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What Wasn't Hurling Dan Vasser Through Time?? Series Creator Kevin Falls Reveals The Secrets Of JOURNEYMAN!!

Published at: Aug. 9, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

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Because NBC cancelled “Journeyman” after only 13 episodes, viewers never learned who or what was sending startled newspaperman Dan Vasser back and forth through time on his mysterious missions, or why. This was a problem. Kevin Falls, who came up in the TV business writing for “Sports Night” and “The West Wing,” was new to science fiction when he created “Journeyman,” but the time-travel drama quickly attracted rabid fans aplenty. When the episodes stopped airing, many wanted very much to know the secrets of “Journeyman,” and what future episodes would have held for Vasser. Back in late December, Falls answered via e-mail all of AICN’s questions on the matter. But because there was a writers strike at the time, and no one was yet certain if “Journeymen” creators would be permitted to produce episodes beyond the 13 NBC had already aired, we were asked not to reveal the secrets of Falls’ “Journeyman” playbook until he was certain the small-screen adventures of Dan Vasser had come to an end. That time, sadly, has come. Who or what was sending Dan on his sudden missions into the past? Was it God? Nature? KEVIN FALLS: Let’s just say it was too specific and grand to be science or government. Would we ever learn? We would have led you to the water's edge and let you figure it out. The later conflict of the show was going to lie with those people who were trying to find the cadre of travelers. Would they try to manipulate them for their own self interests? [Recurring FBI agent] Richard Garrity was coming back for sure. We also were aiming for a series ending where the key people Dan helped through the course of the season would figure in a Rube Goldberg-inspired climax. Not quite on the level of save-the-world like “Heroes,” but something with some scope.

Did Livia [Dan’s ex-fiancée, who turned out to be a time-traveler herself, from 1948] stay so long in her future and romance Dan because The Powers That Be meant for her to act as his mentor? Initially. And her mission was to get Katie and Dan together. At first we were going to do it because we wanted [Dan’s son] Zack to have some traveling power (to the immediate future) but felt that was too genetic like in [the novel] “The Time Traveler’s Wife.” We really ran away from anything derivative. Anything that harkened back to other TV shows was coincidental. Does Livia's story mirror that of Evan [the time-traveling mental patient at the center of the final episode]? Did she decide to pull out of Dan's life [by faking her own plane-crash death] to facilitate a mysterious greater good? We kept going 'round and 'round about that. We felt that Livia was keeping some secret from Dan that was huge and tragic. Why could Livia only go forward from her native era? At some point (when Livia dies maybe?), would Dan suddenly start moving into the future as well? We just thought it would be cool to give them each a specific and separate gift and we liked the tragi-romantic notion of them cursed to never live in their respective presents. Would Dan have met the elderly 2008 Livia in the first season? Yes. Absolutely. She was alive. Many of the fans projected that and they were right. Did we ever learn what did Livia did for a living in 1948? We were going to have her in law school and her husband being threatened by that. And maybe the husband would try to take advantage of her gift. Did Livia use future technology to further her finances? I think we know what happens when you do stuff like that. There's blowback, like in Episode Nine. They can only make money to help them survive in their travels. So she didn’t "invent" the radar range or the UNIVAC or The Clapper? That was Evan. He was smart that way. One scene that kept getting cut out of the pilot and episode 9 was Dan needing cash in the past and gambling on some well-know bowl game. But it got cut for time and I still regret it. Were Dan and Evan born during the same comet pass in 1972? People shouldn't get too locked into the comet thing. That was just one theory. Are The Powers That Be necessarily a force for good? I think the end game was for the good. We wanted to explore some darker themes early on, but our ratings dictated otherwise. I wanted Dan to have to shepherd a hit man through his life to kill someone. It would really fuck Dan up, but there'd be a bigger reason for it. Sort of like life (not the TV show) we would have done it [late in the first season]. Was it not irresponsible of the The Powers That Be to snatch Dan away while his car in was in drive? What Dan came to learn is that he better adjust his life to fit the TPTB and not the other way around. And he did. Non-Vassers never seem to see the time-travelers vanishing or appearing unless they're supposed to. Can one assume this is somehow by The Powers That Be's design? Are they that omniscient? You know, the idea of the white light was more to help with transitions. But the idea was that the believers got to see it. We used a little more than I wanted later, to be honest. But the strike limited my input toward the end. In fact, I'm blown away by the response the last two shows got. We had to rush them before the strike. I did my rewrites on both the weekend before we walked. I was lucky Tracy McMillen, Aeden Babish and Matt McGuinness did such a good job on the first drafts of their episodes. But we could have used a couple more coats of paint. But thank God I had my co-EP Alex Graves minding the store. Would a future storyline deal with Dan erasing the government's knowledge of his ability? Why not?

Did Dan himself tell a young [Livermore Labs tachyon expert Elliot] Langley about his ability decades ago, around the time that photo of Langley posing with a preteen Vasser was taken? No. But I think Langley was on to Dan at a very young age. The season finale would have brought together some if not all of the characters Dan saved -- to do what? Well, it was going to be a plague, but then “Heroes” did that. When we were told “Heroes” was doing it, they suggested we change ours. No way we were going to win that one. We would have come up with something, but remember, I could read the tea leaves in mid-October. I decided then, let's think in terms of 13 [episodes].

