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HOSTEL Mastermind Eli Roth To Play Sgt. Donowitz In Quentin Tarantino's INGLORIOUS BASTARDS!!
I am – Hercules!!
Eli Roth, writer-director of both "Hostel" movies, is the first man officially cast in Quentin Tarantino’s World War II epic "Inglorious Bastards." He’ll play New Yorker Donnie Donowitz, the member of Aldo Raine's crew who lives to punish frail Nazi bodies with his signature baseball bat.
Roth has acted for Tarantino before, having played an Austin bar patron in "Death Proof."
Find all of Variety’s story on the matter here.
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lets get Rob Zombie in it too!!! Then it could be called "Inglorious Hacks"!!!!!
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HUGE Tarantino fan, and this news scares me.
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as well, and he'll be off and running to having one of the worst acting supporting casts in modern film! Geez, this Roth kid can't direct his way out of a paper bag, gives in his first film a cameo that's just so awkwardly awful, but what the hell, let him eat up the screen in this, too.
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eli roth should not be involved in any movie in any way. :(
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NOT the first name that comes to mind when we've been hearing names like Stallone and Ahnold.
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As he himself has proved. This cast isn't sounding good at all. Brad Pitt as a hillbilly commando?...Now Billy Bob Thornton as a hillbilly commando I can see.
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Tarantino, RR, Roth, whoever the fuck else. Fuck you.
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He did appear briefly in DEATH WISH, playing a total douche-bag, which must have seemed very natural. I guess if this character is the same way, it should be fine...
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DEATH-PROOF, I meant...
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I use to dislike that whole Vince Vaughn, Stiller, Wilson thing, and Quentin and his cronies are gettin annoying as well. Quentin, this is not an equal partnership, my man.
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When I watched the Dirty Dozen recently I thought too many fucking actors - I mean why would anyone want to watch Lee Marvin, John Cassavetes, Richard Jaeckel, Charles Bronson, Telly Savalas etc when we could be watching a film that stars Robert Aldrich's friends?I burned the DVD literally and then smashed it with a hammer and then buried it in twenty seven locations around Britain because the film was ruined - dead to me.Thank Christ Tarantino feels the same way - I look forward to the casting of Robert Rodriguez as 'Mex Tex' Boone - who kills Nazi's with a razor sharp cowboy hat.
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Aug 05, 2008 11:54:17 PM CDT
Fuck, let's hear some real actors first... But, is it a big par
by iamnicksaicnsn
I mean, shit, really? I can understand for a bit part, or even a Mr Pink scale part, but if it's a big part I do not think this is a good idea.
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He doesn't make movies anymore - he just masturbates all over the screen like some idiot savant child. It's a fucking shame because deep down underneath the ego there's an awful lot of talent but Christ Almighty Quentin - stop making big budget home movies!!!
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a part where a character goes on one of those rants where they're trying to be profound, which is really just Tarantino trying to be profound, and then it just comes off as self-indulgent dialogue. Personally, I don't think Tarantino can go one movie without doing this. I'm laying down the challenge. Let's see if he takes it up. Doubt it.
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Schwimmer was good in 'Band of Brothers'
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Not because it gives anything away - just because it's potentially spoiled the film!!!
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Big budget episodes of Seinfeld. Except they have violence in them.
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that is all
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Is something to do with the Inglorious Bastards being transported to their mission or some such?Little known fact but 'Where Eagles Dare' actually had a similar scene that is heavily cut - originally Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood had a huge dialogue scene in the plane.Maj Smith: That Charlie Chaplin is one funny motherfucker - did you see that film he did about Hitler?Schaffer: That film wasn't about Hitler! He played HynkelSmith: Doesn't matter who the motherfucker played it was about HitlerSchaffer: No, it was about Hynkel - it was a comment on Hitler but -Smith: Okay, it was about Hynkel but any nigger can tell that it was about HitlerSchaffer: I concede - yeah that was some funny shit!Smith: Noel Coward - he's funny for a fag!Schaffer: I wouldn't know - more of a Tom Mix fan myself etc etc etcIt was cut because in the 60's they realised that pop culture didn't always equate good cinema!!!
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Aug 06, 2008 12:23:17 AM CDT
I've read the script, I love the script...this isn't good news.
by paulthomasanderton
The part is definitely a supporting role, but it's a fucking juicy as hell supporting role. Among an ensemble of badasses, Donnie Donowitz is a fucking pychopath, he's got some of the best moments in the story, a great and intense actor could do some unbelievable things with it but Eli Roth? Quentin, Pulp Fiction is as good as any movie ever made (I really believe that) but that doesn't make you infallible. You fucked up.
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Damn the naysayers!
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Maybe the part for Roth is a small, or at least smaller, one? Just sayin'. Because if Roth plays a large role with lots of lines and action, I think this might come back to bite Quentin in the ass. Honestly, I don't see Roth as being able to play "a badass WWII soldier" at all, and I think Taranatino should've expanded the talent search instead of flippantly casting his friend. Maybe "Inglorious Bastards" is a farce to begin with, hence the wayward casting?
I don't know. With the talent available to Quentin out there, and the failure of "Grindhouse," both story-wise and economically, I would've thought he'd raise his standard a bit.
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towards roth doesn't sway tarantino one bit.
