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Moriarty’s BUZZKILL! Where Dumb Rumors Go To Die! BATMAN 3! Britney And Quentin! PLASTIC MAN!

Hey, everyone. “Moriarty” here. You know, a good 2/3 of all stupid Internet movie rumors that gain any traction whatsoever could be stopped cold in their tracks if people would just think. I know it's Hollywood, but logic does still apply. I’m not going to promise BUZZKILL as a regular column, but when the situation presents itself, maybe we should trot this one out from time to time. First, let’s talk about BATMAN 3. Or better yet, let’s not. For about a year. Since that’s the earliest you’ll hear anything that could remotely be called news about characters or casting or the script or anything. A year from now. Not next week. Not next month. It will be a while. Christopher Nolan’s next film will not be about Batman. I think you can pretty much count on that. And until Christopher Nolan officially says, “I’m not making another Batman film,” no one else is going to. He is absolutely, 100% going to be given first refusal on the next film, and right now, that’s it. That’s all the news there is. I repeat... so we’re clear... Christopher Nolan has not decided what to do next. And he is not signed to make another Batman film yet. So that means no script. No story. No anything. No creative choices have been made about what to do with the next film. Right now, Warner Bros. is busy making party hats out of $1000 bills, counting all the silly, silly, silly DARK KNIGHT money they’re making, and that’s it. When someone tells you Johnny Depp is “signed” to play The Riddler, feel free to laugh in their face. When someone tells you Philip Seymour Hoffman is “signed” to play The Penguin, ask them if it’s just as true this time as it was when it was a DARK KNIGHT rumor two years ago. Then laugh in their face. When someone tells you anything about Catwoman or recasting The Joker or Clayface or Man-Bat or Killer Croc or ANYTHING... just brush it off. Because it’s not true. It’s just not. No matter how much you want it to be. No matter how many times it gets reprinted for no reason. No matter how many photoshopped “costume tests” start floating around. It’s just not happening. Yet. On the other hand, you can brush off those FASTER, PUSSYCAT, KILL! KILL! rumors completely, because they’re not true at all. That’s not a case of not yet. That's a case of never was and never will be. That’s a case of “If you printed that story as true, you are insane.” Quentin Tarantino is making a movie right now. It’s called INGLORIOUS BASTARDS. So when someone tells you that he cast Tera Patrick or Britney Spears in his new remake of FPKK, they are (A) lying (B) mistakenly listening to someone who is lying or (C) just inclined to repeat any nonsense they are told. And it would seem so obvious to me that I can’t believe it when I see it printed over and over and over. Is it that slow a news day? I know… it’s on our front page, too. WHY?! It doesn’t even make sense as a rumor. It would be like if people printed a rumor tomorrow that James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver were on location in Utah this week shooting scenes for ALIEN 5, and all of a sudden, everyone just believed ALIEN 5 was shooting. NO! IT’S NOT! He’s working on AVATAR... remember? QT = IB, not FPKK. OK? The PLASTIC MAN rumors that got started a few weeks ago are stranger, but no less credible. I remember getting the same e-mail that Devin Faraci at CHUD must have gotten, an e-mail saying that Joel Silver had just appeared on a German radio show and laid out all the details for the new Wachowski Bros. film, PLASTIC MAN. Uhhhh... no. I didn’t run it because I didn’t believe it. But Devin ran it a day or two later, and so I decided to dig a little. I asked around at Warner and at Silver Pictures, and they confirmed what seemed evident to me from the initial story. Joel Silver didn’t do the German radio show. He didn’t give that interview. He didn’t spill the details on PLASTIC MAN because... wait for it... nothing’s happening with PLASTIC MAN. Yes, there’s that old Wachowskis draft still bopping around the internet. I’m sure you can read it if you really want to. But the Wachowskis haven’t decided what to do next. They haven’t cast Keanu Reeves in the lead role, and they certainly haven’t told Joel Silver to tell the press, “After SPEED RACER, we’ve decided to only work with Keanu for the rest of our lives.” I mean, really. Does that even sound like the way that sort of information would be released? These days, studio announcements are carefully orchestrated, timed for global impact. Stills, posters, major casting announcements... these are things that people calculate carefully. Joel Silver’s not going to go on some morning show in Germany and just say, “Oh, yeah, by the way...” I’ve run plenty of preposterous rumors myself over the years, sometimes because I was bored and thought they were entertaining, sometimes because they felt like they might have some truth to them, and sometimes just because I wanted to see what the response was as a hypothetical. Sometimes, it turns out to be as ridiculous as “Christopher Walken is Darth Bane,” and sometimes, it turns out to be as interesting as “John Connor is a Terminator.” With these three rumors, can we just put a bullet in them and call them finished, though? Because they don’t deserve any further life, and I certainly hope people don’t start quoting them as fact. That happens sometimes, and it’s amazing how much something can become set in stone, even if it’s total fiction.

Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles

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  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:29 a.m. CST

    And to make the Britney-rumor worse:

    by DerLanghaarige

    It'S an old rumor that has been declined before Tarantino and Rodriguez announced Grindhouse! So I got no idea why people suddenly came up with this AGAIN!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:30 a.m. CST

    so now we know

    by chipps

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:32 a.m. CST

    John Connor is a Terminator

    by kwisatzhaderach

    That is not interesting. Too bad about the FPKK rumours - that would be hilarious to see. Mind you, after Death Proof, perhaps not.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Hamilton in T4

    by PeaJay18

    Thanks for pointing out the ,er, more obvious falsehoods, but how about some clarification on the rumour about Linda Hamilton appearing in flashbacks for McG? You guys have got an in with him, right?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Is a career in trouble when a FPKK rumour/lie is believable?

    by Dolmes

    Oh glory be. Steve Coogan tour 2008 oh yes. The Clown........coming soon.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Pretty self-evident...

    by Russkov

    ... even though many people on different forums seems to be going ape-shit about this "news". How about you people do a little something called "think" with your "brains" instead. So, when are we getting your thoughts on The Happening, Mori?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST

    I'd pay to see Titney strip onscreen.

    by Karl Childers

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:35 a.m. CST

    The lone voice of reason at AICN

    by V'Shael

    Thank god you're still here Moriarty.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:36 a.m. CST

    If only those Indy 5 rumors were untrue...

    by Karl Childers

    The only good thing that could happen to that franchise is Lucas for not being involved.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Amanda Plummer cast as Catwoman. WB confirms. Variety link...

    by SmarkJobber

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Alien 5

    by Mastidon

    WOOHO!!!! When is it out?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:41 a.m. CST

    Amanda Peet would've been more believeable.

    by Karl Childers

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST

    "Respectable" news outlets print it, that's why.

    by theBigE

    I saw the Britney - QT story online yesterday, and it wasn't on some fanboy or tabloid website. Now I'm a sensible guy, I know QT's got Glorious Bastards in the works right now, but it makes you think - couldn't QT be multi-tasking right now? Isn't it possible to be working on 2 films at once? Appreciate the update, Mori, but you can avoid the condescending tone in your story next time, can't you?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:45 a.m. CST


    by el-guappo

    Maybe Britney could show us some real breakthrough acting talent. She's not a girl. Not yet a woman. More like that sleazy truck stop type waitress that takes the "food" out to the truckers.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:51 a.m. CST

    What about the "Ghostbusters 3" rumor with the Apatow crew?

    by Mike_D

    You must have read that piece.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:51 a.m. CST


    by el-guappo

    Actually, the more I think about it, She would be perfect for FPKK! Sign her up! She certainly can't do any harm to her career at this point.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST


    by tailgunner111

    what I'd like to know is who starts these rumours (I know that's impossible, but still). Who wakes up and decides over the morning crapper: right, how about putting Britney in a QT film, hmmm....