What else was ahead for Dan, Katie, Livia, Jack and Jack's hot girlfriend? How many of the [never-shot] final nine episode storylines had you worked out before the strike? Katie and Dan were going to split up for a while. [Dan’s brother] Jack and Dan were going to live together and then Dan and Katie would get back together. Livia was going to die in episode 20. Dan was going to save her in 21. And in 22, Dan would come back to his house in the present like he did in the pilot and someone else would be living there. Katie and Zack would be gone and this time Dan would have no idea how to get his family back. And then we'd start season two. I'm getting depressed thinking about it. This staff was so fucking smart. We would have just gotten better. You know, I'm not bitter toward NBC as much as I am the mainstream critics who collectively dismissed us without giving us a second look. I think when we went out we were doing some of the best TV out there. And I’m so grateful that the on-line community embraced this show, actually got the show and ended up being the wind in our sails for the second half of the season. I spot zero prior sci-fi in your filmography. Have you always quietly harbored an interest in the genre or was it more that NBC herded you toward it in the wake of its success with "Heroes"? You're right about that. Nothing in my resume, nor did I watch any sci-fi. But not because I turned my nose up at it. Quite the opposite. I didn't think I was smart enough to understand it. My brothers were big sci-fi fans and I always sort of envied them for it. (My brother Mat is one of the founders of Sideshow Collectibles.) I was a big sports nut as a kid and was sort of the outsider. But I have a deep respect for the genre and think shows like “Battlestar” filled the void left by shows like “The West Wing” as it applies to social commentary. And the same rules apply to sci-fi as they do to more traditional dramas -- rich characters and compelling stories. So putting you into sci-fi was NBC’s idea? No, my agent Marc Korman suggested time travel after he heard that ABC was looking for a show in that genre. I pitched “Journeyman” to ABC (the best pitch I've ever given) and they passed. NBC was the last place we went. If they would have passed, I would have been on “Shark” another year. I found the genre so liberating and challenging. We got to use time travel as a prism to comment on marriage and infidelity, sibling jealousy, lust, etc. I like to try different things. I don't know if I'd do another sci-fi show, but I wouldn't close the door on it either. I like to mix things up. I liked “Studio 60” a lot, but maybe [series mastermind Aaron Sorkin] should have done his unique take on a cop show or something different. By the way, he’s not done with TV, yet, and we’ll be the better for it. ----- Since our e-mail chat with Falls in late December, NBC announced a “Journeyman”-free autumn schedule and the trade papers announced Falls was at work instead on a Fox pilot based on the long-running Argentinean TV series “Lalola,” about a womanizer who finds himself trapped in the body of a woman. Falls and I resumed our virtual conversation a few days ago: Have you seen Blake Edwards’ “Switch”? Yes. How is “Lalola” different? Well, the set-up is the same -- womanizing man turns into woman, has to deal -- but this pilot is based on the Argentine format called “Lalola,” so there's a “bible” we'd loosely follow. Frankly, the show isn't as simple as it sounds. I've read some “Journeyman” fans dismissing it. But a lot of folks dismissed “Journeyman” early on because they thought it was a rip-off of “Quantum Leap” and the show became so much more. This will be funny, hopefully smart, provocative and turn on its head the relationships between men and women. Dana Calvo, a “Journeyman” alum, has been my window into the gender. Playing the readers' advocate here: Still kinda sounds like "Switch." Yes, there's no getting around it, LaLola does sound like “Switch.” And the challenge will be squeezing out 100 episodes, but the Argentine version managed to make 150. However, if we get past the pilot we'll have our work cut-out, no question. I do know this: We'll be pushing boundaries and getting into some situations that haven't been seen on television before. I thought I had a fresh take on the time travel genre and we were just getting to lift-off speed when the plug got pulled. By the way, I'd put our 13 shows up against all the returning second year shows and dare anyone to say we shouldn't be among them. Anyway, our show won't be what anyone expects beyond the pilot, I guarantee that. And it should be funny. You’re working on other things as well? I've got two other projects at Sony. One I didn't write, but it's a great script with a star who has never done TV before. I'm attached as the showrunner if it goes forward. In fact, everyone wanted the [Sony project’s] star for “Journeyman” last year. I'm not going to get into it until we go out to the nets, but I'll give you a scoop if it sells -- and it will. The other is a spec I wrote during the strike and it's another angle on a sci-fi subject that the nets have been trying to crack for years -- cloning. Although, as with “Journeyman,” my way in is more personal and intimate. This one I'm keeping under wraps because there are other cloning projects out there. But I think you're going to see less sci-fi developed this year. That's why I haven't gone out with it yet. Falls says that at the moment there are no plans for a “Journeyman” DVD or Blu-ray set, but fans with a computer and $20.69 can still purchase the complete-series Unbox version here.


