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Published on Friday, August 8, 2008 - 3:21am |
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Didgeridoo thinks Bryan Singer's VALKYRIE is pretty incredible!!!
Hey folks, Harry here - about a week ago a fella called me up, industry type - not directly related to the film - told me, "I'm gonna burn in hell. I just saw VALKYRIE, I'm a Jew and I cried for a nazi, I'm going to burn in Hell!" The fella went on and on about the film - about Ottman's great score - about how it was incredibly thrilling - and he got me excited. It sounded like they were getting ready for a test screening, so I've been expecting some feedback - and this fella seems very enthused about the film. Drawing comparisons to SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. Based on the script and the cast and the talent involved - expect this movie to kick a lot of ass. Here ya go...
Hiya Harry and gang-
I haven't sent in a review in a while (the last review I sent into you guys was Spiderman 3), because I moved and other reasons. I'm living in Henderson, NV these days, and got into a test screening tonight, without knowing what movie it was until we were sitting in our seats. That surprise element was cool, because the movie itself was something I didn't expect. The screening was at the Green Valley 10, where I've seen TDK three times now, and me and my friends tried to guess what we would be seeing, but none of us guessed right. Then the NRG guy told us we’d be seeing… VALKYRIE!
Yeah, I've read a lot of bad shit about this movie, delays and whatnot, and we figured we were in for a trainwreck. The verdict? The truth is it’s pretty great. At over two hours, it's a little on the long side, but compelling and serious as fuck. I don't know if I've ever seen a movie about a 'righteous coup' like this- if I could compare it to anything it would be Saving Private Ryan- about a small group of people trying to something impossible.
Other than the length, it's got some problems. Here are the negatives right off the bat- I was confused in the beginning about who was who and how they'd play into the plot- but it comes together pretty quickly. It was also confusing if they were Nazis or not, but at some point in the movie, you find out they're in the German Army Reserves, which is not the same as Hitler's SS army but still had to swear an oath to the Fuhrer. Once I realized that, it made a lot more sense. Another part that’s questionable is the first scene where you meet Tom Cruise's character in North Africa, which almost seems a little out of place. Also, I read somewhere that they didn’t try for German accents, and I actually think it worked out better that way. If you’re gonna be purist about it, they’d be speaking German, not with German accents so why bother.
So, onto the review, there are spoilers aplenty since the events are true and right there on Wiki. But I stopped short of the final act.
Valkyrie is about a group of Germans who are secretly trying to overthrow Hitler and the Third Reich. The movie starts with Kenneth Branagh and Bill Nighy, whose attempt to blow up Hitler’s plane fails and almost gets them caught. You then find out they're part of a group that hate what Hitler's doing to their country. Their problem is they're plans aren't bold or organized enough, and Hitler's grip on Germany is absolute.
Then it's off to North Africa, where we meet Stauffenberg, Tom Cruise's character, who has doubts about the war- a dangerous thing to have under Hitler. He’s almost killed when his unit is strafed by Allied planes, and loses a hand (CGI'd out for the rest of the movie), two fingers on his other hand, and an eye (hence the eye-patch) in the attack. He gets a glass eye that he only wears sometimes, but carries around with him like a talisman. Finally coming home, and seeing his kids playing war-games to Flight of the Valkyries (a nice touch), he realizes that the disease of Hitler's propaganda has even infected his children and this is the final straw that makes him decide to join the resistance.
At their secret meeting, we meet a Terence Stamp as a German general who resigned in protest to Hitler. Stauffenberg is more strategic and aggressive than the rest of them. He wants to assassinate Hitler at his bunker, the Wolf's Lair, and take over Berlin immediately and declare martial law as a pretext for arresting all the Nazis. He brings an explosives expert onto the team to show them how to rig plastique explosives that will fill the entire bunker with fire. It's a bold operation, but these guys are just making it up as they go. None of them know if they have any chance- they're on edge the whole time, but pretending everything’s cool. Tom Cruise and Bill Nighy especially show the mixed emotions of fear and determination of these guys.