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Bale is NOT a Terminator - according to CHUD

    by bluelou_boyle

    Devin says fan reaction (I'm guessing your article and the talkback) changed the T4 ending, Moriarty. any info?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:05 a.m. CST

    I love these rumors

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    I like to wave at them as they pass by.....

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Yeah and Magnum was nearly Indy!


    While watching The Dark Knight for the second time after it blew me away and left me gasping the first time round I realised for a comic book movie it's not much fun!<P>I know it's called DARK Knight and I always bang on about how comic book movies should be more real and less goofy and when I came out of it on opening night i thought Nolan had made the perfect Batman movie but on repeat viewing it's actually like being Kidnapped and fucking tortured by a lunatic for 2 and a half hours!<P>Can't really complain but maybee Hellboy 2 (i'm UK)might be easier on my old ticker!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:06 a.m. CST

    dave and travis, travis and frank...

    by saintaugust

    three young punks who like to prank. Got a van and some cameras too, causing trouble 'cause there's nothing to do. No Buzzkill love?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:12 a.m. CST

    WARNING... SPOILERS... Connor not a Terminator... BUT...

    by Droid

    A little birdy has leaked the Salvation storyline... Connor has one night stand with Terminator (presumably female)... Termi gets pregnant... Spits out little T-800 "Arnie" Connor... Arnie grows up resentful of pops... Volunteers for THE assignment... Grandad Reese and Grandson Arnie duke it out on the streets of '84... The series comes full circle...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Why would Spears be a career killer?

    by EyeofPolyphemus

    she did a fine job on how i Met Your Mother and QT has a history of taking has been icons and making good movies with them. If he ever does remake FPKK, Spears would not be a laughable choice, although I imagine Rose McGowan would be better suited.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:16 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv

    Jesus, how is Britney Trailerpark Spears an Icon?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Hahaha Moriarty kicks all the bitches asses!

    by Marxeffect

    Because he said so!!!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Hahaha Moriarty kicks all the bitches asses!

    by Marxeffect

    Because he said so!!!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:16 a.m. CST


    by Marxeffect


  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST

    I heard a rumor

    by tonagan

    they say you've got a broken heart.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Rose Mcgowan

    by el-guappo

    I've seen plenty of Rose's, shall we say, "petals".I think Britney would actually be good! I agree with EyeofPolyphemus about QT bringing back has beens. But I don't know if Brit has been out of sight long enough to be considered a has been yet.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:21 a.m. CST

    by el-guappo

    I heard a rumor - It's not a tumor

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:23 a.m. CST

    If I Were Nolan...

    by TroutMaskReplicant

    I'd find some crazy unfilmable story and ask Warner Bros for a 100 million dollar budget as part of the deal for directing the next Batman film. Because Batman 3 would have to be frighteningly shit for it not to make as much (or more) than The Dark Knight. Look what happened with X-Men 3 and Spiderman 3, the worst films of the series with the biggest box office returns.

  • <P>Can't wait to see it collecting dust next to "Notes from the Lab" and "Things I love"! <P>Actually, Mori, I jest in kindness. Thanks for the column.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:27 a.m. CST

    The title for Terminator 4 scares me

    by Abominable Snowcone

    because I don't want to see any "Salvation." I don't want any Redemption or Salvation or Resurrection or anything happy at all. Just Destruction, condemnation, and near-extinction

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:27 a.m. CST


    by Phimseto

    To properly finish my subject header, cruelly cut off right at the end.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:28 a.m. CST

    ...and "knowing" is half the battle.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Ah, if only...

    by Oomlot

    ...we could get some kind of control over the things people say. Oh wait, um, that came out wrong...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST


    by Leafy McPlantsalot

    that was just a rumor too, right? Right?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Thanks Moriarty

    by TommyShag

    Great column. You should do this more often, I'm sure there's enough BS out there to debunk on a weekly basis.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Joel Silver on German Radio?

    by morrik

    listen...there are no German radio-shows, where Joel Silver would appear to talk about anything important. I am German, I have been exposed to German radio for about 4 decades now. No such show. No sir. so the PLASTIC MAN rumour disqualified itself...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:39 a.m. CST

    I heard a rumour...

    by Marxeffect

    that Anjelina Jolie was caught sniffing coke out of Rosario Dawson's ass crack... I think it was a rumour anyway! Anyone else wake up wet this morning?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    moriarty = keeping the 'net safe for geeks

    by benizdead

    'nuff said

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST

    I'm disturbed by this article

    by chrth

    On the one hand, Drew is right to do this. On the other hand, AICN became the site we all know and love (or hate) because of ridiculous unsubstantiated rumors that were posted as fact.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Didn't QT

    by Series7

    Used to date Margret Cho and that big giant wildabeast real life version of Elmo who has a show on the Brava channel now? I mean Spears is close to that level of beast, give her about one more year then it would've made sense.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Amen Pondscum

    by wookie1972

    It's incredibly disingenuous for AICN to slam all these unfounded rumours when some of them (i.e. Plasticman) were first presented here as fact, not to mention "ARNOLD/SLY/BRUCE ARE GOING TO BE IN INGLORIOUS BASTARDS!!!" and all the other breathless bullshit we've read on this site.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Actuallly, it's not disengenuous, its downright hypocritical

    by wookie1972

    just like it's hypocritical to slam talkbackers for their sexism when homophobia is tolerated

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:54 a.m. CST

    I heard the news today, oh boy...

    by RenoNevada2000

    I like to think I have a pretty good BS detector, so I've already discounted most of what Mori talked about here. My blind spot seems to be DR WHO, though. I dismissed the rumors surrounding the last couple of season finales ("No way they'll do a big cyberman/dalek dustup in the streets of London" "Davros aint coming back, and they're certainly not going to trot out ALL of the past companions for some big bruhaha...").