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  • Aug. 9, 2008, 2:33 a.m. CST

    As usual.....the writers know as much as we do...

    by Aloy

    about the storylines.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 2:49 a.m. CST

    I'm so depressed too....

    by theycallmemrglass

    Fucking NBC literally ROBBED us and fucked up our heads by pulling a great soul searching sci fi show with so much promise. Journeyman pisses on Heroes 2nd seasons and even the first season. Fuck am I depressed.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 2:53 a.m. CST

    This was a good show and will be missed

    by Aloy

    I hated it at first but the stories toughened up and showed promise. I guess it's too much to expect these shows to be solidly story boarded given their low life expectancy. Like Heroes and Lost you get the sense that there's a mix and match style of writing and you have to hope like hell that the writers are on their game every week and not just adding new characters to pad out the series.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the Info

    by Xiphos_2

    Journeyman was a great show to bad NBC didn't have the sack to stick with it, fuckers. I hope you keep wallowing in fourth place NBC.<p> Moon Bloodgod was quite the piece of ass, that goes without saying, but I wanted to say it anyways.<p>Herc, thanks for getting the info for us Journeyman fans. It was much appreciated.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:20 a.m. CST

    great show and cast

    by ls420

    I will miss it

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST

    The lack of answers in this article...

    by Pops Freshemeyer

    ...make baby Jesus cry. I miss Moon.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Journeyman was fantastic

    by TaraLivesOn

    A crime it was not renewed! I looked forward to it each week, far more than a show like "Heroes". NBC pulled a FOX with this one :-(

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:41 a.m. CST

    ultimately, it would have been a big hit

    by prbt

    Family and friends who don't normally watch the same programmes as me, they loved it too. Stupid NBC.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:43 a.m. CST

    dumb...shoulda turned it into a comic book series

    by bacci40

    and answered the questions there...there was a core audience who woulda bought the book..way to cut off your nose to spite your face...but i didnt like the show, mostly because mckidd was forced to use that awful american accent...quick note to hollywood...there is a san francisco accent...i should know, i grew up there...its slight, but it doesn exist...just like a manhattan accent exists...would be nice if it was occasionally used

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:55 a.m. CST

    to those who believe the show was brilliant

    by bacci40

    why then could it not hold the heroes audience? seriously...millions of tvs shut off or changed channels as heroes ended...so please explain how a second season wouldve picked up audience share....especially with what appears to be the final season of heroes

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 4:45 a.m. CST

    I miss the Journeyman talkbacks

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    ..almost as much as i miss the show itself. :(

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 5:01 a.m. CST

    Hey monkey

    by Xiphos_2

    Whats happening hoss? Its been a while. Those JM TB were fun I agree with you on that point.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 5:17 a.m. CST

    "when we went out we were doing some of the best TV out there."

    by Executor

    Yes. Whole-heartedly agree. Problem is, when you started, you weren't. A pretty damn good pilot, but then the show treaded water for 4 or 5 episodes until they kicked off the overarching storylines with the FBI guy, etc.<p> It never really gained much momentum in the crucial early months, so when it got good (and it got very very good) no one was around to care. I feel bad it was cancelled, but I understand why.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 5:21 a.m. CST

    I miss the Journeyman talkbacks too...

    by Executor

    ...because I miss all the funny people who cry and moan and say they were ROBBED and curse NBC and say they should have stuck with it and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!! <p>Really?? Good show, but good enough to get THAT worked up over. It ain't The Wire or BSG here, folks. And (as I say in my post above) the show kinda had it coming and did itself in.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 7:13 a.m. CST

    to answer bacci's question

    by Bloo

    I watched Heros almost every Monday night and would turn the channel after Heros, why because well frankly I was so pissed at Hero's season 2 that I wouldn't want to watch more. Good tv holds an audience, again citing my own experience after watching Chuck I'd watch Heros, after watching Heros (an hoping each week that it would get better) I'd turn it off and not watch Journayman. I blame Journayman's lack of an audience on Heros, that and the way it was marketed made it look like a Quantam Leap rip off, by the time I believed enough people that Journayman was good I was too far removed to get into it (that would have been around episode 8 or 9)

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Would Dan have gone back in time and

    by snowpuff

    made sure Jeff Zucker never got that job as an Olympics intern at NBC?

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Would liked to have asked Falls...

    by snowpuff

    ...why didn't SciFi pick this show up? Was there ever any discussion?

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Bernie Mac just passes away

    by optimus122

    RIP

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Why have people write scirnce-fiction...

    by Smerdyakov

    That know nothing about science fiction. Everything ends up as soap soap soap. And this guy had bugger-all of a plan. No wonder I dropped this after two episodes.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Curious question...

    by smackfu

    to the people who are always pissed off when they find out that a show's creators (lost, heroes, BSG, Journeyman) haven't pre-scripted the entire thing right to finale. Do you believe that everything on earth, from volcanos erupting and killing people right down to you losing the big game, all happens according to God's plan and has a specific mysterious reason for happening that you're just too small to see yet?

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Bloo, that is the craziest and most pathetic thing I've

    by smackfu

    ever heard. You determine whether or not to watch the show that comes on after the show your currently watching based on how good the show is your currently watching? wtf. That is absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Call me crazy, but you know how I determine whether to watch the show that's on next? If I LIKE the show that's on next. Did I just blow your fucking mind or what? Try it out sometime, watching shows because you like them works out pretty well.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    bacci40

    by MrD

    So you judge brilliance based on ratings?

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    It WAS a rip off of Quantum Leap...

    by Logo Lou

    Not that that's a bad thing. I didn't dig Journeyman, but feel sorry for the fans. It should have had another shot. Hell, I still miss John Doe & Brimstone.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 10:14 a.m. CST

    This still pisses me off...

    by br1947

    Journeyman is the new Firefly. Fuck NBC and FOX

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    MrD....nope

    by bacci40

    and heroes was far from brilliant...but if you cant hold an audience, the network will not renew...thats the economics of the biz...i didnt really see the show as brilliant...to me it was quantam leap without the humor...and someday, someone is gonna shoot a show in sf and show more than just a 3 block area...