Stauffenberg's plan is to change Hitler's Operation Valkyrie- the order that keeps the Nazi government in place in the event of an Allied invasion. In Stauffenberg's version, once Hitler is dead, the German Reserves take control of Berlin district by district. But to change the Valkyrie order, he has to get Hitler’s signature, and to get to Hitler, he has to go through Tom Wilkinson, a slightly slimy general who will join whatever side is winning. He doesn't join the conspiracy but doesn't blow the whistle either. He's hedging his bets in case the coup happens. Meanwhile, Kenneth Branagh gets transferred to the front, and Stauffenberg gets promoted, giving him his chance to get into Hitler's inner circle. Now he's pretty much the leader of resistance.
I think one of the best scenes in the movie is when Stauffenberg goes to meet the Fuhrer at his mansion in the mountains. This is an inside look from a different view- there's something so grotesque about the casual afternoon among Himmler, Goering, and the other Nazi elite. The stakes are real, and everyone will die if their plan is found out. Even though Hitler is a cameo in the movie, his presence hangs over these characters and this film like a shroud.
Everything about this section is first rate (the location was like Castle Wolfenstein but real), and the actor playing Hitler is just madness incarnate. Tom Cruise is subtle and very real in these scenes, bringing a lot of complexity. Hitler sees Stauffenberg as a war hero, willing to sacrifice himself for the Reich, and signs the new Operation Valkyrie order without reading it.
Then, when Hitler calls a meeting that Stauffenberg is to attend, the plot is in motion. The Wolf’s Lair is heavily fortified, in the middle of a dense forest, with checkpoints and Nazis in trenches all along the way. Stauffenberg gets into the room with the other Reich officers, places the loaded briefcase under the table- but misses his chance because the others back in Berlin wouldn’t give the order since Himmler wasn’t there. Stauffenberg is, needless to say, pissed.
Meanwhile, Bill Nighy has done his part and mustered the Reserves as if Berlin is being attacked. When it’s called off, all the commanding officers are disgusted that it was just a drill. These scenes are very well done, with little scenes about some of the figures, down to the telegraph operators, who just transmit commands at first, but at some point will have to pick a side.
Stauffenberg finally gets another chance at Hitler when another meeting is called, and is determined that no one fuck it up this time. But when he gets to the Wolf’s Lair, he finds out that the meeting has been moved out of the bunker to another building with open windows- which will prevent the vacuum effect that would wipe out everyone in the room. Everything else goes like clockwork. He gets the briefcase in place right under Hitlers nose, gets called out of the room, and is out of there. As he looks back and sees the explosion, he believes he has done it. There’s no turning back- this is the beginning of the end.
Back in Berlin, Stauffenberg sends a message to Germany that Hitler is dead and martial law is in effect, then orders the Reserves to start rounding up SS officers. It's a huge, dangerous, epic operation- the fight for Berlin. The final act of the movie is fucking intense, but I’m leaving out the very end.
It’s a pretty incredible story, and even though the concentration camps aren't a part of the movie, you think about it in almost every scene- the knowledge of what these monsters did.
That's Valkyrie. Everyone clapped, and we were all pretty floored. I think Bryan Singer did a bang-up job making an intense, well-written and acted flick. One other thing I wanted to mention was the accurate use of German Luftwaffe aircraft of the period, which was very cool. I'll probably see it again once it comes out, and hopefully it will be trimmed down a little, but it’s worth seeing.
If you can use this, call me Didgeridoo.