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I did try to find the script - I love war movies and genuinely wanted an old fashioned Men on a Mission film - I couldn't find it - too late to the party or a general ineptness for searching etc
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Personally, and I know this is a matter of taste, by ensemble I wasn't referring to just the Inglorious Bastards but all the people in this story. The Jew Hunter, the double agent that Uma will be playing, even our heroine is pretty awesome in her own way. The Donnie character could easily (and now probably will be) just some heavy, but there is potential to do some unexpected things with it. That scene where he's talking to his elderly grandma alone could make this a cult classic.
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Roth was an annoying character with some of the worst dialog in Death Proof. This isn't good news.
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Just because QT can
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QT puts friends first!
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i like eli, but i didnt think he was that great in death proof, i hope he does better in this movie because this is a really great charater, i just cant picture him playing Donnie... time will tell
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ok I Have defended this movie for a long time Now I’m done I’m going on the record to say this is going to be shit. This is his waterloo. I’ve Had my doubts now for a while yet I still defended this film. Eli Roth is the straw that broke the camels back . This talent less fuck has had Nothing but a awful influence on our boy. I Also want to go on record as saying whatever script that is floating around Hollywood and the net is not what was originally supposed to be Inglorious Bastards. I think after death proof bombed he freaked out ( and was pressured to change his script) and gutted his film, and i think that rat fuck Eli helped him re write what is now going to be the film that will kill Tarantinos career . Think about everything we heard about IB and contrast it with what we are hearing right now. Wasn’t his script an epic novel like length. The script on the net is not . And the casting , where would all the people mentioned even fit . Whatever its Over, damn Quentin I know your reading AICN, So i just have to say one thing just because eli roth gets you pussy does not mean you should let him ruin your career, as soon as this thing bombs He wont have your back, and by that point we wont be there for you to give a shit . All those pop motherfuckers who thought you were done after pulp ( who were wrong)will finally be right . This will not be your " There will be blood" TO QUOTE A WISE MAN Move the fuck back into your moms basement and forget whatever bullshit eli roth has told you . Hell those chicks you went to american idol with would write a better script then that talentless fuck roth.
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Quentin putting his butt-buddy Eli in... pfft
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eli roth is a fucking hack. i was really willing to dive head first into quentin's latest foray... but now all i can say is, "meh."
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Especially the first one. I think its actually a lot smarter then its given credit for. Plus its fucking terrifying and has a completely bad-ass awesome ending. I don't know if Roth can act, though, can he? I also have the sneaking suspicion that the HOSTEL movies were flukes largely guided by Tarantino's hand.
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is Freddie Prinze Jr. to sign.
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Well, I'll try to withhold judgement till I see the thing, but yeah... this officially dims my enthusiasm. I love the script and the potential of the project... I still say QT's a hell of a filmmaker... but I don't see how anyone can make the case that, of all the professional actors at work today, ELI FREAKIN' ROTH is the best actor for this terrific role.As a devout QT defender, this is one battle I won't be able to fight. Roth's in the movie 'cause he's buddies with Quentin. And that's just not a good enough reason, as far as I'm concerned. Dammit.
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Aug 06, 2008 1:23:35 AM CDT
As a devout QT defender, this is one battle I won't be able to f
by thepennys
" As a devout QT defender, this is one battle I won't be able to fight"
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Eli gets QT the best coke...you know that fishscale shit
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You were one of those guys who were so freaked out by HOSTEL, you could only respond by dismissing it as a way to cover up the fact that you were terrified. Lots of insecure guys do that kind of thing. It's cool. Don't sweat it. If you do ever get around to watching the movie rather than hiding behind the sofa or whatever, you'll find that its actually a pretty great thriller with a seriously sinister (and terrifyingly plausible) premise. Fucking GREAT ending too.
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...he just needed to ensure he'd have at least one sycophant on set. Somewhere in Los Angeles Pitt's agent is devising an argument to convince his client to bail on this ticking time bomb.
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Never let a good coke connection slip away. Although, you know, I'm sure QT has a better coke connection than Roth. At least he should given their relative status to one another. QT is a pretty big deal, Roth just made a couple of successful low-budget horror movies. He's not that talented a guy, but I did like the Hostel flicks.
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I've always thought RR might make the transition better than Eli.
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I think it's actually spelled "D-O-U-C-H-E". No charge.
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he better be in this shit. I don't care what you retards think but I know Sandler will own in this. I was hoping he'd get this role. Eli Roth?!?
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Damn, i really thought I was the only person posting on this site that considered Roth a smug jack ass. Oh well, I don't "hate" the guy as much as i just wish he would go away and I wouldn't have to see or hear from him again. QT hasn't really done anything to piss me off (DeathProof was a waste of Kurt Russell) on the level of Roth's saying "I'm the only TRUE horror director in the states today" shit, but this move might make me rethink buying a ticket to this.Either way I think Pulp Fiction was great as well as Jackie Brown,True Romance,Resevoir Dogs and Kill Bill... but then again I hated the Hostel movies so there's no counting for taste i guess.
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But that doesn't make the Hostel movies bad.
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You've used all your "smug jackass" and "douche" tokens. I think a talkbacker once called Liv Tyler a smug jackass and Edward Norton a douche. Those terms no longer have the shock value you people seem to think they do.
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Plus he's a total hack. I still can't believe Harry raved about Cabin Fever.