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Smart Show

    by Turd Furgeson

    This gets cancelled after 13 episodes but Desperate Housewives is still on the air. This show was smart, treated the viewers with respect, challenged convention, and dealt with interesting subject matter. This show being cancelled is more proof that TV is getting too dumb. ABC, FOX or a cable network should really try to revive this show...

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST

    It WASN'T a rip off of Quantum Leap...

    by Ayii

    You think Quantum Leap invented the "time traveller has to fix something" formula? They didn't. There was a show called "Voyagers!" that aired 7 years prior to Quantum Leap and I'm sure there's probably older TV shows and literature that did the same thing. I thought Journeyman did a great take on a common sci-fi staple, time travel. I was really hoping it was coming back, too bad.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Ayii, Star Trek invented the concept

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Their time travel episodes were all about fixing the future vie the past. Even the whale movie was.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    smackfu

    by Bloo

    if you read the entire post, I said at the end that by the time I started hearing this show wasn't bad was around episode 8, 9, out of 13, which others have said it about the part it really got good<P>However each show does hold the responsibilty of trying to keep an audience, why do you think NBC put a lot of weak shows around Sienfeild/Friends in hopes that that auidence for those shows would enjoy, stick around for Suddenly Susan or Caroline in the City or something<P>Why do you think they continually saddeled Newsradio with weak shows, in hopes that the NR audience would bring an audience to the other shows, but those shows ultimatly killed Newsradio. Chuck kept me for Heros, Hero's lost me as I'd be flipping through channels and find something else I'd be interested in and forget frankly that Journeyman was on

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Sorry Time Tunnel may have invented repair concept

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Oops I forgot about Time Tunnel and their continual tinkering with the past.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    I'm still beyond Pissed Off

    by skydemon

    The way NBC pissed away this show. Short Sighted IDIOTS!! Any other networks smart enough out there to pick this up??

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Couldn't get into the show.

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    I tried to watch it and it wasn't terrible, but I can honestly see why it got cancelled. It just lacked that hooking action that great TV shows have. And there wasn't enough 'narrative variety' to keep the show interesting. His ex in the show, Moonblood something or something another, was INCREDIBLY fuckably hot though.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    EvilWizardGlick

    by ChildOfMen

    I don't think so; in the Time Tunnel they didn't do any sort of "time repair"; more specifically they were lost in time, and usually thrust into the middle of some historical disaster (the Titanic, etc.). They were never able to repair time (put right what once went wrong, etc.). Sapphire & Steel was sort of about "protecting the integrity of time" but still not quite of the same "time repair" genre as something like Quantum Leap or Journeyman.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 11:52 a.m. CST

    thanks for posting this

    by coachaaron

    i'd wondered about how this show would play out for so long now, it will be missed. it was my favorite new show last year, and NBC blew it. heroes was garbage last year, season 3 looks much better but to think that they canned journeyman because they felt they had too much sci-fi on the network was ridiculous.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    New series concept: Wrap it up

    by br1947

    That would be something interesting, something completely episodic like Twilight Zone, invite cancelled series to 'wrap it up' in one episode. Legal would be a nightmare, but it'd mean alot to fans

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Follow the money

    by agentf1

    I think NBC knew this was a good show that had A LOT of potential, that became clear by the 5th or 6th episode.<br> The problem was that NBC/Universal didn't own the show. It was owned by 20th Century Fox.<br> I'd be willing to bet that had NBC/Universal owned the show they would have almost certainly renewed it to either continue on NBC or move the production to Vancouver and air it on SciFi as a way to keep "serious quality scifi" part of the network with BG ending.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    last episode

    by ericj224

    I actually really liked the way the last episode played out. We got enough information to be somewhat satisfied, and that was enough for me. Personally, I like it when some of the mysteries are left just that- mysteries. And yes, Moon was smoking!

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    this show should have had Heroes' timeslot

    by oisin5199

    Since Heroes blew so horribly last season and this show was freakin' excellent. I loved these characters and was completely rooting for their marriage. From the first episode with the scene of burying the ring and the 'I'll always come back to you,' I was hooked. I also don't understand the critics' dismissal. Even Matt Roush from TVGuide, who usually's right on, was really harsh and I never understood why. It was NOT a Quantum Leap ripoff. The main point was not the people he helped but how those adventures immediately affected his home situation. In Quantum Leap, Sam went from person to person and didn't have a home base, plus he became other people, while Dan was always Dan, which made things more interesting. Besides the time travel fixing thing, there was NO similarity. The final shot of the series when Dan's wife finally got to see him go and the camera goes into her eye: beautiful, brilliant. They should have done a graphic novel. Everything NBC has for next year just looks so lame in comparison. Christian Slater? Really? Knight frickin Rider? Robinson Crusoe? Come on. Journeyman needs a dvd set with full commentaries. Get on that, somebody!