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Reader Talkback
i like this story by chipps | Aug 8th, 2008 03:30:17 AM | well by rockness | Aug 8th, 2008 03:33:01 AM | Glad to hear it by barnaby jones | Aug 8th, 2008 03:37:44 AM | me thinks this is a plant by Leafy McPlantsalot | Aug 8th, 2008 03:39:51 AM | does this have gay undertones? by Dr. Wordsmith | Aug 8th, 2008 03:40:17 AM | Tom Cruise... by goatfever2007 | Aug 8th, 2008 03:41:05 AM | When does this come out again? by Jed Black | Aug 8th, 2008 03:47:06 AM | This should be an intersting
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film yet by Kizeesh | Aug 8th, 2008 04:30:56 AM | More overly intense by emeraldboy | Aug 8th, 2008 04:31:35 AM | ganymede3010 by Xiphos_2 | Aug 8th, 2008 04:35:15 AM | Hiiiighwaaay to the Nazi zone! by TheJake | Aug 8th, 2008 04:41:29 AM | The skeptic in me by Volstaff | Aug 8th, 2008 04:42:48 AM | Jed Black... by depalma25 | Aug 8th, 2008 04:43:36 AM | I'm willing to suspend my
skepticism and believe this
will be go by newc0253 | Aug 8th, 2008 04:44:20 AM | Ganymede3010... by depalma25 | Aug 8th, 2008 04:50:50 AM | besides by chipps | Aug 8th, 2008 04:52:00 AM | by AllieJamison | Aug 8th, 2008 04:52:28 AM | zapano by thinboyslim. | Aug 8th, 2008 04:52:30 AM | Can I pour water on this
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they delayed it for months by Gus Van Rant | Aug 8th, 2008 05:27:14 AM | Thinking About Superman
Returns by TroutMaskReplicant | Aug 8th, 2008 05:35:25 AM | Reads like a Plant by Nabster | Aug 8th, 2008 05:35:41 AM | Kizeesh, you didn't see
Superman Returns? by quantize | Aug 8th, 2008 05:39:21 AM | Ralph Fiennes by TroutMaskReplicant | Aug 8th, 2008 05:39:54 AM | In response to depalma25 by schnide | Aug 8th, 2008 05:41:05 AM | Did they use accents in The
Pianist? by TheNorthlander | Aug 8th, 2008 05:41:10 AM | "I'm a Jew and I cried for a
Nazi" by DerLanghaarige | Aug 8th, 2008 05:42:27 AM | Also by TheNorthlander | Aug 8th, 2008 05:43:08 AM | Make Way for Man of Steel by Garzo | Aug 8th, 2008 05:45:42 AM | Gus by HEADGEEK | Aug 8th, 2008 05:49:09 AM | Omg spoilers by Alientoast | Aug 8th, 2008 05:49:31 AM | Not giving Tom Crusie any of
my moolah. by Doctor Zoidberg | Aug 8th, 2008 05:59:06 AM | Stauffenberg was not a Nazi by Garzo | Aug 8th, 2008 06:00:50 AM | Re: HEADGEAK by Gus Van Rant | Aug 8th, 2008 06:05:55 AM | Valkyrie likely premiering in
Berlin by Garzo | Aug 8th, 2008 06:06:09 AM | How the hell did I mis-spell
GEEK??!! by Gus Van Rant | Aug 8th, 2008 06:07:25 AM | What the fuck by Lost Jarv | Aug 8th, 2008 06:09:07 AM | German accents aren't
necessary for this film!!! by Wiseguy7777 | Aug 8th, 2008 06:13:06 AM | Accents... by ZaphodBeeblerox | Aug 8th, 2008 06:17:16 AM | Accents Are Ridiculous by Garzo | Aug 8th, 2008 06:25:52 AM | besides by chipps | Aug 8th, 2008 06:32:11 AM | Wiseguy777 by schnide | Aug 8th, 2008 06:35:50 AM | by schnide... by depalma25 | Aug 8th, 2008 06:37:41 AM | Euro Cruise by Garzo | Aug 8th, 2008 06:45:03 AM | Hamlet is Dutch... by depalma25 | Aug 8th, 2008 06:49:58 AM | ganymede3010 by just pillow talk | Aug 8th, 2008 06:51:41 AM | I meant.. "is from Denmark" by depalma25 | Aug 8th, 2008 06:52:11 AM | Only Cruise can make a Nazi
uniform look gay by I Dunno | Aug 8th, 2008 06:56:06 AM | I'd rather eat my own shit by Drunken Rage | Aug 8th, 2008 06:57:29 AM | the accents by Cedar_Room | Aug 8th, 2008 07:01:08 AM | Cruises American Accent Will
Grate For Five Minutes by TroutMaskReplicant | Aug 8th, 2008 07:02:15 AM | Final word, depalma25 by schnide | Aug 8th, 2008 07:02:44 AM | Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI | Aug 8th, 2008 07:05:00 AM | Holy Shit, Is Anyone Watching
The Olympics? by TroutMaskReplicant | Aug 8th, 2008 07:24:11 AM | how by chipps | Aug 8th, 2008 07:27:36 AM | Headgeek, it's going to do
TERRIBLE box office by Creamery Butter | Aug 8th, 2008 07:35:27 AM | Fortunately Hitler was
overthrown by the
scientologists. by V'Shael | Aug 8th, 2008 07:38:30 AM | Troutmask by Abominable Snowcone | Aug 8th, 2008 07:45:39 AM | People hate Cruise by Garbageman33 | Aug 8th, 2008 07:52:15 AM | Abominable Snowcone by TroutMaskReplicant | Aug 8th, 2008 07:58:54 AM | I thought the concept of
