has." Honestly: what good does Yoda do ANYBODY in ANY of the films? Ultimately, he's about as useless as Sir Topham Hatt in the Thomas the Tank Engine stories: some old guy that orders everyone around but does nothing of use himself.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:16 a.m. CST

    I love how we all think alike

    by hopewell1

    I noticed the talkback removed and thought "Maybe they're talking about it in another recent lively thread" Yup, we're all here. And again I'm totally giving this cartoon a chance despite Harry's clear knee jerk reaction. I hate when reviewers include their wife's reaction only when it conveniently gels with their own to somehow justify their opinion.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:16 a.m. CST

    THX - no poop or gas....

    by Womb2dooM

    There is far worse stuff. Insulting stuff. Like droids so dumb they can't rememeber target coordinates seconds after they are given. That same droids is trying to observe a battle at the bottom of a cliff face and leans so far over he falls to his death while his commander shouts out "Get back up here!". It's sad how bad the series was allowed to get.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Embargo? Em-Bar-GOOO!?!

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Umm... How does one embargo a movie? <p> Has AICN surrounded Warner Bros. studios with an armada of warships? <p> It's late and I need to get some sleep. So maybe it'll make more sense to me in the morning. <p> Ooh! Wait! Did you mean boy-cott?! Umm, aww shit, whatever...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST

    IT'S THE LIBERAL AGENDA!!!

    by Monkey Butler

    Do any of you retards even know what liberal means? Fuck political correctness, but just because the word 'political' is there, doesn't mean it's a "left" or "right" policy.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Nicely put Zeke

    by the_scream

    If Yoda was not in the PT, would anything have changed? Dooku would have still gotten away. The Emperor would still have won. You're right. What did he do?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Ironic. He could save others from censorship...

    by StarWarsRedux

    ...but not himself!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Liberal with a sense of humor here ...

    by BruceVain

    ... to say that people who get offended on behalf of the "defenseless" are the truly insulting ones. (Just like old-school feminists who need to "save" women from their chosen careers as sex workers, because he latter lack the "educational opportunities" to know it's wrong, see?) And neither am I a big fan of genuine members of minority groups who presume to get offended on behalf of ALL members of that group. I once received an indignant email from a dwarf actor chastising me for calling him a midget in a movie review, and "educating" me on what an offensive word it was. Meanwhile, I had just completed an interview with ANOTHER dwarf who was running a wrestling company with the word "midget" in its name, and who willingly referred to himself with that exact term. It seemed the little-people activists had been picketing HIM for holding them back by reinforcing negative stereotypes -- but as he reasoned, how could they consider themselves advocates for the advancement of all his kind, when they were doing their level best to put him out of business? Since then, I've used the term "midget" freely and unreservedly, certain that the far more patronizing "little people" will one day be recognized as the equivalent of "Negro" when it comes to enduring sensitivity. And to bring this rant back to the topic at hand, I haven't yet seen "Tropic Thunder," but this boycott just gets me more pumped to do so. I'm sure nothing in it could possibly be more offensive to the mentally challenged than the entirety of "I Am Sam." And THAT sucker got nominated for an Oscar. Bet your ass no retard had a vote.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:28 a.m. CST

    "The taxation of trade routes is in dispute..."

    by Zeke25:17

    "...and the embargo on negative movie reviews continues to plague the Alliance. A small band of Separatists plan to separate from the Count Chocula Dooku separatists, mainly because no one knows what to call him: Count, Dooku, Lord Tyrannus, "Ty", Sifodias, "Sy", or Fodi-Wan Kenobi. Meanwhile, Jar-Jar mates with Jabba the Hutt's long lost abandoned half-sister and the end result is a kid who sounds a lot like Florence, the Jeffersons' maid. Blah blah Skywalker blah blah blah Dark Side blah blah blah THE FORCE..." Now there's a title crawl for ya.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:30 a.m. CST

    did you hear about the chinese couple that split up

    by THX--1138

    she went back to peking. he went back to wank ing

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:30 a.m. CST

    The pull quote

    by Wolverine's Dad

    "All I do (is) stuff my face and fart." -Harry Knowles. I'd put that on a movie poster.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:32 a.m. CST

    You know what WILL be cool, though? THE FORCE UNLEASHED!

    by Zeke25:17

    Cannot WAIT for that game.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Speaking of free speech why did you pussy out on Clone Wars?

    by reflecto

    We know the review exists, Harry. This is almost as adorable as the time you guys played judge and jury over who was fit to see the Lost season finale spoilers. It's called Ain't It Cool NEWS, not Ain't It Cool That We Can Lord It Over You.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Clone Wars

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Moviehole has given it a bad review as well, saying that only 12 year olds and under will like it, it's boring, there's a Drag Queen the Hutt in it etc. Sorry Warners and Lucasfilm- the truth is out there.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Then they introduced Baby Jabba aka Rotta the Huttlet aka Stinky

    by THX--1138

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:49 a.m. CST

    On the bright side

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I looked down the aisle and saw Shia was laughing. So he liked it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:52 a.m. CST

    IRONY: Harry gives a lecture on free speech, THEN-

    by Mike_D

    take his "Clone Wars" review down after blasting it. Nice.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:59 a.m. CST

    anybody remember when you dreamed about what the clone wars woul

    by THX--1138

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:59 a.m. CST

    d really be about

    by THX--1138

    you know when you where a kid

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:01 a.m. CST

    BREAKING THE EMBARGO

    by DOGSOUP

    " Unfortunately, that wood-carved appearance is all-too-fitting considering the less-than-fluid movement of the characters (they all appear to walk like C-3PO) and the lifeless dialogue." ooooooh!!! SNAP Michael Rechtshaffen of the Hollywood Reporter!!!! Way to spit in the EmbargoS FACE!!!! ATTICA! ATTICA! ATTICA!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:02 a.m. CST

    You know what's nice about enjoying the Prequels?

    by StarWarsRedux

    I'm not looking for "The Clone Wars" or a live-action show to give me what I wanted. I already got it. Everybody else can worry about how all the animation and whatnot does. I might need "The Hobbit" to make up for LOTR, but I don't need "The Clone Wars" to make up for eps. I, II and III.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:03 a.m. CST

    I'm way late on the Quick Change love

    by Xiphos_2

    Wanted to throw my support behind the love for that little comedy gem. I think its Bill Murrays best work.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Quick Change

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Yeah, someone once brought up "Quick Change" amongst a group of friends and we were surprised to find that other people had seen it and really enjoyed it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Liberals are the new conservatives...

    by thegreatwhatzit

    Agree with me or risk ostracization. As for Obama, I actively participated in two fundraisers. Now? Forgetaboutit, this guy's in the Twilight Zone. Vote for Ralph Nader.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:14 a.m. CST

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Would there've been an embargo if it was a good review?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:15 a.m. CST

    One final thing,,,

    by thegreatwhatzit

    Obama's speech in Germany. "Remember the concentration camps? Neither do I. Let's pretend the whole thing never happened."

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:15 a.m. CST

    HARRYYYYYYY!!!

    by onezeroone

    I thought this was about the missing Clone Wars review. *WILL* we get it on 15th or roundabout that time or not? And talking of embargo, would they have really taken it off if you had loved it?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:16 a.m. CST

    And, there is a reason why McCain is going to be Prez...

    by The Dum Guy

    And, it will be because of this...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Honestly, I've SEEN The Clone Wars Cartoon

    by DOGSOUP

    The guy who created Dexter's Laboratory did it. It was badass. I don't need to see it again. Unless I want to rewatch the original which would really be fine with me

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:22 a.m. CST

    The Thought Police....

    by thot

    ..already exist in some countries, like Canada, where "hate speech" can land you a fine and maybe even in jail. Truly frightening. Free speech involves the freedom to piss people off, make them uncomfortable and even, gasp!, insulted! Mark my words people, it all started with "hate crimes" laws and will eventually swallow up the freedom of expression.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:25 a.m. CST

    AMAZING G!

    by onezeroone

    Hellboy animation is there coz harry is try to keep his buddy afloat under the tsunami that is The Dark Knight. Aren't you surprised why he never did a Batman or Joker animation??? The most anticipated movie of the year and only one that delivered so handsomely, and Harry chose to ignore it [not counting reviews here]

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:25 a.m. CST

    What happened to your THE CLONE WARS review?

    by warphoenix

    Hey Harry, what happened to your The Clone Wars review?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:28 a.m. CST

    why choose tropic thunder? and why now?

    by bacci40

    christ, why not go after adam samdler who plays a retard in all of his movies? fuck the pc police...seriously...this is stupid

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Nothing on the internet ever goes away...

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    http://tinyurl.com/65sch2 <p> For your review.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:52 a.m. CST

    DARTHpatel!

    by Womb2dooM

    Sooooo, you're breaking up with Aintitcool? Sounds like this was a tough decision. I'm sorry to see you go.<P>Get over yourself! Harry and Aintitcool.com are not above the law. If Warner Bros. decide to block any reviews of their movies with legal threats that could see the site shut down, Harry has zero power to stop that and must abide. This is not a new concept. Harry admitted in this here TB that he was unaware of an embargo preventing Clone Wars reviews to be published prior to release date and that's why his review was posted and subsequently forced down. The Clone Wars is a property of Warners and they can do whatever they want with it.<P>Frankly I wish every knee-jerk bitching tool was as easily defeated as you as TalkBacks would have vastly less fat. Tar, tar.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Harry the Hypocrite

    by Uncapie

    "Hate-speech?" You're one to call the kettle black! Your review on "Journey To the Center of the Earth 3-D" especially the juvenile "steaming bowl of dicks" remark(That made you look immature at New Line/Warner's and in the eyes of the cast of the film.)was certainly spiteful in its lowest form. You've let this site go to your head and you've lost your credibility. You turned from a regular guy with good intentions, who loved moves into an egotisical, philistine child who stomps his feet and cries on the carpet if he doesn't get his way. You degenerated this webiste into the lowest form by sabatoging the competition if your "friend's" film is up against it. You have no pure, objective comments. Its hate all the way. Everyone who posts on this site has seen the pattern and knows it by now. You've made a mockery of yourself and damaged your approach to writing by doing this. In the 11 years I wrote for AICN(And never even getting a "thank you"for doing it. I was never paid either.)I've seen it degenerate from a friendly, film fan site into an ugly shill for whatever "you" can get out of the studios. That's one reason why you've lost a lot of good writers over the years and that's why I'll never write for you again. There's plenty of other sites that appreciate an objective view of films. All types of films. I've made a lot of friends on this site. Intelligent people with creative minds and I'm sure that they'll be sucessful in any career that they choose or that they're in. To those that supported me and my work; I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I wish all of you good luck. You can catch my reviews on nukedthefridge.com or any other film related site. By-the-way, "Journey" is still making money and "Hellboy 2" has fallen off the radar. Enjoy your crow, Harry.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Harry ANSWERED why the Clone Wars thing was taken down!

    by half vader

    Fucking pay attention! Whether you agree or not, try reading some other posts beside your own... <p> P.S. Considering what I just said, I realise this post may be redundant.

  • ^^^^^ Harry's gushing, revised review. They're all like that when they suck dick these days, aren't they? "Put yourself back into the wonderful spirit of being a happy child at play, and you'll enjoy this movie..." Shut it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:55 a.m. CST

    How is it an "embargo" when other pubs have panned it publicly?

    by reflecto

    Just sayin.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Seriously...WTF happened to that Clone Wars review?

    by Jobacca

    Did Lucas pitch a bitch fit? Did Harry and Co. cave in the face of WB's lawyers? I thought this was the bad-ass take no prisoners website that posted spoilers and broke embargos like a motherfucker. Guess not...anyway,for those that missed it,Harry says that the Clone Wars movie is silly stupid juvenile shit with a farting baby hutt and another one who appears to be a female ghetto crack whore hutt. It sucks almost as bad as Indy 4. And everyone knows it. And now,back to your regularly scheduled and heavily censored post about free speech!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:58 a.m. CST

    Shit! Tinyurl doesn't work.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Mind the spaces, you know the drill. <p> http://boards.theforce.net/live_action_clone_wars_classics/b10467/28780874/r28948317/ <p> Again, for your review...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Jesus, People...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... how many times or ways can it be said? There is an embargo in place. If someone else has published, they can deal with Lucasfilm themselves. Harry, being AN ADULT WHO WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD, has to abide by the embargo, and so he took the review back down. He will repost it when he can. He is not revising it, reflecto, you fucking dunce. He just can't put it up yet. <P>Not everything is a fucking conspiracy or a scandal, unless you're a bunch of bored fanboys on a Sunday night, I guess. He's answered your question. It's been answered repeatedly now. You want to keep acting like someone wronged you personally? Go ahead, but you sound dumber with each outraged post.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Too bad. I was enjoying handing apologists their asses

    by IndustryKiller!

    It's fun sorting those dumb fuckers out.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:02 a.m. CST

    No, the review wouldn't have stayed up....

    by Womb2dooM

    What world are you living in DARTHpatel? .... if a studio has a legal document stating that their movie is not allowed to be reviewed publicly until a certain date, than that is that. Why would Harry break the law and put his life work in jeopardy?<p>And why are you still here? Breaking up should be handled like pulling off a band aid. Nice and quick. Don't look back, move on with your life.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:04 a.m. CST

    A callout! I've arrived in society!

    by reflecto

    It's all downhill for me from here! It'll be nothing but soulless Bret Easton Ellis-esque social engagements and coke binges from now on.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST

    No, Darth...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... it would not have stayed up "in the past." Legal issues are legal issues. You do what you can within the confines of legal restrictions. You and Jobacca seem to have selective memories.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Pussies!!

    by Jobacca

    Hey folks-quit posting the urls to the review...they lawyers are obviously a bunch of bored fanboys and they're on the ball tonight. INSTEAD....copy and past the fucking review. IN EVERY SINGLE TALKBACK YOU CAN FIND!!!! And then spread it across the net and onto any SW boards you can find. Make sure everyone knows its the official Harry Knowles AICN review.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:13 a.m. CST

    The Clone Wars movie looks shitty.

    by F-18

    That's my review.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:14 a.m. CST

    "Yea sure Harry, go ahead and post it AFTER the 15th."

    by Mike_D

    haha, fuckin WB.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    FYI peeps, Harry blasted "CLONE WARS" big time.

    by Mike_D

    just incased anybody was curious.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    The thing is....

    by Jobacca

    We all know the lawyers would not have given a damn if the review had been positive. You guys ever wonder why you rarely see such negative reviews here anymore? Aint it cool? Not one bit...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    And Wow...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... talk about selective memories. Uncapie, I've seen Harry say any number of nice things to and about you over the years, and what you just did above is classless to the extreme. <P>Let's be honest, since you seem to value honesty, especially the brutal kind. You show up here when you want to pimp something that someone you know worked on so you can score points with them. Period. I believe you enjoy films, but I also believe you have used this site mercilessly over the years. <P>Should I go find the link for your glowing blowjob of a review for that Katee Sackhoff direct-to-video trash from last year? The one that you tried to peddle as truly great indie SF? Who on that one did you know, because I guarantee it was somebody. <P>And I'm going to have to assume now that JOURNEY is a personal thing for you, and that you once again are marching to someone else's orders, because you seem to have taken Harry's review as an affront to you, Uncapie. Which, of course, it was not. <P>But if you think that you going to write for the truly wretched NukeThefridge.com is a threat, then by all means, my friend, go. Have a great life. But next time you decide that you want to use the AICN platform to shill some friend's work, I'll make sure to remind Harry of your infantile rant above, and you can feel free to fucking shove it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Harry Knowles calls Clone Wars "STAR WARS...awesome work"

    by reflecto

    Oh, the headlines PR can create!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Jobacca...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... hate to blow a hole in your theory, but I liked THE CLONE WARS, and I'm under the same embargo. Only Lucasfilm and Warner told me ahead of time, so I'll write my review for opening day. A positive one. That I still can't post right now. But, please, tell everyone how that fits with your suspicions. <P>And by the way... if anyone reposts the embargoed review in talkback, you're gone. End of story. It's not a game. It's not a joke. The material is not to be published on the site until the right date, and you're not going to cause us legal troubles just because you have sand in your pussy over an embargo date.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:19 a.m. CST

    I will say that anyone pimping Journey over Hellboy 2 is a loon

    by reflecto

    Sorry, Uncapie.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:20 a.m. CST

    See DARTHpatel, Uncapie has shown...

    by Womb2dooM

    ... how NOT to break up with a website. Don't hang around and get or bitter. You'll make a desperate fool of yourself. Leave now while your dignity is only bruised and not torn to shreds.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Somebody check the barn...

    by Jobacca

    Cause its burning down and all the horses have already left. Maybe they were clone horses....

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Mori this might piss you off, but I gotta ask

    by IndustryKiller!

    Does the positive Clone Wars review have anything to do with a kids enjoyment of it? Because I gotta say i don't think that argument applies to this one. Often it's a no brainer what is going to entertain a child, but the difference between what is good and what isn't should be held above those standards.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:27 a.m. CST

    I gotta agree, Uncapie you sound kinda nuts

    by IndustryKiller!

    I have had myriad problems with Harry's reviews but I don't know if I've ever felt he had been payed off. i think the guy just has some shit taste and REALLY low standards. So feel free to get on his case about that, that's fair game.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:29 a.m. CST

    Industry...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... won't piss me off at all. I think THE CLONE WARS is imperfect, certainly, but then again, I think pretty much everything STAR WARS related is imperfect. I really only adore two films. Everything else, I dig the iconography, and some of the action, and ideas in it, and I'm okay with that. STAR WARS has not held a sacred place in my love of film for a long time now. I think CLONE WARS is a fun little adventure movie, like a Rankin-Bass take on things. Yes, I think it skews younger than the features, but not by much. I can't say much more than that without getting into the review, but I think it will play more to prequel fans than OT fans, and I suspect that's who it was made for.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Robots in humans or

    by Rommel Catuncan

    humans in robots? I confused!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Only liberals are PC?????

    by Dingbatty

    So, conservatives won't get up in arms if Jesus were lampooned by a comedy such as this? Or say, If I write something like, "Jesus fucked a goat and wiped his dick with the American flag?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Nonsense...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... I've lost both friends and jobs because I've always spoken my mind, D.Vader, and just because you want to insult me, that doesn't change the 12 years I've put my honest opinion forth time and time again. You may not always agree with my taste, but it's been my honest taste and opinion. Every. Single. Time. Good and bad.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:36 a.m. CST

    link to clone wars review

    by RokurGepta

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film/reviews/article_display.jsp?&&rid=11497

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:37 a.m. CST

    You do realize you just damned it with faint praise?

    by reflecto

    "Prequel fans?" I liked aspects of the prequels here and there, but singling out some exclusive group of "prequel fans" and setting up a false contrast between them and "original trilogy fans" is dodgy at best. Unless of course by "exclusively prequel fans" you mean children from the ages of 2 to 11. Or unless some desperate, flop sweat drenched subset of adult fans who can't handle the fact that George Lucas does not poop platinum has cropped up without my noticing. As for AICN's own bias, I won't belabor that other than to say HATCHET.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Moriarty

    by Xiphos_2

    You are on fire tonight man. Keep it up, it's vastly entertaining. Props on the the post time stamped 1:59:53 AM. That one was was insightful.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Mori I forgot

    by Xiphos_2

    Nice reply to Uncapies post.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:48 a.m. CST

    If we cant laugh at mongs, who can we laugh at?

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    Aren't they natures court jesters?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Yeah Mori

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I think I'm falling in love with you. After Shia.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Geez, will you people stop your shouting and go to bed!!

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Technically, you're all off topic anyway. I was too. This TB is about the disappearance of Simple Jack from the internet, not Harry's review. <p> Besides, going on and on about it here is just pissing in the wind, taking up space on a server, and possibly getting yourself banned if you post the review here. <p> You guys should be savvy enough to find something on the net if you really want to find it. <p> Hint: They call it... googal or sometimes google. Try it out.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Where's

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Arnie? <P> You can't find me!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:04 a.m. CST

    Back on the "retard" thing though

    by Vern

    As I've mentioned before I kind of struggle with the word "retarded" because one time I got a really thoughtful letter from a reader who worked with retarded children and he told me in a non-pushy sort of way that he thought me calling people retards or calling movies retarded was not fair to these kids. And I think he was right. But on the other hand there is no word that quite works as well sometimes. So that's why it's a struggle.<p> Anyway what I'm saying is I can understand why they would be up in arms about some of these things. But in the case of this movie, they are COMPLETELY WRONG. If anything they should be praising this movie because it is very brutally and accurately satirizing the way Hollywood exploits disabilities. I can't imagine whoever is doing the criticizing has seen the movie or heard it described what it's about because it is just not even close to legitimate to criticize it on these grounds. As Harry said it has nothing to do with people with disabilities. If anyone should be mad it should be people like Tom Hanks and Sean Penn who have played the type of roles it's making fun of.<p> As for the other controversy going on above, I did not see JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH because it looked... well, this is one of those cases where it's too bad I can't use "retarded." So my vote is with HELLBOY 2. Even though it's a mixed bag I'd rather see that again than see Brendan Fraser in 3-D.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:07 a.m. CST

    I'd post my opinion but i don't want to get BANNED!!!

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    ...so all i will say is that everything on this site is great and movies are neat.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Brendan Fraser is an ass

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I think being in the audience with him while he shouts out comments during his own movie is my idea of torture.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Sorry

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Frasier. Fraiser. Fraisier.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Ahh yes, THE google.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    The Wal*Mart of search engines.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Dr. Vader

    by Vern

    I don't know the specifics of this one but the idea of an embargo I think is that they invite you to their free early critic's screening, and even though you haven't signed a contract by going you agree that if they say you can't review it before a certain date then you can't review it. No, legally they couldn't do shit, but for Harry (who I happen to know runs a movie related web sight) it could cause problems to be on the shit list of Warner Brothers or whoever. Starting with not being invited to the next screening, and I'm sure they would find other ways to get their revenge of the sith on him.<p> I'm not into playing that game, but I guess that's why I pay money to see the movies and then don't get paid to review them. Harry makes his living that way so he has to play by their rules. Plus, he did post the review briefly so that Dave Poland dude will probaly whine about it on his blog anyway.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Is everyone done yellin'?

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    I have to put the dog out an' he won't shit if there's a ruckus goin' on.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:14 a.m. CST

    L.H.Puttgrass

    by Xiphos_2

    Some of us have already been to bed and its now morning where we're at just pointing that one out. Although a nap does sound nice. Maybe after elevensies.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:18 a.m. CST

    True Story

    by DOGSOUP

    I was seeing Iron Man for the first time earlier this summer. I noticed during the previews a few seats down there was a group of mentally challenged individuals watching intently at the Rambo DVD box set release (to which one guy said "OOOH MAN!! THATS MINE!!"). They laughed through the Zohan preview but when The Love Guru trailer came on the whole group was stone faced silent the whole time. When it was over, the Rambo loving guy turned to his friends and said "That looks Retarded."

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Xiphos

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Sorry, I keep forgetting that this internet thingy is world-wide. <p> Kinda gives me a chill. <p> Hey! The dog shit. Good boy.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:22 a.m. CST

    DOGSOUP

    by Rommel Catuncan

    That's awesome!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Now I want to see Tropic Thunder.

    by kirttrik

    I think you can obviously be verbally abusive on this site and not get banned. I think it is highly unlikely CLone Wars will measure anything near the Tartakovsky Clone Wars. And it was a huge mistake to not have him lead the project. Yeah, it looks terrible, and it's pointless. Why continue with the prequel series that has been generally disliked by the majority of loyal fans. I just saw Rambo and have decided Stallone is a better film maker than Lucas, far better. I never thought I would of ever write that, ten years ago if you told me I'd be posting that comment for public viewing I'd say your crazy. Anyone who is excited about the machinima garbage that has become THE CLONE WARS needs, what alcoholics call, a moment of clarity.