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 1 p.m. CST

    So, why was he traveling through time?

    by Sappers Forward

    I thought we were going to get some answers here. All we got was speculation and sub plots. How the hell do you create a show and not even know what's at the core of it yourself? For once I'd like to see a shows creators come up with something from beginning to end and have faith in their creative abilities. Not rely on popular demand from the viewers and critics to shape the outcome of things. But then that's T.V. for you and nobody wants to loose their spot on the schedule because people don't agree with your creative expression. No backbone.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 1 p.m. CST

    So, why was he traveling through time?

    by Sappers Forward

    I thought we were going to get some answers here. All we got was speculation and sub plots. How the hell do you create a show and not even know what's at the core of it yourself? For once I'd like to see a shows creators come up with something from beginning to end and have faith in their creative abilities. Not rely on popular demand from the viewers and critics to shape the outcome of things. But then that's T.V. for you and nobody wants to loose their spot on the schedule because people don't agree with your creative expression. No backbone.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Stop picking at the scab!

    by Steve_Dooku

    Thanks for posting this Herc, but man the thing was just starting to scar over. <br><br> Broken record, but this WAS an excellent show and not a QL rip. Best written characters I've seen in a long time. Thanks Mr. Falls.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Pathetic end?

    by ciroslive

    Okay, who should have been sending Sam Beckett through time? The Quantum Leap accelerator? He was going to the exact right time and place to fix things that went wrong. The goddamn DEVIL was in a previous episode saying Sam was screwing with things that THE DEVIL was putting wrong. If you watched the series its a not huge jump that God is the one doing it...

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    AAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    You know I had finally convinced myself that it was all just a bad, bad dream. A forgotten nightmare. Now somebody had to write an article about it and bring it screaming back into my fevered brain. <p> Thank you so very much. <p> I'll be at the liquor store if anybodys looking for me.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Bloo

    by smackfu

    I know that's why networks program their blocks that way. The thing is, they do it that way for the same reason ad companies spend millions on ads...on the assumption that most people are dumb and easily manipulated. Personally, when a show I'm watching is nearing an end and I want to decide what to watch next...I turn on my tv guide, take a look at what's on next, and pick what I want to watch most. The show I'm currently watching has absolutely no bearing on what I'm going to watch next, unless it's the sequel to what I'm currently watching. This is how people with free will decide things. Based on what they want, not what a corporation put infront of them to watch next.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Bacci40

    by CeejayNightwing

    The fact that so many people who don't have short attention spans and can see potential stuck with the show to the point it started presenting stories far superior to its initial set, means this show had the makings of a classic Sci Fi drama and you simply remained clueless just like the others who short-sighteded wrote it off as some variation on Quantum Leap. QL did not start nor did it hold all the rights to TV Time Travel stories. Back when I was a kid Irwin Allens Time Tunnel show was doing Quantum Leap and so was Doctor Who, then there was Fantastic Journey in 1997 which also predates Quantum Leap, and then Voyagers in 1982, and even after Quantum Leap we've had TimeTrax, SLiders and Life on Mars. So if people like you who grow up watching one themed show can't accept another show on the same theme, then its not the problem of the show, its simply your problem! Journey man was a great show, it was easily the best new show out of everything this year and just for the record, it did have humor, just not forced or delivered in a can! Kevin Falls should consider continuing the story in a set of novels or a Graphic novel. This has worked for Firefly V and Alien Nation in the past. Moon Bloodgood was one sexy beast BTW

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST

    I think

    by optimus122

    Somehow the showrunner still thinks there is a glimmer of hope that he will have a 2nd crack at it. Thats why no definitive answer...eh nah, probably never was a reason created as of yet.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    There was an answer in there - of sorts.

    by jgsugden

    What pushed him through time? Not science, not government - it was too precise for those types of explanations. If you can read between the lines, you'll read that as nature/God/destiny/Oreos being behind his 'leap' (don't pretend you don't worship the BWB goodness of Oreos). The show wasn't 100% original, but NOTHING is. It was fun to watch - and I wanted to see more. That is all that matters to me.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    plotting the endgame

    by oisin5199

    I'm not sure that people who complain about this get how tv writing works. In most cases you're more concerned about the journey than the destination. When I watch shows like this I usually don't care what the huge guiding force behind everything is, because it's never going to be as interesting as the stories being told about the journey. Look at classic western literature. Heaven or hell are boring in and of themselves. But the road to either one, that's interesting. After all, it was called Journeyman not Destinationman.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Fuck.

    by CatVutt

    Well, that was depressing.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Spymunk 13

    by ChildOfMen

    To be fair, Quantum Leap's finale did sort of seem to leave it a little bit of an open question about whether it was God or something else (personally I got the feeling that the bartender there was more strongly hinting that Sam was in fact controlling his own leaps, and even seemed to more explicitly say so by telling him he could control them... and Sam of course used that at the end to help Al). Although of course it leaves open the question of how those leaps did end up sending him to the right places and times to fix what went wrong. And clearly there was a theological bent to the whole thing (especially with the whole "Evil Leaper" thing). Given the context of the show, sci-fi trappings aside, it does seem like there was a bit of a clear theological bent to the whole moral issue....... in particular the idea that Sam did have to "fix" what went wrong before he could leap again. I think this is what made it very different from something like Time Tunnel, where they explicitly couldn't "fix" what went wrong.... although the Time Tunnel's philosophy was clearly that you can't "fix" what went wrong because it already happened. Although the interesting wrinkle perhaps was that sometimes their actions did contribute to making things happen the way they were supposed to.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Don't forget 7 Days.

    by Steve_Dooku

    Add it to the "time travelers fixing stuff in the past" list

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    this show was fucking brilliant

    by Mr_X

    the first epsiode was boring, but the ending, the ending just got me hooked, i watched and kept watching and then epsiode 7, it just totally blew up, every epeiode after that was superb, fantastically layered storylines comign together and you could see the awesome storylines they were developing . this was intelligent sci-fi, and this series was better then heroes. download the torrents dammit watch and see what the fuck you missed. FUCK NBC really. fuck them.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Bacci40

    by Mr_X

    do yourself a favour mate, watch the 13 epsiodes all of them. really. if you cant see what those that watched saw in them, then fine. but if you do watch with an open mind you'll be gutted like the rest of us that a fine show was shot down before it's time

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    ARrrrrrggghh TOO SOON!

    by Mr_X

    the wounds are still fresh. dammit, i would love to rewatch this series, but i cant, because i know it ends and there's no more episodes. one day i will again. one day. FUCK YOU NBC!