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:55 a.m. CST

    I hope Nolan doesn't make a 3rd Batman.

    by Knuckleduster

    I adore Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, but I really hope that he moves on to other projects. A filmmaker shouldn't hang around the same subject for too long. Sooner or later disappointment is inevitable. Just look at Raimi and the Spidey movies. The bigger these movies get,the more a studio interferes. I don't want Nolan making a Spider-man 3 just because he's getting paid a ton of money. I don't want rabid fanboys calling him a hack the same way they did with Raimi. <p>I know that if anyone can make three great Batman movies in a row, it's Nolan. But I'd rather see him move on. I think he's done all he wanted to do in the Batman universe.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Oh You Should Use The Search Function For Fun...

    by TroutMaskReplicant

    Back in the old days, when AICN wasn't so well connected, all sorts of crazy rumours were printed. Fun to read in hindsight.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:07 a.m. CST


    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    I remember both of those things exactly as you describe them.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Isn't Margaret Cho gay? QT was a beard?

    by Uncle Stan

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by EyeofPolyphemus

    She is a icon because there wasn't a red blooded American guy he didn't want to hit her baby one more time a decade ago.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    AICN could do its part

    by Arteska

    by stopping running the ridiculous "Shia as Indiana Jones" stuff that throws the internet into a tizzy even when George clearly makes a joke about it. This is a good idea for a column though you should do it frequently.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    What about the rumor...

    by OBSD

    that there was going to be a musical number along with the original book ending on the DVD of Fight Club? Oh, wait. That one was you guys, wasn't it?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Personally, I hope there ISN'T a Batman 3

    by Sithdan

    Nothing can top The Dark Knight, and another sequel can only taint that film's legacy. So I prefer that series end now while it's on top. It's better to bow out now than to fade away, like the previous franchise did with Batman & Robin.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    erm. No

    by Lost Jarv

    You'll have to do better than that. A fucking plastic pop hit from over 10 years ago? She is not an icon.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    I heard Jim Carrey is the Riddler in this one

    by the_scream

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    I heard Michael K. Williams is going to play the first A.A. Mr.

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Because he's one cold blooded killer, with a warm heart underneath. Go get im, Omar!

  • Actually, she is an Icon to gay men. I haven't met a gay guy yet who wasn't completely in love with her, hence the "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE" guy. Most women have the "oh, her poor kids" attitude, and most straight guys think that she used to be hot, but not anymore, and her music was garbage no matter what year you're talking about. Does that make someone an icon? I don't know. Besides, she wouldn't be in a remake of Faster Pussycat for the simple reason that her bra size isn't double G.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:40 a.m. CST

    So this is AINT IT NO NEWS

    by theycallmemrglass

    But I do look forward to Batman 3: The Light Night

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST

    I remember that Walken rumor. I was looking forward to that

    by George Newman

    i was also about 13 or 14. <p>I had really cool imagery in my head; i had envisioned some medium close-up shot, Walken with his eyes glowing and with some force lightning flashing around. It was a dream. (doesn't really make sense i guess, no jedi's eyes have glowed before)

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Anthony Michael Hall is the Riddler

    by George Newman

    I remember when he was first cast, they were treating his role as a huge, significant secret. that he had some monumental scene with Freeman, like maybe even him killing Freeman. Man were we off.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    I can't remember if the Sith Witch was this site as well

    by chrth

    There's a fantastic Episode I article if someone can find it with a whole essay of untruths that Harry wholeheartedly endorsed. High comedy.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Anthony Michael Hall was in the Dark Knight?

    by chrth

    OH, was he the news reporter?<p> Also, was it just me, or was Matt McCoy in the crowd during Dent's "I'm the Batman" press conference?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Can't stand those sith eyes. Why didnt Dooku have them?

    by George Newman

    At first i just thought those were Darth Maul's natural eyes. but then they gave them to Anakin and were supposed to be representative of blah blah blah blah blah I quickly get exhausted from talking Star Wars prequels.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Sith Witch...

    by Phimseto

    ...well there was some truth to that. The Sith Witch was one of the early concepts for the apprentice before eventually morphing into Darth Maul. Hell, the concept art is in the "Art of Episode I" if I remember correctly.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST

    oooh! oooh!

    by OBSD

    Anthony Michael Hall as The Creeper! You heard it here first.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Sean Young as Catwoman Confirmed!!!!

    by Dick Bahls

    And my personal vote is for Rose My-goo-hand as Poison Ivy so's I can have more wanking material!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:50 a.m. CST

    I usually have to play Rumor-crusher for my friends

    by George Newman

    The rumors and 'trailers' and 'official posters' they would gleam off of fan forums and crap were just head-slappingly stupid. AICN and Superherohype generally keep me grounded.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:51 a.m. CST

    M-O-O-N. That spells irony.

    by Tom Cullen

    I honestly can't think of a single site that has posted more bullshit rumours over the years than AICN, and now you're standing on some sort of pedestal tut-tutting all those silly sites and their rumour-monging. The kettle just called, he said you're black too motherfucker...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:53 a.m. CST

    John Edward

    by enderandrew

    SciFi's John Edward has been signed on to help channel the ghost of Heath Ledger for Batman 3. The film will be titled "Massive Fucking Payday Returns". Haley Joel Osmet is 100% confirmed as Robin. He said the thing that sealed the deal was the contract stipulation that specifies his cod piece will be bigger than the one Chris O'Donnell used. Bryan Singer is leaving behind both X-Men and Supes to direct. Bryan Singer already had the Robin codpiece in his personal collection at home, and seemed the natural fit for the franchise. And Batman is going to be bitten by a radioactive bat and develop organic Batarangs. Michael Schumaker is being brought on as a creative consultant, with the explicit directive that they never do anything he suggests, unless it involves a random, gratuitous shot of Alicia Silverstone's ass.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST

    And I hope Mori's easier on his kids...

    by tonagan

    "There is NO Santa Claus. There is NO Tooth Fairy. There is NO Easter Bunny. And I flushed your goldfish down the toilet."

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    I have the opposite role with one of my friends, George

    by OBSD

    I usually have to go through the bowels of the inter-tubes to prove something IS true to one of my friends, and he still doesn't believe me. You don't know the fights I had with him about BSG's final season being spread out over two years. All the proof in the world couldn't convince him until he saw the last episode.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Way to write a valentine to yourself, Moriarty

    by Dashing Roger

    Seriously, this is a vanity piece. Is your real intent to clear up some misconceptions? No, you (as you admitted) trade in this kind of rumormill shit all the time. No, if you're going to be honet with yourself, you wrote this to remind us all (again) how in-the-know you are and to talk down to use like children (these rumors over here are fine, but these rumors about Batman 3, FPKK and Platic Man are not, so stop spreading them). <br> <br> I mean really. Who gives a shit if people talk about Batman 3 now? Do you really care? Don't start thinking you're any better than any of us - we and you, we're exactly the same. So take your self-righteous indignation about these "dumb rumors" and cram it up your fat ass.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Sean Young as Catwoman

    by Sithdan

    Anyone know where (or if) pictures can found of Young dressed as Catwoman when trying to convince Warner Bros. suits to cast her for the role in Batman Returns?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    You forgot a few things.