  • REJECTED. Please proceed to The Ministry of Re-Education. Our Guards will appear at your 2-room living quarters shortly.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:32 a.m. CST

    no! NO! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    .....everything on this site is really great!!! reaaalllllyyyyyy ffffuuuccckkkkkiiiiinnnnnggggggg gggggrrrrreeeeeeeaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!........

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:35 a.m. CST

    wow,

    by theBigWasted

    this is probably the most interesting talkback i've seen in awhile. mori is TOTALLY STEAMED! and although mori is BY FAR my favorite reviewer (you're second vern), i cannot for the life of me imagine that CLONE WARS is worth a shit. i mean, really. it is beyond comprehension to me that anyone can defend those prequels or any of the the wretched shite that's come from the STAR WARS universe from TPM to ROTS and since. the only reason anyone is so desperate to love these crap animated movies is because of the intense letdown that was the prequels. jeez, you have these iconic figures as kids and lucas has fallen hard lately, the prequels, indy 4, he's lost it and we're left to suffer what's becoming an ever tainted legacy by one of our formerly beloved filmmakers. wait, i'm on a rant. i'll stop : )

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:40 a.m. CST

    as far as the legal trouble is concerned...

    by theBigWasted

    i doubt the site would be in danger at all. however, as was mentioned by vern above, when you're a guy like harry, it's probably not worth it to post a neg review of CLONE WARS and risk repercussion by the studios. i mean, we all have jobs, come here for free, post for free and read sometimes interesting reviews for free. and no matter how uninsightful and silly harry's reviews can be, he's the reason this site exists at all. if it gets shut down or becomes less interesting because content becomes restricted or less available, soon there won't even be a place for us to bitch and whine about the oh-so-important tragedy of a film like CLONE WARS sucking. plus, where else are you going to find such an outdated talkback system? i mean, shit, this thing's a relic. you get a little 90's history every time you visit...see?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Good Lord

    by The Curious Dr Humpp

    So Harry voices his opinion about something he has a considerable degree of passion for and all of a sudden he's a hypocrite and a bastard for doing so? Get off those high horses people. Who the f*ck ever said that AICN was / is an objective movie site? If I'm not mistaken, this is still Harry's site. So if he wants to stuff it with pictures of him taking a crap on Brendan Frasier's face or use it as a platform for blatant nepotism, he can bloody well do as he pleases. We're all just visitors. And we can choose not to visit the site if we don't like what's on it. As for Freedom of Speech: I'm afraid a lot of people still don't 'get it'. Freedom of Speech (or better yet: Freedom of Thought) can ONLY work as an absolute. You either have it, or you don't. It's that simple. There's no such thing as 'a little bit of Free Speech'. Because how do you limit it? And by whose standards? How do you define 'offensive'? Dutch comedian Hans Teeuwen recently said that what some people consider offensive, is sometimes nothing more than a truth they just don't want to hear. Couldn't agree more. Freedom of Thought is an inalienable right that defines us as civilized human beings. The fact that certain people within any given society are going to feel 'offended' by the opinion of others doesn't change anything about that. Nobody ever said that living with freedom was going to be easy. Or come cheap. Mark my words, this PC-bullcrap is going to get worse before it gets better. This whole TROPIC THUNDER 'retard'-issue is just another example of the dangerous road we're on. Here in Holland, where I live, satirical cartoonists get ARRESTED (yes, by the government) for publishing 'offensive' cartoons. So-called offensive weblogs are under strict government watch and get taken down when they publish opinions (yes, OPINIONS) that some people might consider offensive. This is what Freedom means in 2008. Until we all grow some thick skin, it's not going to get better.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST

    I want to take a crap on Curious Dr. Hump's face

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    OOOHHHH BBBUUUURRRRRNNNNNNNN

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Why not say so Mori?

    by the_scream

    Harry basically muttered the word embargo and then left the thread. Why not post something on the site: apologies but we need to take the Clone Wars review down but it will return in a few weeks...blah blah blah. The fact it just vanished made everyone skeptical. So, do you seriously blame everyone for their reaction?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Still up

    by Dapper Swindler

    So... even though I didn't read the whole article, I don't see what the problem is. Because of free speech, you can put things in a movie which may be offensive to some people. But also because of free speech, you can whine about how it offends you. So as long as the do-gooders aren't threatening with legal action then all is well. Unless they are threatening with legal action. Like I said, didn't read the article.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Well said, Dr. Humpp.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    You keep on being curious.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:52 a.m. CST

    Hey, Leafy!

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Plants don't shit.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:55 a.m. CST

    maybe not the kind you hang out with

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    but trust me, three cups of coffee later and some photosynthesis...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:14 a.m. CST

    C'Mon guys Clone Wars was not a battle worth fighting

    by IndustryKiller!

    If there is a film to get in legal trouble over, Clone Wars is not that film. Are you really gonna get pissed over this one?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST

    I feel bad for John Edwards

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    no wait, scratch that, I feel bad for myself... for not being able to believe that their are any decent human beings in politics left in the world.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:37 a.m. CST

    you mean Nuked the Fridge?

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    i'm keeping weird hours these days...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Still up

    by Dapper Swindler

    Jacked up on red bull and trying desperately to finish some work. Feel free to bring forth any topic for discussion.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:02 a.m. CST

    back to the point

    by The Sliver

    If this idea of "hate-speech" catches on, watch out. Censorship of movies is just the beginning. In ten years, maybe less, people will be going to prison for "hate-speech". Website owners, filmmakers and anybody else. And of course, hate speech can be anything the government decides they want it to be. Anti-black, anti-white, anti-gay, anti-straight, anti-republican, anti-democrat, anti-Christian, anti-Muslim, anti-scientology, anti-anything. Whatever they (whoever is in power) decide. It's already been happening in Canada for a while now. Google "Bill C-250" or "hate speech in canada" or "canada censorship". Do some research and start preparing for a bleak future. Sounds like a good idea for a new movie. Any brave filmmakers out there?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:05 a.m. CST

    anti-hockey sticks

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    and bacon eh?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:10 a.m. CST

    forgot this link

    by The Sliver

    Interesting article: "The Noxious Fruits of Hate Speech Laws" http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/13/hate_speech_laws/

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Dear Uncapie

    by MetiphisLabs

    No one will miss you. I will continue to come here and listen to what Harry and Moriarty (who I agree with more usually) have to say. In fact I don't clearly remember anything you've written, and I've been here since 97... weird I must have subconsciously filtered your bullshit, huh?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:13 a.m. CST

    Zoidberg

    by The Curious Dr Humpp

    At what point was I 'bitching at you Yanks'? I'm talking about Freedom of Speech in general. As for the clogs: shoesize and address please and two of Holland's finest wooden shoes are on their way.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:13 a.m. CST

    aack, bad link

    by The Sliver

    just google the name of the article. Sorry. It's worth it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:18 a.m. CST

    Great!

    by Jay Jay

    Retards defending retards! Can nobody take a fucking joke any more?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:21 a.m. CST

    i can take a joke

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    I'm just running out of places to put them so I'd prefer cash next time.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Thanks, D. Vader

    by The Sliver

    Should have seen that myself. Guess I went full retar(censored). By the way it's "The Sliver" not Silver. Did you check out the article? There's video, too.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:46 a.m. CST

    "No, legally they couldn't do shit"

    by chrth

    Actually, as long as it will be fulfilled within a year's time (and since the movie is out within a year), an oral contract is considered binding for legal purposes, so legally they could do shit.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:08 a.m. CST

    FULL-ON MELTDOWN LAST NIGHT!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Embargo, Uncapie, wingnuts in defense of their right to slam retards ... a smorgasbord of craziness! I regret sleeping!!!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:28 a.m. CST

    What's next?

    by stvnhthr

    Things are getting ridiculous. Remember when the pro-gay groups started targeting anyone who did not agree with their lifestyle as using hate speech? Thank God for the freedom of speech.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:30 a.m. CST

    WOW!

    by codymr

    It's usually the right wing that gets their balls in a knot over the stuff Hollywood puts out... Now the left too? Isn't comedy by its very nature offensive? Kinda thought that was the point?! whether it's self mockery or pointing out the shortcomings in others, it's all good.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Remember that Johnny Knoxville flick

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    what was it called..The Ringer or something like that? It actually had the blessing of the Special Olmpics. I've never seen it, but I know the plot. Maybe I should watch it one of these days.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Ever see Mr. Woodcock

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    that movie was anti-gym teachers... and anti funny movies

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:35 a.m. CST

    JEWEL MARRIES RODEO STAR IN BAHAMAS

    by BringingSexyBack

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Pop singer Jewel eloped with her rodeo-star boyfriend in the Bahamas on Thursday, People magazine reported. The 34-year-old singer married Ty Murray, 38, during a private ceremony, the magazine said, quoting Jewel's publicist.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:38 a.m. CST

    CEASE-FIRE PROPOSED AS RUSSIA BOMBS GEORGIA

    by BringingSexyBack

    Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said he signed a cease-fire proposal today that will be taken to Moscow. "We are trying to stop this as soon as possible," Saakashvili said in a conference call with Western reporters. He then abruptly ended the call saying Russian warplanes were flying over the presidential palace.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:41 a.m. CST

    I'm anti-People magazine

    by The Sliver

    and anti-rodeo

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:41 a.m. CST

    American people!

    by Billy The Fish

    ...Welcome to your taste of life in Britain, where no-one is allowed to say anything disrespectful about anyone at all, unless of course they're a white hererosexual Christian male in full-time enployment.<p>Curiously, over here, it's never the 'minorities' themselves making a fuss, only the 'liberal' middle-class white do-gooders; all Left wing and right-on. I bet you've got them over there, too. If not, I'm betting you soon will!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:42 a.m. CST

    So let me get this straight

    by Rommel Catuncan

    There was a trade embargo on Jabba the Hutt, whose retarded crossdressing son was kidnapped by a disgruntled former employee who escaped Germany disguised as a circus clown? And Harry was given diplomatic immunity by the Dutch? Is that right? <P> This isn't the future my mother warned me about.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Fucking Retards who hate on 'Do-Goodeers'

    by quantize

    Aint nothing wrong with DOING-GOOD in ITSELF... ..if they're *misguided*, then say THAT, otherwise all that neocon psychotic language does it say its 'OK' to lambast anyone who is trying to DO SOME FUCKING GOOD. Harry you first class dimwit, stick to all the cock and cum alliteration in your shitty reviews and stay right out of politics like most of the redneck one-eyed morons in these talkbacks should.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Billy the fish is right!

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    I visited Britain last year, and I said anything disrespectful about anyone at all. I am a white hererosexual Christian male with part-time employment. And they killed my whole family.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST

    AICN STAFF

    by C A Iversen

    Please stop fearing the reaction of the sites assholes and ignore them! How about paying some attention to some of the better dudes in the talkbacks, however few of them there are. I hardly ever post on anything on this site as it's full of angry idiots most of the time. Probably because a good post gets lost. Very lost. I'm not saying you guys never talk to the normal talkbackers, but they are the minority. Could this be why your talkback is as it is? Rewarding crap? Just my 2c. Oh yeah, I'm now going to Tropic Thunder on opening night and maybe twice more than I would've gone, unless these PC dickwads shut up. Who else is going to see it more than once to spite these so-called "do-gooders"?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:51 a.m. CST

    That's ri-damn-diculous.

    by rbatty024

    Some people need to get a sense of humor. Although, remember, it was the conservatives who attacked films like Dogma and The Passion of the Christ for their religious message. Then they attacked that made for TV biopic because it hurt the legacy of their patron saint Ronald Reagan. Liberals generally keep their head about this sort of stuff. Of course, there are loonies on both ends. Just more on the conservative end. <p> I will also note that technically this has nothing to do with the First Amendment. They're not advocating government intervention, they're just trying to get the studio to change its mind. Granted, it's still ridiculous, but not quite as bad as the article makes it out to be.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST

    I'm paying attention to you C A Iverson

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    You want me to rub your belly? just asking?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST

    To quote Salman Rushdie

    by Screwhead

    You can choose to live in a polite society or a free society, but you can't have both.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Jesus.

    by CatVutt

    Wish I hadn't gone to bed. This TB turned out pretty funny.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Let's Get Rid of All References in the Mentally Handicapped

    by kevinwillis.net

    And pretend they don't exist. We should never refer to them in movies, literature, music or television. Because it might be offensive, and I'm sure the mentally handicapped want to be seen too special to reference, or to be included in popular media, such as parodies. Forget the mentally challenged! Ignore them completely. <br><br> What a sensitive, caring idea.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST

    More Loonies on the Conservative End

    by kevinwillis.net

    I call bullshit on that. There are plenty of loonies on both ends, and, frankly, I've had to deal with more on the loony left. So, from my perspective, it seems like there's a lot more politically correct loony lefites out there. However, I understand that mileage will vary. So I suspect it isn't, in fact, tons more loons on the left, and is probably more 50/50. <br><br>But I went to art school. And the lefties there taught me all about intolerance. The feminazis boycotted art history class when it covered 18th century nudes because it was about form and line, and not about the evil oppressive mail patriarchy that exploited the women for their nakedness. Sheesh.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:05 a.m. CST

    I was offended by Daniel Day-Lewis in My Left Foot.

    by Knuckleduster

    Nah. Well done, Dreamworks/Paramount, for not touching a frame of that movie. Retards are funny and always will be. Why else would the Americans vote for one as President?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Yeah!

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    I do am impersonation of a tardo in my works lunch room, everyone gets offended. Meanwhile Dustin Hoffman gets an oscar. We're back on Harry for being a corporate shill now? I thought it was hypocrisy and script girl?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Make no mistake

    by Die_Hardest

    When someone tries to take away your right to say "retard" they're really trying to take away your right to say "the government is retarded" and that is the definition of oppression. Given recent developments on this site as well, it is prudent to say that the same applies to aicn staffers. I can understand limitations on hate speech in this site, but I certainly would hope one could not be banned for saying Harry/Moriarty/Quint is retarded. That would certainly be hypocrisy, which is, retarded.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Leafy McPlantsalot

    by C A Iversen

    Yeah, I was really talking about my post. I thought that as soon as I pushed the post button, "Someone will think I'm rating myself as a talkbacker", LOL. Oh yeah, I also thought, "If anyone ever comments on my name, they'll spell it wrong, due to a US b-baller". If I have to say this, I rated my last post a C and this one a D-. That make you feel better? :)

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Oh I Forgot!!!

    by C A Iversen

    Please rub my belly. I've had nacho's recently. It'll help me move things through....

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Harry, you are retarded

    by Drunken Rage

    "the very powerful families behind this movement are amongst the biggest and most powerful Liberal families that purport to support free speech" What the fuck are you talking about?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Can I still use the word 'tard'?

    by ChiefRoberts

    We'll all be taking it up the arse from the PC brigade soon enough.....................if we let them!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Done and Done

    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    it's what i do

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Liberals are just as bad as conservatives

    by Cobbio

    Always have been.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:22 a.m. CST

    When we say "Retarded" it means really great...

    by Napolean Solo

    Street culture always flips the original meaning of words. <br> <br> Weird that Tropic Thunder would get chastised for its use of that word, but in the same film you have a white guy coloring his face and black folk (including me) cannot wait to see it. <br> <br> Oh knuckleduster, you're so right about the president. lol

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:23 a.m. CST

    AS SOMEONE WHO'S LITTLE BROTHER HAS AUTISM

    by Broseph

    I think it's out right stupid to go after this film.there's a difference between parody which is filled with truth and down right maliciousness like Michael Savage's recent bashing of children and parents of autistic children.when i heard tom cruise was playing a hollywood mogul in this film i'm sure loosely based on Sumner M. Redstone, i thought this will finaly give us average movie viewer what holllywood is really like.i'm sure many big name actors have been specificaly told take on the role of a retard or cripple for that oscar gold.the fact that's being parodied and i have no doubt it's gonna be fucking hilarious because it's shrouded in truth.as we all know LIFE SUCKS at time we all have different things in life that cause us pain or we take personal.but it's our ability to find humor in these things that get's us thru. and as for harry's or anybody elses movie reveiws they do not sway whether or not i will see a film.for me i see a trailer or read a description and decide whether i will invest my time in the film

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Free Speech has been under attack since 1791

    by GodMars

    Paramount and Dreamworks aren't paying attention to these people, why is this website?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Kevinwillis, I stand by my statement.

    by rbatty024

    Granted it's anecdotal evidence so take what you will from it, but if you're just looking at movie boycotts it is my experience that conservatives are worse then liberals. <p> Your ultra-feminist story is pretty damn funny. If those women wanted to denounce 18th century art they should have written a paper about it or at least taken part in a class discussion. The marketplace of ideas and all that. In that case a boycott does nothing. People like that give feminists a bad name. I've known plenty of feminists who are perfectly reasonable but often its about the noise rather than the number. <p> I would also like to add to the list the recent Kathy Griffin scandal where she told Jesus to "suck it."

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:41 a.m. CST

    "More Loonies on the Conservative End"?

    by chrth

    Are you kidding? Have you been to the DU?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Do-gooders of that variety suck

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Political correctness sucks. If they'd take a step back and think about it, Stiller is doing a send-up of other films where actors portray characters with mental disabilities (Regarding Henry, Sling Blade, Forrest Gump, etc.). He's not trying to make fun of retards, he's mocking people who play retards. Although I'm sure his portrayal is probably funny (I haven't seen it). These people would get more positive things done if they focused their attention elsewhere.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:54 a.m. CST

    And Mori, why don't you calm down, too?

    by Drunken Rage

    You have so much loathing for the TBers, are so fucking condescending toward your readers. And why are your panties in such a bunch re: uncapie's article: "But next time you decide that you want to use the AICN platform to shill some friend's work, I'll make sure to remind Harry of your infantile rant above, and you can feel free to fucking shove it." Waah! Waah! I'm gonna tell on you! Waah!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Liberals DO NOT support free speech.

    by W3bzpinn3r

    Liberals are fascists who demand people only say things they deem correct. You can't question them. You can't question their ideas. If you do, they mount protests against you. Liberals have been attacking conservative talk radio for decades. Welcome to the real world, hollywood. It's not all fun and games.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8 a.m. CST

    Oh, and Michael Savage did NOT bash autism.

    by W3bzpinn3r

    He bashed the doctors who over prescribe autism. Many doctors and therapists are quick to label kids autistic. He is against that, because that makes things more difficult to get the REALLY autistic kids help, when services are being wasted on brats that just need a good spanking.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Up till a cpuple of years ago...

    by emeraldboy

    studios would do press screenings within 10 days of a film opening. Now its three. or not at all. The reason for this is that studios hate print journalism with a passion. this is a new phenomena. in the paast if a film was an embarrasment the studios would cancel press screenings forcing critics to see the movie with mere mortals ie the paying and it didnt stop a film getting an absolute mauling. With indy 4 all of the press plaudits were put on to tv ads. that didnt stop some people here myself included kicking the shite out of the film. The film made money but it was killed financially by The Dark knight. Which looks like bing the biggest grossing sequel of all time. By the end of the year which will include DVD sales. Batman TDK will be the first billion dollar comic book film. This film is critic proof, audiences and crtics love it. There are so many films that I have missed you wouldnt believe. I have a learning Difficulty and I think the ban given to life of brian in Ireland is outrageous. anyone who lived in the Uk during the 1990s will remember the nonsense spouted by the great Christopher Tookey, who hated Cronenberg's crash so much that he called for boycott of all sony products. load of bollocks.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:07 a.m. CST

    The thought police are coming...The thought police are coming...

    by jimbubble

    Only this time they have motorised wheel chairs. Liberals...now there`s a bunch of hypocritical cock munchers!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:14 a.m. CST

    W3bzpinn3r

    by Broseph

    “ Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    What the fuck happened to AICN over the weekend?

    by Lost Jarv

    seriously, mass bannings, tantrums fron writers (Uncapie now joins Mirajeff), reviews up and down. <p>Fucking weird.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    What America Are You Living In, ' Fireproof ' ?

    by PTSDPete

    The extreme-Right would impede on your privacy, disregard your rights, break your laws, steal your money, lie to your face, imperil your safety, degrade your health, pollute your air supply, downgrade your schools, and drive you into poverty so THEY could retrofit society in THEIR TERMS. And they HAVE. In fact, they just DID. And they are currently building their survivalist camps and churches - so they can have their refuge while WIPING THE ' NON-BELIEVERS ' OFF THE FACE OFF THE EARTH WHEN THEIR PHONY ' HOLY WAR ' COMES ( which apparently has just began ) Didn't they make you all invade Iraq lately ? For all intents and purposes, THAT crusader-jihadist behavior hardly shows them wanting to be ' left alone '. It doesn't even look like they're gonna go away, either. Fuck off with your self-aggrandizing paranoia and look at the reality, loser.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Pissed at all the ignorance in these parts :

    by PTSDPete

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    regarding liberals.....

    by emeraldboy

    I see and hear the spread of liberalism every day. I am fully convinced that these people want us to return to the stone age. Last year we had an election. Which returned Fianna fail for its third term. So that is 18 out of twenty years they have been in power. The govt now consists of Independents(who made secret pacts with bertie), Pds and the greens. <p> When going into govt with fianna fail, the greens were told let us look after the economy. What the greens did was devious. The demanded and got the inclusion of carbon tax in the budget. for things like SUVS and yes we do have them here. All homes being built in the future will have to have a carbon guide regulator to see how carbon neutral your house is. next is meat. thats right, greens want everyone to turn vegetarian, because meat is linked to climate change, cows and methane. but perhaps the most insidious thing that I have ever heard is green movements attack on children. children and climate change. a bunch of interefering busy bodies in the UK, commissioned report which found that new born babies produced C02. This group demanded the reduction in child birth and argued that all men should get the snip after their second child and then there is space. Rockets produce C02. The greens are against space tourism. IN a nutshell, the green movement is attacking our way of life. IT wants us to stop driving cars, stop eating meat, Stop having children and stop flying in our areoplanes. It is time i feel o stand up to these bullies. but I think it is too late for that. they have the science on thier side so they keep saying. Anyone who disagrees with them is bopped over the head and silenced into submission.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST

    liberals are really..

    by emeraldboy

    the most il-liberal people.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Don't forget the 'Fairness Doctrine'

    by gboybama

    An Orwellian titled piece of legislation if ever there was one. Isn't it bad enough that we're forced to fund Bill fucking Moyers with taxpayer dollars? Now, if this bill passes, those radio hosts whose views are consumed and paid for voluntarily by free Americans are going to be forced to compete with government subsidized 'balance?' Communism, I say. There's one reason Air America is a financial disaster. No one needs another liberal news outlet. There's simply no demand. NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, NYT and LAT have got it covered. At least FOX offers boths sides. And again, viewers (from both sides) have voted with their clicker.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    not meaning to create more "embargo" controversy

    by Cedar_Room

    but there are reviews of the Clone Wars everywhere. The BBC even has an article where it brings them all together (take out spaces): <p> http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/enterta inment/7553560.stm <p> so there may possibly be a simple explanation for it - but if all these reputable reviews are out there, surely this embargo means jack shit?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Thin Skins rule us all...

    by RobotDevil007

    Great thinking retards.... cater to the loud-mouthed, thinned skinned, politically correct asshats who ARE NOT GOING TO SEE THE MOVIE at the expense of the fanboys who will actually be PAYING FOR TICKETS. Hollywood is full of the dumbest dipshits on Earth and it's decisions like this that keep me from becoming sympathetic when I hear how tough the business has become. Of course the movie business is getting tough... EVERY business gets tough when you run it like poor RETARD SIMPLE JACK.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:53 a.m. CST