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Hmmm. kinda disappointing that

    by FrodoFraggins

    the writers had no clue about key parts of the show. I agree with others that it's absurd for key plot threads of the show to be completely unknown by the writers. It makes you assume that all they do is plan/write one episode at a time and put in what they think sounds cool and figure it out later when they have to.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    This show was 100 times the show that QL was

    by jmyoung666

    I am so disappointed it was canceled. <p><p> I find it surprising that this guy was a science fiction novice, as the show was one of the better ones out there. <p><p> The Fugitive - I mean Incredible Hulk - I mean Touched by an Angel - I mean Quantum Leap never really rose above its basic ancient premise. In just 13 episodes, this series managed to include more ideas.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    I'm kind of glad it got cancelled

    by samsquanch

    "Let’s just say it was too specific and grand to be science or government." <p> Kind of says it all, doesn't it? This was going to go the 'Touched by an Angel" route, and you all fucking know it. Good Riddance.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 7:02 p.m. CST

    a spec he wrote during the Writers Strike??

    by the power of GREYSKULL

    he gonna burn in hell for that one

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Mr_X...i watched the first 4

    by bacci40

    sorry...i could never get past mckidd struggling with the accent...it was fucking anoying...im a native san franciscan, and guess what, the city has a very large irish community...so large, and so close that i knew kids who, while born and raised in the city, still had the brogue...and im sure mckidd can do a better irish accent than he can an american...but i went through those 4 epis...and i was bored...nothing against you guys...but i just couldnt get into it...but its online, so who knows...maybe soon ill get really bored and try to watch the other 9...

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 7:37 p.m. CST

    This Just Reminded Me...

    by CHEWBLACCA

    ...how much I loved (and miss) this show. - I wonder if it could have survived if they had just cut the music budget. Probably not. :(

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 7:40 p.m. CST

    I agree captboulder

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Journeyman would have been perfect for USA or Sci Fi - both of which are owned by NBC, if I'm not mistaken.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 7:49 p.m. CST

    CeejayNightwing...time tunnel???

    by bacci40

    you gotta be kidding...when i was a kid, i thought that show was cool...when you watch it as an adult and realize that it had no budget and was totally absurd...they show up in ancient rome...everyone speaks english...they show up on some island during ww2 and the japanese speak english...and the only epi i recall where the question of changing the past came up was the one where they end up on the titanic...and the most absurd epi was where the time machine was somehow attracting haley's comet...or was it the one where they meet the aliens...and the idea that i have to wait 7 epis to finally get hooked into a show is totally absurd...its like sitting down to a 2 hour movie and being told that it really gets good around the hour and a half point...and i know quantum leap wasnt the first...but it was the best at what it did

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Kevin Falls, really disappointed me

    by comedian_x

    with his answers there. One, he wasn't even interested in Sci-Fi and had no respect for genre. Two, he didn't even know what his show was about. This explains why is was so disjointed and all over the place. The concept is great -- the creator ruined his own show though.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Hey fellow JM lovers

    by VegasRon

    miss the TB!<p> Fuck anyone who didn't like this show or repeats the idiots' duel mantras of "if it was so good, how come it didnt get great ratings" and "it's a ripoff of QL". Fucking retarded horsefucking mouthbreathers.<p> Anyway, much love to the JM TB regs.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Oh and NBC's replacement for JM is...

    by VegasRon

    Christian Slater.<p> Kevin McKidd would fuck slater up from SF to Alexandria and back again.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Mckidd was awesome..

    by Billyeveryteen

    He's great in Rome too.<p>Moon Bloodgood is so unbelievably hot, I changed my name to Jupiter Thunderpenis.

  • Aug. 9, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, Bacci

    by VegasRon

    the first 4 or 5 eps of JM are pretty pedestrian. It's either ep 5 or 6 that things really take off.<p> When you're bored one weekend, watch the whole thing. The final episode, "Perfidia" is one of my all time favorite hours of television.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 1:11 a.m. CST

    i really loved this show..but..

    by soup74

    this article made it sound like the end of the show was going to make it seem like a higher power was making dan time travel..without ever saying it was 'god.' (leaving that up to the viewer)<br><br>that would have been a really lame ending..but then, this show was good enough, they probably would have found a decent ending.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Stupid NBC...

    by mrplowking

    Journeyman was a fuckin' great show and I've burned them all to disc. I was holding out hope that another network - or even cable - might have picked it up. But alas that hope is gone now. It's criminal that Journeyman was cut short, but crap like Charlie Sheen's alleged "comedy" shit-show is still chugging along. I hope the networks all burn in hell.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 2:41 a.m. CST

    You call those answers?!

    by Akira Cowabunga

    Fuck you. Waste my time some more you motherfuckers, I've got nothing better to do. Except to skull fuck you idiots who waste my time by promising answers and giving me shit instead.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 3:25 a.m. CST

    So who was doing it? Still don't know.

    by V'Shael

    Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes, these post-cancellation interviews simply reveal that the writers were fucktards who simply dodged a bullet by having their show cancelled. <p> I remember trying to find out what John Doe was all about, because I really liked that show. When I found out what the writers had planned, I was glad they didn't have the chance to fuck up the show with their insanely stupid revelations.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 3:58 a.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by Xiphos_2

    What did the writers have planned for John Doe?