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...and I was struck by how well the dialogue flowed, how NATURAL it sounded. Tarantino wasn't so hung up on his diction at that point that it got in the way of the characterization or the story. Pulp Fiction--certainly his most entertaining film--started to introduce a few trademarks that would later become intrusive (the repetition of entire sentences from one character to the other, phrases like "tasty beverage" that would crop up in different films from Four Rooms to Death Proof, non sequiturs that started out colorful but now seem to serve mostly as filler). Jackie Brown was terrifically done; his most "mature" film. Kill Bill was, for the most part, quite good; but I still maintain that the whole thing could have been done in one film in under three hours. So much stuff in Volume 2 duh-RAGGED; and it was in these films that I first noticed something about the dialogue: this was NOT the way anyone would really talk, but it WAS the way that Quentin loved to write. He loved it so much, in fact, that every character spoke pretty much the same way, male or female, good or bad. These were no longer individual characters: they were all just Quentin. And Death Proof is the worst offender, as many others than I have noted time and again. Watch the opening diner scene in Reservoir, and compare it to ANY conversation among either group of girls in Death Proof: one scene sounds like real, individual personalities interacting naturally and humorously; and the other sounds irritating, boring, and artificial. No doubt, some of the girls in DP were hot: but how does one make a throwback to an exploitation flick and not only make it BORING (with the exception of one crash and one chase scene) but somehow forget to throw in a single boob shot?!? (Some will suggest that for Quentin, a bare female foot is the equivalent of a tit; that being the case, there are tits all OVER the movie--too many, in fact, and that's coming from a guy who loved the Salma Hayek toe-sucking scene in From Dusk til Dawn)....But back to the point--QT has not been anywhere near his best work in years; and one can only hope the casting of Roth (who is actually a pretty funny dude) does not portend "more of the same" where Inglorious Bastards is concerned. The best possible thing Tarantino can do at this point is write something that sounds nothing like him at all; if he pulls that off, he's got himself a hit. If not, he'd better get Tera Patrick signed up quickly for his Faster Pussycat remake: I just wonder if there'll be a scene where she gobbles some guy and at the end says "Mmm...that IS a tasty beverage!"
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The movie producer?
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You sure it wasn't TIM Roth?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Really. Wow.
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Oh man. people are gonna be pissed.
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Random Person: "Mr. Roth, I hear you're going to be acting in Tarantino's new film, so here's a wet paper bag." - Eli Roth: "Um... I don't get it."
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this reminds me of the casting of Shane Black in Predator. "Get it. Because of the echo."
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is too much into Quentin these days and not filmmaking. I predict Bastards will be a glorified love-in.
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In a way he is in the fact that this crappy director(UWE BOLL buttbaby) has somehow diabolically convinced that he can make a good film. Creds to the hack. At the same time FU Eli. You sucked Satans dong to be able to what you do professionally. FU.
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ever met Eli or have any clue of any acting abilities he could possibly bring to the table? Everyone around here acts like they know what is best for a bunch of filmmakers they know nothing about. You're just a bunch of witless holier-than-thou FANS that wish they could do what these guys do (which is ironic to me, because you all actually LIKE most of the work they put out, but can't walk away from a cock-measuring contest). Stop stinking up the internet with your impotent bile and step outside for a change - the graphics are awesome.
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Oh Herc, you're always good for a laugh. Seriously though, who's playing the Bear Jew? It's an important role, requiring someone actually believable as a person capable of killing a man with the swing of a baseball bat. They also should probably be able to act. Eli Roth hardly fits those requirements. I just watched his role in Death Proof again to make sure. Nope, still not buying it. funny though. But seriously, who is REALLY playing Donowitz?
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This does not bode well
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Hostel 1 was actually pretty good. I haven't seen the sequel. Regardless, I am not passing any judgements based on his directing ability (by the way, how the fuck does that logic work for some of you shitheads?). I simply did not see him in the role. At all. However, I want this movie to be good, and I want to be entertained, so it's not like I'm going to say the movie sucks right off the bat (who the fuck does that?). Just please movie gods, let Eli actually sell the role. It's kind of integral to the movie in a way for him not to suck big hairy mountain goat balls.
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i really loved this script. Thought this was tarantino's come back but casting Eli Fucking Roth in such a great role just almost immediately killed it. he's gonna fall into all the same traps he has been falling into the last few flicks. Terrible. Great part too. terrible.
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You're right, most of us are not personally acquainted with Roth. However, most are capable of deducing some form of hypothesis on his acting ability from his small role in the movie Death Proof. His time in the film is short, but he should still leave an impression.And he does okay in the role. Not really anything that screams "This guy should be Donowitz!" but he plays the asshole pretty smoothly.Also, we are fans true, so we are not trying to explain what is best for the filmmakers, but voicing our opinions as fans, and letting the filmmakers know what we are expecting as patrons of their work. Granted, the director and actor being discussed probably don't really give two shits what we think at this point and will not see anything we have to say. They have a vision and they probably want to maintain some integrity with that vision. I can respect and understand that. But why should that stop us as fans from sharing what we think of a project's progression on the off chance that they may take notice and actually take a few comments to heart? Your comments are basically anegating the entire concept of the talkback, which is ironic considering you used it just now to share your own thoughts. It's a site created for people to share things considered interesting and "cool" and to discuss them with those who share those interests. So stop wasting your time trying to tell people to quit complaining if they have a disagreement with a film's casting or something. Trust me, it's not stopping anybody from sharing their thoughts.In fact it makes you kind of look like a troll, who quite frankly sounds like they don't even really get the site. "Go outside"? Really? It's a little ignorant of you to pass judgements on an online community, which you yourself have included yourself in. How does excluding yourself from that community based on preconceived notions accomplish anything? Think about it. And don't give me that self-righteous, "you guys are all loser complainers who never see the sun" bull shit, ass hole. I went on a four hour hike today with my girlfriend through the hills of Eugene, Oregon. Most of us are normal people with multiple interests, and very few of us dedicate our entire days on here like you may think. It's really kind of funny that you used the phrase "holier-than-thou" when that is the exact attitude you took with just about everyone on the talkbacks.