    YACK: "THE PEOPLE ARE DYING, MR. LUCAS"

    by BringingSexyBack

    lol!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Hey Moriarty....I take exception with that "wretched" comment

    by nukedthefridge

    My site, nukethefride.com is not wretched. Contemptible maybe, but not wretched. Geez, get with the program. As far as your comments about Uncapie, the guy is an upstanding individual and a very talented writer. He has never written a review of a movie for me that he has any connection to. He knows how I feel about that sort of thing. At nukethefridge.com you get honest reviews that aren't tainted by personal stakes, friendships with the "filmmakers", or are paid by the studios. And as for his problem with Harry's review of "Journey" it isn't because he has a personal stake in it, its because Harry's review was juvenile. You're telling me that you can't find a better way to say you didn't like a movie than to personally insult all the actors in the movie, and invoke the "steaming bowl of dick" comment?" Yea, thats some well written prose my friend. Personally, that wasn't my biggest problem with that review, it was the stupidity he showed saying that Anita Briem's character was from Finland, when she was from Iceland, the setting of the movie, and his contention that her being able to slip between speaking Icelandic (or Finnish according to Harry) and perfect English was unbelievable. If Harry would ever get out of Austin long enough to travel the world a bit, he would know most people in Europe speak multiple languages, English being one of them. Wretched my ass!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:06 a.m. CST

    PTSDPete

    by Dr. Butthole

    There are so many things wrong with your post, I don't know where to start. I will instead laugh at all the irony you have put fourth. Thanks, buddy.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    idk if its just that you're all trolls, or actually neo-conserva

    by dr sauch

    strange place, this forum.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Who cares?

    by papabendi

    Everything realted to Star Wars has been a piece of shit after Empire. Just pathetic childish crap. In fact anything Lucas touches these days is garbage. Indy4 was so laughably stupid and wooden that every time Ford stepped onto screen I thought someone had thrown a chair into the room.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Harry, my hero

    by Ilteren

    My conspiracy theory is that Harry knew about the embargo all along, but chose to warn us of the impending tidal wave of shit. Even at the threat of his own well being. So count yourselves the lucky few that read the review. Heed the warning and flee to higher ground, go see Dark Knight for the twentieth time!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    If 'Retard' offends just substitute it with - Motard

    by toadkillerdog

    That word is courtesy of the LiberalWarrior. He probably would not mind.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST

    If you're not taking Muslim censorship seriously...

    by Iowa Snot Client

    Then quit crying about this PC crap. No one's gonna pull Tropic Thunder from release because of death threats.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST

    One of the Funniest Things Mori Has Ever Written

    by The Funketeer

    "Harry, being and adult who works in the real world." If that's what passes for adult behavior these days, our world is doomed.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Harry, you hippocrite. Shame on you.

    by Uncle Stan

    Waving the flag while you let Lucasfilms sodomize you slowly, over and over, with no lubrication.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Harry, my hero

    by Ilteren

    My conspiracy theory is that Harry knew about the embargo all along, but chose to warn us of the impending tidal wave of shit. Even at the threat of his own well being. So count yourselves the lucky few that read the review. Heed the warning and flee to higher ground, go see Dark Knight for the twentieth time!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Are you still fat, Harry?

    by HoboCode

    Didn't that band do anyhting? You should have dropped a hunge by now at least.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST

    about that embargo....

    by Cedar_Room

    someone forgeot to tell Massawrym too.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST

    about that embargo....

    by Cedar_Room

    someone forgot to tell Massawrym too.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Michael Savage is a milky load of horse spunk

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Sitting atop a steaming fly infested mound of elephant shit. The contempt he shows for the average American is mind boggling. This guy, along with Neil Boortz, insult their audience on a daily basis only their audience is too stupid to realize it.<p>And get over the "Fox News delivers both sides" garbage. You want to know what two sides they deliver? It's called their hand as they slap you with the front and back. CNN and MSNBC are garbage news outlets. In fact, referring to them as "news" is insulting to the few independent journalists out there that have maintained their integrity. But Fox News is a farce. And the fact that it's the number one rated cable news outlet means nothing.<p>1 out of every 3 Americans still approves of the job Bush is doing, the majority of Americans couldn't point Iraq out on a map or name one world leader and looking at some of the top ten TV programs (America's Got Talent, 2 1/2 Men, So You Think You Can Dance and Wipeout) reveals that we like our entertainment to be dumbed down and asinine.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Confusing Liberals and Leftists

    by kevinwillis.net

    Most "liberals", IMHO, tend to believe in the marketplace of ideas, and that conservatives are evil and want to destroy the world.<br><br> Leftists want to shut you up. They don't want you to talk about religion (unless it's something anti-Christian), differences between women and men (unless it's the oppressiveness of the male patriarchy and how men are natural predators and creeps), handicaps of any kind in any context that someone might possibly be offended, or anything that involves sex being positive, or feminine qualities being attractive. There's a real difference.<br><br> Liberals, who think conservatives of all stripes are evil/stupid and want to steal/destroy everything while twirling their Snidely Whiplash mustaches are mistaken, and may support single payer healthcare, but they don't despise free expression (which threatens the leftist vision of an elite utopia) the way real leftists do. They are as different from average liberals as survivalist-camp building militia types are from your average work-a-day conservative. <br><br>We all know what a big lib Harry is, and what a superficial and cliched view of conservatives he has . . . but he's outraged by this leftist, politically-correct speech oppression as anybody else.<br><br> And the guy who had everybody bring their Dixie Chick's CDs to his radio station to run over them with a bulldozer was a douche bag.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Dingbatty, As a Christian and a Conservative

    by kevinwillis.net

    I feel compelled to reply to this: <br><br> "Jesus fucked a goat and wiped his dick with the American flag?" <br><br> Yawn.<br><br> My apologies if you found my response oppressive or censorious.<br><br> Zzzzzzzzz.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Statement

    by beelkay

    Well, at least on changes will be made to the film (hopefully). People overreact so often nowadays. This is like the overreaction to the Obama cartoon on the cover of The New Yorker. In my book, you can pretty much do anything in the service of comedy and satire. It may or may not work, but you should have the ability to do it anyway. In this case, it looks like it does work, which makes it even more aggravating that some people are treating the offensiveness as a serious issue.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    This reminds me of a controversy

    by Omegaman

    about a recent Snickers commercial. It had Mr T shooting Snickers bars (I think) from the bed of a truck at a speed walker (you know, those guys that race by walking fast. Anyhow, the gay community got all upset about it because they thought that was making fun of gay people LOL, because I guess people look gay when they speed walk????. They actually did get the commercial pulled. One of the dumbest things Iv ever heard. Just another example of PC madness.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Hey guys! What's happening in this talkback?

    by ZeroCorpse

    How's everybody doing?<p> Oh.<p> Ohhh. <p> Oh my. <p> Well. . . I'm still here, in case anyone cares, and I actually agree with Mori (Wow. That keeps happening. How weird.) and find a lot of the newer talkbackers who are raising a stink over this embargo situation to be classless losers. <p> Harry's taste is his own. Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I don't, but I still respect his right to his opinion because IT'S HIS SITE and he's been kind enough to let me have a say here, in the talkbacks, for a very long time. The rules here are pretty loose, guys. We can curse, be downright obscene, and talk like film-loving geeks would really talk. Other sites insist on censoring our conversations, making them "work safe", and sanitizing our thoughts if they wouldn't be printable in the newest issue of "Highlights" Magazine. AICN has been the most open forum I've been in that doesn't have a bunch of 4chan dorks running around in it typing in idiot language. <p> So cut the guy some slack... He has to abide by the rules set forth for his review because he wants to be able to do more reviews and see more screenings of future films, and WE benefit from his ability to do that. <p> If you're going to blame anyone, blame Lucasfilm for putting out what appears to be a turkey, and then telling reviewers not to tell anyone about it until it's too late to save them their $10 admission. <p> I'll defend Star Wars most of the time, but Harry is entitled to his opinion, and considering he's more forgiving than I am when it comes to Star Wars, I'm definitely a bit worried about this film. . . But I will still see it, because it's Star Wars, and because I'm a huge geek and a complete sucker with my own opinions that may be different from Harry's. <P> Seriously guys--- Calm the fuck down.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Oh, and "retard" is a perfectly good word.

    by ZeroCorpse

    Oversensitive idiots need to get over it. It's a short form of "retarded" which was completely acceptable for many years. Changing from "retarded" to "mentally disabled" doesn't change the meaning AT ALL. You're still saying the exact same thing.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Vern: On Being Retarded

    by kevinwillis.net

    "Anyway what I'm saying is I can understand why they would be up in arms about some of these things. But in the case of this movie, they are COMPLETELY WRONG. If anything they should be praising this movie because it is very brutally and accurately satirizing the way Hollywood exploits disabilities."<br><br>That's kind of the point regard the objection to leftism (rather than liberalism, a distinction I choose to draw even if other's do not) and political correctness generally--it casts far too wide a net, and in attempting to be "sensitive", ends up attacking people who are, by and large, on their side. Indeed, what are the fundamentally arguing? That any reference to a mentally handicapped person (or the portrayal of one) in a manner that is common for average people, who get lampooned in all sorts of ways all the time, is actually kind of destructive. That there can be no throughtful humor directed at actors who portray mentally handicapped people in an attempt to court Oscar--much less actual mentally handicapped people, who are, in the end, human as well--is pernicious. The end result is to advocate that references to the mentally handicapped be expunged from popular media, so that the only safe or allowable place to portray the mentally handicapped is in PSAs between the real movies that people actually want. <br><br>These folks may be trying to protect the mentally handicapped, but they are, in truth, advocating that the mentally handicapped be banished to a pop-culture ghetto. Then, you get to add on top of that that "Simple Jack" was making fun of actors who portray the mentally handicapped, not the mentally handicapped!<br><br> What did these people have to say about Johnny Knoxville in "The Ringer"? Or that similar Southpark episode where Cartman pretends to be mentally challenged--and then the handicapped folks start beating him in the games. I don't think it's the best interest of the mentally handicapped to set them up as a special class that it's too dangerous to talk about or portray in creative media, lest you invite a boycott or a legal challenge.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    On the "Retard" thing...

    by onemanarmy

    I'm guessing that none of these protesting do good groups have even heard of the pile of steaming shit know as The Ringer. Maybe because Johnny Knoxville and friends weren't making anywhere near as much money as the Tropic Thunder people. But still...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Those nutty liberals...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    ...the ones that are SO liberal that they in effect, become conservative. The ones that are absolutely, positively 100% open-minded... until you disagree with them. It's pretty hilarious when situations like this crop up. I'm proud of Paramount and Dreamworks for not giving in to this kind of knee-jerk stupidity.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Copyright infringement = copy/paste Harry's review.

    by ZeroCorpse

    Don't give me "free speech" whining, dude. If someone copies and pastes SOMEONE ELSE'S writing, it's copyright infringement, so you really can't claim "free speech" when violating the site's TOS and reposting Harry's review. It's not free speech when the speech is comprised of someone else's copyrighted work. Sorry.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    rbatty024: I Respect Your Standing By

    by kevinwillis.net

    . . . your statement. My point was, anecdotally, my experience has been exactly opposite. Although a number of personal experiences in art school, that I probably wouldn't have had at a trade school, are figured in there.<br><br>I have no time for boycotts, myself. I'm fine with people making personal decisions--I just can't stand to see that persons movie because of their politics (I don't have that problem myself, but if someone wants to make their decisions that way, more power to 'em).<br><br>In the end, whether there are more loonies on the left or the right, we may never agree. But I think we can agree that ideas should be set free, and compete in the marketplace of ideas, and if "Simple Jack" is too offensive, let's just let people make their own decisions about how to lead their own lives. <br><br>In this case, the side I'm on is Harry's. This kind of stuff is nonsense, and SimpleJack.com should be back up. The thought police are attacking viral marketing campaigns now! When will it stop?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    haha Harry just got played by Paramount

    by ArcadianDS

    There's no protest.<p> There are no PC Police protesting this movie<p> This is all a marketing scheme to get everyone to rush to the theater to see what all the hub-bub is about, and to "stick it" to the man.<p> and Harry flopped for it like a dropped fish.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    They Aren't So Liberal They Become Conservative

    by kevinwillis.net

    Conservatism embraces free speech (yes, even the sort that, in an appropriate venue, depicts Jesus and George pushing pooping on each other, ala Southpark). These "liberal" are, in fact, such leftists that they become puritanical, objecting to any offensive language, any argument against their positions (you disagree? Heresy!), any sexual depiction of women, and on and on. As you might note from the number of sexual scandals conservatives get caught in, being conservative is not analgous with being puritanical. ;)

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    inglorious renarns

    by ArcadianDS

    in case you weren't aware, a 'renarn' is someone who is SO painfully retarded, that an actual retard looks at him and says, "man nat dude is renarned.'

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Gboybama: Bill Moyers

    by kevinwillis.net

    Take one Rush Limbaugh with a cup of Sean Hannity, two full cartons of Ann Coulter, one-and-a-half Michael Savages, turn upside down so it becomes a liberal, and then fund it with tax payer dollars until it espouses every neo-Marxist doctrine possible in the most glowingly positive terms. That's how you make a Bill Moyers!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST

    kevinwillis.net - ZeroCorpse - the Real Reason

    by toadkillerdog

    You make some good distinctions between liberals and leftists, but where you and others break down, is the reasoning behind the groups protest. It has nothing to do with either being liberal or leftist. It is a zero tolerance policy. And I think anyone with an ounce of reason realizes that sort of policy is not the exclusive province of any political ideology or leaning. Consider: Gun Guntrol. Anti-Gun control advocates will fight every bill in every dtate, that even hints of limits of any kind. Sensible or otherwise. Why: Because it is a zero tolernace policy. They believe that any crack in the dam, will widen with any bill that gets passed that in any way weakens Gun ownership - even when it is tangential. The same goes with Abortion foes. Now, those groups are hardly what you would call liberal. The zero tolerance policy - in this case, extends to zero tolerance for portrayals of the mentally handicapped in a derisive fashion. It is also a way of generating publicity for their cuase. Zero Tolerance is what PETA employs as well. Like I said earlier, it knows know politcal bounds.<p> Zero - Retard has become a pejorative. Words and their meaning evolve over time.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Yeh like Conservatives care about your opinion..

    by quantize

    they'll take away those 'rights' faster than the wacky Liberals will try to tell you what to think..

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    unionJACKass.webs.com . . .

    by kevinwillis.net

    "As an atheist and an Englishman" . . .<br><br> Christopher Hitchens? Is that you?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    That should have read "in every state"

    by toadkillerdog

    Not every dtate. Typos. Typos.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    to quote Carlin " Changing the name doesn't change the condition

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Harry saw the pahantom Menace...

    by emeraldboy

    Before anyone else. and if i am not mistaken. He was given a video copy of the final edit. Know either that story was bullshit or he did see it before anyone else. to this day he has never explained, how he saw the movie before anyone else. nor has ever explained the level of venom he poured over xmen-3. that was even before the film came out. He went way over the top. if you find laughing at cripples funny, then you are a borderline pyscho/bully. Tom cruise is a fantastist. But this site is owned by somebody who a few years ago compared himself to tom Cruise. Remember Harry review for Mission impossible. I do and I still do. Great reviewers always reference other films in their reviews or can connect movies to real world events. The best review of a film that I have ever read in modern times is philip french's review of the lord of the rings. Philip french was not only a radio-producer for the BBC but he was also the Observers literary editor. He has been the observers film critic for 4 decades. Kermode and french are two of the best film critics working in UK today. Philip french has passed on his knowledge to younger producers and he was very good friens with the late anthony minghella.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I'm Liberal, and you're retarded.

    by ZeroCorpse

    Just like with Tipper Gore and her crusade against music in the 80s, there are some people who happen to be liberals who are also completely deluded. I'm liberal, but I completely disagree with the PMRC and I disagree with the idea of censorship of art, even if it's hateful, unless it's specifically calling for violence or crusading against others (REAL 'hate speech') -- Calling someone a retard is not the same as saying something like, "Retards are a blight upon society and they must be eliminated." (this is just an EXAMPLE. Calm down.) <p> Calling someone a "fag" or "nigger" qualifies as possible hate speech because those words have a history of violence associated with them. There was never an organized hate group formed against retarded people-- There's no Non-Retard Resistance. There's no church that protests at funerals with signs that say, "GOD HATES RETARDS" -- You just can't claim "hate speech" when it comes to a non-PC term being used in lieu of the PC term when the non-PC term has no history of being associated with hate speech, hate groups, or hate-spreading cults. <p> These so-called "liberals" who try to censor things are NOT true liberals. Maybe they think they're being sensitive to the plight of the average retard, but they're really just making fools of themselves and embarrassing other liberals. Their crusade is clearly a selfish one, designed to make them look like compassionate people who are "better" than you. It's not in line with liberal ideals at all. <p> As a liberal, I recognize that you have EVERY RIGHT to make whatever art you want, and say what you want within the confines of that artwork as long as you don't call for others do cause harm to a specific class of people. <p> Those white-power twin girls who sing racist songs? THAT is hate speech. They call for the demise of other races, which can only be construed as a threat. <p> "retarded" doesn't even mean what they think it means, these days. It's just a substitute for the phrase "extremely stupid" now. The original meaning has been lost, and shouldn't offend because it's almost NEVER used to describe the mentally disabled. It's almost always used to describe a normal person who just ACTS stupid. <p> Language these days more often calls Paris Hilton "retarded" than it would a kid with Down's Syndrome.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I wish I had retard strength.

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Zero Tolerance . . .

    by kevinwillis.net

    There is a limit to what can be effectively commented on in one talkback. Yes, lots of folks on opposite ends of the ideological spectrum engage in zero tolerance policies to prevent their being a crack in the door, and they go for sometimes outrageous "progress" regarding their ultimate aims--completely banning abortion, completely banning guns--under the same premise. "Let's go for it all, then settle for some." <br><br>However, varying groups duking it out seems to be what human beings, generally, end up settling on. No attempt to gerrymander it, from campaign finance reform to the electoral college to the kings of old--has really succeeding in preventing it. I'm just glad tranfers of ideological power don't end up with a lot of folks getting their heads cut off (in America, I mean). That, at least, seems like progress to me.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Misguided

    by Rollo Tomassi

    I saw and throughly enjoyed "Tropic Thunder". I also happen to be someone who is really sensitive, perhaps overly so, to things that are offensive to the mentally handicapped. To me "retard" is as bad as the N-word. But, again, having seen "Tropic Thunder", Hollywood and actors are the target, not the mentally handicapped.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    ZeroCorpse:

    by kevinwillis.net

    "Retards are a blight upon society and they must be eliminated."<br><br> You said it. Can't take it back. I'm forming a protest group.<br><br> Almost all liberals were against the PMRC. There was a huge nanny-state element to it, but, as I recall, the senate hearings at which folks like John Denver and Frank Zappa and Donny Osmond appeared together, were bi-partisan. There are plenty of folks on the left and the right that see big government controlling things (from your healthcare to your CD player) as the natural order of things. <br><br>Man, I remember listening to those hearings. Very pathetic, bi-partisan time-wasting about what people sing about on their pressed vinyl musical discs!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    They don't cut off heads here...

    by ZeroCorpse

    You get cancer instead, or die in a plane crash, or "hang yourself" in your mother's shed, or get your head blown off while visiting Dallas, or "overdose" on pills, or. . . <p> Well, let's just say the CIA or Secret Service (SS) aren't sitting on their asses all the time. They have work to do.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Retarded has a Specific Definition

    by kevinwillis.net

    Words have meanings. Retarded means, in essense, developmentally deficient. Unable to mature or complete an expected development arc. Etc. There are lots of good people to describe as retarded. Ever met anybody who was socially retarded? What, you can't say that?<br><br> It's bad enough that David Bowie can't talking about "smoking a fag" now. What's up with that?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    PMRC

    by ZeroCorpse

    Yeah, that was some fun stuff. The best part was when all the pro-censorship types banked on "good, clean, wholesome" John Denver to side with them, and he basically said they were full of shit for trying to censor art. <p> John Denver saved free speech in the 80s. Go figure.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST

    ZeroCorpse: Jimmy Carter is Still Alive

    by kevinwillis.net

    We have peaceful transfer of power. Period. Sure, the CIA may have killed Marylin Monroe inbetween trips down to Roswell to help harness the alien technology they use to bug all of our conversations (by monitoring the fillings in our teeth) . . . but our ex-presidents aren't beheaded upon leaving office. Some may disagree, but I consider that progress, given the historical record of transfers-of-power in the days of King George and Cromwell.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Bowie smoking a fag...

    by ZeroCorpse

    Well, as a HUGE fan who has met the man, I can say that when he says "smoking a fag" he might mean he's having a cigarette, or he might really mean he's blowing a transvestite. You never know.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Well said, Zero

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    As a liberal who leans moderate or even outright conservative on some issues, I take offense at the PC police myself. There's a clear line between being offensive and flinging hate speech. I'm offended every time I listen to Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly or Savage (which I do so that conservatives can't accuse me of not hearing the other side) but under no circumstances do I want to ban their programs. Those ten digits at the ends of our hands aren't just for stuffing food in our faces, they can be used to turn things off as well.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    PMRC: Donny Osmond, Too

    by kevinwillis.net

    And they were upfront. They wanted to do clean, wholesome stuff. And getting a G-rating plastered over their albums that basically categorized them as toddler-pop would have been a financial death to them.<bR><br> In other words, the well-meaning nanny-staters, in trying to keep music "clean", would have dealt a financial death blow to clean, wholesome "rockers" like John Denver and Donny Osmond. What would have happened to New Kids on the Block if every album had had a big "G-Guaranteed Kid Friendly!" plastered on every album?<br><br>Not to mention the record stores, who didn't want the liability of policing music purchases and checking IDs.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Carter has his head...

    by ZeroCorpse

    But you can bet there were some people in the government who would have liked to see him choke on a peanut before his term was up. <p> Things are MUCH better here than in many places in the world. I'm just saying that we're not exactly Utopia yet. We're actually a few steps closer to Oceania right now. <p> I don't really care one way or the other. Revolutionary thoughts are for the young. I just want my neighbors to stop making so much noise and get their kids off my lawn.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    I Thought Bowie's Bi-Days Were Behind Him

    by kevinwillis.net

    So to speak. And you lucky dog! Bowie rocks. I remember picking up a 3-dollar vinyl (at Target, in a dump bin) of very early Bowie years ago, with tracks like "Uncle Arthur" and "Rubber Band" and just falling in love with it. I had the mainstream best of Bowie CDs at the time, but it made me fill out the collection. What happened to classics like "Loving the Alien"? Loved that song, you never hear it these days. Changes, Space Oddity, Modern Love, China Girl--I still occasionally hear those. But never "Loving the Alien".<br><br> "Please, Mr. Gravedigger" . . . best song. Ever.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Kid friendly - - Hannah Montana

    by ZeroCorpse

    I think the current crop of manufactured Disney pop stars are precisely what we would have seen in the 80s if the PMRC had their way. Instead, it went the other way, with "Explicit" stickers becoming a SELLING POINT for artists. <p> In the end, the PMRC did more good for 2 Live Crew than any marketing ever would have. They downright sucked as a band, but because the PMRC (and Jack Thompson, especially) made such a fuss about them, they gaind a lot more fame than they ever would have if they'd been left to warble their lame lyrics on their own. The opponents just gave them a bigger megaphone, is all. <p> In retrospect, I'd rather listen to 2 Live Crew than Hannah Montana and that other Disney drivel. I'm just glad I was a Zappa fan.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11 a.m. CST

    Keep voting Democrat...

    by Immortal_Fish

    Who could possibly be surprised about this? The majority of you people fall lockstep behind a presidential candidate that one cannot criticize without being maligned as racist. Knee-jerk political correctness will result in the election of an unexperienced man we know too little about just because it "feels so good" to vote for him.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    And the award for MISSING THE POINT goes to...

    by ZeroCorpse

    Immortal Fish, for missing the last two hours of talkback and just posting his knee-jerk conservative rant which, ironically, accuses democrats of knee-jerk political correctness. <p> WTG, Fish. Keep copying and pasting Rush Limbaugh's newsletter all over the Internets.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Bannings, anger, fear, aggression, and hatred

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    This is a dark time for AICN. I almost re-posted Harry’s Clone Wars review because someone asked to see it. It’s weird that I even saved it, really weird. <p><p>So I’m glad I didn’t re-post it, I don’t ever want to be banned, I like AICN, I’ve read it since…I don’t know, ’97 or ’98 even though I only started posting last year.<p><p> The anger displayed here is quite surprising. The whole Uncapie thing. Yeah, that was one mean post, but so many others insult the writers of this site all the time and in a far worse manner. I’m not defending Uncapie, but so many others write things just as bad and demeaning. Seriously, some people just use the talkbacks to insult the writers.<p><p>As a writer, I have written and posted things that I regretted later. So we should realize that some people write off the cuff and this forum is practically designed for such knee-jerk writing. I know, because I’m just as guilty as most of you. In all honesty, I love reading a talkback post that makes me smile or laugh. Though I am sick of so many people insulting the writers, but trolling is what trolls do.<p><p> Star Wars brings out the best and worst of us all. We have a passion for it, love it, hate it, sort of like it, ignore it or whatever. It surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds this geek universe together.<p><p> Some of us mature, some of us don’t. Some of the Star Wars films mature with us, some of them don’t. It seems that we spend so much time searching for the next film or series of films that will do to us what the original trilogy did. For many of us this is our quest, whether we’re aware of it or not. It’s sad and tragic, but we also carry that torch to find A NEW HOPE.<p><p> Of course there are many talkbackers that are mature. There are many talkbackers that don’t have the same connection to STAR WARS that many of us have or had. There are many talkbackers that understand. There are so many that don’t.<p><p> Banning destroys the freedom of this site. It also protects site. Paradoxical. Insulting the writers doesn’t protect the site. Being insulted by the writers doesn’t protect the site. Sometimes the writers themselves write the most disgusting and demeaning descriptions. I can literally go from one post that’s highly intelligent to another post that is pure trash. That’s why I like the site. There’s a range. AICN is a guilty pleasure.<p><p> I wish that AICN never had to apologize for anything, that Harry actually had the freedom to write whatever he wants, but that’s not the world we live in. There are consequences. There are laws. There are codes of honor that even a free-minded movie reviewer must succumb to. Even Harry must censor himself. But I respect what Harry wants AICN to be, the vision he has. It’s similar to what I want every STAR WARS film to be; something greater than itself that allows us to become something greater than ourselves

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    LONG LIVE PONDSCUM!!!!

    by rhcp2sweet

    APACHE GUNSHIP!!!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Kooks is innocent.

    by ZeroCorpse

    It's actually about David and Angela's newborn son (Zowie). Bowie wrote it for Zowie when he got news of his birth. It was meant to sound like a 70's Neil Young tune.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Well said, Stereotypical Evil Archer.

    by ZeroCorpse

    And damn you for having the longest screen name I've had to type in a few years! <p> Seriously, though, you were spot-on.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Immortal_Fish

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I won't vote for Obama because of knee-jerk political correctness. I'll vote for him because I want to watch that tumor on McCain's face rupture on live t.v. when he hears the news he lost. Anyone who would vote for that crusty douch-bag deserves to eat a big bowl of John Goodman's shit after a visit to Hometown Buffet.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    My son is Autistic, and...

    by IceCreamSoldier!