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:15 a.m. CST

    bacci40

    by Mr_X

    <br>yeah i understand the accent issue. Personally it didn't effect me. I actually couldn't watch babylon 5, because of Londo's hairstyle. It's true. it reminded me of a turkey, and after watching the first season, i couldn't hack it any more.</br> <br> Do yourself a favour bro, try and make it through the other 8 episodes, and in sequence, it just opens up man. dans brother jack is such an ass, and yet by episode 8/9 you'll end up loving the guy. the stories just get better and better, and you'll hopefully realise like the majority of the talkbackers on this thread, why they miss the show so damm much. Seriously. give it a shot, whilst there absolutely fuck all worth watching right now on tv. When folks on this site, express a love for a show / movie that i havent really gotten or go for, i give it a try / second shot. just to see if they were right. and for the most part they normally are.</br>

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Xiphos_2

    by V'Shael

    After the show was cancelled, one of its producers revealed the secret of the main character's true identity in an interview with TV Guide: the Phoenix Organization, he said, was a group conducting research into near-death experiences. They believed that the sum total of knowledge in the universe would be conferred upon them at the moment of death, so they killed John and brought him back to life in order to gain access to that knowledge. <p> Another explanation of Doe's identity was eventually put forward by the show's producers in the pages of Entertainment Weekly. The article read, in part: <p> What Would Have Happened: The villain unmasked in the finale was actually just a Phoenix member with some fancy facial reconstruction. Turns out, the Phoenix believed Doe was the Messiah and its members were actually protecting Doe from a second group, which wanted him dead. The truth: Doe was injured in a boating accident. That mark on his chest? A scar left by a piece of shrapnel from the explosion. His Überbrain? A by-product of transcending his body during a near-death experience, traveling to a spiritual plane where all the universe's questions are answered. So Who is John Doe?! "You'd think we actually would have come up with his name," the show's producer revealed. "We have no idea," he finally admitted, before adding "Fred." <p> On the popular weekly podcast Diggnation, Alex Albrecht said he was given a reason for the black and white vision, as well as all of the knowledge John Doe had. It was said that when you reach the gates of heaven, you are given the answer to every question you'll ever ask or that will ever be asked. And the reason for the black-and-white vision was an effect of being returned to earth.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Offtopic: The Heroes season 2 alternate (original) ending..

    by Pennsy

    before the writers strike nuked it - now on youtube: http://tinyurl.com/6f43cu.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    THIRTEEN!!!!!!!!!!!

    by medicinaluser

    Should have got Pullo and made it a time travelling duo out to save the world from...stuff...like.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:31 a.m. CST

    The problem with this concept is ...

    by The StarWolf

    I've long had a problem with this sort of show. Not because I'm adverse to time travel - I'm a science fiction nut - but because of the way it's handled. We've got either an omniscient, God-like being, or some major organization in the background, powerful enough to have TIME TRAVEL ... yet they keep having to find some poor, clueless shmuck to do their work for them?! Hunh? It's as if the CIA kidnapped someone at random in Kabukistan, drugged them into unconsciousness, flew them to Bolivia, dropped them off in a back alley, and hoped they could be subtly nudged to rescue some geneticists in a university in another city before the secret police got to them. Think about this: it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Dan's Dad

    by agentf1

    I thought that the mention of having Dan's son travel through time was a heavy hint that his dad was also a traveller. The story arc of his dad meeting Elliot in the past was just too much of a coincidence. I think Dan's father may have been the ultimate show story arc and perhaps his dad would have had the answers in the end<p> Regardless of what was not revealed about the show in this interview, you have to admit had they finished the first season as described it would have been awesome.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Falls, give us a comic book!!!!!!!!!

    by snowpuff

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Offtopic : The Heroes season 2 alternate ending

    by V'Shael

    was pretty good. Better than the actual ending they went with. <p> I still think the show has pissed off too many fans to recover in Season 3 though. I know I dropped it from my viewing list, as did most of the people I know.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    cool

    by palooka_boy

    but I still wish he would tell us EXACTLY who/what was causing Dan's journeys. its not like hed be spoiling anything at this point.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Better left unsaid

    by agentf1

    I say it's better left unsaid. I liked knowing how season 1 may have worked out as described but feel that at least two full seasons may have been necessary before we were _ready_ to know the truth :)<p> Besides, maybe Kevin Falls doesn't want to reveal too much, who knows, maybe the show could be rebooted or at least tweaked to follow a different traveller and maybe they meet up with Dan Vasser at some point.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Heroes

    by optimus122

    I got to give it one more chance..season 1 was awesome , 2 was mediocre at best. Maybe 3 will return to form.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    God I miss this show.