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okay it is late and I made very little sense. but I hope you still got my point.
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Cabin Fever sucked, Hostel and Hostel II were sick and retarded, and his 'Thanksgiving' piece was garbage. Send this over-anxious rube back to the minors!!!
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Comparing Eli Roth to Shane Black is a fucking joke.
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was defintely the fucking hilarious Thanksgiving trailer. He nailed the feel of those crappy old movies perfectly.
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Silly little 90's gasbag teenagers selling testicular dreck to smelly couch potatoes. A whole generation of new, smart film-makers has shown these idiots up for the fratboy morons that they are.
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You use the phrase impotent bile in relationship to people coming onto an online message board and spouting off disagreements or whatever based on a shitty - no matter which way you look at it - casting decisionHowever to complain about this you lump us into the stereotype of people who sit about all day on this site or other sites and who do nothing else with their livesThe paradox is you are on this site reading messages and replying to them - a site that you use to propogate the stereotype etcBut as to your point - wouldn't you rather have read that a good actor had been cast rather than Eli Roth?
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I know Shane Black and Eli Roth. what do you base your opinion on. Roth had a small role in Death Proof. You have no idea whether he can act or not. You're the joke.
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for basically saying the same thing I did with much better editing
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so's this casting. see ya
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Why does Tarantino have such a hard-on for this guy ?
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znd sucked someething fierce. Mind you, everything about that fetid pile of shit sucked. I'll give you that Hostel was not as bad as Cabin Fever, but on any level was still pretty wretched- and the End was not Balls out, or whatever some fuck up there said. It was crap. And Hostel was not scary. It was just minging. Having said that, I hear Hostel 2 is better, but I hated Roth's first 2 efforts so much I refused to watch it.
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QT has lost it big time here. Roth's acting is far better than his directorial ability. He is like a slightly better version of Uwe Boll. Seriously how slow were the hostel movies. The violence was just sickening without any class or tact being displayed. Adam Green is the man to watch in horror land. Hatchet is a proper horror movie.
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Aug 06, 2008 7:00:32 AM CDT
Quentin, I love you man, but Eli Roth IS NOT LIKEABLE!!
by lanemyersclassic
I can't stop you from filming him, but maybe you can edit him out for the theatrical release?
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just bastards. Not even inglorious ones. Check out Res Dogs or Pulp Fiction and you'll see just how far QT has plummeted. RR and Roth....fuck em, they just make shit. Always have done.
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Kill Bill is overrated, and Grindhouse was unwatchable. QT's last decent movie was Jackie Brown
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Aug 06, 2008 7:32:13 AM CDT
Are we going to get a separate post for each single bit of casti
by mr gorilla
If so, count me out. You did that for Batman Begins and it completely burnt the film. By comparison, it was actually a nice surprise to see Mr Eric Roberts doing his 'thing' in The Dark Knight. Though, jeez, that table of supposed 'tough guys' would have killed the Joker about a minute after he'd walked into the room... One of the less-convincing 'wait - he may have something interesting to say' moments in recent movies.
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Aug 06, 2008 7:32:49 AM CDT
I thought this time he wasn't writing with actors in mind?
by spencertrilby
Because this casting decision reeks of nepotism. I can't believe he woke up one day and said "my buddy Eli won the part! He nailed my dream audition!"... Let's hope the part is strong enough (or tiny enough) to work even without a real actor.
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Shit was hilarious. The fucking Pancakes kid.. the bitch that gets eaten by the dog in the shed... the pothead cop that keeps calling that one guy the "party man" and asking if he wants to party... the one douche who swears that he "won" and gets riddled with bullets during his moment of celebration... the total gross-out scene with the guy and the girl in bed, and he reaches down to finger her but instead finds that he was playing with a bloody open sore... fucking sick.
I haven't seen Hostel or Hostel 2, but Cabin Fever was good as far as ridiculous horror movies go.
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English isn't your first language I take it?
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He's doing, and has done, what 99.9% of the people who visit this site will never do -- make their own feature films.
On the douchebag thing, look, I really liked the Hostels too, actually, I kinda love the first one, but he is a raging douche. Lots of douchebags manage to do cool stuff, they're just irritating to hang out with. -
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Eli Roth? My interest in this film just went *poof*. And not to hate on Eli; Hostel kicked some pretty hard ass (I'm with Harry on feeling the cool "80's throwback" vibe Hostel put out). But as a whole, directors cast in movies seem to always be one step away from looking at the camera and going "gee, check it -- I'm on the *other* side of the camera! Lookit me!" Eli and QT especially. Busting the fourth wall could work in a satire, but not in a drama. I'll pass.