    Before you "talk back" to me, please read my entire comment. My son is Autistic, and I have upon occasion made complaints to various producers when they've used "Being Retarded" as a springboard for humour. I've even written Harry and a few others on this site to PLEASE ask that they try to use a more appropriate snynomym for "stupid", rather than resorting to a word that your average Junior High kid would use. Please everyone, understand this, when someone is clinically "mentally retarded", it means that they're operating under limits that you don't have. This is almost unbearable to those that care for them. Seeing my son mocked, or his condition mocked, is difficult to bear under the best of circumstances. In the case of "Tropic Thunder", I saw what they were doing and after thinking about it, decided that the humour wasn't intended to be at the expense of people suffering from the condition, but still wished that they would have not tried to find the humorous angle on mental retardation. But you know what, I DID have to think about it. I wish, wish, wish with all my heart that I didn't have to feel sensitive to it, but I do, because I live with it every day, and if I don't stick up for my son or his dignity, no one else will. This doesn't make me right wing, or even a "do gooder". It just means that I'm a Dad, and if you were in the same situation, you would occasionally feel that an email or two to a producer that intentionally mocked your son's condition was worth sending. I have a feeling that the "Do Gooders" in the organization are mostly people like me - either parents or relatives of those with mental retardation. Their motives are almost certainly good, and the fuss about "freedom of speech" overlooks the fact that they're not telling anyone that its against the law to use mental retardation as the foundation for humor - they're just saying that its not in good taste. I agree with that perspective. I'll fight for your right to offend me and my son by making jokes in public about "riding the short bus", but I'll still wish that you had the maturity and dignity to not make the jokes in the first place. Here at AICN, I think that will be a very long wait indeed.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST

    I would never use the word RETARDED for autism...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I generally only use the word RETARDED when referring to people with low intelligence who make bad decisions. Its the same with FAG....I have never used it in reference to a gay person-- only stupid people.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST

    but anyway.....BOYCOTT TROPIC THUNDER!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Not because it makes fun of retards, but because Ben Stiller is involved!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Ice Cream Soldier

    by Dick Bahls

    You seem like a good guy and a good father, and I understand your point. When many of us use these slang words, we're not doing it to mock people who really were born with these handicaps, we're doing it to mock people who shouldn't have any reason to behave like they have these problems, but do anyway. When I say something like "Fuck that retard Lucas, and his little troll Steven Sanshit", believe me, it is totally directed at them. I am in no way meaning that people with learning disorders are bad & shouldn't be cared for, or even that little ugly people shouldn't be loved.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    krushjudgement

    by Tacoloft

    I thought I was the only one! :)

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar

    Fred agree - up to a point about eliminating usage of certain words. Words have power. But as long as humans look to insult one another, they will always look for words that have 'sanctioned' meaning - such as from the medical establishment, and then turn them into a derisive one. It reminds Fred of a David Brin story. An Alien species came into contact with Earthlings. The Alien species was known to like words of insult. So, when the aliens asked the earthlings to name a particularly offensive and vile earth creature - as part of their 'research' into earth culture they said, the earthlings knew that the aliens only wanted the name of the creature in order to turn it into an insult aimed at earthlings. So the earthlings gave them a creature. They said the most vile and offensive creature on earth was - a squirrel. After that, the aliens referred derisively to earthlings as 'jeeky skirls' - they had a speech impediment and could not say squirrel. <p> If the medical establishment said 'pickle' was the new way of describing a mentally challenged person, Fred believe it would be the new insult word!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Dick Bahls

    by IceCreamSoldier!

    When You say "Even little ugly people should be loved" I presume you are referring to George Lucas. :)

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    "or even that little ugly people shouldn't be loved."

    by ironic_name

    you win. best sentence.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, noon CST

    Ice Cream Soldier

    by Dick Bahls

    Sorry, I was actually refering to one of his henchmen, the nefarious Steven Sanshit, who helps him rob from the poor fanboys and give to himself.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    It's still ok to insult the dirty illegal Mexicans, right?

    by F-18

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    embargo? bannings? now I know why ....

    by irrelevntelefant

    they never posted my Pineapple Express review! its a RETARDED CONSPIRACY!!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    My thoughts

    by TerryMalloy

    I haven't read this site since '96, but I still think it's pretty cool. I also think it's unfair to accuse Harry of being a sell-out based on half assed conjecture. It's his fucking site. If he doesn't want to piss off Warner Brothers, then he shouldn't have to. Now maybe that doesn't make him the industryhatin' spoilerspy pirate goblin christ figure that you imagined him to be, but oh well. Harry's primary interest, based on my dubious conjecture, is to keep loving films and have a forum in which to share his love with manchildren across America. <p> However, what I don't like is that most of the time Mori's only entrance to the talkbacks is filled with unabashed hatred at the tbers themselves. He's usually justified, I just wish he'd join in when he didn't feel the need to defend himself.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    I love this site...really

    by Sparhawk38

    It is a riot in every way. Uncapie is craaazy however. There is no comparison between HB2 and JTCE, in my opinion.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    The person spearheading the Tropic Thunder Protests...

    by Harry Weinstein

    Exec. Producer of The Ringer. Seriously, look it up.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Don't go to "NUKEDTHEFRIDGE.com" or you will get bored

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    FREE SPEECH UNDER ATTACK!?!...

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    ...seems to be a lot of that going around lately. Still here by the way. Also, somebody mentioned David Bowie which was awesome.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Dickblood

    by Immortal_Fish

    After immigration reform, the keating 5, the gang of 14, McCain/Fiengold, McCain/Kennedy, McCain/Leiberman, on and on -- I'm not voting for the weasly dirtbag either.<P>Yet I am amazed how quickly the media darling fell from grace in the eyes of liberals once he clinched the nomination.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Zerocorpse

    by Immortal_Fish

    No one ever has to accuse democrats of knee-jerk political correctness.<P>And I can't stand Limbaugh, shitstain.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    John Edwards...

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    ...should be put on the Maury Povich show so that he could get his paternity test revealed. "In the case of little-Liberal-Love-Child-Whose-Name-I-Don't-Care-To- Know...YOU...ARE THE FATHER!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Just ot

    by TerryMalloy

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Just took down Massa's review

    by TerryMalloy

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Speaking of attacks on free speech....

    by Zandunga

    ....what happened to the negative review of Clone Wars on the main page? Why did you suppress it? Did they contact you guys and ask you to bury it? Where's your passion for free speech now?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Advocacy groups had problems with this

    by skimn

    but had no problem with Radio?? That was an embarassment for all involved.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    THIS HEADLINE IS HILARIOUS

    by wash

    Seriously, the fucking irony just smacks you upside the head.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    re: Massa's Clone Wars review being taken down

    by Rickey Henderson

    That probably has more to do with some moron spamming for that NTF website than anything else. At least Rickey hopes.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Yeah, sorry guys

    by Massawyrm 1

    Neither Harry nor Mori are my immediate editors, and the editor in question was not told of any embargo. The invitations we received said nothing of it (which is why Harry wrote his as well.) Being that I sleep until noon most days, I just now discovered the situation. We've pulled it down for the time being while we figure out wth is going on - and it will be reposted as soon as we are able.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    http://i37.tinypic.com/okbknb.gif

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    IceCreamSoldier- You're entitled, but...

    by ZeroCorpse

    You're entitled to your opinion because it affects you personally, and you have a parent's sense when it comes to this word being used. I understand that, but I'm sorry, I won't stop using the word if it's the right word for the situation, and sometimes, it *is* the right word. <p> If your son can't fend for himself, it's not my responsibility to curb all my behaviors to make his life easier. Nobody cuts me that sort of slack, so with all due respect, I don't see why one person's son should have any impact on my vocabulary choices. It's no different than people who insist everyone stop eating peanut butter & jelly sandwiches because one kid in school has an allergy to peanuts-- That's not my problem. It's the kid's responsibility to learn to deal with the negatives of his condition and act appropriately in response to the danger. It's the parents' responsibility to keep the kid away from peanuts and teach the kid to be careful when near other people who might want to eat them.<p> In the case of a word your kid might think is mean, we're not even talking about the physical severity that a major allergy would entail. We're talking about wounded feelings, and you seem to think it's everyone else's duty to avoid saying something that, even though it's not directed at your son, might hurt his feelings. <p> This brings us back to the P.M.R.C. discussion we were having earlier. Tipper Gore and her fellows were trying to censor music lyrics because they were concerned about how *some* people might interpret them. But that's the whole point of art: The viewer must make the choice to partake of it, the viewer must interpret the end result as they see fit, and whether or not you're insulted, saddened, or angered by it is not the point. The point is that while it makes you feel one way, it makes someone else feel an entirely different way, and their interpretation is no less valid than yours (or your son's). <p> If you know a movie has the word "retard" in it, then don't go. Nobody forces you to partake of this art. You may leave it as you so choose, and find something less offensive to you in your specific role in life. That's what it is to be a citizen of a free country. That's what it is to be a parent of an autistic child. That's your choice and responsibility; Not the filmmaker's.<p> I loathe some of the things said by Rush Limbaugh, Michael Weiner Savage, Ann Coulter, and Bill O'Reilly, but I defend their right to say it (most of it, anyway. Sometimes they step into seriously racist speech, and that's a step away from hate speech). I wouldn't try to censor Ann Coulter, as much as I hate her and the things she says. She slings insults toward me, and my class of Americans, and these things ARE intended to be hurtful and cruel, but as long as she isn't calling for people to harm liberals, atheists, homosexuals, or other "enemies" of hers, I've got no problem with her being given the opportunity to speak freely. <p> Do I think it's in poor taste? Yep. But it's entertaining to HER AUDIENCE, and people pay for her opinion, her spewed words, and her bass-ackwards view of things. <p> You can write letters of complaint. That's cool, and it's part of your right to speak freely. Just don't expect a lot of action when they letter arrives. While I'm sensitive to your situation, I'm also not writing for an audience of one. I'm writing for whomever can see it, and what they take out of it will have a lot to do with whatever emotional baggage they bring with them. <p> You seem nice, but when it comes to this issue it's you-- not your son-- who is being kind of retarded. <p> Your son is probably not as broken up about this issue as you are. If he is, just remind him that everybody gets some insults directed at them, no matter who they are. I'm a geek, and plenty of people have called me a "fag" in my life, and meant it in the "you are homosexual" way. I've been a pussy, a nigger-lover, and a jew-lover. I've been a dyke-mike (opposite of a fag-hag), a pedo (dated an 18-year-old in my 30s) and a "Satanist" (I used to associate with Wiccans) as well as being a godless heathen atheist and a good-for-nothing, tree-hugging, hippie liberal commie bastard. Harry is a fatass, a geek, and a carrot-top (maybe even a ginger). Others here have had insults leveled at them based on their perceived personality traits. <p> If your kid weren't autistic, he'd be picked on for being short, or tall, or for his music choices, or his parents' income level, or his clothes, or his toys, or something else entirely. If his skin isn't thick enough to deal with it, even as an autistic child, he's not going to make it in this world and you'll spend every moment shielding him from words. <p> Hey, I get you. You love your kid. The thing is that I don't love your kid, nor do I even know your kid. If I meet him, I won't say anything mean to him or call him a retard, but I'm not going to censor myself when there's the possibility that he might stumble upon my words, or that you might see them and be insulted on behalf of your kid who will never see/hear them. <p> My job is to write what entertains the masses and gets my point across. Your job is to keep your child from reading or hearing my words if you think they'll be harmful to him. <p> You do your job, and let me do mine, and we'll all get along. <p> Now, a definition: <p> Retard: "Delay or hold back in terms of progress." <p> "Idiot, Imbecile, or Moron" <p> If you would like, I can stop writing characters who call each other "retarded" when they mean "stupid" and instead have them call each other "autistic", "intellectually disabled", or "cognitively disabled". <p> Given the choice, wouldn't "retarded" be better? We can certainly start borrowing the other words that DO have a modern association with your son's condition, if you insist that the old word that is not used clinically anymore is off-limits. <p> Just a suggestion. Not trying to be a jerk: Just illustrating a point.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    this is how democracy dies… to thunderous applause

    by ironic_name

    this is how - this is how - this is how..

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Just out of curiosity

    by TerryMalloy

    I was under the impression that you guys always posted reviews before you were supposed to. I mean, isn't it sort of standard to wait until the release date to post reviews?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Wel put, Harry

    by Project424

    If and when people try and bash you as a journalist, I shall point them to this article and say "that's Harry, the writer."

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Harry and Massawyrm, champions of free speech

    by Conans Sword

    seriously what the fuck are you guys playing at

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Free speech is under attack

    by kwisatzhaderach

    from Lucasfilm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Massawyrm says ROGER ROGER Talkback is here.

    by Laughing Irishman

    http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/37881

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:13 p.m. CST

    But Massa, how will we be able to trash Lucas now?

    by Rickey Henderson

    It's not as if we've got a substantial canon of work dating back to 1997 to rely upon! New gripes must be drawn upon! New shit has come to light!<br>

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    At least we now know why Fox didn't want anything

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    To do with this turd.<p>I still want to know why other outlets are able to keep their reviews up. If WB is threatening legal action then NOBODY has deep enough pockets to tell them to screw off.<p>If it's just a request from them for outlets to take these down out of courtesy until the 15th, then that's a different matter altogether.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Toe Stepping...

    by Laughing Irishman

    ...I think AICN is trying not to step on the WB toes. They own the rights to a lot of stuff that I'm sure they want to get first dibs on. All the DC/Comic properties and what not. If they have to not review a shitty cartoon to keep those first dibs, so be it. With that said, when IS the clone wars due to show? If they can't post reviews before it's released, then that's some bullshit, AND if that's the case, then WB KNOWS they have a turd and are trying to keep it under wraps until after opening weekend or whatever.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Only an embargo because the reviews were so bad

    by jimmy_009

    I bet Lucasfilm thought they had hot shit and people were going to be all over it. The only problem is the thing looks like total garbage. Seriously, how can they fuck up Star Wars like this? It's a golden property if done right, and yet Lucas insists on getting everything wrong. The quality is so low on this cartoon it looks like a direct to DVD from some second rate Toronto animation company. I expect a whole lot fucking better from Lucasfilms. Really a letdown.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Harry and Massawyrm, feel free NOT to repost the reviews

    by notdevin

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    The story is on Defamer!

    by tonagan

    http://tinyurl.com/5ec62v

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Good luck to the WB...

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    ...since all of the people who review the movie on opening weekend are more than likely going to say the same shit.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Embargo really? heres a link to 5 Fucking reviews!!

    by Conans Sword

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7553560.stm

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    nice tonagan

    by just pillow talk

    The link they provide in the story leads to Harry's original review.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Deduction: Clone Wars Embargo=

    by Samuel Fulmer

    High possiblility that the film is exactly how the reviews thus far have stated....all the bad things about the prequels multiplied. I actually hope that this and any future SW project Lucas is attached to does terrible, that way he can either stop making SW films/spin-offs, or actually give them to someone who can bring something fresh to the material. And when it comes to free speech I don't blame the few fanatical liberals and conservatives that help set the disourse for America, I blame the moderate majority for standing by and letting these idiolgically self serving idiots take over and ruin everything for us all.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    for those just tuning in, Harry and Massa thought Clone Wars was

    by irrelevntelefant

    allegedly... until the 15th

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Defamer

    by Laughing Irishman

    Hot damn! That's one hell of a review by Harry.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    kids pick things up from their parents....

    by emeraldboy

    An example of this is...the following. One week before 9/11 they eyes of the world, stared down on a road in Northern Ireland and were horriified to see bile pouring down on chilren going to school, this was hate-filled stuff. Catholic parents and Prodestant Parents screaming at one another and spewing bile. NI has quietened down, though there are flashes of hatered that erruptd from time to time and the government in NI is paralysed. Old habits died hard. and the wife of the PM of Northern Ireland, called Homosexuality an abomination and dug her hole deeper by going on radio and saying that she knew of a pyschiatrisst who could cure people. Later in the Uk parliament in private discussion she said that homosexuality was as abhorrant as child abuse. Everyone called Iris Robinsons remarks appallling. In a belfast gay pride parade, mock up of her face was put on the front of a truck. hilarious. But the shinners were silent on this whole issue. Hmmm. as were other parties.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    add "shit" after "was" above

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Weekend Box Office Predictions

    by Samuel Fulmer

    1.Tropic Thunder...2.The Dark Knight....3.The Clone Wars. Dark Knight and Clone Wars may be close due to the lack of really any kids films out.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Clone Wars is G.I. Joe: The Movie

    by Samuel Fulmer

    And by that I'm talking about the one with Cobra-La and Jinx.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Embargo: Epic Fail!

    by bass

    So, as a former SW fan firmly disabused of his notions following the shite pre-quels, I honestly had about 1% interest in seeing Clone Wars. HOWEVER, my young son is a HUGE prequel fanatic, so I was considering taking him to see it. Given the reviews posted here, I think we'll be renting the DVD instead...that way, no profit to Lucasfilm and he gets to see it but I don't have to sit through it! EPIC FAIL! Thanks AICN for saving me some cash...but now you need to have the cojones to put those reviews back up and save others the cash.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Disability Advocate Groups Are Retarded!

    by LaserPants

    No, seriously, many of their members are actually retarded. I looked it up on wikipedia, which, as we all know, is also retarded. Lets face it, kids, we live in a retarded world and I, for one, am not afraid to scream I'M RETARDED AND SO ARE YOU! from every rooftop. RETARD POWER!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Where does this fall on the SW crap scale?

    by Samuel Fulmer

    And by that I mean anything that isn't New Hope, Empire, or, Jedi. Is it Droids, or The Holiday Special, or Attack of the Clones, or Ewok Adventure bad?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    "You Are Not Authorized To Access This Page"?!?!?!

    by LaserPants

    Are you fucking kidding me?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Obviously Hollywood dislikes the Mentally

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Challenged. How else do you explain the blacklisting of Chris Burke. Everyone thought after Life Goes On he would be handed a big franchise like Batman or The Matrix. Instead he's lucky to get a guest appearance on TBN.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Isn't Stiller just ripping off the BBC comedy Extras ?

    by G100

    He appeared in it just after Kate Winslet and it also did the same kind of spooofing of Hollywood actors and the whole film "biz".<p> <p>Kate Winslet had an amusing speech that she was doing a film about the Holocaust because she was tired of losing out on Oscars, as at the time she had been nominated four times, and that everyone who does a film about the Holocaust wins an Oscar.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Simple Jack...

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    ...should have his own TV show.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST

    God...

    by onephatnelly

    I fucking hate George Lucas. Arrogant prick.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Lucas Is A Paranoid Control-Freak Nutcase

    by LaserPants

    I really think he's on the cusp of a total mental breakdown and disconnect from reality.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    I thought this was the site that...

    by wash

    that ran an illicit hotel room early review of AoTC? What the hell happened?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Lucas needs Clone Wars box office success

    by irrelevntelefant

    otherwise his offspring in the year 3022 may have to actually get a job to support themselves.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Is Mutt Williams in the Clone Wars?

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Maybe they can add him in at the last minute (smashed hand and all) to help appeal to more teens and idiots.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Clearly

    by ArcadianDS

    WB: "Uh Mister Knowles, we thought we paid you guys for some promo material and while our agreement doesn't cover the actual editorial content, it also does not assure you future exposure to on-set visits, cast/crew 1-on-1 interviews or return visits to our many studios. We would like you to remove your Clone Wars reviews until after its opening weekend."<p> Harry: "you can't threaten me. Im Harry Knowles, the guy famous for getting spy reports from all your secret projects."<p> WB: "so be it....journalist." *BLUE FINGERBOLTS*<p> Harry: "AUGUAUGUAUG FATHERGEEK!! FATHERGEEK HELP!!!" *bzzt bzzzzzt crackle bzzt*<p> Massabear: "hai guys! whats going on in here?"<p> Harry: "oh nothing. we're not reviewing Clone Wars because we'll lose our promo gigs and set visits."<p> Massa: "but...but...we're underground, maaan. voice of the people.. *rolls D10 to resist*<p> Mori: "dude, they took away my lab, they made Harry a corporate shill for crap movies. If they take away our SOUND-O-TEXT, then whats left?"<p> Massa: "dignity?"<p> Harry: *yanks updates*

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Lucas Should...

    by Laughing Irishman

    Do a really good TV show like they did with Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Because honestly, I don't think Terminator Salvation would have even been a thought if T:TSCC hadn't been as successful as it has.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Dear Mr Headgeek

    by CharyouTree

    Whoever is telling you guys to pull down the reviews ask them why then has every other site and newspaper printed their own?, and the 2 reviews I read in the British Press trashed the movie

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    it would seem

    by Cedar_Room

    that Lucas does not want the world to know that his latest film may not be what his devoted fanboys wished for. I would guess that he does not want negative buzz impacting on the box office numbers. I would guess this is because he long since gave up worrying about artistic merit and only about the gazillions he can make from the goons he so despises. Please let the truth be known AICN - if Lucas is shutting down these reviews because of nothing more than chasing more money then he has become as much a force for evil as the studio system he once so despised.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    also, about the bannings

    by ArcadianDS

    long time in coming. the only people complaining are the asshats, and hopefully AICN isn't finished yet. They've left some of the hattiest for last.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    speaking of Liberals and such like

    by emeraldboy

    I am very suprised that this site has not picked up the fact that Chris columbus is getting behind a camera again. that is a very scary thought. Chris columbus is making a bobby kennedy biopic. which is even scarier. I thought chris columbus had disappeared for good after butchering the first two harry potter films. but he is back. you have been warned.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    "rolls d10 to resist"! fucking classic Arcadian

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Lucasfilm are bunch of no talent cunts....................

    by crackerfarmboy

    Time to go away. I hope Clone Wars makes $8. Then again Lucas probably charges more to pay for his "zany special effects", so I hope it makes $12. Drop dead Lucas.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Clone Wars reviews

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    I love how long the last one was up. For HOURS, then it disappears. After everyone pours their heart and soul into the TB ... tsk tsk

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    ArcadianDS

    by LaserPants

    That was f*ckin' brilliant! Hahaha! Nice one.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Don't forget, emeraldboy. Columbus also did "Rent"

    by StarWarsRedux

    But that already sucked. I'm a bleeding heart Liberal with a capital "L", and I thought it sucked.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    What bannings?