"hell" wasn't acknowledged by SpencerTrilby | Aug 8th, 2008 08:01:51 AM | Worst Jew Ever by Silent Mark | Aug 8th, 2008 08:09:44 AM | One-dimensional conspirators? by Lorquaine | Aug 8th, 2008 08:12:40 AM | SOLD! I'll watch this! Cruise
is back on form! by Mr_X | Aug 8th, 2008 08:25:36 AM | "I hate Illinois Nazis" by Stuntcock Mike | Aug 8th, 2008 08:34:54 AM | No word on whether the eye
patch is ridiculous? by Sith Witch | Aug 8th, 2008 08:41:33 AM | If the film is great, I'll
forgive and forget the lack of
accent by mefrog | Aug 8th, 2008 08:41:45 AM | Sith Witch - the eye patch is
part of Stauffenberg by mefrog | Aug 8th, 2008 08:43:27 AM | Scientologists the new
persecuted minority? by Mister C | Aug 8th, 2008 08:45:51 AM | Can't wait. by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 08:46:49 AM | I don't think people hate Tom
Cruise... by viola123 | Aug 8th, 2008 08:53:44 AM | again, i'll bring up by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet | Aug 8th, 2008 08:56:34 AM | and seriously, guys. by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet | Aug 8th, 2008 09:01:51 AM | It's not a religion, it's a
cult by SpencerTrilby | Aug 8th, 2008 09:04:03 AM | Call me a massive cynic if you
must....... by Hint_of_Smegma | Aug 8th, 2008 09:07:04 AM | Right on Gatsby by SpencerTrilby | Aug 8th, 2008 09:07:57 AM | Don't care if it's crusies
best performance ever, by logicalnoise01 | Aug 8th, 2008 09:20:50 AM | mefrog by Sith Witch | Aug 8th, 2008 09:26:49 AM | SpencerTrilby by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 09:35:32 AM | Heil Zenu !!! by mr dark | Aug 8th, 2008 09:36:39 AM | Of course the movie's good. by Knuckleduster | Aug 8th, 2008 09:37:57 AM | Lost Jarv, Ganymede IS
black... by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 09:39:12 AM | I hope so by mefrog | Aug 8th, 2008 09:41:34 AM | THIS REEKS OF DAMAGE CONTROL by jagga | Aug 8th, 2008 09:41:39 AM | This guy is green as a by JuanSanchez | Aug 8th, 2008 09:43:13 AM | Ve are here to view ze
TAPESTRIES! by Nasty In The Pasty | Aug 8th, 2008 10:03:43 AM | Zis is a Cassle, und ve haff
many tapestries by Hint_of_Smegma | Aug 8th, 2008 10:08:46 AM | The accents thing by atalcot | Aug 8th, 2008 10:09:25 AM | THIS REEKS OF DAMAGE CONTROL? by TroutMaskReplicant | Aug 8th, 2008 10:10:09 AM | In fact, I've decided. I AM
going to use my enormous
fortune by Hint_of_Smegma | Aug 8th, 2008 10:14:21 AM | Ganymede wants reperations for
all the crap... by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 10:19:13 AM | Sorry, guys. I guess I woke up
on the wrong side of the bed
this by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 10:22:50 AM | Not bothering with accents is
half acting! by FILMFUNK | Aug 8th, 2008 10:32:21 AM | Singer And Cruise, Huh? by LaserPants | Aug 8th, 2008 10:32:33 AM | he wrecked Superman by DrPain | Aug 8th, 2008 10:38:10 AM | I Can't Believe... by Rebeck2 | Aug 8th, 2008 10:41:35 AM | One difference anchorite. by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 10:45:40 AM | Tom Cruise In The Cockpit? Or
Cock Pit? by LaserPants | Aug 8th, 2008 10:46:16 AM | Ganymede by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 10:47:24 AM | Hobocode, who controls the
wealth of African nations? by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 10:49:31 AM | Rebeck, people were pissed at
Memoirs Of A Geisha... by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 10:53:01 AM | African nations don't have any
wealth by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 10:57:20 AM | I'm seeing this by spectrebeeyatch | Aug 8th, 2008 10:58:39 AM | anchorite by LaserPants | Aug 8th, 2008 11:00:28 AM | Anchorite..... by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 11:02:44 AM | Hey Harry, is that why 'The
Alamo' was delayed too? by Heckles | Aug 8th, 2008 11:03:10 AM | I Agree, Spectre by Rebeck2 | Aug 8th, 2008 11:03:17 AM | Hobocode I never said anyone