    by enderandrew

    Nolan said when he agreed to do Dark Knight, he pitched a concept for a two-movie storyline. The principle returning actors are all signed, and Nolan wouldn't have pitched a two-movie storyline if he didn't already know what he wanted to do largely with the next one. No one has heard or suggested that he has a next project lined up that he is burning to do first (like the Prestige) so I don't know that Nolan will do another movie first or not. Nolan's next film could very well be Batman 3.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Guy Pearce to play Joker

    by vitruvius

    Just a good guess on my part...Since we're talking rumors.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Terminator 4 Spoiler

    by redfist

    Edward Furlong (13ish) will fall out of a wormhole in the 3rd act and 30ish John Connor will beat him bloody. And his buddy is a terminator.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Mori prolly did this piece cuz his email was getting flooded

    by George Newman

    ...was getting flooded with this nonsense incessantly and he just got tired of it. I would too.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    So Mori...

    by NiceGuyEddie19

    Can I please get a link to the Batman 3: Rise of the Riddler script?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    I heard about the two movie storyline as well...

    by OBSD

    Where did i hear that...hmmm...let me think...Could it have been...oh, wait. I know! I heard it right here! Right at Aint It Cool News!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST

    ironic coming from a rumor site

    by ZO

    laying it on thick mori huh?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:06 a.m. CST

    D.Vader and Sith Eyes

    by enderandrew

    Please name one evil act that Darth Maul ever did. Did he murder people for information? Did he use Force Lightning or any Dark Side powers? He was raised to believe that he was a member of a religion that had been hunted to extinction by Evil Jedi. In the end of the movie he stands in a doorway, with pilots, Padme, etc. in the way of him and the Jedi. He lets them walk away unscathed, and seeks nothing more than what he believes is the just killing of Jedi. Vader was an evil fuck, and he never developed the Sith Eyes when the mask comes off in RotJ.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Rumor of the day

    by enderandrew

    AICN will receive a massive make over with modern forums, a clean layout, and pleasing color scheme.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Batman the dark knight has now made so much money that

    by emeraldboy

    they can keep this franchise going for a very long time. The possibilities are endless.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST

    If anyone is playing "The Riddler"...

    by Anna Valerious should be David Tennant. Firstly, he says he's interested. Secondly, watch "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" to see him play a complete psycho. However, he needs someone to take over the role of Doctor Who...

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    No more Star Wars essays

    by George Newman

    we gotta let it go, guys. Participating geeks will ultimately develop heart troubles from investing so much. I already have an irregular palpitation because of my "they should have had a 40 year-old grown man as Anakin" convictions.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST

    No Batman 3...

    by Karl Childers

    Make The Dark Knight Returns instead and recast everyone.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Even if Ledger was still alive, I'd say no Joker

    by chrth

    Does anyone honestly think Ledger and Nolan could pull that off twice? Either the script would feel repetitive, or the impact of the character would be less ... or something just not good as TDK.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST


    by technotranceporter

    Was this article even warranted? I don't think so..because were not retarded. Remeber that the next time you feel it will benefit us to debunk rumors on a RUMOR based site. Neat.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    In defense of the Tarantino rumor...

    by DanielKurland

    He's stated several times he's interested in making a Faster Pussycat remake. Whether Britney Spears will be in it or not is irrelevant, but I wouldn't say he's flat out not making the movie. If you look at Deathproof, particularly the ending, you can clearly see a Russ Meyer influence. I hope he makes it. I love the original, and there is tons to do with it visually.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Let's not beat around the bush here. Just what exactly are you trying to say?!<P>Spit it out, man!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Fun false rumors

    by RenoNevada2000

    You know I got tossed off the forums when they first started by Doc because I started a lighthearted thread about all the false rumors that had been reported over the years, asking folks to name their favorite. He was a douchebag about it too.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    That's a dirty lie. He felches the coke from out of Roth's ass.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Creeping Fear

    by INWOsuxRED

    Balance of the Force, Grando, Millenium Falcon in the prequels, Leo as Ani, Sith Witch, Darth Bane, Christopher Walken, Robert Carlyle as a Sith, Kenneth Branagh as Obi Wan....just off the top of my head.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    What ever happend to that

    by INWOsuxRED

    photo of an Optimus Prime toy that was posted as TF concept art?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    so you post stuff you know is bullshit...

    by vicious_bastard

    for a laugh, Mori? Thanks a lot. Way to wipe AICN's shit-encrusted ringpiece with the very hands that feed it. And in such a condescending way too. Top work!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Hey! I heard AICN said Britney Spears

    by Snookeroo

    is going to be Plastic Man! Is that true?? What about the Plastic Man/Batman cross-over by Quentin Tarantino?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Let Zack Snyder make Dark Knight Returns

    by zooch

    Nothing will top The Dark Knight or Heath Ledger's Joker. Time to move on.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    How can Mori hate on speculation?

    by Joker Gordon Levitt

    SPECULATION IS FUN. FANBOY EXPECTATION AND DISCUSSION FORUMS KEEP DIRECTORS LIKE FAVS AND SNYDER EAGER TO MAKE THE FANS HAPPY. FANS HAPPY = TICKET SALES = STUDIOS HAPPY!<br><br> My speculation site is<br><br><br><br>You want to speculate and criticize some ideas? visit me. Because according to Mori, he's tired of seeing that here.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST


    by ArcadianDS

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:34 a.m. CST

    BATMAN 3

    by IAmLegolas

    I thought there was a definite story arc planned for 2 & 3, am I wrong? And what about Aaron Eckhart signed to a two-picture deal, is that also false?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Returns

    by IAmLegolas

    if you mean the Frank Miller graphic novel, that should be made by Roger Rodriguez with Mickey Rourke as Batman and Jack Nicholson as The Joker. The chick from JUNO plays Robin.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    goyer specifically said he has a theme/story

    by jason baum

    i dont believe rumors, only quotes. and joker gordon levitt is right: mori's career is based off speculation, rumor, spoilers etc. hippo-crite!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    John Connor

    by CherryValance

    If that's still the ending, you spoiled it again. That's kinda funny. This also reminds me of the time Bruce Willis wasn't Bruce Willis, but then turned out to be Bruce Willis. No offense Moriarty, but your debunking skills aren't that great. A rumor isn't false just because it sounds stupid to you. That was how you accidently posted the Terminator spoiler in the first place. Because you thought it was soooooo stupid that it couldn't possibly be true. For all we know Nolan promised the Riddler to Depp at Parisian fish fry this morning. Sure Nolan probably isn't doing anything about Batman 3 right now, but just because that's probably the case doesn't mean it is. It's not killing anyone to read rumors and speculation that later turns out to be false. If you're going to confirm information then fine, but saying rumors aren't true because you don't think they are is just as presumptuous as posting unsubstantiated rumors as fact.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Nolan 3rd movie in 2011, then Dark Knight Returns

    by performingmonkey

    Wait 10 years or more then come back and do The Dark Knight Returns with Bale as a middle-aged Bruce Wayne. Eckhart and Ledger back also.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Batman 3 titled Batman Ends!

    by greenstyle92

    Batman still on the run from the police. Gordon has his hands full having to pretend to be hunting him while finally trying to root out the corruption in his office. Joker copy cats like Riddler are running amuck. The theme of the movie is about Gotham finally taking the hint and learning to fight corruption and demand justice in their own right, and not waiting for a Batman or Harvey Dent to hand it to him. Public pressure and the willingness of people frightened for decades to come forward and name names is what breaks the back of the mob. Riddler highers bane, a "glorified mexican wrestler" who happens to be 400lbs of pure muscle mass, (steroids are hinted at,) to kill Batman. Batman defeats Bane and Riddler, but is crippled with a severe, (but not permanent,) lower back injury. Batman's identity revealed to the public. The movie ends with the people hailing him as almost a messiah figure, (for showing them the way, not to be afraid) while the courts are trying to nail him. He and alfred flee the country, and on a remote tropical island, he begins a long recovery. The series seems to be over, and Nolan will joke for the next decade that he and bale will return in 2025 to adapt "The Dark Knight Returns."