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    Did people get banned or something?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    I love the fact no one has pasted Harrys review here

    by irrelevntelefant

    of course, I guess if they did it would be erased like the grassy knoll tape and they would be "banned" from posting... <p> (says the man who copied harry's review but is reluctant to paste it in tb)

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Or how do you explain...

    by emeraldboy

    I am Sam. starring talk back fav Sean Penn.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Why others can post reviews...

    by Laughing Irishman

    ...most other places posting reviews, IMO, probably aren't filled full of smaller version of the HeadGeek. We are the target audience. Therefore, we should not read a bad review until we've spent our money. Especially when it will be free on Cartoon Network. IMO.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Cunt

    by nukethefridge

    Cunt

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Didn't Chris Columbus do Rent???

    by Samuel Fulmer

    A Bobby Kennedy film at this point is...pointless. Unless it's from Oliver Stone, who cares?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Never saw rent....either the play or

    by emeraldboy

    the movie. i loved the the bit in Team america, where they blasted Rent by calling it lease, and they only sang one song Aids.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    I think we should have an "I am Spartacus" moment

    by TerryMalloy

    And all post Harry's review simultaneously on multiple threads. Just a thought.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    EMERALDBOY

    by BringingSexyBack

    What. the. fuck. are. you. always. blathering. on. about?!?!??!?!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Harry's Clone War Review Synopsis

    by Samuel Fulmer

    It's everything you hated about the prequels, taken to a whole new level. That's really it in a nutshell, with about 2,000 less words.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    I think the embargo is going to hurt the box office

    by irrelevntelefant

    worse than if they let the reviews stay posted.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    I would have more faith in Chris Columbus

    by Samuel Fulmer

    directing a good new Star Wars film than Lucas. Sad that it's gotten to this point. If the reviews on this cartoon are any indication, the live action show should be scrapped now. Sad that Lucas is so ashamed of the Holiday Special when everything from the prequels on has been at about that same quality.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    I Think I'll Just See THE DARK KNIGHT Again Instead

    by LaserPants

    I suddenly don't feel like running out first weekend to see this anymore. Not because of the bad reviews, which don't surprise me, but because Lucas is that much of a prick. <br><br>Of course, something to consider is the fact that this stuff is made for kids, and most kids stuff is pretty bad. Have you watched a kids show lately? Its a wasteland. Too bad they didn't just hire Genndy to expand on his series. He's the only guy who straight up knocked it out of the park since the prequels started up. HIs Clone Wars cartoons were almost more Star Wars than Star Wars; certainly more Star Wars then the first two prequels. Oh well, another epic fail from the house that youth-oriented merchandising and consumer nostalgia built...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Where are the Bothan Spies?

    by Samuel Fulmer

    When we need them.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    HOLY UNCAPIE

    by ArcadianDS

    embargo or not, Uncapie hit the nail on its head with the hammer of doom. He was spot on about Harry's morphing from 'one of us' to an egomaniacal man-child whose maturity level in the content of his 'reviews' has actually REGRESSED over the years. This guy was on "At The Movies" once upon a time. This guy was on Entertainment Tonight countless times. This guy was mentioned by name, by actors on The Tonight Show and Letterman with regularity. Now they talk about DANNYGLOVERS DICKBLOOD instead, and Harry continues to achieve new lows in literary pantloading with 'chocolate covered (vaginal excretions)', 'steaming bowl of (penises)', and other refuse. He's in this now for nothing more than the shock value. Guess what Harry - all of us: you, me, Mr Dickblood - we've all aged with this site. We've all grown up, got married, had kids. We're 30 and 40 year olds now, and what we thought was awesome and your problem is that the rest of us took on the mantle of maturity (to some degree or another) and adulthood, while you continue to write your reviews in while wearing a soiled pair of Pampers. You're a child doodling with crayola crayons and then waving your random rainbow swirls at us and expecting us to look at them and say with baited breath, "my God its like a Picasso."<p> well its not ta Picasso, Mister Knowles. Its childish scribbles with Crayola Crayons on the back of a Denny's Under 10 Menu. We're not impressed, and those that are, are only saying it out of a condescending 'isnt that sweet' adult-to-child manner.<p> You're done, man-baby. You refused to listen to me and many others who flat out BEGGED you to stop being an immature tyrant, and writing reviews geared toward the 10th grade readership (dude, he just said 'penis' in his review thats AWESOME!! LULCOWS!!), but you didn't listen. We tried to warn you that studio executives - y'know, GROWN ADULTS WITH A MODICUM OF RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR PROFESSION, would grow weary of your infantile antics. Your writers abandon you in droves like mice from a burning trash barge. Your readers have either washed their hands of you, or read the site believing in earnest that nobody would ever know they read it. You not only embarrass yourself daily, but the people who read it are embarrassed doing it. Its like accidentally opening the door to an occupied toilet. We're all terribly sorry for reading, and we back away blood-faced and wincing as we close the door quickly. You were asked, nay IMPLORED to grow up. You refused. You found yourself a bride and a stack of bobble-headed 'yes men' to validate your 'can-do-no-wrong' view of yourself, and now its come home to roost.<p> Apatow was on the money when he slammed this site on Conan. His basic assessment was 'wow things people say on this site are horrible. How horrible a person I must be. oh wait, its just full of idiots and immature wastes of human life, so no need to take it seriously.'<p> Thats what Mister Apatow things of this domain: its crude, crass, immature, and vile - and not to be taken seriously at all.<p> Once upon a time, a bunch of us did take it seriously. And there was a time when we and you could have worked something out, but you blew it. You blew it. There was a time but..<p> YOU BLEWWWWW ITTTTTTTT<p> yeah - I expect to be banned for my opinion and expect someone to delete this.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Just steal the movie...

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    ...I'm gonna look at the movie times...pick two which play one after the other and then pay for the first one...then sneak into the one right after...which will probably be Clone Wars.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    I think Apatow...

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    ...IS Danny Dickblood. Apatow you son of a bitch! You and your "changing the modern face of comedy probably for the better" attitude!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Liberals need guns, too.

    by Hikaru Ichijo

    I'm amazed that this movie is catching so much heat and not because of Robert Downey Jr.in black face. Remember Ted Danson's gag? Apart from that, the term "retarded" is officially an ugly word that needs to be avoided in mixed company, then again this isn't the forum for social skills. As for the weekend, I'm almost sorry I have a life because I missed all the fuss. I understand that when I take my 6 year old nephew to see Clone Wars, I'll be taking a brain vacation, which comes as no suprise to me. Jedi sucked, except that I was thirteen and needed closure, so the bar has been set pretty low for decades folks. Also, Bowie kicks ass, and please remember that Satan is doing everything in his power to make his works appear righteous.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    my "reimagining" of harry's CW review...

    by irrelevntelefant

    it's as if Lucasfilm collectively f****d you in the a** then made you s**k their collective sh** covered d**ks, while paying them $11 to do it...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Rickey finds all of you fuckers to be hilarious

    by Rickey Henderson

    In the year 2050, are you dumb bastards still going to be doing this? Spilling vitriol online towards a shitty artist? If Rickey doesn't like a street musician do you think Rickey would spend twenty years of his life ranting about how awful that street musician was? And if he did, who do you think would look worse: Rickey, or the street musician?<br> <br> Furthermore, how in the fuck are any of you pricks shocked at all this? Lucas created another piece of garbage yet again and you guys are acting as if a komodo dragon just jumped out of your pants. Jesus effingham christ get a grip already...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN ARCADIAN, EXCEPT

    by BringingSexyBack

    that Apatow is not exactly a paragon of maturity. He built his empire on misogyny and crude jokesterism. It was purely ironic that he picked Dickblood's name to mock, considering Danny operates on a higher level of maturity than he does. Also, you may not like Harry's reviews, but the recent hiring of Mr. Beaks has signaled that this site does have a positive direction, no?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    ArcadianDS

    by Conans Sword

    all of us: you, me, Mr Dickblood...lol classic

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    IRRELEVNTELEFANT...

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    ...Only $11?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Banzai, using market average...

    by irrelevntelefant

    after whoppers and a large fruit punch, it jumps into the low 30's.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Hikaru

    by ArcadianDS

    I agree that if this movie was an exploitation of socially/intellectually deficient people, I would not see it. However, its not - it actually is a slam against people who DO make light of this issue for fun and profit. The only people who laughed at Handy Man (basically a Mentally Retarded SuperHero with Multiple Sclerosis) on In Living Color were people who just live in fallout shelters without human contact. Do you know why the Wayans troupe dropped HandyMan as a recurring character? Because a retarded child was born into the family. Suddenly, HandyMan was gone. There had been talks of a HandyMan movie, but it was just gone in a flash. Tools. This movie takes a shot at those actors/comedians/producers, and not at the handicapped themselves.<p> But as I stated earlier, google the web and you'll find VERY LITTLE about this massive push to inhibit free speech. Its a viral marketing campaign and at first I thought Harry was duped and fooled by it, but if that were the case, why is it in the column to the left where it cannot scroll away?<p> makes it look like he's actually PART of this viral campaign. More graft money. See what happened there? Now you dont know if the reviews here for that movie are real, or paid. You wonder if ANY of them are real or paid. We've seen a pretty major refund this morning for at least one studio, haven't we.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:21 p.m. CST

    CHOCOLATE COVERED PUSSY JUICES ASIDE

    by BringingSexyBack

    I do commend Harry for calling a spade a spade with that Clone Wars review. He rightfully bashed the innate racism in the Hutt character, and that was some brutal honesty on display from a guy who is accused of betraying journalistic integrity on a daily basis. Yeah, I saved the review and just re-read it. It's one of Harry's best, if only for some well-deserved punches of brutal truth against a franchise close to his heart.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:21 p.m. CST

    i gave a shout out to Dick Blood in my PineEx review

    by irrelevntelefant

    probably why it never got posted <P> that or the fact I was baked out of my mind when I wrote the review....

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Did Apatow Really Namedrop DICKBLOOD On Conan?!?!

    by LaserPants

    Hahaha! Thats great!! Danny, you must be proud.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Apatow

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    He doesn't know who's posting on this site. We could be a very talented and successful bunch for all he knows. And good-looking too. <p>Seriously- yeah, there is a lot of moronic stuff here but I've probably laughed as much or more at TB stuff than any Apatow movie. And there's a decent amount of insight too. So he should think twice. Think TWICE, Apatow!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    for gamers: kinda similar to jeff gerstmann scandal on gamespot

    by Seth Brundle

    maybe some of you are also readers of Gamepost, the guy reviewed Kane and Lynch for PS3 and utterly destroyed the game, but......it just happened that sony had bought a shitload of ad space on gamespot for the game, so.... Jeff gets his ass fired to please the higher powers, reminds me of this a bit

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    All the reviews talking about AICN...

    by Laughing Irishman

    Makes me wonder just who is reading and joining in these talkbacks to have them post articles concerning them so quickly. Know what I mean?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Liberals take it to a new level

    by halberd

    when it comes to getting what they want. And the manner they do it is in great semblance to a dissatisfied child who didn't get an extra piece of the pie. They'll lie down in the middle of a big city road just get your attention, meanwhile they could be mitigating a day's worth of progress or accidentally be killing a baby somewhere yet not give two shits about it so long as the primary objective is accomplished. We doom ourselves to something of a diluted nation the more 'PC' we try to become... when in fact it's when we completely avoid an issue that makes said issue worse. Let Stiller tackle anything he friggin' wants because 1.) He's a character/comic actor and 2.) he's Ben fucking Stiller. I was in progress of putting aside the 'hate the way liberals in protesting work' mentality, because politics suck, but here I find myself completely vexed once again for oversensitive left-winged fools who seem really bored with their lives. This makes want to watch Blazing Saddles.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST

    embargos and blaming libs

    by filmfanatic1

    First of all, if Lucas said to take down the reviews, every single media has to, or go to court, so geekies, stop crucifying AICN already! And as far as liberals in our society, you better look at the last 7 years. Conservatives have been running the country, not liberals, you got that, you right-wing hacks? Defend Bush, if you can, just don't give me the same old Rush Limp crap about the libs ruining the country. And of course, TROPIC THUNDER shouldn't be cut, no matter what special interests say. This is a 1st Amendment issue, something that you right wing loonies hate.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Only Liberals Pull This PC BS!

    by ChildOfMen

    Seriously, damn liberals. You'd never see a conservative do anything like this. <P> You'd never see them boycott a movie just because it promoted some ideology they disagreed with like homosexuality, atheism, etc. You'd definitely never see them scare a studio into watering down the anti-religious/anti-Catholic Church aspects of something like the Golden Compass. You'd never see them boycott Harry Potter for promoting godlessness and witchcraft. You'd never see them try to get evolution taking out of school curricula. You'd never see them try and get books taken out of school libraries that offend their beliefs. You'd never see the conservative fundamentalist Islamists protest cartoons about Muhammed. <P> Seriously, if we could just get rid of these damn liberals, it would completely get rid of all the PC nonsense in the world, since again, conservatives never try to boycott/remove/pressure to have removed stuff with content they don't like or that offends them.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by ArcadianDS

    The review was indeed some of his best. You can tell when Harry is really typing his thoughts or just phoning it in and looking for that amazingly juvnile catch-phrase to top off a lack-luster attempt.<p> and LaserPants - yeah, Apatow was on Conan and he said he was on a website where someone called his movies a 'fart on American Culture' and that he actually felt terrible about it, and wondered if he was just a terrible film maker.."...and then I saw his name was Danny Glover's *BLEEP*blood so I *drowned out by audience laughter*..." and thats pretty much how it went down.<p> Word is getting out in Hollywood - this site is not to be treated like a serious movie news site. Its just a dung pile of hate and idiocy, and I still suspect that this 'embargo' is more of a "if you mention me or my property on your website again, prepare to defend your legal right to do so in a very expensive lawsuit - my bank account versus yours."<p> there are other sites online with negative reviews posted right now. Hmm.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    CHILDOFMEN

    by BringingSexyBack

    Damn you! Reverse psychology = unfair advantage! <p> Good show, ol' chap

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST

    dont blame libs OR neocons folks - they're the same

    by ArcadianDS

    I believe that political viewpoints are not a linear left vs right plane, but that its actually a circle, and the further you drift to one extreme or another, both sides of the issue wind up standing on the same ground, some call it fascism and others call it communism, but names aside, they are the same spot on the spectrum.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST

    I DON'T TREAT THIS AS A SERIOUS MOVIE NEWS SITE ...

    by BringingSexyBack

    I'm just here for the talkbacks, and I get great leads and recs from guys in here. I don't even read the articles - I start right at "First!!" and move from there...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    ARCADIAN IS RIGHT - THERE IS NO LEFT VS. RIGHT

    by BringingSexyBack

    We're just being pitted against each other by the Satanic Illuminati. Divide and conquer, all to establish their One World Government. Keep that in mind you stupid wingnuts.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    scriptgirl brings the seriousness

    by just pillow talk

    Right?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    frank darabont implied I was a hillbilly

    by ironic_name

    just saying.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Embargo my ass! What about ALL the other CW reviews?

    by reflecto

    Come on, this is fucking ridiculous.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    script girl brings the midgets under her sweater

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Harry told the truth...so what

    by Conans Sword

    thats his job. letting lucas and WB pull your review cause they dont like the content?? thats not what this site used to be about back in the day. i dont wanna use the word sellout cause i still like this site and harry, but what the hell was he thinking

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    IT'S NOT WARNER BROS., IT'S FOX

    by BringingSexyBack

    FOX!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Guys, check the archives for the answer to this issue

    by ArcadianDS

    I'll even give you your search words:<p> "An Industrial Light - That's Magic!!!"<p> find that article, and suddenly you'll understand the events of yesterday and today in an all new...uhm.... light.<p> PS: yeah dont try searching here LOL - google or use the wayback machine (google that).

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    How long before Dreamworks makes a

    by Samuel Fulmer

    sizeable donation to this advocacy group. Isn't this what always happens. We get a situation where some group is up in arms about some movie or something someone said, and the only way to make the advocacy group happy is to fork over some cash.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    they're serious midgets though...

    by just pillow talk

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    freedom of speech isn't free

    by Cedar_Room

    no, theres a hefty fucking fee. <p> Post the review Harry.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST

    see above - let me save you the effort

    by ArcadianDS

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30338

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Wraith of WB

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Means no more free stuff (toys, DVDs, set visits,etc)...right?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    loserguy3000, they ain't scared about a legal suit

    by irrelevntelefant

    they are afraid they will never get invited to the edit booth, on the set, to a private screening- i.e. lose all of the priveledges us geeks wish we had....

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Freedom isn't Free

    by Laughing Irishman

    Been stationed in Kuwait and most of my buddies have been to Iraq and Afghanistan more then once. They've been shot at, bombed, and various other things. I've been lucky, they, not so much. I've known people and been stationed with people who've been KIA. I do think Harry and Massawyrm should post their reviews...if not today, at least BEFORE the release date of 15Aug.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    and I'm going to contact Harry about a job....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....where all I do is review Uwe Boll films. My AICN handle will be Mr. Dick Blood.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    ...

    by Laughing Irishman

    Freedom of Speech that is...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    AWWWWWWW FUCK!!! WRONG TB.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Fuck off to all who read my last post.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Am I as important as Warner Brothers and Lucasfilm?

    by Cotton McKnight

    No, I'm not. And to be fair, I haven't read an official answer as to why all "Clone Wars" related reviews are being taken down. Logically though, I can't think of a single reason except for what's staring me in the face: Warner Brothers, Lucasfilm, or both, "threatened" Harry Knowles with some kind of repercussion if early reviews continued. Legal action? Nah, Loserguy3000 pretty much explained how that's impossible (unless he was dumb enough to break a confidentiality agreement- but that STILL wouldn't explain the review that was taken down today, that gave away no plot details.<p>No, the ugly elephant in the room is that he was threatened with lack of access to future WB movies. Early screenings, interviews, even merchandise. And that is inexcusable. Absolutely, 100 percent inexcusable. This is no different than "Access Hollywood" or "Entertainment Tonight", IF it's true.<p>I fear the worst, but I hope for the best. If this isn't explained properly by the time that stupid movie comes out, though, I will be forgetting about this place altogether. No, i'm not as big as Warner Brothers or Lucasfilm, but I had a hand in making this site what it is, just like every other reader. This whole thing is just sad.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    is "midget" pc? (not that I mind pissing off shorties)

    by irrelevntelefant

    you're short, i'm tall... deal with it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Still doesnt explain...

    by chuffsterUK

    ...how Empire/Total Film still have THEIR reviews up...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    The Embargo will bring more bad publicity

    by Samuel Fulmer

    for The Clone Wars then if they would've just let this site keep the reviews up. It's obvious something fishy is going on if they aren't going after sites that are giving positive early reviews. The more defensive the powers at Lucas/WB get, the more this looks like a turkey. Usually when Harry gives a movie a bad review, it truly is a bad movie, because he gives almost everything good reviews. He gave things like Crash and Transformers bad reviews, while other reviewrs on this site didn't. And I know that if Harry were to ever give a Tarantino or Del Toro film a bad review, it would have to be awful.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    pondscum

    by Toonol

    Any site that bans Pondscum is ok in my book. Most talkbackers add to the site; a few take away. Pondscum was one that worsened the site, and the people who OWN THE SITE decided to ban him. Their prerogative, and it's not censorship any more than trimming a really lame scene out of a movie is.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST

    ZeroCorpse

    by IceCreamSoldier!

    I don't know who you ~really~ are - I presume you're in the business - but if you ever have a child with a mental disability, I think you'll suddenly stop using dialogue like "You retard." I appreciate your commentary and like I said, I'm not going to sue anyone, but making fun of the mentally retarded, or using the word retarded as a pejorative, is simply immature. As for me being more broken up about it than my son? You're right. He's about to turn 8 and can't talk or understand anything more than a simple sentence. He may never be able to do more than that, though God knows we're trying everything and are going deep into debt because of it. Every major life event for us is tinged with the thought that "Maybe by next year he'll be able to..." with the knowledge that he probably won't. I don't want your sympathy, but I do want you to understand how this issue is truly not a laughing matter. I try not to take offense when people casually use the word retarded because they're not be malicious, just thoughtless. I'm sure you wouldn't call my son retarded to his or my face, but then how is it better when you use a Television Show or Movie to make fun of him. If you can't say something cruel to someone's face, I don't see how its somehow acceptable (morally, not legally) to make a joke at their expense behind their back.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Come join the AICN fun.

    by Laughing Irishman

    http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/37881

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Thing everyone must remember about this site

    by Samuel Fulmer

    It's really just an overglorified interactive fanzine. At the end of the day, the reviews aren't very objective, and most of the interviews are puff pieces (even though they're puff pieces on guys like Sam Raimi and Frank Darabont, not Brad Pitt or Barack Obama). Enjoy it for what it is, a site that preaty much collects all of it's movie news from other film sites, gives reviews that are sometimes colored by what free stuff may have been given/or if they are friends with the director/actor, and provides a hilarious talkback where people can vent about the sorry state of the cinematic art. Really, the large amount of people in the talkbacks is the reason d'etre for this site. Otherwise why come here for news you could've gotten from other websites hours/days/weeks ago?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Samuel Fulmer

    by ArcadianDS

    LucasFilm is NOT removing all negative reviews from the internet, and they are NOT removing negative reviews from AICN.<p> They are removing ALL reviews at AICN ONLY. There are lots of sites with reviews posted online right now, some good and some negative. The fact is that Lucas/WB has placed a trade embargo (Phantom Menace, anyone?) on ANY AND ALL content here at this one website. Welcome to Aint It Yesterdays Embargo-Delayed News Dot Com.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST

    the film doesnt open in ireland till September...

    by emeraldboy

    and by then this film will have either be hailed as a piece of crap or a work of genius. if it does stink and I dont as I havent seen it. This will do one thing positive, it will destroy not only the careers of Stiller and company. But it will kill off the crediblity of the unamed actor whose identity we know already know but paramount wont reveal. Clue his wife is in a play. and all the actors in that play have been gagged. that is no bs. A guy as a bet bought 1,000 tickets and he cant give them away, word of mouth is that bad.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Lucas can't take criticism

    by The Winged Doucheman

    Thats why his movies are shit these days. At least Spielberg attempted to call him on his bullshit. Not enough apparently. Clone wars sounds like Lucas took a shit in our fridge before nuking it. Does the casual moviegoer give a shit about an animated Star Wars movie? I don't see anyone taking a date or buying advanced tickets for a cartoon movie. Imagine asking a girl out and taking her to fucking Clone Wars on a first date. If you made it to the theater, she'd leave you as soon as she realized what she'd gotten herself into. Then you're left with your flaccid dong sitting in a half empty popcorn bucket, deprived of the reaction to her going for the next handful of kettle corn.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Samuel and Arcadian..

    by Laughing Irishman

    my philosophy ...most other places posting reviews, IMO, probably aren't filled full of smaller version of the HeadGeek. We are the target audience. Therefore, we should not read a bad review until we've spent our money. Especially when it will be free on Cartoon Network. IMO.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    So goeth the Headgeek...