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but i'm not unhappy with Roth i found him funny in Death Proof and he is taller than Sandler so i trust the TMAN to be making the right choice. I didn't find the script to be EPIC, enjoyed it, but not quite what's been built up for the last 14 or so years. Finance will be harder because of Grindhouse not taking the money and the Kill Bill split pissing some fans off which i believe contributed to a Grindhouse backlash. The TMAN is niche market and not mainstream he became mainstream because Pulp Fiction made a shit load of money as did Roth with Cabin Fever so they have common ground. I am more concerned with the touting of Pitt as it smacks of oh shit i need a big name to get this made and get people to see it, but he is an ideal choice for the role. The problem is not getting the TMAN's fans to see the film it's getting the general public to see it. The direction the TMAN has taken with his last 2 films (KillBill classed as 1 film) is now sorting out the true TMAN fans as fans start dropping because they really didn't get Kill Bill or Deathproof . The TMAN will never make another Pulp Fiction or even a Reservior Dogs for that matter they are the bench mark he made and it's just not possible to raise the bar that much higher. Expectations for Basterds is massive in the TMAN fan base because he's been on about it for 14 years and it's wet our appetite like a man in the dessert for 14 years living of cactus juice being offered a glass of Ice Cold in Alex and it really has been like that but now it's starting to feel like being offered a warm glass of water. So my point being the TMAN is a niche filmmaker who is expected to maintain mainstream dollar. One thing i am sure about Basterds is 100% not mainstream. Simon Pegg for the English agent ? that would be cool.
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Eli Roth is one lucky bastard. He gets fanboy love for 3 overrated and ridiculously overhyped movies. His acting is shit. And now he's going to be in this? Fuck outta here. And no I'm not some hater, I met and interviewed the guy. And while others in the "press" room were too busy smoking pole. I saw right through his "I love horror" "I love the fans act". He got all bitchy with me when he asked me if I liked "Cabin Fever" and I told him no.
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Ok, let me get this out of my system. I love QT, and I have nothing against Roth. I've even defended DEATH PROOF which everybody seem to hate. BUT, the ONE thing I didn't like about DEATH PROOF, the ONE GODDAMN THING that I would gladly erase from the movie, is that Eli Roth guy. It was distracting and I honestly think he didn't pull it off. So goddamnit, Tarantino, why him? Ugh.
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they might as well go all out
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Is that he's a painfully untalented person. He can't write, or direct. There's no denying that, as we have proof readily available. Anyone who thinks Cabin Fever, or the Hostel films are actually competent need to go back and look again. These films are pure garbage. Cabin Fever in particular is so inept, so bad in it's writing and directing, it's stunningly bad. It's not enough that Roth has proven himself to be just an idiot who gets movie deals, he compounds it by claiming he's the savior of the modern horror movie, when he has absolutely nothing of value to back up his wild egotistical claims. No one here is jealous of him or his middling success in the film industry. It's a safe bet in 5 years he'll be just a footnote.
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Why Quentin?
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Another one of those people so terrified by Hostel (easily the best american horror film of the past 10, 15 years), they dismissed it as garbage even though it was actually a pretty cool and terrifying movie. Yawn. So how many feature films have you made m_prevette? I'm guessing... zero?
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That is a fallacious argument. To re-use my favourite quote: I don't have to be a carpenter to criticise a bad table. It is not my job to make tables. And I understand you love Hostel, and we've agreed to differ on it before, but I do not think it was in the slightest bit frightening. Dull and gross would be the 2 words I'd use to describe it.
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way to blow Eli Roth. His movies are asshat rubbish. Oh and I took a big dump in my toilet this morning. Im the mastermind of dumping in toilets.
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I mean, did anyone else see Cabin Fever and both Hostel movies??? They're horrible! And Eli Roth is a prick who is way too convinced of his own talent - which is one thing he has in common with Tarentino, except Tarentino actually HAS talent.
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I'm just curious. Because I think that people who don't like that kind of extreme horror, whether they think its gross or silly or exploitative or whatever, won't like a movie like Hostel. To me it felt like a close relative to the transgressive horror of Takashii Miike, but, of course, not nearly as awesome or artful as Miike's stuff is...
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I went to BNAT4 where a pre-Hostel Eli Roth sat behind me the entire night. This guy thought he was the life of the party and proceeded to heckle all of the movies every night, trying so hard to get the audience to laugh at his repeated "jokes." There are only so many "I can't wait until the Olsen twins turn 18 so I can bang the shit out of them" jokes one can take before it turns sad and creepy. I also remember how quick he was to openly diss Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses both during and after the disastrous screening. Granted, the rest of the audience shared the same sentiment on the movie as Roth, however it spoke volumes for Roth with the behavior he exhibited as he was whining to the other ass-kissing fanboys around him how crappy it was that Lions Gate was releasing Rob's shitfest before his own shitfest (Cabin Fever). On a side note, I will give Roth credit for bringing the Raiders of the Lost Ark adaptation to share with the audience that night, though. But the guy is still a douche. And an immature, average filmmaker.
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Please. I laughed at the absurdity of it throughout. The laughably horrible gore makeup. The gratuitous pointless nudity. The absudity of the "plot." The ridiculous candy toting child bandits. The offensive eastern european sterotypes. As bill O'Reilly would say, "Fucking thing SUCKS!"
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And I just didn't find it impressive or frightening. I also think the miike Comparison is pushing it. There's nothing Roth has done that leads me to believe he could do anything a fraction as cool as Audition or Ichi.
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I ___PAID___ AICN to force himself down our throats. That's right - cash monaayz to promote the holy hell out of his Communications Degree Quality torture porn slash flick, and to throw rosepetals at his heels wherever he strides. This update is yet another contracted bung reaming by AICN. Whether or not he continues to pay for this, or if this is just a ploy to acquire another contract from him I couldn't tell you.