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Zombie Ledger

    by enderandrew

    Zombie Ledger is all booked up with other projects right now.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Ya know Mori...

    by Juggernaut125

    <p>You're my personal favorite reviewer on this site, because your views on the movies that are out are usually very close to my own opinions. So, I figure you are a voice of reason that I can trust.</p> <p>But when you say shit like "Because they don’t deserve any further life, and I certainly hope people don’t start quoting them as fact." it comes across as incredibly self-important. What gives you the right to say which rumours deserve to live or die? Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    and tonagan

    by Juggernaut125

    What the hell do you MEAN there is no Santa Claus?? Is too! Is TOO! IS TOOOOO!!!!!


  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Terminator: Salvation

    by enderandrew

    Do you know who has confirmed for T4?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST


    by Joker Gordon Levitt

    i like the idea. I don't know about the public learning batmans identity, but the rest is solid. Make me want to include Bane on my speculation site.<br><br>Speculate away @ <br> <br><br>don't hate, participate. Mori, you still my nga.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    What an ass!

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    You're a cool reviewer, Moriarty. But you've come across as a right foul git. I don't think I needed 18 fucking sentences telling me there is no news on Batman 3. If you're pissy because of excessive emails, then get out of the biz and/or get a new email address. <p></p> I am starting to understand the accusations of you being self-important and a bit on the dickish side.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Latino Review has the scoop!!!

    by Dick Bahls

    "The new villian in Batman 3 will be Grando Calrissian. In the film Grando(played by the guy who played Boom-Boom Washington on Welcome Back Kotter) enlists the help of Lucas' daughter from MMA. Lucas' daughter proceeds to beat the living piss out of Batman. Grando then has a Colt 45 and cheats on her. She then beats the piss out of him. She then travels to Miami, Fl and beats the piss out of Hulk Hogan & his whole family, winning the WWF championship in the process, brother. The end". Sounds much better than the prequels & Crystal Skullphuck.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    by Joker Gordon Levitt

    my bad, wrong address. Speculate Away! Don't be spurned by Mori's anti-rumor rant! Rumor mills keep millions of Americans awake at work surfing the interwebbing!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Gibson set to return for Lethal Weapon 5

    by Jabroni

    Spread that one baby!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    didn't they have a 5?

    by Joker Gordon Levitt

    It was Riggs and Murtaugh vs Mexicans this time around. George Lopez played Escobar's son Pepito. Rosie Perez starred as "Rican"

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Lethal Weapon

    by enderandrew

    He said he was "too old for this shit".

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    "Porno Rican"

    by Joker Gordon Levitt

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Actually, my ex is cast as catwoman..

    by The cunning linguist

    cause she's a cheetah.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST

    What about extended cut?

    by emilione

    Mori, what about especulating about an extended cut? Are the rumors about a three-hour cut true?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    What about 'fielded' or 'test' rumors?

    by Darth Macchio

    Like those rumors about Rob Zombie directing Conan? The 'rumor of the rumor' was that there was no "trade" talks on this and that the Zombie camp fielded it falsely to see the reaction. If the reaction was good then they could maybe hit the production with fan backing...thankfully the reaction was bad as we don't need a god damn hillbilly Conan played by Bill Mosely fighting Thulsa Doom as played by Zombie's wife (she'd have to be there somewhere no matter what as he is incapable, like Rodriguez used to be, of not putting his girl in anything he does).<p>Some rumors are indeed unlikely given various industry and individual circumstances and some might be off a strategy.<p>Personally...rumors tend to fall into "spoiler" territory for me so I usually ignore them if I'm really psyched to see the end product.<p>That said, rumor or not, Hoffman would be perfect as Penguin! (altho I don't think Penguin is remotely perfect, much less fitting, for Nolan's Batman, but if anyone could do it, the Nolan's could!).

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    I don't care if the rumors are false... still fun to speculate

    by andrew coleman

    I read somewhere else that everyone was signed for three. And Bale saying he's done after three. Also there is something about the ending of The Dark Knight that just hints at the next film. Dent might not be dead, Batman on the run... Three years from now will have the third film.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    You're right Mori, but your reasoning is off.

    by supertoyslast

    There are many reasons not to believe FPKK rumours, but the fact that Tarantino is working on Inglorious Bastards right now is not one of them. Filmmakers often work on several projects at once - at different stages of development. Spielberg usually has more than one film on the go at any one time and some films are often cast ridiculously early. To say that no reports about a filmmaker's next film are true until they've finished their current one is ridiculous, since even press releases are often made in this kind of timeframe.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    I like this column.

    by AlfredPMcLovely

    I liked this column for what it had to say and how it was written. I found it both interesting and amusing. I hope you keep putting these out.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Juggernaut125: That post was win

    by chrth

    'I wish these rumors hadn't come to me'

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Walken as a Sith

    by Project424

    Dude, I told my cousin that and he still gives me shit on it to this day. You started that one, Mori? Well... good one!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST


    by Smeg Shmalad

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    ben foster

    by jazzgalaxy

    anyone else think ben foster would make an awesome riddler? after alpha dog and 3:10 to yuma, i think that guy is scary as all get out.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    I heard a rumor that Fear Itself Windigo episode was good

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    This site posts a lot of lies.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Drew, you know better about the way things work...

    by TheRealRatigan

    ...even if forgetting what Nolan and Goyer and Bale have already told us. WhinyNegativeBitch and enderandrew have it right:just because 'Moriarty' doesn't have any sources who know what Nolan and Goyer's master plan is for the third story, Nolan, Goyer the Producers and the studio all know, right now, as we speak what that plan is, or was; of course Heath Ledger being gone can and will change that direction, but the other unknown is simply the timeframe of when. So, we might still know nothing a year from now. There's no reason to expect that we will. But just because we don't know doesn't mean there's nothing TO know. Nothing is locked in place until there is a script, a title and a start date, but too much track's behind

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Drew, you know better about the way things work...