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    ... so goeth the Wyrm. <p> And the embargo claims another for its unquenchable appetite.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST

    ArcadianDS

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Well why do you think this is? My guess (and I don't blame the guy since we know this isn't Film Comment, Film Threat, or anything other than an interactive fanzine), Harry doesn't want to stop getting the free stuff.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Laughing Irishman

    by ArcadianDS

    I hardly think that sites like Variety, Hollywood Reporter, and Empire Magazine Online are 'smaller version of the HeadGeek.'

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Arcadian...

    by Laughing Irishman

    So Variety, HR, and Empire are Embragoed as well?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    yes but notice how other sites

    by ArcadianDS

    haven't pulled their content, and are willing to surrender set visits and free industrial lights for the sake of objective journalism.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Apatow also mentioned Dickblood at the Comicon Panel

    by wash

    About a week before Conan.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Lucas has hawked a loogie...

    by biggles2_22

    ...into the face of Genndy Taratosky. "That'll teach you to make a cartoon that's better than the last three movies that I've made!" This movie is great if you've ignored all previous incarnations of the Star Wars universe, if you're under 7 years old, and if you're wearing ear plugs. Cool thing though, WB brought out some fully dressed clone-storm troopers and Darth Vader to the screening. My kids dug it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Hate speech is no GOUDA!

    by Nachokoolaid

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Gotcha...

    by Laughing Irishman

    Like I said, this will probably be AICN's "Metallica v. Napster". I still love the site but this makes me go WTF?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    loserguy3000

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Nicely put

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Spread the love, a la...

    by Nachokoolaid

    canned, processed cheese on toast.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    When has this site ever been objective?

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Even in the old days it was obvious this site was not objective. Remember the Godzilla review, or when Harry gave a glowing review to someone who happened to be Moriarity. When have you ever heard a negative word about AICN buddies Del Toro and Tarantino. Tarantino could direct the worst film ever made, and it would still get a positive review on here.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Apatow is Dickblood!

    by The Winged Doucheman

    Einhorn is Finkle!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Aint It Only Here

    by chuffsterUK

    That reviews have been pulled....NOWHERE else!??

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Holy Mozzarella!

    by Nachokoolaid

    Too much hate for dairy products to contain.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Glowing review of Moriarty...

    by Laughing Irishman

    Maybe I'm missing something but...what?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Fuck censorship!

    by themasterofnonsense

    Harry's all about crackin' jokes at the expense of retards, niggers, kykes, faggots, beaners, etc. Who gives a shit about another persons feelings as long as the goddamned movies funny!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Everybody just chill...

    by Nachokoolaid

    and have some nachos. With extra cheese!<p> That will solve everything.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Apatow IS Dickblood! thanks douche

    by irrelevntelefant

    it all makes sense now...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Glowing review of one of his screenplays

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Even though I don't know, maybe they had a beauty contest for guys standing in line for Phantom Menace.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Nacho KoolAid?

    by Laughing Irishman

    Yuck!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    You don't call retarded people retards

    by palooka_boy

    Its bad taste. You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Censorship is like Parmigiano-Reggiano.....

    by travis-dane

    it stinks and makes you fart.....

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Harry has a beer and cheats on the First Amendment

    by bass

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Harry did a deal with lucasfilm over the phantom

    by emeraldboy

    menace. Harry was flown first class to secret hotel. Where he got a room. Then at a certain time they handed him the Video for the phantom menace. His review was hysterically over the top. Great praise for them and the movie. It was a very boring overly long dull piece of nonsense. only the pod race was oustanding. and williams score and the final battle between Qou-gon jin and Darth Maul. When Harry did the same thing with Fox for rollerball. fox were expecting the same positive response. Harry tore that film and the studio apart. turned on my tv a couple of weeks ago Rollerball was on. Utter crap. 5mins were all I could stand. and still have no idea what the hell was going on. al lot of people admired Harry for his review of rollerball and for the anti hollywood position he took. Look harry is married now. Who knows will want to start a family. HIs priorities have changed. He has been bombarded with offers for this site. Maybe he saw something in Tropic thunder. Himself. maybe it spoke to him, that after all these years here is a film which agress with views politically and with his views on the film business. Which is why he loved it and why he hates the fact that liberals dont. maybe harry is not a liberal. it explains the bile for x-men 3. That campaign bordered on homophobic.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    THIS IS NOT A FREE SPEECH ISSUE

    by Mullah Omar

    This issue relates to ARTISTIC FREEDOM and CREATIVE CONTROL, not FREEDOM OF SPEECH. <br> <br> Basically, the studio faced a controversy over the content of its film and had to determine the cost/benefit to retaining the content. This is no different than audience members calling a radio station to complain about something they heard during a broadcast and didn't like - the station has every right to simply ignore the complaints, just like every audience member has the right to not listen to that station. <br> <br> There was and is no legal restriction on the content that spawned this controversy. Everyone can relax and stop shielding yourselves from the sky.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Mmmm... CHEESE...

    by Nachokoolaid

    What about some asiago. Or Bros? Burrata? Crescenza? Provolone? Romano? Dolcelatte? Gorgonzola? Frisian? Limburger? <p> There's gotta be enough to fill everyone's insatiable hate.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST

    I hope Dickblood is Apatow.

    by Cotton McKnight

    Because I want to let him know that I walked out of the Pineapple Express yesterday. You are a second rate John Hughes and your time is almost up. Oh shoot! My name isn't funny enough for him to mention it on a national talkshow. From now on, my name is Juggs Crapatow. Ha ha ha.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Travis Dane1

    by Nachokoolaid

    Finally someone's speaking my language. It's nacho business, but you're on the right track.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Travis Dane!

    by Nachokoolaid

    Finally someone's speaking my language. It's nacho business, but you're on the right track.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Lots of whining in here...

    by Nachokoolaid

    and not enough CHEESE to go with it!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Venezuelan Beaver Cheese!

    by Nachokoolaid

    You know you want it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    This movie is going to be awesome....

    by TheWaqman

    better than that Seth Rogen shit anyways.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Pertaining to that V.B.C.

    by Nachokoolaid

    10 points to whoever gets the reference.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Seth Rogen always looks constipated.

    by Nachokoolaid

    You guessed it. Too much cheese.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    And now RDJ...

    by rxse7en

    http://tinyurl.com/6ouqlr

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    if DickBlood is Apatow, here's my PineEx review (embargo this mo

    by irrelevntelefant

    In honor of Mori (who basically just read his contest response emails and made a list... bra-fucking-vo Mori, bravo, my friend), the first three paragraphs of this review will have nothing to do with the movie review itself.    Which is also why I will cc' this submission to Harry and the rest of the gang.  Someone is bound to either think it's funny or just be real fucking tired and/or stoned.  <p>   First off, let me commend the Los Angeles geeks, stoners and slackers(or hybrids thereof)  who showed up (quite early, I might add) to get in line for this screening.  You either were very motivated (not stoned) or you were a complete stoner and 6pm was borderline “sleeping in” for you.  Either way,  it felt like high school all over again.   By that I mean the fact we were all up against the walls of the Sherman Oaks Galleria, looking … well… looking like the freaks and geeks that we are.   And cutting right through the center of our FNG experience was a steady stream of type-a, highly motivated, health conscious people going to workout at a popular LA gym.  Fuck them, fuck them in their fat free asses.   Those people suck squirrel scrotums (down by the seashore).     No, really, they do suck squirrel scrotums.  It's like steroids or hgh, only it doesn't show up on any blood tests.  It's LA, don't put it past us. <p>   Secondly.  Remember what I said, three senseless paragraphs, then my fucking review.   This is only number two.     And now that I’m wasting it explaining myself, I feel the need to pad it a little.     Did I mention the three security guys for the event were built like Oddjob?    They knew they were in for an easy shift with the assorted  slackers, geeks and stoners ( oh my!). And Mori, if that was you checking the names on the list, way to rock the ASS out of the  Michael Moore/Kevin Smith look.     Do you have a fanny pack that goes with that outfit? <p>     Fuck the third paragragh, let’s jump into this review.    This shit is funny, REAL fucking funny.  Fucking funny with explosions and shoot-em-outs and weed.   First and foremost, James Franco’s Saul Silver has out Spicolied Spicoli.   All I can say is, if you have ever purchased weed, or in my case lived upstairs from a weed dealer (for legal and professional purposes, that’s all I’m willing to admit to) , you know Saul Silver.  You have been in his apartment, sat on his couch and watched the equalizer on his hi-fi 90's era home stereo system dance in rhythm to something from the Bob Marley catalogue.  <p>   As for Seth Rogen – if Albert Brooks and a young Tim Robbins ( circa ‘Spring Break’)  were beamed simultaneously aboard the Starship Enterprise, and their DNA bonded on a molecular level like Jeff Goldblum and the Fly  (FUCK JEFF GOLDBLUM!), you would have Seth Rogen.   Maybe it’s because we have a similar build, but dammit, he is just a likeable guy.   And to you talkbackers who are on the “I hate Seth Rogen” tour bus, who gives a shit.  This is my review, I like the guy (but not enough to suck his dick, Danny_Glovers_Dick_Blood!), so fuck you, you fucking fuckwad fucking fucknuts who disagree.   It’s only my opinion, and we all know opinions are like assholes- no one likes theirs getting fucked with by a stranger.    <p> And how about Danny Fucking R McBride .  If the R doesn’t already stand for Red, he should go and legally change his name.   I am going to go as Red for Halloween.   <p>   As for the movie as a whole, I could go into the whole plotline, but why? Dale and Saul are the new Cheech and Chong… wait, no …. wouldn't that be Harold and Kumar? hmm    maybe they are Bill and Ted?   No, that sequel sucked.    Gotta be duo that rocked the shit on the big screen a few times....   Wilder and Pryor?   You know what, fuck it.   Harold and Kumar are far too motivated and productive to be the new Cheech and Chong.   Besides to be the new Cheech and Chong, you gotta have the "Chong" -  the perma-stoned- relax-meister-general.   Neither Harold nor Kumar fit that bill.  So, back to my original statement, Dale and Saul are the new Cheech and Chong.   That’s right…. I said it.    Superjoint is all you need to know. And the whole door buzzer scene is right along the lines of  C&C’s “Daves not here”  skit.   <P> Go see this and support quality R rated comedies.   <p> Fuck children under 17 without parent or guardian permission.   Leave them to see Brendan Fraser get one step closer to "Encino Man II: No Refunds Given"<p> Really people, we need at least 3 Dale and Saul movies to get the shit taste of the Mummy Trilogy out of our mouths.   Mummys are meant for horror movies you douchebags that supported that crap.  <p>   They Call Me Irrelevant Elephant <p>   And once again, should you disagree with any of what I have stated here today,  <p>   Opinions…<p>   Assholes…<p>   Neigh means neigh…

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    "Never go full retard."

    by fiester

    Does know any sites that have the "Simple Jack" trailer cached? I want to see it now. Heh.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Mullah Omar

    by Nachokoolaid

    If the sky WAS falling, I'd want it to be in the form of Monterray Jack. Mmmmm....

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Screw this, just SINK TITANIC!!! www.sinktitanic.com

    by Zartan

    You know the Dark Knight is a better film. Read their mission statement in the blog. Dead on!!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

    The thing is..

    by emeraldboy

    Loathe empire as much as you want but they did give the fill three stars. which means the movie is mediocre and all of this stuff that you are seeing happening today is not new. It happened a couple of weeks ago with Xes and the City. Which was the collosal hit of the early summer before batman came and swept everything away. Fox created net groups populated by people who loved sex and the city. The limited the press reviews untill three days before the film came out. This negated any bad publicity. Tara Brady the film editor of irelands hotpress magazine stuffed the film by calling it a disgusting film and nothing more than 2.5hr of shopping pornography. Irish Film journalists gutted the movie compeletly. but it made money and all the ads on tv claimed it was one of the best film of the year,

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    My short review of Pineapple Express.

    by Nachokoolaid

    Too cheesy.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    But did Pinneaple Express include a Cockmeat Sandwhich?

    by The Winged Doucheman

    H&K>D&S

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Sex and the City...

    by Nachokoolaid

    would have been better if they would have made Sarah Jessica Parker wear one of those cheese head things that you always see at Packer games. <p> Instant fashion statement.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Tropic Thunder >>>>>>>>> Pineapple Express

    by TheWaqman

    Hilarious parody of Hollywood, Robert Downey Jr. playing a black guy, awesome viral marketing campaign that pisses off activist groups, and unrecognizable (thankfully) cameo by Tom Cruise as a fat pervert.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Who needs Cockmeat...

    by Nachokoolaid

    When you have Fromunda cheese? You know what I'm saying!?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Cruising-esque statement for Tropic Thunder

    by Samuel Fulmer

    They could put this before the film "THIS FILM IS NOT INTENDED AS AN INDICTMENT OF THE RETARDED WORLD. IT IS SET IN ONE SMALL SEGMENT OF THAT WORLD, WHICH IS NOT MEANT TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WHOLE."

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST

    touche douche, no cockmeat sammy...

    by irrelevntelefant

    but Red could take Neil Patrick Harris in the Octagon anyday!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Fromunda Deez Nutz

    by The Winged Doucheman

    Brought to you by the makers of Chin Nuts.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Well...

    by Nachokoolaid

    The only thing worse than chestnuts, are chin nuts. And moldy cheese.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Review

    by Giario

    “Harry hated THE CLONE WARS! I’ve never hated a STAR WARS film before. I have weathered Jar Jar and any number of Ewoks. I survived Hayden and a wooden Portman. I even accepted Jake Lloyd. I handled all that because it felt like STAR WARS. I can accept all of Lucas’ flaws, so long as at its heart it felt like Star Wars. I can deal with politics in Star Wars. I can deal with trade skirmishes in Star Wars. I can deal with musical numbers, breathing in the vacuum of space. Basically – so long as it feels like STAR WARS – I can watch any of it. Was I looking forward to STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS (2008)? Fuckin’ A! I was dying. After Genndy’s CLONE WARS – I felt that perhaps Lucas “got it” – and that this new animated series was taking a lead from Tartakovsky’s brilliant assembly of pieces. Genndy’s CLONE WARS got STAR WARS better than anyone has got it since Lawrence Kasdan and Irvin Kershner. Genndy took designs and characters that folks were dissatisfied with and made them cool. He did this by using and adapting the themes created by John Williams, the wholly perfect entity involved with Star Wars along with… the sound effects of Ben Burtt. He understood speed and motion – not just with action, but in editing. He understood classic film composition and iconography. And he knows what BADASS is. The folks behind this STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS movie… you could tell, they looked at what Genndy did – but they didn’t understand any of it. There’s a ****load of battles and ***** going boom. There’s noise everywhere – fury everywhere… but none of it is directed. The music by Kevin Kiner is criminally bad. Why they didn’t employ Paul Dinletir and James Venable is beyond me. No, no – let’s hire the composer of WALKER, TEXAS RANGER. Ahem. Now – I made excuses for this film as I was watching it. I don’t think you understand how much I love STAR WARS. Maybe you do, maybe you do too. Before the movie started I was firing myself up to go out after the film and buy that new $200 Hasbro Millenium Falcon. I really wanted to go buy it, and I wanted this movie to empower my brain to go through with that. Instead, I found myself at home – putting on Genndy’s THE CLONE WARS – to try and rebuild my passion – so I can go get that new Falcon. Instead – I’m thinking I’ll just be here at home enjoying this and that’ll be all I need. Anyway – as I was watching the film, I was excusing the sloppy shots, the sloppy use of the Clone Troopers and Droids – undoing all the awesome work that Genndy had done – and the droids are silly again. The Clone Troopers are limp. And the Jedi – they’re at 25% power from the mind of Genndy. But I was accepting that. I figured that was Lucas dialing back so that the animated series wouldn’t overpower his features. Then they introduced Baby Jabba aka Rotta the Huttlet aka Stinky. At the point of this character’s introduction – it officially became, the worst character in the history of STAR WARS. If you hate George Lucas cutsiepoo bull**** – oooooooh boy. You’re gonna have a field day of venting and hatred directed at this unbelievably ****ing awful little ****. Oh – but wait… Little Stinky the Hutt isn’t the worst character in the history of STAR WARS… because Stinky got introduced earlier in the film. As much as I hated lil Stinky… I was weathering Stinky. I seriously was. But later there was a character of such immense **** – offensively bad. The character was so bad, so incredibly awful – that it was a slap to the face. It woke me out of my ****-accepting stupor and made me angry. SUDDENLY my “inner fanboy rage” was awoken. As I watched this terrifyingly awful character named Ziro the Hutt. A seemingly female Hutt – with tattoos and make-up that sounds like a racist take on a Black New Orleans Crack-Dealing Whore. Because this Hutt speaks ENGLISH – and it is many times worse than I’m actually describing. This character was actually too much for me. So bad that every flaw I was looking past, was now a road sign to inadequacy and mediocrity. All of a sudden my brain realized that Asajj Ventress’ voice no longer was acceptable – and sure enough – the amazing Grey DeLisle, who originally voiced the character back in 2003 – had been replaced by a Nika Futterman – and that voice was missed. The character didn’t have that snarling menace anymore. I realized that nothing in this animated film felt right. I felt time expanding. It seemed that the film was dragging – nevermind that lots of **** was firing all over the place – and stuff was going boom and things were being revealed. I just didn’t care because this wasn’t what I wanted. I hated the score, the animation, the shots, the characters and most of all the retarded ******** idiot story. I hated the film. HATED IT. REALLY HATED IT. Does this mean the whole Star Wars Animated Series is doomed? No – but it isn’t a good sign. So much of this is awful because of the Hutt plotlines and character. I also feel that Dave Filoni must be a hack. His work here is sloppy – and depending on writers and directing talent – individual episodes may be better. This film was several episodes all strung together – my prayer is that the individual episodes will be both great and awful – and we’ll discover which talents are responsible for each. That said – the audience did have light applause. My father liked it. My sister felt too much was going on. Me nephew really liked it. That said – Yoko was complaining right along with me. She thought it was **** too. I know Moriarty liked it. Wonder what Quint and Massawyrm thought. ****. I hated a STAR WARS. That ****ing sucks.”

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    The Disabilities People are not just Retarded...

    by fiester

    ...their stupid: their protest is giving this film massive buzz and tons and tons of free advertising. Everyone's going to want to see it now and it's going to be an even bigger hit. Their cause would have been better served just leaving it alone. Sounds like they went Full Retard and you should never go Full Retard, even retards know that.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Mister Knowles... A little advice

    by billy_club

    I think that AICN should establish a policy of refusing to even mention release dates of movies that have been embargo'd even after the embargo date has passed. The only movies that get the embargo treatment are largely shitcan movies anyway. Why support any studio willing to embargo a movie just to try to trick the public?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    I cant help but get the feeling that

    by emeraldboy

    all this bruhahahahahahah is all viral marketing. Harry youve been had. They did it before to drum up support for a mediocre monster movie by JJ abrams and yes I did see cloverfield and yes it was very mediocre.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Wasn't the Ringer endorsed by the Special

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Olympics? How can this be anymore offensive?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:50 p.m. CST

    USA today is chiming in on the Harry embargo

    by irrelevntelefant

    can't wait until AICN posts an article about it... oh, wait...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    ooooo, giaro, you are so getting banned!

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:56 p.m. CST

    irrelevntelefant

    by Giario

    If so it was worth it. Free speech and fuck Lucas yo.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    The Ringer was funny.

    by Nachokoolaid

    But mostly for the cheese factor.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Oh Poor Harry...

    by biggles2_22

    ...I'm laughing at your ongoing "thing" with Lucasfilm. It's pretty amusing when you can't post a positive review of Phantom without getting shredded by your fanboys, and you can't post a negative review because you'll lose your secret Lucus decoder ring with built-in access pass. Dude, I can totally understand what you're going through. Consider it a compliment that you've been put under such scrutiny. Really! Truly a damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario. Might I suggest avoiding Lucas-related reviews in the future? Just some friendly conservative advice from a conservative who will not engage in political discussions with your TB'ers (or you for that matter). After all if you engage in an argument with a retard, you both end up looking retarded.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    I suppose the review was pulled...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...Because of the oft stated embargo. You don't pull the review, you don't get into screenings of their other movies. Which means no reviews at all for the next flick down the line. I'm honestly suprised Harry gets into any Lucas related critics screenings after reviewing stolen property of his. So I can see why they would be extra sensitive in regards to this.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    we'll speak of you fondling, giaro...

    by irrelevntelefant

    and when lucas calls you into court, ask him how he determines where to trim his beard, see as he has no fucking jawline or chin to indicate where to shave....

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    I just went FULL RETARD on this girl's ass

    by fiester

    She loved it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    "Embargo the Geeks" is the new "Nuke the Fridge"

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    sites now covering the embargo

    by ArcadianDS

    here's what i've found so far:<p> vally-news.com<p> usatoday.com<p> metroactive.com<p> hollywood-newsroom.com<p>

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Nancy Grace should cover the Embargo tonight

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Just went to usatoday..

    by Cotton McKnight

    And this is still a mystery. Lucasfilm chose an embargo? What are they, the trade federation? I don't get how they can "choose" to do anything here, unless they actually own the site (maybe this jives with that "harry sold the site" rumor a few months ago). <p> In any event, the graphic showing Harry Knowles and Greedo with a caption that reads "Going somewhere, fat boy?" is hysterical.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Harrys weird thing about the falcon...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...So Star Wars is essentially a toy commercial, and you WANT it to rape your brain? Your a strange man.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    USA Today "Pop Bitch" on Embargogate

    by Cedar_Room

    USA Today article: <p> http://tinyurl.com/578stp

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    So he can't get into future Lucasfilm projects. So what?

    by Cotton McKnight

    There are tons of people that do, and they will e-mail you their reviews. This is all about wanting to play with the latest toys and get all the cool stuff. And a trip to the ranch every once in awhile. If Harry was a congressman, he would be thrown out of office. Oh I forgot he is a liberal. Business as usual.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Dr Remulak?

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Nelson?

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    HIRSCH

    by Giario

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    fartman90039

    by chuffsterUK

    Please fuck off,you cock.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Full Retard

    by herow/1000faces

    My older brother is mentally handicapped. People call him "retard" to his face at the grocery store or shout "fucking retard" at him as they drive by. He knows what it means and it hurts his feelings. He would never say anything mean to a stranger not because he's not smart (he can be mean when he wants to!) but because he generally doesn't like to hurt people. I don't know why people think it's okay to use the words "retard" or "retarded"...maybe because they hear big stars like Ben Stiller or Robert Downey Jr. saying them on a 2-story movie screen or read it on AICN all the time and they think it's not a big deal. Who knows? I don't think it should be cut from the film, they can say what they want, it just strikes me as irresponsible to use it in the first place.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    ... GE JUDY

    by Giario

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Giaro, Hirsch... nice one!