was my enemy? by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 11:05:53 AM | Accents, schmaccents... by OBSD | Aug 8th, 2008 11:06:05 AM | ganymede by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 11:06:44 AM | No, Driving Miss Daisy doesn't
count! by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 11:08:21 AM | ganymede by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 11:09:12 AM | ganymede and anchorite by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 11:10:59 AM | HoboLoad by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 11:12:36 AM | CockSpaz by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 11:14:37 AM | Ganymeade by Rebeck2 | Aug 8th, 2008 11:16:26 AM | HoboChoad by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 11:18:13 AM | Xenuphobe? by bobjustbob | Aug 8th, 2008 11:18:56 AM | Ganymeade's just... by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 11:23:31 AM | CockSpaz by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 11:38:15 AM | "capitalists." by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 11:40:35 AM | I knew that would push your
button. by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 11:41:40 AM | Amistad. Nominated for 4
Oscars... by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 11:53:13 AM | HoboBlown by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 11:53:47 AM | By the way, D.W. Griffith was
NOT a Jew... by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 11:55:18 AM | What a friggin' news day! The
media doesn't know what to do! by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 12:00:17 PM | Jews ain't got hell by rtpout | Aug 8th, 2008 12:02:34 PM | If this movie is so great by ArcadianDS | Aug 8th, 2008 12:03:40 PM | DocPazuzu by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 12:19:05 PM | dude you're a hobo by ArcadianDS | Aug 8th, 2008 12:21:11 PM | Why do you have that user ID
jew hunter? by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 12:21:42 PM | It must be time to recondition
America with all these Jew
films by joeelliott | Aug 8th, 2008 12:22:34 PM | Is it the hobo's code to have
a computer w/ internet? by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 12:27:42 PM | Recondition how, exactly? by anchorite | Aug 8th, 2008 12:29:38 PM | Allo Allo by mulberry | Aug 8th, 2008 12:37:47 PM | Rebeck2, that number was used
to make a point by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 12:38:18 PM | Still boycotting Cruise, by DeCypher44 | Aug 8th, 2008 12:38:41 PM | Eat shit, HoboLoad. by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 12:40:04 PM | Anchorite..... by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 12:43:14 PM | "most Americans tell blacks" by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 12:45:28 PM | Oh I forget, any constructive
critisism of Jews=Racist! by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 12:47:05 PM | I Love When Bigots Get
Offended By Bigotry by LaserPants | Aug 8th, 2008 12:47:08 PM | Ganymede by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 12:48:57 PM | Just to shut you the fuck up
Doc... by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 12:54:41 PM | DocPaz by LaserPants | Aug 8th, 2008 12:55:44 PM | Ganymede by LaserPants | Aug 8th, 2008 12:59:11 PM | Ganymede by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 12:59:27 PM | Here's another poll for you
Doc by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 12:59:33 PM | Fuck You Jew Hunter by LaserPants | Aug 8th, 2008 12:59:43 PM | LaserPants by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 01:01:57 PM | JEW HUNTER by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION | Aug 8th, 2008 01:02:02 PM | Ganymede, You Should Use
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character in 'Inglorious
Bastards' by CarmillaVonDoom | Aug 8th, 2008 01:15:50 PM | LaserPants by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 01:16:17 PM | The holocaust and slavery by CarmillaVonDoom | Aug 8th, 2008 01:18:06 PM | And... by Banzai Rootskibango | Aug 8th, 2008 01:19:55 PM | History... by JOHNCONNORS_FORESKIN_CAMEO | Aug 8th, 2008 01:21:16 PM | Banzai by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 01:26:27 PM | Fuck by Jed Black | Aug 8th, 2008 01:30:51 PM | But The Civil War Wasn't