    by TheRealRatigan

    ...even if forgetting what Nolan and Goyer and Bale have already told us. WhinyNegativeBitch and enderandrew have it right:just because 'Moriarty' doesn't have any sources who know what Nolan and Goyer's master plan is for the third story, Nolan, Goyer the Producers and the studio all know, right now, as we speak what that plan is, or was; of course Heath Ledger being gone can and will change that direction, but the other unknown is simply the timeframe of when. So, we might still know nothing a year from now. There's no reason to expect that we will. But just because we don't know doesn't mean there's nothing TO know. Nothing is locked in place until there is a script, a title and a start date, but too much track's behind

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Post concluded:

    by TheRealRatigan

    ...THE DARK KNIGHT in these films to change course now. If Joker has too much role yet to play in the third act then there will be a choice to make there, but only so much will change to affect the destination here.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    People who are picking on other rumors...

    by Executor

    Remember, there are always going to be rumors, and some will turn out to not be true. (Like if someone is considered for casting and then turns out not to get it, or their PR machine tries to pre-hype them before-the-fact).<p>However, what Mori is doing is pointing out the rumors that everyone should know are completely, blatantly, 100% false and the absurdity of how they even gained traction. And rightly so. Seriously, if I saw one more Angelina Jolie for Catwoman / Johnny Depp as the Riddler article I was going to scream. Good job, Mori, and I hope to see more of the same from time to time.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Prepared to laugh in my friends' faces.

    by halberd

    Kinda tired of hearing "They won't be doing a third one" or "Pirates of the Caribbean 4, bitch, get ready". Well, the latter I'm not so sure about but if I had a dollar for every time someone told me news about a third Batman... well I think I'd have 4 or 5 bucks by now. Fact is, I was ill-prepared for such 'news', but next time I won't be. - GSantos

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Yeah Alien 5's gonna rock!!!

    by Fixthe Fernback

    I'm so psyched: "...James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver were on location in Utah this week shooting scenes for ALIEN 5.." Freekin Awesome! I can't wait for this. <P>Stop the press!! World's gotta know about this scoop!1

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    RealRatigan, WhinyNegative...YOU don't know better

    by Executor

    Actually, Nolan's comments in most articles on the development of Dark Knight point to the fact that they didn't have a plan for it while filming Batman Begins (other than introducing the Joker in the final scene.) <p>Maybe Nolan has some ideas locked in his head, but if a studio tried to tell the Nolans or Goyer to work out a franchise outline for free before they started working on the Dark Knight, they would have told the studio to go fuck themselves.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Can't wait to see McWeeny look like an idiot

    by fiester

    When all these rumors he purports to dispell turn out to be true.<p> Buzzkill is a good moniker for a pompus twit like him though. He ought to dump Moriarty and go with that. "Buzzkill" McWeeny has a nice ring to it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    I agree its way too early for Batman 3 news....

    by TheWaqman

    Hell, Nolan was denying that he was working on The Dark Knight until around a year before its release. BUT Depp as the Riddler would be pretty cool. He's more talented an actor than Bale at least. He definitely couldn't follow up the Joker, but still he could pull a great performance out of it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST

    And by IG he means IB

    by jackietheblade

    unless QT is making Inglorious Goonies...where the crew outwit the Nazis but using Slick Shoes.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    You know WB is calling Nolan three times a day.

    by rev_skarekroe

    "So, Chris, let's talk Batman 3!"<p> "No. I'm going to make a movie about something else next."<p>"Right, great Chris, it'll be fantastic! But first how about a new Batman? If we cast John C. Reilly as the Penguin today we can get this picture in theaters by 2010!"<p>"I'm going to hang up now."<p>"BATMAN 3!! You don't know who you're fucking with, Nolan! We'll call Brett Ratner! You'll be finished!"

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    And by IB you probably mean.....

    by TheWaqman

    that shitty new Tarantino movie where the main characters spend 1 hour on just rambling on about some pop culture garbage. I loved Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, I only kind of liked Jackie Brown, Kill Bill was alright BUT I then noticed the formula was getting extremely stale when Death Proof came on. I don't want to hear a bunch of bitches talk about some shitty 70s B movie. And judging by Inglorious Bastards, Tarantino is still looking for that shitty B movie schlock feeling.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST


    by ldm882

    I would say try and be a little more smug and condescending, but I think that's impossible. I'm sure glad you're here to not just set us straight on false rumors, but to do in such a way that I read your article and all I can think of is Comic Book Guy.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST

    This is a reptilians attempt to cover the truth

    by Seth Brundle

    Moriarty KNOWS that stallone has been cast as The riddler in Batman 3!! he's trying to hide the truth!! this must be an attempt by the reptilians to hide the facts so they can continue their plans to world domination!!! in fact........i suspect Moriarty himself to be a reptilian!!! you heard it here first dudes!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Britney's an Icon Just Like Paris Hilton

    by elvirasbuttboy

    Britney can be considered an icon just as well as Paris Hilton is considered a CELEBRITY. In that new Paris for President clip that is getting all kinds of hits and was a featured story on CNN for like 5 minutes. Maybe Hilton is a better actress than we think when she can look straight into the camera and call herself a celebrity without busting a gut from trying to hold in the laughter. So yeah, Britney's an icon!?!?!?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    How about the rumor about how Mary-Kate...

    by Kid Z

    ...Olsen supplied the drugs that helped off Heath Ledger, then used her huge wealth and legions of lawyers to get out of even being questioned by the polic... oh... uh... waitaminute... Mary-Kate Olsen: The Courtney Love of 2008!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    At least Courtney could Si.....

    by Phategod2

    Oh nevermind.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:28 p.m. CST

    So they're making Alien 5??!!!??

    by slappy jones

    Holy shit - Cameron and weaver? thats awesome news.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    here's an old rumor for us old timers

    by Bloo

    that makes me actually think Riddler and/or Penguin will be used in Batman 3<P>After Batman and Robin, even though it was a disaster, even though WB blamed AICN for it's faliure<P>WB or someone was spreading the rumor that Batman 5 would feature Ras Ah Guhl and Scarecrow<P>what did we see in BB, Those 2<P>but do I belive it's Johnny Depp and/or PSH, no, why?<P>going back to that rumor from 10, 12 years ago...Howard Stern was "in talks" and "confirmed" to be Scarecrow<P>Sometimes I wonder if someones assistant, assistants sassistant isn't, PR rep, or something isn't trying to drum up some publicity for there client by leaking news like "Tera Patrick in FPKK" or "Britney in FPKK" to several movie news websites knowing of the...loose reporting standards these sites relay on, just like you know every movie studio is doing with plant reviews

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    The day Obama takes office his biopic will be out.