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Kudos for Nelson I.E.

    by Giario

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST

    what happened to Mirajeff

    by BrightEyes

    ?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:21 p.m. CST

    glad they're not making cuts

    by Freakemovie

    I admit to using "retard" occasionally. The problem is, pretty much every downbeat word you can think of is disparaging to somebody. I stopped using "gay" after high school because there's just no way to justify it. Gay is not also a synonym for stupid (as numerous people have since tried to tell me), that's just plain wrong. So then I move onto "retarded" until I realize it's essentially just as bad. From there I get to "lame," which I really like, but even that technically stems from mockery of the disabled. Heck, I used "idiotic" above, that probably offended somebody too. I'm trying to be P.C., but let's face it, in today's vernacular it's fucking tough. Maybe I should just love everything and never say anything bad.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Whats wrong with the word retarded?

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    I mean, if your a retard...Then your a retard. Take your issue up with mother nature. In regards to using it as an insult; If your a tardo, than being called a "fucking retard" is simply being presented with a fact. However, if your a legally able minded person who is refered to as a retard, it may hurt the feelings of surrounding retards, as you are implying that being retarded is somehow insulting in of itself. Which leads me to believe that if people were to embrace the badge of FULL RETARD, it would lessen the negative conotations. Which means, in the future, when losing at xbox to your flatmate, you should derogratorily refer to him as a "fucking mute" instead, since thats one specialty niche of mongs that cant complain.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Because negative buzz is exactly what hurt the prequels.

    by Larry Sellers

    Lucasfilm has lost credibility. They can't afford to lose anymore unless they already have your money (even though they know it was theirs the second they released the trailer). It's just childish. You know what producers of shit movies do? They don't screen the film before the release date. If you have no confidence in the film, don't let anyone even have the opportunity to say something negative about it. Unless you want to enforce an "embargo" and look like a bunch of assholes. Their actions are more negative towards the film than any of those reviews.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    nukedthefridge

    by BrightEyes

    your site is even worse then the most terrible movie site Chud. I especially liked that post about how the Dark knight was going to "Nuke the fridge" HAHAHA.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Herow/1000 faces..

    by Cotton McKnight

    are you serious? Where the hell do you live that people actually do that?!?!? Good gosh I thought that we were all more civilized than that. As for "retard"- I have disconnected the word from it's derogatory meaning.. at least as it pertains to a segment of our society. I probably shouldn't, though. Sorry about your brother, man. Nobody should have to endure that kind of teasing.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't call a mentally handicapped person retarded.

    by fiester

    I reserve that word for people who act like mentally handicapped people when in fact they are not--those are the true retards. Most just act a little retarded. But every now and then someone goes FULL RETARD and then all hell breaks loose. <p>You never go full retard, man, you never go full retard.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:29 p.m. CST

    HR Giger's Alien creature smells like Gruyère cheese

    by Pacino86845

    No joke, I have verified this empirically!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    This Whole Embargo thing is a sham..

    by CharyouTree

    to get the focus of the Scriptgirl TB the other night.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST

    spamming the thread is lame sauce, dude

    by ArcadianDS

    what are you trying to prove here?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Ban fartman90039 because:

    by Pacino86845

    1) He hates cheese 2) Hates Star Wars Clone Wars 3) Made hateful comments towards Script Girl's anatomy 4) Hates love and freedom and liberty and doves

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    you never go full retard-to-mouth...

    by havocSchultz

    Respect the curds... Tame the cheese!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Free Speech...

    by Rando Calrisian

    As was posted in another talkback, USA Today Online posted an article Y'all should read. <br> <br> http://tinyurl.com/578stp

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Free cheese?

    by Pacino86845

    We all want that!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Whats the Cheese?

    by travis-dane

    Cheddar!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Retard is such a gay word.

    by Larry Sellers

    What kind of a dick-licking fag calls the mentally challenged retarded? Whoever does is truly gay. Balls deep gay. Like total FAG. No, I'm not homophobic. I love homosexuals. I hold absolutely no hostility towards their way of life. Homophobes are retarded.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST

    gaaaaa

    by CharyouTree

    this site takes longer to load than PureTnA

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Slowdowns are occurring...

    by Pacino86845

    because some asshole told the internet there was a free cheese tasting event happening here.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:44 p.m. CST

    are there retarded midgets?

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Lucasfilm and Warner Bros.

    by THE TRUE PINBACK

    I sincerely hope that there are people from these organizations reading what is being written here today. I, for one, appreciate what the reviewers say-reagrdless of if it is positive or negative. They HAVE NO BEARING on whether or not I see a movie. I make up my mind about that long before I start seeing reviews. But it is WRONG to have pulled the review to begin with. WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT THESE DOUCHENOZZLES THINK?!?!?!? Reagrdless of the circumstances here, Harry should have stood up to these retards (HI TROPIC THUNDER!!!) and left his review on the site. I've read it, and I am still planning on seeing the movie. If you want this site to have any semblance of legitimacy, you have to make these studio fucks know that YOU are in charge, not them. Hold the middle finger up high to them and let them know that their threats-whatever those threats may be- are empty and meaningless, not only to you, but to all of us who frequent AICN. DO NOT SELL OUT TO THESE PRICKS!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Slowdowns...

    by Rando Calrisian

    Occuring because someone from Lucasfilm probably uploaded a virus to AICN.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    I thought all midgets were retarded

    by Pacino86845

    and furthermore had an aversion to brie.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    hahah

    by CharyouTree

    haha cheese!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Let's Cheese it out then....

    by travis-dane

    I like my Cheese to get mouldy!Tasty...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Amen, True Pinback

    by Rando Calrisian

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    by CharyouTree

    My name is tallulah My first rule of thumb I don't say were I'm going Or where I'm coming from I try to leave a little reputation behind me So if you really need to You'll know how to find me my name is tallulah I live till I die I'll take what you give me And I won't ask why I made a lot of freinds In some exotic places I don't remember names But I remember faces Lonelyyyy You don't have to be lonely Come and see Tallulah we can chase your troubles away (ohhh) If your lonely You don't have to be lonely When they talk about Tallulah You know what they say Know one south of heaven's gonna treat you finer Tallulah had her training in North Carolina my name is tallulah and soon i'll be gone an open invatation is, the road i'll travel on i never say goodbye because the words upset me you may for give my going but you won't for get me

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    For more on Harry and AICN...

    by Jobacca

    Read the book Superman vs Hollywood. Puts Harrys X-Men 3 review in a whole new light....

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    fartman90039

    by kwisatzhaderach

    why can't spammers ever think of anything amusing to say?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Cheese

    by CharyouTree

    Cheese is a kind of meat A tasty yellow beef I milk it from my teat But I try to be discreet Ooh, cheese. Ooh, cheese.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:52 p.m. CST

    What about this censorship?

    by catlettuce4

    Both reviews of Clone Wars

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Hillary Clinton invented cheese

    by Pacino86845

    just before she assassinated the emperor of Afghanistan in 1903.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Lucasfilms ass-raped my freedom of speech. Twice.

    by Uncle Stan

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    The Passion of the Cheese

    by Nachokoolaid

    The passion of cheese <p> Like a butterfly you can transform <p> Finding your inner self through cheese <p> Brie <p> Chevre <p> Gruyere <p> Munster <p> Learning the love of cheese <p> Learning the love of you <p> Finding your inner cheese <p> Creamy <p> Tart <p> Dry <p> Moist <p> What kind of cheese are you? <p> What kind of butterfly are you?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Lucas raped my freedom of cheese

    by Pacino86845

    that's why it's got holes in it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    The Last Temptation of Cheese

    by Nachokoolaid

    A mind elixir, Held in anticipation The yearning to have it, Now, there, anywhere. Breathing the sharp and sometimes sweet scent. The first kiss of excitement that spills down the spine. <p> Lucky tongue gets the first contact, teeth letting go. Surrounded in a process of melding, a bite or not. Embraced by the wonder of oneness...... Something for every want, be it subtle or intrusive. <p> Soft and pungent, crisp and sweet. Feel the headiness, let go and enjoy, laugh. A taste of English Cheddar with Apricots, blueberries. Without bounds, Dive in to a Divine cheese.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    Salty cheese balls!

    by Pacino86845

    No kid's lunch box should be without 'em!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    To the Reader

    by Nachokoolaid

    Dear Lady, I beg you To cook as you please, But don’t overlook the Importance of cheese! <p> As a casserole topping All bubbly and brown, It will make your fine cooking The talk of the town. <p> As a spread for a sandwich Or a puffy soufflé It will help you to cope On your busiest day. <p> Its tang and its flavor Will tempt and will tease; ‘Most all of your dishes Can be sharpened with cheese!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    You know whats funny?

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    Aside from this of course http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfS0Gvp6f_I&feature=related . The likeliehood that Tropic Thunder would have come and gone with some people perhaps fondling recalling a black Robert Downey or a fat Tom Cruise. But now, thanks to the Storm Troopers Of Widney High, FULL RETARD has thrust its way to the forefront of the pop culture vernacular. You can't blame them for making a miscalculation like that though, after all, most of them probally need a social worker to help them tie their shoes.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    ooooh

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Most of these talkbackers seem...

    by Nachokoolaid

    to like salty balls, Pacino. I don't know about the cheese though. Maybe they should try The Zone. <p> Less hate, more cheese.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST

    READ THE CLONE WARS REVIEWS HERE

    by Freakemovie

    It's on Google Groups but it should work: http://tinyurl.com/5ctjs9

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Full Retard...

    by Nachokoolaid

    Is nothing like the full aroma of Limburger. Sweet nectar of the Gods...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Clone Wars?

    by Nachokoolaid

    Doesn't hold a candle to THE PROVALONE WARS.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Start a cheese war without me,eh?!

    by BuckminsterOhare

    Your mother was a hamster,and your father smelt of Edlepiz.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    you guys are all cheesetarded...

    by havocSchultz

    You never go full curds...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    I'll take The MIDNIGHT CHEESE TRAIN!

    by travis-dane

    Got Milk?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    You need to go FULL CURD

    by Pacino86845

    if you have any hope of making a decent poutine.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Just To Repeat - Repeat, Recheese...

    by havocSchultz

    Hey Guys, I'd invite everyone to take another look at my earlier post about Emmental...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Mouse!

    by Nachokoolaid

    There's nothing quite like a piece of cheese to nibble upon for pleasure and ease. No matter the time or state of mind greater joy than cheese you'll never find. Served on a cracker or a soft piece of bread a morceau de fromage will please your head. Roquefort, camembert, brie or blue served with fruit or in fondue God gave us cheese- a bit of heaven on earth to lift our burdens, providing sweet mirth. And after all our daily work is done we enjoy simple cheese just for fun. But remember the ancient custom of the house leave behind a kernel for the nocturnal mouse.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    clone wars review

    by disfigurehead

    Hola all. Massawyrm here. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away life was good and a movie named Star Wars rocked our god damned faces off. But those days are gone, in their place an endless stream of merchandising not meant for the average consumer, but the hyper specialized fan who still to this day must own everything and anything properly branded with the Star Wars logo. The inmates run the asylum now as Lucas long ago stopped listening to his soul as an artist - his heart as a storyteller – and has since begun listening to the slavering fanboys who cry themselves to sleep at night with their Darth Vader backpacks clutched close to their chests lest they separate it from their beating hearts. He’s long since stopped working with the geniuses of old, replacing them with young, idealistic artists who revere him as some sort of living Man-God and long to carry on his legacy rather than forging their own. He’s forgotten that the most important duty you have to your fanbase is not to give them what they want – but instead to give them what they REALLY want. Do the fanboys REALLY want a bunch of scenes of characters whose destinies we already know fly through a series of dogfights so their pretty ships can go PEWPEWPEW against lifeless moronic droids so incompetent you question the tenacity of anyone that would put them into service let alone fight a war with an army of them? Do the fanboys REALLY want to spend the next 20 years of their lives arguing that the movies they love don’t, in fact, suck the hair off of a nutless monkey? Do the fanboys REALLY want an animated television series not written for 30-year-old men, but easily amused 8 year olds on Saturday morning between bites of soggy Corn Puffs? Because that’s what they’re fucking getting with The Clone Wars. This. Is. Shit-ty. Everything that was wrong with the prequels is wrong again here. There’s not much reason to dredge out all those complaints again. The Prequels aren’t actually Star Wars movies. They’re Fanfic. Bad fanfic that tries to include every element you love about Star Wars without actually using those elements the way they were intended. And while some might argue that it can’t be fanfic if the original creator is involved, I would counter that the creator in question died a long time ago. In a galaxy far, far away. As an artist Lucas is entirely bankrupt, no longer able to conjure a single, tangible, original idea. And unlike other artists in his situation, he isn’t able to properly recycle the ones he had to begin with either. No, Star Wars is an ailing, dying beached whale of a property, too large to ignore but left too long in the sun to save. And the stench is unimaginable. So leave it to television writers to sit down and come up with a classic solution to lagging ratings. Their genius booster shot in the arm of suckdom? A plucky tween girl sidekick who keeps getting herself into trouble while being delightfully precocious and calling Anakin Darth fucking Vader himself Skyguy. Again. And again. And again. Every time this 14-year-old little monster opens her mouth to say something “witty” my jaw went slack and my eyes rolled into the back of my skull. She’s unbearable, absolutely excruciating to watch, and yet she finds herself in almost every scene of the film. She’s around so much I half expected her to pop up in scenes with the emperor or the Hutts, just stumbling into frame while saying something “cute” like “Oops, wrong door,” or “This isn’t the shuttle bay.” Seriously, the only way she could be any more annoying is if she added the word MEESA to the beginning of every sentence and BOMBAD to the end of it. You beginning to feel me? I get that they might be working towards a Luke Skywalker type transformation, but that doesn’t replace the fact that A) her very presence makes me want to punch the person nearest me in the face repeatedly and B) she will not, ever, play a part in the mythology of the original films or the fanfic prequel films at all, unless Lucas goes back in to tinker with them AGAIN. So odds are she will meet a bitter untimely end sometime later in the series, like randomly slamming into an asteroid like the Han Solo clone from Shadows of the Empire. If and when that happens, I MIGHT tune in. If I don’t just youtube the scene. Again. And again. And again. Then there’s the unending problem of putting characters in peril that we already know the fates of. Look, George. Having Anakin and Count Dooku have a dual ISN’T EXCITING. We already know what happens to Dooku. He died on screen YEARS AGO. We know he doesn’t die at the hands of Skywalker. Nor does Skywalker get so much as a scratch from him. We know this already. So why devote so much time to it, unless you’re completely out of ide Oh. The party’s over guys. The only one’s left here are the folks who haven’t realized it yet. I’m sure the Star wars fan forums are going to be aflutter with the revelations that Dooku once fought Anakin or that Anakin actually once went back to Tatooine, or that Jabba has an Uncle that - unlike other Hutt’s - sounds like a bad New Orleans piano player. But for the rest of us? This is just another episode in a long line of attempts to charge you for something you loved as a kid. I mean honestly, how much shit would we be giving Coppola if he had greenlit The Further Adventures of the Corleone’s? Because that’s what this is. Will I be watching the series? After an hour and a half of being bored to tears? Not on your life. That path leads only to fear and anger, and we all know that once you start down that path, there is no turning back. If you WANT this to be good rather than KNOWING it will be good, odds are you’re gonna be in the same boat as myself. This is no better than the Prequels. Scrub that hope out of your heart now. Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em. Massawyrm

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    I'm confused

    by ShoNuff86

    I can pretty much say over the past 10 years that I've more or less agreed with every review written by Moriarity and Harry, so I feel pretty ashamed of all the negativity. Harry said Journey 3D sucked because it in fact sucked hard. James Mason and H.G. Wells were probably rolling over in their graves together. Aintitcool is still my favorite movie site and probably always will be.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    no its okay to call mexicans filthy dirty immigrants

    by BrightEyes

    but don't you dare think about saying anything negative about script girl. I'm mexican by the way, this site is getting more absurd by the hour.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Massa, Harry- Go rub your nutsacks on Lucas's drums

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    On second thought...

    by Nachokoolaid

    fuck mice. More cheese for me.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Poutine...? Or Not Poutine...?

    by havocSchultz

    Grater (as in cheese grater) in french is Râpe... So George Lucas grated my childhood!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:13 p.m. CST

    The Hutts of Star Wars fame

    by Pacino86845

    are actually a highly-evolved form of space-cheese... it'll all be explained in Clone Wars!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Mexican?

    by Nachokoolaid

    How about some QUESO?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Dont say anything negative...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...About Jack Nances Revenge either. Never mention the fact that hes a fat lying failure douchebag.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LIBERALS OR PC

    by smackfu

    I don't know if you neocon doucebags have noticed or not, but 99% of the people complaining about the use of the word 'retard' are parents of mentally handicapped kids who are ultra sensitive about it because their kids come home crying every day because other kids call them retards. Well, tough shit. Kids are brutally cruel, if the kid wasn't retarded he would have been called 'fag' or 'lardass' or 'ginger freak' and come home crying anyway. This isn't about Political Correctness or liberals, it's just about pissy parents who think that one word that points out their kid is foolish is somehow different than another that means the exact same thing.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Haiku for Cheese!

    by Nachokoolaid

    Mmm... Mozzarella. <p> Stringy orgasm of cheese. <p> Happiness is here.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    script girl reminds me of a New Foundland stripper

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    I've got some Venezuelan Beaver Cheese...

    by havocSchultz

    that's turning blue...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    "Foolish"?

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    They are retarded. Faulty would be a more appropriate word.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    *Hand Wave* "You saw no Clone Wars review."

    by Flim Springfield

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Interesting fact.

    by Nachokoolaid

    George Lucas based the design of Yoda's head on a slice of bad cheddar he found at the back of his fridge.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Dont say anything negative...

    by havocSchultz

    ...About MontereyJacksRevenge either. Never mention the fact that hes fatty and tastes like swiss cheese's douchebag...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Havoc

    by Nachokoolaid

    Did you catch my Venezuelan Beaver Cheese reference earlier? I'm sure you know the source. No one else took a stab at guessing.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    script girl reminds me of a New Foundland stripper as well...

    by havocSchultz

    Lots of cottage cheese...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    The logic in that CLONE WARS review...

    by Nachokoolaid

    had more holes in it than a slice of Swiss. CHEESE, that is.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    kevinwillis.net

    by Dingbatty

    Yes, you represent all conservative Christians.<br> I'm sooo certain conservatives wouldn't be up in arms over a dark comedy about the troops in Iraq depicted as gleeful baby-killers, or a movie about John McCain being a Viet-Cong sleeper agent. Give me a break.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Speaking of strippers...

    by Nachokoolaid

    Anyone ever "make it rain" with slices of American cheese? Bitches be making it clap for that shit, yo!!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Nacho...

    by havocSchultz

    Would you like some of Peckinpah's Rogue Cheddar...?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Dingbatty...

    by Nachokoolaid

    What do you know about Christian conservatives? I bet you don't even know their preferred cheese. Amateur.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Honestly,

    by Nachokoolaid

    I'd like to just rub cottage cheese all over my body, especially over my genitals. Where it's most hairy. Mmmm... let it stagnate for a while. Talk about aroma!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Only try to understand...

    by havocSchultz

    There is no cheese...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Then....

    by Nachokoolaid

    what was I rubbing on my genitals?!?!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:32 p.m. CST

    This talkback is...

    by BuckminsterOhare

    full-blown ricotta'd.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Personal boogeymen.....

    by Darth Macchio

    personally...I don't see liberals as being that threatening. "don't say 'retard' you meanie!!" oh yeah? what are you gonna do? throw tofu at me? shake your finger at me? and right-wingers? pasty old people who ride butt scooters after 50? I can easily outrun those things! lucas could afford to hire the world's greatest hitman to kill people. but I've got balls of steel and will be happy to call all his work since 1983 complete and utter shite.<p>but, mainly, i just wanted to post some drivel in this thread. oh and to wish I was clever enough to have a screen name that would get people to mention it on tv. that would be sweet!! i'd probably get some free stuff too! SWEET!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    ScriptGirl needs to go back to stripping...

    by fiester

    Along with Diablow-job Cody.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Darth Macchio

    by Nachokoolaid

    You may have balls of steel, but, more importantly, do you have balls of cheese?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Macchio, as always

    by samsquanch

    you are a breath of fresh air.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Welcome to the future...

    by jdb1972

    ...you, my friends on the left, have created. Enjoy!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:08 p.m. CST

    All this LEFT and RIGHT crap...

    by Nachokoolaid

    and in the MIDDLE... those with the power of CHEESE. BEHOLD!!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Protest != banning free speech. Protest = free speech.

    by Baked

    It's like assholes think only assholes are exercising their rights and anyone who complains is infringing. And most black people, including the NAACP, didn't give a crap about C. Thomas Howell in Soul Man as far back as the 80's -- it was poignant comedy then just like it is now.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    They are picketing in West Wood Cali.

    by andrew coleman

    I plan to see this movie a lot now. And even when I go see other movies I will pay for Tropic Thunder. PC ass clowns need to shut their retard mouths.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Mentally Handicapped vs Retarded

    by Yeti

    Mentaqlly Handicapped - a person who is born with or develops a deminished capacity to reason, think logically, learn from mistakes. <p> Retarded - a person who has full mental capabilities but seldom or rarely uses them (also see dumbfuck)

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    I'VE GOT THE NEED ... FOR CHEEZ

    by BringingSexyBack

    Whiz!

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 8:36 p.m. CST

    WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE GAY RETARDS?

    by BringingSexyBack

    Thoughts? Suggestions?

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:04 p.m. CST

    I Think The Gay Retards Should go To Gay Retard Discos

    by LaserPants

    And bad touch each other consensually.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Stupid

    by SuckLeTrou

    This is the stupidest thing I have ever read on AICN. (Not including talkbacks.) Harry, you clearly have no understanding of free speech and censorship whatsoever. They had the right to make their film, and people who found it offensive had the right to condemn it. THAT is free speech. Magazines and websites willingly making a corporate decision to avoid media controversy HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREE SPEECH AT ALL. Just like the decision to pull your review. The right-wing seems to have so perverted and misused the "liburls hate free speech" meme that even liberals are buying into the retarded mis-use of it. I'm not saying the protesters aren't overly sensitive or out of line, but give me a fucking break. By the tone of this piece you'd think Cheney was putting members of the press into a gulag. It's a fucking movie, and culture changes as it evolves. You don't see pro-KKK movies coming out of hollywood studios; NOT because it is illegal to say or create such a thing, --it's not illegal, Hate speech in and of itself is not illegal in most cases. Regulatory bodies, often VOLUNTARY in the media, such as the MPAA self-censor to tailor themselves to their own market, the society they exist in. Those films don't exist because society will not stand for it and once upon a time, people complained about such portrayals in media, just like these people are doing. Using a free speech argument in this way is just dumb and self-defeating. I'm very disappointed to see it here.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Society is just full of dumb, ultra-sensitive whiners...

    by OgreYouAsshole

    who too often get their way. Chalk one up for the silent majority this time! Hopefully the trend continues because I'm fucking tired of it.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:56 p.m. CST

    politics equals shit

    by halberd

    Politics is the most ridiculous thing to have come into existence.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Well, at least there is the red...

    by Gearfree

    band trailer. There is a few segments of the Simple Jack movie near the start. The only problem is that you might have trouble finding it. http://tinyurl.com/58do3h

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I think they take things on too simplistically.

    by Lobanhaki

    They try and prevent all offensive speech, and they only end up making it forbidden fruit.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Silver Lining

    by a rolling stone

    At least they didn't force Stiller to make RDJ take the black make-up off. People understand it's not the offensive "black-face" of yesterday, and that is a big step for this country. I think no matter what you say, there will always be idiots who zoom in on two or three details to nit-pick and complain about. They'll never enjoy the forest view, on account of all the damn trees in the way.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:39 p.m. CST

    SG

    by a rolling stone

    And speaking of free speech, I thought ScriptGirl was a waste of time, but she never really bothered me. Not until the massive recall of TBs and multiple bans "in her honor". Now she's a waste, and she bothers me. I'd rather watch a Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants marathon than pay her another ounce of attention.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 10:47 p.m. CST

    When Lucas dies Timothy Zhan will be hired

    by ganymede3010

    To write the Heir to the Empire Trilogy! (Fanboi wishing and speculation)

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 11:10 p.m. CST

    It's just a movie....

    by JERRY HORROR

    ...Ya' know? It's not like a pointless war that young men and women die everyday for. I say screen TROPIC THUNDER FOR THE TROOPS! In fact, send them bootlegs. Or donate a portion of the gross profits to the disabled. www.myspace.com/jerryhorror

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 12:29 a.m. CST

    WHEN DID PISSING OFF THE STUDIOS BECOME AN ISSUE???????

    by J-Dizzle

    Now AICN has been online for many years, and my memory may be fuzzy on this so correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Harry pissing off the studios left, right, and center long before he was invited to these early screenings?<p> I mean the WHOLE REASON AICN was so notorious was because Harry dared to take on the wrath of the Hollywood Suits and post many things which angered these same suits. Now, all Hollywood has to do is click its fingers and Harry complies.<p> In the words of the Joker: "I mean, what happened? Did your - did your balls drop off?"<p> Its the studios own damn fault for not making Harry sign a confidentiality agreement. What are they going to do if Harry keeps the review up? Not invite him to any screenings? Harry didn't give a rat's arse back then, why care now? It doesn't make any sense.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Reuters refers to Downey Jr's role as "blackface"

    by Darth_Inedible

    http://news. yahoo.com/s/nm/20080811/people_nm/blackface_dc Oh Reuters... Shamelessly flogging their tiny PC liberal dicks for attention.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Who cares...