But everytime AICN takes skim to try to beat me over the head with its "this lousy piece of crap movie is actually good" hammer, Im going to rise up against it and say, "no, AICN. I will not allow you to trick me into paying good money to see a horribly bad movie just because you were paid to do it."
and any director who does that wont even get a quarter from me to call a tow-truck. Because I resent this business model and will do my part to see that it fails so hard, that no other directors will stoop do to it again.
Aint it Polished Turds Dot Com, amirite? -
how about spending some of that Eli Roth money to update this site to 1996 level tech?
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Aug 06, 2008 9:30:17 AM CDT
I Dunno, Especially Considering Miike Was Even In The Movie
by laserpants
Miike is an artist and a genius auteur of transgressive cinema, true, and I own pretty much all of his films. Both Ichii and Audition are in my top all time faves. Roth is nowhere near the artist that Miike is, but I think he managed to capture the same essence with Hostel. Whether or not the guy is a raging douchebag (and he is) is irrelevant.
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the man has been bailing credability out of the boat for years. stick a fork in him. This news just goes to point out how crap this movie will be. I have the Death Proof soundtrack (better than the movie) and Roth's horrible cameo dialogue is on it. He makes QT in Girl 6 look good!
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Hostel and anything Miike has done. Roth does not have the ability to produce the sheer variety that Miike has, or if he does then he needs to see it. I'd say that bad Miike is still about 1 million times better than Hostel.
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Provided he producese something I don't think is dreadful. Maybe I should watch Hostel 2.
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Aug 06, 2008 9:59:49 AM CDT
love QT, love Eli and hostel 1 & 2, love the IG script..hate thi
by irc-hollywood
horrible news! This was the Adam sandler role!
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Aug 06, 2008 9:59:54 AM CDT
love QT, love Eli and hostel 1 & 2, love the IG script..hate thi
by irc-hollywood
horrible news! This was the Adam sandler role!
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Not just the concept of torture, but the way it was shot and handled in Hostel was very similar to Miike's work; especially as seen in Ichii, Imprint, and Audition. I'm starting to suspect that you are trying hard to pretend you don't see similarities rather than actually not seeing them.Oh, and I agree that Miike is far an away a better filmmaker than Roth. Miike is a genius on par with like likes of David Lynch. Plus he's prolific and exceedingly diverse in terms of theme and tone in his films. Totally agree with you there. But Hostel was much, MUCH better than Dead or Alive.
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And top billing.
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That's it. 2 Action scenes and about 50 dialogue scenes, in this "war" movie.
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I'm starting to think you're just looking for similarities where there aren't any. We'll have to agree to differ again.
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What does it matter if I've made a film or not? Anyone with any sort of understanding of what constitutes good movie making can see Roth's shit films for what they are. Not that it matters but I have worked in the industry with a professional studio script sale and a few options to my credit. But that doesn't matter either, Hostel is a bad film, Hostel 2 is a bad film, and Cabin Fever is the worst theatrical horror film in years. Why do people assume it's some sort of jealousy when someone states the obvious, that Roth's films suck?
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because none of you have ever posted in a talkback before.
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...utterly shitty. We start out with Stallone, Bruce, and maybe Arnold, and we somehow end up with the Sons of Isreal assault team led by fucking Eli fucking Roth? Quentin, what the FUCK, man?
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Honestly it seems like a spoof at this point.... sounds like a Mel Brooks movie.
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Bruce, Arnold, Sly, Eddie Murphy, Adam Sandler, Madsen, and Luis Guzman would have been the ideal cast.
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...fuckin' bitch'll drink ANYTHING.
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BRITNEY SPEARS?
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Actually QT did as her to paly a stripper in some movie I heard. Not sure if it was this one or not.
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I hope all the horrible things in the world happen to you and no one else, whiny bitches.
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And Billy Crystal's also.
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Jackie Mason
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She will play Varla a lesbian /psycho/ stripper..But not in this film.. Q.T. is remaking Faster Pussycat. Kill, Kill!! and she will star. This is out of the U.K. telegraph so it has some merit.
Anyone want to bet one of the other strippers might be Rose Mcgowen..
Now if this is true I wouldn't mind seeing this as a double feature with Rodriguez's "Machette".
If Q.T. and Rodriguez didn't deep six the Grindhouse "franchise" by
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...and NOT for the Roth casting. Since it appears no one bothered to read my original post (now WAYYYY up there), I have to do a slight recap: towards the end, I suggested that QT hurry up and cast Tera Patrick in his Faster Pussycat remake--rumor was that she and Quentin were both interested in her taking the lead role. And now word comes from Telegraph.uk that he's got fucking BRITNEY SPEARS in the lead ("She was his first choice all along," proclaims the article)! At least Tera would have brought some good ole fashioned nastiness to the role--whether or not she can act woulda been immaterial; no one could "act" in the original film either! Instead, we get Britney, right up there with Lohan and Hilton as complete, sorry wastes of space that should adopt careers as suicide bombers immediately. Now...someone wanna comment on THIS one, or are we simply to be graced with more eloquent posts on why Eli Roth is a tool?
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Britney is trailer trash, and Quentin has been replaced by a pod person.
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C'mon.. this guy needs another great role! It's been *forever* since Starship Troopers
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If I beat you on that un-glorius piece of news ..It was only a motion picture race to shitland that you lost..
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They'll need some German actors won't they?
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Aug 06, 2008 12:39:49 PM CDT
LaserPants you poor sad cunt
by elvispresleehorsleyharveyoswaldoprahwinf
Hostel was a TAME piece of crap.