    by ZeroCorpse

    starring Don Cheadle and Angela Basset, with Julia Sweeney as Hillary Clinton, and Howard Stern as himself.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Then maybe this site shouldn't allow rumors

    by DrPain

    then get pissy about them and write up a lame article bitching about them.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Vader's eyes

    by ZeroCorpse

    When the mask came off in ROTJ he was redeemed already, thus his sith eyes were no longer sithy. <p> And if you follow EU stuff, you'll see that Darth Maul did some pretty unethical stuff, too. <p> But who says the Sith are 'evil' anyway? I see it as two sects of a religion who disagree on HOW to follow their religion. Sith vs. Jedi is like Protestant vs. Catholic (or vice versa). They both have the same god (The Force) but HOW they pray is the issue. <p> I think evil depends on your point of view. I don't think Palpatine thinks he's evil. I think he believes he's ordered, and that he must control the galaxy in order for it to be secure. I think he REALLY BELIEVES the Jedi are the ones to blame for all the chaos and disorder. They refuse to use the whole Force, shunning the dark side out of some monastic need to put themselves above others, and tying their version of the religion up in bureaucracy and red tape. <p> So when you say, "What evil things did he do?" I think you miss the point. Sith aren't evil, and their weird eyes don't come from doing evil-- The eyes change because they're using Force powers that Jedi refuse to use, and it's those Force abilities that cause the physical change.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:14 p.m. CST

    ALIEN 5!!!

    by wellgoodgravy

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    ALIEN 5!!!

    by wellgoodgravy

    You know what? Cameron and Weaver SHOULD do it, but ignore the fact that 3 and 4 were made altogether. Especially that last piece of shit Whedon wrote.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    "Hey guys I know everybody keeps posting shit

    by kungfuhustler84

    but don't believe any of it. You would have to be a fucking retard to do that! Common sense people! Use it! Don't you dare entertain those blasted rumors that my co-workers keep posting! Anyways, thanks for contributing to my success you gullible dumbshits."<p>Love,<p>Moriarty

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    I used to like you Moriarty

    by kungfuhustler84

    but lately you have had this air of self-worth that is just obnoxious. Sure there is an abundance of ignorant talkbackers, but talking down to your audience is never a good idea. Of course, there are a lot of us intelligent enough to know when a rumor is just that. You could at least place a little faith in our ability to separate fact from fiction.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:25 p.m. CST

    classic rumours

    by TurdontheRun

    charlton heston as yoda. remember that one? and 50% of the phantom menace footage that was shot being out of focus and unusable?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Not shocking, really...

    by MagnoliaSucked

    What is fairly obvious is that the frustration of dealing with this site in general and the commentary specifically is wearing Moriarty down. Moriarty offers the best reviews (generally) and, to be perfectly fair is actually above this site and most of the posters. That being said, one should have little sympathy for a person who willingly deals with the dregs of discourse only to later complain about those dealings. And yes, I know he was merely discussing ridiculous rumors, but we should see this for what it is: burnout.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:50 p.m. CST

    But where would Fleetwood Mac be without Rumours?

    by Larry Sellers

    This is just a few links below the Lethal Weapon 5 "story"? This reeks of frustration. Sometimes cooling off is best left to sexual release and/or murder instead of public ranting. It's just less pretentious.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    I heard a rumor...

    by ChocolateJesusMan

    That [SPOILER] Darth vader is Luke Skywalker's Father

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Artie Lange as The Riddler

    by darquelyte

    Who says The Riddler has to be stick thin?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 6:58 p.m. CST

    how about when goyer says him and nolan have a trilogy plotted?

    by alice 13

    goyer has polaroids?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:01 p.m. CST

    A movie of Dark Knight Returns will never happen...

    by wookie1972

    For one reason, and it seems pretty obvious to me. DC would never, EVER greenlight a movie where Batman comes within an inch of kicking the living shit out of Superman, who is shown as a stooge of the US government. I know they talked about Superman Vs. Batman, but that was always going to be with some lameass twist where it was really a villain controlling one or both of them.

  • Ohh that inglorious bastard!

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:09 p.m. CST

    C'mon Killing Younglings not evil

    by Phategod2

    Killing Yeunglings Ooops I mean YoungLings seems pretty F'n evil.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST


    by Executor

    "They did work out a three film plan as they were writing Begins." Ok, I'll bite...where's the link?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:52 p.m. CST

    by Bloo

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Experiment 626 re: The Riddler

    by Bloo

    how many seriel killers have we seen tease the police and media with clues/notes<P>Zodiac, BTK, and more then a few others I'm sure<P>if that's the case why couldn'tthey do something similar with the Riddler, I'm not saying make him a seriel killer, but more along the lines of an urban/cyber terrorist. Someone who is terroizing Gotham, stealing money from banks, playing with traffic lights, television reception, whiping out the police database, whiping out eletrcity causing blackouts etc, each crime a little bit...more and each time teasing the police/media with a clue<P>if you can cite HEAT (and I have) as an "influence" on TDK why not Zodiac for Bats 3. Show Gordan and Batman and have them obessing over this madman's clues, all the while Batman being protrayed as the badguy in the media, with the cops, in the public's mind<P>I'm not in any way suggestion Johnny Depp as the Riddler, I think I'd rather see David Tennent or even Christopher Eccelston in that role<P>if they insist on Penguin, ignore ignore ignore Burton's retcon of making him a deformed freak but make him more along the lines of an overweight mobster who HATES the Penguin moniker, make him a flat out evil bastard

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Buzzkill - sounds very Decepticon.

    by TheNorthlander

    will he be in the sequel?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    I've always thought that the model for the Riddler should be Hannibal Lecter... not the sneering campy cannibal aspect, but the games-playing intellectual.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST

    OBSD... you might be onto something.

    by wookie1972

    Hall's character has the wrong name, but other than that he closely resembles the Creeper's alter ego. OTOH, The Creeper would be quite a bit outside Nolan's "realistic" ideal.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 8:42 p.m. CST


    by Bloo

    that's a good thought as well, wither way can make The Riddler work in Nolan's Batman universe

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I wanna see

    by Juggernaut125

    TomBodet's Batman III.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:15 p.m. CST

    bloo, im a little concerned that Nolan may have pointed himself

    by wookie1972 insisting on complete realism. For me, the best model for Nolan's Gotham is not the Dark Knight Returns or even Year One but the Gotham Central series. I've argued with several people that the Penguin should be a pimp or at least the owner of a "gentleman's club." I like the idea that he hates the name Penguin (similar to Bugsy Siegal or Baby Face Nelson). The Riddler probably wouldn't work as a mobster, but Catwoman could work as just a cat burglar. Maybe Deadshot?