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LaserPants: by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 02:22:34 PM | DocPazuzu... by Banzai Rootskibango | Aug 8th, 2008 02:24:03 PM | LaserPants by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 02:25:18 PM | The civil war by toadkillerdog | Aug 8th, 2008 02:26:14 PM | Also, LaserPants: by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 02:27:17 PM | Huh? by HoboCode | Aug 8th, 2008 02:28:35 PM | To clarify: by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 02:34:15 PM | Banzai Rootskibango by toadkillerdog | Aug 8th, 2008 02:35:14 PM | Banzai, I'd like to... by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 02:39:11 PM | Toadkillerdog... by Banzai Rootskibango | Aug 8th, 2008 02:42:23 PM | Banzai Rootskibango by toadkillerdog | Aug 8th, 2008 02:50:30 PM | ToadKillerDog... by Banzai Rootskibango | Aug 8th, 2008 02:53:59 PM | Banzai Rootskibango by toadkillerdog | Aug 8th, 2008 03:05:45 PM | What is decidedly
un-plantlike... by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 03:12:00 PM | HEY YOU GUYSSS!!! by Dr. Wordsmith | Aug 8th, 2008 03:19:46 PM | I heard they gave Hitler a
super-powered son... by Rupee88 | Aug 8th, 2008 03:19:56 PM | "American Civil War was not
about slavery" by ArcadianDS | Aug 8th, 2008 03:20:30 PM | fail by Dr. Wordsmith | Aug 8th, 2008 03:20:40 PM | Banzai by skimn | Aug 8th, 2008 03:22:52 PM | Skimn... by Banzai Rootskibango | Aug 8th, 2008 03:27:52 PM | Where's Nuclear Man when you
need him? by Liquid Meddle | Aug 8th, 2008 03:45:22 PM | Businessweek praised this
movie too by doubledown44 | Aug 8th, 2008 04:52:00 PM | boy by chipps | Aug 8th, 2008 05:34:03 PM | ArcadianDS by chipps | Aug 8th, 2008 05:39:12 PM | by Harold-Sherbort | Aug 8th, 2008 06:00:24 PM | Matters by Cobbio | Aug 8th, 2008 06:29:16 PM | Oh, and... by Cobbio | Aug 8th, 2008 06:39:56 PM | ANOTHER HOLOCAUST MOVIE?!?! by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 06:50:56 PM | doubledown44, Businessweek did
not praise the movie by Creamery Butter | Aug 8th, 2008 06:59:40 PM | MORE CHINESE DIED DURING THE
CULTURAL REVOLUTION by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 07:17:57 PM | Cobbio by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 07:22:42 PM | THOSE CHINESE ARE PUTTING ON A
GREAT SHOW ... by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 07:23:42 PM | Actually, BSB... by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 07:30:18 PM | Well, the Chinese... by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 07:32:18 PM | HEY DOC by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 07:37:30 PM | Been drinking, BSB? by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 07:39:24 PM | He wasn't Jewish. by DocPazuzu | Aug 8th, 2008 07:47:52 PM | Perhaps you should ' just get
over 9/11 ' by PTSDPete | Aug 8th, 2008 07:50:05 PM | DOCPAZ by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 07:50:24 PM | This is what Bryan Singer does
best! by ThaSithMaster | Aug 8th, 2008 07:52:50 PM | YES, HE DID VISIT PALESTINE by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 07:55:46 PM | THE REPARATIONS ISSUE NEEDS TO
BE BURIED FOREVER by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:07:26 PM | BESIDES, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
WAS A MANNER OF REPARATIONS by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:09:36 PM | Let's See The Double -
Standards : by PTSDPete | Aug 8th, 2008 08:11:30 PM | Re: DocPaz by Cobbio | Aug 8th, 2008 08:12:29 PM | TOO SOON!!! by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:15:35 PM | AS WACKY AC CRUISE IS by Broseph | Aug 8th, 2008 08:21:27 PM | No statements of DENIAL is
what's holding them blacks
back by PTSDPete | Aug 8th, 2008 08:21:55 PM | No statements of DENIAL is
what's holding them blacks
back by PTSDPete | Aug 8th, 2008 08:21:58 PM | I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MANY