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    What a horrible way to treat such a talented piece of art. Sad. Oh well, at least Knight Rider is coming!!! FU NBC. You're going to screw up Thursday Night too. You just wait and see.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST

    V'Shael Thanks for the John Doe Information

    by Xiphos_2

    Thank you for taking the time to answer my question about John Doe. I appreciate it.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Hell!

    by skydemon

    Bionic Woman is out on DVD, so where are the Journeyman DVD's At LEAST give us that!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Sucked more than a Dyson vacuum cleaner

    by theoristABC

    This show was so fucking terrible. It was obviously made for idiot pre-teens. It basically sucked more than a Dyson vacuum cleaner! arg.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    theoristABC's mom sucks better than a Dyson vacuum cleaner

    by Mr_X

    yarrr, she's bag free! that alternative heroes ending was worse than the already forgetten real ending. eroes is one of the reasons journeyman fell through cuuase heroes was so fucking awful, everyone turned off theit tv's fuck heroes! fuck nbc!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    switch makes me a LESBIAN

    by shogunshin

    i never grasped this concept, that if a guy ALL OF A SUDDEN changed into a chick, he would dig on MEN? are you KIDDING ME??? so if this character all of a sudden starts dating men, its a craptastic idea. you are born liking WOMEN or MEN. it does not matter what sex you are. you like one or the other. (save for the bisexuals, of course!) so i hope this guy realizes that, and makes the main character a lesbian. because he has to ask HIMSELF this question. if you were changed into a chick, would you suck dick? of course not!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    shogunshin exactamundo

    by Mr_X

    my thoughts exactly. the character wouldnt change, he's just go after hot lesbians. everyones happy!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    GOTILK!! Where's gotilk?!?

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    You can't have a Journeyman TB without gotilk! <p> It. <p> Just. <p> Doesn't. <p> Happen! <p> Someboby send up a Bat-signal or somthing. <p> I know! Send up a Moon-signal!!

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Fuck I could go for a ketchup sammich...

    by nalapou

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Fuck I could go for a ketchup sammich...

    by nalapou

    damn shame. Easily the best new network show last year... I'll watch Lalola just to support you Kevin Falls, even thoguh it sounds retarded compared to the great Journeyman.

  • Aug. 10, 2008, 11:53 p.m. CST

    shogunshin

    by Akira Cowabunga

    So if you were turned into a woman, you say you wouldn't want to suck dick. Would you also not allow a man to penetrate you with his dick? Not even once, to see what it felt like? The women I've known have sure seemed to like it, so it must feel pretty good...

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Time Tunnel as a primary source?

    by lynxpro

    Get the fuck out. Anyone who chooses to reference *Time Tunnel* as a definitive source on time travel tv series makes Kevin Federline look like a Nobel Prize winning scientist. *Doctor Who* owns *Time Tunnel*, biotches.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Thanks Herc!!

    by gotilk

    Thanks for the followup, it means a lot. It would have been great to see him take the show in a few of those directions. But no DVD? Wow.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 2:36 a.m. CST

    L.H.!!

    by gotilk

    Dude. The memories.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4 a.m. CST

    Mr_X,,,like i said, ill watch when i get bored

    by bacci40

    right now the olympics is all over the internets...and i can watch sports that i never see, like fencing, badmitton, handball and wrestling...ill try to deal with the accent, but im not promising anything

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Woot, Got!

    by VegasRon

    sup yo

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST

    FUCK YOU NBC!

    by HoboCode

    FUCK YOU UP YOUR STUPID ASSES! HARD! NO LUBE! FUCK. YOU. DRY. AT LEAST GIVE US DVD'S YOU FUCKING WHORES!!!<P> P.S. FUCK YOU.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    sigh...such a good show

    by just pillow talk

    # of shows I watch now: 0<p>And Heroes will probably suck again this year.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Bacci40, part of the reason Journeyman failed to hold

    by jim

    Heroes' audience: 10pm is their bedtime. The kids watch Heroes, then go to bed and mom & dad switch over to CSI Miami because it is what everyone else is watching.

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    That's 8 months of therapy fucked then....

    by dj_bollocks

    Bastards !

  • Aug. 11, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Ahh, gotilk still lives.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    How's it hanging?

  • Aug. 12, 2008, 9:47 a.m. CST

    The truth at last!

    by afraidoffans

    Although I loved Journeyman and was gutted the show was cancelled this interview proves the writers only think of one season at a time. I suppose the vicious nature of the studio axe stops writers putting too much effort in the overall story but c'mon, at least have an idea! A truly great story is one where the author starts at the end and works backwards. It's blatantly obvious with some TV shows and movies they have a brilliant idea for a beginning and then just kind of limp along to the end. Journeyman seemed better than me but lets face it, based on this interview if it had not have been cancelled, by the time we got to season 3 at the most it would have become obvious they had no idea where the story was going.

  • Aug. 13, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST

    "Journeyman and Studio60 cancelled without a chance to mature!"

    by minderbinder

    In the case of S60, Sorkin is a seasoned TV pro and should have had his shit together better. That show was also ungodly expensive to produce - in that kind of situation Sorkin needed to have it solid from the get go, not flounder around for the entire first season in search of direction.

  • Aug. 19, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Terminator Sara Connor

    by Holycarp

    It is so sad that JM is gone! At least I have the Sara Connor Chronicles to look forwar to. I don't see this show getting the kind of attention it deserves either. The writing is phenominal! I have convinced a couple friends of mine to finally watch it. They were afraid it wouldn't live up to the movies. Now they see they were wrong.

  • Feb. 11, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    ????

    by orcus

  • Feb. 11, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Orcus would like to probe the dark side of the Moon

    by orcus

  • July 29, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Just watched all 13 for the 1st time...

    by Michael_Ceras_Hidden_Powers

    Fuck NBC! First they leave Heroes open-ended and then they rob us of Journeyman. Fuck TV period!

  • July 30, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Huzzah! another convert!

    by orcus