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:24 p.m. CST


    by wookie1972

    I meant "painted himself into a corner" but I spelt it wrong and it got cut off anyway.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Sorry but just because you say "stop rumors" doesnt mean they wi

    by BurgerKing

    You don't have that power. Ignorant people will continue to be ignorant to movies because it's not their interest the same as it is yours or mine or anyone on this site. The people standing in line while your waiting for your Pineapple Express tickets ro whatever who say "Johnny Depp is the Riddler" they just dont visit sites like these, so no, you can't stop rumors. <p> BTW my friend told me the Johnny Depp rumor, thought it was true. I know better than to try and correct people these days, I just say "oh" and let them believe whatever they want. When the movie rolls around all their mis-information will be turned around anyway

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Every rumour I can think of about Batman, from the top...

    by wookie1972

    Batman (1989) was originally going to star Bill Murray. Robin was going to be in it. Robin was going to be in Batman Returns, but he was going to be a black kid. The Joker didn't really die in the Burton Batman. Michelle Pfeiffer was going to play Catwoman in a spinoff movie. Robin Williams was going to play The Riddler. Mickey Dolenz was going to play The Riddler (no, really). Howard Stern was going to play Scarecrow... What's my point? My point is that it's just natural to speculate. Everybody needs to just chill.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 9:50 p.m. CST

    The truth about Star Wars 2, according to Starlog, circa 1980

    by wookie1972

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 10:55 p.m. CST

    YOUNGBLOOD! Comic Book Movie!

    by Brian

    Rob Liefeld is getting together with Paul WS Anderson to make a movie based upon his 90's comic, Youngblood. It will star Brad Pitt as Shaft, Haley Joel Osment as Bedrock, Michael Jai White as Chapel, and William Hurt as Diehard. As AWFUL as that movie would be. I'd watch THE SHIT out of it, LOL.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Lumet's NETWORK remake!!!

    by Brian

    Sydney Lumet's prophetic hit, Network, is going to be remade by the Apatow crew! Seth Rogan can do the William Holden role, Vince Vaughn could tackle Peter Finches part, Faye Dunaway's character can be played by Leslie Mann, Jonah Hill can be the evil Arthur Jenson! As blasphemous as that would be... I'd watch the THE SHIT out of it.

  • Aug. 7, 2008, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Not a rumor -- Batman 3 SPOILER!!

    by m00kiedood

    Okay, I have 5 minutes at this terminal and then Nolan will be back to pick up his fan mail. So I have to make this quick. <P> SPOILER <P> The big mind-frak is going to be that they actually filmed Batman 3 at the same time Batman 2 was filmed. No shit. <P> They have this in the can. Heath delivered an amazing second round, and the Penguin (Vern Troyer, in his most insane /intense role to date) is going to blow your mind as Oswald Cobblepot. <P> But first Nolan is secretly doing the Memento sequel, which is going to come out first. Crazy stuff there -- title is tentatively "Memento 2: I Remember Sammy Jenkis", and the kicker is that George Carlin managed to get this one wrapped in secret before he died, and he laid down the role of his life. <P> Anyway, this should tide the die hard Nolan fans over until his next big project following those, which is going to be ... are you ready????? ... Ghostbusters 3!!! Murray is signed, Ackroyd has signed a binding agreement that stipulates he has to be funny again, and apparently Moranis is going to appear for 5 minutes while the credits run before being killed by a vengeful Gozer the Gozarian (Chevy Chase, in what is set to be the comeback role of the decade), because apparently Rick's gotten all cocky and pretentious and stuff, but needs the money.<P> I have more, but I hear Nolan coming back and I need to alphabetize his fan mail quick ....

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Fuck Riddler! Victor Fries as old colleague of Lucious Fox...

    by KongMonkey

    Riddlers just a villain devised solely to exploit batman's "detective" side. Theres no story nor character there other than a poetic freak in a mask. Bring on Mr. Freeze. Introduce him as an old colleague of Fox, brought into Wayne Enterprises for a two way deal. He helps them develop cryogenic weapory for Batman, they finance his research in curing his cryogenically frozen terminally ill wife. Two-Face or whoever is villain this time round interrogates sniveling Reese dude from DK into revealing Wayne as Batman. Shit his fan at Wayne Enterprises, villain makes Fries suffer by breaking his wifes cryo tube and inflicting his own icy chemicals on him. Fueled by vengeance, Freeze constructs his cryosuit using a combination of his own technology and the same materials Fox uses to build Batmans suit. Goes after villain who killed his wife, only batman stands between the two. Least thats how I'd do it. Keep the Govenator and the cheezy one liners out of it, maybe cast BRUCE WILLIS as Freeze, you got yourself a movie.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Sith not evil?

    by INWOsuxRED

    They blew up an entire planet based on conflicting reports of possible rebel activity. Even if they didn't think themselves evil, killing the mostly innocent population of a planet to test a gun and have a slim chance of hitting some of your enemies is evil.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 12:58 a.m. CST


    by Citizen Sane

    Nolan would probably never even consider such a casting choice if he even ever cinsiders a Riddler villain. Every character Depp has ever created has been too laid-back. Besides, going with The Riddler right after The Joker runs the risk of being a bit redundant. Nolan will probably go in another direction next.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 1:21 a.m. CST

    It has to be Solomon Grundy

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    A zombie totally fits.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 2:53 a.m. CST

    KongMonkey - Willis as Freeze???

    by Uridium

    Not so sure. I always pictured Patrick Stewart as Mr Freeze.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 4:06 a.m. CST

    This just in - Bruce Wayne is a Terminator

    by OtisSpofford

    And only Plastic Man and Aquaman (Keanu Reeves and Jake Gyllenhal, respectively) can stop him and save the Pussycat's beach party.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    No Dark Knight Returns???

    by blackhole4140

    Anyone that thinks DKR isn't possible should take another look at the Watchmen trailer. The superhero genre is mature enough to take it on.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST


    by Inglorious Bastard

    Christopher Eccelston as the Riddler would be inspired, good call man.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Plastic Man Pilot

    by jjwspider

    Any remember the old Plastic Man pilot that was created for Cartoon Network a couple of years ago? Anyone know where it can be found or if it was any good?

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Mr Spork

    by enderandrew

    Aren't you forgetting the 1966 movie based on the TV show, or the 1943 Batman movie based off the serials? Batman 3 would actually be Batman 9. And then, it depends if you count the animated Batman movies like Mask of the Phantasm.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 10:42 a.m. CST

    No Black boxes yet

    by OBSD

    Maybe it's for the best. Funny, though... I'd almost like to see some. This has got the potential to really blow up and be one of those crazy fun talkback wars that happens every so often. Doesn't happen so much these days, though. This subject does have enough potential for a good war, but I guess it wasn't meant to be.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST


    by INWOsuxRED

    I love Chris, but I don't know if Nolan will be able to undo the stigma that is going to be attached to him after G.I. Joe plops into movie universe's toilet next Summer.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Funniest rumor ever...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...if it can be called that, was the fake episode 3 script review posted here. My sides were literally aching from laughter as I read it and the following talkback. <p> This is the infamous script with "Grando Carlissian" borrowing his dad's keys to the Falcon, the self-igniting Yoda calling Sidious a "Sith Witch" and fighting with black lightsabers. It was hysterical.

  • Aug. 8, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Mr Freeze is a terrible idea

    by the_scream

    There is no chance I character wearing a cryo-suit that keeps him cold would ever work unless we are dealing with pure fantasy. It doesn't matter how much rationale is given. It would be absurd. The best villain for Batman 3 is none. Make the film just about Batman.

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