Not hardcore or violent, accept in it's rape of others ideas
(Miike,Herschell Gordon Lewis)
Go read some Edward Lee and realize a hack like Roth is a fucking Mr.Rodgers in comparison.
Real horror fans read horror books because even today they just don't make good horror movies, they make polite little skips-thru-the-meadow pansy-ass-bullshit for fanboys that will never know the difference.
Twaddling fuck-tards like LaserPants actually think the milk-and-cookies fluff they are watching deserves the "Horror" classification. What a sad, silly joke of man you are sir.
As to Inglorious Bastards, well I've been amused at QT's casting choices ever since Travolta and he somehow seems to pull it off. We'll see. I would rather watch Eli Roth as an actor in this than sit thru another one of his films for sure. Qt is doing us all a favor by tying up ER's time!
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big-time movie director who made that movie "Coming home in a Body Bag", that Lee Donowitz? He made that? Good fuckin movie. Great fucking movie...Played by Saul Rubinstein in True Romance...one of my favorite Q scripted flicks.Also, I'm going to go ahead and assume that it's just me who thinks that Uma Thurman has man hands, man feet, and the face of an ostrich?
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big-time movie director who made that movie "Coming home in a Body Bag", that Lee Donowitz? He made that? Good fuckin movie. Great fucking movie...Played by Saul Rubinstein in True Romance...one of my favorite Q scripted flicks.Also, I'm going to go ahead and assume that it's just me who thinks that Uma Thurman has man hands, man feet, and the face of an ostrich?
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browser fer shit
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...'mastermind' is a bit reaching isn't it? I think "creator" will suffice. Or maybe even "writer/director". 'Mastermind' is usually reserved for arch-villians and chess-playing computers.
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just because they like a film director and his movies. Get real , your living a fucking fantasy life. There just fucking movies and people can like what ever shit they want. Haha.
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Are you fucking kidding me? I really enjoyed the script and thinking about Eli Roth as The Jew Bear makes me want to puke. Remember when Tarantino use to cast cool actors? Why doesn't he do that now?
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Actually, I shouldn't have gone for the low blow on Freddie Prinze, Jr. The guy is nice. I attended SXSW one year...and Roth was there talking about the Olsen twins as well... that's funny. What can I say about this? Well, we all know Roth isn't an actor... from Cabin Fever to Death Proof. Personally, Hostel I and II weren't scary to me... I was completely indifferent. Growing up, The Last House on the Left, The Hills Have Eyes, and the Exorcist were scary. Horror needs a careful melding between psychological and visual. I'm refraining from writing a thesis paper here. To me...Hostel was purely visual shock...though it didn't shock me. Perhaps, he was taking a queue from Howard Stern...after all...he was a PA for him.
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ever since Avary and Tarantino split...to me...Tarantino's writing has suffered...his dialogue, etc.
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Am I wrong? No. I'm never wrong.
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For the time I wasted watching his shit fucking movies. Total failure to deliver on hype...and he cant act for shit.
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Samson_K nice posts sir! You had me chuckling.
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decision to go w/ this flunky. Harry and co. will never say anything bad about QT. They will never question anything he ever does but this is a criminally bad choice when word got out he was looking to knock this one out of the park! The simple fact is the dude has seen his finer days in the nineties.
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Eli Roth has drowned in his own tears post reading this comments section.
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Could someone please explain to me how either of the Hostel movies were terrifying? I haven't been able to figure it out.
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So much for the idea of "the ultimate hard man film" that Tarantino floated for a decade...
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Joy.
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because he is in the film and you will all have to suck it up. By all means skip the film if you want but you all have to face the fact he IS in it...hahaha. I love it. I love how angry he makes all of you. While he gets to make and star in films all you get to do is pound away on your keyboards crying and hollering about it. hahaha.
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yes, we're pissed. we're pissed that Quentin Tarantino's potential return to glory will now be marred by this no talent torture porn freak. we're mad that a movie many of us had genuinely come to anticipate favorably has now been shot down in flames.
personally, i'm still holding out hope that QT's fucking with our heads and will pop out tomorrow to say that he didn't mean to say Eli, he meant to say Tim. note that NOBODY FROM THE STAFF HAS MADE A SINGLE POST IN THIS TALKBACK. there's a real possibility we're being played here folks. -
The only reason Eli got $$$ to do a movie is because his daddy is a big time doctor and he and his buddies funded Cabin Fever. This casting, along with Rose Mchasbeen in Sonja, will go down in history as utterly stupid nepotism/thinking with your dick moments. QT still has enough talent to make me see this and hope that Roth is fair and/or his part is cut down. Roth drowned in his own tears after reading this talkback? No, he broke out in assholes and shit himself to death.
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Britney Spears is being lined up to play a killer lesbian stripper in the Quentin Tarantino's next movie, it has been reported.; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2509196/Britney-Spears-to-play-lesbian-killer-in-Quentin-Tarantino-film.html
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read the script, he's terrible for it. End of story.
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Roth is the most worthless director working in the whole damn industry. Ok, Uwe Boll too but at least his flicks have some camp value.
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Aug 07, 2008 12:21:29 AM CDT
ElvisPresLeeHorsleyHarveyOswaldO prahWinFreeJackHorkheimer
by laserpants
Um, dude, what are you like 12 years old? Enjoying the death metal, then? Mom's basement? The morbid obesity coupled with the virginity and crushing loneliness? Good luck with that. Also, do take some time to learn the English language and basic grammar. Thanks.