CHINESE PEOPLE by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:22:32 PM | THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON
SLAVERY HAS EXPIRED!!!!! by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:23:54 PM | Cobbio by Xiphos_2 | Aug 8th, 2008 08:24:34 PM | WE GOT BIGGER FISH TO DRY THAN
DWELLING ON SLAVERY AND
HOLOCAUST by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:25:44 PM | THAT'S "FISH TO FRY", NOT DRY by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:26:22 PM | Now When Will Somebody Get Rid
of G.W.Bush? by PTSDPete | Aug 8th, 2008 08:26:49 PM | THIS MOVIE IS TOTALLY
UNNCESSARY by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:28:25 PM | GEORGE W. BUSH IS AN
ANTICHRIST by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:29:03 PM | Field Marshall Erwin Rommel? by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLo
rd | Aug 8th, 2008 08:30:06 PM | DID YOU SEE BUSH HAVING A
LAUGH WITH PUTIN AT THE
OLYMPICS by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 08:31:19 PM | Doc, Laser said nothing about
reparations. by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 08:35:05 PM | TheJake: Talkback hero of the
day by bravogolfhotel | Aug 8th, 2008 08:37:00 PM | There are concentration camps
in North Korea RIGHT NOW by joeelliott | Aug 8th, 2008 09:03:56 PM | GANYMEDE by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 09:12:13 PM | BSB I agree about the NAU! by ganymede3010 | Aug 8th, 2008 09:20:20 PM | GANY - IF ONLY! by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 09:34:57 PM | Gus Van Rant by medicinaluser | Aug 8th, 2008 10:02:34 PM | I'VE GOT THE NEED ... FOR SIEG by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 10:16:01 PM | Re: Xiphos by Cobbio | Aug 8th, 2008 10:23:14 PM | Everywhere I go by The Brains | Aug 8th, 2008 10:48:14 PM | THAT WAS SOME GREAT OPENING
CEREMONY by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 11:01:14 PM | Doc - Civil War - abolishing
slavery or preserving the
union? by Mohammed Was A Butt-Fucking
Pedophile III | Aug 8th, 2008 11:05:34 PM | by The Brains | Aug 8th, 2008 11:06:12 PM | THAT'S RIGHT - HE DID AN IRISH
BROGUE by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 11:08:39 PM | IF INSTEAD OF PICKING ON DANNY
GLOVERS DICKBLOOD by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 11:10:54 PM | I would love to fuck Bryan
Singer by Geekgasm | Aug 8th, 2008 11:11:03 PM | HOW ABOUT FUCKING BRYAN SINGER
WHILE HE FUCKING by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 11:14:36 PM | LINCOLN LIED AND CRACKERS DIED by BringingSexyBack | Aug 8th, 2008 11:17:17 PM | BSB by The Brains | Aug 8th, 2008 11:46:54 PM | Cobbio by Xiphos_2 | Aug 9th, 2008 01:37:00 AM | BSB by Xiphos_2 | Aug 9th, 2008 01:42:12 AM | FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLo
rd by chipps | Aug 9th, 2008 03:12:27 AM | My son's music teacher is a
real, honest-to goodness by half vader | Aug 9th, 2008 03:14:44 AM | Bottom line, Cobbio: by DocPazuzu | Aug 9th, 2008 03:44:50 AM | Mohammed by DocPazuzu | Aug 9th, 2008 03:51:21 AM | Superman Returns by Kizeesh | Aug 9th, 2008 04:12:52 AM | DocPaz by Cobbio | Aug 9th, 2008 08:06:06 AM | XIPHOS by BringingSexyBack | Aug 9th, 2008 09:30:05 AM | Bernie Mac is dead!? by ironic_name | Aug 9th, 2008 09:39:52 AM | This sucks that Bernie is
gone. by Grammaton Cleric Binks | Aug 9th, 2008 10:14:25 AM | On to Valkyrie: look at the
cast... by Grammaton Cleric Binks | Aug 9th, 2008 10:17:10 AM | Where's the obit on Bernie? by mefrog | Aug 9th, 2008 10:19:54 AM | This year has been too much... by mefrog | Aug 9th, 2008 10:20:38 AM | RIP Bernie Mac and Valkyrie by The_Fredo | Aug 9th, 2008 12:34:45 PM | BSB by Xiphos_2 | Aug 9th, 2008 02:07:21 PM | bernie mac by Zozma | Aug 9th, 2008 02:11:12 PM | Really want to give it the
benefit of the doubt but by Clarice Starling | Aug 9th, 2008 03:30:09 PM | You Got To Love How... by dogstar69 | Aug 9th, 2008 05:26:48 PM | Whatever by ArmySmithaz | Aug 10th, 2008 03:07:12 AM |
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