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    ...when AVATAR IS FUCKING OUR EYEBALLS IN 2009!

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 12:42 a.m. CST

    J-Dizzle

    by BrightEyes

    So well said. This site use to stand for something.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 1:44 a.m. CST

    To those who seem to relish using the word retardid

    by TerryMalloy

    There is a book, called "The Dictionary". In this book, there are printed the entire collection of words used in the English language. I suggest opening one up someday in order to find a more appropriate, interesting, insult. For instance, I could call you a "mugwump" Nazifucker. In a way, that is much more offensive. And certainly more creative.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 1:50 a.m. CST

    TERRYMALLOY

    by J-Dizzle

    Its spelled R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D. Perhaps you should use a dictionary once in a while too. :p

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 1:51 a.m. CST

    PWNED

    by TerryMalloy

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 2:16 a.m. CST

    "Nuke the Fridge" is the old "I just got off the phone with"

    by ironic_name

    in that it won't take off.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Harry has a beer and cheets on his retard..

    by Bootskin

    Wow. The Ass-hattery continues eh? Mori, the sand in the vagina comment was pure comedy. I love you.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 3:59 a.m. CST

    harry gotta eat wolfman's too silver nards!

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 5:26 a.m. CST

    What the fluck is a retardid?

    by mrfan

    I will have to get a dictionairy to find out.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Wonder why I haven't been banned yet?

    by classyfredblassy

    Have I not been offensive enough? Do I need to try harder? Now fuck off....

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Darth_Inedible

    by LaserPants

    Well, um, it is blackface -- a white actor playing a black man. The difference here, and as the article makes quite clear, its supposed to be a satire of actor narcissism, not a jab at blacks. It appears one of the running gags in the movie is how racist it is, and how oblivious the actor is to it due to his narcissism. Do try and actually READ the articles that cause the knee-jerk neocon bile to rise in thine throat before spewing your several lunches all over your floor about it, thanks!

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 8:02 a.m. CST

    This is fuckin' retarded...

    by screamster101

    Johnny Knoxville can make a movie playing a mentally handicapped person, but Stiller can't??? WTF?!?!? They better not change a single frame of this movie because of this shit!!!

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 8:10 a.m. CST

    I don't get whats offensive about Black Face....

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...Even if your eating KFC and watermelon. So its a dude pretending to be black? Is he denying you employment or the right to marry a white man/woman? Seriously, lighten the fuck up. Also, you'll notice that Knoxvilles mongoloid sports movie employed numerous real life broken people. Their pay cheque offset the crude humour made at their expense. It also helps that The Ringer was a sentimental pile of shit that wasn't funny.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    WhinyNegativeBitch

    by screamster101

    Good point about it being a pile of shit. The Ringer was a steamer... By NO WAY is Stiller being malicious in this film. NOR will I go out and laugh in a mentally handicapped person's face after watching this film. (Well, unless they say something funny.)

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Well, try not laughing at this...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ... http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/80306/YMCA_Sung_by_Retards.html ...I can tell you right now, If I was in that studio it would take fish hooks to keep my smile turned down.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST

    simplejackmovie.co m is gone?!?!?

    by screamster101

    They removed it?!?!? I visited that site everyday for a good laugh and now IT'S GONE?!?!?! tuggspeedman.co m even removed the simple jack link!!! *CRY*

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    What other offensive hate terms are OK now ?

    by m_prevette

    Come on Harry...can we say chink now? Kike? Darkie? Wop? Fag? Slant? Gook? Funny that free speech is defended on one side but not the other. What a joke...

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Um...Not to burst your bubble Prevette...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...But retard is not an offensive hate term. You would have to be a retard not to know that. Kike is a derogatory term for a jewish person. Gook a derogatory term for a vietnamese person. Retard is the standard english language term for one who is retarded. Such as yourself.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    As the father of an autistic child...

    by whofan71

    I personaly can't wait to see this movie. I've seen the RDJ "retard" speech scene and think it is hilarious. There is a difference between making a harmless joke in a movie and actually being mindlessly cruel to someone who cannot help the way they were born, and I seriously doubt thats the spirit or intention of the Simple Jack character and references in the movie.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    whofan71.. Exactly!

    by screamster101

    Simple Jack is a rip on actors that have potrayed handicapable people in the past. It is NOT on hadicapable people in general. This is NOT malicious in any way, shape, or form. My cousin is in a special school. This movie does not offend him at all. So why should I be offended? We will both be first in line to see it. SO "F" OFF ADVOCACY GROUP!!!

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    If people can say retard, then people can protest it

    by runfoodrun

    That is free speech, we can all take a side and defend it, so no, free speech is alive and well Harry! Grow up, just because you can only see one side doesn't mean it's the only side...

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Can't we all just get along, retardedly?

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Nuke the Retard!

    by irrelevntelefant

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    So can a retard call another Retard a Retard?

    by cookylamoo

    You know, like give each other a high five and say, "Yo, my Retard"

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Let's face it, once you're on the PC Toboggen

    by Andre the Frog

    And you sail past the N word the C word and the K world the next bump is

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Let's face it, once you're on the PC Toboggen

    by Andre the Frog

    And you sail past the N word the C word and the K world the next bump is the R word and it doesn't stop until you can't call a person a Jerk or a Moron.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Fucking retards

    by dr sauch

    the sad part is, freedom of speech works both ways.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    mac or pc

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    irrelevntelefant, we are.

    by ironic_name

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    here's how retarded this website's management is

    by ArcadianDS

    instead of waiting a few weeks to screen Clone Wars without any embargo, they attended a very early advanced screening WITH embargo. They could have waited for the later non-embargoed screening and posted a review for us like all the other sites did - the ones who said to the studio, 'screw off your embargo, we'd rather wait a few more weeks and y'know, do our jobs.'<p> instead, the geek-led AICN said, "Screw our readership, we want to see the movie RITE NAO!!! and agreed to not actually do their jobs in order to see this movie super-duper early.<p> thanks for putting yourselves first, guys. After all, its you that pay the bills for the site, amirite?

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Schools’ peanut bans spark backlash... COME ON PEOPLE!!!

    by screamster101

    Parents against the ban have an unlikely ally, a food allergy advocacy group... MSN has the article. Read it and weep. I declare a new advocacy group... The "Shut The Fuck Up If You Don't Like It" Group. Anyone else want to join?

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Give us some more "Hilarious" Black Stereotypes Anchorite

    by G100

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Anchorite

    by toadkillerdog

    Your words "If that's the case, most likely you are LOOKING for things to be offended by. You WANT to be offended so you then have something to rail against, to protest and to condemn. Because your life is that fucking meaningless otherwise." <p> If that aint the pot calling the kettle black.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Robert Downey Jr. Agrees with some of you...

    by Francis Begbie

    U.S. disability advocates kept their promise and staged a protest at the premiere of Ben Stiller's latest movie Tropic Thunder.<br><br> The film, which also stars Jack Black and Robert Downey Jr., has been slammed by 22 disability groups in the U.S. for its repeated use of the word "retard" in association with one of its main characters Simple Jack.<br><br> And demonstrators showed their distaste for the movie by picketing the Mann Village Theatre in Los Angeles on Monday night insisting the film "humiliates people with intellectual disabilities".<br><br> Stiller, Black and Downey Jr. walked the red carpet amid shouts from angry protestors who were waving placards urging cinema goers to boycott the movie.<br><br> Despite the negative reactions to the picture, studio bosses have denied it is offensive towards people who suffer from mental disabilities.<br><br> A protestor at the event tells the BBC, "We feel that the use of the word 'retard' throughout the film 15 or more times is done without any regard for the dignity of people with intellectual disabilities."<br><br> But Downey Jr. took time out on the red carpet to defend the film, telling reporters he was glad people had decided to picket the premiere as it was their right as free citizens.<br><br> He says "That's the great thing, you know, if I want to protest something because it offends me that's my right as an American and it's also any artist's right to say and do whatever they want to do." <br><br>

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Thats from IMDB's horribl excuse for a news section by the way.

    by Francis Begbie

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Um...Not to burst your bubble WhinyNegativeBitch

    by Iowa Snot Client

    You say, "...But retard is not an offensive hate term." I have a friend with Down Syndrome who is very offended by "the R-word" (as she calls it). "Colored" (and even "black") used to be in standard use too, but it was deemed pejorative and "African-American" adopted as PC. The only reason people still use "Retard" is because they know the PC police won't bust 'em for it, while "Nigger" is a guaranteed fine.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    By the way, the term is "RETARDOS"

    by OBSD

    I can't believe nobody on this board has brought up that episode of Space Ghost. Best Episode EVER. "We moisten your dreams with man-urine".

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I'm as liberal as they come,

    by OBSD

    And I hate these PC fucks with the hatred of a thousand white hot suns. They have nothing to do with the progressive movement, they're just a bunch of fucking cowards who afraid of putting their ass on the line to affect any real change so they whine about the correct terms to call someone. I had a boss who was the most pretentious PC fuck ever. Every time I'd talk about a female, I'd say "this girl", and he would interrupt "you mean WOMAN?" Here's a guy that sells porn comics to people and jerks off to pictures of girls getting spanked in front of customers and he's acting high and mighty like he's a defender of feminism. Fuck that guy. And fuck all of the PC motherfuckers. Right in the ass.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    I know a lot of people that are seeing this movie...

    by mrfan

    regardless of the protests that it is getting. Many of the people I know work in special education or have a special needs. They think the trailer looks great and are looking forward to seeing it. A friend of mine, that is now a special education instructor, went with me to see Something About Mary. Laughed his ass off especially with Matt Dillons speech on retards.<p>I have to agree with what Robert Downey said. They do have the right to protest. Also, Tropic Thunder deserves to be seen in the way it as meant to be seen uncut.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight was too smart for RDJ

    by MELGIBSONS_DICKCHEESE

    Says so in Moviehole interview http://tinyurl.com/68osgk

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight was too smart for RDJ

    by MELGIBSONS_DICKCHEESE

    Says so in Moviehole interview http://tinyurl.com/68osgk

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    WhinyNegativeBitch , my mistake

    by m_prevette

    I thought you were burning in hell. Damn. Too bad. Fucking low life

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    PC liberals protesting w/o seeing this movie =

    by gavdiggity

    conservative Xtians protesting Last Temptation of Christ w/o seeing that. <P> An uptight asshole's an uptight asshole, regardless of political affiliations.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Censorship/PC

    by DennisMM

    PC does not belong to the left. It belongs to anyone who screams because they think their holiest of holies are threatened by words. That's people and groups all over the political spectrum. However, I'll forgive any group their foolishness over unpleasant language if that group supports action I support. I don't like words like "retard" and "ni**er." Even so, I believe in one's right to use those words when they're not being used indiscriminately or deliberately to hurt people, so I dislike broad attempts to silence those who would use such words. But if a group wants to ban the word "retard" and supports gay marriage, for example, they've got my backing. I'll never support the right to speech over the right to action. Thank you, Republican Party, for a fine example.

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    So, Anchorite,

    by DennisMM

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Shit ...

    by DennisMM

    I look like an idiot there ... <br> <br> Seriously, Anchorite - proportionally, how many attempts to block free speech or performance or freedom of publication do you think have come from the left as opposed to the right? Ask the ACLU and you'll see. The ACLU takes on cases from both left and right, mainstream and extreme - it sued Skokie, IL, to allow the Klan to march - and overwhelmingly, freedom of speech and access have been challenged by the right. Ask the American Library Association, while you're at it.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 12:34 a.m. CST

    It's funny...

    by vicvoom

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 12:39 a.m. CST

    by vicvoom

    why don't these idiots ever get mad about those shitty Friday the 13th movies? Those movies have been making the mentally ill look bad for decades.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Sticks and Stones

    by dumbpeoplesuck

    Will break my bones, but words will make you protest me. This country's not maturing. Instead, we're keeping babies children until they grow old and die. First, realize growing old, and growing up are two totally different things. Then, grow up, get over it, stick out your chest, and move the fuck on. Bunch of self-righteous assholes. Hitler might even be proud of the way the world is turning. Ban this word, ban that word, using *fill in the blank* is a hate crime; quick, burn all the books and films you can find that have 'those' words in them.<br>Oh, you say, who the fuck am I? Look, I got called plenty of names when I was a kid, on through school, and even beyond. I've survived, and I probably owe it all to Looney Tunes for fucking me up enough, early enough, to not fucking get my tit in a ringer when someone recognizes me for the asshole that I am.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Honestley...

    by whofan71

    It's just the same knee-jerk reaction that we see all the time. The example that comes to my mind is "The Last Temptation of Christ." I mean, c'mon. I'm a Christian, and I was pissed at all the people who protested that movie without ever having seen it or read the book it was based on. They heard a little propoganda, taken out of context, and boycotted the movie based on misinformaiton. Freakin' retards!

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    The problem is, these advocacy groups do have a point...

    by Dragon Man

    One of the issues they're having with this movie is that there are some lines and references that are going to go right into the public consciousness. Terms like "Full Retard" are already making their way into the speech of people on this website, like Massawyrm in his review. I haven't seen the film yet but I do think that it's supposed to be satire and that Hollywood is supposed to look like a collection of douches. But that will one of the unintended results of this film being successful. You'll hear people everywhere using "Full Retard" and it'll become a catchphrase, which is hurtful no matter how you slice it. Having a couple of relatives who are handicapped, I can't help but sympathize in that regard.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Not much of a point, though

    by kiwiblackm

    Is it that bad to call someone insane? Isn't that unsympathetic to those with schizophrenia or post traumatic stress? How about the word "idiot?" Is everyone going to get their knickers twisted because it might offend those who can't do simple math? It's not their fault they're naturally born that way either.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    I see your point, kiwiblackm

    by Dragon Man

    I guess the difference for me is that in this specific case, the group that's affected is one that is so innocent and needing of goodwill from people. Not that clinically insane people aren't deserving of sympathy, but this group is in my opinion even more so. On your point about the word insane, that word has a clinical connotation that's been overused. In the case of the word retard, that's an offshoot of the word retarded which has no use or place in our vocabulary.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Dragon Man

    by kiwiblackm

    Yeah, I also see yours; I remember kids being unbelievably cruel to other retarded kids when I was young, and by no means do I think that's okay. I just feel the crawling sensation of political correctness with this issue. And thanks for being so civil. Oh, and Hate-Speech, on the subject of Harry's Clone Wars review - just go over there and bitch about it. I can't believe how wound up people are.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 11:16 a.m. CST

    @ whofan71

    by gavdiggity

    Thank you for backing up my point. I'm a lefty, but when I hear people like this protesting a movie they haven't seen, I get pissed. <P> I heard the guy who's leading this "crusade" on NPR yesterday, and he admitted that he hasn't seen the movie. When the woman interviewing him asked him about comparing the use of "retarded" to "nigger," he said that if they had been using the N word instead, the movie never would have been made. Apparently he's never seen Blazing Saddles. Which, to be fair, probably WOULDN'T get made in today's climate of over sensitivity. <P> Fucking busybodies...

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 12:34 p.m. CST

    The word "insane" ...

    by DennisMM

    has nothing to do with developmental disabilities like Down Syndrome or even mental illnesses like schizophrenia. "Insane" isn't even a scientific/medical word. It's properly used only in legal matters, to describe a state of mind that voids responsibility for a crime. There is no such thing as "clinically insane," because insane is not a clinical diagnosis. <br> <br> I have a mental illness - bipolar disorder - but I'm not "insane." Almost no one is "insane" because of the flawed manner in which the word is defined by the legal system. That's why the verdict of "guilty but mentally ill (or deranged)" was created in many states. <br> <br> Pet peeve of mine. Carry on, thanks.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST

    And while we're at it ...

    by DennisMM

    let's use "schizophrenic," acurately, shall we? <br> <br> Thanks for your input, anchorite.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    H-S, pal?

    by DennisMM

    You are so banned.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Correction

    by DennisMM

    Don't know how I screwed this up. The ACLS fought for the right of the Nazis to march in Skokie, IL, not the Klan. This was the genesis of the "Illinois Nazis" joke in "The Blues Brothers." Once my head worked and I remembered these things the first time.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Anchorite, may I offer your own words on the Dixie Chicks on Nov

    by mjgtexas

    Why? Because the leftists say so. Don't you get it? They stood up and told their views to the world without fear of consequences. Isn't that heroic? Of course, when the hammer of consequence came down (HARD!) on them, they were shocked and dismayed, embittered and enraged. Why? Because they realized (too late) that the bulk of their fanbase liked them for their musical talent, not their political stance. They cried foul when radio stations stopped playing their music. The left propped them up as martyrs for the cause. But what else should have happened? Should the radio stations have lost untold millions in ad revenue because Natalie Maines decided to speak her mind and make unpopular sentiments in a foreign country? No matter what the leftist propaganda states, her Free Speech rights were NEVER impeded. To this day, she can say whatever she wants about Bush and the war in Iraq. But the bulk of Americans didn't want her comments to be representative of their own feelings, and some of them got pissed off and acted reprehensibly, writing nasty threats to the Chicks. Is that why the Dixie Chicks are supposed to be heroes? Because some pissed off country fans wrote angry letters or made death threats? If that's the standard for heroism in this country, then surely George Bush is the most heroic of all. Or perhaps Dick Cheney or Karl Rove. Maybe this is what happens when you don't believe in God. You find people like Noam Chomsky or Natalie Maines or Bill Clinton to idolize. The problem is, they aren't worthy of the adoration. All the Chicks have managed to do is to come across as bitter, mean-spirited musicians who have the mistaken impression that their thoughts and feelings are more important than that of their fanbase. Which, by the way, has become mainly left-leaning democrats. And Canadians. Kind of hypocritical from your rants the past two days, no?

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 10:43 p.m. CST

    I would just like it to be known

    by Dr Gregory House

    that I am not prejudiced against retards. Some of my best friends are retards. That is all.

  • Aug. 14, 2008, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Not being able to say RETARD is just GAY!

    by Particularly Hard Vato

    In fact, it's the gayest gay thing I have ever gayly gazed upon! Gay!

  • Aug. 14, 2008, 5:40 a.m. CST

    This *was* going to be a rental...

    by Sightblinder

    But fuck it if I am gonna let some dickless wonder with no sense of humor tell me what to watch. Congratulations, this kinda shit from the religious nutbags got me to go see Golden Compass too. Fuckin' retards.

  • Aug. 14, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Robert Downey jr. went full Niger you never go full nigger!

    by goon80

  • Aug. 14, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Downey is correct of course.

    by Andre the Frog

    The true artist must say fuck you whenever anyone tries to curb his freedom. Otherwise you're not an artist, you're a panderer.

  • Aug. 14, 2008, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Free Speech goes both ways.

    by DEX

    I saw an advance screening of Tropic Thunder and I get that they're making fun of Hollywood - I am on Ben Stiller's side. These advocacy groups have just as much right to protest it, though. If they want to remind us that certain language is hurtful, that's ok. Just a casual glance at the hateful Talkbacks, and even the title of this article shows us that they have a point - that you don't want hate language entering popular lexicon. People (generally white males) like to slam political correctness but if it makes stupid people think about choosing their words more carefully...

  • Aug. 14, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    what all the people of the world need to realize

    by smackfu

    is that there is no such thing as good words and bad words. It's all made up, in your head. And if you get upset when people say certain words...that is a mental defect on your part. That is you being so used to something by sheer repetition you've accepted it as the truth and lost all ability to look at it from any other perspective.

  • Aug. 14, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    It's kind of like this

    by smackfu

    in the UK 'shag' is considered a raunchy, offensive word similar to 'fuck'. Basically in Britain, they see an Austin Powers poster as reading 'The Spy Who Fucked Me'. But we don't, it's not an even remotely offensive word to us, it's just sophomoric along the lines of 'poop'. The reason for this is simply because they *believe* it's an offensive word, and we don't. So if your offended by words like nigger and retard, it's simple because you believe their offensive. And it's up to you what you believe. So stop believing it's offensive. And you'll never be offended again. Problem solved. Do you have free will, or don't you? Right. So any offense you take to anything in life, is YOUR problem, you're CHOOSING to be offended by it, so stop blaming other people for something you CHOOSE to do.

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST

    This movie.....

    by emeraldboy

    just opened and a 7 million dollar opening is not great. Meanwhile beating this at the box office is Pineapple Express which took in 12 million dollars. To qoute Father Ted Crilly and Dougal Maguire. " careful now!" "down with this sort of thing"!

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    I have a developmental Disability

    by emeraldboy

    and saw The ringer. Which I thought was a mixed bag. I enjoyed it untill they got to the special olympics HQ. from then on i disliked the movie intensly. Spitting image was my fave show growing up as was scrap sat on the radio and i was a huge fan of rory bremner, though I find his stuff has gotten stale. Anyhoo, Tim Schriver creeps me out and what I got out of The ringer was that Special Olympics despite the invaluable work they do are unbelivably patronising. Louis walsh had abuse verbally hurled at him when he said that the only people to get anything out of Special olympics ireland where polticians trying to get thier names in the paper for phot ops. Walsh then said that his mother had been involved in special olympics for twenty years in co. mayo. Tim Schriver creeps me out and I find the whole special olympics organisation to be patronising. Though as Chair person and cofounder of the adult support group in irelands Dyspraxia Association and as someone who was been involved in that Association for the past 6 years. We will possibly need to meet with them, talk to them about raising awareness. We will see. If robert downey jnr has no idea what batman the dark knight is about. Its about a Wealthy man who dresses up as a bat and beats the shite out of crims. Confused, robert. Well, i seem a very wealthy actor who dressed up as wonder Woman? Who was that again? Joking......

  • Aug. 15, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    SmackFu

    by IceCreamSoldier!

    I hope you never have to learn empathy for this particular situation the hard way, and that you can continue to live in ignorance.

  • Aug. 16, 2008, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Ridiculous

    by KirkLazarus

    Anyone boycotting or protesting obviously has not seen the movie, because the issue is shown in such a broad, comedic manner that there is no way to be genuinely offended by it. People really need to get a clue and/or lighten up.

  • Aug. 18, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Harry Goon80 and Smackfu are assholes

    by JaySmack

    So the NAACP having better things to do than protest this movie's modern-day blackface routine is somehow a "healthy sense of humor?" You say that like it's a sign of progress that blackface isn't assaulted from every corner. Yes, I do believe that makes you an asshole. Enjoy your crown. In a perefct world you three worthless fucks would be piled on each other Abu Ghraib style and then flayed with a line of barbed wire.