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"Not that it matters but I have worked in the industry with a professional studio script sale and a few options to my credit."
Oh really? Which script? Got any titles for us or are you just making stuff up? "Anyone with any sort of understanding of what constitutes good movie making can see Roth's shit films for what they are." Oh really? So you've taken some film classes, then? Did you enjoy Battleship Potemkin? I bet you pretended to. Oh boy. Hows that working out for you? THe film student thing? Shooting for the managers position at the local cineplex, then? I understand they offer flexible hours to students. See, to me, the enjoyment of any form of art or entertainment is largely subjective. Now whereas I wouldn't class Hostel alongside the works of Kubrick, Kurosawa, or Lynch, I would rate it as a solid low-budget genre film that delivered the goods (transgressive, exploitative, visceral, funny, et al) in what was, to me, a terrifying fashion, due largely in part to its terrifyingly plausible context. That didn't work for you. Fine. But thats YOUR opinion, and its the very height of arrogant delusion to assume anything else. -
He cast Eli Roth? Who's next on the list? High Pitch Eric?? Roth, not unlike Cruise, denies his gay lifestyle. Something else they have in common: their respective careers are rapidly fading.
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...Since he loves it so much.
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Aug 07, 2008 10:13:20 AM CDT
LaserPants sucks harder than Eli Roth, he can prove it with math
by elvispresleehorsleyharveyoswaldoprahwinf
Because all the 12 year olds on your block also refer to you as a cunt?
Understandable.
So, when someone lets you know (that in their opinion) what you think of as over-the-top violence is actually a skip thru the daises, you assume they're fat and live at their mom's house? Project much?
Judging from the incredibly naive,snide and pompous retorts you post, you come off as a HUGE Bill O'reilly fan. I mean you started your response with an "um,dude" - you must want people to think "what a completely condescending twat".
Try "Look, the fact is..." next time, farmboy. You bag on death metal, bully for you sir! You probably think Korn is just freakin awesome. I prefer Sleepytime Gorilla Museum,et al.
You obviously have no intelligent argument for supporting your opinions, so maybe it's time to return to the familial "Vampire the masquerade" themed glory-hole and get back to work.
Here, I will phrase it in the hillbilly-harpy-screech of your toothless inbred mother;
"If'n you don't meet yer quota at tha'hole t'day yer pa's gonna be right pissed, an you know what'ee duz to yer butt when'ees pissed."
He apparently does wrong-stuff. Wrong-stuff to your butt.
I guess we all now know why he named you LaserPants, ouch.
Have a wonderful day.
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Could you explain to me just how it is that either of the Hostel movies are terrifying? How are they anything more than boring attempts by a talentless director to put as much gore on screen as possible?
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Aug 07, 2008 3:19:49 PM CDT
ElvisPresLeeHorsleyHarveyOswaldO prahWinFreeJackHorkheimer
by laserpants
I'll respond when you learn how to write the English language and/or can form coherent thoughts. I kind of feel sorry for you, actually.
Point of fact I hate Korn and nu-metal, but Sleepytime Gorilla Museum?! HAHAHA!!! Your kidding right?! HAHAHA!!! Do you like them with irony, because they're so fucking ridiculous? What are you like 10? You're definitely no older than 15. Oh my god, do you wear much black nail-polish? Deep in your morbidly obese virginal basement of the soul? HAHAHAHA!!! Oh, mercy! You are officially the KING of dorks.
Seriously, though, if you want to listen to actually good, disturbing, experimental music that doesn't resort to overwrought cartoonish shenigans, I recommend Einsturzende Neubauten or some of the early guitar symphonies of Glenn Branca. You might not like them though because they don't have to resort to dwessing up wike monsters! Hahahahahaha!!! -
1) There but for the grace of god go I -- Having traveled extensively and been involved in all sorts if party insanity in my earlier years, I could relate to the motivation of the guys. I WAS those guys when I was in my early 20s, so, I could see younger myself falling into the same kind of trap. That scared me.
2) The plausibility of the premise -- I am convinced that there are places in the world that offer this service to wealthy psychopaths. The fact that it was plausible, and not some kind of goofy supernatural bullshit made it seem more real to me, and therefore, more terrifying. Just the idea of how easily it would be to have a roofie slipped in your drink and then wake up in this hellhole with no chance of escape I found terrifying; terrifying because its plausible and I could see it happening.
3) You know what's funny is that there actually isn't very much on-screen gore in the movie. BUT, the situation, and the premise, works on your subconscious to such an intense degree that you feel like you saw more gore than you did. So, you actually were scared, you just can't admit it to yourself. I think its because its easier to say "oh this movie sucked" for most people, most guys, then to admit that it terrified them. -
I thought "Manhunter" and "Silence of the Lambs" were more nerve racking than "Hostel."
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However, Manhunter was kind of shit. But, either way, I said Hostel was the best American horror film of the past 10, 15 years; Silence of the Lambs came out in 1991, 17 years ago.
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Why do you continually try to tell everyone in this talkback that they actually were scared by Hostel but are just too afraid to admit it to themselves? Is it that difficult for you to believe that someone might actually NOT be scared watching that movie? Plain and simple, no. Hostel did suck. It was boring, it was bland, its characters were painfully annoying. There wasn't a single moment where I was the least bit afraid watching it. I would be more frightened watching any of the High School Musical movies than Hostel. So please, stop projecting your fear onto others.
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